BioWare is no more.
>>4135963It's been dead for a while.This is just lowering the coffin
mfw
>>4135969Yep, the last game I enjoyed from Bioware was Mass Effect 3 and that came out almost 15 years ago. And a lot of people hated ME 3 (I loved it despite the ending).
>>4135963Oh crap. Let's hope some crazed group of Renegade anons team up on N7 Day to paint every room of the EA Headquarters building red in retaliation for this heinousness
>>4135963Press S to spit
>/v/ thread playing "My heart will go on"
>>4135969more like shooting the zombie in the head
>>4135984S
>>4135963Mercy killing
Gamergate won.
>>4135963vaxx status?
>>4135963KWAB
>>4135963>made 2 BioWare sequels, a Bethesda spin-off, and a sequel to an obscure dungeon crawler series>Bethesda can't make a Fallout game in 11 years>Obsidian finally gets to make a second Fallout game because Xbox got fed up with Bethesda>now BioWare is shut down and open for saleLooks like it's time for the clean-up crew to come in.
>>4136023Bethesda might be next
Pouring one out for BioWare. Sooner or later EA'll cut you down.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdBAdBfvMKY
DING DONG BREAD RINE
>>4136034This is all the fault of nasty trorr. Instead of trorr getting ding dong bannu, Biowaru got ding dong bannuthis is rine ---------------------- rine ends here
>>4136027It all depends on Elder Scrolls 6
>>4136050Like that will ever happen
>>4136023You mean the company that made Avowed? They're getting shut down next, retard.
>>4135963>What if we took our gay fanfiction tier writing, put it in a program and called it a game?Good fucking riddance.
>>4135984Tfu
Studio was dead when the last of the three doctors left in 2012. Momentum got Inquisition out the door which was much gayer than previous bioware titles. It was the end right then and there. They had become a studio like Rare. Technically still existing but with none of the culture or people that actually built them. Squatters.
>>4136065>>What if we took our gay fanfiction tier writing, put it in a program and called it a game?New Vegas thread is down the hall
>>4135963Damn, maybe they should've made good games.
>>4135963>Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, KOTOR, Dragon Age, Mass Effect....>Anthem
>>4135963I think it deserves a sticky. BioWare is one of the most influential RPG's of all time. Yes, the newer games sucked but at their peak.. It WAS peak.
I used to love bioware, then inquisition and andromeda came out and everything went to shit.
>>4136161For a brief second as I looked at that screencap I remembered the feeling when Bioware was genuinely beloved. I've talked a lot of shit about them recently but I remember the good times. So long, fellas.
>>4135963Overdue, but fitting it happened when half the internet was down over PHP nonsense.
Bioware’s been lost since 2010. One can hope that the its spirit will, one day, rise from the ashes and bless the White race with a new BG-tier masterpiece.
>>4135963Fucking finally.They should have been closed after DA2 THOUGH.15 years of constant disappointment are finally over. jk the IPs will be bought out by someone (at least ME) and rape will continue
>>4135963They've been dead since March 5, 2013.
>>4135963Likely this means next ME they were working on was unsalvageable and they didn’t want to put money into it. Good call after veilshit. We’ll likely get some leaks of it soon.
>>4136111Seething biotroon. 1 > 3 > New Vegas > 4 > bos > 2 in terms of writing and it isn't even close
>>4136208Dragon age will be brought back as a mobile live service, but who will buy mass effect?
>>4136218>ragon age will be brought back as a mobile live service,SAARSAARALREDY HES BEENLY &ND GEME WAS SHIT SAARhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_of_Dragon_Age
>>4136221Well shit. Guess it's dead for good then. I want to rape merril
>>4136217>biotroon>”biological tranny goon”It’s time to log off. Dipshit kids don’t even know what words mean anymore.
>>4136223Nuh uh. It means slapping your dick with biowaste and using it as lube.
>>4136222I want to hug_ Morrigan
>>4136226I dont remember much, I'm pretty sure Morrigan was kinda stupid. At least merril has blood magic induced retardation.
>>4136228>Morrigan was kinda stupidMommy issues mall goth tsundere
>>4136228>>4136229* half of the post got lostShe was kinda dumb on purpose and the game allowed to either let her sort shit out (if you go romance route) or become dumber and more bitchy if you didn't touch her. Not that it matters since the only game that it is shown is cringequisition and in failguard (may pox be upon the developers) she is implied to be a dumb whore from tinderThe first iteration is somewhat cute thoughbeit
>>4135969About a decade. 2014's DA Inquisition was their best-selling game, despite the problems with the Frostbite engine. Idk what happened to Bioware after that. David Gaider leaving is one thing.
>>4136245Inquisition was the last hurrah. They pissed off the entire ME fanbase with 3 but held onto the dragon age fanbase. It's not that inquisition was horrible either, it was just a fine place to end everything given they were already on the edge after how EA made 2 go. Instead of Andromeda they should have made another dragon age. It would have kept the fire hot and given them time to do some real planning on how to address and carry on from the debacle of ME3.
>>4136245On the internal organization side itself Bioware heavily slowed down at making games. They only made three games between 2016-2026, compare it between 2005-2015 in which they released around 10 games. Their project management is really shit and rely on abusing their devs in an inhuman crunch time just to complete a game on schedule back in the day. It seems they are still shit and now can't abuse new employee as much as the older one who left en masse around 2015.
>>4136245EA happened. after doctors were kicked off they didn't have cohesive leadership and EA exec started meddling too much, changing trends. dreadwolf got restarted several times because some asshole wanted to make it live service etc
>>4136262Not really the best example given a portion of that timeframe is the EA crunch where they made their worst missteps.
>>4136256>The development of the fourth main entry in the Dragon Age series, code-named "Joplin", began in 2015 with Mike Laidlaw as its creative director. It was intended to be a smaller, more narrative-focused game set in the Tevinter Imperium region of the game's world setting, Thedas.>Development of the new Dragon Age was put on hold in late 2016, due to challenges with the development of BioWare's other games Mass Effect: Andromeda and Anthem, a massively multiplayer online game that was very different from Bioware's previous single-player games. Many Dragon Age contributors were pulled into the final months of Andromeda's development, with the remainder later joining the Anthem team, leading to "Joplin" being cancelled in October 2017. Several veteran Dragon Age staff, including Laidlaw, left the company in response to Joplin's cancellation in 2017.Maybe this does explain some of the downfall
>>4136266It's crazy how Anthem was simultanously so inconsequntial that it may as well not exist because I don't even remember it was a thing until someone mentions it, yet also probably the reason for Bioware's downfall.
>>4135963what the fuck is anthem???
>>4136274Exactly
>>4135963>BioWare is no morethis has unfortunately been the case for a few years already by now.
>>4135963>mfw we'll never get to meet a transgender reaper
>>4136287>green end>we will never see shepard bang a reaper
>>4135963>AnthemReally? They're in a rush to own up to that absolute trash fire?
>>4136294We'll bang, OK?
>>4136208Corpo will not sell those IPs. They learned not to sell them because they can become valuable in future. They will put them into a freezer and then unfreeze after 10 years, making some garbage nostalgiabait which will flop and bury them for another 10 years.
>>4136341The Blizzard way
>>4135963Yes yes yes yesI waited for it since 2011DA2 and ME2, never forgive, never forget
>>4136034>>4136040I was there. I spent two weeks at bullying that sperg.
>>4136208Zoomers will never know the absolute shock and disgust of seeing the first hour of DA2 in 2011. And then, TW2 came out. CDPR made a better Bioware game than Bioware itself.
>>4136217>3 and 4 mentioned at all>2 is bad>no FTcut your wrists and die
>>4136264Don't act as if those 2 faggots were any good.The fuckups of ME2 and DA2 happened under the doctors. Retards like Laidlaw, Gaider, Hamburger Helper allowed to do whatever they want, it all happened under the doctors. Faggotry? Doctors as well.
>>4136407Tactics is shit. It's interesting but that doesn't make it anything but a shit tactics goyme.>3 and 4 mentioned at all3 has good sidequests and mother's hip zeta was kino and 4 has good shooting even if everything else is worse than 3 and nv. 2 isn't bad, it just has worse writing than brotherhood of steel
I do not really care for dragon age or kotor Pretty much bioware lives and dies with the bhaalspawn saga and me trilogy in my mind
>>4135963>BioWare is no more.I'm going to be a controversial bastard and say good. Not because I dislike them and not just to be a fag but because it is their time. Bioware, like many of these legacy studios started with a dream and a small team, unfortunately they lost sight of their objectibe and with their success the scope of their projects has grown astronomically until their reach exceeded their grasp. The quality of their modern games has plummeted despite the ludicrous financial investments and the industry, and consumers, continue supporting them in spite of their failings all because of what they were, not what they are. They've had their time and they've had their time. The real tragedy is that they got greedy and were not prepared to bow out gracefully until it was forced upon them.
>>4136217>>4136419>>4136407As a proper fallout superfan that actually played all of these games and got into literal months long nma cat fightsIts S TIER 1, NVA TIER 2, SHELTER B TIER 3, 4C TIERBOSD TIER76 TACTICSI don't really get the tactics dicksucking, its incredibly boring and feels outright terrible to actually play. They should have only done turn-based and optimized for that instead of letting the player choose 2 extremely lesser modes.
>>4136430And bos is just a medicore but okay dark alliance ripoff
>>4136426>I'm going to be a controversial bastard and say good.That's not controversial at all
>>4136430Isnt 76 good now? Or at least better than eso and swtor?
>>413644376 is better than 1 and 2, I tell you that much.
>>4136443>Isn’t [game] good now?The answer to this is always no. A bad game is bad forever.
>>4136419>3 has good sidequests and mother's hip zeta was kino and 4 has good shootingKys. Just do it.
>>4136430This freakshow of a “person” put Fallout 1 (transcendental, unapologetic masterpiece) and New Vegas (decent, relatively memorable tranny game) in the same category.Xir also put Fallout 2 (timeless masterpiece that committed a number of sins) and Shelter (mobile product to part goyim NPC drones with their money) in the same category.I’ll revise the rating:S TIER1A TIER2B TIERNVC TIERTACTICS D TIERBOSF TIER (stands for FAGGOT, if you use these products, which I won’t even call games, you are a DROOLING FAGGOT)76 3 4 SHELTERIf you enjoyed Fallout 3 you are a tasteless FAGGOT. Dragon Age: Veilguard, with the she-man horned tranny that comes out as nonbinary, is a better game than Fallout 3. It at least has the balls to tell you: “This is my worldview and creative vision, if you don’t like it, go fuck yourself”. Fallout 3 desperately tries to appeal to the lowest common denominator, it pleads and begs you to walk around its pointless theme park, while pretending it is a computer roleplaying game. You probably got your tier list from a YouTuber, instead of playing the games.
>>4136598Not always. 90s and early 00s are full of perfectly fine 7/10 games which got destroyed by reviewers only because of the market oversaturation.
>>4136624You wrote all this and literally none of it is of value.You try to hard to fit inYes fallpurb1 and new Vegas are very obviously the peak of the series and I debate the two which I like more depending on mood.Didn't bother to read the rest.
>>4136598>>4136443I only played it years after it was supposedly made good and I thought it was incredibly terrible. New Altana content drop with a steam free weekend.There were like nothing to shoot at and most people just seemed really bored doing nothing. Like guys you can just play a mmo if you want boring gameplay to disguise an online chatroomCould not imagine how bad it was on launch
>>4135963You can see EA's clammy little hands on this spiral of death since they bought Bioware in 2007. Every year, they managed to fuck something up royally. Weird development cycles, unsure budgeting, and the corporate check lists of what should be in the game regardless if it makes narrative sense. I hate EA so much it's unreal. And the worst of all, the WORST, is the mongoloids believing fully that EA had nothing to do with Bioware's demise. That it was something else that caused this.
>>4136637It’s a wonder you can read in the first place if you think a mobile game is as good as FO2
>>4136663Haha this idiot thinks fallout 2 is exceptional and not just a 50% of the game is out right bad quick cash bloated with so much medicore bullshit22 locations Only 3 of them have anything worthwhile in it lmao The entire Modoc quest line is you just moving your charater than staring off jn space talk toa guy than click again to run Back 4ish times and turn in lol
>>4136658Bioware in 2010 had already nothing to do with Bioware in 2006. All competent people left. Freaks like Gaider got into high positions. It was getting worse with every year. The poor reviews of Bioware at job search websites, the shit quality of writing, close to non- existing QA, the gallery of technical glitches they got since the switch to Frostbite, all of it speaks for itself: the company destroyed itself.
>>4136674Same anonFallout 2 is alright but its so funny people give such a hard time for 3 when all 3 was doing was retreating a lot of fallout 2 ideasSo many times I seen someone shit on the president computer murdering the base in 3 setencesUhhhhhhhh you do that in fallout 2 you tell the scientist "you're bad" and he instantly gases everyone he has ever known and loved lol.If someone wants to argue 2 is remotely on par with 1 and 3 im going to need a strongly worded essay defending the pile of shit that is vault 13/san fran/ and oil rig AND why it was alright for like half of the early locations to be actually empty.Fallout 2 was a cash grab pushed out too early and it shows Lmao
>>4136681I wish i could get pay for arguing with retards online.
>>4136688>I wish i could get pay for arguing with retards online.Do what you love, and you’ll never work another day in your life.
>>4136426>with their success the scope of their projects has grown astronomically until their reach exceeded their graspBioware had its Icarus with ME2. Everything after that was damage control.
>>4135963should have died 10 or 20 yrs earlier before it went woke n broke.
>>4136708ME2 was already a blunder.>change of the level design from corridor shooter to arena shooter - partially fixed in ME3>poor man's Gears of War mechanics>"ammo">trash writing>dating sim>grindfest of space exploration: YES YES SCAN THE SURFACE YOU SLAVE YOU STINKY BEDOUIN AND DON'T FORGET TO BUY MORE PROBES
>>4136712This. It would be so satisfying to watch in 2014. Hell, back then I wanted to bet BW won't make it to 2020, the writing was already on the wall. Guess the woke points managed to extend their existence a bit longer.
>>4136688>let me spend all my time on a discussion website than get mad at discussionYou're the retard here, but you're most likely mad that I shat on F2 and you have no counter points.
>>4135963https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP3ieef0mpE>"Coming Soon"Here is a leaked trailer which was intended for release on N7 Day 2026
>>4135963>where were you wen nu-bioware dieI was furiously masturbating
>>4136560Nah, bruh. >>4136610>He doesn't love kinoship zeta>He didn't lik the vampire larpers based on that shitty book>He didn't like the replicated man>He doesn't like wasteland survival guide and moira brownSovless >>4136624>VeilguardAt least say 2. Inquisition and veilguard aren't bioware. Fallout 3 shits on those two with both raider dicks tied behind their backs.
I don’t think there would have been a big audience for Gay Minotaur sex simulators even if it wasn’t made by EA.
>>4137020>He didn't lik the vampire larpers based on that shitty bookThe vampire larpers were the most retarded thing that has ever appeared on the PC screen in a commercial game.It's hard to find a single positive thing about "FO" 3. The existing lore got massacred. The plot was idiotic. The writing was so bad it got legendary. The engine was fucked up. The combat was glitchy. Mods didn't fix it.Find the nearest railroads and jeet yourself so there's one fucktard less in this world.
>>4137047>AblublubluThe main plot IS retarded as fuck and the enclave suck, but the sidequests were kinoed af. The gunplay IS shit, but only fallout 4 and bloodlines got rpg shooter right. The trains suck dick, but popping raiders was based and no factions means you're not too stressed over gay shit. Its not the best fallout but it's still pretty based.
>>4137030Who will tell him.
>>4137020>Kinoship ZetaI'll add that phrase to my lexicon thank you very muchYou forgot to mention Operation Anchorage in your hastiness. The Lore behind that DLC is based in the sense that just try to imagine today the Pentagon knows for a fact Nuclear War is an absolute certainty within 10 years by 2036 at the very latest and their first thoughts at a "solution" are some conversation like this:>"General Chase, I have a good idea. You know what'd be fucking awesome?">"What is it, Colonel Cuntlord? Weren't you only hired to suck cock, why the Hell are you even speaking? Enlighten me quickly, I'm a busy man!">"Sir. Let's divert billions of US resources towards constructing a top secret underground bunker housing a VR Simulation Pod in DC forcing the participant to win the Chinese-Alaska War single-handedly! If one dies in the simulation one dies irl instantly. To weed out the riff-raff participants will require a Pip-Boy 3000 to play, and our hyper-realistic simulation will be just barely short of literally impossible to survive! If somebody actually does manage to miraculously survive it somehow though, he'll unlock full access to a secret impenetrable vault door containing ultra-advanced technology like stealth suits, top tier power armors, gauss rifles and insta-disintegration electro-shockswords and shit!">"I'm intrigued. Go on.">"Let HIM rebuild America in 500 years or however long it may end up taking for our master plan to come to fruition . . ">"HOLY BASED! I kneel, Colonel! Somebody give this cocksucker a promotion ASAP!"
>>4137077nta
Bioware used to be good 25 years ago... that's a quarter century ago...My most fond memory was the slums.Bandits chasing after you outside the scummy slave peddling inns.An epic giant sphere who was secretly the mage stronghold.A funny boat building that was the den of organised crime in the neighbourhood.Chasing bandits in the cover of the night over the rooftops of the slums with with your evil dwarf npc companions.Do you see how they used to be good at using picturesqye language with the limited means they had back then?That's the hallmark of great dungeon masters.
>>4137153No
>>4135963It's the 4th generation of buoware employees trying to take credit for the achievements of people who they hate. LOVE how they released a trailer for the never to be released ME game as if anyone but fanboys care. That series has been dead since the fucking xbox360.>From the studio that brought you AnthemThey have zero shame. Also hilarious they didn't mention the Star wars MMO either lmao.
>>4135963Leftists killed this company from within even before EA was acquiring them.Based Saudis for finally sending this one to the glue factory.Now if we can just close Bethesda decent companies might have room to breathe again instead of bloated diverse messes.
GOODFUCKINGRIDDANCE
>>4137112I couldn't tell what was going in that one because I was prescribed a high dosage of dph for some reason. Literally I couldn't tell wtf was going on.
>>4135963BioWare were BioWare in name only and hadn't made a single good game since 2012. Exodus is basically the next Mass Effect game.
>>4137310>>4137112Also I am legend is a decent book but I meant the third movie adaptation with keked Smith was shit. The Pitt's bleak tone is alright, but the plot is retarded even if you don't think about it. Point lookout would be great if the mutant hillbillies were good or at least neutral and you could ally with them to rape that faggot brain and ghoul. I'm sick of evil hillbillies. Gib bro hillbillies and hillbilly wife with half hillbilly children. I promise to somehow make that a reality once ai can make f3 total conversions with sub 80iq
close down all westcuck studios
>>4136023MS shoved their original IPs into the freezer you idiot
>>4135963Not shocked this hapened.Most of them got laid off after Veilguard came out.Then after the Saudi buyout it was obvious that the studio that made games with Gay characters would be axed at some point. It was not a matter of "if" but "when"
>>4137047>vampire larpersYou never get a clear answer if they're larps. Perhaps the bloodsuckers are Immortals. The Fallout franchise is no stranger to either the supernatural nor "easy-access" to Eternal Life. In Fallout 2 you get a quest from a ghost but you get want to act high and mighty protesting vampire quests? grow up>>4137154Bioware survived for an entire decade after 9/11>>4137156idk maybe I misread the reply-chain wrong as I haven't been this drunk in 90y67y years because I made a terrible mistake 23 hours earlier making life worse for millions in the West and East but frankly it was just an honest mistake guys. I feel guilty but who gives a shit? I learn more from my defeats than my failures anyway>>4137306Youre more based than I originally figured Chris>>4137310What wacky fucking land do you live in where Diphenhydramine requires a genuine doctor's prescription? In my state DPH is freely purchased OTC costing barely a penny per pound. I'd advise staying the fuck away from DPH. According to my sample studies short-term DPH abuse quickly results in more permanent brain damage than alcohol, LSD, coke, Med-X, shrooms, ketamine and fentanyl abuse combined cause slowly over the years long-term. Deliriant class chems are the worst drug you can abuse and DPH is the most poisonous deliriant unless you actually want to watch your IQ score level down from 175 to 75 in 1 month because bizzarro reasons>>4137323I am Legend used to be a book and 2 films? whoa. I worship Dogs as Gods per religious faith so loved it when it came out in 2007 and still like it today after Moderna killed my father 2 weeks later in his sleep as I find vaccine extinction tropes relatable>Good mutant hillbilliesThey're evil. Corrupted by Constance Blackhall's (or Ug-Qualtoth's) Krivbeknih for over 100 years>>4137366That was my estimate. But the Saudi savage apes didn't HAVE TO support gay parade RPGs. It'd be more profitable to just axe all gay nonsense from their RPGs
>>4137030>>4137077That is true, there are plenty of tumblrites and adjacent groups that love what Bioware writes, but I guess they care less about video games and more about books and tv, which is why Bioware went into the red, after normalfags started to buy their games less.
>>4137366Veilguard has a scene where a character sits down and mansplains being trans to his mother. Every person involved should've been executed, not fired.
>>4135984Ha! That explains a lot. Bunch of homos.
>>4135978What if they prefer the blue or green paint instead?
>>4135963Biowhores
still bizarre to live on biowareless world
>>4135963Reminder: in 2024 CDPR cancelled the cooperation with Molasses Flood (the so- called "Project Sirius").You may ask what does it have to do with Bioware. Here's the answer, they absorbed all developers who ran away from Bioware over the years. Incompetent fucks and diversity hires, and to make it worse they were supposedly the best Bioware got at the time. The same Bioware which got an unending stream of negative reviews on Glassdoor and made sure to scare away anybody with actual skill.Bioware committed a business suicide after wrecking the cRPG genre. I bet the only people remaining since 2016 were faggots, diversity hires and women.
>>4137482Than they should travel to the Serpent Nebula and paint the Presidium blue I suppose. EA does not hire Asari or Salarians. Their hiring department are racists who only employ Humans and AI whilst hypocritically claiming we're the real racists afaik
>>4137554>make a lesbian succubus race>make them bald and slimySeriously.. wtf were they thinking?
>>4137559Shameless pandering combined with comically inept execution basically sums up post 2010 BioWare. A horny high school nerd could have done better.
>>4137559>make a lesbian succubus raceI can explain. First of all lesbianism was not considered gay in the slightest in 2007. Mass Effect's first mistake was not making every girl bisexual except Ashley. Ashley should've a rare anomaly, the only straight girl in The Way>make them bald and slimySecondly this obviously wasn't their intent but it worked out in the form of a happy accident, realistically very few aliens would be attractive to the Human eye. And in-universe Milky Way residents are clearly more addicted to ALIEN MIND SEX than to the Asari physical form. I should add a conclusion as to why Asari look too Human. The Novels at least address the odd fact that one of the reasons Humanity climbed atop the Galactic food chain so quickly is we fit into Asari standards of beauty, granting Earth extra socio-political leverage
>>4137591>lesbianism was not considered gay in the slightest in 2007Stopped reading here. Zoom zoom
>>4137593>Zoom zoomI'm 137 sir. Zoomers weren't even a thing in 1889
>>4135984I'm honestly shocked by the number of basedchads that don't have the flag up, wonder how many got a talking to from HR?
>>4137596They were called telescopes back then
>>4137593Lesbians were just a porn genre. Faggots were a problem but not chicks doing things with each other (they are bisexual anyway)
>>4137601I had a "pleasure" to work in a company suffering from an overdose of ESG. Managers are told to put this shit in the background. As for anybody else, it's only a sign of a dangerous psycho willing to do anything just to suck up to his imaginary boss.
>>4137412It was just prescribed because my doctor thought I needed it. I had to use datura mixed with nutmeg to unlucky my brain and I still feel retarded. The experience was interesting even if I still couldn't tell what was going on in the dlc.>They're evilI know the backstory, but point lookout would still be better if the hillbillies were good and just want the retarded brain and faggot ghoul off their land.>>4137593He's right. Men glazed the shit out of lesbos in media in those times simply because they think two foids kissing = hot. You see it sitcoms, games, movies. Now that you have men pretending to be foids calling themselves lesbians and acutal lesbians, you see bizarre shit in games, movies, streaming TV shows, and sadly even cartoons.
>>4137611>I had to use datura mixed with nutmegOh shit nigga what are you doing.jpeg
>>4137591Imagine if you told a Japanese game dev to design an eternally youthful succubus alien race. Would they be bald and slimy with manjaws?
>>4137645I did not expect the culture war to take us to this point, where the Asari are claimed to not have enough sex appeal or male wish fulfillment.
>>4135963good riddance
>>4137777I've seen individuals from both sides of the culture war claim that Bioware was always "woke"
>>4137777Japan would have done it better.
>>4137645Those faggots would rather shit themselves than to put any sexy scalies in the game.
https://youtu.be/ZOWrTNazZxMCopypasting what this retard revealed about the game:>after the mass relays were destroyed, humanity was separated from the rest of the galaxy but they had the Citadel parked above Earth along with what remained of the Batarians and Krogan, they formed their own alliance. The Council races over time also built their own superstructures and formed their own alliances. Over 600 years in the future, the mass relays are all repaired and rebuiltFirst point and we're already retconning 3's ending, with Hackett implying the rebuilding of the relays happens within his lifespan and we outright seeing Wrex and Grunt, who were on Earth during the Catalyst activation, landing on Tuchanka in the Krogan DMZ relay. Now, suddenly, the galaxy was separated for nearly six centuries yet everyone somehow made it out.>technology has advanced so far from the aftermath of the Reaper War that it has reached a singular point. Reapers are outdated tech so if you chose Control, they're not going to be as impactful as they wereThe Reapers had been running the cycles for billions of years, but six centuries is enough to make them irrelevant? Their tech is outdated, which is why it took the galaxy 600 years to rebuild the relays?>everyone at this stage is part synthetic, so picking Synthesis works out a similar wayIt wouldn't if one of the points in your shitty new game revolved around the geth which may or may not be alive depending on this ending>and Destroy, well, even if Shepard survived he has long since passedBest ending, always was always will be>the third faction was the geth. These three factions aren't in open war, rather it's a cold war situation with an unknown enemy seemingly pulling the strings which you are sent out to investigateAN ANCIENT EVIL AWAKENS again. They didn't learn a goddamn thing
>>4138055>the geth built the white relays from the concept art years ago, which connects the Milky Way to AndromedaThoroughly retarded timeskip just to force Andromeda down our throats>you're an N7 agent, but unlike Shepard who the devs describe as a walking gun rack, you are an agent, a precision instrument. They wanted the gameplay to feel more like James Bond meets John Wick. You're a super spy, an agent, being tactful if you want and forceful when you need>what made Shepard special was being a Spectre. The new MC was gonna have experimental tech in your head that uniquely interacts with your physiologyWe have Johnny Silverhand at home.>you're able to interact with the world in unique ways. Think Cyberpunk 2077's hacking, looking through walls, finding pipes, exploding them remotely behind enemies, that kind of thingYou know, "that kinda thing". 600 years in the future, supposedly more advanced tech than even the fucking Reapers, yet you need brand new experimental shit in your head to scan pipes in walls when you could do that shit with a regular Omni-Tool back in the Shepard days>the implant is seen in action when biotic charging the Salarian and scanning his face to "gather information">your missions would be similar to 1, 2, and 3's traditional handcrafted maps, but you can approach them free form, similar to the Hitman series or the start of Noveria. You can talk to people, assess, analyze, and executewith more freedom. But if you wanted, you could go in guns blazing>"We then see our human female companion, and oh yes, she looks cute. She has a cute face and a good body. Maybe the devs knew it's what their audience wanted. Rich companions that weren't masculine and muted to keep certain people happy"Pussy trying too hard to defend his masters after a decade of failures>"If you slow it down, you can see that yes, the girl is naked in this romance scene. So, the game is going to be gritty, darker, and made for adults"Ditto
>>4138055>”not for people who don’t exist”What a strange thing to say….
I hearby declare 10/21 “Gamergate day” (there is no armistice).
>>4138055>nobody will give you as much as we can promise in a half assed sales pitch
>>4138057>You know, "that kinda thing". 600 years in the future, supposedly more advanced tech than even the fucking Reapers, yet you need brand new experimental shit in your head to scan pipes in walls when you could do that shit with a regular Omni-Tool back in the Shepard daysThis is why science fiction taking place in the distant future is a massive pain in the ass and nobody wants to touch it.This is why there's so many settings built around postapo, some kind of recovery after the postapo period, or in a peripheral war zone where deployment of any high tech shit is forbidden for strategic reasons.
>>4135963ALLAH AKBARALLAH AKBARALLAH AKBAR
>>4135963>Anthem dead last mentionedI think they should of snuck it in the middle to be less obv
I felt kind of done with Bioware after ME2 messed up a lot of the stuff I liked in ME1. I played ME3 just to see how they closed out the series (oh boy) and then never played a Bioware game again.
Fuck nu-Bioware but this was a good read.https://thewertzone.blogspot.com/2026/10/electronic-arts-shuts-down-bioware-and.html
>>4135963good riddance.
>>4137352They've done more sequels than originals, including 2 sequels to BioWare games already. That was the joke.
>>4136023Obsidian is also a walking corpse, since Avellone left
>>4137946They would have made them look completely human with some pointy ears.
>>4135963XAXAXAXAXA
>>4138673No, they would have made them oppai loli catgirls, and it would have been glorious.
>>4135969FPBPBioware hasn't produced anything that was genuinely good in over a decade. It's shitty that EA keeps ruining good studios, but Bioware has long gone past the point of no return and it's better to dissolve them now (and allow the few talented people they have left to find new jobs) than to keep the braindead husk on life support just to squeeze some extra bucks from its IPs.
>>4138849>and allow the few talented people they have left to find new jobsNo such thing. Everybody who had actual skill left the company in early 10s. Only hacks and diversity hires remained. The studios created later by former employees turned out to be full of hacks as well, see the Mollasses and their fuckup with CDPR. Whatever remained in Bioware until this day is nothing but human trash.
>>4138858Brainless NPC comment. Just because the studio is lead by corpo retards and can't produce anything worthwhile anymore as a result doesn't mean there aren't still good programmers, artists, etc. stuck in the wheels. Plenty of talented people choose to work for shit companies like Bioware either because they have an idealized nostalgic image of them, or simply because it's a big name and it looks good on a resume. It's why so many people want to work for Amazon despite Amazon being a notoriously shitty employer.
Just saw that Pembridge TV uploaded an interview with John Winski from Bioware. In a short Winski says EA saved Bioware, since they were in debt, from working on Dragon Age Origins for 7 years.
>>4138863Would you look at my previous post>>4136675There was nothing of value left there.
>>4138867You can restate the same thing over and over until you're blue in the face, but that doesn't change the fact that you're a brainless NPC who has no idea what you're talking about.A major development studio isn't some monolithic hive-mind entity.
>>4138871>ME3 has already big problems (2010 - 2012)>all games developed since 2013 show abysmal QA, objectively worse than Bethesda, and suffer from serious flaws every aspect, from technicalities to writing>average Glassdoor review: Libera Te Tutemet Ex InferisDo you know what does it say about the company and people working there? It says the company collapses and there are only retards left. Everybody competent either already run away, screaming in terror, or still sits there for whatever reason, while a crowd of new hires fuck up everything they touch, and it happens because nobody with an actual skill wants to work there anymore.It's not some kind of forbidden knowledge. The logic remains the same, no matter if the company in question produces porcelain or multimedia software. You would know that if you had ever worked a real job in any industry.I think you are a shill, faggot and liberal.Based Saudis sodomized your faggy Bioware all right.
>>4138055>Liana returns! Powerful girlboss!given her design in the recently released post-closure trailers I have to assume the rest of those claims would have... fallen flat as well.
>>4138921>Liana returnsAka "we're recyling old ideas because we have nothing new"
>>4135963Once a company has been dead that long you get this worse and worse residue of corporate employees that are too shiftless and beaten down to leave and get a decent job at a different non-mummified company doing basically the same shit but without being surrounded by losers.
Think of how much money EA wasted letting these retards make faggot propaganda. It had to be some sort of ESG slush fund to keep giving them chance after chance after chance.
>>4138967Why is everyone so fucking ugly
>>4138986This is what you get when all experienced employees prefer unemployment or switching to webdev hell than to stay in your company.I hope the dumbfuck who posted this shit before>>4138863>>4138871sees it and feels really silly now.Here, fucker, have another one. The peak of Bioware 2014. After the mass exodus of everybody with enough brain to read a newspaper and breathe at the same time.
Now when you think about it, it's unbelievable how poorly Bioware managed its own IPs. Mass Effect got slaughtered, calling it otherwise would be an understatement.>create a totally-not-SW space fantasy setting with MC being a space James Bond>it gains popularity>railroad it into an apocalyptic event in ME2 instead of exploring it further (reminder: the MC is a space James Bond)>people might love it or hate it but the hype for next game is there>wreck it in ME3 beyond repair: everybody is dead, all species got exterminated and turned into cyborg monstrosities, finish with 3 endings making any continuation impossible without going full Deus Ex Invisible WarAn intentional sabotage to fuck with EA? A brain damage from spoiled maple syrup? A petty war between different writers? Certain things can't be explained rationally.
>>4139023Seeing how Star Wars is doing after 40 years perhaps it is a good thing that Mass Effect died in the cradle
>>4139023>finish with 3 endings making any continuation impossibleBased
>>4135963Studio brands mean nothing. It was the specific artists that participated in each game what mattered. Most people who made those games have probably been gone from that company for decades.
>>4139023Shamus Young had a great article on how masterful the setup for a whole new setting was in Mass Effect 1, and how the writers seemingly went out of their way to undermine and destroy all of it in the sequel. https://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=52293It was indeed one of the biggest fumbles in this industry. I can only attribute it to cocaine or something. A narrative lead who was best buddies with the higher ups who was also way too high on his own supply. I think the aim was to ramp up the stakes and "subvert expectations," that now infamous phrase, and they just ended up piling on way too much of that. Maybe someone realized this was wrong-headed in the middle of development, but by then far too much work had already been done and they had to proceed.
>>4139074good luck ever convincing most gamers of that lmao
>>4139108the simplest explanation is the scope of it all. there is no realistic way you can make a trilogy the way they promised, with "every choice mattering and everything you do affecting the outcome two games from now" and on and on.
>>4139023>it's unbelievable how poorly Bioware managed its own IPsNo shit?
>>4137559The tentacles or whatever they are fill the role of hair and idk where you're getting slimy from.
>>4136341This plus no one wants to be the guy who decided to sell an IP if another company makes a highly successful game with it, because then people at his company will say "why aren't we the ones making the money?" Companies don't sell IPs unless they're about to go bankrupt.
>>4139236MDK2 was great
>>4139236>InterplayWhy all autists seem to be incapable of understanding the basics of ownership?The IPs belong to a different publisher and since said publisher is declared bankrupt, they are in a legal limbo.
>>4136724Adding in the ammo was a really retarded idea.
>>4139630Actually adding ammo was good game design.
>>4139651HOLY BRAIN ROT
How is this possible? They just released a critically acclaimed game!
>>4139175>the simplest explanation is the scope of it allYou are wrong. They had it figured out. The C&C, Bethesda and Bioware way- you get an extra dialog option if you did a thing, some minor change in NPC appearing or disappearing, no real branching. Perfectly achievable in the (shitty) way they invented.It's the direction that was the real problem. You don't establish a setting over 2 games to destroy it completely in the third one. You want a conflict or a villain to pose a danger for the fictional status quo in the setting, not a literal apocalypse. The MC was a James Bond involved in black operations, there was at least 1 cold war out there, the reaper cult could be still a thing lurking in the shadows- but for fuck sake, not a genocidal warfare to end all life in the known universe. It wasn't even a military science fiction. It sucked ass as a military science fiction.
>>4139670>You don't establish a setting over 2 games to destroy it completely in the third one.The second game already shat all over the first game established setting.
>>4139670That was set up in the first game though? You don't remember the awfully executed scene where you are force fed the lore in a static info dump with a hologram terminal?Mass Effect 2 was the direction that the series needed. It still even has the Reapers, and they are executed well in game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KarASQhk1bw This shit was figured out 5 years ago
>>4139754Not watching this shit, but ME2 is by far the most popular and beloved entry in the series and it's not even close. It's considered the highlight of the franchise. If you're a bitter secondary holding on to the unfinished ME1, you're exactly that. A secondary.
>>4139761>if you’re a secondary holding on to [the first thing]lmao
>>4139761>ME2 is by far the most popular and beloved entry in the seriesNot an argument
>>4135963Good riddance. They produced nothing but slop since Baldur's Gate 2.
>>4139761ME2 is the most popular game in the franchise because it pioneered the now wildly popular storytelling focus of high-budget RPGs, relationship simulators. See BG3 and Cyberpunk for examples. In ME1 romance and friendships were included but as flavor, not as narrative threads just as big as the main plot. ME2 derailed the main plot established in ME1. Which is why ME3 couldn't stick the landing. It could have juggled both competently but it didn't. It's not a bad game but it is very flawed.
>>4139754kek a couple of minutes in i was like "is this zoomer seriously going to just regurgitate mrbtongue and shamus young's essays" and then i noticed it was shamus young's channel
>>4139763Mass Effect doesn't even have secondaries. Mass Effect is exclusively the video games.
>>4139761>ME2 is by far the most popular and beloved entry in the series and it's not even close.Let's eat shit, millions of flies cannot be wrong!Still, I personally find ME2 weakest part of the series, it is first and foremost the weakest GAME in the series - it's an awful cover shooter, which is especially noticeable on Insanity difficulty, where you get your shields stripped in maybe one second and it's just waiting for special skills to cool down so you can take down enemy's shields/barrier/armour and MAYBE put few shots downrange, every combat encounter is a fucking slog. Game tossed out the equipment, weapon and ammo mods (gives powers instead, but they are else locked behind classes or loyalty missions, ammo powers on squadmates are a waste anyway because they cannot do shit with their guns), introduced THERMAL CLIPS (thankfully in ME3 they gave us M7 Lancer which was the fucking GOAT), dumbed down character building to bare minimum that made Call of Duty multiplayer seem crazy detailed by comparison, scanning planets fucking sucked balls and you had to spend hours sending probes to upgrade shit. But people are cutting it slack for cool ayys and people being able to die. ME1 for all its faults at least was an ARPG, not pretending to be one, while ME3 was very fun shooter. ME1>ME3 >ME2 (with mod for replenishing ammo, also makes Vindicator not fucking suck)>ME2 (without mod).>t. finished whole trilogy 7 times
>>4139782>Mass Effect doesn't even have secondaries. Mass Effect is exclusively the video games.The term can still apply to video games if we are talking about a series that got spin-offs not made by the original developers (e.g. “New Vegas secondaries”) but I agree that it does not apply to sequels made consecutively by the same studio.
>>4139808fpbp
>>4139761Holy retard.
>>4139782I'd consider people that got into ME with the remaster secondaries.
Normally I hate this overly corporate mindset towards studios where everything exists to fuel the infinite money machine and all must be sacrificed for the investors so burn it all down to strip out the copper wire...but on the flipside, when's the last time BW made a game people like? ME3 without the ending? That game is 14 years old now. How long should a studio continue to exist "just because"?
>>4136256>It's not that inquisition was horrible eitherIt doesn't play very well, like I can actually forgive the writing and the open world design and the fucking WEIRD graphics the game has, but it's just not particularly fun to play.
Bioware dying is learning that the guy addicted to bathsalts, who suffered abuse from his step dad, jumped off a bridge.Tragic, but not surprising.
>>4140036It's always depressing to see normies talk about "Bioware" without understanding that games are made by people, and the actual people who made the good games all quit or got fired when EA took over the company in 2010. It's like Pavlov's Bell, normies salivate over the brand name but are too stupid and brainwashed to realize the food dish disappeared 16 years ago. Although Tale of Two Brothers wasn't my cup of tea, Exodus looks good and Eventide was alright.Fitting that Dr. Z and Yip retired from gaming entirely to be doctors and make beer.
bioware died the second EA bought itif you enjoyed any EA bioware games you're a retarded faggot
>>4140064Also Banner Saga which was made by ex-BW people, and yeah the third game kinda shit the bed but not in a franchise-ruining way, it just wrapped up in a way people didn't like.
>>4139768>ME2 is the most popular game in the franchise because it pioneered the now wildly popularME2 is clear continuation of BG2.
>>4140064>>4140064In theory, every long lived studio will have a large turnover of personnel.But you assume the culture design philosophy, , assets, pipleine will pass down to the newer devs who will stay a while and not get flushed out after a single project.
>>4140293In a vacuum maybe. When EA is involved? Definitely not.
>>4140411Westwood managed. Until the bitter end 8 years later.
>>4140411>EA ruined BioWare by wasting tens of millions of dollars on the shitty games trannies made!LGBT - always found on site, holding the smoking gun, yet somehow never responsible.
>>4135977Do you think ME3's hubbub is why they changed gears to whatever it is came after? Like that was the moment the big studios decided the old story-driven, non-live-service model didn't work anymore?
>>4140461>live-serviceI had never heard of this before Battlefield 5 (which fucking sucked) and I hate it so much
>>4140461The trend was already there and it had nothing to do with whatever shitstorm biodrones could come up with about the ME3. All publishing companies didn't like the idea of a game as a standalone product you could just buy, once, and enjoy as long as you want on your own terms. MMOs were still making money and the suits decided this should be the standard, a direction for the next 10 years.
>>4140461>Do you think ME3's hubbub is why they changed gears to whatever it is came after? Like that was the moment the big studios decided the old story-driven, non-live-service model didn't work anymore?... I don't think you people even know what live service model means
>>4140444Westwood was bought out by EA fairly early on, like early PS2 era, and EA was actually a pretty different company back then. Plus C&C games consistently sold well so there was no reason to rock the boat.But then they spent an absolute shitton of EA's money on RA3. Now RA3 did not do badly, it actually did pretty damn good numbers. But it was a DIsney's Fantasia situation where the good gross numbers (Fantasia was like the 2nd or 3rd highest-grossing film that year) just didn't make up for the astronomical production cost.
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>>4140622>unironically linking to some e-celeb's hours long video Off yourself.
>>4136245>DA InquisitionI'm still, to this day, wondering why this piece of shit sold as well as it did.This is the first game from Bioware that made me realise that it's a rotting corpse of a studio.
>>4141161The ladies loved it. You get to have sex with a minotaur.
>>4141170And people thought BG3 was crazy!
>>4135984https://youtube.com/shorts/KtCsD_bbCUU?is=jnKzVIBgsW5uwOvj
>>4141161Was one of the first open world medieval fantasy RPGs in a post-Skyrim world. Was designed as a normie magnet.
>>4138079>”not for people who don’t exist”>see we were really on your side all along things like cisquisition would have never have happened if we had just been allowed to do what we want like pushing unskippable literal tranny propaganda The very best liars in the world lie to themselves before anyone else.Rest in Piss Liberalware
>>4141161>the formerly snarky cool guy from DA dlc becoming a weepy gay in 2 and blowing up a church wasn't enough clueI guess many were too young or doing that millennial cope thing.
>>4142026This was ok because DA2 Anders is an abomination. This is not DA:A Anders.>>4141170>>4141540Makes sense. It's probably that simple.DA:I was before the Witcher 3, right?
>>4136624Trying too hard desu
>>4142033>This was ok because DA2 Anders is an abominationDA2 itself was an abomination.>DA:I was before the Witcher 3, right?No, it's not the issue here.DA:I came first, but that doesn't say shit about the market. It was already getting flooded with open world games since 2009. Open world games aka "have fun in the big empty space with some randomly generated shit".DA:I made it big because everybody expected DA3 to be a good game and the pre- gamergate audience was still naive like kids with down syndrome.DA2 was an overhyped DISASTER and the game got OWNED by the Witcher 2, despite TW2 having its own issues.But ME2 was also a disappointing. A lot of problems with the gameplay got fixed or at least addressed in ME3. ME3 was a solid game. That was the point: BW accepted the feedback and fixed glaring issues in the sequel. Everybody expected it will be exactly the same with DA:I. And then they got DA2:Reloaded.And that was the nail to the coffin of DA: Failguard, because at this point, after 2 fuckups, the customers would be very, very skeptical about any new DA even if it turned out to be a flawless game with top- notch writing and sexy content for heterosexual audience.
>>4142026>the formerly snarky cool guy from DA dlc becoming a weepy gay in 2 and blowing up a church wasn't enough clueEh heh heh
>>41420891/2>DA2 itself was an abomination.I strongly disagree. DA2 was severely undercooked, but there were the markings of a good game. Had they had an additional year to cook, it would've been a masterpiece.The gameplay is essentially the same as it was in DA:O. Everybody is saying that DA2's combat was heavily actionised, but I don't see it. It's the same thing. The only big blunder is that someone had the bright idea to put waves of enemies into every second encounter, which makes combat a high-stakes whack-a-mole game, but it was present in DA:O and it sucked just as much there.The influence system is straight-up superior to DA:O, as well as gift-giving.The dialogue wheel is a step backwards, though, not gonna lie.>DA:I made it big because everybody expected DA3 to be a good gameWhy? I liked DA2, but the general consensus was that it's a piece of shit, no?> But ME2 was also a disappointingI can see why, but it's probably the best setup/payoff that I've seen in any RPG>ME3 was a solid gameME3 had fantastic shooting, at least on a k+m. Other than that, it was a mixed bag with a blunder of an ending, and I'm not talking about the narrative per se. Had it been structured similarly to ME2, it would've had much better reception.>And then they got DA2:Reloaded.DA:I? Get the fuck out of here. DA:I squandered everything.
>>41421032/2It's an open world game. It straight-up makes DA:I worse. It waters down everything.My best friend didn't get past the Hinterlands: he is the type to do everything available, so he got bored and just stopped.You need to fundamentally rework combat: it's either DA:O(I played the PS3 version out of curiosity, it's surprisingly controllable via the gamepad) or Mass Effect 3, in-between sucks, as we can see with DA:I. It's shit as a TPS and shit as a tactical combat game. It's just shit.The story progression blows: almost none of the setups actually have payoffs.It has "barely disguised author's fetish" writing blunders like Krem: we saw how qunari deal with individuals who cannot change their immutable characteristics(mages) in DA:O and DA2. The thought that they'll accept a man telling them that he's a woman and vice versa is laughable. At best, you'd be beaten. At worst, we saw the Qunari mage in DA2. It's a small thing, but somebody let it happen. And this process was used to write the rest of the game. Propagandists should bring the coffee to an actual writer and never be allowed to write. Resource management sucks: the only person who can save the world and also leads a huge organisation gathering resources by hand, outperforming the whole organisation in the process. Ridiculous.The castle management is non-existent and it doesn't change anything. It doesn't even have a small effect on the ending like it did in the Awakening. iirc you don't even free it by yourself like you did in one of the DA:O DLCs.I don't quite remember what the deal was with crafting and gear, but there were issues there too.Some of the companions(like Cole) were decent, some of the segments were ok, and MILF Morrigan was somkin hot and that's about it.
>>4142103>DA2>The gameplay is essentially the same as it was in DA:O
>>4142116It was. It's much faster and flashier, but it's the same tactical combat at its core.Also I think that the game designers realised that waves of enemies were a mistake, so they're almost non-existent in the DLCs.Certainly not in the Corypheus one.That reminds me: >>4142110PS The camerawork in DA:I was a huge step back even compared to DA:O, let alone DA2
>>4142118>when you press the button something awesome has to happen. So button = awesome, connected now in Dragon Age 2.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF1vS4rRey0Are you dumb or retarded? DA2 switched from the almost- NWN2 combat model of DA:O to an unholy hybrid of NWN2 and pseudo- TPP WoW combat. There was no tactics, no importance of character placement, just waves of randomly generated enemies appearing out of nowhere and exploding with absurd fountains of gore. A retarded kid emptying a box full of toy soldiers on its head, that's how the combat in DA2 looked like.The "awesome" presentation was the final nail to that coffin.
>>4142130>just waves of randomly generated enemies appearing out of nowhereI already addressed this point twice.Yes, this blows. And it blowed just as much in DA:O. Issue is, DA2 has more of that for some idiotic reason.>exploding with absurd fountains of goreCosmetics.>when you press the button something awesome has to happen. So button = awesome, connected now in Dragon Age 2And this is wrong because...? Making something flashier doesn't automatically make it bad.>unholy hybrid of NWN2 and pseudo- TPP WoW combatWhich was pretty good. Also when it doesn't throw waves of enemies at you, positioning and timing matters again on higher difficulty levels. It's pretty good when you turn friendly fire on.
>>4142137>So button = awesome, connected now in Dragon Age 2>And this is wrong because...? Making something flashier doesn't automatically make it bad.Which youtuber started this "button awesome is reason DA2 is bad" programming on NPCs?
>>4142168It's older than that. It was one of the main points of DA2 hatred back in the day. Back when /v/ was significantly more hive minded than present day. That and Jennifer Hepler and that you had to play as Hawke instead of a created PC. Actually a little nostalgic to see it again in the wild. Kinda like stumbling on a No Mutants Allowed boomer still parroting "oblivion with guns."
>>4142174>Kinda like stumbling on a No Mutants Allowed boomer still parroting "oblivion with guns."Funnily enough, I recently replayed both Oblivion and FO3 for the first time since they were new. FO3 really is just oblivion with guns.I was a goon though, we always made fun of NMA.
>>4142168Incredible projection, tourist
"People" are seriously trying to argue that Dragon Age 2 isn't garbage now?
>>4142181Eventually they will defend Veilguard as well. It's only a matter of time.
>>4142174Oh yeah the Hepler thing too. /v/ has always been regarded
>>4142182>x was a bad sequel, but a good gameMany such revisionisms
>>4142103>it's probably the best setup/payoff that I've seen in any RPGIt got rid of everything ME1 set up to try and be a soft reboot narratively.>Had it been structured similarly to ME2ME2 derailed the entire fucking trilogy.
>>4135963Good riddance.
>>4142103>ME3 had fantastic shooting, at least on a k+m.It's great, better on a controller, like most games. One of the reasons I prefer consoles, along with my TV and sound system.
>Feel like trying some bioware games I've never played since they are now dead, such as jade empire and NWN.>Try out dragon age 2>After 30 minutes I turn into Joe Pesci wondering what the fuck is this piece of shit>Have to care about some village hometown being blown the fuck up despite never seeing it. Just see my little forced family run with me in what appears to be the fucking wasteland>Dialogue is flat, VA's don't seem to care with their voice acting for the most part, designs are all over the place. >UI is fucking terrible, combat is questionable, clicking on enemies is annoyingI don't think I can stomach seeing it get any worse despite wanting to see how shit it was. It not too surprising since I didn't even think Origins was that good when I played it 12 years ago.
>>4142192Dragon Age 2 was so bad I never bought another EA game ever again period (this has held to this day) and basically stopped buying "AAA" games in general with the occasional exception.
>>4142178I was a G&Ter(I've always lurked 4chan but never considered it my main forum until nerd communities went insane in the 2010s) and we did too. We also all agreed it was Oblivion with Guns, though, because that is obvious the second you start moving your character.
>>4142186>It got rid of everything ME1 set up to try and be a soft reboot narratively.>ME2 derailed the entire fucking trilogy.Yes, this is why I said that I see why people hate it.The whole game is a massive side-quest. But if you look at it as a stand-alone item, it's the best side-quest ever.Suicide Mission is an awesome payoff for the game-long setup. That's, combined with the decent moment-to-moment gameplay, what made it popular.I realised that the next game would be derailed the moment I ended conversation with Sovereign. It's either going a massive retcon or humanity will lose.As it stands, Shepard just bought a bit of time and we're still boned.>>4142190I'll try a gamepad playthrough someday, but X to doubt. I remember hardly ever using pause when playing k+m, and I doubt it'll be this smooth with a gamepad.
>>4142186Until this very day I can't understand who in the hell could think killing the main character in the first 5 minutes of the sequel was a good idea.They could do it and show Shepard getting "resurrected" AS A FUCKING CLIFFHANGER AT THE END of ME2.The zombie terminator cyborg Shepard was never explored in any way in ME2 or ME3, btw. Pointless and really weird decision. An unbelievable fuckup. I don't know if there was anything like this in video games, ever.The end of Ultima VIII Pagan?
>>4142192>After 30 minutes I turn into Joe Pesci wondering what the fuck is this piece of shitAnd that was just DA 2 demo released in early 2011. I wonder how anybody could think "meh, it will be fine" and preorder this crap.
>>4142178If you didn't join the taliban of rpgcodex in 2009, you were either a kid or a moron.
>>4142206I've always thought that it wasn't a true death, just a clinical one on the edge of what ME universe tech can solve.If you think about it, death is a moving target. First it was one's breath. Then it was one's heart. Then the brain.Death is a function of medical science advancement.But yes, this whole thing was questionable at best.
>>4142192>>Have to care about some village hometown being blown the fuck up despite never seeing it. Just see my little forced family"my"Kek what an autist
>>4142211Are you unable to see things from the point of view of the character you're playing?
>>4142213Imagine roleplaying in a roleplaying game.
>>4142213Are you unable to understand losing your hometown is upsetting without personally seeing the hometown?>oooh so it's a town where their home was! now i get it
>>4142192HAMBURGER HELPER AND DAVID GAYDORNEVER FORGET NEVER FORGIVE
>>4142233>Basically Jennifer Helper did some really ableist writing with Anders in Dragon Age 2, especially when she decide to make the story not about Anders and his struggles, but how his struggles negatively impact and burden Hawke. She basically wrote a story of how to properly “contain” a neurodivergent person in a relationship (friendship or romantic), which was just fucking terrible.She is responsible for the pretty toxic portrayal of Branka and Hespith as well, which considering../v/ and tumblr should have teamed up on this witch hunt
>>4142250She’d be oyyying to the vey if someone write anders sympathetically for blowing up a bunch of sheenies.
>>4142250>BrankaWas unironically an awesome character.She is a monster, but she was pretty much right.
>>4142233>dragon age 2>not boring and genericlol
>>4142206The timeskip and working for Cerberus in general was an awful move, but if they absolutely wanted to go in that direction there was no logical reason to not just have Shepard fall into a coma. Exact same result just less retarded. Killing him and introducing the baffling concept of *curing death* was so idiotic it's unreal.
>>4142206>The zombie terminator cyborg Shepard was never explored in any way in ME2 or ME3EXTRRRRRREME RENEGADE PLAYTHROUGH
lmao
>>4142206>>4142320yep, this was a shockingly awful idea, rivaling the me3 ending sequence in its stupidity and overall destructive effect it had on the narrativeme3 is at least understandable because you can argue it's rushed or that they could have never made a satisfactory ending with the setup they had. the me2 opening is an entirely unforced error, so it's more contemptible.
>>4142206> Until this very day I can't understand who in the hell could think killing the main character in the first 5 minutes of the sequel was a good idea.ME 1 and 3 also had poor openings all things considered.In ME1 you get shoehorned into Saren will destroy humanity with Reapers by Anderson, making Council and Udina sane ones.In 3 the part until you get to Mars is very hollow, trying to force shock from the confused officials through that stupid kid.
>>4142320>The timeskip and working for Cerberus in general was an awful move, but if they absolutely wanted to go in that direction there was no logical reason to not just have Shepard fall into a coma.Working for Cerberus is kino. Coma would be lame.>you didn't believe me and now the reapers put me into a.. a coma!>bro chill it's not like you died>frick off i'm joining the evil nazis now
>>4142940>In ME1 you get shoehorned into Saren will destroy humanity with Reapers by AndersonShepard himself sees the beacon vision, he's all in on believing the toaster lobsters are real.>making Council and Udina sane onesBy that point the Council's already been characterized as a group that tries to protect its own, keep the satus quo over investigating shit and distrust humanity due to their fast growth and the events of Revelation. Most players will be on Anderson's side during a regular playthrough.>3The unfortunate reality of a game with too rushed a development, trying to cram two games worth of content into one because the Collectors were a waste of time.>>4142951>Working for Cerberus is kinoNobody sane believe this.>Coma would be lameAgreed, the point is that 2's beginning is bad. The best choice is neither, but coma is infinitely less retarded than being dead for two years.>i'm joining the evil nazis nowNot like you get a choice anyways.
It's hilarious how Bioware fangays are all boiled frogs and they don't even know it. The rainbow 'people' didn't ruin Bioware. It was the natural end state, where Bioware was headed from the start. All the cringe had its seeds planted in BG2 already and the company was on a path of no return by the time DA:O came out.>THIS IS THE NEW SHIT>GAY SEX GAY SEX>same trope templates repeated but gayer every time>same nothingburger fake choices and consequences>MMORPG turd combat systemI remember how even the likes of Vince D. Weller swept for DA:O at the time, but I was one of the old-gods who said it's shit from the start.
>>4143290Biodrones are crying right now
>>4143290This might be right, and it makes me think Larian is on the same track, with BG3 just being a gayer, dumbed down, but more "cinematic" version of DOSII. Will they be the next to fall?
>>4143290>THIS IS THE NEW SHIT That was kino, pseud. The truth of the matter is that there's a bit of a difference between 90s lefty politics and 2020s lefty politics. You wouldn't see a military main character punching a news reporter live on air in such a way it becomes an iconic moment they repeat another two times in the sequels as a player choice in a modern BioWare title.
>>4135969I jerked off to their official time of death for what those cunts did to me2+da2. Fuck em.
>>4143265>Agreed, the point is that 2's beginning is bad. The best choice is neither, but coma isThe beginning is great. Crazy that for all this nitpicking, fucking henpecking, all you can come up with is>uhh what about a coma??
>>4135963>>4135969first they killed it from the inside, now its dead on the outside.
>>4142951>>4143365lol nice bit
>>4143365>The beginning is greatWhat part? When important facts of the world and characters are changed for no discernible reason at all? When it is thematically and tonally unlike first game after it primed us and the main characters for a quest for knowledge and discovery that never took place? When the opening crawl states "humans seized political control of the galaxy" yet they attempt to quell rumors of the Reapers aka the source of their recent political power? When a retconned Cerberus wants to help Shepard, because humanity will follow Shepard, but they feel they themselves need to help Shepard because… nobody is following Shepard? When TIM reads the script to know Shepard's about to fail ie get killed by a deus ex machina? When TIM sends Miranda to help Shepard with a problem he doesn’t have yet so TIM can recruit him for a problem that doesn’t exist yet? When the supposedly clandestine Collectors brazenly attack the Normandy when they supposedly act in secrecy at every other point in the plot? When they don't scoop up or destroy the obvious escape pods after they win the battle? When nobody in the Alliance or the Council follows up and sends a force out to find out what happened to their effectively brand new trillion-credit super stealth ship and their "hero and bloody icon"? When it blows up the Normandy and kills the main character, ejects all the squad members from the story, then brings Shepard back to life and poofs the Normandy 2 into existence under the management of extremists, stating your loyal Alliance crew abandon their lifelong careers to work for this terrorist organization that was blatantly behind some atrocities that Shepard dealt with in the first game?Mass Effect 2 is a premise that is inherently contradictory and throws away everything the first game worked its ass off to accomplish. It feels like a sequel made by someone who actively loathed the original. Changes require planning, not spectacle and brute force.
>>4143377Rebirth, uneasy alliance. A great start for a second game.
The setup is bad when you look at it with a strict adherence to 1. If you just realize that Mass Effect 1 isn't good, though, and retcon most of it out, it works fine. Mass Effect has bad writing and even worse delivery; why shouldn't it be retconned?
>>4143387>RebirthThat's bad.>uneasy allianceThere's no uneasiness to something in which you can blatantly see the writer's hand behind the screen, with a group you're not allowed to vocally disagree with.>A great start for a second gameYou've failed to argue every single point I've brought up, precisely because you know you cannot.
>>4143396>That's bad.That's good>There's no uneasinessThere's uneasiness
>a post that reaches character limit explaining exactly what's wrong with the intro, with a myriad of different examples in order stopping at Shepard's death, not even getting into Project Lazarus or TIM as a whole >literally no argument outside of "no u" as a response And that, ladies and gents, is what happens when you try to discuss vidya in good faith with ME2 cultists(You)
>>4136341So that means they will become in time abadonware? They are stupid enough and delusional to draw them away from gog and steam, and origin is slop at managing games.then again I hope too much.
>>4143303>That was kino, pseud.Hilarious meltie from an underage insecure projecting broccoli hair. You mean it "was kino" because it was made before you were born, and '''old''' (for broccolis) = '''good'''. DA:O has nothing to do with "90s lefty politics" either, it had the exact same "politics" as later BioWare games, they were just forced to make the dudes muscular for sales and the whoriest whore "sexy".
>>4143471>'''old''' (for broccolis) = '''good""lol what are you talking about moron, zoomers hate old shitdon't even bother replying i'm not going to read your dumb bullshit
>>4135963bioware did immense damage to the sonic franchise. rest in piss.
>>4143486lol
>>4143471Damn, you sound mad.
>>4143290>THIS IS THE NEW SHITThat trailer was a subtle joke at your expense. Too bad you could realize it only when you were at the 3/4 of the game.
>>4143471I too remember Sten taking my Warden aside and telling him about the famous Qunari non-binary.
>>4143527Funny that you mention Sten when he's used by the writers to have the "women are hecking valid as warriors you know!!!!" conversation.
>>4143542With him being the one arguing against it, yes.
>>4143471nta, but the lgbt stuff isn't the issue in itself.DA:O didn't reek of propaganda >>4142110
>>4143377>Mass Effect 2 is a premise that is inherently contradictory and throws away everything the first game worked its ass off to accomplish. It feels like a sequel made by someone who actively loathed the original.If you think about it now, it's the same situation as with the SW:TLJ.A fight between two retards doing an incredible damage to the franchise.Suits think the development of a plot- heavy game is no different than manufacturing a shitter. They think games (and movies as well) can be designed by a committee, anybody can be replaced at random stage of the production, "team players" yielding to each other are better than a strong leader with a vision.You can easily spot this approach in game development, it's the last 15 years when AAA sucks in general.
>>4135963One autist on /r/masseffect (and I swear it's not me, really) wrote a nice breakdown of the magnitude of Bioware's fuckups over the years.>https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/1xim57o/how_one_bioware_killed_three_biowares/There are some timeline mistakes here and there apparently, but the gist of it is unchanged. The TL;DR of it according to the author is:1. Anthem did incredible amounts of damage to Bioware's morale and schedule2. The attempt to have all 3 of their studios interface and help each other just led to them becoming more insular because nobody wanted to give up resources for a project of one of the other two3. Bioware had absolutely hilariously terrible internal communication AND elitism, leading to them developing RPG-tools for Frostbite 3 separate times because the Inquisition, Andromeda and Anthem team simply weren't sharing theirs with the others, and the Edmonton studio working on Anthem routinely either ignoring advice from the other teams or just not even telling them what they actually wanted, leading to the support staff to spent months on stuff that was then thrown out.4. Significant part of Bioware's leadership had been obsessed with wanting to take the Company to the "next step" of storytelling since at least ME1 and just generally were tired of normal RPGs, which was then also terrible for moraleAnyways, here's Miranda as an apology.
>>4143554No, he initially argues against it (and (You)) but then changes his mind and becomes a feminist ally. Yay!
>>4143619>and becomes a feministnta, it's been a while since I played Origins, but citation needed.The closest thing that I can remember is Sten calling femWarden ashkaari after she finds his sword.
>>4143616>Inquisition, Andromeda and AnthemYou have to admit, its pretty impressive that a singular company can afford the personnel and resources required to work on three different titles all at the same time and at the same time have absolutely none of them be even good enough to want to watch it on a Lets Play, much less own it. They've definitely been dead for more than a decade, what a hot trash fire.
>>4143471To be fair, that's usually enough. Gamers simply don't want to be emasculated by the politics and want enough eye candy that they can fap about it occasionally. That's it, that's the lowest of the low bars. A lot of modern games literally can't even do that, they're so far up their own ass that they don't realize that the politics make them unpleasant to look at and unpleasant to play, so there's no reason to stick around. You can excuse a lot with sexy babes and a half-decent (though not necessarily good) Hero's Journey.
>>4143627I'm most impressed by Austin team holding the fort and keeping the lights on while the rest were faffing about for the better part of a decade. Despite losing the opportunity for MEU to revive the franchise - which, to be fair, would be unlikely, considering they intended to essentially merge the wildly varying outcomes of all 3 ME3 endings into one and handwave the implications away - it might be for the best that Bioware died. Especially now that you can mod in ME3's multiplayer in the Legendary Edition.
>>4143647Those promises make me think about a violent drunkard who chases his ex screaming "Come back to me, you bitch! I changed! This time I really mean it!"
>>4143619You type like a faggot.
>>4143647>feedback for develomentIn other words>Ideas we had, then promptly dropped
>>4143647Most everything in that pic sounds awful, see >>4138055 and >>4138057
>>4143654>>4143677Pretty much. Still, it's nice to imagina that MEU would have turned out to be a decent game.>>4143679Oh, don't get me wrong, I agree with the posts you've linked (and realize that whoever wrote those posted the screenshot before me).
ENOUGH. No more stupid fingerpointing. This is the REAL reason why BioWare was shut down. Late stage capitalism. It had nothing to do with the games being "woke". Check your privileges, chuds.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUTPl-4KOawThe evil managers are behind it all, the '''wokest''' Dragon Age game (none of y'all can even define what '''woke''' is btw) was the BEST SELLING Dragon Age game ever.
>>4143697Bioware is no more because Allah wills it
>>4143647>... He's gonna start his own FrostGiant, with children, and lentils.
>>4143697>Late stageThese kinds of predictive phrases, similar with "right side of history" show how irrational Marxists are. It's really sad to be so convinced you can understand the future based on the present as seen through hindsight.
>>4143911>It's really sad to be so convinced you can understand the future based on the present as seen through hindsight.This is pot meets kettle. You looked back the lens of your current understanding of your gender to help make sense of past experiences, but it doesn’t prove that your gender explains your hardship, and your future didn't improve by "changing" your gender. If you're looking to predict the future you need to accept the immutable facts of the present and not lie to oneself. In your case it's biology, in BioWares case it's poor reception of their products leading to under-expected sales compounded by poorly managed finances.
>>4143703And Allah (swt) knows best
>>4142024>if "we" had just been allowed to do whatever "we" wantTo play Devil's advocate, you have no idea how much pressure these guys are under from their superiors to represent their factions as wokelord faggots
>>4142103>ME3 is a solid game>ME3 has fantastic shootingShe sure does, Beavis. Shooting guns in ME3 is almost as fun as shooting guns irl>k+mWtf? I'm embarrassed to admit not even I know that word. qrd?
>>4144952>actually it was the finance guys telling the gay writers to add obnoxious gay stuff to their stories, which they also did in their free time on social media, just for funFaggots will literally destroy your studio, set 500 million dollars on fire, take a shit on the floor and then blame everyone else for it.
>>4144965>qrd?Keyboard and mouse anon. And if there's anything good to say about ME3, it's the gun variety and feel.>>4144968>Faggots will literally destroy your studio, set 500 million dollars on fire, take a shit on the floor and then blame everyone else for it.Based faggots. Death to every Western studio.
>>4144965>Wtf? I'm embarrassed to admit not even I know that word. qrd?keyboard+mouse
lol, just lol if you don’t play shooters with the arrow keys + ALT to strafe
>>4144996Back in the day you would rather use the numpad with separate keys for strafe / turn
>>4145010Neither I nor anyone else I knew did that, but it does sound logical and a good setup
>>4144776You can't predict the future at all, because it's never an extrapolation of the present or the immediate needs.It's rather that an institution becomes loyal to itself and not the foundational principles it formed under. The culture of Bioware became self-referential and founded upon the pillars they felt were important and this didn't lead to having competent employees or providing well made games.
>>4144979>Death to every Western studioAnon, that's all there is. Lets not start pretending that Asians and Browns are people.
