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A blind hope, I know, but here's to wishing this one has less drama than the last.Anyway, more robas please! :D
>>4135583>Mo final bossSurprised nobody has really done anything with it, knowing how the community is. Also that we didn't get 500 colors of Zenith Martlet too
Would you include pop-culture references in your fangame? The Amogus joke wasn't recieved that well in DR, was the criticism deserved or not? Is it fine to include them as long as they fit and are funny?
Wow would you look at that, my attempt to make the thread die faster worked just like I wanted to. On serious note, please for the love of god stopping fucking up these threads with unnecessary drama, and if I sense people are doing that I'm calling it out. I think people have been quiet about it for far to long, and I refuse to let it become a problem that people ignore cause they're afraid to speak up about it.
>>4135605i will include references to what i specifically like in an attempt to get more people to interact with niche games.
>>4135605>The Amogus joke wasn't recieved that well in DRIt wasn't? I thought it was fine, it isn't like peak comedy but it's just there if you know where it's from.>>4135608Just don't mention the D word.
>>4135608>my attempt to make the thread die faster workedNo it didn't, you have to bump the threads below so they overtake it. Bumping the thread itself does nothing because it's already in autosage
>>4135597Considering it keeps happening again and again, and people pretend it's not an ongoing problem, you can bet your ass it'll happen again. It's just a matter of time.
>>4135611I wouldn't put it past that anon to have thread-slided to get the thread killed off sooner, I didn't even see it go to page 11 when normally it stays there for at least an hour before dying.
>>4135610>Just don't mention the D word.That's not the issue, these threads have ended up getting fucked up over all sorts of shit, it's been an ongoing problem.
>>4135614Considering that there were 5 threads in line ahead of ours, he absolutely thread slided and is being weird about it by acting like the image posting helped. Anyways whats done is donem>>4135598Im surprised theres no "bad time trio" type fight which would incidentally be leaving out dalv
>>4135610People called it lame and not fitting the time period (although DR is set in 202X).
>>4135614>>4135616I don't even know what thread-sliding is. Mind explaining.
I was asking about how people do battles last thread, will probably need more assistance when the time comes. I've had some ideas rattling around in my head for a Chara fight for a while, hopefully I can make them real
>>4135619I think people think DR is set in late 90s/early 20s because they still have CRT desktops in the librarby, people thought kris' phone was a regular brick phone until chapter 4 showed it was a smartphone
>>4135610Or the U word.
>>4135621bumping the threads under ours or creating new threads artificially to make ours fall off the board faster than is natural.>>4135622I'm not a designer of any sort, but as a certified player of the video games, there's a clearly different feeling between attacks designed with clear ways to dodge them, and those that don't.
>>4135621It's when you bump threads below the "target" one so the target falls faster to the bottom of the catalogue>>4135622Menus and UI are one of the most annoying parts to set up but at least once it's done adding new stuff should go faster
>>4135610I sure as hell hope you're not telling people they aren't allowed to say Drawanon, cause fuck off with that.
>>4135629The D word is drama(tic)>>4135625Don't know which this is
>>4135624Yeah, DR has both elements from Toby's childhood and modernity which can throw people off.It's like some people who think that UT fallen humans fell in the middle ages instead of between 201X and 21XX
>>4135629Don't be so agressive he proably meant Drama not drawanon
>>4135633>It's like some people who think that UT fallen humans fell in the middle ages instead of between 201X and 21XXI just think it's more fun when the green soul came from the industrial revolution
>>4135622>CharaUh, anything nore specific you have in mind for this battle?
>>4135632>Don't know which this isThe thing that sparked it
>>4135619>although DR is set in 202XWhich is funny because chapter 1 came out in 2018
>>4135636Yeah but it sadly won't be canon because Chara fell in 201X and they already had videotapes
>>4135638ohhhh, nah I don't mind people being into that. It's not the fetish it's the sick fuck who was forcing it without any consideration for anyone else.
>>4135625People can say unbirthing if they want to. We don't want to silent people or make them feel they can't talk about certain things, we're trying to avoid that. It's only a problem if it's excessive, or used in a malicious way.
>>4135627>I'm not a designer of any sort, but as a certified player of the video games, there's a clearly different feeling between attacks designed with clear ways to dodge them, and those that don't.I couldn't beat knight because of that fuck ass onion skin effect his daggers had. I'm bad at video games, but that one attack sans that with roundabout fucked me up every single time.Everyone please, make your attacks clear and patterns readable.
>>4135632>>4135638The U word is followed by N and birth, I think people should be allowed to talk about it, as long as they don't take it as far as the other guy didNow lets drop this subject right here right now because its retarded thread drama, someone posted some new dev progress
>>4135644*but that one roundabout attackI can't fucking focus on typing.
>>4135644>Everyone please, make your attacks clear and patterns readable.But that takes time and playtesters :(Its much easier to throw shit at the wall and test the attacks yourself until they become easy, that never brings any problems
>>4135641>Chara fell in 201X and they already had videotapesI know but>sadly won't be canonI'm not against just ignoring canon to play with a fun idea concept for writing. I know some people hate that and so I accept my ridicule like the last time I brought this up.>>4135644>Everyone please, make your attacks clear and patterns readable.this is extremely important for sure. I get that some people think "my visually confusing attack will be a treat!" but chances are in MOST scenarios, it will just be frustrating as the player can't really grasp the why of how he got hit.
>>4135639Yeah, because Toby knew in advance that he wouldn't be able to make all 5 or 7 chapters in 2 years....Bet Toby didn't expect that it would take *that* long for him to make it. I remember him saying that he doesn't want to work on DR for 7 years
>>4135634I'm sorry for the aggression on my part, but after how long we've had problems be ignored for years here, I just can't stay silent as a bystander anymore watching things get worse.
>>4135637I want to have attacks that make reference to their suicidal nature, along with themes of humanity's struggle with peace. A lot of it is inspired by the motifs of The Shining. I also want to include a phase against the creature they become when absorbed by Asriel. I don't like how safe a lot of interpretations play it, I want to make something a lot edgier.The sprite is temporary, of course =)
>>4135650>writingI guess it would be okay. But it will really harm the reach of it, if it was a fangame. If it cannot be canon compliant it would have to be viewed by itself, since it would be incompatible with others. Fics don't really have to care about that.
DRY1anon, I think you should give Gamejolt anon something to post on the gamejolt, like a single screenshot or a webm just so the public knows DRY1 is still going strong
>>4135658Nta, but you can use the racing or the basketball vid?
>>4135655Alright that sounds pretty interesting actually, I played the "No More Dealsx Chara fan battle, and while I had fun dodging the attacks (even when the difficulty is insane) most of the attacks consisted only of knives, there were a few more unique ones but in general felt like a step down from the Sans fight.
>>4135657Yeah that's honestly fair. Fics get a lot of leeway for nonsense already, and reachwise I don't operate under the assumption that all that many people are reading my stuff ;-; so it's just for the fun of it and those that do take the time to read.I can imaging if it was a game, even I would be raising an eyebrow at the inconsistencies and second guessing it.
>>4135658I'm not Gamejolt anon, I guess he could use the basketball one, I think the racing vid shouldn't be posted even if it makes for pretty good marketing, posting it would ruin the surprise for those waiting for the update outside of here
>>4135655How much edgier? I know suicide is pretty dark, but there is curve to it too. Like one is just a loose that is obviously hanging yourself, but makeshift atttempts can be very fucking horrific.
>>4135663You could always make a fallen kid escaped amish or something
>>4135666hmm, well satan that's true I could. For the green soul though I do like the idea that he had gotten away from a life of industrial era child labor, but the idea of one of the kids being amish, or ex amish is pretty funny in a way.
>>4135665I don't want to promise anything I can't fulfill, but I'd like it to be a couple steps above the Halloween Hack. I want to shock the player but in a way that feels "like Chara", instead of just being distasteful.
>>4135670What do you mean "feel like chara". She is bararely a character in undertale and if anything there just correlations that player, or more so fandom, assumes. Like we could very well be talking about generic yandere girl.
>>4135675There's a lot of lines especially toward the end of the Pacifist route that flesh them out a lot, and the humans' world tooI don't want to make another 'yandere girl Chara' if that's your concern.
>>4135691NTA but aren't those lines from flowey?Either way I agree there's at least some characterizing stuff to work off of. I think someone did a comparison to show that chara speaks in some ways like toriel?
>>4135693>aren't those lines from flowey?Asriel, yeah. I just think they're interesting.>chara speaks in some ways like toriel?They have similar mannerisms but occassionally use contractions like "couldn't" and "we'll"
>>4135695Another proof that Chara is female
Ten Feet twenty the Skeletonwank man.
>>4135695Toriel also occassionally uses contractions, so it's basically the exact same speech quirk
>>4135695>They have similar mannerisms but occassionally use contractions like "couldn't" and "we'll"it's always made me think that Chara has a certain "politeness" even when it's at the end of genocide.Formal, I think is the word I'm looking for
o DRYanon where art thoui crave more updates...
>>4135704WHY DID YOUPOST A PICTUREOF ME?
I'm actually writing a fanfic this time, guys! Turns out it's hard, especially for ESL like me.
>>4135704I think he posted yesterday or the day before about his progress and things possibly taking until the beginning of next year, and that he's working on events. also it's always really funny to me seeing the people from the dry reddit get so secretive about how they're lurking to get DRY leaks.it's amusing watching how the simple act of going on 4chan is so intimidating to many >>4135709Unfathomably based anon. I hope that you'll share it with us when the writing is accomplished.
>>4135707WHYNOTI HAVEMANY DEVICE_FRIENDSTO POSTON THE INTERNETS.
>>4135714YOU ARE VERYVERY HOMOSEXUALLIKE YOUR FAILED TIMELINE"UNDERTALE"WHILE YOU WING YOUR DINGI AM BUILDING A NEWFUTURE WITH (YOU)NOT MUCH LONGER NOWMY DELTA RUNE
>>4135721OHYEAH?PARRYTHISRETARD
would a "all of you look the same" type joke be a bit too spicy for UTDR?
>>4135722I WILL SHOVEMY (Egg recieved.) SO FARUP YOUR GASTERYOU WILLSING Toby "Radiation" Fox (the creator of Undertale!)TLDR EAT SHITFAGGOTS
>>4135725People here wouldnt probably make a big deal of it but to warn you that the wider fanbase would absolutely flip their shit over something like that
>>4135725It would be a little bland
>>4135598Once I imagined geno Clover pushing Mo into the coolant lake, and he would come back more powerful as Mo NEO as a joke.
>>4135749>Mo Neo>The zenith of not paying your taxes...kind
>>4135605Pop culture references is very infused into the DNA of UTDR and also a very big part of the artistic ethos for nerdy millennial creators like Toby. Not saying it's immune to criticism but it is what it is.But coming to think about it, there are barely any references to pop franchises in my writing. What I found was:>a joke vaguely alluding to Nosferatu that I might not even include>two characters who are references to Nintendo gamesBut otherwise it's just references to UTDR itself or to science, history, folklore or whatever.
>>4135752The Smooth Taste of Coffee Break
>>4135757alright, now I want to see a fully produced joke of such a mo fight. Him starting a transformation, only to kick it to the side because that's not the transformation you want, nah the main man mo has got you COVERED.
>>4135756>NosferatuNever heard of it, what's it about?
>>4135709Ey, glad to hear it.Don't worry too hard about being ESL, what matters is the meaning behind your words, and the spirit they carry.
>>4135760Dracula rip-off from way back in the day.Commonly known today as that guy flickering the lights in that one episode of Spongebob.
>>4135760oh come on, it shouldn't be that obscurehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykxcdp6-2kE
>>4135761Gerson...
>>4135709Same.I feel like a hypocrite for making fun of Toby being a weeb but not writing my stuff in my native language.
>>4135749And then he doesn't transform and dissolves in agonyNow Clover knows how it feels to watch it happen, in the previous timeline Roba was the one who pushed him in there
>>4135764Okay yeah I guess I walked into that one, but you get the gist.It doesn't matter if some words here and there aren't quite right, if the message they're supposed to carry is intact.
>>4135709>>4135767From my experience, I would recommend writing your story in your native language and then translating it to English, you can use the translation process as an opportunity to edit your writing too.
>>4135591ceroba is fat
>>4135799*flat
>>4135802by god, that's hot.
it doesn't matter what size my wife's breasts are, she's hot and I love her
>>4135802nope
>>4135817Yes.
>>4135815I can never find that manga page about loving all breast sizes when this conversation comes up.
>>4135820wrong
>>4135823Right.
>>4135828agree to disagree
Both options are pretty good.
I saw someone in the previous thread say "quetzali gadsden" in reply to one of those shitpost flags I made, so I made this instead of taking my migraine medication when I should've.Alright, later.
>>4135841Nice. Look at her shit eating grin. She's a dork and loving it. Sorry to hear about the migraine.
>>4135841flags to pwn jandroids>someonethat was methanks
>>4135841Pretty cool, I can see this getting use in the future.
>>4135837
I bring to you a very lazily done coloring of that Quetzali/Anon constriction thing I did however long ago as I procrastinate doing my engineering work.Sidenote, d'ya know Quetzali's overworld sprite uses the same color for her hair and her eyes, while her sprite in her shop gives her eyes a distinct color? I have to imagine that's not just some kind of oversight but I still found that interesting.Alright, bye for now again.
>>4135946Cute, I like the heart being orange.also>black tongueI think this is hot? I'm pretty sure that it's hot.
>>4135947She has a black tongue in her sprites.It also occurs to me now that I forgot the little stripe in her hair, I'll fix that later.
>>4135948honest to god never noticed it in the sprites themselves. I may be stupid.
>>4135946Oh nice, you colored it, I still regret not telling you to color it when you first posted the sketch.>Quetzali's overworld sprite uses the same color for her hair and her eyes, while her sprite in her shop gives her eyes a distinct colorI try to limit the colors I use for the overworld sprites, I didn't give myself this limitation with her shop sprites since those are more detailed.
>>4135957>Oh nice, you colored it, I still regret not telling you to color it when you first posted the sketch.It's fine.>I try to limit the colors I use for the overworld sprites, I didn't give myself this limitation with her shop sprites since those are more detailed.Understandable.Also, I like her hair being a bit spikier in that sprite you posted here. I drew her hair being more like that both times I drew her, but I guess those are retroactively more accurate now, if this sprite is something to go off of.
We're back.
So I've started playing UTY for the first time (basically completely unspoiled), and as requested, I'll share my first impression:>Great sprite work and music; Clover is cute, and that sprint animation is smooth as heck>Flowey as a talking savepoint and a sort of companion character is a pretty inspired choice and very cool. I wonder how the story will use him>Writing seems a bit ESL; loads of awkward and stilted phrasing, and not particularly funny so far>Dalv was very boring, and I was kind of annoyed by his clumsy vague postingI'm going for pacifist, so I'm avoiding gaining any exp. Does it work like UT, where it forces the neutral ending at first, then you just reload for true pacifist? I'd like to avoid any unnecessary replaying, but it would be nice to experience the neutral ending as well before potentially going for genocideOverall, I think my expectations might have been a tad too high for a fangame.
>>4135989>Overall, I think my expectations might have been a tad too high for a fangame.Welcome to the club.
>>4135989>Does it work like UT, where it forces the neutral ending at first, then you just reload for true pacifist?no, you'll want to make a back up of your save in one of the later parts, I think towards the end of the steamworks I'm pretty sure >Overall, I think my expectations might have been a tad too high for a fangame.It picks up significantly pretty soon. it's pretty commonly agreed that the dunes/wild east is where the game really increases in quality.
>>4135989>Does it work like UT, where it forces the neutral ending at first, then you just reload for true pacifist?No, it doesn't. Neutral ending is its own branch and the game erases your save at the end of it. It's very, very, very much worth playing and I would recommend you do it first. Also, just a heads up, there's a choice at the end of the pacifist route and the game also erases your save after making that choice, so you might want to back up your save before fighting the final boss so you don't have to play through the full pacifist route twice to see both results of that choice.>Overall, I think my expectations might have been a tad too high for a fangame.For what it's worth the Dark Ruins are the worst part of the game due to being made in 2016 and never getting rewritten. I think the game steadily improves as it goes on, though I don't want to set your expectations too high by saying that.
24 hours without robaposts in the thread... think about what that does to a sensitive and yearning young man
>>4136008Well, I guess we can spare an image limit just for one Roba...
>>4136011my oh my, now THAT is a saucy Roba.
I got to see some cute dalvkeeper stuff while 4chan was shitting and farding
>>4136021Are you willing to share? I find myself highly interested.
>>4136025You should know where to look, it was up while the internet blew up
>>4136025I saw two drawings of them in the noz
that guy also likes dalvkeeper? awesome sauce
>>4136029Noz, gotcha. Not sure why the other guy was being cagey about it then. Made me think e6 at first where I found bero putting honey on her nipple. Anyways thanks.
>>4135989>>Writing seems a bit ESLThis is a first time seeing this complaint, the other stuff about the game not being very funny is more common, the dark ruins is of lower quality compared to the rest of the game, the devs wrote it when they were still kids.>Does it work like UT, where it forces the neutral ending at first, then you just reload for true pacifist?No, you can do any route in any order, if you want to do neutral the best recommendation I can give you is Once you reach the boss fight of the fourth area, reload a save, make a backup of your save file, then kill a random enemy, that will be enough to put you in the neutral path, once you are done with it restore your save file from the back up>I think my expectations might have been a tad too high for a fangame.There are some fan games with pretty high production "value" like TS!Underswap, I love UTY but you can notice how the devs didn't do any reworks to the first parts of the game.
>>4136011I'll be honest, I find her more attractive in modest clothing
>>4136037how's penilla doing dalv
>>4136032Looks like multipleThere was also a roba and a val
>>4135989to see most of the unique neutral content you want to kill the wild east boss, most of the unique neutral content is after himso just back up a save before you do that, then after finishing neutral use that save to do pacifist
The drawanon posted this fixed Quetzali drawing in the other place, spot the difference.
>>4136057of fucking course I forget to upload the image
>>4136057I just gave her her hair stripe.
>>4136059
>>4136059I want to rub my face against her.
>>4136059Thanks for posting it here though, I was out for a while.Speaking of which, I also have a new green which I'll post in just a sec.
>>4136081Fluffy side or scaly side? I feel like the latter would feel weird
>you awake, suddenly, consciousness returning as if it were a cold bucket of water being splashed over you>your mind spins for but a moment, as you make sense of your dark surroundings>of course, you're in bed still, just woken up in the middle of the night>realizing this, you decide you might get out of bed for a moment, to grab a glass of water or something->only for your body to remain completely still, despite your commands>a mild feeling of panic sets in, as you realize your current situation>you try and calm yourself, reassuring yourself that it's just sleep paralysis, and that it should pass soon enough, as your eyes adjust to the darkness of the bedroom around you, familiar sights providing some small comfort as they become visible >until you see something a bit less familiar>in the corner of the room, something seems noticeably darker than even the surrounding darkness>your eyes fixate on it, but the shape refuses to become more detailed, refusing any identification as something that should be there at all>unmistakably alien, it slowly dawns on you that what little of its shape you can make out, fits that of a tall, thin person>there's someone in your room>and you can't move>a wave of dread washes over you, at this realization of not being alone in such a vulnerable position>your heart beats faster in your chest, as you start to breath more harshly, the only ways your body allows you to respond at all>you try and put it out of your mind, try and convince yourself it's just some trick of the light, some dark shadow cast by something else, a chair, a coatrack, just something your mind is conjuring up out of nothing>until it starts to move>away from the corner>and to the foot of your bed>directly facing you>you start to hyperventilate, as you scream inside your mind for your body to allow you to do something, anything, even just to scream out in the face of this shadowy intruder, something to pierce the crushing silence of the night
>>4136086>the figure begins to lean forward towards you, the floorboards creaking as its weight shifts, as you see it extend a dark, mangled hand, directly towards your face, while its own remains obscured by shadow>you hear the creature let out a low, quiet laugh, as it's mere inches away from having you in its grasp>your heart skips a beat, as you hear the sound of your bedroom door opening>you manage to fight through your body's paralysis enough to just barely turn your head to the room's exit, to see the source of the noise>you see your wife, Luzma, floating in the doorway, her massive, shocked eye staring at the dark figure looming over you, before she makes eye contact with you, seeing the frozen horror displayed on your face>her gaze darts back to the figure, before she suddenly dashes forwards, punching the intruder out through the open window opposite the door, with a muffled *thud* audible from outside>she flies through the window after the creature, and you hear several hard strikes, and the occasional whoosh of firey projectiles, punctuated by a sudden scream that seems to get quieter, as if fading rapidly into the distance>then, silence>you eye the window for a time, wondering what happened, before Luzma slowly floats back into the bedroom, closing and locking the window behind her, before drawing the blinds>"Damn sleep-paralysis monsters..." she grumbles, as she finishes messing with the window>she turns her attention back to you, floating over to the bed, and bringing her warm hand to caress your still frozen face, noting your still rapid and uneven breaths"Aw, scared, Anon?" she asks, obviously knowing you can't answer>"Don't worry, I took care of it just fine, kehehe~", she laughs, taking amusement in how she disposed of the monster haunting you>she lifts the blanket off of you, slowly settling into bed herself, before pulling you into her embrace, resting your head on her chest
>>4136086inb4 it's ceroba and she just wants to cuddle
>>4136087>she then pulls the blanket back over the two of you, but keeps you wrapped in the security of her warm, strong arms, gently rubbing your chest in circles>"Nothing's gonna lay a finger on you as long as I'm around, Anon.", she says, holding you just a bit tighter, her strength grounding you, and quickly dispelling any fear and unease left in your mind>you feel her warmth radiating through you, as your breathing evens out, and you feel your eyelids start to become heavy again>slowly, gently, you drift back into sleep, knowing nothing can possibly hurt you as you're held in the loving embrace of your wifeI wrote this at like 4:00 am last night and did not proofread or edit it even slightly.Anyway-
>>4136088DAMMIT I SENT IT TOO LATE
>>4135989Which version are you playing?
>>4136090Dummy.
>>4136092I'm Ceroba's dummy so it's okay
Anyone know how to make a google doc 100% anonymous for both its author and its viewers (or some anonymous alternative)? I wanted to work on and showcase a written concept for a fangame I sadly don't have the skills or lack of spergery possible to actually turn it into a real one and I want to keep everyone's anonymity
>>4136096Just make it a rentry with catbox links for images.
>>4136085Both but primarily the fluffy side. I'm not averse to rubbing my face against hers.>>4136086>>4136087>>4136089Cute.>TFW no strong wisp woman
>>4136086>>4136087>>4136089For a second I thought this would be about Quetzali, seeing Luzma was a pleasant surprise, the ending was pretty wholesome, now I feel jealous of that anon.
>>4136097Sounds like a plan. Since it's just written concepts I don't have images but this is useful information in the event I ever do get some. Not likely, as I'm terrible at making art whatsoever, but you never know.And yes, most of this stuff came from fever dreams I had, like all good ideas and inspirations for passion projects.
>>4136101same lol I thought it was just going to be a twist gag of "oh whoops Anon, I accidentally coiled around you too tightly haha"
>>4136102>Sounds like a plan. Since it's just written concepts I don't have images but this is useful information in the event I ever do get some. Not likely, as I'm terrible at making art whatsoever, but you never know.Oh, yeah, rentry'll do you just fine then.>And yes, most of this stuff came from fever dreams I hadIs that you, Toby?
>>4136096Silly suggestion, but you could just save it as a .docx and then put the file in a zip and catbox it.
>>4136101Yeah, I've had Luzma on the mind a lot lately.I still like the idea of her looking at the sleep paralysis monster like [picrel], her gaze briefly shifting to meet yours, shortly before beating the shit out of the monster. She's nice.
>>4136106I had that imagine in my mind while reading that part.
>>4136108Good.She has a very nice face.
>>4136089Really cute stuff>>4136098>you'll never use Luzma's breasts as a pillow
>>4136114>Really cute stuffThank you, I'm glad people seemed to like it.
I've had perhaps another idea for a short Luzma/Anon thing, of Luzma being sleepy and refusing to let go of Anon in the morning, because the concept of CNC cuddling with her has somehow embedded itself in my brain.God she's so good.
>>4136120>CNC cuddlingI know what CNC means, but I can't tell if that's more or less wholesome than regular cuddling, in any case that sounds real good,
>>4136120love that sprite of hers there. She's a fucking goober.>I've had perhaps another idea for a short Luzma/Anon thing, of Luzma being sleepy and refusing to let go of Anon in the morningBeing late to something because Luzma didn't want to get up!
>>4136122>but I can't tell if that's more or less wholesome than regular cuddlingUh, depends?I guess it depends on just how much you don't want to be forced to cuddle with her. Which, honestly, I can't imagine not wanting to, so perhaps this concept is something of a non-starter, but the idea is cute so I don't care.>in any case that sounds real good,Hell yeah.Actually, fuck it, I'll try and write it later tonight, when I am appropriately tired and desiring such things.
>>4136124>love that sprite of hers there. She's a fucking goober.She's so cute, god.>Being late to something because Luzma didn't want to get up!Something like that, yeah.Except perhaps more accurately that she doesn't want *you* to get up.You're snuggling whether you like it or not.
>>4136120>CNC cuddlingComputer numerical control cuddling?
>>4136134>t. engineer who just discovered the fillet command in CAD
>>4136128>I can't imagine not wanting to,Maybe its a hot day, but lets ignore that possibility, perhaps its opposite, a pretty cold or rainy day outside and she uses that as an excuse to keep you in bed.>I'll try and write it later tonight, when I am appropriately tired and desiring such things.Nice.
Cooking some wild shit in the rentry doc, I have to reformat a bunch of things since I'm working off an older draft prior to discussing it with a fellow anon. It might take me a day or two.
>>4136142>It might take me a day or two.Damn, is it that long? I'll make sure to check it out once it releases.
Here’s some more art, starting to get a little bit worried the more………… out there tendencies of the JP audience may spook some of the Western UTY fans and cause them to overreact about something.
>>4136143It's essentially turning a series of dreams into a cohesive blueprint for what is essentially the plot for an entire hypothetical Undertale fangame.
>>4136145Sounds cool.>hypothetical Undertale fangame.Hey, if you can finish your design doc your game will be less hypothetical than Undertale Futility.
>>4136141>Maybe its a hot day, but lets ignore that possibility, perhaps its opposite, a pretty cold or rainy day outside and she uses that as an excuse to keep you in bed.Hm. I know this isn't what you said, but I like the idea of her briefly looking out the window and seeing that it's raining, and using that as an excuse to keep you with her, but in an obviously bullshit way."Mmm... no, you'll freeze to death.", she says, before she buries your face in her chest, keeping you warm and safe from the mildly cool temperatures outside. Hm.
>>4136144definitely seen enough cases of that western community witch hunting before. Also that guys Martlet is cute.>>4136129>She's so cute, god.you're damn right.>You're snuggling whether you like it or not.she doesn't realize that I'm not trapped in bed with her, she's trapped in be-maybe that doesn't work.
>>4136148Haha, I'll be counting on the anons here to help critique it so I can refine it to an acceptable standard.
I want to see more thoughts and ideas from the guy making that green take.
>>4136144>starting to get a little bit worried the more………… out there tendencies of the JP audienceYou mean the implications that that artist has with Clover x Martlet? He always makes her really cute, but the ring she has on her wing and the dialogue about Clover can be misinterpreted, unless that was the artist's intention.
>>4136154>but the ring she has on her wing and the dialogue about Clover can be misinterpreted, unless that was the artist's intention.nta but it's very possible that's the intention. Most of the japanese art community hasn't been infected by the whole "you aren't allowed to draw problematic ideas" worm.
>>4136153What does the image have to do with that?
>>4136156isn't he the artist for it?
>>4136155I don't mind that art but it does feel strange to see when the rest of the fandom always gives Martlet an older sister o mom dynamic with Clover, but I guess those dynamics only make her more susceptible to that kind of art by the japanese fans.
>>4136159It honestly feels tame compared to some of the stuff the fandom was getting up to when UT itself first came out.But yeah I'd say that all makes it more likely some of them would depict her that way. I think I saw that "mine mine mine" image of martlet before I even playted UTY so I know the fans over here were getting up to some of the same stuff at times.
>>4136162I know western fans are into it too, but like you said, this kind of art is frowned upon in the wider fandom, if that weren't the case we would see more of it like in the early days of the Undertale fandom.
>>4136154>You mean the implications that that artist has with Clover x Martlet?That’s one example, I’ve seen (and enjoyed) worse and more strange from jap artists before, I feel that if that happens too soon they may start a witch hunt and drive away some of the best up and common jap artists.
>>4136153It's a shame Racter died of Luzmaluzma nuts
>>4136163In general the fandom has gotten a lot more aggressive about art to the point it's had multiple phases of cannibalizing itself. Got people making docs and then counter docs all because someone ships something. So indeed, hopefully that artist flies under the fandoms radar. Or hopefully they have the gumption to just ignore western fans when they act out. That's usually the best option.
>>4136167That was dumb anon but actually I laughed
>>4136151>you're damn right.Hm, I almost wonder if she might take some kind of offense to being called cute like that. I'm not sure I see her as the kind to get flustered in a typical sense, but the idea of being called cute catching her off guard is, well.>she doesn't realize that I'm not trapped in bed with her, she's trapped in be->maybe that doesn't work.Hm, maybe not. Still, fun idea.
>>4136150>she says, before she buries your face in her chest, keeping you warm and safe from the mildly cool temperatures outside.This is already starting to sound great.
>>4136177>Hm, I almost wonder if she might take some kind of offense to being called cute like that. I'm not sure I see her as the kind to get flustered in a typical sense, but the idea of being called cute catching her off guard is, well.I wonder about that. She's luzma but she's still a girl right?Like say she went on a date and dressed up really nicely. If someone with a grudge came up and splashed wine on her dress, I know she'd be insulted and probably kick their ass, but would she also be hurt by being made a fool of or being insulted like that while on a date with someone she liked? Would there be a part of her that's hurt in a feminine way over this?Probably sounds weird.
>>4136179Yeah, I'll probably work that in somehow.
>>4136182Hm. Eh, maybe?I'm not 100% sure I see her as the kind to be super feminine and wear a dress like that to begin with, but maybe.
>>4136185>I'm not 100% sure I see her as the kind to be super feminine and wear a dress like that to begin with, but maybe.but like if she was going to a fancy dinner like in that one green? She probably doesn't wear stuff like that around but if she does go through the trouble of making her self look less combat, would that affect her or would just just tear the dress off (revealing the armor underneath)? I imagine she'd still but unhappy about the date getting interrupted unless it lead to her and her date kicking ass as a group activity.
>>4136186>but like if she was going to a fancy dinner like in that one green?Yeah no, I get that, I'm just saying I'm not sure I see it for her. I'm not an authority on her or anything, I just like her, you'd have to ask Naranjadev for anything concrete.>She probably doesn't wear stuff like that around but if she does go through the trouble of making her self look less combat, would that affect her or would just just tear the dress off (revealing the armor underneath)?Maybe she'd have to wear specialized fabrics that can withstand her hotter temperatures, and she could just evaporate whatever liquid got spilled on her. I dunno.>I imagine she'd still but unhappy about the date getting interrupted unless it lead to her and her date kicking ass as a group activity.Oh yeah, certainly, but that's less to do with her being a woman and more to do with just taking offense to obviously offending acts. Anyone would get mad about something like that, of course.
>>4136187>Yeah no, I get that, I'm just saying I'm not sure I see it for her. I'm not an authority on her or anything, I just like her, you'd have to ask Naranjadev for anything concrete.that's fair.>Maybe she'd have to wear specialized fabrics that can withstand her hotter temperatures, and she could just evaporate whatever liquid got spilled on her. I dunno.well, that WOULD be convenient, and fitting of monsterkind I feel like.>Oh yeah, certainly, but that's less to do with her being a woman and more to do with just taking offense to obviously offending acts. Anyone would get mad about something like that, of course.it definitely makes sense, I just wonder if any of her feminine side would come out. Maybe she'd just be bummed out is all.She's a strong and spirited character so I don't see her becoming a sobbing mess because prom night was ruined, but sometimes that strength shows it's feminine side? Maybe a sigh afterwards as she tells you that she was really hoping this would be a nice night or something like that.
>>4136190>well, that WOULD be convenient, and fitting of monsterkind I feel like.Yeah, they've got weird stuff like that.Like the bed that turns into an easy to draw cube when not in use, very convenient technologies at their disposal.>it definitely makes sense, I just wonder if any of her feminine side would come out. Maybe she'd just be bummed out is all.Eh, I dunno. I'm not really a fan of describing her as having some kind of stereotypical "feminine side", as if she can't just be a woman and be how she is without her secretly being some super girly girl under specific circumstances. I just like her to be how she is.>Maybe a sigh afterwards as she tells you that she was really hoping this would be a nice night or something like that.Yeah, that feels more fitting. I could definitely see her getting a bit down from it, but nothing too crazy.
I’ve been working on a draft for a Deltatreveler style scenario where the team ends up in FF5, I’ve finally finished writing down the draft of what I had mapped out on my head, it’s nothing I’m ever adapting into a game or a fic or an animation I’m mostly doing this for fun and genuine interest, the scenario will start at the ship graveyard and end in the walse tower in the shrine of the water crystal.Scenario starts in the ship graveyard, team wonders where they are and are disconcerted by the creepy scenery and strange creatures but press on.On the way to the safe room, they’ll be constantly harassed by the aggressive undead creatures, characters will express being creeped out and disconcerted by the grotesque and off putting skeletons, undead husks, carcursers, and psychoheads.Enemies will be relentless and mindless, they will give no chance for mercy.The extremely aggressive enemies will force the party to FIGHT or FLEE but will block the path on numerous occasions forcing a scenario in which FIGHTing is inevitable.Once the gang makes it to the safe room they will stop for rest, Noelle and Susie will voice their grievances about the current situation but ultimately accept that they MUST fight and destroy the enemies for survival.While resting in the safe room the heroes have a moment of introspection where they discuss their current circumstances and reassure each other.The party continues their harrowing journey across the more treacherous half of the ship graveyard, destroying all the feral undead that get in their way.Finally the party makes it to the end of the area where they will come face to face with Siren who will prove a true challenge before they can finally escape with their lives.1/2
>>4136192>Eh, I dunno. I'm not really a fan of describing her as having some kind of stereotypical "feminine side", as if she can't just be a woman and be how she is without her secretly being some super girly girl under specific circumstances.ah I don't mean it like that. I mean like how Ellen Ripley is a strong willed badass character, who still gives off a special vibe that, if you changed the character to a man would negatively impact the story being told. Though I don't think they have the same personality by any stretch of the imagination. I don't think her being super girly about it would be fitting at all. More like, Something that would be important to a girl being important to her, and her reacting in a way that would be fitting for her, rather than becoming overtly feminine about it.>Yeah, that feels more fitting. I could definitely see her getting a bit down from it, but nothing too crazy.hmm, seeing that sprite is saddening. I don't want Luzma to be sad.
>>4136196When they make it to Siren’s lair the heroes will be beset by apparitions of their loved ones to ensnare them in Siren’s trap.Noelle will see a vision of Rudy/Dess (I’m a bit undecided on who would be more interesting, what do you fellas think) and will be easily entranced, before having her SOUL ensnared.Susie will see a vision of Toriel (I admit this one may not be the best emotional lure, but I thought that even after ch3 she was good enough, tell me if you thing there is a better option, maybe Ralsei?) which will also lure her in, she will hesitate and resist a bit but will ultimately give in and have her SOUL ensnared as well.Kris will see a vision of Asriel, and will carefully and hesitantly approach, they will resist but will ultimately require the player to interfere with their influence in order to fully resist and reject the vision.After resisting the lure, Kris will wake up their companions before Siren finally reveals herself expressing anger and confusion as to why the snare did not work on Kris, after waking up their allies Kris and the rest will rally and confront Siren in the first boss fight.Siren will be a fight around the same difficulty level as Jevil and will have her original gimmick of turning undead and gaining a massive physical resistance boost, but also becoming vulnerable to healing (Susie’s healing will come in handy).After the battle the party will express some apprehension and fear over what they saw and experienced, but will ultimately steel their resolve and move forward, finally escaping from the ship graveyard.PART1 END.I have some interesting ideas about where this scenario could go in the next part, but I would like to hear some opinions about what I have mapped out here, and of course if there is any interest in this scenario in general.2/2
>>4136196>>4136198Huh, It's pretty cool to see those FF related discussions come to this. I think you'd have a hard time with players in this games community being stubborn about avoiding fight. you'd probably need a BIG UNSKIPPABLE DISCLAIMER at the start saying "some fights must be fought."
>>4136197>I mean like how Ellen Ripley is a strong willed badass character, who still gives off a special vibe that, if you changed the character to a man would negatively impact the story being told.If I remember correctly, there was some bit about how they wrote her character, and it was "we wrote her like we'd write a man, and then made her a woman". Whether or not that's apocryphal, I think that's actually decent advice for writing female characters, since I've seen a ton of female characters written as women first, and people second, if at all. >Something that would be important to a girl being important to herI guess? That still just feels like a weird sort of statement, since at that rate, wouldn't it just be about what's important to anyone? Pretty sure most guys would be pissed if someone came up and splashed wine all over their suit while on a date with someone they like. Kinda just seems universal at that point, gender division isn't really an important factor here in my opinion.>hmm, seeing that sprite is saddening. I don't want Luzma to be sad.Yeah, her facesprites are pretty well done, they convey a lot of emotion really effectively. Naranjadev should be proud of himself, he did good work.Alright, that's enough of me sucking him off for one night, sorry.
>>4136199If I were to actually make a game about this, I would probably add a bunch of diegetic hints to clue in the player that it’s inevitable, and this is about survival, there will probably be some resistance but a direct out of universe disclaimer would probably be my last resort.
>>4136200>If I remember correctly, there was some bit about how they wrote her character, and it was "we wrote her like we'd write a man, and then made her a woman". Whether or not that's apocryphal, I think that's actually decent advice for writing female characters,it's really solid advice, though I think it ultimately created something that was irreversible as in, they couldn't take the character "written as a man first" and replace it with a man and have the same movie. but that may just be the talent of the actress doing a memorable job to be fair.>since I've seen a ton of female characters written as women first, and people second, if at all. Honestly a scathing but deserved review of how a lot of things are written.>I guess? That still just feels like a weird sort of statement, since at that rate, wouldn't it just be about what's important to anyone? Pretty sure most guys would be pissed if someone came up and splashed wine all over their suit while on a date with someone they like. Kinda just seems universal at that point, gender division isn't really an important factor here in my opinion.maybe I'm just barking up the wrong tree here. I imagine her dressing up for once and feeling like "you know, I'd never trade my armor for this, but I look hot in this dress." and having a certain sadness when that's sullied. Like maybe she was having a bit of fun being hot lol on her date and seeing her dates be unable to take his eyes off her, and even kicking the persons ass doesn't cheer her up all the way.I don't know I'll leave it be but I'm not aiming for "girly luzma"
>>4136202that's fair. I don't think your idea is bad, but you WILL have some people that would just get stuck. Just one of those things you have to deal with in how set in the "pacifist is the only route" mindset people are in the fandom.
>>4136207If by some miracle this idea were to be made into a reality and I had full creative control, I would just let them figure out and if after my countermeasure they just don’t get it and complain, I’d just say “let them complain” they will get it eventually (or they won’t).
>>4136206>though I think it ultimately created something that was irreversible as in, they couldn't take the character "written as a man first" and replace it with a man and have the same movie. but that may just be the talent of the actress doing a memorable job to be fair.Yeah, but also, it's because we got the version of the movie with Ellen as a woman. It's what you know. Of course it'd feel different if she was a guy, that's how differences in general work.Maybe there's another universe out there where Alien has a male lead instead, and the idea of him being a woman is completely unthinkable to them. You get it.>I imagine her dressing up for once and feeling like "you know, I'd never trade my armor for this, but I look hot in this dress."Aye, fair enough. Give me a second here, wanna try something.>and having a certain sadness when that's sullied. Like maybe she was having a bit of fun being hot lol on her date and seeing her dates be unable to take his eyes off her, and even kicking the persons ass doesn't cheer her up all the way.>I don't know I'll leave it be but I'm not aiming for "girly luzma"I think I get the idea, I'm just not sure you communicated it so well at first.Still not sure I see something like that really messing with her too bad, but eh.I think it's kinda like the issue with the disconnect between Meryl in MGS1 and MGS4, sorta.
>>4136213fair stance, if you know what you're getting into then yeah I mean it's an interesting idea at least.
>>4136214>You get it.yeah, I mean you're right, I do get it. I don't know if it's true in this situation since Alien is all of its parts combined, but your point stands.also Sigourney Weaver is/was hot on a spiritual level.>Aye, fair enough.Give me a second here, wanna try something.you have my attention>I think I get the idea, I'm just not sure you communicated it so well at first.maybe so>Still not sure I see something like that really messing with her too bad, but eh.and maybe not, but maybe also being told she still looks hot continued lol would make her feel just a little less bothered by it even.>I think it's kinda like the issue with the disconnect between Meryl in MGS1 and MGS4, sorta.Meryl is a tough one for me. I feel like she has more feminity in 4 in an awkward way at times despite being bulked up. I don't know, I enjoyed 4 despite it being well, 4, but it was an odd bag of stuff.
>>4133091Getting expelled from contamination could work. It'd even allow me to saddle the player character with human companions off the bat but I think that'd throw the balance. >>4133114A lottery of some sort is an easy way., but I think that still runs into the issue of figuring why a youth got stuck on the "certain death" list and not just outright punished.>>4133200Harold's a neat character as a wizened old-timer who foreshadows a lot of the major conflict in the game. However I don't see the amalgamates existing within this and the closest thing to them wouldn't have one of them living amongst monster society like Harold was in the Hub.Any way, I've been toying around with making perks to take when LVLing up. Now, as Level of VioLence™ is a purely hostile expression, all the perks would likewise further the protagonists ability to kill and harm. However I worry that giving the additional bonuses alongside increasing stats, not to mention companions, would make them a bit too dangerous, and I'd have a very uncomfortable gap between monsters and creatures against the true story enemies.
>>4136220>However I worry that giving the additional bonuses alongside increasing stats, not to mention companions, would make them a bit too dangerous,Why is that a problem? Part of the point of the Genocide route in Undertale is that you become too overpowered to the point the game's story breaks.>true story enemies.Oh?
>>4136219>yeah, I mean you're right, I do get it. I don't know if it's true in this situation since Alien is all of its parts combined, but your point stands.Mm, good enough.>also Sigourney Weaver is/was hot on a spiritual level.Fair.>you have my attentionUh, hope you weren't expecting much.Can you tell I'm not a sprite artist?I dunno, maybe I'd do a better job drawing it than kitbashing a sprite for it. Maybe later.>and maybe not, but maybe also being told she still looks hot continued lol would make her feel just a little less bothered by it even.Hm, maybe. She's hot no matter what she's wearing, really.>Meryl is a tough one for me. I feel like she has more feminity in 4 in an awkward way at times despite being bulked up. I don't know, I enjoyed 4 despite it being well, 4, but it was an odd bag of stuff.Yeah, I just mean the whole, thing. With her. And Johnny. Sigh.
>>4136196>>4136198I've never played FF5 but this does sound interesting.>Noelle will see a vision of Rudy/DessSeeing Dess should be more shocking than Rudy, she went missing god knows how long ago.>Susie will see a vision of TorielI think Toriel works well enough, the only other emotional connections Susie has are Ralsei. Kris and Noelle.>but also becoming vulnerable to healing (Susie’s healing will come in handy).This would be so cool, it makes me lament how little Deltarune uses its actual RPG elements.
>>4136230>Uh, hope you weren't expecting much.it's cute enough. 10/10, would go on a date with intentions of marriage.>I dunno, maybe I'd do a better job drawing it than kitbashing a sprite for it. Maybe later.listen to the dark voice within your being that t ells you "draw more luzma". it's an evil and powerful, but also very correct voice.>Yeah, I just mean the whole, thing. With her.>And Johnny.yeah I don't have anything I can say about this here. MGS4 just kind of did a bunch of things far out of our control. I firmly believe Kojima lost the plot and never gave any Metal gears after 4 a chance even if 4 was fun within its insanity.
Good morning anons, with the 'chan being backfrom the dead, I bring you big bird who may or may not leave your pelvis completely shattered, but it would be worth it.My first time trying out something like this, and while I don't think I did that well it might not be that bad. So hopefully you guys can enjoy it too.Update, never fucking mind. Both catbox and litterbox are fucking dead. I'll try again after work, sorry about that, gentlemen.
>>4136235>it's cute enough. 10/10, would go on a date with intentions of marriage.Well, mission accomplished I guess.>listen to the dark voice within your being that t ells you "draw more luzma". it's an evil and powerful, but also very correct voice.Ah, well...Yeah, alright. All my ideas got wiped after I basically assumed I'd never be back here again, so I guess I can do Luzma after my current project.And then draw her sometime after that.>yeah I don't have anything I can say about this here.Yeah, see, not good.>MGS4 just kind of did a bunch of things far out of our control.Well, it did also give us, uh.Ocelot was fun, I don't know.>I firmly believe Kojima lost the plot and never gave any Metal gears after 4 a chance even if 4 was fun within its insanity.What about MGR? Kojimbles didn't make that one, and it's pretty good, even if it continues the trend of MGS4 going completely off the deep end and not being grounded in reality in the slightest anymore.
>>4136237Oh, uh.You try converting the image to ASCII and posting it through text?
>>4136231>This would be so cool, it makes me lament how little Deltarune uses its actual RPG elements.I knew this would be an interesting mechanic to put in a Deltarune scenario, it helps that Siren (unlike a certain boss later in the game) is immune to instant death so reviving items can’t instantly-kill her.
>>4136241I certainly could, but I don't think nsfw is allowed in ascii art either on blue boards.
>>4136237>Good morning anonsTechnically true for some of us, yes.Glad you got the image done, I assume, sorry you can't post it right now.
>>4136240>What about MGR? Kojimbles didn't make that oneoh shit, alright MGR is the last one I played then. I 'd love to replay it some time but the pc port is fucked up last I tried.I honestly enjoyed the stupidity of the wild ride mgs4 had even if it's not the direction I wanted the series to go. my real issue with kojangles is in an interview he made when he started getting obsessed with naked snake, where he said that solid snakes emotions were "less real" which undermined everything he was telling us in the stories of his games for decades. Genuinely that moment I lost all interest in his future games.>Well, it did also give us, uh.>Ocelot was fun, I don't know.it's fun in the way a scifi original would be if it was given really high production values.>Yeah, alright. All my ideas got wiped after I basically assumed I'd never be back here again, so I guess I can do Luzma after my current project.>And then draw her sometime after that.nice.
>>4136243Oh, I've got it, convert it to ASCII, then put it in a rentry, since that's still up!Easy.
>>4136242>instantly-kill her.I was TRYING to say “insta-kill her” oh well, the troubles of phone posting.
>>4136237Sorry about your image woes anon, I look forward to when you can post it, and I hope you're doing well.
>>4136244Yeah, I've managed to finish it yesterday (in my mind at least it's done). I guess I'll see after work if its still fucked.>>4136247You know anon, that's not a bad idea but maybe some other time.>>4136249I'm doing ok, gotta head to work but sucks I can't share beforehand.
>>4136246>oh shit, alright MGR is the last one I played then. I 'd love to replay it some time but the pc port is fucked up last I tried.I think there are some fan-patches you can grab to make it functional nowadays actually.>I honestly enjoyed the stupidity of the wild ride mgs4 had even if it's not the direction I wanted the series to go. >my real issue with kojangles is in an interview he made when he started getting obsessed with naked snake, where he said that solid snakes emotions were "less real" which undermined everything he was telling us in the stories of his games for decades. Genuinely that moment I lost all interest in his future games.Ah, fair.Kojima kinda went off the deep end in a few ways himself, so I understand not really keeping up with him these days.More for Geoff Keighley I guess.>it's fun in the way a scifi original would be if it was given really high production values.I feel like that's perhaps very slightly too harsh, somehow.Ocelot was a fun villain.>nice.Congrats on sort of giving me the first new project idea since my return.Even if that idea is just "draw Luzma again".
>>4136250>Yeah, I've managed to finish it yesterday (in my mind at least it's done). I guess I'll see after work if its still fucked.Well, I look forward to seeing it, just sorry you're being deprived of being able to post it when you want, that's always a pain.
>>4136251>I think there are some fan-patches you can grab to make it functional nowadays actually.yeah I should probably check that out sometime.>I feel like that's perhaps very slightly too harsh, somehow.I have a strong taste for B movies so while it sounds harsh, I don't consider it an insult. B movies are a special kind of just "look man I'm not gonna expect everything to make sense, and I'll get to laugh at the stupid moments later" but the production value manages to make the xray hallway genuinely emotional.and yeah Ocelot was fun, the final fight was cool even if absurd.Just, god damnit, the whole series basically made it clear that despite being a clone, Solid snake was just as much of a person as he allowed himself to be, and Kojima to a fat shit on that because he lost touch with his own story. I wonder if there's a parallel to how Deltarune has been changing as it's chapters go on over the years.anyways.>Congrats on sort of giving me the first new project idea since my return.>Even if that idea is just "draw Luzma again".a worthy cause.
>>4136177>she might take some kind of offense to being called cute like thatShe prefers to be called cool or hot but she will still accept the compliment with (almost) the same level of confidence.>>4136182>insulted like that while on a date with someone she liked? She would rather not have to deal with that in the middle of a date, trying to see it as a minor setback, still would take the chance to style on whoever messed with her date.>>4136185>>4136186She might not be the most feminine woman out there, but she still likes the elegance and style that comes with certain dresses, fighting with combat gear is cool and all, but there's an "aura" that comes when fighting while wearing fancy clothes.She paid for the dress and she's going to use the entire dress.>>4136200>he did good work.Thanks.>>4136206>her date and seeing her dates be unable to take his eyes off herShe would definitely enjoy the attention the dress brings.>>4136230>picNot bad actually, reminds me of some of my first designs for her clothes, back when I wasn't sure what to give her.Pic related is a cleaned up version of an sprite I did of her a long while ago.>whyWell, I did say there's going to be a date with her, also I was bored.
>>4136257>She paid for the dress and she's going to use the entire dress.lord almighty that's hot in a way that's hard to comprehend.>She might not be the most feminine woman out there, but she still likes the elegance and style that comes with certain dresses, fighting with combat gear is cool and all, but there's an "aura" that comes when fighting while wearing fancy clothes.but I see what you mean.
>>4136257>She prefers to be called cool or hot but she will still accept the compliment with (almost) the same level of confidence.Yeah, fair. Man, if I wouldn't still like to see her flustered though. Perhaps it's simply not meant to be...>She might not be the most feminine woman out there, but she still likes the elegance and style that comes with certain dresses, fighting with combat gear is cool and all, but there's an "aura" that comes when fighting while wearing fancy clothes.>She paid for the dress and she's going to use the entire dress.Hm, that's fair, yeah.It makes sense it'd still be tied to fighting though.>Thanks.'course.>Not bad actually, reminds me of some of my first designs for her clothes, back when I wasn't sure what to give her.>Pic related is a cleaned up version of an sprite I did of her a long while ago.Huh, neat. Cool to see.I like it still exposing her tail some, I was thinking of doing that with my kitbash back there, but I figured that was too ambitious. This sprite looks really nice though, damn.>Well, I did say there's going to be a date with her, also I was bored.God damn is it a shame Val isn't an adult.Fuck.Oh well.
>>4136252There's always another time, anon. Gonna be my past thread relevant art for a while, I got a lot of other things to draw.
>>4136261>Man, if I wouldn't still like to see her flustered though. Perhaps it's simply not meant to be...I said *almost* for a reason, its not impossible, just very hard.>God damn is it a shame Val isn't an adult.This is like the fifth time I've heard this, and I've got the feeling it won't be the last.
>>4136272>I said *almost* for a reason, its not impossible, just very hard.Intriguing...That's a challenge worth aspiring to, if I've ever heard one. I'd love to know what could possibly fluster her so, but I imagine that will have to wait some time.>This is like the fifth time I've heard this, and I've got the feeling it won't be the last.She's just a very rather nice character.That I want immensely.God, she's probably one of my favorite characters around here, honestly. She's just really great, I can't overstate that.
Okay, I wrote something stupid, like I said I would.I feel like I should apologize for this, somehow, but I'm not sure why.>you awake, slowly>sleep is lifted from you gradually, like a heavy blanket being pulled off your body>light shines through the blinds of your bedroom windows, gently illuminating the room>more, anyway>you see Luzma, your wife, sleeping peacefully with you, her arms wrapped around you, holding you close to her as she sleeps>you can't help but smile, seeing the serene look on her face as she lays with you, knowing how difficult it can sometimes be for her to find peace even as she rests>you stay like this for just a moment longer, taking in her warmth, before you shift slightly to look at the clock on the wall>8:05 AM>you let out a quiet sigh, as you remember that you have some errands to run this morning, and that you must therefore cut this pleasant respite short>not wanting to disturb her, you gently try and move yourself out from her warm embrace,>only to feel her pulling you closer to her, even as she's asleep>you try to lift her arms off of you, but she grips you even tighter, her fiery claws almost beginning to dig into your back slightly>you stop moving, just to prevent becoming even more ensnared in her iron grip>carefully, you bring your hand to her head, and lightly tap her cheek to wake her, as you deem it a necessary evil for being able to leave your bed and get on with the day>she slowly, groggily opens her eye, just a bit, and you can see her eventually focus on your face after briefly processing being woken up, though she doesn't seem to bother manifesting her mouth at all1/3
>>4136285>slightly intimidated by her sleepy, but piercing gaze, you begin to speak>"Uh, sorry to wake you dear, but could you move just a bit? I have to get out of bed, errands to run.">she looks at you, blinking slowly a few time, before she answers>"Mmmrmm...no.">uh>before you can say anything else, she closes her eye again, and holds you closer to her, depriving you of even the limited movement you had before, as she mumbles contently in your presence>your breath hitches slightly as her warmth washes over you, contrasting from the somehow cool air of the bedroom>but, you know it can't last, you have things to do today after all>with a tinge of remorse, you somewhat loudly clear your throat, and attempt to get through to her again, your physical struggles having already been thoroughly silenced>*AHEM*>she grumbles a bit in her sleep, before she opens her eye again, this time focusing on you immediately, with a look of mild irritation >"Luzma, I'm really sorry, but I have to go deal with some things. I just need you to let me go for a bit, alright? I'll come back to you as soon as I can, I swear.">she looks at you for a bit, silently, her face still heavy with sleepiness>you feel her arms move just a bit, as you feel some mild relief>only for her to grab you even harder, pulling you even closer to her, until your face is right up against hers, your bodies pressing together tightly>she looks at you with what can only be described as desire, her mouth manifesting in a sleepy smile, as she giggles a bit>"kehehe...all mine...">the situation has escalated2/3
>>4136286>you feel some mild panic, really wanting to get your business out of the way today so you can quit worrying about it, but you seem to be fighting a losing battle>she hasn't tried to go back to sleep yet, so you make another attempt at negotiating your way out>"Luzma, dear, I really need to get going, it'll just take a-">before you can finish speaking, she raises a counterargument>she pulls you even closer to her, and slightly downwards, using one of her hands to push your face directly into her breasts, silencing your argument entirely>"shush", she says, giggling to herself softly>your face is currently warm, surrounded on all sides by her large assets>any thoughts of continued struggling are immediately driven away by the strength of her, argument>you let out a contented sigh, into her breasts, prompting some more sleepy giggles from your jailer>"Oh well", you think to yourself, using your limited freedom to wrap your arms around her>"I can just deal with all that later.">you give into her strength, and fall asleep with the two best pillows in the world3/3
Okay, no more of that for a bit.Er, ideally, anyway. She's very distracting.Back to work.
>>4136286>>the situation has escalatedheh>>any thoughts of continued struggling are immediately driven away by the strength of her, argumentthat's pretty good. I mean she DID have a convincing argument after all.Good stuff anon.
>>4136285>>4136286>>4136289That was nice anon, really nice.>>you give into her strength, and fall asleep with the two best pillows in the worldLucky bastard.
>>4136285>>4136286>>4136289Good stuff anon, she isn't the Queen of the Mercenaries for nothing after all, one hell of a parrlay skill she got there.
>>4136299>Lucky bastard.The story's written in second-person (or my poor attempt at it), (you)'re the lucky bastard. >>4136293>>4136300Thank you, I'm very glad you all liked it, happy to serve a purpose.
>>4136158ye.>>4136153i've been trying to doot out a green theme of some type but i just keep making harpsichord noises because i can't get the piano to sound normal on furnacethis is just one week of me ever composing things.also furnace doesn't let me glissando, lemme glissando please hragblahcan't even share the doots since catbox is downthoughts and ideas: there's no flowey in the ruins, so that entire hook of Undertale is gone. I don't want to just poop a monster outta my butt that fills that role arbitrarily. But because I am unoriginal, I was wondering if maybe an Old Loox named Seemore would be a better first encounter: a nice and well-meaning old monster who has grandkids. He has actual memory issues so when he guides Sa'ni towards his house for a nice cup of tea he accidentally leads Sa'ni into dangerous yet-to-be-Toriel'd traps.These "memory issues" eventually culminate in feeding Sa'ni the golden flowers as a tea.Since Sa'ni was trained as a mage for as long as he remembers, this isn't too big an issue. One of the items I was thinking Sa'ni would bring with is an Herbology encyclopedia: it's full of fond memories of identifying and tasting every plant he's ever encountered. Including golden flowers. They're pretty bitter and give him a headache.
>>4136304oh neat, you're the one what been doing the doots? Good on you trying to get that shit going. >But because I am unoriginal, I was wondering if maybe an Old Loox named Seemore would be a better first encounter: a nice and well-meaning old monster who has grandkids. He has actual memory issues so when he guides Sa'ni towards his house for a nice cup of tea he accidentally leads Sa'ni into dangerous yet-to-be-Toriel'd traps.These "memory issues" eventually culminate in feeding Sa'ni the golden flowers as a tea.Since Sa'ni was trained as a mage for as long as he remembers, this isn't too big an issue. One of the items I was thinking Sa'ni would bring with is an Herbology encyclopedia: it's full of fond memories of identifying and tasting every plant he's ever encountered. Including golden flowers. They're pretty bitter and give him a headache.that's a good name for a loox.I think thats an interesting idea so far though, maybe the interplay that happens there could be made more relevant as the story goes on.
>>4136302>Thank you, I'm very glad you all liked it, happy to serve a purpose.Of course anon, but you don't 'need to serve a purpose', we are always happy to have you here.
>>4136307Thank you, but I believe you know my thoughts on that already.Sidenote, I forgot to include the detail of Luzma wrapping her wisp tail around your legs in the story, and I'm legitimately upset with myself for that. I thought of the idea once before, and I wanted to have it in this, but I forgot to actually put it in. Horrible work on my part, awful.
>>4136308>spoilersNTA but that just means you have to make use of that idea some time in the future.
>>4136308I stand by what I said anon.>spoilerDang, a nice detail but even in post it's very acceptable to think of. Thanks for sharing it, maybe you could include that in a pic?
>>4136311I'll try, but I swear it keeps slipping from me.I've had this idea for a bit now since I first thought of it, and I keep wanting to put it in something, but it always slips my mind. Someday.
>>4136304The flowey stand-in is a big one eyed spider monster who is really obsessed with a turqoise/light blue gear he found somewhere, lost and wants Sa'ni to both find it and give it to him.
>>4136313I'll work the idea into subliminal messages across all of my posts like a cognito hazard, but the results may be chaotic, such as random Luzma tails showing up everywhere.
>>4136312>I stand by what I said anon.Mm, well. Still, thank you.>Dang, a nice detail but even in post it's very acceptable to think of. Thanks for sharing it, maybe you could include that in a pic?I can try, I'd need to do some proper Luzma/Anon for that, which I've only done once in visual form, really.I do have some ideas, but I'm not sure I could fit that particular detail in soon.
>>4136305There's a little leeway for interplay, ye. We've yet to encounter monsters with fun actual old person problems, let alone vanished without a trace>>4136308need one eyed fire lady wife>>4136314perkele :DDD
>>4136315Hm.Sounds inconvenient, plus, I'd rather have all of her, not just the tail.
>>4136319>spoilersoh fucking hell alright now you've got my attention.
>>4136289So good it made me feel lonely after reading it, never stop writing>her large assetsHow large?
Goodnight anons, you crazy sons of guns. Keep on keeping on out there.
>>4136324>So good it made me feel lonely after reading itNow that's an accomplishment if I've ever heard of one. Thank you.>never stop writingAlso thank you, but I am sorry to tell you writing is just a side thing I do sometimes.>How large?About as large as I've drawn them before.
>>4136304I know it was you making those tracks, its really cool to see a local dev trying his hand at music.>Second spoilersOh fuck, for a second I thought that would be a set up for Sa'ni being poisoned through the entire game, kind of funny to think any other fallen child would have easily died from that.
>>4136319>perkele :DDDOr did I mess up and his name is three eyes? I don't speak sauna so I might have misremembered it.>>4136316Of course anon, any time. And maybe in the future you'll get to incorporate the idea.
>>4136328>About as large as I've drawn them before.Those would be some heavenly pillows
>>4136321I need to really, really really REALLY work on what I'm writing so it isn't deltatraveller-pre-chapter-3/4 bad. Getting to the point where a tard-wrangler/editor will absolutely be necessary. But the ideas are tearing into me and leaving scars.have more doothttps://files.catbox.moe/8rq1m7.mp3https://files.catbox.moe/juu9le.mp3
>>4136338It's hard to stop the ideas from piling on, isn't it? It might have been asked befote but how come you went with a finnish inspiration, aside Mina's insane powertrips or hilarious deaths?
>>4136335Kolmisilmä is just the start of the journey, disguised as an end.>>4136340Things kept falling into place, didn't think about it too hard while still using inspiration from Noita. Minä entering a holy mountain was way too close of a pun for me not to consider the fallen children entering a holey mountain. The creation story and taunting hidden messages everywhere pointing out the knower to be is simply following a set path and unable to break apart from it no matter what made me think of Deltarune. Noita's world is a gnostic nightmare complete with the world hatching from an Egg.The weird route is an existential nightmare. Everything's a mishmash, I can't help but STEAL and APPROPRIATE.It's odd to consider that humans lost their magic by sealing monsters away. The implication it creates is that monsters were necessary for magic to exist, and the humans sacrificed the benefits of magic in order to prevent something like Asriel and Racter from occurring.But that begs a new question; since monsters are made of emotion, they could never have existed before humans, right?
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>>4136344Oh yeah, I know ol' kolmi just the beginning (watched way too much videos about it on youtube from certain content creators) but him and squidward are the most known bosses in the game.A good comparison if any. Is Sa'ni equipped with the unhinged tendencies and lust for secrets like Mina? Is he gonna find a green tablet and kickflip it into enemies? that would probably be an 'evil route' thing, I haven't looked too deep into your idea when you talkrd about it before, I'm sorry I don't know if thats even a thing for you I'm sure there are many wonders or horrors for ones with inquisitive minds and human souls, to find down there.A good question, were monsters born of human imagination and emotion, or were they there before but couldn't take proper shape until man got to that level?
Time for rest.I have made some progress on my current project, though it will still be some time before it is completed, and I am able to move on to the next.I hope it will be less than a week's time, at least.I am glad I was able to make those various Luzma stories recently, though.She has become something of a comfort to me, in these times. I still do not feel great, for a variety of reasons, but thoughts of her have been of some help as I manage things.Naranjadev. I am very grateful to you for sharing your characters with these threads, and for sharing details of them with me when I asked, so long ago now. I have greatly enjoyed making works of them, and they have been a light to me when things have been dark. Thank you.Goodnight.
>>4136353Rest well anon. Good dreams and productive days for you.
Time for the hardest part of the concept rentry: "Should I try to name the characters I've written info for with my absolutely terrible name sense or should I let anons suggest names"
>>4136377You can give them the surnames and we will give them the names
>>4136381I'm not good at those either, lol.
Here is a new JP image of the character profile type.
Axis is too big
>>4136434You’re just nitpicking, he’s around the right scale next to Clover
>>4136434Daisy...
hello ladies and germs, it is without further adieu that i release the GELtarune: Use First Demowindows: https://files.catbox.moe/5j9gto.ziplinux (for my linux homies): https://files.catbox.moe/e2254c.zipnot a lot of content to sink your teeth into but I hope you enjoy.
>>4136519This is a zip bomb that destroys your computer btw
>>4136519Holy shit! I wasn't expecting to see this today, this is great news for the thread, I'll play it as soon as I can and I'll give as much feedback as I can.Congratulations in being able to make a demo, this is a great achievement.
>>4136523are zip bombs still a thing?either way will run it on my offline side PC as I always do with these sort of things
>>4136519This is simply an opinion, not an objective flaw, I like the game, but damn do I hate the tile puzzles lmao, always have ever since my parents decided I was the "smart" one and got me oracle of ages when I was younger.
>>4136353Good to hear that you've been making progress, its amazing to know that my autism has somehow helped you in your day.>I am very grateful to you for sharing your characters with these threads, and for sharing details of them with me when I asked, so long ago now. I have greatly enjoyed making works of them, and they have been a light to me when things have been dark. Thank you.Thank's to you too, I'm vbery grateful for having someone as creative as you around the threads as an anon and as a fan, and for giving me a chance to share more details about the UTN characters, your works have been an excellent motivator in the days when I was feeling lazy, keep up the good work. And I hope you've slept well.
>>4136519So I've finished the demo, and I do like it a lot, the only real "issue" I could say with it is that the Geeza's pill attack where they aren't clashing, ideally, should shatter in a fixed orientation aligning with the sprite graphic, and Bastelect should maybe have her own theme, she's got really good presentation, but she doesn't really have the same vibe as lancer at all.Other than that, really nice demo, I like the attention to detail that Kiaos can't wear gloves.
>>4136519Oh shit, I kneel Anonymous-san. Will try and play when I'm off work.
>>4136519got to the town place so far and it's good though I do think some of the patterns are a bit tricky for a first area, also in this setting lightners mutate into the dark world?guess I'll play more later and see if that's answered
>>4136519I think the guys that post on Noz know.
>>4136600Just post the pic/link
>>4136615https://noz.rip/sketch/gallery#26695https://noz.rip/sketch/gallery#26696
>>4136617He doesn't look like Bradley...Atleast draw the charger gurl with him...
>>4136620I didn't draw that
>>4136622You should though
>>4136617neato
>>4136519Do you plan on releasing this outside of here?
>>4136519Ok so minor bug, that's kind of funny Second grease slide after first encountering Bastelect with the scene transition lacks collision locking you onto it so you can clip out of bounds, it's fairly easy to get back in bounds and it doesn't seem you can go anywhere unintentional doing this
Posted it in the other place but forgot to post it here, that Ceroba mod for Rivals of Aether 1 is out. She seems pretty cool, has a gimmick where you can extend your normals' recovery to shoot a small projectile (haven't found much use for it but I'm sure lab monsters will find ways to extend combos with it), and her staff has a tipper hitbox at the bell similar to Marth from Smash Bros. She has an U-Strong (a.k.a. U-Smash) that creates a stone pillar which functions as a wall and platform, her dash attack is her surfing on a wave of petals and she can run off the stage Wile E. Coyote style, there's a lot of cool stuff.The part of her kit that stands out to me the most is her Up+B which launches her from a platform made of petals; she can both cancel her normals into that move and cancel that move into her normals, can Up+B twice from the air, and restores both uses of Up+B when she performs a wall jump (every stage in RoA1 has walls and restoring Up+B is a universal mechanic). I'm not good enough at the game to do proper ladder combos from this but I bet you could see some Smash 4 Bayonetta shit if you mastered her.Her other specials are all projectiles; she has a chargeable laser, the diamond attack that paralyzes your SOUL on hit, a bouncing exploding bell and a lantern that shoots bullets. Hitting the lantern with your staff will make it explode and the opponent can get caught in the explosion.I don't want to use up too much image limit so here's a catboxed video of her 32 paletteshttps://files.catbox.moe/6warus.mp4The Ralsei mod that released in this pack is extremely cool, Ralsei even has two sets of sprites depending on whether the player wants him to have a hat or not, but then I saw multiple "egg" references and realized the mod maker is a trans Ralsei believer so I don't want to shill that specific character anymore. Chapter 6 is going to nuke this fandom, thank god we have a bunker here
>>4136672>Axisis whatever mod that adds him any good?
>>4136678Not particularly, he feels very stiff and none of his attacks are that interesting. He has a battery gimmick where his attacks cost meter but the attacks you get from those don't seem better than what most characters in this game get for free, and his battery recharges so slowly that I imagine you'd spend a lot of time just not having any specials. I like his F-Strong, which uses Jandroid's mop and removes his friction, but the rest is too uninteresting to even really talk about. There are some references that could have been cute if they were executed better, like him dropping a beaker of hydrochloric acid on the floor as his DAir, but it's just a normal projectile and doesn't even seem to cause knockback (which isn't a mistake, there have been other projectile like that in Smash, but they're usually spammable while this one isn't)I was surprised to find he has a Deltarune Yellow palette, though. In the rare chance whoever made this mod is here sorry I didn't think it was better. It was the author's first character so I'm not gonna be a dick about it
Finally, the duality of Clover depicted from a Japanese perspective.
>>4136714What would happen if Clover saw Asriel death scene through juandice vision when he face Asgore?
>>4136717You mean flawed pacifist or genocide? Probably the latter.It might give him pause but I feel like by the end of Geno his resolve is so high it would not make him falter and he’d ultimately decide that another monster less is a good thing.
>>4136689ah, that's a shame then, though it is cool that he has that DRY scheme at least. I stopped playing smash a while ago and never really gave these alternate platform fighters a chance, but the chance to get to play as some of these characters if they are fun sounds kind of neat.
>>4136237I'm finally home and Catbox seems to be still down for me, same for litterbox. Any other image hosting websites I could use for purposes of sharing the shower bird?
>>4136730An anon helped me out with procuring the links (thank god). So without further ado, here is Valravn post shower, excited to see you. Also a bonus behind the scenes shot because why not.https://files.catbox.moe/riu4o8.webphttps://files.catbox.moe/ub0ha4.webphttps://files.catbox.moe/1tbzns.webp
>>4136730Catbox is working for me. Try it again.
>>4136730just keep refreshing until it works
>>4136732>behind the scenesheh, niceI WANT A BEHIND THE SCENES SPECIAL EXPERIENCE WITH MARTLET
>>4136733>>4136734It just straight up refuses to load in, same with litterbox and thats after trying for over a minute.>>4136736I would like to do it too anon, I would like to do it too.
>>4136732Covered boobs, almost exposed boobs, bird butt, in that exact order.
>>4136723What if he then tried to pry into flowey's mind (assuming flawed pacifist and that he was able to reload)
>>4136732Good stuff m8, really showing off that shes a bird of prey.
>>4136746I would like to be her prey too, anon. But one can only dream of such things.
>>4136748What if she wants you to be the predator once in a while?
>>4136748If you want your fantasies and dreams to come true, draw them. It's what every drawanon here has come to realize. Or hope some kind soul here draws it for you.
>>4136750Anon, I think that's the guy that drew the art just now.
>>4136751Wait really? I thought it was someone else.
>>4136753He was responding to someone commenting on the art. Yeah it COULD be anyone, but it seemed pretty relevant to what was being said.Anyways, Bird Sexo.
>>4136196 (PART1)This is part 2 of my draft mapping out a Deltatraveler scenario in FF5, last time the party made out of the ship graveyard and now they’re free to explore further, let’s see what they do with this freedom.After surviving their encounter with Siren the team moves into the world map where they can travel to the nearby town of Carwen to rest and resupply (no optional areas to go to yet).On the way they’ll have many encounters with the local fauna of aggressive predators and burly beasts, but unlike the undead in the ship graveyard these monsters can still be pacified and/or made to flee instead of killed.After a bit of a long walk the party finally makes it to Carwen where they can finally unwind and relax.There will be a lot of optional little conversations and interactions in town as they look around (just like in the original ff5).Kris will be a bit visibly uncomfortable being in a village full of humans but will ultimately acquiesce to the circumstances.The people won’t really mind (or care much really) about the two monster girls with Kris so long as they behave well, so Everyone is nice and friendly.1/2
>>4136758Some notable optional interactions will involve, numerous conversations with people to learn about the current circumstances and where to go next.Finding some hidden items across town including an ice rod for Noelle, her ice magic will not seem like such overkill against the burly more powerful enemies in this place (still no snowgrave though).The party can also visit the pub and can interact with the piano for a cool little interaction, Kris’s piano skill (a funny little joke stat in FF5) will already be maxed out.I would like to have a little sequence where Kris plays piano and all the people in the pub start to dance along and having a good time celebrating and cheering with the team but idk if Kris would be willing to play for an audience of strangers friendly though they may be.After gathering information around town, the party learns about the elements connected to the elemental crystals are weakening and decide they should help by checking on the nearby water crystal.But before that they are going to check the north mountain to find an injured wind drake they had heard in town has taken roost in the mountain top.The party gathers their supplies and makes their way towards the North Mountain.PART2 ENDThis one was pretty fun to map out, and makes me realize how compatible FF5’s antics are with Deltarune, they we’re doing a lot of meta jokes about RPGs even before Earthbound did, they end up feeling very similar (Mother 1 still did it first though).Also would be nice to have a Deltarune rendition of the town song that Carwen uses.https://youtu.be/xrKpVJ1_PP8?is=G4IBUixETqiGdcRf
>>4136750What the other anon below you said lol. I'm the guy who drew Valravn/Zenmart.
>>4136764Damn, now I feel stupid lol.
>>4136766eh it happens. Sometimes we get to have a little bit of a silly moment. As a treat.
>>4136732I like how the lightning was done in this one, also that butt shot is hot, good work anon.
>>4136672Cool, I saw your post on the other site.>spoilerHow grim, now I feel morbidly curious to know what those references are.
>>4136773There's a Miiverse stage on the workshop, based on the now-defunct Smash 4 stage, and players making characters can define their own Miiverse drawings to appear on the stage. You can have as many as you want, and three of Ralsei's (second, third and fourth from the right) are "egg" jokes.Here's all of them, and I included Axis's Miiverse drawings too. Ceroba and Clover don't have any; there's no real standard for what mods you should make compatible with your own, and the Ralsei and Axis modders just happened to want to
>>4136776Ah fuck, well I suppose the mod must still be of high quality to be on that pack, I always found the term "egg" to be really creepy, sounds like something a Discord groomer would come up.
>>4136784It's extremely high quality, it's just so unfortunate that that got added in there.
>>4136672>>4136784What does word "egg" have anything to do trans?Like ok, there is shit with eggs in DR and schizo trans ralsei theory but what is the correlation? Some shitty anagram of rebirth as the other gender?
>>4136804*to do with**allegory, not anagram.
>>4136804It's meant to signify "coming out of their shell" (cracking the egg), it's a weird fetish term they came up with to refer to people becoming trans.Frankly, I don't think any of that stuff belongs in a game community full of minors.
>>4136784>sounds like something a Discord groomer would come up.because that's exactly what it is. It's groomer terminology that gets you attacked if you call it grooming because well, it's not like they're going to acknowledge it for what it is.
>>4136319>with fun actual old person problemsI had some ideas for that, it was an incredibly powerful monster who's also incredibly senile. So he's apt to to mistakenly cast the max level spell when he meant to do something else, or to do the inverse, or to simply forget what he was doing and cast a spell out of habit. He'll also routinely mistake you for other people, because in addition to being senile, he's also half blind
>>4136804I hate bogging the thread down with this more than it is, but an "egg" is a trans person who doesn't yet know they're trans, according to the people who use the term. It's quite literally grooming; it's trying to convince somebody who isn't trans to transition.Flowery's "princess" talk, while it could very well be innocent, would instantly be retconned into hardcore grooming were the schizo trans theory come true.
>>4136340Who's Mina?
>>4136344I wonder how many competing monster creation myths we'll have once everything is said and done.
>>4136771Thanks anon. I had lots of help with it and could have refined it to be better but I was starting to feel the 'I would like to work on other things and finish this up.' Still, glad you like it.
Racter coming out of the egg!
>>4136830Racters mamma is gonna thwack you.The soul is too.
>>4136830>>4136831Would baby racter look cute like a chick or would he look ugly as hell like some other baby birds?
>>4136225>Part of the point of the Genocide route in Undertale is that you become too overpowered to the point the game's story breaks.That's only at the tail-end where the Chara-Frisk-Player whatever connections gives them the ability to throw enough 9s to crash the game. But most pertinent is how encounters, and therefore means to increase LVL, reduce the further you go in Undertale. That is very much not the case in Fallout and story wise the protagonist should come up against more foes the further they get through the story.>true story enemies.The Super Mutant analogues ||Corpses infused with the Souls of humans, resurrecting and empowering them and also leaving nothing when they die a second time.||
Speaking of Racter. and monsters in general of course. I wonder how much of an effect the armor they wear actually has on their defense, since it turns to dust with them generally. Does Racters breastplate thing deflect any attacks? Does undynes armor do so and we just don't see it in action?Or does it just increase max HP.>>4136833Extremely cute because he hadn't learned to be scared yet (maybe?) and was with his mamma
>>4136836>|| ||anon I'm sorry but I'm gonna have to skin you now.
>>4136836>Discord spoilersThat's a paddlin'
>>4136837We never figured out how racter would pose if he winrar...
>>4136844if Oldentale anon ever feels up for taking requests again, that might be a fun request.I tried sitting down to doodle something myself when that was posted but I'm dum and couldn't think of anything.
>>4136836> ||I'll you a hint, use CTRL + S next time you want to add spoilers, that being said... Anons maim him!
>>4136831Excheese me? (You) have already cracked Racter shell of being a shy yellow chick into becoming a valorant fighter rooster
>>4136852I will refrain from speaking of it in that terminology but Racter having a super form that is him being rooster like sounds funny.
>>4136849I know how to spoiler stuff but I didn't get your hint, what?
>>4136858He means if you press those two you automatically get the correct spoiler tags>>4136838>>4136840>>4136849Hey it's been a year since I've posted anything spoil worthy
>>4136837I think monster armors could be a psychological thing, they don't really give the monsters any protection from killing intent in the traditional sense, instead they make the monsters feel more secure about being able to survive attacks with killing intent, a delusional enough monster could have the same amount of defense as a monster with full plate armor, just because they both think they could survive most attacks, but for different reasons.
>>4136857Grooming Racspr into Val Naranja (forma de bird)...
>>4136861Funnily enough, Undyne actually has 1 more defense when without armor
>>4136822>could have refined it to be better but I was starting to feel the 'I would like to work on other things and finish this up.'That's actually a good mindset when you are learning an skill, you improve more by making multiple different drawings instead of using a lot of time in polishing a single piece.
>>4136861heh, ok yeah I could see that working. I wonder though, some of the monster equipment in oldentale I THINK is implied to be designed in such a way that it doesn't go away after the monsters death? I'm wondering if the idea is that some of it has extra enchantments on it or something. though there's something funny to the thought that the enchantment is just "makes you feel better about yourself" thus roundabout improving your defense that way.
>>4136861>delusional enough monster could have the same amount of defense as a monster with full plate armor, just because they both think they could survive most attacks, but for different reasons.so that's how Shu survives all those beatings.
>>4136861Emperor's New Clothes-ing a monster into 999 Defense
>>4136866>some of the monster equipment in oldentale I THINK is implied to be designed in such a way that it doesn't go away after the monsters death?They are?Anyway, monsters are all about emotion, I remember this concept of the empty gun from Undertale dealing damage despite not shooting bullets, because pointing the gun at a monster and pulling the trigger with killing intent is enough to harm them, in this case a monster with an armor could think that even if that gun had bullets he could survive the shot thanks to his armor.There might be other equipment that does provide physical or magical defense but the killing intent thing should be their main priority.
>>4136868Naked Emperor Shu...
>>4136867>so that's how Shu survives all those beatings.Deep down Mr. Shutan doesn't buy into his own bullshit, which is why he isn't as strong as he could be despite his delusions.
>>4136858If you select the text and then press CTRL + S it will add the spoiler tags around it, unless you are a phone poster
>>4136870Hey man, if you want to lust after Shu we won't judge you, at leas not hard as we could
>>4136873But that's not a hint though? That's just straight up telling what you have to do?
>>4136869>They are?I remember talk about humans scavenging some of their metal weapons. I like the idea of them maybe working with a real weapon and magicking it but I had only just joined the threads I think when the idea was first being talked about.>Anyway, monsters are all about emotion, I remember this concept of the empty gun from Undertale dealing damage despite not shooting bullets, because pointing the gun at a monster and pulling the trigger with killing intent is enough to harm them, in this case a monster with an armor could think that even if that gun had bullets he could survive the shot thanks to his armor.I remember seeing some stuff about that. I think the sprite for the guns hits mention determination in some way but people have mixed opinions on determination bullets.>There might be other equipment that does provide physical or magical defense but the killing intent thing should be their main priority.killing intent should definitely be the main thing alongside strength of the soul involved, but I do think there's room for some play.>>4136872Just enough self assurance to not die, but far from enough to keep him from actually pulling off impressive feats. what a fate.
>>4136672>thank god we have a bunker hereYou say that like Toby didn't hit us with a 2000lb bunker buster just four months ago
>>4136877If his intention was to destroy us, then he failed.
>>4136874>lustDon't know why would you lust after him, but the thought of somebody convincing him that he got some super invisible armor is quite funny.
>>4136875I'm not that anon
Who is stronger TAS, NTA or TBD?
>>4136876I think I was arguing with Oldentale anon because he said that the humans in Oldentale were in the stone age, and I replied by showing him the sword one of the human has in Undertale's intro, that looked like a late medieval European sword which obviously couldn't have been made by paleolithic humans, as a way to explain this I proposed that maybe those humans got the sword as an spoil of war.
>>4136758 (both me)>>4136760I don’t want to sound entitled, but I will recognize that I AM being entitled, I would appreciate any kind of input on my writing here, even if it’s just to say that it’s trash and I’m a retard, and there is zero interest for the scenario, I’d like anything EXCEPT dead silence, it’s hard to maintain the motivation to keep writing this when there is no audience.Or am I just being a bitch and I should just suck it up?
>>4136881>TASWho?>TBDHe was featured in a few fangames but as far as I know his only relevant role has been in Wildfire.>NTABy far the strongest, because he could be any of us, any of the writers, artists or devs here.
>>4136883maybe that's what it came from. I'm not against the idea, though I don't know if it's "correct".I mean, an important question we must ask of any fantasy setting. Why make swords if they aren't allowed to be magical?OH shit, or what if the weapon only goes away if the monster who created them dies, and that monster is still in the capital?
He's NTA... but NTA of what? It could be anything, he could be anyone
>>4136884No I understand anon. It's fair to want some feedback, and honestly I've gotten super bummed out on stuff of mine before that didn't get a response. I gave input on some of the stuff you did yesterday, but haven't gotten around to reading your post there yet. I will here in a bit.
>>4136885>Who?He seems to do all these crazy speedruns and for all sorts of games too, some even call him a hacker.>By far the strongestBut why does he always insert his 2 cents in other people's conversations? Why does he never talk to people directly? What an impolite guy!
>>4136758>>4136760>but unlike the undead in the ship graveyard these monsters can still be pacified and/or made to flee instead of killed.Any reason for this? You already forced the players to kill to progress in the story, so I don't see why the players would try to be pacifists now.>Kris will be a bit visibly uncomfortable being in a village full of humans but will ultimately acquiesce to the circumstances.Actually I always wondered how Kris would act around other humans, we only know that he didn't want to read that book about humans in the Librarby.>people won’t really mind (or care much really) about the two monster girlsAre there no intelligent monsters in FF5 that can join your party?>idk if Kris would be willing to play for an audience of strangers friendly though they may be.Maybe Kris is so hyper focused on the piano that he doesn't notice the people dancing until Noelle or Susie comments on it.>>4136884I forgot to read your post when you posted it, but I fully understand your frustration.
>>4136886>OH shit, or what if the weapon only goes away if the monster who created them dies, and that monster is still in the capital?That could be a possibility, but I do like the idea of monsters having some physical weapons, maybe they thought those would be more effective at killing humans.
>>4136889>He seems to do all these crazy speedruns and for all sorts of games too, some even call him a hacker.Ah, that guy, he's so good he has an entire category of speedruning dedicated to him, because it would be unfair if others had to compete against his skills.>Why does he never talk to people directly?NTA, but probably because he has a lot of opinions on a lot of things.
>>4136884I am sorry, but I don't know Final Fantasy so I can't give any input at all. I would assume other people don't know it as well and that's what causes a lack of engagement.What do you like about FF?
>>4136894A mix would be fun. Maybe your average troop is equiped with weapons made by this "smith" character, but then there's a series of weapons that were made with real, raw materials using magic heat or what not. >maybe they thought those would be more effective at killing humans.maybe they are, but not enough so to overcome all the other problems monsters have stacked against them.
>>4136898Maybe physical weapons are seen as a gimmick or they are some sort of luxury items that only the richest warriors can afford, while the common monsters have to use weapons made out of their own magic.>not enough so to overcome all the other problems monsters have stacked against them.Oldentale anon seemed to imply that monsters aren't that weak in Oldentale, its just that humans can save scum that's why monsters will never win.
>>4136896>NTAHe also seems to have mind control abilities and can force people to say stuff for him...And there are people who didn't believe Undyne...
>>4136900>Maybe physical weapons are seen as a gimmick or they are some sort of luxury items that only the richest warriors can afford, while the common monsters have to use weapons made out of their own magic.that makes sense, but also if you're putting monsters in a situtation where they are having to recruit every last schmuck like Racter maybe they don't have it in them to summon their own weapon, so they give them a magically crafted weapon to boost their confidence slightly, thus raising their attack?>Oldentale anon seemed to imply that monsters aren't that weak in Oldentale, its just that humans can save scum that's why monsters will never win.I do remember something about them being stronger on average, though I don't remember any specifics about that. I still assume they aren't as strong as humans even if they are stronger than in UT.
Is Skully's joint a physical object? What would happen if a human smoked it?
>>4136893>Any reason for this? You already forced the players to kill to progress in the story, so I don't see why the players would try to be pacifists now.I want to leave a theme of knowing when FIGHTing is inevitable and when it’s unnecessary and can be avoided, there is a MASSIVE difference between fighting mindless monstrosities that kill and attack anything that moves, and fighting some rampaging animals and creatures that can still be pacified, tamed, or driven off.>Actually I always wondered how Kris would act around other humans, we only know that he didn't want to read that book about humans in the Librarby.This is why I’m left a bit uncertain about this, and the vagueness of Deltarune doesn’t help, but I could definitely change my opinion on how I see this part of the scenario.>Are there no intelligent monsters in FF5 that can join your party?None that join your party (party in FF5 is pretty tight with only 5 total members and 4 simultaneously) but there are some friendly humanoid creatures like werewolves, and other intelligent creatures who sell their services as mercenaries (also a talking turtle)>I forgot to read your post when you posted it, but I fully understand your frustration.I appreciate it.
>>4136906>Monster passes to you but uses their power to lace their shit when you take a hit
>>4136906>>4136908honestly considering in that Skully story what he got that shit from, it seems pretty laced by default.
>>4136870Make it the Rule 63 version and we have a deal
>>4136907>there is a MASSIVE difference between fighting mindless monstrosities that kill and attack anything that moves, and fighting some rampaging animalsI suppose you're right, Deltarune does have the Titan and the spawns, which must be killed instead of letting you spare them, but introduces them much later into the story.>This is why I’m left a bit uncertain about this, and the vagueness of Deltarune doesn’t help, but I could definitely change my opinion on how I see this part of the scenario.You could have a joke of Kris straight up ignoring the human characters unless absolutely necessary, leaving Noelle and Susie to be the ones that must interact with them.>(party in FF5 is pretty tight with only 5 total members and 4 simultaneously)Huh, well not that different from Deltarune which only gives you 4 party members and 3 simultaneously.
>>4136912People would point out that she's naked and it will ruin it. People are used to not noticing Shu, so that's why it is so effective
>>4136897>I am sorry, but I don't know Final Fantasy so I can't give any input at all.You don’t really have to know the game to understand the scenario, and even questions about “why this happens?” Are valuable to me for the purposes of explaining my thought process behind a decision in the crossover.>What do you like about FF?FF5 in particular is a very whimsical and genuinely funny game that knows exactly when to take itself seriously, it also has a strange amount of thematic overlap with Deltarune (and also Undertale) and at times I feel like something it has DR is missing (it’s also EXTREMELY fun to play and VERY replayable).
I think this is an interesting topic of discussion, but I won't be weighing in on it too hard, for likely obvious reasons. I do have a few things to say though.I think it's extremely unlikely monsters had any physical weapons or armor during the human-monster war, whenever it may have taken place relative to mankind's own development.The only instance of physical armor/weaponry we get to see in UT is Mettaton's base form, which as we get to see when you try to attack him conventionally, is either entirely invincible to physical attacks from a human, or at the very least, realistically strong to physical attacks, the way a rigid metal chassis would be. We also see that Mettaton's electricity attack is capable of doing immense damage to Frisk with only one hit, and is extremely fast to the point of being undodgeable, meaning it may very well be actual electricity he's hitting Frisk with.Based on the fact that these instances of physical weapons and armor are effectively unbeatable, regardless of how many times you savescum to try and fight them manually again, I think it's a fair thing to say that the human monster war would have gone very differently if monsters had metallurgy on a mass scale, since we also know that only one living entity can possess the power to save/load at a time, and also that the ability to save/load doesn't help you get past situations that are literally unbeatable, as seen multiple times in UT itself.Furthermore, I believe it is unlikely a surface-dwelling monster civilization would have invented traditional physical metallurgy to begin with, as they may have very well considered their needs to be covered by their magic armor and weaponry already, and going off the idea that "necessity is the mother of invention", it would make investment into normal kinds of metal working less desirable for them on a large scale.
>>4136917>>What do you like about FF?>FF5 in particular is a very whimsical and genuinely funny game that knows exactly when to take itself seriouslynta but I was actually thinking about this, I don't really have time to type up feedback but it has something to do with that balance.Specifically I think Galuf epitomizes that balance real well, though he's the reverse of what you expect out of UT/DR where UT/DR goes "serious and then silly" galuf you see his silly side more before you ever see him serious.I'll type more later but I'm workan.
>>4136918I believe further instances of this "necessity" mentality can be found in the fact that monsters in the underground appear to lack dedicated medical facilities, likely due to the existence of green magic, as well as the lack of dedicated agricultural facilities, due to their ability to conjure their own food.Okay, I'm out.
>>4136519Did a write up of my thoughts, as has become tradition. Feel free to read (or ignore) my entirely unqualified opinions on the game https://rentry.org/geltarunewriteupOh, and spoilers for anyone who hasn't played it yet
>>4136485Look, she can't handle that full DIM-5 connector in her PS/2 port.
>>4136917What is the story of FF5? Is there a particular reason you chose it for DT, aside from its similarities to DR?
>>4136915>You could have a joke of Kris straight up ignoring the human characters unless absolutely necessary, leaving Noelle and Susie to be the ones that must interact with them.This is a very interesting idea, I DEFINITELY see it being very humorous.>Huh, well not that different from Deltarune which only gives you 4 party members and 3 simultaneously.Trust me, there are many more strange similarities between these two games that I could list (is part of the reason I wanted to write this scenario).
>>4136549nta, but I liked the puzzles. Would like some more puzzle variety though.
>>4136918>>4136921I think that's a fair bunch of points, and I wont hold you to answering my couple of "counters", but I think that a small handful of monsters having a proper metal weapon wouldn't create an unwinnable situation. Especially if it was very small scale like, one monster made them in a "hobbyist approach" before the war and came up with "10 'earthen blades'". Maybe he charged exorbitant prices for them due to the effort that went into making them, and many monsters didn't see the value in them so they stopped getting produced after the monster proved to himself he could make them.I don't know, I find the ideas interesting but I understand that they may not fit perfectly within the world.But real weapons that are magic infused is cool.Anyways don't feel like you have to respond to that.
>>4136659he should add a secret there
On the subject of Geltarune Bastet is cute and I hope her inevitable super form is drop dead sexy
>>4136928That still strikes me as being profoundly unlikely, for a large variety of reasons.It's possible for humans in our society to get into metalworking as a hobby because the groundwork is already laid out for them, the fundamental knowledge has already been gathered and refined over the course of thousands of years, hobbyist blacksmiths aren't having to discover the fundamentals of metalworking all by themselves, alongside building their own equipment from scratch and mining for the right materials.A monster in this context would effectively be pioneering an entire branch of material science, the very concept of which may be completely alien to monsterkind entirely, all by themself, which seems exceedingly implausible, especially if the rest of monster society hasn't even considered physical metalworking as something worth looking into at all by that point.The idea of magic and physical technologies existing alongside each other is interesting, but the magic we see in UT is so fundamentally different, and counter-intuitively self-sustaining, that I really don't see monsters having developed those kinds of technologies on their own.I don't mean this to shut you down or anything so you know.
>>4136918>I believe it is unlikely a surface-dwelling monster civilization would have invented traditional physical metallurgy to begin withMonsters still build houses and stuff, maybe they wouldn't necessarily have weapons but I do believe they would know how metal works.>>4136921>as well as the lack of dedicated agricultural facilities, due to their ability to conjure their own food.I think this can easily be explained with a "Toby Forgor" he's not the best world builder, remember that monsters still seem to eat snails as evidenced by Toriel's book, she also mentions getting "groceries" so I don't think they can magically summon food or if they can its a process more complex than we thought, also Oldentale is implied to be part of UTY's canon with the possible connection between Chujin and Darkblade, and monsters do have farms in UTY.
>>4136784Its insidious if you ask me, has a kind of fetishistic manipulativeness to it. Like they know the other person better than they do and are going to "fix" them and make them like it. I think what really made me hate the term was a comic of Dess "cracking the egg" of Asriel.
>>4136833Probably depends on how old he is. I imagine newborn Racter would look kinda nasty, but he'd start looking like a fluffy little chick after a few weeks.
>>4136932>The idea of magic and physical technologies existing alongside each other is interesting, but the magic we see in UT is so fundamentally different, and counter-intuitively self-sustaining, that I really don't see monsters having developed those kinds of technologies on their own.NTA, but seeing as the core needs more than just magic to exist and there's a whole DT extractor that requires schematics to be built, I think it isn't that far fetched to assume that in the past the royal alchemist (as it get called in Oldentale) would have tried to study the physical world in order to enhance their own magic, since monster magic has clear limitations as proven by those machines.
>>4136837Racter's armor is actual armor in the game, so at least his does work as armor. Can't speak for anyone else's though.
>>4136934>Monsters still build houses and stuff, maybe they wouldn't necessarily have weapons but I do believe they would know how metal works.Most of the buildings we see in UT are either made of wood, or what appears to be some kind of stone, with the two major exceptions to that being the Core, and the Lab.Monsters definitely know how metal works by the time of UT, with Mettaton's base form being made of metal, as I said earlier, but even then, usage of metal doesn't appear to be widespread in monster society at all the way it is in our own.>I think this can easily be explained with a "Toby Forgor" he's not the best world builder, remember that monsters still seem to eat snails as evidenced by Toriel's book, she also mentions getting "groceries" so I don't think they can magically summon food or if they can its a process more complex than we thoughtPossibly, but the exact specifics behind that heavily depend on how exactly their food magic works. I've seen some speculate that monsters can use ingredients to "enhance" the resulting food they conjure, but we really can't say anything for certain about that.As for the snails, I'm willing to say that's likely a similar situation to the spiders we see with Muffet.As in, monster cannibalism.>OldentaleThis is where I will be dropping out of the conversation properly.Good day.
>>4136861I think that may be how it works with humans too. Why else would a heart locket give you so much defense? It makes you feel more secure.
>>4136932>It's possible for humans in our society to get into metalworking as a hobby because the groundwork is already laid out for them, the fundamental knowledge has already been gathered and refined over the course of thousands of years, hobbyist blacksmiths aren't having to discover the fundamentals of metalworking all by themselves, alongside building their own equipment from scratch and mining for the right materials.>A monster in this context would effectively be pioneering an entire branch of material science, the very concept of which may be completely alien to monsterkind entirely, all by themself, which seems exceedingly implausible, especially if the rest of monster society hasn't even considered physical metalworking as something worth looking into at all by that point.>The idea of magic and physical technologies existing alongside each other is interesting, but the magic we see in UT is so fundamentally different, and counter-intuitively self-sustaining, that I really don't see monsters having developed those kinds of technologies on their own.I can see what you mean there. I think monsters in oldentale seem to have a bit more infrstructure, and have tinkers since some of their areas have a lot of "tech" of some sort, though we don't have to get into that. I find it reasonable enough to entertain since early metal working despite its complexities, is also relatively pure in its simplicity (not to undermine the complexity in the process).I also like the idea of "the smith who made x number of legendary weapons" but I understand that's just a personal taste thing. That said, you're right, that any statement such as this undermines how much actually goes into making a single sword, but maybe in a place that has tinkers and golems, there could be some kind of "something" that could happen.>I don't mean this to shut you down or anything so you know.I gotcha, no offense taken or anything, just got it on my mind is all.
>>4136924FF5 shares some of the tone of DR (and UT) with it being a very comedic game with a healthy amount of meta humor, and it also has themes of freedom, adventurous spirit, and the burdens of the past (minus the vague posting).As for its story the best way I could summarize it is: a group of unlikely and VERY different people go on a grand adventure to stop and great evil from the past who seeks to destroy the world.
>>4136938>as it get called in OldentaleInteresting speculation, that I will not be commenting on.I am dropping out of this conversation now, good day.
>>4136940>Can't speak for anyone else's though.are you suggesting that you are the dev, and just don't want to spoil the situation with other characters? Or is this something that oldentale anon said in the past that I just missed?Either way that's interesting. Holy shit it would be terrifying for Racter watching the sparks of someones blade glinting off his armor.
>>4136916Public nudity is normal for monsters, no one would think anything of it. Except for human bf that can't keep his eyes off the featureless crotch.
>>4136866There isn't even an enchantment, its just a placebo.
>>4136941>>4136945>as I said earlier, but even then, usage of metal doesn't appear to be widespread in monster society at all the way it is in our own.Yeah, but like I said, I think its not crazy to think that in the past some monster might have tried to create a complex machine to enhance his magic and that might have required the use of metallurgy, even if just from trial and error.>I've seen some speculate that monsters can use ingredients to "enhance" the resulting food they conjureThat's the explanation they give in Cooking With Magic, I actually like it, still those "groceries" that Toriel bring a lot of questions about how monster food works.>monster canibalismI guess that could be the case, most monsters seem to be sapient but there are a few ones that are more like animals, like the moldsmal.>dropping out of this conversationSorry, I just thought it would be relevant for the topic at hand.
>>4136949>Except for human bf that can't keep his eyes off the featureless crotch.>featureless crotch.But she isn't a darkner?
>>4136749Don't know if I could reverse the roles on someone who could potentially fold me like a lawn chair, anon.
>>4136952>Sorry, I just thought it would be relevant for the topic at hand.nta but the conversation doesn't have to end, I assume that anon is just taking some discussions in small doses.>I guess that could be the case, most monsters seem to be sapient but there are a few ones that are more like animals, like the moldsmal.it's still reasonable that there are actual animals underground even if the numbers are small. I mean I have a hard time believing a cave that big didn't have ANY creepy crawlies when tthe barrier was sealed up.>That's the explanation they give in Cooking With Magic, I actually like it, still those "groceries" that Toriel bring a lot of questions about how monster food works.I still like the idea that painstakingly made food just hits different.
>>4136919As the anon who wrote the scenario, I would be very interested in seeing your thoughts on this, I’ll anticipate them.
>>4136952>Sorry, I just thought it would be relevant for the topic at hand.It's alright, I'm just letting you know.>>4136955>I assume that anon is just taking some discussions in small doses.No, I'm simply no longer willing to discuss Oldentale specifically in any capacity, at least for the time being.You may continue your discussion with each other as you wish, I am no longer a factor.
>>4136954NTA but the secret is that her heart is the one that will fold like a lawnchair if you start caressing her beak and kissing her sensitive spots. she may even coo with embarrassment, saying it's no fair if you catch her when she was the one about to pounce on you
>>4136876Monsters use tools and weapons when they can't form a bullet needed for a specific task naturally (either because its the wrong type, like trying to cook with snow bullets, or because its too weak). Those can be used as weapons if they make the monster feel more dangerous or help them to focus their attacks mentally (kinda like how jedi don't need to wave their hand around to use the force, but doing so helps them visualize the act better). But there are special magic weapons which channel magic for special effects. Like Asgore's trident, that's a real object that channels magic.>>4136883I thought I was the one that came up with that.>>4136886>what if the weapon only goes away if the monster who created them dies, and that monster is still in the capital?That is a cool idea
>>4136894>>4136898Even if they aren't inherently more effective, the thought still counts, literally, its boosts AT.
>>4136957>No, I'm simply no longer willing to discuss Oldentale specifically in any capacity, at least for the time being.>You may continue your discussion with each other as you wish, I am no longer a factor.sorry, that's effectively what I meant since you gave your thoughts on a conversation that was about it. I'll leave you be on it.
>>4136955>it's still reasonable that there are actual animals underground even if the numbers are small.UTY outright shows you that there are animals on the Underground, like Dina's snakes, and yes, a cave of that size should have all sorts of insects and other small critters.>I still like the idea that painstakingly made food just hits different.I can see most monster preferring to eat some food with actual ingredients instead of eating magic slop, also now that I think about it that system is used in the Sims, your sims can cook with just money, but if you have ingredients in your inventory then they'll use those and that will increase the food's quality.
>>4136900Maybe each platoon has their own attached smith who makes magic weapons, to boost AT
>>4136963>UTY outright shows you that there are animals on the Underground, like Dina's snakesUTY isn't actual UT canon, but I guess it isn't unrealistic that some animals did make it inside the barrier
>>4136959>I thought I was the one that came up with that.It had to be one of us but I feel I was the first to suggest the idea, I remember you showing me some early bronze age swords but I wasn't convinced because the sword in the intro clearly had a crossguard, which were invented much later.
>>4136905Maybe the magic weapon counts as a bullet, and since the average fodder monster's natural bullets are so weak, the only way they can do damage to the average LV human is by using a stronger monster's bullet.
>>4136958Lmao anon, how to hunt your bird gf 101.
>>4136963>UTY outright shows you that there are animals on the Underground, like Dina's snakes, and yes, a cave of that size should have all sorts of insects and other small critters.I know, but I said that because UTY isn't officially canon, but I think dinas snakes make sense.>I can see most monster preferring to eat some food with actual ingredients instead of eating magic slop, also now that I think about it that system is used in the Sims, your sims can cook with just money, but if you have ingredients in your inventory then they'll use those and that will increase the food's quality.now we have video game precedent to work with. the sims, underground edition.
>>4136965>UTY isn't actual UT canon,I know, but I thought we were talking within UTY's canon.
>>4136965The only canon thing about UTY is Clover answering the call.
>>4136906Which joint? His elbow? If you found it, please don't smoke it, he really needs it back.
>>4136967I like that a lot honestly. UTY used that a little with the friendliness pellet bullets if you think about it.>>4136959>Monsters use tools and weapons when they can't form a bullet needed for a specific task naturally (either because its the wrong type, like trying to cook with snow bullets, or because its too weak). Those can be used as weapons if they make the monster feel more dangerous or help them to focus their attacks mentally (kinda like how jedi don't need to wave their hand around to use the force, but doing so helps them visualize the act better). But there are special magic weapons which channel magic for special effects. Like Asgore's trident, that's a real object that channels magic.I like that idea though we don't have official confirmation that asgores trident is real right?I'm not against it. Also the jedi example I think works well.>That is a cool ideait feels kind of fun, and would probably lead to the smith being heavily guarded or at least strong himself.
>>4136953All furries have featureless crotch until its time for sex.
>>4136973He means the joint where he sells 100% real physical weapons and armors.
>>4136962Perhaps, but I only wished to comment on things that had ties to UT itself, which is why I made my points the way I did.>I'll leave you be on it.Thank you.
>>4136918Ignore this if you don't want to reply to it, and consider it a continuation of the broader reply chain.Mettaton seems to be actively avoiding the player in the genocide route, so he might be afraid the player can actually hurt him there. So maybe a human with sufficient LV can harm Mettaton. We also have to consider that Mettaton is a possessed robot, not a monster in armor. We see that the dummy is immortal too until he fuses with his body. So maybe mettaton isn't fully fused, or maybe his body has less magic in it because its a robot.
>>4136981mettaton's external shell isn't completely part of his body, hence why it has infinite defense. it is literally a slab of metalhis "real" body inside though has fully fused to the ghost so its considered a monsterthe reason why mettaton just doesn't use it is because he wants to show off his new body
>>4136934Napstablook owns a snail farm, and that's where Toriel and Asgore got their snails.
>>4136981NTA, but I'll engage with that. I think that high LV humans start kind of warping the rules of things more readily than other humans, possibly because lacking as strong of an attachement to the world, they are more able easily access their bullshit powers.
>>4136981nta, but really, Undertale is really weird about monsters and physical stuff, like you have Undyne suplexing a boulder, which just makes you wonder why monsters just don't chuck heavy physical objects at humans since some of them clearly have super strength.
>>4136981>Ignore this if you don't want to reply to it, and consider it a continuation of the broader reply chain.I appreciate your usage of a disclaimer this time.
>>4136986the truth is that toby didn't think that hard about it, the bane of all autists that seek internal consistency
>>4136986It could be magic boulders
>>4136946I'm saying I don't want to spoil things.
>>4136986NTA, but we don't actually see too many monsters with that kind of strength other than Undyne, and we know she has weird honor rules she abides by when she fights you, which is part of why she gives you the green soul mode with the spear to defend yourself, because she wants you to face her head on at that point, for some reason.This does imply that she intentionally gave you a fighting chance during her Undying fight, on account of her being stupid and refusing to take a cheap victory if it meant saving her entire race.
>>4136992Very fair, sorry I just wasn't sure I was reading you right.
>>4136991Yeah, but then how much of the Underground is just made of magic?>>4136993>other than UndyneThere's Ice Wolf too who also throw huge ice blocks.
>>4136993She doesn't say that she gives you a spear on geno, so I would assume that you either pick up one of hers or it is soul magic
Finally finished the first chapter of my DR/DRY AU fan fiction. Don't expect a coherent plot, it will be vignettes with lots of talking and vagueposting. I mostly did this because I'm dissatisfied with current takes on Kanako, and I wanted to flesh her out as an interesting and flawed character who is not just a sweet demure girl, is different from Susie and Noelle, and is consistent with UTY (though there's not much to work with in there, so I was mostly leaning on Ceroba's portrayal and on her fox aspects). https://rentry.co/sgwry39c
>>4136996>how muchUndyne wouldn't pick up boulders that she can't carry. Maybe there's just one magic boulder that she picks up repeatedly.
>>4136996>There's Ice Wolf too who also throw huge ice blocks.So, two.>>4136997>She doesn't say that she gives you a spear on geno, so I would assume that you either pick up one of hers or it is soul magicYeah, but it's still possible that's what she's doing.She does say "you're gonna have to try harder than that" before she starts fighting you in genocide, so it's possible she still wants an actual fight for some stupid reason.
>>4136998we're just working with some back to back updates and new stuff, aren't we now. I'll read this soon as I can.
>>4136978Hey, they are very real. Just lightly used is all.
>>4136975>I like that idea though we don't have official confirmation that asgores trident is real right?No, I just thought it was cool.>at least strong himself.He'd have to be strong, otherwise there'd be no point in him making the weapons.
>>4136985Well imagine how strong an adult human who's been running the dust mill for a while would be.>>4136986Maybe the boulder becomes a bullet once thrown, and could be dodged.
>>4136999>Maybe there's just one magic boulder that she picks up repeatedly.Shu was right, Undyne IS a fraud.>>4137001>So, two.One of those two is a random civilian, the other royal guards could potentially, maybe, theoretically also have super strength.
>>4136998>foreclosureNice that we got new people making stuff
>>4137005>Maybe the boulder becomes a bullet once thrown, and could be dodged.Actually, I don't dislike this explanation.
>>4137004>He'd have to be strong, otherwise there'd be no point in him making the weapons.oh shit I just had an idea.what if the monster as was said earlier, is lending out his own bullets forged into weapons, but there's a limit. Someone shows up to attack him as the war is turning for the worst, and he can't defend himself. He makes the decision to recall all of his bullets, giving justification for one of those absurdly long pullet patterns as he brings back all the fallen weapons from across all the battlefields.I didn't word it gracefully but either way I'm gonna shill a little known musician I like because of the song namehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIjIEtV-sFY
>>4137006Yes, Shu would pick up two magic boulders instead baka
>>4136998Interesting, I'll give it a read when I can, today seems to have been a very productive day.
>>4137010>4chin autocorrectEughh. Es em eich
Monsters mix iron with magic to create monster alloy (like we do with carbon)
>>4137014That implies "magic" is a unique element with its own atomic structure and associated properties.Kinda reminds me of what Mass Effect did with dark matter, and that was dumb.
>>4136976So Martlet uses magic to hide her assets until it's time to use them. But Zartlet can't for understandable reasons.
>>4136997Maybe geno Frisk is just palming that shit like Darth Vader.
>>4136996>>4137001The two monsters who pick up giant objects in Undertale are buff tomboy women. Coincidence? I think not.
>>4137009>Monster lifts up his hands>Nothing happens>Monster: "Give it a second.">Human: " ... ">Music picks up>Spears begin raining from the sky
>>4137015Magic is its own unique substance which has mass but isn't matter.
>>4137017The same way she uses magic to open a door or walk around. Its just monster biology, which is magic.
>>4136519well, thats was fun. hope to see more.
>>4137044hah, ok yeah I like that. Probably goes with an 8 bit rendition of dvorjaks "from the new world"actually dodging an intense bullet pattern set to that would be fun.
>>4137048I oughta fucking kill you for saying that.
>>4136956So, I was thinking about how I mentioned earlier, Galuf is an inversion of the feeling that deltarune seems to go with most of the time, but not all of its characters. He's very silly at first, and I think of this theme a lot when I think of himhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo06_Ybepq8but he's someone you build up an attachment to over time, and so despite being so silly a lot of the time, it doesn't feel "wrong" when things get serious and you watch him be the real fucking deal. You have plenty of characters who invert silliness and seriousness in ut and dr, but I think it's a bit different with him, and you would want to capitalize on his flavor of it. he's not just "a silly old man" but he's the old man that you aren't bothered or taken aback when he's being silly, but there's a note underneath all of that that makes the final moments punch you in the stomach repeatedly.It's different to me than papyrus who starts silly before getting serious and then silly again, because galufs last stand is genuinely some heroic shit that even shakes exdeath for a moment. it's a less out there silliness I guess because he's a character that shifts into serious moments more easily than someone like papyrus even if papyrus pulls it off well.I guess the point I'm making is, to give it a flavor that feels distinctly "ff5" while making a connection between the two games, lean on the kind of atmosphere galuf helps create for the game in a way. I'm not saying overuse it, but there's something important there with him. also he's a good example of addressing the issue of using healing magic on someone with fatal wounds in RPGs I like to think that they borrowed a little from tellah conceptually when making Galuf, though Galuf is much kinder.anyways sorry if that's incoherent but every time I've seen you and other anons talk about this ff x dr thing I think a lot of Galuf.
>>4137093and I know you're using the DR cast if I understand right, so this means more "spiritually" galuf. Which probably makes even less sense.
>>4136884I have read none of your posts. HOWEVER Exdeath should disguise himself as the tree in front of the Man and bushwhack the party
>>4137074Look, this is fantasy physics, the laws are different here, so the definitions are too. Magic has mass and volume when it wants to, but isn't made of protons and electrons, nor does it contain any positrons, leptons, or quarks. Sometimes it has no mass at all, and seems to gain or lose it arbitrarily.
>>4137101I have had………………. Other ideas using this concept.(Although I guess you could call them more “intrusive thoughts”).
>>4137119So what, Noelle gets possessed by Exdeath?
>>4137114You should probably have censored more of this. It only just came out after all.
>>4137130I did say to not read if they don't want to be spoilered, but fine, let me see if I can delete those posts and repost them.
>>4137114>Libraby anon has a new game to add to the fangames archive.it's already up, though I noticed I got an error when downloading the linux version, but I didn't realize what that meant.
>>4137137oh yeah, I was in the midst of work and haven't had time to play it yet so if the dev has a good descriptor other than the placeholder I've got in there I'll change it up.
>>4136519Alright, I played it, I had fun, spoilers below for those that haven't beaten it yet.Libraby anon has a new game to add to the fangames archive. Also the Linux .rar file is broken, I couldn't open it so I ended up playing the Windows version through wine.The difficulty felt a little higher than DR's chapter 1, but it wasn't anything insane either, I died two times, I fucked around too much trying to see if there was any interaction from running at Bastelect during the first encounter. Speaking of which that entire first encounter was pretty good too, I liked the overworld obstacles.The music choice is good too, except for Lancer's theme for Bastelect, that felt jarring, I hope eventually you can get some original tracks for your game, I wouldn't mind some of the current music staying but that one example should be changed someday.Overall I liked all the bullet patterns in GELtarune, I especially liked the magnetism used by Bast.Humans mutating in the dark world? That's a new one, I wonder what are your intentions with this, also it was cool to see another "normal" human in the dark world, despite him not being very relevantThe tutorial with the strawman was funny, insulting him and not his argument was a dumb joke but it still made me chuckle.I liked the detail of the ACTs being called GELs in this game, same for the "furious" status effect, I wish it were used a bit more in the game, that looked like an interesting alternative to sparing.Kiaos not having an attack button was a weird choice, but I kind of dig the idea of a party member that needs TP to attack. I suppose Bradley and him will get the ability to attack in the full game, even in the areas that were already covered by the demo?1/2
>>4136519>>4137140I thought the puzzles were good they weren't too hard either, but I don't think the full game should have any more of those puddle puzzles, at least not mandatory ones. On that not if you use the arrow to walk back into the last puddle puzzle after finishing it, you can't escape, so your only option is to go back to the main menu, that should be fixed.For the writing, Bastelect was fun, personally the thing I enjoyed the most were those conversations with Kiaos in the puzzle rooms, the showed more of the world and Bradley's past and were good interactions on top of that.I wasn't expecting the town to be so big, I kind of liked it but I wish the Geezas weren't all identical, I guess that's part of the joke but I think there should be a few more variants, other than the ones with hats.The spritework is pretty good for most of the game, the tileset from the dunes area maybe needs some work, the objects from the interiors of the houses definitely do, but that can be excused with this sill being a test demo.Are you going to post this outside of this place?2/2
>>4137123Exdeath has possessed and mind controlled people while being sealed away in a powerful magical seal, I don’t think he needs to do the “splinter rouse” to possess her (especially considering how weak-willed she is) he’d probably try to piggyback off of her and Kris’s “weird route journey” to obtain whatever power lies on the other side (if any).
>>4136998>Anyway, Starlo is my old friend from collegeFlowery is gonna be so jealous>Kris Ketsukanehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lfczBPS4c8I do appreciate the Toriel hate. She deserves more.
>>4137110Just don't make it physics at all if you're not actually going to try and make it even slightly coherent with itself, just leave it at "magic".
>>4137148But the power is all (you). I don't know Exdeath, would he get mad if he realized that power was only for (you) and Noelle, and not him, despite him attempting to take it.
>>4137151Its magic, but its clearly a substance since its what makes up the majority of the solid portion of a monster's body and the entirety of bullets. It also has mass since monsters weight more than a small pile of dust. But it can also change volume and mass at will because we see it do that with the amalgams and Zartlet. We also know its not matter because we're told as much. That's not some incoherent explanation, that's an accurate description of what we see in the game.
>>4137158>its clearly a substance since its what makes up the majority of the solid portion of a monster's body and the entirety of bullets.>We also know its not matter because we're told as much.I'm gonna need you to make up your mind here pal.If it's not matter, it's not a substance. If it's a substance, it's matter.Pick a lane.
>>4137161Light is a particle and a wave
>>4136758Are people really that blase about monsters in Final Fantasy? Are non violent civilized monsters a thing? If not, that doesn't feel like the sort of this you can just handwave away. Maybe Susie would have to wear a disguise like Gorris in fallout 2.If they are, I feel like at least some rude comments about it would be in order. Or at least them getting weird looks.
>>4137165Light also isn't considered matter.
>>4137093>because galufs last stand is genuinely some heroic shit that even shakes exdeath for a moment.I hate to say this, but isn't that like Flowery, or at least what he was attempting to be?
Guys a demo came out, save the niggerfaggot autism fight where you're just lonely and want to yack at people for later, talk about videogames goddamn.Addendum:I liked the Geltarune demo, and was wondering if all the tracks are currently placeholder/unoriginal?
>>4137093I think something important to mention about Galuf is that, in his own world, he is a king greatly respected by all and nobody treats him as a silly old man except for the granddaughter he dotes on. He lived a full life and saved his world once before, but he's still relatively humble and insists on the other party members not calling him King Galuf. He has some idiosyncracies but what really makes him come across as silly early on is his amnesia, something that goes away before the end of the first world. Butz and company just have an unusual first impression of him, and his granddaughter sees him differently on account of being his granddaughter.
>>4137161Well then what do you call something that physically exists, takes up space, interacts with matter, and has mass, but explicitly isn't matter? And don't just say magic, because that doesn't at all communicate any of the traits I just said.
>>4137165>>4137170And it also doesn't have mass, while magic can when it wants to
>>4137177Anon, people are talking about a FF and some harmless hypothetical about magic in UT/DR, there isn't an autism fight, also yeah, the Geltarune demo was good.>was wondering if all the tracks are currently placeholder/unoriginal?Bastelect theme is most certainly a placeholder, I can't see her having Lancer's theme in the final game, there's also a MUSIC_CREDITS.txt files in the game's folder with links to the music used, its mostly music made by pilotredsun, and the battle theme was made by someone called kawashin
>>4137182>Well then what do you call something that physically exists, takes up space, interacts with matter, and has mass, but explicitly isn't matter?Matter that you're being obtuse about.Monsters turn into dust, which is matter. So, instead of saying they're some other thing, say that monsters are made of matter, that happens to be bound together by another force.See, now we're talking like physicists.
>>4137187>people are talking about a FFpeople are talking about a FF5 fanfic*
>>4137177I don't recognize the new tracks, so I think they are original. I think I remember Geltarune anon showing off some music before to get feedback.
>>4137177their discussion seems fine to me.>>4137175you're only taking the context of the sacrifice by itself and not who galuf is through the entire rest of the story, nor in relation to the world. Galuf really sets the tone of ff5 I think. I mean yeah all of the cast matter but galuf really gets the tone in motion.Also flowery's last stand would be more like galufs if [spoler] he kept going after like 8 fatal attacks and won against the knight forcing it to retreat [/spoiler] Galuf was built different.>>4137178your right, but that silliness that he carries on doesn't end up being like "nonsense senile old man" but rather, despite being a king he feels like he's close enough to have shenanigans with the party. That humbleness belies the fact that his goofiness during his amnesia was just him being himself minus memories of his important mission.>and his granddaughter sees him differently on account of being his granddaughter.and also getting to see him in more casual contexts. galuf is a very uh, heartful person? he was certainly the heart of the party which made it make sense for him to be the one to die.
>>4137186Who says magic doesn't have mass any of the time?It could just be counteracted by other forces, such as the force that lets monsters manipulate their projectiles to begin with.If I hold up a baseball with telekinetic force, the baseball seems like it has zero mass, since it's not acting on anything, nor is anything visibly acting on it, but it's actually just in a state of being suspended by another force.Compare it to Einstein's hypothetical of a man falling off a building.
>>4137190the FF conversation is for a deltarune crossover someone is coming up with ideas for and getting feedback for.
>>4137188But that tiny amount of matter isn't where the stuffyness of the monsters comes from. Their volume and their mass (or hell, maybe its just weight, we don't see them in zero g, so we wouldn't know) come mostly from their magic. Its explicitly stated to take the place of water in their biology.I think the existence of such a thing would fundamentally change how physics are viewed, and likely would've caused a radically different definition of the word substance and different classifications based on that.Kinda like how laser in Star Wars ceased to mean "light amplification through simulated emission of radiation" and switched to "plasma weapon using a specific type of gas as ammunition" because of linguistic drift a few thousand years before the events of the movies.
>>4137187>kawashinI think I saw that person listed in the Kristal Engine credits, so it might be an asset that comes with the engine. Could someone go and double check that?
do we even have a number for how much the magic to dust ratio of a monster is?
>>4137193>spolerhaha
>>4137205I have no idea, this is the specific track that gets used as the battle theme in GELtarunehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kuy-tutIFXU
>>4137208you have to understand, I can hardly be considered sentient on a good day.
>>4137203>But that tiny amount of matter isn't where the stuffyness of the monsters comes from.Perhaps the force allowing them to control and propel their projectile attacks is the same force keeping their dust bound together in the forms of their bodies.So, "magic" in that sense isn't a specific particle, but instead a fundamental force with it's own properties.There, "magic" is no longer a kind of matter, but instead something that acts on matter in unique ways that causes them to behave in certain "magical" ways not exhibited otherwise.Happy now?
>>4137167There is actually a precedent for this, there are known non-humans that are notorious mercenaries, and people generally live around magic and magic creatures in this world, and even adapt to crazy changes to the world and with no fuzz, and also coexist with werewolves too, there is even a town where nobody minds literal open fires just laying about, also people in FF5 coexist with dragons drakes and other magical creatures, as long as they don’t show any evil intent, I don’t think anyone will mind, they may even think that Susie is a cool Dragon.
>>4137206>do we even have a number for how much the magic to dust ratio of a monster is?That would require accurate mass values and volume values for the various monsters we see turn to dust in-game, which we don't have.
>>4137194>Who says magic doesn't have mass any of the time?>If I hold up a baseball with telekinetic force, the baseball seems like it has zero mass, since it's not acting on anything, nor is anything visibly acting on it, but it's actually just in a state of being suspended by another force.Mainly that we don't see monsters exhibit the ability to manipulate their mass at will. Except maybe Sans and Papyrus, since Papyrus does do a blue soul jump for a gag in one scene. Other than that, they usually just get limited by what would seem to be some natural mass that they have no control over. Monster Kid wouldn't have been worried about falling if he could just fly.
>>413720632 to 68
>>4137212No, because bullets are 100% magic but they're solid, visible, can be touched, and have mass. That would also imply that the magic is physically touching the matter in their bodies to glue it together, like the water does with chemical bonds in ours.
>>4137216I said "doesn't have mass any of the time".As in, I was asking if there were any instances in which something composed of magic could be verifiably stated to have *zero* mass.The post I was responding to seemed to say that magic is capable of having no mass at all, which I find there to be little evidence for.And before you mention the ghosts, there's a difference between a bunch of dispersed by loosely constrained particles, versus actually lacking mass. They could effectively be composed of extremely loose particles, if we insist on maintaining a scientific view of things here.
>>4137218>and have mass.nta but we don't actually know that about bullets do we? Shouldn't bullets be energy?
>>4137206No, but its apparently comparable to the amount of water to everything else in a human.
>>4137155Where in the game is it ever stated that only (you) can have it? As far as I know nowhere does it say that some bigger power can’t just come over and steal it (again if it even exists)
>>4137221you can hold undyne's spears
>>4137218>No, because bullets are 100% magic but they're solid, visible, can be touched, and have mass.Says who?>That would also imply that the magic is physically touching the matter in their bodies to glue it together, like the water does with chemical bonds in ours.I said nothing of the sort."Magic" could easily be holding monsters together in the same sense that the strong nuclear force holds the atoms of your body together.
>>4137221We see Undyne's spear and Papyrus's bones act like they have mass, falling with gravity and moving with momentum.
>>4137220>And before you mention the ghosts, there's a difference between a bunch of dispersed by loosely constrained particles, versus actually lacking mass. They could effectively be composed of extremely loose particles, if we insist on maintaining a scientific view of things here.How do they phase through solid matter? >As in, I was asking if there were any instances in which something composed of magic could be verifiably stated to have *zero* mass.Any time a monster dies, the magic just disappears, ceasing to have mass.
>>4137225we only actually see the spear in soul mode and it floats in front of your soul. and even then, that could just be a construct of magic held together by an interspersed field of dust giving it frame that annihilates upon meeting of certain conditions.>>4137227seems like they have more mass like properties but their complete annihilation without any consequences makes me think they are neither mass nor energy.>>4137227
>>4136998>>4137011Really nice work, I enjoyed the character interactions especially the one with Kanako, this was pretty well written, also the idea of Kris being more racist than Chujin is funny, how did he even get adopted?>Toriel confiscated my toy gun collection as soon as I got here.What a bitch.
>>4137223It implies it by (you) being a player, thus the only being in the entire game capable of having free will and making actual choices. The characters have no free will and are complete slaves to fate without (you). That's what that whole "you found a way to stop being Kris" line was about, and what all that "create a new future" stuff was.
>>4137228>How do they phase through solid matter?The same way any loose particles do.Or, how the Flash does, take your pick.>any time a monster dies, the magic just disappears, ceasing to have mass.Assuming it had mass to begin with. If it's a fundamental force, rather than a specific material, then it has no mass, in the same sense that "gravity" isn't a specific material, and is instead a force emitted by things with mass.
>>4137229>we only actually see the spear in soul mode and it floats in front of your soulfrisk holds the spear during undyne's date in the overworld
>>4137229>we only actually see the spear in soul mode and it floats in front of your soul.nta, Frisk uses one of Undyne's spear to point at stuff during the date with Undyne.
>>4137237>>4137236ah you're right, however frisks arms are solidly at his side during that. He could just be willing it around just like in the fight. Yes sure you could say toby was too lazy to bother giving frisk proper sprites, but he doesn't actually hold the spear.
>>4137226>Says who?They leave no dust, and don't behave like solid matter, or any matter when they don't want to. Like orange and blue bullets, or green bullets.>I said nothing of the sort.I didn't say you did.>"Magic" could easily be holding monsters together in the same sense that the strong nuclear force holds the atoms of your body together.This is all beside the point. You were the one who said you didn't want to get scientific with it, then you started bringing all this stuff out, when I offered the simple answer of "its a substance because in the fantasy of Undertale substance means something different".
>>4137239NTA, but that's actually a damn good point.
>>4137229>we only actually see the spear in soul modeWe're talking about the one in the date. You pick that one up and swing it around.> that could just be a construct of magic held together by an interspersed field of dust giving it frame that annihilates upon meeting of certain conditions.I also doesn't turn to dust when it goes away.>seems like they have more mass like properties but their complete annihilation without any consequences makes me think they are neither mass nor energy.Which I think the existence of which, and its apparent ability to seemlessly interface with and function as both, would naturally cause a different set of definitions and system of classification.
>>4137241>They leave no dustThey could simply have less dust to leave. Can't see individual molecules, after all.>You were the one who said you didn't want to get scientific with it, then you started bringing all this stuff outYou were the one who started bringing sub-atomic particles into this, not me.>when I offered the simple answer of "its a substance because in the fantasy of Undertale substance means something different".Okay, don't turn this into a "ooh, I tried to be reasonable" situation, knock that off.Pretty sure I have a good idea of who you are now, so I'll be withdrawing from this, for obvious reasons.Don't make this a repeat of previous instances, please.
>>4137239>>4137242I disagree, Toby just didn't animate it since he didn't have the budget then like he does now with DR being overanimated. Frisk is just a regular human AFAWK so he has no powers or telekinesis. The simplest solution is just holding the spear.
>>4137235>Or, how the Flash does, take your pick.I don't think Napstablook is tapping into the speed force.>The same way any loose particles do.Its not loose though, its still a solid collection of particles, just only solid for ghosts or when it wants to touch you. >. If it's a fundamental force, rather than a specific material, then it has no mass, in the same sense that "gravity" isn't a specific material, and is instead a force emitted by things with mass.You can't be made of gravity, but monsters are directly stated to be made of magic, which would imply that it is a substance (not the scientific definition, but the concept as the layman understands it) that exists physically, takes up space, and can be interacted with.
>>4137245>Don't make this a repeat of previous instances, please.Ok.
>>4137244>We're talking about the one in the date. You pick that one up and swing it around.yeah I had the error of my ways pointed to me, but still I mentioned in>>4137239you don't actually hold it.>I also doesn't turn to dust when it goes away.I imagine that to be able to fling around that much magic, very little dust would be used per bullet. >Which I think the existence of which, and its apparent ability to seemlessly interface with and function as both, would naturally cause a different set of definitions and system of classification.so then an additional state or strange matter >>4137246look yeah it's fair to say that toby didn't bother, but you can't say that and then also not acknowledge that toby probably didn't consider 90 percent of this right? I mean, magic bullets annihilating without any consequence or effect despite somehow being matter is already a massive problem
>>4137250Thank you.
Is there anything else we can talk about? Like anything else anyone has to say about GELtarune? Or that new fic? Or that FF5 thing?
>>4137266>Like anything else anyone has to say about GELtarune?Look man, people can't talk about it forever, it's proportional to the amount of meat it has on its bones. I'm not knocking it, I'm just saying, not everyone's gonna wanna talk about the same one thing here.
>>4137266I said some stuff about the ff5 thing, but didn't get a reply back. I haven't had time to play geltarune, and in the same vein of the geltarune, haven't had time to read that fic. working on it.also why are you so fervent about this? The parties involved backed away willingly.
>>4137267It doesn't have to be that, it can be anything.
>>4137266I talked about all of those already, I enjoyed the Geltarune demo for what it had, it showed potential, there's some interesting lore implications there, but not everyone has played it already, I gave my input on the FF5 discussion but I never played the game, and I thought the DR/DRY fic was pretty well written.
>>4137271we were talking just like 5 seconds ago my dude. bring up a thing or respond to one of the people talking about something if thats what you want so much.
>>4137271I dunno, it's late, not exactly brimming with new conversation topics.Besides, if it can be "anything", why not just let those guys keep talking? I myself already backed out, I don't see why they can't keep talking if they want.
>>4137269>I said some stuff about the ff5 thing, but didn't get a reply back.What did you say? Maybe I didn’t see your post.
>>4137278it was this post. >>4137193technically got a "reply" back pointing out my multi generational shame of typoing. I'm not butthurt about it, I'm just saying if that topic or another topic is what you're interested in, there are posts to engage with. Pretty sure there was someone who said a whole lot about GELtarune up above that could be responded to as well.I sadly may have to wait until the weekend to play it for myself.
>>4137193I haven't played ff5 so I wouldn't know. The description you gave just sounded a bit similar. Does make me wonder if Toby was referencing it there though.
>>4137282>Does make me wonder if Toby was referencing it there thoughhonestly that's very fair, and we know that toby pulled a lot of stuff from snes games (woo lufia 2). I'd say though that flowery and galuf definitely don't have the same kind of personalities.
I still like the idea from earlier of specially physically crafted swords or other types of weapons in the olden times. I think it could be fun to play with.
Found this Bastelect art on the Noz.
>>4137287cute, what's she gonna get at home depot?
>>4137140>also it was cool to see another "normal" human in the dark world, despite him not being very relevantWhere? I'm in the town but didn't see it, unless it is in a house I didn't happen to go in
hearing about GELtarune having an actual town has me excited to see what it's up to.
>>4137289 in jail >>4137288 nails
>>4137193Ah I see I did see your posts, but I never saw a need to reply because I pretty much agree with everything you say so my reply would probably boil down to *nod* *nod*
>>4137287Hope sig draws her someday, she's cute.>>4137288>cute, what's she gonna get at home depot?From what she said in game an infinite supply of ammo (nails, nuts and bolts)
>>4137293fair enough, if you're the person who was writing for the FF5 stuff earlier, I wasn't sure if you'd seen it or not since you seemed interested.Either way if you are or are not the person, ff5 is pretty neat. lost my save data near the end of the fucking game twice so I've never officially beaten it
>>4137290What's stopping you from seeing right now? You working some unreasonably late night shift? If so you're already living the Bradley Geltarune experience.
>>4137287what object is she supposed to be anyway
>>4137297She's a plugboy, which means she could have a werewire form.
>>4137296worked-ed all day, too tired to pull out the machine I'd play it on and get set up. I am quit so very tired.But I am really looking forward to playing it. It's insane to me how much stuff got dropped today.
>>4137294>Hope sig draws her someday, she's cute.I hope Sig draws a werewire form of her, because we both know she's gonna end up getting one being the kind of darkner she is. And I hope he gives it Sig proportions
>>4137298Ok, but what about Bastet were-werewire form sexo?
>>4137300>And I hope he gives it Sig proportionsI hope he draws both forms of her, Sig draws good shortstacks too.>>4137303>Zenith Bastelect
>>4137304>>Zenith Bastelectnta but you have my attention.
>>4137304>Zenith No, were-werewire is its own vibe. A lot more monstrous, a lot less prestigious. Its basically werewolf^2, which means its super monstrous and borderline feral in its mannerisms. Plus it'd be a lot more leg centric that tit focused.
>>4137295>fair enough, if you're the person who was writing for the FF5 stuff earlierI am indeed that guy, and btw the next part of my little draft (it’s less of a fic and more of a blueprint for something I’m never gonna make) will be the journey up north mountain which has two moments in particular that I’m interested in adapting in this scenario.>spoilerI’ve finished FF5 multiple times and thoroughly recommend it, you’re doing yourself a disservice by not finishing it, and it’s one of the most replayable JRPGs ever made, if you’ve never done a “four job fiesta” I suggest you try it, it’s seriously some of the most fun I’ve ever had playing a JRPG, there are websites you can use to randomize the four jobs you’ll get.
>>4137308>I’ve finished FF5 multiple times and thoroughly recommend it, you’re doing yourself a disservice by not finishing it, and it’s one of the most replayable JRPGs ever made, if you’ve never done a “four job fiesta” I suggest you try it, it’s seriously some of the most fun I’ve ever had playing a JRPG, there are websites you can use to randomize the four jobs you’ll get.oh I know it's a great game. I just, had a like 4 year span where every time I started a jrpg I'd have my saves deleted near the end for DIFFERENT FUCKING REASONS EACH TIME.I know what happens but I just didn't have the will to start over again.happened in ff4, 6, 8, legend of dragoon, smt nocturn and some others I'm sure I can't remember. Anyways I'll go back to it some day.>I am indeed that guy, and btw the next part of my little draft (it’s less of a fic and more of a blueprint for something I’m never gonna make) will be the journey up north mountain which has two moments in particular that I’m interested in adapting in this scenariowell, whether you decide to dev it or make it a fic, I'm interested enough to hear you out when you do. Just been really busy so if I don't catch your post immediately I'll get to it when I can.
>>4137311>well, whether you decide to dev it or make it a fic, I'm interested enough to hear you out when you do. Just been really busy so if I don't catch your post immediately I'll get to it when I can.Thanks I appreciate it.>happened in ff4, 6, 8, legend of dragoon, smt nocturn and some others I'm sure I can't remember. Anyways I'll go back to it someday.WOW that is some rotten luck, you may ACTUALLY be cursed,
>>4137313>WOW that is some rotten luck, you may ACTUALLY be cursed,the ff4 one happened right after a friend called me and said wouldn't it be funny if after all the time you spent on it your data got wiped?I suspect either inadvertent curses or malicious hexes.
>>4137314NTA, but you should simply place protective crystals around your setup to protect from psionic attacks the next time you play.Or just kill your friend so he can't erase your data again, whatever works.
>>4137317Perhaps even both. The nuclear option in save data protection.
>>4137321Kill him with the crystals, to be safe.
>>4137324the secret technique pass down by Zaer (literally he handed it to you).
>>4137326Ah, of course, a legendary technique capable of overpowering even the strongest warriors.Val should know that well, of course.
>>4137328I feel like Val just got angry somewhere.
>>4137329If it works, it works.
>>4137294post some refs and i will consider it, cant play the demo myself just yet
>>4137328So when are we gonna meet the fire hydrant and elephant bosses?
>>4137331Had to open the game to get these ones, I don't know if there's a way to extract assets from Kristal.
>>4137337Once we get more of UTN, trust.
>>4137337After the building and the bullet bosses.
>>4137348Technically, we already fought a bunch of overgrown bullets. That's what those stage hazards were.
>>4137353My god...Does that mean we-
>>4137353We would still be missing the building, fire hydrant, elephant and on top of that there's still Gero's door and DBS:Broly's Ice.
>>4137339Nta but she's such a cutie. Peak design.
>>4137357Door-Sama will be the secret boss
>>4137355Yes
>>4137119Exdeath dragging Noelle into his void obsession mite b cool
>>4137348Val not beating Don Quixote allegations
>>4135591TR!Underfell update: https://gamejolt.com/p/october-2026-a-long-overdue-update-gknk5cbmThey've been having a rough few months but slowly progressing. They could still use some help with art (concept/promo), programming (Gamemaker), social media management, and translation. Application link if interested: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdl4GREcs-y3vA57-u9uc6alXO3n-gi7gj3YRPgwhX-LYDGeA/viewform?usp=sharing&ouid=109816731522623007196
>>4137432Post the application link for Lostworld or whatever the fuck that Underswap AU with Aqua is called.
>>4136346>Is Sa'ni equipped with the unhinged tendencies and lust for secrets like Minä?Probly. He's got a Kindness soul so I imagine he's going a little screwy in the bad guy route, especially if you're good at his magic. Ollie-ing off a handcart to surf into the jungle from the devil's climb is a thing I can see him doing.>Wonders and/or horrors for the inquisitiveWonders I hope, ye. Horrors,Horror is subjectivealso I am bed goodinight>>4136818a witch
>>4137447I would, but I don't know which project you're referring to; sorry.
>>4137404>KRIS!>we’ll obtain it together!>we’ll find it together!>we will get to that place and reach it!>THE POWER OF THE VOID!>ha ha>hahahaha>MWA-HAHAHAHA
Geltafell
>>4136998Good stuff anon. Loving the banter between Cole and Kanako so far, I think you did a nice job with their dynamic. Also looking forward to seeing more of this version of Kris
I got three hours of sleep, my computer scared the shit out of me by booting into diagnostic mode at first for seemingly no reason, and my exhausted brain keeps flashbanging me with the mental image of huffing Quetzali's shoes. Happy Friday everyone.
>>4137514>brain keeps flashbanging me with the mental image of huffing Quetzali's shoes.Val...
>>4137514The fuck?
>>4137529Don't know what needs explaining here, seems pretty straightforward to me.
>>4137494Bradley goes postal
>>4135591Momroba
>>4137533Why is Susie randomly there and why is Roba wearing Cole's clothes? What kinda mishmash is this.
>>4137550>he didn't notice
>>4137556Notice what, anon?
>>4137550
>>4137564look at Roba's hair
>>4137533Right, I'll just be killing myself then.
>>4137569WHO WINS IN A FIGHT,TINY COLEOR AN ACTUAL CAN OF COKE
>>4137570NTA, but I read the reply chain up to here, then looked at her hair, and audibly said "oh for fuck's sake".Who keeps making these?
>>4137424You could have a monster called Quiyote that's a coyote in knight armor which is vehemently convinced that it is a boss monster and the final boss of the game, and have it be a common enemy or miniboss.
>>4137469>a witchfrom?
>>4137533That artstyle has dealt psyhic damage to me, why do people even draw like that?
>>4137579This but he convinced himself that he is actually a human
>>4137580fugging finland veli :DDD
>>4136837Why does racter always look so scared?What is he, chicken?
>>4137584A yellow bellied one
>>4137569>>4137570Words are not enough to express my unease upon seeing that. I wished to remain ignorant of such things, anons.
>>4137589There's an entire fanfic of micro Cole in Roba's hair exploring dark worlds, I'm not joking you can see it on the DRY's R*ddit.
>>4137590Well, I'm glad I've never put foot in that subreddit, now I know I won't ever. I'm past questioning why, cause there are some things that have no answer.
>>4137590NTA, but does the person writing it acknowledge that it's a fetish, or do they try and play innocent about it?
>>4137533
>>4137597Is this actually related to those other images of micro Kris and Ceroba and Martlet, or is that a weird coincidence?Because those images also did weird things with hair and licking.
Recreating the UT battle system is surprisingly easy, nearly every option works now. I'm stumped on what items to give the player though, I want them to be thematically relevant instead of just L. Heros, etc. Any suggestions?Also, how do people go about creating attacks? Each is their own separate scene but I don't know whether to use something like an AnimationPlayer node to control the bullets' movement, or hard code each individual bullet behavior.
>>4137595I haven't seen enough of their posts to tell, but I'm pretty sure they play innocent, they always explain why Cole is tiny in their story and why he hides in Roba's hair when asked.
>>4137614>they always explain why Cole is tiny in their story and why he hides in Roba's hair when asked....And why is that, if you would be so kind as to enlighten us?
>>4137533>>4137569>>4137576You know, this has me thinking about how communities get so uncomfortable about even the most basic NSFW like how people will post that same "Doe he know" type of stuff about someone posting Sigs SFW art, but will put their heads in the sand when blatant fetish stuff like this pops up in front of them. I don't know, I'm hardly awake right now but there's something I'm noticing about these "innocent" fetishes that bothers me.Maybe it's that it gets posted in spaces with kids while people act like paragons of virtue.
>>4137605>I don't know whether to use something like an AnimationPlayer node to control the bullets' movement, or hard code each individual bullet behavior.depends of how complex it is, use whatever method fits the bullet best instead of limiting yourself to only doing one or the other, mix and match if you need
>>4137617He says that it is a human monster detachment syndrome
>>4137617It's just an excuse for his barely disguised fetish
>>4137618He gives me the same vibes as MD
>>4137618This isn't an obvious fetish for those that don't have a medium to high degree of internet poisoning.It's like those old cartoons having all the fetishes the writers had in their minds back then but people just laughed it off due to how absurd it was, but when you go back and watch again now that you are more aware you can see all of it.
>>4137628I was thinking that as I typed it, but I avoided saying it. Yes it has the same kind of "haha it's not actually a fetish!" energy.
>>4137633>This isn't an obvious fetish for those that don't have a medium to high degree of internet poisoning.hmm, maybe so, but I think Cole being naked and licked my Martlet and Ceroba push the boundary on that a bit.Like the one image where both martlet and cerobas tongues are on him as they seemingly argue over him? Come on It can't just be my internet poisoning that makes me notice "Hey this is weird.">It's like those old cartoons having all the fetishes the writers had in their minds back then but people just laughed it off due to how absurd it was, but when you go back and watch again now that you are more aware you can see all of it.subliminal fetish-mancy.
>>4137633It gives me uncanny creepy vibes on a subconscious level. I think most people just try to ignore it as not to be impolite.
>>4137628Somehow these feels more creepy because it's disguised as this innocent thing, when it's clearly not. At least the other fetish wasn't posted in a kids space so casually like this, and was contained here. What the hell are reddit posters on?
>>4137617I don't remember the exact details, it was something along the lines of Cole having an illness called HMDS >>4137626 it makes him weak if he isn't close to a monster, in the dark worlds this translates to him being tiny, also since he has some sort of bond to Ceroba she gets his dark world clothes and powers, and since he needs to stay next to a monster to fight his illness they put him in Roba's hair, yeah its that contrived
>>4137605They all are tools, physics_process movement, tweens, animation nodes, line2D, polygons, markers, use whatever you think its the right tool for the job or what makes your life easier, most of the time physics_process is enough for the basic bullet patterns you see in bullet hell games, the other methods I mentioned can be used for more complex patterns
>>4137618I don't think any fetish is really "innocent" it's just that for some reason some people choose to ignore what it is, especially when nothing explicit is shown, but you can still see it for what it is.
>>4137650Did cole need to be naked for this to happen?
>>4137650>I don't think any fetish is really "innocent"that's why it was in quotes. You've got people freaking out because WOAH DUDE, YOU KNOW THAT GUY MAKES (relatively tame) NSFW??and then someone who makes some really fucking off the wall stuff gets responses of "awww how cute!"
>>4137646How long until we get Naranja fetish people?
>>4137639>Like the one image where both martlet and cerobas tongues are on him as they seemingly argue over him?When was that posted? I didn't see it on the reddit
>>4137640I find it ironic that the apparently innocent stuff like this Ceroba image is the most creepy, especially with how it's just posted in a public space and people are just okay with it.
>>4137656Anon, we already have people right here talking about how much they want to drink Luzma's whilk or how they want to get constricted by Quetzali, I know because I'm one of them
>>4137657Months ago, I apologize but I'm not up for digging through months of reddit posts but I saw it there when looking for art, before I saw it here. considering I posted it here after seeing it there, and deleted my post when someone told me what else they suspect that artist makes
>>4137653I don't freaking know, and I don't want to know, just seeing the image was enough.
>>4137653Please understand, his HMDS made him tiny but his clothes kept their size
>>4137656I could've sworn people wanted to see Bedo or Luzma be pregnant, or there being talks of drinking their breastmilk.
>>4137664>or there being talks of drinking their breastmilk.absolutely. An anon even drew a series of images based around that.>I could've sworn people wanted to see Bedo or Luzma be pregnantI mean I'd get either one of them pregnant but I don't think conversation has really gone that way with them yet. Mucho focus on their tummies though.
>>4137664>talks of drinking their breastmilk.You DON'T want to drink their breastmilk?
>>4137664>>4137665>>4137666There was that whole conversation about hyper pregnant Quetzali
>>4137668oh yeah there was that. A conversation that went back and forth between fetish posting, and jokes about Vals snake children becoming an army.
>>4137533That kanako looks weird, real life foxes aren't that blocky
This is part three of the FF5 pseudo Deltatraveler scenario that I’ve been working on, brainstorming ideas for how to structure this one has been equally the most fun but also the hardest to think,I hope that I at least did an adequate job in the end.Music of this area would be a remix of thishttps://youtu.be/aFUPHdIbF9E?is=HzZWBzGX1oTuY8yJThis ost kicks ass btwThe journey to climb the north mountain will be a difficult one, some of the most challenging ordeals the team has faced.The enemies that reside in the mountain will be hefty and will inflict debilitating status effects like poison, blindness, and more dangerously petrify.Most of the enemies are fully pacifiable with the exception of the headstone enemies (they are literal animated headstones that may not actually even be alive) who you must destroy to win.There will be poisonous plants scattered across the mountain acting as a stage hazard that will poison the entire party if touched (stocking up on status healing items will be important).Hiking across the mountain most of the party will be cautious, but Susie eager to help out the injured wind drake will be visibly concerned, and will try to hurry up the pase.Once they make it near the summit they will see an out of place blue helmet laying in the distance, thinking it’s a clue to the whereabouts of the wind drake, Susie will run ahead to inspect it, only to be caught by surprise by a poisonous arrow from a hidden location.She will be ambushed by the bandit poacher Magissa who will admit to wanting to poach the wind drake and sell its horns in the black market, and now expresses a desire to take Susie as a trophy as well.The rest of the team quickly moves forward to get between them and protect their friend, from the dangerous bandit, so Magissa finally decides to kill them to take the prize, initiating the boss fight against her.1/4
>>4137675Magissa’s boss fight will have two phases and they will be very distinct.Phase one will have her solo as a heavy-hitting magic user with some status effects to trip you out.This phase will be relatively simple but not necessarily easy, it will just be a straightforward fight against her.Once she reaches half health, she will start phase two by calling her, husband? Forza who will change the dynamic of the fight completely.Forza will be a heavy-hitting physical attacker with medium health, he will automatically take any hit directed at Magissa acting as a shield of sorts.Magissa will also heal him with magic at a faster rate than you can hurt him, so you must use ACTS to interrupt her healing.Forza cannot be killed and will be DOWNED when his health reaches zero, but this will leave Magissa vulnerable to attack until he revives himself.The cycle of interrupting Magissa, DOWNING Forza and attacking has to be repeated until Magissa is defeated.After the fight, Magissa will use a spell to blind the party, followed by Forza taking her into his arms and escaping with a giant leap, leaving the gang free to advance into the summit.Once in the summit of the north mountain they will come face to face with the wind drake who is laying in a bed of grass surrounded by poisonous flowers, the dragon is resting and is visibly debilitated by its injuries, but raises its head to acknowledge the presence of the party.2/4
>>4137676As they approach the beast Susie lays a hand on it and they lock eyes for a moment, some kind of acknowledgment is shared between the two and the wind drake gestures towards the purple poisonous flowers where they see the glint of a piece of tall green grass.The dragon grass that can heal the wind drake rests behind the poisonous flowers, Susie gazes at it, turns to face the wind drake and gives it a nod before turning to face her friends.She explains what they must do, one of them must walk through the poison to acquire the dragon grass.After some discussion you will be presented with a choice, “get the dragon grass” or “don’t risk it” regardless of your choice Susie will take the initiative first and will walk ahead and power through the flowers before anyone can do anything.She struggles for a bit but she succeeds in acquiring the dragon grass and taking it to the other side she almost collapses but Kris and Noelle catch her before she falls, she will then resolutely walk towards the wind drake and feed it the dragon grass before collapsing.The grass successfully rejuvenates the wind drake and the creature proceeds to lower its head towards Susie, closing its eyes and with a flash of light and a surge of magic it completely heals her as a gesture of thanks.Susie stands up and the Wind Drake roars triumphantly, the party acknowledges that its offering to help them travel to get to the bottom of the problems ailing the land.After considering and discussing it for a moment the party climbs onto the Drake and they fly towards the horizon, The sky’s the limit.The moment they start to fly a Deltarune rendition of this song will play:https://youtu.be/cyz3bQDmd9A?is=GwjPiSN5btvzK6DrIt’s very thematically important.PART3 END.3/4
>>4137661There's a particular image with DRY Martlet and Cole, that I'm sure this artist drew that made me question my faith in humanity. If you know, you know.
>>4137678FINAL THOUGHTSI think you can tell this is the part of the game I was most interested in adapting, some parts could have been handled better and I may have gotten a bit overzealous at times with maybe just a bit too much dramatic writing, but I hope it turned out okay and I didn’t get too carried away.As always I welcome whatever questions or criticisms you may have for this, I hope this is proving entertaining at the very least.4/4
>>4137665>absolutely. An anon even drew a series of images based around that.I sure did.
>>4137661NTA, but I'm like 99% sure whoever's behind this has *some* connection to those fart/scat images, they share some themes.Maybe they commissioned them, I didn't care to look at them long enough to analyze their art style, if you can believe that.I think the Ceroba scat one is in the same style though, based on how much of it I saw against my will.
>>4137646I so badly want someone to go to the subreddit and point out how this is all obviously a fetish, just to see how they react. I'm genuinely curious if they're self-aware enough to realize that themselves, or if they somehow don't see it.
>>4137660>constricted by QuetzaliThat's not really a fetish. Unless hugging is a fetish
>>4137691Why don't you go? Seeing as you're the one suggesting it.
>>4137656What are we counting as being particularly weird fetish stuff?Because I think I've done a decent bit of that with Luzma already by now, depending on what counts.
>>4137695Literally anything can be turned into a fetish.
>>4137695Fair, but I guess it depends on how they talk about it>huggingIt probably is for someone out there
>>4137697That would require me to make a reddit account, and also to make a post on reddit.*And* for the post I make to be on *that* subreddit.I don't want to do any of those things.
>>4137698Breastfeeding is a fetish, its just a pretty common one, tickling is a fetish too, I think it falls under the "weird" territory but I would place it low on the freakyness scale
>>4137698Either the images flew over everyone's heads, or they weren't counted as being "weird".
>>4137699Is liking a modest bust a fetish? Is being attracted to women a fetish?I remember people tried to cancel UTW for boob fetish (the characters had like 1 pixel boobs)
>>4137711>Is liking a modest bust a fetish? Is being attracted to women a fetish?Yes and yes.
>>4137706>tickling is a fetish too, I think it falls under the "weird" territory but I would place it low on the freakyness scaleHm, fair.I guess I'm simply too normal to be considered a true freak.What a shame.
>>4137708Eh, maybe a bit of both.Nothing I did with her was ever super popular, but I don't think they were off-putting enough to stick in anyone's brains in the same way as some other images.
>>4137714It isn't? It doesn't fall under the definition >>Is being attracted to women a fetish?>Yes and yesAnon... I think you might be homosexual...
>>4137719Liking breasts regardless of the size is a fetish. So is liking certain kinds of women.
>>4137721>Liking breasts regardless of the size is a fetish.NTA, but I literally like men and this is the gayest shit I've ever heard.
>>4137718I don't think any art of the original characters here was super popular, though if I'm being honest I did find some of the images you drew off-putting, mainly Luzma's milk looking like oil.
>>4137721what did he mean by this.>>4137727that was the best part you philistine! because then you can oil her tits with her own breast whilk
>>4137727Hey, I asked people here what color they wanted her whilk according to this chart, and people said they wanted it dark. I listened to the people.
>>4137727Nta, but I thought that was hot, it was a continuation of the "whilk" jokes about Luzma lactating alcohol
>>4137730>>4137733Hey you guys are free to like it, I just found it weird and off-putting.
>>4137735>he doesn't want to cook breakfast using Luzmas breast oilNGMI
>>4137742It's not oil, it's alcohol, that was the entire point of the image, it being oil makes no sense and doesn't fit the "-ilk" joke.
>>4137742Ah fucking hell, now I'm imagining it actually. Her quivering as you squeeze her breast oil into the pan, then eating the meal in front of her.>>4137743no I know, just running with the tangent for a second because my brain is rotted out of my god damn skull.
>>4137742That just makes it sound even weirder.
>>4137746Eh, I think it being oil is less fun.
Quetzali is a snake oil saleswoman
>>4137742Okay I'll admit that does sound off-putting.
>>4137749it is, but I had to get that idea of Luzma being "very" involved, out of my head. I'm not here to replace the Whilk.
>>4137675>>4137676>>4137678>>4137681Seeing how much poison there would be on the area I think Susie or Noelle should have an spell that heals it, or there should be an specific enemy that gives Kris an ACT that lets you heal your party members, using just status healing items sounds too plain, unless there's a limited number of them or they are expensive.I like the gimmick of having to down one to hurt the other, I guess you should save TP before downing the first boss otherwise you won't deal much damage once its time to attack the healer.>may have gotten a bit overzealous at times with maybe just a bit too much dramatic writingI didn't think it was too dramatic, maybe only a bit for the Susie part with the wind drake.
>>4137752>I'm not here to replace the Whilk.Good.
>>4137644Is the subreddit a kids' space?
>>4137746>now I'm imagining it actually. Her quivering as you squeeze her breast oil into the pan,Hot!>then eating the meal in front of her.Okay that's weird but I kind of see your vision if you want to weird her out.
>>4137756It has a lot of underage people and doesn't allow NSFW, so I guess
>>4137751>>4137747yes but I thought about it and had to let my inner freak take the wheel for a moment.>>4137758>Okay that's weird but I kind of see your vision if you want to weird her out.yes that second part is definitely weirder, but her being embarrassed the whole time does intrigue me. really the part of her quivering is the best part and you don't need it to be oil for that to work
>>4137618These kind of fetishes come from deviantart, which traditionally was sexually repressive towards anything vanilla while allowing bizarre paraphilias because those weren't obviously sexual to uncaring advertisers. Then kids end up getting exposed to this shit as their first sexual experience and made weird by it, because its the only thing they can get access to before they have a chance to learn about actual porn. Some move on to actual porn sites, but some stay behind and end up developing this sort of stealth exhibitionist habit with it. Then you add on the modern problem of pearl clutchers taking over what was previously the very sexually open liberal movement, so now they hate anything straight or traditionally attractive, while allowing anything that isn't, leading to the only open straight sexuality being stuff like this that's impossible to even perceive as such if you aren't also a freak who regularly rubs shoulders with other freaks.
>>4137760>yes that second part is definitely weirder, but her being embarrassed the whole time does intrigue me. NTA, but you could still probably weird her out if she still lactates whilk, by just collecting some of it and then using it to make one of those dishes that require some amount of alcohol, and eating *that* in front of her.Oil's oil, that's less specific. Using her whilk to make a dish that *requires* alcohol is more precise.
>>4137633>It's like those old cartoons having all the fetishes the writers had in their minds back then but people just laughed it off due to how absurd it was, but when you go back and watch again now that you are more aware you can see all of it.You could've just said Totally Spies, we all knew who you meant.
>>4137759I've been debating getting rid of the guy.
>>4137763sure fuck it, that works. Cooking something then asking her to come over and help you for a second. You start lifting her shirt as she calls you an idiot and asks what you're doing but doesn't stop you and then you start massaging her breasts as you cook.Hmm, strangest thing I've ever found hot I think.
>>4137656We have fetish people, we just don't have any barely disguised fetish people. Everyone here is open about how freaky they are because 4chan is sex pest central.
>>4137768>sure fuck it, that works. Cooking something then asking her to come over and help you for a second. You start lifting her shirt as she calls you an idiot and asks what you're doing but doesn't stop you and then you start massaging her breasts as you cook.Heh, nice.>Hmm, strangest thing I've ever found hot I think.You must have a very low scale, but to each their own.I was thinking of doing something with Luzma's whilk again sometime, maybe I could base it off this, loosely.
>>4137768>spoilerunf
>>4137668And about rapid pregnancy, can't forget that.
>>4137769>because 4chan is sex pest central.you know, I was thinking about this the other day, and also thinking about how I saw someone talking about how 4chan grooms people.But honestly is sex pest really the right word for it? We keep our stuff to ourselves, and reject minors even posting here, whereas other communities can barely hide their desire to act inappropriate around kids.Are we really sex PESTS if we keep things where they should be?
>>4137769>we just don't have any barely disguised fetish people.Nah, that one drawfag used to samefag to praise his own work and say that it hardly even counted as fetish material sometimes, he seemed to be pretty defensive of himself.Though I guess he doesn't count as an anon around here anymore, heh.
>>4137771>You must have a very low scale, but to each their own.I'm sure my scale is just nonsensical.>I was thinking of doing something with Luzma's whilk again sometime, maybe I could base it off this, loosely.I am, quite interested.
>>4137775nta, we can be real weirdos but we usually keep to ourselves, and when someone tries being dishonest about their barely disguised fetish we call them out.
>>4137779that sounds right, so I guess that's why the word "sex pest" feels wrong to me in this case.We also usually have more restraint about cutting off some of these conversations from time to time than I think your average internet creep does.
>>4137716>a true freak.This is making me imagine a fetish Broly out there somewhere, who puts everyone else's freakiness to shame.
>>4137782That would probably be the guys into toilet stuff, sorry to say.Maybe going all out isn't worth it.
>>4137776Pretty sure at some point he just came to except it for what is.>Though I guess he doesn't count as an anon around here anymore, heh.No he still does. Him not being here for now doesn't change that. But that's a topic I'm not getting into.
>>4137750Money is money
>>4137785>Pretty sure at some point he just came to except it for what is.>No he still does.Anon, I'm gonna be real with you.You can't be talking about this guy while making mistakes like that.But yeah, let's leave it, eh?
>>4137783It would probably be the guy who's into some of those crimes against nature that were in the catbox roulette, you must reject your humanity in order to ascend (descend) into that level of freakiness
>>4137727>Luzma's milk looking like oil.Wasn't that the point? Although I guess not liking the point is the same issue people have with other fetish art, so maybe that isn't contradictory.>>4137732A real man of the [PIPIs], a real [PIPIs] person, and we thank you for it.
>>4137781We usually cut of conversations when it's clear it's becoming problematic for the thread, or pushing all over conversations to the side cause two or three people can't shut up or let something go.
>>4137750Is that like selling bathwater, but for snake girls?
>>4137787>But yeah, let's leave it, eh?I'd love nothing more.
>>4137759I think general audience might be the proper term. Kids space usually means adults aren't meant to be there.
>>4137793I'm sure you would.
>>4137790
>>4137788I'm sorry but those guys are in a darkness that can't be explained.
>>4137798the greater(lesser) voidbeasts. God save us.
>>4137790So basically autistic arguments.
>>4137768hot
>>4137790Interesting to reply with the same thing he said, but with an added bit about "letting things go".Got something on your mind?
>>4137754> Seeing how much poison there would be on the area I think Susie or Noelle should have an spell that heals it, or there should be an specific enemy that gives Kris an ACT that lets you heal your party members, using just status healing items sounds too plain, unless there's a limited number of them or they are expensive.I didn’t feel the need to elaborate too much on new game mechanics or methods to treat status effects since I wanted to focus mainly on the story, but for the record all of these options would definitely be considered and/or implemented if I were to make this into a game.> I didn't think it was too dramatic, maybe only a bit for the Susie part with the wind drake.I deliberately wanted to make this part dramatic and theatrical, mainly to emphasize the connection between Susie and the Wind Drake, before I even started writing I knew this is one of the main dynamics I wanted to establish, I really liked the idea of Dragon meets Dragon that I pictured it as.
>>4137790>cut of
>>4137804Just to be clear I was one of the posters in the last thread asking oldentale dev and the other drawanon to shut the fuck up.
>>4137809Oh yeah, yeah, 'course.Interesting typing style you got there though.
>>4137776He's not here anymore and even when he was, he was still forced to admit it was a fetish, even if he downplayed its freakiness. The overton window is just in such a different place here, that basically everyone is an open fetishist, even if its for the most vanilla fetishes imaginable.
>>4137786Have to earn somehow.
>>4137812>He's not here anymoreNot so sure about that sometimes.>he was still forced to admit it was a fetishOh, publicly, of course, but he samefagged a ton, and one of the things he would do was constantly say that his work was done in such a way that it wasn't even fetish art, that it was "beautiful", weird shit like that.It was clear he wanted people to see his work as something else, like he was almost embarrassed of it being "just" fetish art.
>>4137798Sure it can be explained. You just have to be one of them.
>>4137806>but for the record all of these options would definitely be considered and/or implemented if I were to make this into a game.I like the idea of status effects in UT/DR, I just think the battles are too short for them to be effective outside of bosses.>I deliberately wanted to make this part dramatic and theatrical, mainly to emphasize the connection between Susie and the Wind DrakeI never played FF5 but I figured that might have been what you were going for.
>>4137644Redditors are incredibly dense. They deny that Haishin, the “cheating comic”, was fetish material. One of the comic’s panels references word for word UTY porn you can find on e6 right now
>>4137794Yeah those places have adults and kids, not just kids.
>>4137775We don't involve kids and we don't try to hide it, but you'd also be hard pressed to get anyone to shut up about their fetishes on this site. So that means if you post a thread about something that a lot of fetishists like, the thread is going to be full of fetish posts and fetish discussion.
>>4137820>They deny that Haishin, the “cheating comic”I had totally forgotten about that, but I thought there was some drama when it got posted there? Like I feel like it was fetish material, but the guy making it also wanted to tell a genuine story, even if it doesn't fit with the setting and characters at all.
>>4137822>So that means if you post a thread about something that a lot of fetishists like, the thread is going to be full of fetish posts and fetish discussion.hmm, yeah to an extent you're right. Hard to bring up Splashwo without getting spammed for instance. I forever admire the fat fetishists of this thread for having more restraint than the people in cave story or mega man threads. but even within those threads real conversation does still prosper.
>>4137819>I never played FF5You're missing out. It's a fun time, and also a game you can break so easily.
>>4137820What?
>>4137792Wouldn't the venom have some sort of an effect on people? Like getting high on it
>>4137827I just not into JRPGs but maybe the ones I played were poorly designed, I should give it a try since Final Fantasy is so important to the genre that inspired UT, but I'm also trying to avoid playing long games
>>4137820>They deny that Haishin, the “cheating comic”, was fetish material.And I thought they were bad before.
>>4137829only if the person has open wounds I think in most cases. I don't think that kind of stuff is chemically designed to seep through unharmed skin.
>>4137823It was probably both meant for fetish material and telling a serious story. Chainsaw Man is a great example of this as the author is a femdomfag but portrays Makima and other dominant women as groomers to DenjiWhile I don’t approve harassing the dude who made the comic, it’s pretty clear the fetish aspect and shock value were the other main motivators for the comic. Since the cheating already happened and the shock value wore out, nobody brings it up anymore, and it hasn’t been updated for months. Chujin WON
>>4137819> I like the idea of status effects in UT/DR, I just think the battles are too short for them to be effective outside of bosses.Well the I would personally rework/remix the battle system to accommodate more prolonged battles while trying not to sacrifice the fun value, my draft has some aspects of that with the addition of status effects and the mandatory FIGHTing.> I never played FF5 but I figured that might have been what you were going for.The Wind Drake is VERY important for the themes of the game, that actually has a fair bit of thematic overlap with Deltarune, with themes like Freedom, and the burdens of the past.Btw I thoroughly recommend the game, it’s honestly one of the best most fun JRPGs I’ve ever played.
>>4137808I didn't notice that until you pointed it out
>>4137833>Chainsaw ManThat's a good example for what I was trying to say.>Chujin WONThere was still that other comic made in retaliation that shows Chujin being in a happy "open relationship" with Roba and Starlo, that felt even more like fetish material since Chujin blushed and smiled at Roba and Chujin kissing, except this time no one tried to argue it was a fetish thing.
>>4137817It was tame by the standards of what it was, but it was absolutely unbirthing fetish art. I appreciated the tameness of it because beggars can't be choosers when it comes to pregfur art, but I still don't know what he was on saying it wasn't fetishistic at all.
>>4137832NTA, but I think venom may be able to see through "raw" skin, if you've lost a few layers.
>>4137830Yeah FF5 is a good Final Fantasy to start with. I would say start with 3, but the Crystal Tower.
>>4137838>There was still that other comic made in retaliation that shows Chujin being in a happy "open relationship" with Roba and Starlo, that felt even more like fetish material since Chujin blushed and smiled at Roba and Chujin kissing, except this time no one tried to argue it was a fetish thing.that comic was the reason that conga line image was made iirc. the one with like 3 robas, a short roba, extra chujins. etc.>>4137840that's fair, probably. It's certianly not safe to bathe in venom but I can imagine that it's going to depend.>>4137843I'd say start with 4 because 4 has a really enjoyable story, but it's harder to go back to after experiencing 5's freedom of mechanics.
>>4137829We're talking about oil though, not venom. Venom, if she has any, could range from causing paralysis to causing necrosis. Or maybe it'd just inflict a JRPG status effect and take one point of health away every turn.
>>4137839>I appreciated the tameness of it because beggars can't be choosers when it comes to pregfur artEh, respectable.>I still don't know what he was on saying it wasn't fetishistic at all.He had a monstrous ego, probably just wanted people to see his fetish art as being something "more", as opposed to what it was. Whatever, I don't like talking about the guy so much these days.
>>4137823It seems like the guy wanted to tell a soap opera story full of misery porn and ntr, without much regard to actually keeping them in character.
>>4137828The ending of the 2nd part of Haishin is picrel. It is almost an exact copy of a shitty NTR pixel animation on e621. Some Redditors tried to "subtly" point this out
>>4137845Yeah 4's story is great, but 5's freedom makes it way more enjoyable.
>>4137850NTA, but to be fair, it's not hard to be "word for word" when it's only about three words.It is definitely that though, yeah.
>>4137851I wont argue with that, so I think it's reasonable to suggest trying 4 first if story is highly valued by the player. But yes, 5 does play much better.
>>4137848>Eh, respectable.You wouldn't believe how low my standards are. The other day I had to photoshop out Ralsei just to get some regular pregnancy art of Noelle. I feel like the gum junky from Puzzle Agent scraping ABC gum off of park benches.
>>4137856nta but I'm sorry, I may be laughing at this. I'm laughing at your suffering and I feel bad about it. I kind of get it, because it's almost impossible to find ralsus stuff that isn't horrendous sights beyond sight.
>>4137846Isn't snake oil supposed to be diluted snake venom collected from the snake's fangs?
>>4137845You mean this one?
>>4137845>>4137851Id argue that 4’s more restrictive party composition and mechanics has its own value that plays to its own strengths kinda like comparing an non-linear game with a linear when playing to their own strengths they can be equally as good, that being said, it DOES make 4 a lot less replayable than 5.
>>4137856>The other day I had to photoshop out Ralsei just to get some regular pregnancy art of NoelleDamn gave him the Stalin's Great Purge special. Anyway, what was the original image?
>>4137856>You wouldn't believe how low my standards are.Well, I won't necessarily blame you if you still like his stuff after everything he did around here, and to me.I do hope you have some better standards for character depictions though, heh.>The other day I had to photoshop out Ralsei just to get some regular pregnancy art of Noelle.As in, Ralsei was the *father*, in the image, or?>I feel like the gum junky from Puzzle Agent scraping ABC gum off of park benches.Mm, I see.
>>4137860yes, it's so fucking stupid I can't help but laugh. >the tiny roba>the second chujin>3 normal sized robasI giggle like an idiot every time.
>>4137860chujin being cucked by... himself??
>>4137845>that comic was the reason that conga line image was made iirc. the one with like 3 robas, a short roba, extra chujins. etc.I know, I made that image.
>>4137865That's a Netskie
>>4137855If it wasn't for the Crystal Tower, I'd easily rank 3 higher than 4.
>>4137867Our fucking hero, I kneel.>>4137868Ch 5 wasn't out yet when the image was made.
>>4137868okay but you gotta admit it's funnier to think chujin's so much of a cuck that he watches as a clone of himself goes at her instead
>>4137869the original 3's story was a lot lighter than the remakes since the characters were a bit more empty. I'm just gonna have to agree to disagree on story grounds.
>>4137858>RalsusMan, that's gotta suck. If you aren't a fan of futa or him being a part of Kris's harem then you really are shit out of luck. I think there's like a couple dozen good Ralsus images on r34 and e6. I remember Flicker-show (i think that was his name) did some good stuff with the pairing back in the chapter 1 days.
>>4137870Foreshadowing >>4137871Even a clone of him would get cucked though
>>4137875well yeah that's the point of the conga line
>>4137874>If you aren't a fan of futa or him being a part of Kris's harem then you really are shit out of luck.I am exceedingly out of luck.>I think there's like a couple dozen good Ralsus images on r34 and e6there are a couple but yeah. My "favorite" part is that some of the images where susie is, equipped, is that they aren't even tagged as futa so they go past my filter. Really just a great fucking time.
>>4137873By 3 I wasn't talking about the story, I was talking about the game as a whole.
I don't know what you all are talking about, obviously 13 is the best FF game.
>>4137880well, I was talking about story in the first place and that 4 is a banger if you're playing for the story, which many people are playing jrpgs for. or were doing so.
Sorry fuckers, FF6's the best one and you can't change my mind
>>4137862Ralsei and Noelle being pregnant with what the description seemed to imply was some sort of xenomorph style dark world parasite. I had to shop out the mpreg and ignore the description just to get some vanilla preg of Noelle. You can probably still find it on e6 by searching for pregnant Noelle.>>4137863>As in, Ralsei was the *father*, in the image, or?No, the mother.
>>4137882KILL HIM!!
>>4137885>No, the mother.??????
>>4137849Basically. It was funny that they tried to portray Starlo getting beat the shit out of like it was a bad thing and that Chujin is actually the bad guy for doing it. I mean it would be bad in real life, but it’s fictional, and the story was being made by some Staroba shipper(s) who need to make Chujin out to be a bad guy no matter what. And I don’t even like Cerojin.
>>4137885>No, the mother.
>>4137867You made one of them, there are a few, I would know, I made some as well.
>>4137884Sure everyone has their preferences, I used to regard 6 as my favorite but now a days I’m more partial towards 5 and 9
>>4137890I don't remember this one.
>>4137864>3 normal sized robasNo, they're specifically palette swap AU robas>>4137865Yes, one of the AURobas brought their AUjin along for some double cuckoldry.
>>4137873>>4137880>>4137883Regardless of what you think about its story, for 3 this moment in particular has always stayed with me.https://youtu.be/fQqGbzGNr_c?is=b44bjGcqwbZJ9MBX
>>4137890Can't believe that Toby got mindbroken by cuckelle memes
>>4137893how do the personalities differ between vanillaroba, blueroba, greenroba, magentaroba and miniroba
>>4137894I'm not calling 3 bad or anything, I just think that 4 did a really good job telling a focused story (aside from some pitfalls it admittedly falls into.)>>4137893please do not into cucking the jin. you'll make me sad and I'll have to write something about him being happy.
>>4137879Most furry futa isn't properly tagged in my experience. So after a certain point I just gave up on subtractive tagging because I didn't want to make an account to keep up a mile long blacklist. Plus again, my standards are so low that I will sink to just cropping it out if I can't find anything better.
>>4137897> I'm not calling 3 bad or anythingDon’t worry I wasn’t trying to imply that, I was just pointing something about it that I really liked.
>>4137890I made the first one and I made the one where the conga there's a line of characters walking away from Roba
>>4137875>Even a clone of him would get cucked thoughMultiple times, since he's watching his Roba cheat on him with another Roba
>>4137897>you'll make me sad and I'll have to write something about him being happy.NTA, but I'm now imagining Chujin getting cucked and writing fics about himself to cheer himself up while he hears Ceroba being plowed by the entire UTDR multiverse in the background.You shouldn't imagine that though, it'd make you feel bad.
>>4137889Kakyoin should be intimately familiar with this subject matter.
>>4137887One would think a fan of Toby games would know what old magics I'm talking about, even if they haven't personally read Toby's earlier works.
>>4137888The other thing I can’t even understand about certain UTY fans is that they love Asgore but hate Chujin. They cry about Asgore getting cucked by Sans, but they make up scenarios of Chujin getting cucked by Starlo despite Starlo being the cucked one + a severe autist
>>4137906Oh my god, fuck you for reminding me of that.Wait, you were getting off to Ralsei/Noelle mpreg?
>>4137903Starlo, please put your dick down
>>4137909Because Chujin is effeminate and Asgore is not. Also because Chujin likes killing humans and Asgore hates it
>>4137906He's familiar with his chest bursting, all right
>>4137903>NTA, but I'm now imagining Chujin getting cucked and writing fics about himself to cheer himself up while he hears Ceroba being plowed by the entire UTDR multiverse in the background.well, that did the trick. I can't find the image I'm looking for but just imagined I posted a sad image.>>4137908what, the baby is you?How is ralsei the mother if it's a noelle pregnancy image?Or were they simply both gregnant.>>4137909a lot of people got emotionally attached to asgore because he's king fluffybuns, and will dismiss everything he did (he's a great character but very flawed), but don't extend any of that grace to Chujin for, I imagine a large variety of reasons that are all stupid and dumb and I hate.
>>4137888>hey tried to portray Starlo getting beat the shit out of like it was a bad thing and that Chujin is actually the bad guy for doing it.Did they really? Its crazy how the overton window has shifted on this sort of thing. I remember Sharp's Rifles in the 2000s framing Sharp killing the man who took his wife and financially ruining said wife in the process as a good thing and his wife as a genuinely evil person.>And I don’t even like Cerojin.I do, but what bothers me here more is that I really hate NTR.
>>4137895I still seriously suspect he did all that NTR shit on purpose, specifically out of spite for the cuckelle memes, just like he did with Hatsei.
>>4137909Yeah Starlo got cucked in many ways. By Ceroba, by Chujin, even the devs themselves cucked him.
>>4137917>well, that did the trick. I can't find the image I'm looking for but just imagined I posted a sad image.You're welcome for that thought.And here's a sad gif for you to use, whenever you need it, free of charge.
>>4137918If one is to ship themselves with Ceroba it is important that it's out of genuine love for Ceroba and to give her the second chance she deserves rather than doing it out of chujin spite.
>>4137914Chujin before his autistic meltdown managed to have a kid with a 10/10 in one go, built many things, and was probably from a rich family. He’s also a boss monster, and his kid loves him. His wife is so loyal to him, unlike Toriel, that she would kill anything for him. He’s only effeminate if you look up porn too much
>>4137921dude that's a MONSTER of a trouserblast.
>>4137921>sad gifAnon I think I may actually refrain from using a gif implying I'm shitting myself.>>4137922now we're talking. the spite ones remind me of that guy who wrote chujin telling the self insert that he was better than himself.
>>4137896One is Ink!Roba, one is BS!Swap!Roba, and one is Glitch!Roba. MiniRoba is exactly the same except that her voice blip is played at 2x speed so it sounds high pitched and is from the macro/micro dimension
>>4137922No, you have to write your pokemon OC dying and going to heaven so Chujin can tell them just how much bigger their dick is than his, and that he wants you to go make Ceroba happy and have more kids with her while forgetting about his own in a basement somewhere.THAT's how you do it.
>>4137897>you'll make me sad and I'll have to write something about him being happy.Well shit, anon, now I have to do it. I must encourage you to write Cerojin.
>>4137928dude unironically fuck that guy LMAO that shit was so uncalled for
>>4137926>Anon I think I may actually refrain from using a gif implying I'm shitting myself.Just think about how sad that gif is, it definitely gets your point across. About how sad you are.
>>4137924Anon... It's like Link from Zelda who can do all feats in the world, yet is still considered effeminate
>>4137917>but don't extend any of that grace to Chujin for, I imagine a large variety of reasons that are all stupid and dumb and I hate.Because he's a hecking racist chud.At least that's the reasoning I've seen in those places.
>>4137910No, I was photoshopping Ralsei out of the image so I could have a picture of pregnant Noelle.
>>4137933No, he's OUR hecking racist chud.Billions (of humans) must die.
>>4137889I wish I didn't see that.
>>4137917>Or were they simply both gregnant. yes
>>4137930It's Shu slander written by a peasant, everybody knows that Shu is married to Luzma (they already had 8 FireFoxes)
>>4137935Wait, so they were *both* pregnant?Oh, god, was Kris the father?
>>4137933>At least that's the reasoning I've seen in those places.yeah that's generally the thing I see most often. either that or very thinly veiled anger about either him having Ceroba instead of them, or because they are made angry that Ceroba was happy being in a traditional role and thus that's Chujins fault for actually stifling her.CLEARLY because chujin didn't built a home gym for her, he hated her and wanted to clip her wings.>>4137931I'm going to have to politely decline. My sadness does not have such... connotations.>>4137929no no really it's quite ok, I'm already motivated, certainly you don't need to go any further!Z please to be nice to the jin
>>4137939what was his lore reason for making his character a fucking pokemon btw
>>4137942There's nothing Pokemon about him aside from him being a fox?
>>4137940If Kris is secretly a xenomorph and by "pregnant" you mean about to give birth to a chestburster, yes.
>>4137939Absolutely not, awful. We don't need Luzma getting mindraped, or regular raped.
>>4137943no I mean the chujin NTR fic where the guy's OC is literally just a delphox
>>4137944I do not believe you are describing a real image that exists and was made by a sentient human person.
>>4137945They are happily married, why are you so jealous?
>>4137909Chujin doesn't get enough screentime. Asgore gets plenty of time to make people like him, despite everything he did. With Chujin all they have is what he did and why, which they find to be unacceptable.
>>4137939>>4137942>>4137943You guys are mistaken, we were talking about Wyatt, a Delphox OC someone made as a self insert, he appear in a UTY fanfic which ends with him marrying Roba and having multiple children with her, at some point during the story he gets to talk with Chujin in heaven and Chujin tells him that he is the man that Roba needs and that he never deserved her or something like that, I don't have images of the guy right now.
>>4137948The internet is not a sacred place, Anon.There's probably much worse out there.
>>4137949There is no way in hell Luzma would stoop so low as to willingly associate with that bottom-feeder.Stop posting about other women and appreciate the alligator you have, Shu.
>>4137947Oh that's a different thing. I don't think that guy ever met Chujin in the afterlife (there was a comic with Shu about that).And why he made him look like that, I would guess just because he is a furry.
>>4137948I just went to esix and I found it, without context it looks like a regular image of pregnant Noelle and Ralsei, well, as regular as mpreg can be.
>>4137952Undoubtedly, but I don't believe specifically the image you are describing exists.It's fake, it never happened.This one was made up by a writer.
>>4137948Finding any normal pregnancy stuff here must be like winning the lottery.
>>4137945This.Luzma is for (consensual) instant loss.
>>4137956We made it up.Not this time.We created it.It's a total fabrication.
>>4137951>he gets to talk with Chujin in heaven and Chujin tells him that he is the man that Roba needs and that he never deserved her or something like thatImagine needing validation to bang some random fictional character by their dead fictional spouse
>>4137941>CLEARLY because chujin didn't built a home gym for her, he hated her and wanted to clip her wings.Probably the dumbest take from that side of the fandom
>>4137955I just tried to find it on esix, and found nothing, so I think you're all lying to me to try and make my world a worse place to live via the hypothetical existence of this image.
>>4137961Especially when it's not some sinful act or something for a woman who was widowed by unfortunate/faultless circumstances to remarry in the first place
>>4137951I think what pisses me off the most is that they have more kids and from what I've seen, Kanako is no where to be seen.What kind of fool doesn't want a happy Kanako daughter.
>>4137965We'll save her, anons. Together, we'll change the future and make her happy.
>>4137959>Luzma is for (consensual) instant loss.I really did some damage with that drawing, huh?But yeah, she deserves better.
>>4137939>>4137943We're talking about Wyatt, not Shu
>>4137953Shu is one of the strongest monsters in the Underground (besides Asgore) and would not be a "bottom-feeder".
>>4137961FOUND IT>Chujin nodded. “Yup. I heard every word. I didn’t expect Ceroba to rebound off of me so quickly… she always went on about how she’d probably never find love again. That she’d never find just the right guy for her. It was hard to hear that. As glad as I am that she cared so much about me, I hated seeing her in such a depressed state. I wanted her to be happy again. But somehow… you showed up and changed all of that.”>Wyatt had a small tear fall from his eye, he wiped it off with his sleeve. “She liked me because she thought I was a version of you.”>Chujin shook his head. “She liked you because you were better than me. Better than anything I could do for her right now.” He slumped over on the counter. “I have to admit. I messed up really bad… really bad. I was blinded by my hatred for humans so much that I got myself killed when I had a family to look after. And then I told Ceroba to keep pursuing it. I don’t know what I was thinking.”>“But… you told Ceroba to not bring Kanako into this. She’s at fault for that.” Wyatt argued.>“And I’m totally angry at her for it! I couldn’t have been more mad when she did that! ‘Rolling in his grave’, that’s the term, right?” He paused. “But… I-I can’t. I can’t hold her against this. Our family can’t keep falling apart. Our legacy can’t end like this… She needs to survive. That’s why she needs you, Wyatt.”>Wyatt looked up at Chujin, wondering what he meant by that.>“I still don’t know how it happened, but when you came from your world... you changed her life SO much. You meant EVERYTHING to her. She might’ve got a bit delusional thinking it was some sort of version of me. But at the end of the day… Wyatt. It was still you.”
>>4137969Uh huh, sure.
>>4137970probably one of the worst justifications for cuck fiction I've ever seen a man write and that's saying something.Where the fuck even is this guy now?
>>4137963You asked for ithttps://e621.net/posts/6770305
>>4137970This sickens me.
>>4137974...The hell's this have to do with a Xenomorph?Someone mentioned chestbursters earlier, I'm not seeing any of that here.
>>4137970>>4137972>>4137976BUT WAIT! There's more!>“It was you who consoled her. It was you who spent time with her. It was you who laughed with her. You were always there for her in these last few days when she needed that perfect person she didn’t think existed anymore. No matter how much she twists it into being about me… that was you.``>“I-I guess..” Wyatt’s voice cracked. “Maybe I overreacted a bit when I got mad at her for that.”>“And when Clover dropped down here? I know I was looking for a human that was pure of heart… but… they proved me so wrong with how I was when it came to humans and kindness. Clover is down there right now… fighting her. They’re protecting you. They’re protecting all the others.”>“Well… I guess good luck to them… right? It’s too late to go back now, isn’t it?”>Wyatt looked at his hands, given the information he’s been able to collect… He’s dead. Ceroba killed him. Chujin shook his head and took both of Wyatt’s hands and placed them together. “Your time isn’t now. You need to go back.”>“W-wha…” Wyatt muttered. “What do you mean? How?”>“You’re going to go back soon. I can feel it.”>Wyatt looked at himself, he was starting to fade away.>“Chujin… I…”>“One more thing…” Chujin added. “I have a request for you. And I really hope you take my words to heart. Please… take care of Ceroba. Despite everything she’s done. She needs to learn how to move on from this prescribed notion of hers, the legacy she thinks I wanted. This isn’t what I wanted. I wanted her to live a long… happy life. She can achieve that with you. I want you to make that happen. Please promise me that you will.”
>>4137940No, they were full of some kind of dark creature or parasite. At least according to the description.>>4137948Here it is if you don't believe me https://e621.net/posts/6770322?q=noelle_holiday+pregnantImmediately following this are: Susie being pregnant from futa Noelle, Noelle being pregnant from futa Carol, Noelle being triimple penetrated and impregated and mindbroken by a werewire, and futa Noelle impregnating Carol. It takes until image 11 to find something relatively normal, which is a meme of Kris making all the Holiday girls into his pregnant harem.I'm tired, anon.
>>4137970Fucking putrid, never post this again.
>>4137971Little known fact is that Shu actually defeated that human in combat and only with Shu's training was he able to last more than a second when fighting Asgore. It's sad that the human was impatient and didn't train more.You see Asgore's propaganda likes to paint humans as violent, but that's not true (how would you act if you would live in a barren wasteland?), all you have to do is show an ounce of compassion and they instantly job.
>>4137941>no no really it's quite ok, I'm already motivated, certainly you don't need to go any further!Z>please to be nice to the jinAlright, but only if you write a chujin copefic and post it here.
>>4137979There are some truly sick people in this world.
>>4137978>>4137970robafags are among the funniest autists of the uty fandom
>>4137941So, feminism and jealousy? I guess no one is jealous of the most divorced man alive, so they're fine with Asgore.
>>4137978Make it stop, it's so bad!
>>4137979>Immediately following this are: Susie being pregnant from futa Noelle, Noelle being pregnant from futa Carol, Noelle being triimple penetrated and impregated and mindbroken by a werewire, and futa Noelle impregnating Carol. It takes until image 11 to find something relatively normal, which is a meme of Kris making all the Holiday girls into his pregnant harem.None of this exists for as long as I don't look at it.None of it's real, it's all just words you're saying to make me feel bad.
>>4137978The deepest pits of hell await you for sharing this here.
>>4137984Hey, I'm a robafag and I'd never write something this bad especially not to cuck poor Chujin.
>>4137977beats me, those are the only images on esix with pregnant Noelle and Ralsei, the description only mentions some form of corruption
>>4137947Its not ntr, because Chujin is dead. At least not until Chujin's ghost tells him to fuck his wife. That was spiritually ntr at least
>>4137982I will, its on the list. Once i finish writing something not thread related and maybe some kanaclover cuteness ill will resolve to make some Cerojin.
>>4137993Close enough. Anything that involves doing this to spite Chujin or make him look inferior to you is just bad taste.
>>4137953If he doesn't stop falseflagging himself as being sought after, he's afraid that Bratty won't want him anymore.
>>4137998>falseflaggingThat's Apsi
>>4137998Maybe he needs to learn that she loves him for who he is.Unless she actually doesn't, but whatever.
>>4137963The tags I used are Noelle_Holiday and Pregnant. Its the first result.
>>4138001Bratty would 100% believe Shu's fake persona though
>>4137957It is. Which is why it sucks that the one passable artist had to fucking ruin it by being such an asshole.
>>4137988Sorry anon, but he's all out of vacation days
>>4137959Shu needs a powerful woman that can give him instant loss. He's got the personality for it.
Sometimes I check AO3 to see if there's anything good, and am punched in the face through my own monitor.
>>4137532You can actually complete Postal non violently
>>4138004Did somebody say PERSONA?
>>4137965Now just imagine that zombie Chujin and Kanako green, but with Wyatt instead of Starlo
>>4138006Eh, there was that other guy who drew some pregnancy stuff, but his can be kinda hit or miss.That Wiki of his looked a bit off, personally.
>>4138011We're already dead, and this is Hell.
>>4137971He TANKED that
>>4138011>Consensual underage>consensual>underageAnon... I...
>>4138016Jesus can save you from hell.No one can save us from this.
>>4138013Flowers blooms inside your heart
>>4137977I said xenomorph style parasite, because the description says corruption and says whatever's inside of them, as though its not a child. Someone else brought up chestbursters, not that those aren't also a staple of pregnancy art on e6 and r34. So much of it is women being pregnant with xenomorphs and exploding at the end, which is illustrative of the absolute state of the tag.
>>4137984>>4137986>>4137988I could post more, but instead I'll leave the book of the dark from where I got those lines.https://files.catbox.moe/1kbxk3.epub>Content Warning: This fanfiction contains spoilers to Undertale Yellow’s story. It is also an OC x Canon story, meaning there will be romantic pairings that could make you feel uncomfortable. Other things to beware of are Emotional Manipulation, Intimacy.>Chapter 58 Onwards contains Abrupt Death/Murder, Insanity, Mind Control, and bad things happening to Ceroba. Also apparently he has been friends with Roba since childhood, probably for even longer than Starlo, no I didn't read this story I'm not that mentally ill, I just skimmed through it and grabbed whatever could deal the most psychic damage to others.
>>4138011>Consensual Underage Sex>Aged-Up Character(s)Wtf is even the point?
>>4138020Can the Lord please banish this filth off of my wholesome ceroba x anon fiction website?
>>4138021What Persona would Flowery have?
>>4137987But it exists for me, and I have to dig through it every day. And no amount of filters will help.
>>4138023>Jungle in the backgroundSad that nobody remembers that the Dunes were greener in the past
>>4138027>wholesome ceroba x anon fiction websiteThere are maybe a handful of them, and almost all but one come from one of our own anon's.Bless his heart, but he's hopelessly outnumbered by the amount of fics of Ceroba raping someone.Goodness has no place on that site.
>>4138028I didn't play persona, but Flowey is literally his persona.
>>4138031Please, anon. I want to believe that his works are the only ones of Ceroba that exist on that site.Please.
>>4138001This is Bratty we're talking about. She believes 100% of his bullshit and uses him specifically to taunt Ceroba, Luzma, and whoever else she thinks he's been with before.
>>4138029Well, the image you linked before had "trans_(lore)" tagged on it.Have you tried putting that one on a blacklist?Might help some. At least for that one.
>>4138011Most normal NSFW fanfic written by a girl.>>4138024Maybe there's a time skip?
>>4138027Anon is Ceroba's wholesome boywife
>>4138015Other guy? I thought it was all the same guy.
>>4138034Hey, there is still the one good Ceroba/Anon sex fic on there that wasn't made by anyone here, that still counts for something.
>>4138036I don't want to make an e6 account
>>4138006>it sucks that the one passable artist had to fucking ruin it by being such an asshole.Ha, surprised to see that.
>>4138034as the anon in question, I'm extremely flatteredbut sadly, no. I think most of them don't even like Anon x Character at all. My last Roba one I uploaded hardly got touched.
>>4138040My spergery is too strong to be that weak in the relationship, I'd have hallucinations of emperor constantine telling me to man up and take the reins
>>4138041No, the guy who does his stuff in a painted look around here, he's a different guy.
>>4138043Then put a "-" before any tags you want to exclude from your search results, it's easy.
>>4138048You haven't been under her tard aura yet>take the reinsThat's for later
>>4138045This cannot stand. The world must come to appreciate Anonroba.
>>4138052Tard vs tard. A battle of wits I wouldn't have any other way.
>>4138054*A battle of dimness. What would you do to prove yourself more tarded then the Roba?
>>4138048it's best when there's back and forth. Doing the "kabedon" making Ceroba's heart skip a beat, but then she smirks, loving it and wrapping her arms around you letting you know there's no escape now that you started this. Ceroba's best when she's not just "submissive' but can be her spirited self while you take the lead, sometimes turning the tables on you because god, she's a sly fox. A sexy sly fox.
>>4138056She tells me she loves me and then I respond with "Thanks, me too" and then in a fit of sperg rage at myself I'd move my right foot too fast and stub my big toe on a nearby piece of furniture. In the midst of hugging my leg my other one slips out from under me and I land flat on my ass.
>>4138058It's not fun unless a little wresting for the top is involved.
>>4137681Im thinking that for part4 im gonna put some emphasis on a certain optional boss on a certain castle (if you know who im talking about just know that I didn’t plan for this when deciding what chunk of FF5 I was gonna adapt it just kinda turned out like this) let’s just say part4 will be Noelle’s time to shine.
>>4138006Call me soft, but I'm not really one to hold grudges. I just don't see the need for it. I still like his stuff despite what's happened, and honestly I want him to continue sharing and posting art again like he did before. I'd rather people not miss out on having their characters or requests drawn because of all this. Yeah it sucks what happened happened, and I admit I'm being optimistic, but I'm really hoping he's able to do what he was doing before all this, and fixes himself up.
>>4138059That's why she has to take the lead...You let yourself be quite vulnerable around a fox... any would take advantage of that...
>>4138063Being vulnerable is my strength, anon. My stupid mistakes in turn grant me unbridled tard power.
>>4138043Make a reddit account instead.
>>4138062NTA, but as the anon who was relentlessly harassed by that drawanon for the better part of a year, I think he deserves all the people hating him now, and then some.Good riddance.
>>4138062I think someone said it best when this all went down. Being a drawfag or even a dev isn't a free ticket to act however you please.anyways I think we were doing a good job moving on and talking about some amazing sights that the internet grants us.
>>4138066Nta I don't hate him either, I'm honestly okay if he comes back after some time away.
>>4138068NTA but that's nice. I don't care who the IRS sends, I'm still not trusting that draw anon.
>>4138068"Time away" doesn't matter if he doesn't actually change at all, and based on a few things, I'm not inclined to believe he actually wants to change for the better.We're much better off without him ruining things and trying to warp the threads for his own interests.
>>4138067>amazing sights that the internet grants us.Like that story about Ceroba having kids with a Pokemon OC?
>>4138062>I'd rather people not miss out on having their characters or requests drawn because of all this. I'd gladly miss them if that means he won't come back.
>>4138072it's amazing how that fills me with anger and amusement at the same time.It's amazing how simply showing Kanako being saved would do away with much of my negative feelings on the matter.
>>4138074Maybe he tried to catch her in a pokeball to take her to a pokecenter, only to realize there are no pokecenters in the underground.So now she's just stuck in a ball forever instead of a basement.
>>4138074The Chujin-shaped elephant in the room:
>>4138072NTA, that was funny as hell, I'd much rather we talked about stuff like that than talking about the unbirth retard
>>4138076Arguably a better fate?>>4138077that's the other half of my negative feelings on the matter admittedly.I mean genuinely come on man I get it, a lot of us wanna fuck the roba. You don't need to Astral project into cucking Chujin to write a story about it.
>>4138072Does that mean someone could catch one of her new kids in a pokeball?
>>4138074>>4138076I think there was some arc about saving Kanako, but that story is like 70 chapters long and they are pretty wordy, I'm not reading that much shit just to see if Kanako gets a happy ending
>>4138080>Arguably a better fate?Maybe Kanako was in [picrel] all along.
>>4138082One Piece pacing
>>4138082if kanako gets a happy ending, then I forgive the author for that part, but I'm also not reading a 70 chapter fic about cucking chujin to find out. Shrodingers... something or another.Still not letting go of the SOUL ntr.>>4138083Ah yes, the GS ball. where we store all of Kanakos character development.
>>4138078We're all pretty retarded in some ways.
>>4138080I bet he sees Chujin's smiling face saying "marry and reproduce" whenever he looks at the sky, like Shinzo Abe.
Not to sound like a high heeled buffon, but have you guys thought on making /trash/ thread when when horny posting starts? I don't have any vandeta against nsfw stuff, but it does definitevely clutter the thread in amounts as big as these.
>>4138088I'd prefer he didn't. To both things.
>>4138091No offense, but you ARE in a thread full of video game anons, we're quite the bunch of yearning nerds.
>>4138092That's why (we) all have to split up and do both of those things with 'roba in every timeline, to prevent this delphox from getting his grubby hands on her.
>>4138088it pisses me off that this makes me laugh.>>4138091nah we talked about that a while back. That's an easy way to splinter discussion, and get more drama minded people since /trash/ is so unmoderated by nature.Also most of this discussion wasn't actually horny posting believe it or not. oh there certainly was horny posting but I swear the majority was about, various things.
>>4138072Asking a dangerous question here, Ceroba x Pokemon OC story or the cursed Martlet Greentext?
>>4138094We need to keep this fucker in his own lane.For wholesome Ceroba fiction.
>>4138091Why does this idea keep getting brought up?It's not happening.
>>4138091Eh, horny posting has been low in the thread so far, yesteday mos conversation were on topic and right now people are mostly poking fun at a long fanfic that involved spiritually cucking Chujin.A trash thread might only be a decent idea when a big fangame update drops and horny posting goes at an all time high.
>>4138096Ceroba X Pokemon OC because it mere existence makes me laugh, the other is just gross and cursed
>>4138098It's gonna be a wholesome Ceroba reality by the time I'm done.
>>4138108By the time WE'RE done. I'm not letting you shoulder this burden alone.
I'm going to assume GELtarune anon has been too shy to respond to feedback about his game, but I hope he's able to relax now that he launched the demo.Still looking forward to playing it this weekend.
>>4138095I know it's not all horny posting, but all of these vast majority hangs in there because of that deviant art fetish like picrel.>nah we talked about that a while back. That's an easy way to splinter discussion, and get more drama minded people since /trash/ is so unmoderated by nature.ok, good to know you discussed it.
>>4138111>but all of these vast majority hangs in there because of that deviant art fetish like picrel.I don't actually understand what you're saying. I think people are just buzzing with energy right now.New thread with a bit of positivityArguments have happened but resolved peacefullytons of new updates dropped including an entire fangame demoI think the thread just has that good energy for once, even if it's not perfect. I hope each of you get to benefit from some of the positive autism energy waves this weekend.
>>4138091Give it up, it's never going to happen.
>>4138109
>>4138091if you want horny then i'll give you a thought i had earlier today>cole gets fat due to a lack of self control, none of his friends help because they think fat humans are cute.
>>4138051Its harder than it sounds, since so much stuff is mistagged there. I don't even bother with filters anymore because of how many different ones I'd have to use
>>4138115https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06Nves9MVxg
>>4138048>I'd have hallucinations of emperor constantineAnon's gonna split the ketsukane estate in half and make Kanako and Clover the rulers of the Eastern half.
>>4138116Okay, well, either make an account to just have a better blacklist, or suck it up, browsing that site is entirely up to you.
>>4138110Maybe he's busy, but I fully understand if GELtarune anon is taking his time to adress the feedback (even if most of it has been positive), whenever I post something big here it feels nerve wracking to read the replies.
>>4138120God bless the Holy Ketsukane Empire.
>>4138122mm, yeah that makes sense. I feel bad that I haven't played it yet but I saw a lot of positivity and even a mention about the bullet patterns being good which matters a ton to me so I really hope he's able to relax.You too when you next make something.
>>4138122dude when I post my fangame blueprint draft my heart's going to be exploding out of my chest until anons respond
>>4138062Its not about holding a grudge, its about him ruining the nice thing we had going. Just look at the replies, things aren't getting fixed, ever, no matter how much you may want it.
>>4138126NTA, but good.Explode.
>anon/roba fics mentionedWHERE
>>4138131I'm not a gave dev though, all I can do with this cursed sperg brain is write.
>>4138135We can torture you too, we don't wanna leave you out.
>>4138134have you already read the ones written locally?
>>4138129Nta these threads were long since broken before this, and well beyond fixing, we just keep moving forward despite that.
>>4138134Go to AO3 and look up the stuff made by "Teuthsolvent".Or go to the librarby, there's stuff there too.
>>4138139No they weren't, that drawfag was actively samefagging to spam his own shit and harass people he didn't like, and things are so much better now.
>>4138139We just got a demo for a fangame, stop being such a doomer
>>4138139this thread has been really good actually. I know some shitty stuff happened between some anons, but those involved are working on things as time goes by.I know it still feels shitty sometimes but we had a fantastic conversation about both the oldenstales and the modernstales.
>>4138121>, or suck it up,That's what I do. I'm just sharing how the other half lives, because it was at least somewhat related to the topic at hand.
>>4138124Who would run that? It has to be someone who has tenuous claim to the name and estate despite not being related to either of them at all.
>>4138143No they absolutely were, we just ignored it because it was easy.
>>4138138I've read nothing
>>4138139I'm not talking about the threads in general, I'm talking about the arrangement we had where he posted decent porn that didn't make everyone who saw it want to gouge their eyes out. That arrangement is dead and buried now.
>>4138147Shu or Wyatt
>>4138149>we just ignored it because it was easy.Mhmm, right.
>>4138150Average Deltarune fan...
>>4138153Our hero...
>>4138152>I'm talking about the arrangement we had where he posted decent porn that didn't make everyone who saw it want to gouge their eyes out.What, like he was the only one?
>>4138150You can find the local fanfics/greens here if you want to give them a readhttps://rentry.org/The-Librarby
>>4138153It'd be Shu's son from that one time travel image. He'll just say that because his dad "dated" Ceroba, that by transitive property, that makes this plot of land that isn't the Ketsukane estate his.
>>4138150Based illiteratechad
>>4138157No one else here really drew pregnancy outside of one or two one off drawings. Basically no one draws Deltarune and Undertale preg art that isn't completely deviantart tier. He at least made vanilla alts. Now no one does it, and even if he came back, it'd be too much of a shitstorm to be worth it.
>>4138152Clearly it's not cause some people have vocally said they're open to him coming back. In any case, I'm dropping this here. I'm tired, and want to focus on the funny stuff.
>>4138150gotcha,on our archivehttps://rentry.org/mtt-fan-works-neowe have a segment for fanfics and within it another segment for greens. Tons of stories in there.I'm flattered by the anon above reccomending me>>4138140but if you are looking for Ceroba x Anon, I have several stories I've written which you can find under my name or in the librarby. I've got an NSFW story which I plan on adding another chapter to sometime when inspiration strikes, and several sfw stories that are just some of the various GIWTWM moments across the threads.there's also some greens in there written by other anons that are nice the "rare moment of descript" one lives rent free in my head Go now, go and zap to the extreme anon.
>>4138162There's still that other anon that drew pregnant Quetzali and Wiki, but he posts here irregularly, and Sig too but he has only drawn if a few times.
>>4138162What about Azimuth?
>>4138163>Clearly it's not cause some people have vocally said they're open to him coming back.NTA, but there are still a whole lot more people around here that want that guy gone for good, and some pretty notable people at that.The arrangement is dead, that guy's a persona non grata now, and that's not changing.
Is Gizmo too much of a stereotype? Do you like Gizmo as he is right now in game?
>>4138162It'll only be a shitstorm if people make it a shitstorm. I trust the people here won't do that should he come back.
>>4138152>>4138167>arangementhe was just a drawfag, he didn't have some special pact with the threads.if you want more art like that try being the change you want to see.>>4138169I like Gizmo but I want to see his personality tested in future interactions with Melody. I also know someone who's a uh, what do we call gizmo x melody? anyways he ships that and seeing him talk about it makes me interested in seeing where it goes/if it goes.
>>4138165Sig has drawn it twice. >>4138166He's also drawn it maybe twice. Fair enough his art isn't bad, its just kinda hamstrung by the overshading he does to it. Ruins the depth of the image, which is kind of the whole appeal.
>>4138172look, I get that your favorite drama stirrer got run off, but that's not gonna change how people feel, and bringing it up over and over again when people are just barely recovering isn't going to help anything.
>>4138172I don't trust that it won't become one by nature of him being involved. Some people just can't coexist with each other.
>>4138169He's an offensive stereotyoe towards green cats
>>4138173He seems to be way closer to Sadie than to Melody though
>>4138169I like Gizmo and want more Gizmo in my games.
>>4138172I'll make sure a shitstorm does happen if he tries to combe back after the insanity he tried to pull off
>>4138178he's close to sadie for sure but that doesn't mean they'll end up dating. They very well could just stay friends.I'm not against something else being shipped, but I'm also not against them just simply being tight like that.
>>4138177There hasn't been a green cat monster aside from Gizmo both in UT and DR and I don't think any fan media has a green cat monster in it
>>4138176NTA, but I think it was more of a *him* problem than a "coexistence" problem.I was perfectly willing to coexist with him, he's the one who started going after me because of his own ego and insanity.
>>4138179What are your games?
>>4138173>if you want more art like that try being the change you want to see.Drawing art isn't the same as viewing art. No amount of me picking up a pencil is going to replace what's been lost, it will always be different. Not that it isn't good, but its not the same thing.
>>4138183It was making a joke
>>4138187I didn't get it...
>>4138188It was just a dumb comment about stereotypes since that word is asociated with racial stereotypes
>>4138184But you can't coexist with him now, at least if I've read your posts on the matter correctly. And I highly doubt he wouldn't push your buttons in the future, or someone else's, if he ever did come back, because he seems to have some deep seated issuesAnyways, didn't you say you wanted to stop talking about this? Or was that someone else?
>>4138185I meant the games I play, which would include all fangames from here.
>>4138181Nta intentionally fucking up a thread, especially if it's a good one, doesn't sound like it will be worth it.
>>4138191But he is unironically a bit of a "gamer" stereotype. Some people even say that his personality is nothing but video games
>>4138192I think most people are ready to stop talking about this, but someone keeps bringing it up as if the threads are ruined because people don't want the guy back. We were having a very nice conversation about various things if we could please get back to that.
>>4138192>But you can't coexist with him now, at least if I've read your posts on the matter correctly.Again, you're framing this like it's some kind of mutual problem, when I just take issue with the idea of sharing these threads with someone who harassed me and tried to drive me out, as well as twisting the threads to fit his own wishes with no consideration for anyone else.That's like saying someone has a problem with "coexisting" with someone who assaulted them.>And I highly doubt he wouldn't push your buttons in the future, or someone else's, if he ever did come back, because he seems to have some deep seated issuesWhich is why he shouldn't come back.>Anyways, didn't you say you wanted to stop talking about this? Or was that someone else?Someone else, pretty sure.I certainly don't like to talk about the guy too much after all the psychotic bullshit he put me and these threads through, but I'd rather not have the issue be silenced or minimized.
>>4138193Well, Gizmo would be only in DRY1 and DRY2, unless there's a cameo?
>>4138194Yeah which is why he shouldn't come back
>>4138158>>4138164>>4138161thanks frens
>>4138199It would be cool to see some GELtarune cameos in DRY1/DRY2 and viceversa, too bad I don't think GEltarune will have a light world, maybe there could be a reference to GR's Not!Mcdonald's
>>4138197Someone brought him up again when people were talking about fetishes, and it happened in the last thread as well, so I get the feeling it was done intentionally to make people upset, because I guess someone here likes watching people be upset at him, when people are clearly trying to move on.
>>4138204some people joked a bit about his psychosis just fine and moved on, and then someone sperged out about the threads being broken because of the "arrangement". just seems like nonsense. let's go back to discussing things.
>>4138198>you're framing this like it's some kind of mutual problemRegardless of who's in the right or in the wrong, if one person can not exist in the same space as another person, and both are in the same space, it generally does become a problem for both if it wasn't already.>That's like saying someone has a problem with "coexisting" with someone who assaulted them.Yeah, I think an assault victim would have serious trouble coexisting with the perpetrator of the assault, and that's not even considering whether or not the perpetrator would do it again, which further rules out the possibility of coexistence. >Which is why he shouldn't come back.Look anon, I'm not saying that he should come back, or that he wasn't at fault for what he did, or even that you should forgive him. All I'm saying is that since it happened, you and him clearly can not exist in the same thread together. This isn't me saying that you should leave either, just stating the fact that something has been lost, and there's probably no replacing it.
>>4138207>and there's probably no replacing it.nta, but this is a really good case of "nothing of value was lost".seriously just draw stuff yourself if you want it, while treating your fellow anons as well as you can (within the bounds of autism), and something better than what once was had will then become.
>>4138206>>4138204It wasn't sperging and it wasn't bringing it up out of nowhere to start a fight. It was part of the natural flow of the conversation, the one about how impossible it is to find good pregnancy art of Deltarune characters that isn't completely ruined by weird fetishes.
>>4138209and I'm saying that there's nothing he provided the threads that you couldn't do 10 times better at by even just making some gregnancy doodles if you want.
>>4138208Nta, I liked his art even if he played very safe, I just wish he wasn't a massive retard, an artist can't replace other. Anyway I'm dropping the topic a d we should all too.
>>4138211>an artist can't replace other.I mean, yeah you're right you can't actually replace someone, but I do think that anon can bring better to the thread than that guy ever did by just, being chill about it if he wants this stuff.
>>4138208>nta, but this is a really good case of "nothing of value was lost".Stop making me defend him. His art was good and I liked it. He was a sociopathic asshole that drew good porn and that's the problem.>seriously just draw stuff yourself if you want it, Its not the same. It might be the same for someone else, but I'm still out a good supply of porn. The best I can hope for is that the threads get better, even if I'm stuck with whatever shit I find on e6 forever.
I hope Geltarune anon posts again soon, I'd like to ask him a few things, GR's world raises some interesting questions.
>>4138216The next thread should be about Geltarune, assuming people had enough time to play it.
>>4138207>Yeah, I think an assault victim would have serious trouble coexisting with the perpetrator of the assault, and that's not even considering whether or not the perpetrator would do it again, which further rules out the possibility of coexistence. And as someone who has been attacked before, yes, I didn't like being in the same room as the person in question afterwards, you're right.I don't want this guy to be here either.>you and him clearly can not exist in the same thread together.I'm just not a fan of the way you're describing it here, since it makes it seem like I was part of the problem somehow, when the issue was entirely on his end.I have a problem with him *now* because of what he did, I didn't have any problems with him until he started making problems.>just stating the fact that something has been lost, and there's probably no replacing it.Yes, I'm well aware of how much you like his work.
>>4138215>but I'm still out a good supply of porn. The best I can hope for is that the threads get better, even if I'm stuck with whatever shit I find on e6 forever.I mean I do sympathize with you here, I'm coming at you wrong with this and I'm sorry my wording about "replacing" is kind of shitty. I just think that if you started making this stuff, you sound like you actually give a shit, and I bet you could make stuff that people would be happy with while not making the thread a worse place due to, whatever issues.
>>4138210>>4138214Nta to the second one, but no anon, that guy is a better artist than I am and he likely always will be. I'm just not the kind of person who can dedicate himself that hard to doing that well at art, and not the kind of person that being that good comes naturally to.Consuming also isn't the same and creating. They're different acts that fill different needs, so regardless of what happens to the threads, I'm still shit out of luck.Now I say again, stop making me praise him.
>>4138221>Now I say again, stop making me praise him.yeah I already addressed that the way that I came across on things was kind of shitty. I don't have any care for that guy but I'm not needing to be shitty to you.I do take issue with> that guy is a better artist than I am and he likely always will beJust because, again you seem to give a shit, which makes me think you could do great things man.
>>4138208It's not that simple man. Something happened, the personal involved contributed a lot and people have handled it in different ways, included their thoughts on wanting him back. I feel like people are just going to have to acknowledge each others stances on this when it gets to that.
>>4138218>I'm just not a fan of the way you're describing it here, since it makes it seem like I was part of the problem somehow, when the issue was entirely on his end.Well I'm not trying to paint you as part of the problem. You didn't, haven't. and aren't doing anything wrong. Shit's just fucked because of him, and that's a problem. And even his absence, which is necessary because of the aforementioned issues, is a problem, one that can't be fixed without causing worse problems, which again is no fault of yours.
>>4138224you're going to have to accept that a lot of people are never going to accept him back, and that they have fair reason to. I'm moving on from this conversation.
>>4138227Mm.
>>4138220>>4138223I've been at this for years, I'll never get that good. I don't even really want to. My passion isn't in making porn, I don't want to be known as "the porn guy" which I would be if I made a habit of drawing it.
I should not have started reading the roba/anon stuff
>>4138233We got another one guys, we did it.Welcome to the club, anon.
>>4138228And in the same way you also have to accept there are people here that do want him back, with their reasons as well.>I'm moving on from this conversation.Yeah I'll be doing the same.
>>4138233Welcome to the Ceroba Yearning Club, Anon.
>>4138237>And in the same way you also have to accept there are people here that do want him back, with their reasons as well.NTA, but that ratio isn't in your favor here.
>>4138232well, if you really don't want that to be the route you go down then I'll leave it be. I just think that with the passion you're displaying that you have a lot of capability.Look man I'll leave you be on this, I understand your frustration, and it sounds like you understand ours. Here's hoping that other artists that draw the stuff you like join the threads. I don't have any issue with the stuff you're into, and I'm not going to raise a shitstorm if another pregnancy artist shows up.
>>4138233
>>4138233HahahahaHAHAHAHAHAH if you read any specific story I'd love to hear your feedback on it
>>4138233It happens to the best of us
>>4138241>I'm not going to raise a shitstorm if another pregnancy artist shows up.>meanwhile the drawfag reads this and wonders whether he can try pulling that "new drawfag" trick again
>>4138247hah, That drawfag has other fossilized errors that I didn't actually announce when that big callout happened. Kept a few in my reserve. I don't suspect he's smart enough to cover those up if he tries again.Also I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.
>>4138247his style, in both writing and drawing, is so specific that i really doubt that he'd be able to try to "new drawfag" shit again.
>>4138240Want to know what I think? I think the majority of people here simply just don't give a shit about all of this.
>>4138247His artstyle is really distinct, and he seems to only be able to draw in the one style, so I don't think he'd succeed if he tried.
>>4138251Ah, nice.It's nice to know some people care enough to keep watch for his deceptions, even now.I'll admit, it was somewhat, heartwarming, perhaps, to see some people mention me when I read over the thread when I was reached out to. I know some couldn't care less for me or my return, but I appreciated seeing some who did, at least.That guy with the demoman image who apparently first called for my return, that was nice.
>>4138255Dunno, seemed like a pretty decent amount to me back when it all happened. Even some developers.You're not rewriting this narrative pal, it's not happening.
>>4138257You're autistic as hell anon but you're alright.
>>4138255personally i only care about the fact that he shat up the thread and chased off a drawanon (even if i myself hate yagi because of the creachure's history on /v/, it just aint right).if he comes back, and he can act like the rest of us. then alright, fine, he's changed enough to earn it.
>>4138252>>4138256Oh, probably not, I was just making a joke about it.It would be very funny though, but he's almost certainly still around here, just not revealing his presence as much.
>>4138262>(even if i myself hate yagi because of the creachure's history on /v/, it just aint right).I'm not the Yagi guy.
>>4138263I mean, if you were in his position, would you?
>>4138265... huh.welp alright then i have absolutely zero complaints against you.
>>4138266No, but I also wouldn't be in his position to start with, because I'm not a psychopath who goes after people who happen to not share my fetishes.I want to fit in with the threads, he wanted the threads to fit him. So, that's something to consider.
>>4138269You seriously thought I was the guy who draws Yagi?I'm not even upset, I'm just confused you mixed us up like that.Or, did you think we were the same person or something?Genuinely, I'm confused.
>>4138272i have no clue, your guess is as good as mine.
>>4138274Well, alright then.Hope I haven't actually done anything to draw your ire somehow.Carry on.
Hey not to kick the two autistic wasps nests but uh...What do you guys mean by "The" guy who draws Yagi?
>>4138281I think most of us knows there's like 3 or so now, but there used to be only one.
>>4138281Well, there's more than one guy, but I guess that guy thought I was some "main" Yagi guy.I don't know.He doesn't seem to either.
>>4138280Why is Clover the only one replaced?
Watch your pockets.
>>4138283Dude I think even if you're just counting the nozzlers there's more than 3
>>4138285Another common asian artist W for yellowbros
>>4138290What happens if you re-flatten paper Mooch and then take her into a dark world?Does she feel pain for not being assembled properly, like a vivisected person?
>>4138295nah I think it's around 3 or 4. nothing against them, but watching art styles and all that, I think I'm about on the number for people who actively draw him now. Sorry my autism watches this kind of stuff without even paying attention. There's about 3-4 yaglinators.
thank you everyone very much for the thoughts and feedback, I apologize for responding late and not having too much to show but I wanted something out by a Halloween deadline and I wasn't gonna have the dungeon area I wanted completed by that time. From what I've gotten to read I'm going to try finding an original track I can use for Bastelect and I'm going to try making the game much easier, I think having debug stuff on has dulled my sense of balance.Again thank you very much for playing, it's been super exciting seeing people talk about my stuff
>>4138310NOW ANONS, JUMP HIM
>>4138310Hey congrats on the demo, glad you're having a good time.
>>4138310Aye, good job anon
>>4138310Hey, nice to see you back in here, you wanted to post dungeon before halloween? Are you going to have it by next month then?>I'm going to try making the game much easierI thought the difficulty was fine, Bast does deal a lot of damage but the common enemies are alright in that sense.
>>4138310>>4138331 (me)Oh and sorry if my question sounded like I'm pressuring you, I was just curious, you did a good job with the demo and I'd like to see what you have planned for the future.
>>4138299No, she just acts aggressive until you use the "FOLD" act to make her happy and spare her.
>>4138310>I think having debug stuff on has dulled my sense of balance.Happens to everyone, literally, haven't seen a dev who hasn't had this problem so far.
>>4138310If it helps, Anon, getting a few friends who haven't seen much of the development process to early blind-test your games will work wonders with being able to balance your game.Unbiased opinions can be the best opinions.
>>4138331nta, but I thought the gheezas had difficult bullet patterns for what they were
is the geltarune battle track from another game? it sure is a bop
Underswap Echoed is being rebooted into DawnpartedNews: https://gamejolt.com/p/underswap-echoed-time-please-read-xr2b7juehttps://dawnparted.neocities.org/devlogs/autumn26New Project: https://gamejolt.com/games/dawnparted/1104858
>>4138352You can find the credits to Geltarune's music in a txt file in the game's folder>>4137210
More nozbast
>>4138429oh shit nice!
>>4138429>I know nothing about her so I based her on your sketchesDamn that's actually good compliment towards Geltarune anon
>>4138023I wish you a [monthly psychiatric evaluation] and a [[Injured? Good!]]>>4138028Mastema
>>4138443It is, but also like a few people drew bastelec over on Noz as examples. I don't know that that artist knows about the thread
>>4138447erm...... personas are entirely original and unique to their summoner like stands ackshually.... you can't use the SMT angel.Maybe Flowery's above that limitation.
>>4138429Tom and Jerry looking ass, this is not a downside I like it
Anons, if you had the opportunity to assign a species to a stoic monk-type monster in an undertale fangame what species would he be (definitely not fishing for ideas or anything haha)
>>4138284It's funny to take it 100% literally and not a hyperbolic butthurt statement because if there is a singular guy that draws Yagi, he's the most prolific artist with the highest output, does all kinds of art, sprites or regular, animations, and is developing multiple of the fangames in the thread all at the same time.
>>4138476Kind of hard to say if something thematically appropriate like a turtle or a crocodile that's known for patience and diligenceAnd just saying Monkey because hahaha monki monk
>>4138485wise and stoic gator monk? not a bad idea
>>4138476>stoic monk-type monster in an undertale fangame what species would he beLoose collection of particles bound together, entirely composed of a noble gas.
>>4138486I meant crocodile but I remembered backwards, crocodiles are the impatient aggressive and short tempered ones, and alligators tend to be more reserved and patient.
>>4138488Wouldn't a noble gas monster be invisible unless exposed to electrical currents?
>>4138491Could willingly allow themself to be visible either by existing at a higher temperature, or having an electrical current running through them, as you suggest.But I thought of it because you said "stoic", and noble gases don't react by themselves normally.Yes, I know that's dumb.
>>4138492sentient noble gas monster that manipulates a vessel, suit or mechanism of sorts to be visible and interact with the world?
>>4138493Yeah, that could work.Maybe they have a special suit that closes them off from the world most of the time, only exiting it when they wish to do something directly. Reacting, effectively.
That reminds me, Hellboy has a character named Johann Kraus that through ectoplasmic projection and an explosive accident destroying his physical body is just permanently a mass of ghost gas that requires a containment suit to interact with tangible objects and stuff
Current drawing project has apparently now reached 100 paint layers. It also now takes more than a few seconds to flip the canvas horizontally. I'm sure both of these things are fine and nothing to be worried about.I hope to have it completed before the file gets too big and explodes my computer.
>>4138429How she looks at you when she asks if you have any nails in your pocket.
>>4138476Monkey, call him Monke, and he's visually based on a sarugami.
>>4138493>>4138492>>4138495Isn't that just re-inventing Feumme from first principles?
>>4138485There are monkey monks in Japan called sarugami.
>>4138504I've seen this concept before, he didn't invent it.See, just ask this anon, >>4138499.
>>4138501What are you drawing?
>>4138507Thing I can't talk about yet until it's done, but will vaguepost about because I feel like it for reasons.Also, turns out it's worse than I thought by just a little, oops.
>>4138504>>4138506Feumme is a miasma cloud this guy is a gas too but he sounds more sci fi, I think both are different enough
>>4138506I guess its like crabs, ideas just keep evolving into them.
>>4138508I think +390 extra layers is a bit more than "a little worse"
>>4138510as a fan of hellboy, yeah it's different enough, though rather than just scifi it's a bit more "supernatural". What with how hellboy is and all
>>4138511The natural endpoint of particle creatures, the esoteric fart.
>>4138503you want me to make wukong
>>4138514>>4138499I did somewhat get the idea from that guy in Hellboy 2. At least he informed the design once I remembered something like that existed in media already.
>>4138512That's basically like a small handful of extra layers, hardly noticeable. Every drawing I make includes about 10 gorillion layers, it's fine.
>>4138516Wukong is loud, boisterous, and Chinese. This guy would be stoic and Japanese
>>4138508surely you could merge some of these layers?
>>4138310A few bugs/oversights I noticed:>The text overflows in Kiaos' Letcture Act/GEL with Cheffery>Lowercase "i" in the cutscene puddlepuzzle3intro>There is no collision to the right of the park sign where there's a fence post>On the slope at the exit of chaseroom/entrance of chaceroom2 you can slide to the left and walk out of bounds
>>4138523Some, yes, but some are absolutely vital, like the identical copy layer group that contains dozens and dozens of layers pertaining to not yet's body that I've had disabled for the last several sessions by now.It's load bearing, that one.
>>4138526You should add a secret in that last one.
>>4137498>>4137230Kris will play an important role, but he will mostly stay in background, as fanfic will be focused on Kanako and Cole. Also when you said that, I realized that his personality isn't really different from the original, but then I thought about it, and no matter how I look at it, the circumstances in this AU would still have shaped him into Kris, hell, even more so than in the original, if it makes sense.
>>4137140oh ya I forgot to mentionbradley DOES have an attack that costs TP if you attack a certain someone on the first turn but I wouldn't recommend using it
>>4138169I think he could use a little more characterization, but he's ok.
Saving Fem Clover from the evil Ceroba.
>>4138501Good lord anon, what is this megaproject?>>4138508Jesus that's a lot of layers, no wonder the program is strugglin. Can't you merge some of them?
>>4138635>Good lord anon, what is this megaproject?Can't say anything specific, not yet.It started life as a gift for the librarby anon while I was in exile though, and ostensibly still is. I hope others will enjoy it, however.>Jesus that's a lot of layers, no wonder the program is strugglin. Can't you merge some of them?*Could* I? Yes.*Will* I?No. I like having backups of layers in case I fuck something up and need to revert.
>>4138636>Can't say anything specific, not yet.>It started life as a gift for the librarby anon while I was in exile though, and ostensibly still is.>I hope others will enjoy it, however.Understandable, I'll patiently await seeing it, anon.>No. I like having backups of layers in case I fuck something up and need to revert.Also understandable but damn, now I see why you bring up that poor thing struggling.
>>4138641>Understandable, I'll patiently await seeing it, anon.I appreciate it.>Also understandable but damn, now I see why you bring up that poor thing struggling.The struggle will strengthen it, or it will break.It will either earn its life, or deserve its death.
>>4137675>>4137676>>4137678didn't have time to go through this today but I've got it earmarked to read over when I get up tomorrow
Heard someone suggest that the weekend threads should be about Geltarune this time around. Not a bad idea, but someone else'll have to handle things this time, don't feel like sticking my neck out again and earning a vacation. And remember, silence is golden. Be safe.I'm going to bed.
Curious that people want Ralsei to transition because he sometimes can act feminine, but don't want Susie to transition just because she can act masculine.Why could that be?
>>4138661"Transfems" are more vocal than the other ones.
>>4138652Take your time, there’s no hurry.
>>4138661trannies are mostly mtf and still want to Susie to be a girl so they can imagine themselves as her or as Noelle fucking her.
Does this sprite look "Undertale-y" to you? Making stuff accurate to the style is deceptively tricky.
>>4138782It remains me of something………..
Chapter 18 of Partners: https://rentry.co/da5iwtzcAs always, previous chapters are on Ao3 under Cobalt_Core.Seems like 10,000 word chapters are becoming the norm, even when I set out to make a """small""" chapter of 7000 or so. I confess that I might have allowed insecurity to get to me a little bit. I wrote the entire Steamworks portion in Clover POV, thinking that he'd been under-represented for the zone, but I just can't help but think it was a mistake, and that I left stuff on the table. It was too late for me to go back and change it by the time these feelings made themselves known, but I also didn't feel strongly that it was outright damaging, and settled on good enough. I flinch away from "good enough" type thinking, but sometimes ya jus' gotta swallow a bitter pill.I think I'm gonna work on a side project after this.
Crucify Bradley
>>4138826Bastelect...
>>4138782I think it looks good enough, did you use Asriel's sprite as a base to make it? Maybe you could try putting him next to Chara to compare proportions and style.
>>4138787Nice work in making another long chapter, writing this much consistently can't be easy.>I think I'm gonna work on a side project after this.Is it related to fangames or UT/DR in any way?
Y’know as a huge fan of FF5 the whole “Trans Ralsei” discourse reminds me of a certain main character that has come to be very misunderstood and misinterpreted by the same kind of people that peddle trans Ralsei.Faris is one of the main party members of FF5 who is in the party for nearly the entire game, she is a princess from the kingdom of Tycoon who was lost in an incident at sea, and was then found and raised by a band of pirates, and while originally only pretending to be a male pirate for survival, she eventually ended up adopting it as part of her identity and becoming more comfortable living and dressing as an adventurous pirate than a princess since that’s how she was raised.A lot of bad actors now a days are coming out of the woodwork proclaiming that she’s some kind of trans/enby allegory and treating Faris like some kind of symbol to legitimize weird “queer identity” even though I very much doubt the jap writers that made her even knew what their insane made up identities even are, you have NO idea the amount of shitty video essays I’ve seen that proclaim Faris one of the best most complex characters not just in FF5 but in the entire franchise just because of their weird misinterpretation and overcompensation of her gender and identity.(I guess they just hate tomboys when they aren’t lesbian)
>>4138841>(I guess they just hate tomboys when they aren’t lesbian)Does she have a male romantic interest in game?
>>4138841It's weird that the ones who "fight against gender norms" are the ones trying to aggressively enforce those strict gender roles, even going as far as surgery
Undertale/Deltarune fangames?
>>4138837What does her name even mean?
>>4138841Btw, Faris is Susie>(I guess they just hate tomboys when they aren’t lesbian)Tomboy erasure is one thing, but seems like they already succeeded at erasing reverse traps. Recently I learned that even historical examples of girls dressing as men to become soldiers are officially considered trans now. I'm too scared too goodgle if Jeanne D'Arc is already considered enby.
>>4138850Geltarune, DRY1, DRY2, Oldentale, Naranja, ebin :D UTG, UTP
>>4138852Aw, fuck*to googleI swear I'm not pregnancy drawanon.
>>4138850geltarune demo just came out
>>4138853>UTPPink? will anon ever share progress on that one?
>>4138845Romance isn’t really a focus of the game, so there aren’t really any openly romantic scenes in the game, but pretty much every female main character has a tender emotional moment with the protagonist Bartz for one reason or another, but there are some scenes that hint at some kind of interest in the opposite gender, like one of her pirate crew members having a crush on her, or her being embarrassed when Bartz calls her cute when she’s forced to wear a dress after she returns to her kingdom.She’s also generally shipped with Bartz the protagonist (and the only other characters she’s shipped with are either also men or her own sister) and there is also no remote hint at her being remotely interested in the same gender romantically.
>>4138841>overcompensationI actually meant to say “overcomplication“ but I guess that word technically doesn’t exist.
>>4138787Ayyyy holy shit this week keeps getting better
>>4138852>I'm too scared too goodgle if Jeanne D'Arc is already considered enby.Some "people" say she is
>>4138852>Btw, Faris is SusieYou just know Toby fantasized about her being a lesbian when he played FF5
>>4138902More evidence towards Noelle wanting to fuck Dess
>>4138852Weird, none of that is in the translation I played
>>4138930Meant for >>4138841
>>4138930Was RPGmaker aesthetic inspired by FF?
>>4138932I’d say it was more inspired by dragon quest especially with the battle ui.
>>4138934Could be inspired by both.
>>4138935Yes probably both, but from what I’ve seen being made on RPGmaker, I have seen A LOT more DQ than FF.
>>4138852>Mulan is trans
>>4138851bastet + electric, she is a very stupid jojo reference
>>4138979I would think Bastelet would've been a better play on words, since it plays on outlet, and flows better.
>>4138969Now a days it wouldn’t surprise me to see people unironically arguing this.
>>4138983Baste? Baste on what?
>>4139003
>>4139005Ceroba...
>>4139003 my aunt
>>4139011Great, now I'm legally required to post the imageThis is your fault
>>4139014I love this I can't believe I haven't seen it
>>4139014Good god my sides. Thanks for the laffs anon.
>>4138787Nice, looks like I've got a lot of reading to do this weekend>I wrote the entire Steamworks portion in Clover POV, thinking that he'd been under-represented for the zone, but I just can't help but think it was a mistake, and that I left stuff on the table. It was too late for me to go back and change it by the time these feelings made themselves known, but I also didn't feel strongly that it was outright damaging, and settled on good enoughHmm, everything I've read since the steamworks started has been pretty good. we've gotten some really good moments of robas internal world throughout.well, either way I'm looking forward to when I can make time to read it. Also curious about that side project
How's everyone doing this time?
>>4139115Eh, could be better. Currently down with a cold and waiting on a thread.
>>4139115Tired, wont have the free time I want until tomorrow, but I'm looking forward to having the time to fuck around with the demo and the new stories tomorrow
>>4139124>>4139127I suppose its too early for a Geltarune thread? maybe wait until tomorrow and make something else today?
>>4136998I've been waiting all week for a chance to read this and can finally get to it!>>4138068For all the talk about being on the internet long enough to deal with crap some anons are way too trusting. That drawanon is lucky that with his sociopathy or whatever he's got he "only" engaged in stupid social manipulation on a tiny niche instead of doing something that would put him in the big house. Not looking to restart it, I just want to emphasize the finality of "no" in this, regardless of how horny you or I are about pregnant Martlet.>>4138169He's two dimensional but in a way that is endearing and fun like Undertale characters should be. I like how he broke up the school fight because he selfishly wants Melody to keep competing against him, or at least that's how he justifies it. It's in keeping with his character while he moves the plot along in a good way. That said, he's important and compelling enough to deserve something like a Berdly arc, just with more permanence.When it comes to DRY character development since it's inherently limited, my preference is first DRY OCs (lightner and darkner) > major UTY characters that are underdeveloped > other UTY characters. For example, I love how you handled Chujin's character arc in Chapter 2 because he desperately needed one, it was self-contained, and it left-off satisfactorily. Sadie, Gizmo and Melody have to be explored. After them in priority is Starlo who's both simple and a bit of mystery and who got shafted in UTY. I love Martlet but she doesn't need a full arc considering we know her pretty well. Ceroba was fully explored in UTY and doesn't need a lot of screentime imo.
>>4139132We could try that, I was looking for a geltarune image that would be a good thread starter but I wont have time to play it until tomorrow.Still the game looks exciting and deserves its spotlight, im just juggling a few things while thinking of a thread
>>4139140I think >>4138110 is a good image for a thread, either that or screenshot from the game
>>4139143That image works, havent played yet to get screenshots.
>>4138782Last post on this before I go to sleep, but I finished the first proper attack! The battle box becomes a fake version of the fight box, several lines move across it and you have to move in the opposite direction of each one to avoid a knife slash.I have a lot more respect for fan game developers now, it took me a couple hours just for one attack.
>>4139149That looks pretty cool.
If im not mistaken, bradley wants to discuss fanworks
>>4139137>Not looking to restart it, I just want to emphasize the finality of "no" in thisNTA, but I appreciate what you're saying here.I think it may be best to avoid making him a topic of discussion for a bit, since he's almost certainly still lurking around to "defend" himself through sockpuppeting, if some of the weird behavior and speaking styles we saw last night on the matter ("cut of", for instance) are anything to go off of. Don't give him the room to try and argue for himself at all, ideally.
>>4139179I'm over it at this point, I just want to talk about Final Fantasy.
>>4139202Then do that.
>Thread about a new fangame got deletedJannies have completely lost the plot, fuck them I'm making a new thread, give me a second
They're really deleting threads for a new release?Disgusting
Isn't Bradley technically a janny?
>>4139202Nta but Well my ramblings and writings about FF5 are still there if you wish to give it a little read and give some pointers.
>>4139208Wagie, the difference being he actually gets paid
Huh, someone reposted that Luzma thing I drew before the thread went under.Don't see those ones reposted too often.Neat.
>>4139208He would never stoop so low
Who wants to talk about GELtarune? *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge*
>>4139210>>4139213He does have to clean up after people and his weapon is literally a water gun
>>4139215Anon GELtarune is a real game. The demo is linked above in this very thread
>>4139215The World Health Organization wants to do what?
>>4139206>>4139207Guess these threads really are done for. It was nice while it lasted.
>>4139219I was talking about a second thread which already got deleted, Jannies are straight up subhumans, but they won't stop us, not today or ever.
>>4139222We've been through worse, quit doomposting.
>>4139222Jannykun...I will never kneel. Our discussion is objectively rule abiding and board appropriate
>>4139212>>4139177Can I get an archive link?
>>4139212I really like how she looks in that artstyle
>>4139210He's not a janny, but he ends up doing a janny's job anyways
>>4139233Is that even worse than being a jannie?
>>4139227Have we? That guy's a faggot, but I really think this is unprecedented levels of bullshit.
>>4139231https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/750296661it died pretty early
>>4139232Generous, calling it an "artstyle", but thank you.
>>4139237You must be new here.
>>4139235Hey at the end of the day Bradley actually does his job, some people like him and he gets paid.
>>4139242I'm not, I've never seen brand new games getting banned on their first thread.
>>4139247the jannies must be having a panic attack right now
>>4139237They were pretty shitty during the dry day 2 release. This is admittedly low for even them, but its not enough to make me lay down. Video game discussion is allowed
>>4139249>They were pretty shitty during the dry day 2 releaseYeah, but this is worse.>, but its not enough to make me lay down. It doesn't make me want to lay down, but it does make me wish death upon the site.
>>4139250Alright fair. This is indeed a new low of patheticness from them. But yes, my fighting spirit shall perseverance.
>>>/v/750298643>immediate deletion
>>4139250It makes me wish for an slow and painful death for the entire moderation team, killing them should be legal
>>4139206It mentioned the forbidden game, which as we know immediately gets the jannies attention>It was a different titleDoesn't matter, even containing part of the word counts. Also uty is probably also on their radar
>>4139258It was always on their radar, pretty sure at this point they're prepared to delete anything UTY or fangame related.
>>4139250>>4139254I've been on these threads since the start, this is definitely the most mentally ill the tranny jannies have ever gotten, Deltarune CH5 dominating the /v/ catalogue gave them a mental break down and they never recovered
>>4139254You areA perseverantLittle soul.
Jannies are FUMING right now
>>4139271If only they were Feumming instead
Another thread someone made just got deleted. They genuinely prefer ai shitposts over video games.May be easier at some other hour since they want TOTALLY ORGANIC GTA thread spam right now.
>>4139271What happend?
>>4139272Nta, got a much needed chuckle out of me.
if u guys want I could answer some questions here, I just got home so I have lots of time
>>4139277Why does /v/ hate us
>>4139277Geltarune dev?
>>4139277GELtarune anon?
>>4139273A lot of S&box and Bioware spam too. I say spam because there's multiple of those bait threads where they say something they know everyone on 4chan disagrees with to get the reply they want threads up about them right now.
>>4139279>>4139280ya
>>4139277How long was the full demo meant to be before you had to cut it down to meet the deadline? How long until it gets a public release?
>>4139281>BiowareNTA, but to be fair, that was a pretty big recent thing that just happened, I don't really think it's unreasonable to be making threads about it right now.Especially with insane stuff like [picrel] going on, I think it makes sense people would still be talking about ir for a while.
>Error: You are temporarily blocked from posting for violating /v/ 1 - Off-Topic, Not Vidya.This is just embarrassing, games made by local anons aren't on topic anymore?
>>4139267They've been mentally ill for way longer than just c5's release, it's gotten worse, but there's absolutely other shit they've been retarded about for longer than just this year.
>>4139283I plan on playing it tomorrow, but when I do, I was interested in sharing the demo with a friend. You ok with that or are you wanting it exclusively here for now.
>>4139285Yeah, but its specifically them being low quality bait threads about Bioware and there being like five of them, rather than one good thread about it.>Especially with insane stuff like [picrel] going onWhat's that?
>>4139283oh hey, cool to see you here, a shame Jannies are acting like complete subhumans right now.Do you have any plans for some other new gameplay mechanics? I thought the anger state was cool as an alternative to sparing/tiring enemies but with a tradeoff
>>4139290>Yeah, but its specifically them being low quality bait threads about Bioware and there being like five of them, rather than one good thread about it.Eh, fair enough.>What's that?A joke that didn't land.
>>4139290>What's that?nta, that's just a joke from the Mass Effect threads, its a cringe edgy message an assassin sends you after he runs away from you in a cutscene, the thing is that the message has the tittle "Evacuating Thessia, From: Asari Military Command" to trick you into thinking its a message sent by the military of the planet from the last main quest (the one where you fought the assassin).
You all can have this.I haven't actually played the demo by the way, but I figured this was worth a shot.
>>4139284the demo was meant to go all the way up to the first boss at the end of the dungeon area. i def wanna upload the game to gamejolt if I finish the chapter so there's a complete experience>>4139288by all means share it, it's free>>4139291i have another pesudo SOUL mode planned but aside from that I don't have anything very spicy, I am not a super experienced UTDR player so I try to be careful with what I come up with
>>4139295you did good, the Jannies are just having another mental breakdown, we can always try later
>>4139297>i def wanna upload the game to gamejolt if I finish the chapter so there's a complete experiencehow much of the chapter is left to complete?>SOUL modeInteresting, I think you could also do some cool stuff with Kiaos since he doesn't have an attack button
I've come to think of Undertale and Deltarune as scrimblo RPGs, because they have the little marketable animal scrimblo bimblos like the old platformers had, but in an RPG instead.I think I've talked about other scrimblo RPGs before, as a genre, but now I'm thinking about the origins of the genre. Of course there's Earthbound, but there's a lot of RPG maker inspiration too, which makes me realize there's probably a lot of proto-scrimblos to be found in RPG maker games.What's got me thinking about this is a game called Crowscare, which has a cute little scarecrow fella in it who reminds me of Ralsei, he has the same kind of cute factor and similar fashion sense. He even has a light and dark mode. The game itself is just an RPG maker horror game, but it has some cute moments, and has some of that cute urban fantasy hometown feel like Deltarune has. Its much more anime with its style than Deltarune is though, not really having any furries or proper monsters. Closest it has is an evil crow witch (her son is pictured here).You anons know of any proto-Undertale scrimblo games made in RPG maker, or just in general?
>>4139294Well what's the joke?
>>4139304That you got that message instead of whatever you were probably expecting.
>>4139304You say something like "Pic related explains this topic" and you post that image with an spoiler to trick anons into thinking your image was relevant, just like the assassin sending you that message with that tittle.
>>4139297>the demo was meant to go all the way up to the first boss at the end of the dungeon area.How much additional playtime would that be?
>>4139299dungeon area, 2 areas and light world segments, I want those done last as I'm a very inexperienced background spriter atm. I don't have too much planned for kiaos at the moment but I might steal spell ideas from DR if future chapters give you new utility spells>>4139307not super sure, I'm still drafting the flow of it but it'd probably be a little shorter than field
So is there a thread up now, or did people just stop posting?
>>4139314Wait.
Man the Futility dev just went crazy it seems, posting random memes and unrelated stuff. But they posted this pic in their latest shitpostDoubt the design doc is coming anytime soon though
>>4139318They post anything of actual substance?
>>4139319Only this alongside another meme, also they changed their avatar to a meme goku pic
>>4139322>green and purple
>>4139318A shame she will never be a real character, she had pretty nice legs, oh well, she was going to be a lesbian anyway
>>4139322>Inb4 he's going to "revive" the project again
>>4139322Honestly, I don't know why they didn't just make a comic if they cared more about designing and drawing their characters than they did about actually making a game.Then again, maybe they didn't care about making much of anything at all.
>>4139330people should make sprite animations of their game ideas like those "movies" people make where berdly and noelle join the fun gang during a chapter, those are my guilty pleasures
>>4139332How do you make those, anyway?
>>4139330Probably because he wanted to be the next UTY, comics don't get as much attention as full fangames, so if you have a bunch of OCs in your comic they won't get the same amount of fanarts or fanfics as if they were in a fangame
>>4139336Yeah, but he didn't actually want to make a game either, judging by all the nothing that came from his "development", so I'm not really sure what he was going for here.
>>4139335Idk, I think some people just straight up make them in game enginesthat meat factory animation that one dude did is a bit rough but the writing and ideas kinda make up for it
I'm listening to the DR Hallow's Eve Hack OST again, and I find myself reminded of how my favorite character, Jericho (RIP, miss you big man), literally got xenomorphed by Kris in that game.He has a good theme though.
>>4139336>>4139340Ambition past one's skill and commitment is quite a killer.
>>4139340I think he really liked the idea of making his own fangame but quickly lost motivation once he realized that making a whole game requires more than just some sprites, he kept the lie going probably because he didn't want to admit the game was never going to get made, hom saying that he had an entire area demo finished but didn't want to ppst ut because reason was just insane.
>>4139350>Ambition past one's skillI mean, I think all the devs here have admited that they have limited skills, even if they can excel at one particular area, yet that didn't stop them.
>>4139285you got me with a fucking kai leng post in the year of our lord 2026, this has to be illegal
>>4139355Ha, owned.
>>4139301LISA, OFF and Mogeko Castle are the only RPG Maker games I've played, I don't think OFF qualifies, it has some weird creatures but none of them are cute, the mogekos from Mogeko castle are cute I guess, but they are literal rapists so they wouldn't fit with the scrimblo category
>>4139375>but they are literal rapists so they wouldn't fit with the scrimblo categoryThat didn't stop Dess>OFFThat was a big inspiration for Undertale. Papyrus was originally based on Dedan, visually at least.
>>4139377Dedan inspired Papyrus who is a scrimblo, but Dedan doesn't qualify as a scrimblo, if that makes sense.
>>4139377>Papyrus was originally based on DedanNTA, but I still think it's funny how most UF takes just turn Papyrus back into Dedan, seemingly on accident.
>>4139387What is Underfell Papyrus usually like?
>>4139390Most of the time, he's a bossy asshole who'll threaten to kill Sans (who is usually just his lackey with no spine) when he considers him incompetent, and is generally a massive piece of shit.Like Dedan.
>>4139390>>4139399I've liked portrayals where he has very high standards for killing the protagonist and therefore puts off his fight like regular Papyrus does, while Sans is much more dangerous since he'll sadistically try to kill you any chance he gets.
>>4139400Those are good, but the only one I've seen that really felt like Papyrus (and Sans if we're talking about him too) was in that dead UF comic take called Sans hates women. That one was pretty damn good.
>>4139400>while Sans is much more dangerous since he'll sadistically try to kill you any chance he gets.You liked Deltatraveler?>>4139399I think that dynamic would work better if Sans is largely the same, just being an irreverent sarcastic ass, while Papyrus threatens him and blusters, because they both know he's bullshitting. I guess if we had to make Sans "fel" then he'd just being half assing attempts to kill you and never offering you any real assistance, since he thinks it doesn't really matter what happens with your soul.
>>4139402>I think that dynamic would work better if Sans is largely the same, just being an irreverent sarcastic ass, while Papyrus threatens him and blusters, because they both know he's bullshitting.Hence why I don't think it works most of the time, since a lot of takes on UF Sans have him as a completely cowardly henchman to Papyrus, so their relationship is completely different.
>>4139402Never played that. The only example I can think of is Flowerfell where he torments the protagonist in a number of messed-up ways until he starts thinking about what he's doing.
Imagine if Roba took you on a date to a fancy restaurant that serves food in the traditional monster style. You get there, and its a black tie affair, with classy dinner music and fancy dishes you've never even heard of before. Then you get your food, and Roba shoves her face in the food and starts going *schlop* *schlop* *schlop*
>>4139405That could just be how some monsters do things, you don't know.
>>4139404>Never played that.Well its got exactly what you described, and its the edgiest thing I've ever seen in my life.
>>4139406Still, just imagine if that was actually monster fine dining. Or what if you were eating dinner at home with her, and she just starts schlop'ing away.
>>4139408Okay.
>>4139405Hey, when in Rome...
Here in a few minutes anons... > : )
>>4136519I found a softlock!You're able to go into the first jump-pad wet floor puzzle after solving it.
Threb : )
>>4139440I don't think the thread is getting the response you would've liked.
>>4139457I haven't even found it yet
>>4139430fuck I thought I had flags to turn them off when the puzzle was completeda lot of flags I thought I had set up just didn't pass it seems
>>4136519
>>4139478Amazing
>>4139463Unrelated, but I think hitman was a pretty good read
Is there a pastebin for /utg/ fangames?It would be cool to have a list of things that came from here.
>>4139618this is not /utg/we do not associate with /utg/we will NEVER associate with /utg/
>>4139618We're not /utg/.There's a rentry archive for fangames that came from *here*, but not /utg/.
>>4139621>>4139620I forgot the shorthand, oops. Could you post the rentry?
Bradley is what Riley would be if he won that tournament
>>4139622https://rentry.org/mtt-fangames-neoGet it right next time, tourist.
>>4138891>>4138840Hope you enjoy :)>>4139021I suppose my self-diagnosis of insecurity was correct, then. I got paranoid that I was neglecting the core of the story and the popular draw of the Clover/Martlet character pairing, and I couldn't quite bring myself to believe that people wanted to see /that much/ of things outside of it. I really should know better than to acquiesce to thoughts like that; I've said--and really do believe--that the situation in the Steamworks is the best case scenario for broadening and deepening the cast....Oh well. I'll take it as a lesson. Looking forward to your thoughts on it, and anyone else's. Despite the nagging sense of doing something wrong, I still feel like the chapter is healthy, and that you'll enjoy your time with it. But of course, if you have any complaints, I want to hear them. For those in the know, the side project is not the second chapter to /that./ But it is fangame related.
>>4139618>>4139620>>4139621has /utg/ even made a fangame? I thought they hated any non toby made ocs and stuff
>>4136998I enjoyed this heartwarming introduction. It seems coherent and clear enough to me and I'm looking forward to more chapters.>Let myself go, lost my job, our house got foreclosed.Darn it, that was going to be the plot hook for my next long fanfic. I guess great minds think alike.>StarloHow many old friends from college does Asgore have? Was he a frat bro?>having to deal with New England gun lawsPoor Cole>KanakoThis part confused me at first but I think I know what's going on. Cole, Martlet, and Starlo all lived in Eastwood. However, Kanako and her family have always lived in Hometown. For whatever reason, Cole was the one adopted by Toriel after Martlet lost custody, while the Ketsukanes have had Kris. Without Cole's influence throughout her life, Kanako's personality is very different and resembles Nagatoro. The lack of shared canon with DRY threw me off at first but I respect your interpretation, taking this in a different direction while still staying true to UTY.
I also read the latest Reynault story. The description of the action is great and fluid, and Reynault's thoughts are well-presented along with the occasional French. Love the environmental descriptions. The twist at the end is quite creative too. I've noticed there's no description of the pursuing monster other than it is quite large, and that's disappointing.>reversing enemy movements breaks enemy's neckThat didn't make much sense to me because trash cans aren't that much of a physical hazard. Even a full trash can thrown at you is unlikely to break your neck, let alone lying down and accidentally turning your head against one.
>>4139746I think what was supposed to be happening, is that since the guys movements were completely reversed, when he tried to brace for his own fall he would have leaned his head towards the ground/done the opposite of everything you'd normally want to do to lessen a fall
>>4139746Perhaps if he struck his head on the rim, right at the base of his skull.
>>4139718>How many old friends from college does Asgore have?Well, he's good at making friends, don't he? Chujin is another one, actually.>However, Kanako and her family have always lived in Hometown. I'm not sure I'll be able to fit their complete backstory in the fic, but Chujin and Roba actually grew up in a city, and in a pretty bad neighborhood too. Chujin was part of a tech start-up with some humans he met at college, but he got ousted from it (naturally, he blames his partners, but really everyone was at fault there). Asgore invited him to move to Hometown, Starlo invited him to Eastwood, and since both options looked good, Chujin and Roba ended up tossing a coin for it.>Without Cole's influence throughout her life, Kanako's personality is very different and resembles Nagatoro. As I said, I was dissatisfied with current characterizations of Kanako and wanted to make my own take of her that could be used in DRY as well I guess she is kinda similar to Nagatoro, though I didn't had that in mind when I was making her - I see Cole as a typical cowboy type of character, stoic but not humorless, so Kanako should contrast him to make for an interesting dynamic. Also there is a big issue with her personality, which I hinted already, but will reveal more directly in future chapters.
>>4139718>>4139772I don't think Kanako and Cole would still be friends if they haven't met in childhood
>>4139772>Chujin is another one, actually.I don't think they would be friends.
Do you really not have a proper fight with Bastelect? Would be cool if the demo ended with a miniboss, instead of being "that's it!"...
>>4139746Oh, didn't expect anyone would care much for that one.I suppose I can give you some answers, now that I'm actually here, despite the current state of things.>I've noticed there's no description of the pursuing monster other than it is quite large, and that's disappointing.The monster itself wasn't particularly important to the story, at least at the time I wrote it. It was more a means to an end to show off the idea I had, so it just needed to be large, and threatening. Its actual physiology and appearance were secondary to that purpose. I get being disappointed at it being so generic, I'm just explaining why it was that way to begin with. >reversing enemy movements breaks enemy's neckThose other anons explained it right. The monster had his bodily "controls" reversed, and when he started falling, did the exact opposite of what he wanted to do to catch himself, and ended up breaking his own neck. A bad fall can kill you fairly easily, after all. *Can*, at least, not always.>The description of the action is great and fluid, and Reynault's thoughts are well-presented along with the occasional French. Love the environmental descriptions. The twist at the end is quite creative too.Thank you. I'm glad at least those things worked here, and I hope the story was enjoyable enough.I have different feelings on Oldentale and that character now compared to when I wrote it, and I haven't cared to speak on anything regarding them for a little while now, but it is nice to see someone speak of my work like this, even a while after it's been made, even if there's more negatives to say than positives.Thank you.
>>4139851maybe there will be one later with her true form
>>4139874Your writing style is very technically skilled and the story deserves more attention. I don't like making comparisons but the skill level is higher than the Deltarune Annoying Fox story. Please, write more.>I get being disappointed at it being so generic, I'm just explaining why it was that way to begin with.I understand. There's merit to keeping it vague. For threatening monsters it may be worthwhile mentioning imposing features like teeth, claws, or muscles, and letting the reader's imagination fill in the rest.>Those other anons explained it right. The monster had his bodily "controls" reversed, and when he started falling, did the exact opposite of what he wanted to do to catch himself, and ended up breaking his own neck. A bad fall can kill you fairly easily, after all. *Can*, at least, not always.I was retarded and it didn't realize that. Reading it again, it's obvious. Again I like the soul reversal power.>even if there's more negatives to say than positives.My impression is overwhelmingly positive and I thoroughly enjoyed your work. I just don't tend to go over every detail, and just focus on those that stand out to me the most.
>>4139886Thats unfortunate. She says that she will refight you once she has got enough nails for both of you and the geezers talk about a nail thief in town, so I thought you would fight her again in the demo.I think the Naranja demo would be much worse if you didn't get to fight Pastra at the end, but maybe my expectations are too high
>>4139886>spoilerI hope its sexy
>>4139897>Your writing style is very technically skilled and the story deserves more attention.Well, that's the first time I've heard that. I've never really considered myself to have a specific writing "style", but I suppose that's a similar sort of thing to how most people don't inherently realize they have an "accent", they just consider themselves to speak how they do as being natural.>spoilerI have no clue what that is.>Please, write more.Thank you. I plan to, I do have some ideas I've been meaning to get around to, but I mostly do drawings more than anything else.I've written a handful of things, though they usually have different natures to them. I wrote those Luzma/Anon greens earlier in the thread, for comparison. I don't honestly consider myself to be too much of a writer in general, only really occasionally making things when I have an idea I want to do something with, that I don't feel I can convey through a drawing instead.>I understand. There's merit to keeping it vague. For threatening monsters it may be worthwhile mentioning imposing features like teeth, claws, or muscles, and letting the reader's imagination fill in the rest.Yeah, that's fair. I think I imagined the monster being roughly humanoid, since anything too exotic probably wouldn't have been as susceptible to a bodily injury like that. Muscles probably would have been the natural trait for it to have, yeah, some big meathead. >I was retarded and it didn't realize that. Reading it again, it's obvious.It's alright, I probably could've conveyed things a bit better there. Hindsight, and all.1/2 (I forgot how short these have to be here.)
>>4139897>Again I like the soul reversal power.Thank you. I had the idea while thinking about Reynault absorbing my (as in, specifically my own) soul while thinking about some other things. I'd been having some conversations with the Librarby anon while in exile, which is also what spawned that one Reynault/Anon hurt/comfort story they wrote in that time, so the concept of Reynault going around with my severely damaged and weakened soul was something I spent some time thinking about. I imagined my soul would be more suited to giving him powers related to trickery and messing with other people, rather than just giving him raw power to obliterate people directly, I wanted something that fit him. I had some ideas for a rough followup to the story I wrote, but I don't currently intend on returning to things relating to Oldentale anytime soon. Don't worry about it.>My impression is overwhelmingly positive and I thoroughly enjoyed your work.Ah, I see. Thank you.>I just don't tend to go over every detail, and just focus on those that stand out to me the most.Fair enough, I understand. I'm very glad that you were willing to read it, so long after it was first posted. I imagine digging through the archives for it was bothersome. I apologize.
>>4139929>I imagine digging through the archives for it was bothersome. I apologize.nta, I liked what your wrote too and I think your prose is pretty good, that story should be archived on the Librarby now that you're here.
>>4139940I have separate reasons for not wanting it to be preserved now, along with the other thing I'd written around then.
>>4139787There are actually two pretty serious reasons why Kanako gravitated towards Cole in this AU.>>4139825All their reasons for animosity are exclusive to UT universe. Maybe they aren't BFFs like Asgore and Rudy, but they were a part of the same friend circle
>>4139718>nagatoro kanakodamn, should have thought of that
>>4139948>two pretty serious reasonsYou are not going to tell what it is, won't you?I think Kanako who grew up without Cole would be a very different person, and would probably be more like Chujin then the Roba. Probably even more racist than him
>>4139921>I have no clue what that is.It's this >>4136998I also like it but it lacks the flourish and sentence structure you have. You both have a lot of promise.>I imagine digging through the archives for it was bothersome. I apologize.I actually kept the link all week until I was able to find time to catch up. Well worth it.>>4139943Please anon. Preservation of art is important. You'll feel differently about it in the future.>>4139948I just don't see their personalities vibing. Asgore and Rudy are extroverted, open-minded, and nonchalant about their family legacy. Chujin is an introvert, racist, and puts such high priority on his pedigree that Kanako openly brags about her genes. Then again, Asgore and Rudy are both close with Carol who places slightly less on those scales than Chujin so who knows.
Futility dev just posted this
>>4139955>was to be a deconstruction of prequel games and how people try to claw their way into learning about a past that was never meant or needed to be toldthere never was a design doc.
>>4139960UT futility meat factory NOOOOOOOW
>>4139960how can you deconstruct prequel fangames when only UTY really managed to cross the finish line?
>>4139962He did deconstruct at least 1 fangame, that's for sure. Not even a design doc remained after
>>4139963
>>4139953>It's thisOh, that. I never read that, since stuff like that isn't really my thing, though I mean no offense by that at all if it's your thing, or to the author.>I actually kept the link all week until I was able to find time to catch up. Well worth it.Ah, I see.>Please anon. Preservation of art is important. You'll feel differently about it in the future.Maybe. But it's how I feel now.I still feel ridiculous thinking about how much time I spent on all that, only to be met with what he said.It's not worth getting into, but it still hurts.Maybe if I feel differently in the future, it can be archived then. Only then.I appreciate your interest though.
>>4139955What are the chances he just made that up and futility was never meant to deconstruct prequels?>>4139962I think he meant prequel games in general
>>4139969I don't think he made it up, but he said it in such a vague way that it doesn't really matter.
>>4139948>All their reasons for animosity are exclusive to UT universe.I just feel like their personalities would clash. Asgore's a very casual guy, and a very nice one. He doesn't like to take things seriously and likes to let things go. Chujin has an ego about him, and takes things very seriously. I have the feeling he would resent Asgore for being so "lazy" and "irresponsible" and yet making off better than him. And Rudy's joking, I don't think he would take it well at all. He might not say anything, but he'd hold a grudge over it.Plus Chujin is a nerd, while Asgore and Rudy seem like they would've been more jockish in school, they probably wouldn't have been part of the same circles. At most I could see them being neighbors in a dorm. Like Chujin and someone next to Asgore and Rudy.
>>4139955Its an interesting premise, but it is funny that that the story about how prequels don't need to and were never meant to be told ended up never being told.I could see something similar to this being good in a better writer's hands. Though just about any premise can be good in a sufficiently competent writer's hands. Whatever, I think its interesting.>I wonder if anyone working on a prequel game ever thought to deconstruct the genre of prequels I did have a similar idea, though moreso just in the area of being a deconstruction of prequel fangames than this specific deconstruction.
Asgore and Rudy gave their dormmate Chujin oregano to smoke telling him it was weed not knowing he was allergic to oregano and he ended up in the hospital missing his study date with 'roba
New Futility art, comment from dev:>a while back for fun i wanted to redesign the cast, but after finishing Area 1's, i stopped, i kinda like the Ogs too much
>>4139962UTY is hardly the game to tell a prequel story. Just to give an example, Star Wars in almost entirely prequels. For every sequel or spin off novel, a dozen prequels will get written later about their characters and locations (like Zsinj dying in his first appearance, then later being a recurring antagonist in the X-Wing books). The Clone Wars notably aired out of order, with episodes in season 3 taking place before season 2, and episodes in season 1 being completely out of order. Even the movies released and continue to release out of order.You have stuff like Deus Ex Human Revolution, the archetypal example of a pointless tacked on prequel. Good though it may be, it really was tacked on. Bioshock Burial at Sea, another tacked on prequel.
>>4139953Maybe Chujin was friends with Carol and ended up knowing Asgore and Rudy through her. She's a weeb and has similar values to him (except for how human-pilled she is).
>>4139991Lmao
>>4139991So what are the OG's in this context?
>>4139997The designs in the actual Futility cast I assume, pic related
>>4139996Is this the futility dev? Again, cool premise, but he's not doing it.
>>4139999>Is this the futility dev?Yes
>>4139998But he redesigned them a dozen times.
>>4139996they should make this only if Kris and Berdly kiss on screen
>>4139990>oreganoDamn I read it as ohegao
Ok, part four of my pseudo Deltatraveler FF5 draft is basically done and I think i might have gotten a bit carried away with how long it turned out, I kinda spaced out and just kept writing, by the time I was done I looked back and realized just how much I actually wrote, didn’t really expect to have so much to say about this part by I guess I was wrong, should I just post it already? Or should I wait?
>>4139991>but after finishing Area 1's, i stoppedAh yes, the totally real area 1 that he didn't release any footage of because he didn't feel like it
>>4139991Futility Dev actually refrained from a total redesign? Hold the presses!
>>4140013Maybe you should turn it into a proper fic, with prose and formatting.
>>4140016Maybe some day in the VERY distant future, but for now I’m writing it like this to specifically avoid making it an actual fic, I simply don’t think I have the ambition or talent (or patience really) to make something of substance out of this so for now this mapped out skeleton will have to do.
>>4139955This always reoccurring "player/fan conceptual masochism" theme in the UTDR series and community is getting really old.I get I'm bad for caring about this thing in the wrong way, how many times this has to be hammered on?
>>4140023You don't have to be bad for caring about it, you know. Just because you caring for them causes the characters pain doesn't mean its bad. They never would've existed at all if it weren't for your care, which arguably is even worse than living and dying.
>>4140023>in the UTDR seriesI mean, UT doesn't really do that at all, even all the way up until the genocide ending it acknowledges that you're probably not even evil, you're suicidally "curious" or could have any number of extrinsic motivators for why you would do fucked up shit and can't really be held to any sort of moral standard by any of the characters in game. With the only downfall really being a logical consequence of that kind of person being a great vessel for someone like Chara who is actually straight up evil.DR does on some level actively acknowledge that you are fucked up because there is no sort of mystique or reward to being a snowgrave fag (nor can you pretend there is one given how widespread the issue of being a secondary to vidya is now) and Noelle is on the shit of turning you into source of power from the get go and you're actively pushing against Kris who doesn't want that rather than being more of a self insert like Frisk.
Also at full risk of getting whacked again for acknowledging it, finally back after getting shadowbanned for months, Geltarune's playtest/private demo was a lot of fun.
>>4140088Its got nothing to do with what you post. Its just an automated bot that checks your ip, user agent, cookies, and how frequently you post, and arbitrarily blocks you based on those.
>>4140109Yeah, no it ain't and I'm not interested in pretending it weren't or having a whole conversation about this hypothetical situation that does not reflect reality. It'd be convenient if it was though.
>>4140120It uses a points system to decide how much it bullies you, the reasons it gives are always lies. I suppose it is possible, and not unlikely, that the moderation have a way to artificially add points to your persona non grata score to make it target you more.
And that was the one thread we get this time.
>>4140139it wasn't half as terrible as the one guy was acting like. we discussed video games for the majority of it
It's not goofing off,it's character and level design!and appropriating a steam ad for the background and pose
>>4140140Could've been better.Had a few guys come in complaining about Garth Ennis for some reason.
>>4140142Is he doing heroin in a giant spoon?
>>4140142ayyy nice.
>>4140146He's cooking something up.Ignore the fact I forgot to color toriel's countertop and era-appropriate heating appliance
>>4140150This is Toriel's house?
One and done this time around, or are we trying one tomorrow also?
>>4140160I wouldn't be opposed to having one tomorrow.
>>4139953>Well worth it.Mulled over this for a time, I don't believe I gave any particular response to it in my initial reply.I was quite surprised to hear such positive things about something I'd written, at least like this. I believe that story is the second or third longest thing I've written like this, behind that one NSFW Ceroba story I'd written, and possibly tied with another story about Reynault I've never posted here, and never will.I'm surprised it was good enough to be "well worth" waiting for, frankly. I appreciate your words. I can't say in good faith that I will write something like this again, at least anytime soon. Aside from the primary issue I have, I also don't tend to write "action" or things like this in general, most of my writings have been much shorter, and of a generally different tone and "genre", I suppose one might say.In any event, I greatly appreciate your encouragement and kind words, even if I am sorry to say that you shouldn't expect too much else like this from me going forward, at least for a time.Thank you.And, sorry to reply twice on the matter. Stuck with me, is all.
>>4140159I'm trying to storyboard how the start of the game goes. I will now spam spoiler text. So far I've got a fun old man Loox with dementia and also purely good intentions. His grandkids, "Looker, Iris, Altear and Beholden C." all look after him while he takes his strolls, afraid that one day he'd fall down and they'd never find him again.Since Sa'ni decided to bring his Herbology encyclopedia with him when he jumped, he may be able to whip something up that can help treat the poor Old Loox. It's just a temporary treatment, as most human tends to be. It is enough however to help the Old Loox remember something very important:he's conversing with a teenager from the surface, and a magician's kid no less. It's same group responsible for destroying his family's future.On failing in his plot to poison Sa'ni with the golden flower tea, he accepts whatever fate Sa'ni has in store for him. It is possible to kill him at this point, letting Sa'ni learn magic much earlier than Armer... But, if you spare him, he's struck with immeasurable guilt. He can't give Sa'ni anything in return but his words and tears (which have a lot of salt when dried). Vowing to live his life to the fullest, he asks Sa'ni to accompany him to the King and Queen's house with honors and recommendation to become the royal apothecary's apprentice.On addressing Toriel as "Her Majesty" he immediately learns she is no longer in power and they have a laugh before everyone's invited in for non-toxic tea.Sa'ni could also just not give a heck and leave the old codger to his dwindling facilities. There's bigger fish to fry than helping a doddering old man; it may even be best to ease the burden he puts on his family altogether.
>>4140182>It's just a temporary treatment, as most human MEDICINES tend to be.Fug.
>>4140182>On failing in his plot to poison Sa'ni with the golden flower teaInteresting, I guess this is where the game uses the concept of kindness as something that can have negative consequences.
>>4140147thanksh>>4140186ye. hopefully it's a good harbinger for the really fun hell Sa'ni is going to go through as a passive-aggressive, compulsively plant-tasting weirdo
>>4140196Did anyone else play that "Dumpagame" that released two weeks ago and someone posted here? The one that involves a brazilian kid getting isekai'd to a world based on a discord server?https://dsansthedsans.itch.io/dumpgamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y22FZ9FTZeMI just played it and it was good from a production quality standpoint, the sprites were really pretty, and I liked the music as well, but the actual level design was very samey, the puzzles are insanely easy and repetitive, the rooms felt lacking in flavor text, the battles were good but there were way too many of them, I like UT's battle system but there was practically one fight per room and only 3 enemy types, the boss had some good attacks and the a good gimmick for how to beat him by acting, but as a character he doesn't have anything of substance to say. The characters in general have very little personality, and the story was pretty dull, the concept of being a discord server isn't used much either and there weren't many jokes, at least not ones that landed. As for gameplay mechanics there was actually two interesting concepts used in the game, one is that you have a TP system, but you can't use that TP yourself, instead you have one "party member" that automatically uses a healing spell whenever your TP maxes out, he can use it even during enemy attacks, the other mechanic was that some consumables items had a random chance to have an additional effect, like the basic healing candies having a chance to heal you more, I actually didn't like that one, I don't think random chance belongs in an UT/DR fangame. Pic related is the end of the demo in case you are asking, there's no cutscene or anything, you reach the start of the second area and you run into that barrier, this is how I discovered that the game is cancelled
>>4140199fuck, I didn't mean to reply to you
>>4140200too late the dopamine reached my amygdala it's over
>>4140199I tried it and couldn't get it to work on my pc
>>4140202I remember your post, you weren't missing much really, the game is cool from a technical standpoint but the story has nothing going for it, that's why I didn't mention any details, because there's none, its like the kid making it put all his skill points into coding and art and put none of them into writing and level design. It's not even that the story is so bad that its good or is cringe in amusing ways, its not even bland but genuine like Shu, its pretty much just water without any ice.
>>4140150You should add a meth cooking minigame to your gren game
She has captured another poor soul.Translation:“I thought I’d be able to finish *Undertale Yellow* in a single day, but I’ve already played for six hours and it’s still not over—just how much content is in this game?! (Thanks for that!) Also, Martlet completely stole my heart; I absolutely love her.“Although bear in mind after skimming through his profile it seems this jap artist is a MASSIVE birdfag in general.
>>4140216>this jap artist is a MASSIVE birdfag in general.If that icon's anything to go off of, yeah.
bird up
>>4140236What if Eric Andre fell into the underground?
Dordache?https://noz.rip/sketch/gallery#26897
>>4140239nice
>>4140239Love this little nigga
>>4140199>this is how I discovered that the game is cancelledThat's a fucked up way to announce cancellation
>>4140199well, I'll admit. Hearing about how they went about cancelling it, I think I'm glad I didn't have time to try it.
>>4140247>>4140255The github page of the game does mention that it was cancelled, but the trailer and the .io page don't say anything about it, and of course most people won't visit the github page because they have no reason to.
>>4140239Someone also drew a Geeza on the noz
>>4140263based
>>4140239>>4140263Nice
To the guy who really liked Lost Deltarune.Is there more than two endings? I watched a playthrough (I can't handle horror, so I didn't want to play it myself, and by the time I realized it wasn't that scary, I was already in too deep) and it didn't seem as special as you were hyping it up to be. The music was cool, but it didn't seem like it was doing anything new or interesting. It was basically just a retread of the true lab, but with pink and yellow googley eyes everywhere, and then a retread of the roaring knight at the end. And then optionally some intentionally vague FRIEND stuff. The music was good. The scares were downright goofy though, I genuinely got more scared anticipating jumpscares than I did by anything actually in the game. Plus it follows analog horror tropes to a T, to the point the new for Deltarune stuff still didn't feel all that interesting.I guess it was well put together for what it was, but what it was didn't seem all that interesting.Also, I still don't know what the logic behind the minibosses were. Like yeah they were some kind of amalgamates or corrupted lightners, but who were they originally?
>>4140263It took me until right now to get the pun in their name.
>>4140269Oh, I did like the UTY character cameos though. Ignore the zoomer on the top left, I grabbed this screenshot from a lets play.
>>4140271Why's everything tinted purple?
>>4140269Oh, and the part where it slid the window around was cool
>>4140272I don't know, to make things look more dreary. Or maybe it was just late in the day.
>>4140271>someone remembered the flower girlsguess its time to stop putting off my playthrough of lost deltarune.
>janny dug through the archives AGAIN to delete the thread that archived
>>4140287Huh?
>>4140288There was a successful thread this/Sunday morning that had a full lifecycle, and it was pruned some time after it
>>4140289I didn't even know you could prune a thread that was already archived, damn.I assume the thread's still viewable in the actual archives though, right?Like, it wasn't just completely erased somehow or anything?
>>4140290Yeah https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/750328603But if you try to look at it on-site, it's not there>>>/v/750328603
>>4140291>deltarune threadwhy are you posting this here? this is the fangame thread
>>4140291Oh, yeah, what?I thought you were talking about one of ours.Sorry yours got shelled after the fact, somehow, but that's not super relevant here.
>>4140292I keep tabs open for both threads and I got mixed up... Damn it
>>4140271Is the LP worth watching? After playing the game oneself, of course.>>4140290That is incredibly petty, just to deny being able to save images to anons who couldn't make it. But like anons said, that's not one of ours.
>>4140295You will be violently probed for this crime.
It's like some kind of Nozranjahttps://noz.rip/sketch/gallery#26914
>>4140306lot of empty space on the side there
>>4140308Admittedly I couldn't think of anything to put there.
>>4140306The boysFound this over there too
>>4140311I legit can't tell if that's supposed to be Yagi or Sue Sakamoto.Nice reference though, classic.
>>4140312Doesn't Sue have a large prominent scar on her face?
>>4140313Yeah, but maybe we're not working with that level of fidelity here.
>>4140314I'm gonna keep it real with you chief, I kinda can't play this game where we don't know who the little lint roll with the crown on his head is, here, and it's not simply because I'm very familiar with what Sue looks like because of the hats she takes every year.
>>4140315>I kinda can't play this game where we don't know who the little lint roll with the crown on his head isCould be anyone, really.>because of the hats she takes every year.Huh?
>>4140316Were you not aware about the thing that happens every 4chan Birthday/Christmas for the past 7 years I think we're on now?
>>4140318What, the party hats?What about them?
>>4140311Hell yeah
>>4140306That's a big Zaer
>>4140321
>>4140296>Is the LP worth watching?Not really. The guy has funny editing in his normal videos (well if you consider a spastic zoomer humor funny) but that was a livestream. I was mainly just using him as a meat shield for any scares the game might have. Only figured out after I finished the video that it didn't really have any effective scares beyond the opening cutscene. The guy is frustratingly stupid at parts and regularly ignores NPCs and objects that might give flavor text.It was fun watching him do Undertale, Half Life, and Deltarune in quick succession. If only to get a new perspective on them.Funny side note, but he wasn't even originally meant to be streaming that. He was supposed to be doing FNAF The Flipside, but someone in chat told him about Lost Deltarune and he got completely side tracked with it. Apparently he's also going to be doing UTY at some point.
>>4140311I feel like Yagi has the body language of an Anonymoose animation
>>4140319nta, but they use an image of her in the banners during the event
>>4140329Oh, didn't know about that. Alright, cool.Still need to fucking finish that game, true final boss is nuts.
>>4140327>Lost DeltaruneDid he seriously play that over Flipside?
>>4140311How is he so cool?
>>4139952Honestly, I just need start working on the next chapter ASAP.>I think Kanako who grew up without Cole would be a very different person, and would probably be more like Chujin then the RobaIn that particular AU, she had another important factor - she grew up alongside Kris. Chujin is also the type to spend too much time at work, so Roba would've been the main influence to Kanako.>>4139953>Kanako openly brags about her genesIt's not something that Chujin planted into her. She just knows that her mom is a looker, and Roba herself considers Chujin a perfect man in every regard, and is very vocal about that, so Kanako kinda waits for the moment when people will start throwing themselves at her feet.>>4139986>He doesn't like to take things seriously and likes to let things goCome on, his entire character arc in both games is about him refusing to let things go. And while he is usually easygoing, he seems to take his job seriously. There is a reason why Undyne still respects him deeply even after his fall from grace.>Plus Chujin is a nerd, while Asgore and Rudy seem like they would've been more jockish in schoolAsgore and Rudy had fun in college, but I don't think they were full-on fratboys, they still took their studying seriously, while Chujin, being ambitious, made sure to network extensively.
>>4140404>she grew up alongside KrisThat would either make her hate humans even more since the only human she knows does it as well, or she would be into Kris instead of Cole.Chujin would likely be hard on Kanako so she succeeds where he has has failed, but Cole helps her retain her "childish" part. But your AU can of course be just different I guess, although that interpretation is supported by some UTY dialogue.
I feel a certain self disdain over the fact I'm too genre fiction brained to be able to come up with the character writing I see elsewhere.
>>4140447>too genre fiction brainedwhat is this>come up with the character writing I see elsewherewhere else in particular? What are you aiming for?
>>4140450Well what can I say. I'm a plot guy, I like tropey stories. I don't have the sensibility to write character studies, which is the respected thing right now.
>>4140455>the respected thingI think I may just be retarded. I'll try and google but, I don't think there's anything wrong with tropes as long as you don't make the character boil down to nothing but a trope themselves. Sometimes rather than worry about the high and mighty stuff that is "respected" it's better to just focus on depicting them faithfully, and then putting your character through the excrutiator to see how they would react. If your character has tropes in their personality it doesn't necessarily mean they one haven their own reactions
>>4140447Are you trying to write a fanfic or something?>>4140455>>4140457Its literally imposible to write a story without tropes, every single little thing is a trope, you should think of character tropes as personality traits a character can have.
>>4140463Nta, but you can write a story by tropes, or you can first write a story in which others can find tropes.
Ceroba the traditional Japanese housewife. Made by an actual Japanese artist.
>>4140466that's a lovely image, thanks for sharing anon, I needed to see something like that today.Here's a new non JP Roba.
>>4140466Roba tardwife...
>>4140337He still did a video on the Flipside, he just did it a different day.
>>4140447Genre fiction isn't incompatible with character writing. All stories have characters. The proper term would be plot brained.Anyways, its not an unfixable problem. Just start studying characters. Think about characters you like, real or fiction, and pick them apart to see what makes them tick, then attempt to replicate that.
>>4140404>Come on, his entire character arc in both games is about him refusing to let things goHe doesn't let serious things go, but most of the time he's easygoing. Chujin is a very srsbsns type of person. He's also only ever stuck in intertia, doing the things he was already doing. Chujin actively seeks out new things to pursue. He may take things seriously, but his priorities are different, so Chujin wouldn't think he does.>while Chujin, being ambitious, made sure to network extensively.I still don't see a reason for them to be friends. Maybe Asgore was a friend of a friend, I could see that. Like I could see him knowing Asgore through Carol, who I could see him being friends with.
>>4140466
>>4140466Another Celoba-nee has hit the web.
Guys, I found my copy of Undertale Yellow at a garage sale and I think it's glitched. >>4135837Hey, that's my art. Glad to see it still being posted around even though I don't visit often. Should draw more Roba.
>>4140540>Hey, that's my art. Glad to see it still being posted around even though I don't visit often. Should draw more Roba.I'm glad to hear you still visit occasionally. there's a couple people I've seen here and there hoping to see more from you eventually.>picit's her, the one and only TheRoba
>>4140540Nice to see you here again, did you know one of our local devs (GELtarune anon) released a demo recently?
>>4135837Holy Robas>>4140540Nice art anon, you def should.
>>4140342He knows how to make a grilled cheese
>>4140540Holy shit, super smashing fighters
>>4140555I dont know what GEL is. Last time I was frequent there was 2 Deltarune Yellows and discussion about a snake shopkeepers feet and there was Orange Martlet.Did Sig finish his fanfic?
>>4140585Sig is still working on it, released another chapter recently-ish and is working on another in between his other fixations.there's a demo that's been out for a while for an undertale Naranja that's pretty good, That's where the snake shopkeeper comes from. GELtarune is another fangame that started production recently centering around a purple soul human wagie.>>4136519there's also some new anons working on fics and game ideas.
>>4140585>snake shopkeeper>feet
>>4140595Quetzali does have her anthro and her feral form after all.
>>4140595They are talking about Quetzali
>>4140596lame
>>4140599Does she have cute soles? Asking for a friend.There's also HissyBoots but no one remembers her.
>>4138787Should have time to read this sometime this week. Going to have a new laptop soon that should make reading away from my pc more pleasant. you should really post an image when you post these updates so more people spot them man, more people deserve to be aware of your story.I may even reread your story from the start sometime coming up. I need that recharge in good Martlet depictions.
>>4140603I remember her, I know Naranja anon does too since he said he plans to add a reference at some point.also dorito anon showed up again recently and was working on something but I wonder how/if things are going on that.
>>4140585>discussion about a snake shopkeepers feetAs one of the seemingly few anons around with a foot/paw/whatever fetish, I would be greatly interested to know when this occurred.
>>4140624I think he's talking about the debate that happened when the Naranja demo released, the one about whether or not Quetzali should be an anthro or a feral snake
>>4140627Hm. Could've sworn I remember that guy coming around more recently than that.Ah well.
Fuck it I’ll post it now.Prev. Part >>4137675This is part4 of the FF5 pseudo Deltatraveler scenario, this time I’m focusing on a bit of an optional encounter that I’m gonna make much more character-relevant. I hope this one will be interesting.After obtaining the Wind Drake the party can now travel anywhere inside the land bordered by mountain ranges.A lot of optional areas and secrets will open up but for now we’ll focus on what’s on the beaten path.The party heads to the kingdom of Walse where they seek to warn the king that their water crystal is in danger.They can pass by the town of Walse right next to the castle to resupply and have some interactions but visiting the town is entirely optional.When the heroes make it to the castle the guards express skepticism of their warnings but the presence of the Wind Drake helps legitimize their claims so they ultimately agree to let them in the castle and allow them an audience with the king.Note: the castle theme of FF5 kicks ass, I think I like it even more then FF6’shttps://youtu.be/nC17caBG0Zw?is=SVa2vmWvX7dZzYFQUpon entering the throne room the king greets them and wastes no time asking what they have to say.They explain what they have heard and sensed, that the elements are weakening and the elemental crystal may be in danger.The king doubts their claims exclaiming that there is no abnormality shown on their carefully guarded crystal, just then they hear and feel the strong rumbling of a sudden meteor falling.The meteor falls and crashes near the Walse tower where the crystal is kept, now knowing they were saying the truth the king apologizes and moves along his men to the tower to investigate.The team decide they can’t just sit by and do nothing, and chose to follow after them.Before or after the audience with the King of Walse the team will have the chance to explore the castle, talk with the guards and attendants, and discover its foreboding secrets.1/4
>>4140636Some more minor secrets to be found in the castle will include a trapped werewolf in the dungeon calling himself “The great thief Lone Wolf” who will asked to be let out, to which a funny argument between him and Susie will ensue about being innocent despite just admitting to being a thief.Other smaller secrets include the basement of the castle full of mysteriously empty corridors, though the mystery is soon solved if you explore down there as the party will be forced into a fight with the mighty Jackanapes who is so overwhelmingly strong you have NO chance of winning. (Ordinarily in FF5 you would run away from them after every encounter to obtain the treasures inside, but given that Deltarune doesn’t have a run button there are many ways one could handle this situation, I just can’t decide so I’ll leave it up in the air and move on)Lastly the most important secret will be hidden in the waterfall connected to the castle’s side waterworks, going inside will reveal a secret chamber that extends deeper in the castle, Noelle will chime in, expressing apprehension and uncertainty about going inside, after being reassured by her friends they all head inside together.Once inside the mysterious chambers the gang will discover battalions of ice soldiers guarding the inner chambers, they will wish to test if the gang is worthy and test them in combat.The soldiers attack with ice magic and other ice related abilities, and will sometimes come accompanied by giant elf toads who can use magic to turn party members into toads (this status effect prevents a character from using magic and massively reduces melee attack pretty much reducing all melee attacks to 1 damage).The soldiers will surrender and leave the first when they reach low health, and the elf toads can be pacified.After enduring the trials the party makes it to the inner shrine where an intimidating presence waits for them.2/4
>>4140540>Should draw more Roba.Yes you should, and you should give her an equivalently nice ass.
>>4140638With a flash of light the goddess Shiva shows herself covered in an aura of magic ice.She addresses the party directly, and commends them for making it to her chamber but soon directs her attention toward Noelle who intimated by her gaze quickly cowards behind Susie (not a sussele moment, Susie’s just big and scary so she makes for a good barricade).Shiva will express some disappointment at her cowardice but will recognize her strength and aptitude for ice magic, she will explain that with the right guidance and support she can become a formidable hero.Shiva offers the party a deal: if they can defeat her in a duel they will prove their worth and Noelle will be granted her blessing, if you accept her proposition, the optional fight against shiva will begin.3/4
>>4140585GELtarune is a local fangame that released a demo a few days ago.
>>4140641The fight will begin with Shiva summoning three ice soldiers to assist her the soldiers will act as a front line that will prevent you from being able to target Shiva, but she will still be able to attack herself.Once defeated Shiva will become vulnerable but will also accelerate her offense, after a while she will re-summon her soldiers and slow down her attack, but you will have to once again defeat them to reach Shiva.This cycle will repeat until she reaches critical health, once she reaches low HP she will encase herself in a shell of ice that MASSIVELY increases her defense, and will begin to wail on the party with constant magic attacks.Nothing the party tries works, until Noelle realizes this is her final test, resolving herself to succeed Noelle begins charging a powerful spell to break through the barrier, she will need time though so Susie and Kris stand in front to guard while she charges in the back.From this moment on, the main objective is to stay alive and Shiva’s attacks will become relentless.With only Kris and Susie you will have to endure Shiva’s onslaught of attacks, until Noelle is done charging.Once finished she will unleash her blast and obliterate the barrier, with a flash of light the fight immediately ends after it breaks.Shiva commends Noelle for her bravery and resolve and deems her worthy of her blessing, she chants a spell and with an icy spark Noelle is empowered with the essence of Shiva, unlocking new spells and powers, some offensive, some defensive, and some supportive.Shiva wishes the heroes luck and with one final flash of light she vanishes, her voice echoes one final time and professes that even when she’s gone an aspect of her, will remain with Noelle.With this final message from the goddess the party will leave the chamber, their resolve stronger than ever, and will head towards their next destination, the place where the water crystal resides, The Tower of Walse.PART4 END4/4
>>4140643FINAL THOUGHTS:WOW it was way longer than I thought, I guess I just had more to say about this part of the game than I thought, kinda funny that a castle that you can just enter do what you have to do and then leave had so many secrets and so many opportunities for shenanigans.This one was pretty fun to brainstorm, and would appreciate the input even if you don’t think you have anything of substance to say about it, I appreciate hearing any kind of thoughts about it.
>>4140644I'll give some input when I get off work later, but since you seem so passionate about FF, I do want to ask about your opinion on my own favorite FF character Rubicante
>>4140640Perchance.I just drew a Toriel butt recently too.
>>4140650When it comes to the four fiends of FF4 Rubicante is definitely my favorite, maybe my favorite of the whole franchise, he may work for Golbez and be an agent of evil but he still holds on to his sense of honor.He never loses his composure or lashes out when he loses because it always was in an honorable duel, and when he fails the first time to defeat you he learns from his mistakes and decides to use team work of his own.When it comes to the trope of the “Honorable Villain” he’s definitely a standout example.
>>4140660>When it comes to the trope of the “Honorable Villain” he’s definitely a standout example.my thoughts exactly, he epitomizes such a character type very well.I can't help but wonder if there is a small piece of rubicante in undynes inspiration, though incomplete as she doesn't measure up to his level of honor. and yeah I like how the teamwork for him isn't a sacrifice of his honor.
Where did that kid go...?
>>4140663Huh?
>>4140636>>4140638>>4140641>>4140643>>4140644>Some more minor secrets to be found in the castle will include a trapped werewolf in the dungeon calling himself “The great thief Lone Wolf” who will asked to be let out, to which a funny argument between him and Susie will ensue about being innocent despite just admitting to being a thief.Okay that was a bit funny.>Jackanapes who is so overwhelmingly strong you have NO chance of winning.I imagine you would have an act that lets you flee or one of the monster's attacks has some gimmick that works as a free flee option.>giant elf toads who can use magic to turn party members into toadsThis status effect should also turn your SOUL into a toad, it gives you gravity and jump like the blue soul mode but this one is shittier since it also reduces your speed.>With only Kris and Susie you will have to endure Shiva’s onslaught of attacks, until Noelle is done charging.So its kind of like the Flowery fight which removes Ralsei mid battle? Would you have acts that speed up Noelle's charge or something like that?
>>4140676Thou'est doesn't knoweth of true ludo cinemakino https://youtube.com/watch?v=7igkrXICjLk
Was playing another cutesy Halloween themed RPG maker game and saw something familiar. I leave it for your consideration.
>>4140722Oldentale Real...
>>4140604I realized I forgot the pic a few hours after I hit send :(Had to wrestle with things for an hour just to get the story posted and by that point it had slipped my mind. I couldn't verify my email to post because of a weird error that randomly went away for some reason. (I'm wrapped up in a perpetual IP range thingy and don't have a router to reset. I only have internet off my phone's hotspot.)The usual readers seemed like they saw it, so I figured everything was fine. But you're right, I post infrequently enough that there are people who haven't heard of the story. I'll post the usual pic belatedly.>rereadThis is a daunting thing to ask, and tell me "no" if it's too heavy an imposition, but if you go through with that, I'd be curious as to your thoughts on how my writing style and quality have changed. I've long wondered if something has been lost in translation as I've moved toward larger chapters (or, how large chapters loomed inexorably toward me, it feels like.) And if something has been lost, I'd dearly like to reclaim it.Thanks for reading, and I hope you enjoy chapter 18 when you have the time to sit down with it.
Cerbloka
J ust kidding
>>4140695>I imagine you would have an act that lets you flee or one of the monster's attacks has some gimmick that works as a free flee option.I was thinking of many different ways to do this part in a way that still shows the overwhelming power of the Jackanapes, this is a good compromise and I like the idea.>This status effect should also turn your SOUL into a toad, it gives you gravity and jump like the blue soul mode but this one is shittier since it also reduces your speed.Interesting idea, although I don’t know how I would balance it around those who aren’t Kris being turned into toads.>Would you have acts that speed up Noelle's charge or something like that?I pictured it more as an endurance confrontation of having to keep Kris and Susie alive while trying to avoid a scripted set of hard to avoid and heavy hitting attacks from Shiva, I would probably add ACTs that help endure better, things like increasing defense, healing a bit, increasing I frames, etc.
Gentlemen.I believe I've found it.The worst Martlet foot, of all time.Perhaps even worse than just a generic human foot.Behold.
>end of GELtarune CH1>bradley closed the fountain, a representative from upper management decided to stop by>Rep: "as thanks for saving this location we'd like to give you a complementary gift basket">it has several pieces of brand themed merchandise and a coupon book (the coupons are worse than what you could get by using the app)>B: "... i think i quit">R: "what?">B: "i risked my life to close that fountain... and what i get in return is a gift basket.">bradley turns to leave>R: "w-wait! we cant lose you">he stops>R: "what if this happens in a different location? we need someone that can close it!">bradley thinks about just telling him that any human can close the fountain, but he's curious about how far he could take this>B: "could i get a raise?">R: "we'll even promote you! DEL - darkness eliminating leader">B: "one dollar an hour for every dark world i close.">R: "50 cents">bradley turns to leave again>R: "ALRIGHT! I'LL BUMP IT UP TO TWO DOLLARS!">B: "oh wow you're actually desperate.">R: "yeah! we dont even know what organization a "dark world"s presence falls under. EPA? FDA? god forbid, the IRS starts taxing "dark dollars"?">B: "i'd also like immunity so that if dark worlds stop appearing i cant be fired, and instead get moved to a management position">R: "that can be arranged. anything else?">bradley decided to stop pushing his luck>B: "nope, thats it"
>>4140762>Had to wrestle with things for an hour just to get the story posted and by that point it had slipped my mind. I couldn't verify my email to post because of a weird error that randomly wentI really hate how difficult 4chan makes things sometimes.>The usual readers seemed like they saw it, so I figured everything was fine. But you're right, I post infrequently enough that there are people who haven't heard of the story. I'll post the usual pic belatedly.I know for new posters 18 chapters or more on some fics is a lot to go through, but it's worth it. I'd say it's important even if there's just the chance that someone would give it a shot that hadn't before.>This is a daunting thing to ask, and tell me "no" if it's too heavy an imposition, but if you go through with that, I'd be curious as to your thoughts on how my writing style and quality have changed. I've long wondered if something has been lost inI make no guarantee of when I might do this but yeah I'd be glad to write down my thoughts as I read through. I've got to make time to read through/play things that have just dropped recently before I start a reread, but it's been on my mind.I've been feeling burned ever since the fandom as a whole just gladly accepted the new Martlet sprites and how they characterized her, which disillusioned me some to how people saw her in general. I was reading another older fic from here that didn't focus Martlet, but I thought she was really well done in it, and I always enjoyed your depiction of her as well, and so I guess I'm wanting to go back to the start and re-examine what my favorite things were, alongside your story telling.That said, I've been greatly enjoying your chapters even as I've been angsting over the fandoms depiction of the bird. You write good stuff, even if the phantom of self doubt creeps in on you sometimes as it surely does us all.Also new Martlet art discovered
>>4140847>god forbid, the IRS starts taxing "dark dollars"?"heh, that's good.also based, first GELtarune green I think?
>>4140837That looks so wrong on so many levels
>>4140853Someone posted the full image in a catbox in a previous thread. I regret looking at it.
>>4140837I feel like it's trying to be "raptor" feet but with toenails instead of talons.
>>4140855Okay, NTA, but the full image isn't even super awful or anything, it's just kinda meh. It's just a threesome with Martlet, Undyne, and Asgore, it's nothing special, really.Aside from that specimen posted up there, anyway.
What is GEL an acronym for?
>>4140855I want to see it.And how would (YOU) want to see Martlet's feet?
>>4140860Giant Erotic Lizard
>>4140860Guest Experience Leader, they mention it in the game.
>>4140861NTA, but here's the full thing: https://e621.net/posts/6770989?q=undertale_yellow>And how would (YOU) want to see Martlet's feet?With her toes tied back in a set of stocks.
Futility dev confirmed working on something (don't get your hopes up)
>>4140866Someone should ask him to make a new gamejolt page for the design doc, start hyping it up some.
>>4140861NTA but even as not a footfag, I want her to have cute talons.
>>4140866Is this guy going to keep milking the Futility characters forever?
>>4140865huh...the image itself seems competent, and I'd call it hot if it wasn't x asgore (a pairing being dumb absolutely lowers its hotness for me), but god those feet genuinely look worse when viewed in contrast to the whole image.
>>4140871>I'd call it hot if it wasn't x asgore (a pairing being dumb absolutely lowers its hotness for me)Fair. I'm not personally a fan of threesomes myself, I prefer things to be monogamous and between lovers rather than just casual stuff like this between people with little chemistry, but more power to you if the only thing you'd want changed is Asgore being there.>those feet genuinely look worse when viewed in contrast to the whole image.Yeah, they're not great. I think it's worse that they're drawn in a way that implies her whole feet are feathered and fleshy, except for her claws. It's like the worst of both worlds between humanoid feet, and talons.
>>4140847>>R: "we'll even promote you! DEL - darkness eliminating leader">>B: "one dollar an hour for every dark world i close.">>R: "50 cents">>bradley turns to leave again>>R: "ALRIGHT! I'LL BUMP IT UP TO TWO DOLLARS!"That was funny. Is Bradley's boss literally Mr. Krabs?
>>4140861She should just have her normal bird feet and talons.
>>4140861not a feet guy but she should have talons
>>4140876>Fair. I'm not personally a fan of threesomes myself, I prefer things to be monogamous and between lovers rather than just casual stuff like this between people with little chemistrythat's fair, and yeah ultimately the closeness between lovers is the hottest, but yeah I can still enjoy some casual stuff myself.>but more power to you if the only thing you'd want changed is Asgore being there.and I don't even personally dislike Asgore. great character and all, the ship just does not work in my eyes.
>>4140807>Interesting idea, although I don’t know how I would balance it around those who aren’t Kris being turned into toads.They all become toads at the same time Susie and Noelle lose their magic button and Kris has that shittier blue mode on the soul.
>>4140877Maybe, monsters are confirmed to exist in GELtaworld, I wonder if we will see a monster partner sometime
https://rentry.org/mtt-fangames-neo#geltaruneI found a error in the fangames archive, it says that Geltarune released in October 10 when it was released on the 22.
>>4140886So Sorry!
>>4140886thanks for the heads up anon, fixing it now.
>>4140885>I wonder if we will see a monster partner sometimeGELtarune anon said that the game was going to be 1 "chapter" long with a small chance of making other chapters in the future, if the game ends with this dark world I doubt we'll get a monster party member.
>>4140847Does this imply he was getting paid less than a dollar an hour before?
>>4140892no, thats just how much of a raise he gets for every closed dark world.
>>4140858Why Martlet? Alphys would've been a much better pick.
>>4140862Do we have any monsters that fit that description?
>>4140866He's working on more vague posts
>>4140897Suziezilla but you must have the air around her smell like Deer.
>>4140897Zenith Quetzali
>>4140883Interesting suggestion, I like this compromise of taking the status effect from FF5 and simplifying them to work on the Deltarune battle formula, while adding a lair of complexity to the other aspect of Deltarune’s combat, that being the bullethell.
>>4140905>anon timed it to be precisely 1 second before cooldown ends so it will not be a samefagImpressive
>>4140901>DeerThis but only with smelly human boys or cute fluffy boys
>>4140905>>4140904But she's a snake
>>4140915She's a snake with arms and legs, that's close enough to a lizard
>>4140895I dunno man, I'm not the artist who made it.The artist seems to have some mild Vivziepop syndrome based on how thin everyone is here, maybe they couldn't have drawn her anyway.
>>4140904>>4140905what does that look like?
>>4140923Use your imagination.
>>4140897Yes.
>>4140923Imagine if she looked something like this.
>>4140929Impossible.She could never have breasts so large.
>>4140929
>>4140930The large breasts are a side effect of the DT boost
>>4140934DT can't do everything, some things are simply impossible no matter how much DT you have.
>>4140927But he's not a giant.
>>4140929Well she is a descendant of Quetzacoatl (probably) so a form like this would fit
>>4140936Wait until a macro fetishist gets their hands on him.
>>4140935You're only saying that because you don't have enough DT
>>4140939I'd actually rather not have tits, but you do you.
>>4140937It also fits because it would be a combination of both of her forms
>>4140941If you had more DT she would have tits
>>4140947Maybe I like her with small tits?
>>4140948I see... So you are the reason her tits are small.
>>4140952I like big tits most other times, but I like hers small.And you can't stop me.
>>4140953NTA but based
Just found this weird OFF styled Deltarune fangame where you play as Noelle https://gamejolt.com/games/deltarune_seraphim/1045914 I can't tell if its made in RPG maker, or just mimicking the style to look more like OFF.
>>4140919>Vivziepop syndromeI assume you don't mean that they say "fuck" before and after every word in a sentence.
>>4140954Thank you.Everyday I funnel billions of dollars to Naranjadev so he'll keep Quetzali's breasts small.
>>4140953>I like big tits most other times, but I like hers small.Actually I agree, I was arguing for the sake of arguing.
>>4140923Renji's bankai in Bleach
>>4140958No, in the sense that everyone in that image is way thinner than they really probably should be.
>>4140959
>>4140956It is actually made in godot, but still pretty impressive they recreated the feel of RPG Maker so well
>>4140959this is what big naranja doesn't want you to know.
>>4140919>The artist seems to have some mild Vivziepop syndrome based on how thin everyone is hereI looked at the gallery and the artist does draw a lot of Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss stuff
>>4140963Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
>>4140967God, really?Man, hit the nail on the head, didn't I?
>>4140963>>4140968We already have a solution for this, she can have huge boobs in her anthro form and be flat in the snake form
New birb spotted in the wild
>>4140970Sorry, the billions of dollars I funnel to Naranjadev say otherwise.She's small.
>>4140959I take all the billions for myself so Naranja doesn't know about that and keeps Quetzali's breasts big
>>4140974I'll just embezzle more billions of dollars from charities for terminally ill children to make up for it, you can't stop me so easily.
>>4140976Sorry pal, I've already spent that money on the Big Boob lobbying. You actually think that [Charidy] was going to [little slime]? What a predictable creachure!
>>4140971And I found a very tastefully underdressed Ceroba.
>>4140979>little slimeBedo took Quetzali's boobs?
>>4140979I'm afraid it's no use, anon.I've already redirected the money you redirected, except I redirected it to fund pro-big-boob terrorists in the middle east, who will in turn cause public opinion on big boobs to plummet, causing small boobs to become more popular in turn.You can't even fathom the scale of the game I'm playing here.
>>4140981No, Bedo's a big slime.Unless you mean vertically, of course.
>>4140980>>4140971nice, birds and foxes are quite nice you know.
>>4140981I think when Spamton says "little sponge" or "littler slime", he actually wants to stay little shit, but that gets censored.That being said, Bedo was the second worst thing that happend to those orphans
>>4140982Well, I will use my billions that I got from you trying to funnel to Naranja and then fund the freedom fighters even more so they actually win and impose big boob share-eah law (big boobs for everyone) on the entire world.
>>4140986>That being said, Bedo was the second worst thing that happend to those orphansWhy?
>>4140990Well the joke's on you anon, because I'm going to have those terrorists conduct their own big-boob 9/11, so that public opinion on big boobs will be irreparable for decades to come, forever altering the course of the 21st century and making people long for what could have been for their entire lives.And then I'll divert the rest of my money to the pentagon so we can spend the next 20 years fighting the terrorists I made, to tie up all the loose ends.Checkmate.
>>4140992Intense gaming seshs
>>4140995Anon... Did you get news from plain media? The 99/11 was clearly staged by the [[[small boob supporters]]]. In fact we've spent trillions of dollars to bomb innocent freedom fighters who only wanted big boobs, just because the Big flat and the Flat state was jealous. We must make America [BIG] again and drain the swamp that holds the true patriots down.
>>4141005I'm afraid you simply have no idea what the truth is, my dear anon.Your waifu will have flat boobs, and you will be happy.
>>4141006Let me guess, you also believe that the Earth is flat?
>>4141007Oh, no, the Earth is round, of course.For now...
New sprite anim https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef4H_PSL9UE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EbvqSmIGl8If any of you (including dry anon) is willing to investigate this, pls do. Found a supposed port with a android file. https://pan.huang1111.cn/s/E7EZqfb?path=%2F(hmm a chinese website, so a chinese person made this?)
>>4141011huh, I'm surprised with how much the community is about asking for permission first even for appearances
I have been working in a sweatshop for 18 hours a day forced to make kanacole pajamas
>>4141014Inshallah it will be 19 soon.
>>4141014and you didn't hook us up?
the mountains come out of the sky and they stand there
>>4141013well tbf I did tell people to make the port if they wanted toobut yeah it came out of nowhere for me too.
>>4141019>well tbf I did tell people to make the port if they wanted toofair. I don't think it's a bad thing since it's going to extend reach, I just figured it would have been more "seen it coming"
>>4141016I have not had a vegetable in 15 years
>>4141020> I just figured it would have been more "seen it coming"me too, me too.>I don't think it's a bad thing since it's going to extend reachYeah, I'm glad someone finally made it for that same reason.
>>4141021Will you hook us up if we give you a vegetable?
I totally forgot about trying to make a thread today. whoopsiedoodle
>>4141014Well I don't see mine anywhere. Get back to work.
>>4141025It's okay anon.You'll be flayed alive for 1000 years in the pit of torment for this, but it's okay.
>>4141028a fitting punishment, merciful even
>>4141029And also we're gonna tell your favorite waifu that you forgot to make a thread and she'll be mildly disappointed in you.
>>4141030Anon please, god no anything but that!
>>4141025Maybe try it tomorrow, they'll never expect it. Or just wait till the weekend.
>>4141032It's too late, it's already done.Now think about what how disappointed she'll be while you're being flayed alive for the next 1000 years, and work on your apology for when you get back.
>>4141035I may not have enough time to come up with a suitable apology in a time so short as 1000 years.>>4141033fair, I guess we'll just see how things go tomorrow. may be best to just try our best this weekend.
https://files.catbox.moe/qjr2ln.pngan attempt was made at this so called zenith snek
>>4141040oh holy shit. Look, while I do like the idea of flat snakes, that's some good cookin.
>>4141040Damn, fast work.Nice stuff there sig.
>>4141040Neat, but honestly not entirely convinced that really fits her too well. It looks good though.
>>4140929Holy sniddies. The peak of explorerkind indeed.>>4140930Anon, with determination and artistif freedom, *anything* is possible.>>4140959You are a monster, anon. And as such, I'll have no regrets sharing this absolute monstrosity with the thread.And before anyone says >fangames, I don't care, this thing popped up on my timeline and I feel compelled to share the curse.
>>4141040Holy shit, what a snek, Sig. Thank you for sharing it with the class.
>>4141044>You are a monster, anon.I like her with small breasts, and the lobbying will continue as such.>I'll have no regrets sharing this absolute monstrosity with the thread.That Noelle's just making me imagine a Noelle Vinerizon.
>>4141046Men can have different tastes, but funnelling money to further your agenda destroy anon's free will. As such, I shall have to stop you, by once again drawing her with fat tits in the future.
>>4141048Well the alternative is funneling money to terrorism, or to cancer funds. As in, funding cancer to make it more effective.I pick my battles well.>As such, I shall have to stop you, by once again drawing her with fat tits in the future.By all means, do as you wish.But the truth is already decided.
Wasn't able to get much work done on my current project today, but it approaches its conclusion.The lineart is nearly done, and when that is done, the coloring will follow soon after. Shading may take time.Based on the current rate of progress, I would say it is possible I will have it done in time for the weekend, potentially. It will be the first fully new image I have created for these threads since the end of my exile. I hope it will be enjoyable enough.Goodnight.
>>4141055Rest well anon.>>4141050One man who is not the dev shall not decide the fate of snitties.
>>4141057>one manI'm sorry anon but he's got the entire army of anonymous paid off. I hear that they are legion or something.
>>4141040Sig, you're the reason why I can't blacklist hyper tag on dark blue website.
>>4141040i enjoy.
>>4141040leaked art of naranja's geno final bosshow do those breast scales work?
>>4141058Then I shall fight against all, for glorious big snitties.>>4141059A damn good reason I would say, anon.>>4141061It's magic and determination.
>>4141065>A damn good reason I would say, anon.But the problem is, Sig is literally the only artist whose hyper stuff is actually good and does not makes me want to stab my eyes with a fork and pour bleach inside.
>>4141075That's a shame, I think there are other artists who draw hyper tits well too, but then sadly there are thise that draw 'em too big and bad.
Solar Ceroba
>>4141097What if Cerober had relatives.
>>4141098Earth looks like black Noelle
Celoba....
>>4141104Chujin was adventurer like (You), until he took an arrow to Ceroba-knee
>>4141098Where's Pluto, William?
>>4141108Pluto isn't a planet
>>4141109I don't care what the woke liberals think, where's Pluto?
>>4141110I eated it all...
>>4141017Looks like a volcano
>>4141098>>4141097Isn't the artist who made these the same guy that had a meltdown over signirsol drawing aged up Kanaclover?
>>4141040Amazing work as always Sig, thanks for this piece of fanart.
>>4141055>It will be the first fully new image I have created for these threads since the end of my exile. I hope it will be enjoyable enough.Glad to hear that you are back to making art, goodnight anon.
>>4141110Pluto is the one next to Solar Ceroba >>4141097>>4141114Who knows. Twitter says they're like 17 or something.
>>4141097>>4141098What autism can cause a man to draw such a thing?
>>4141113i think volcanoes can exist underground, maybe.but it'll work for a map of the island. following the river around the base of the mountain is inadvisable, it's dark back there due to how the swelterstone cluster grew
Felix Bytes?Yeah they tend to do so
I need Asriel fan games.
>>4141175Kanako...
>>4141175An "Undertale Red" where you play as Chara would be cool
UTY remastered/Justified's dev is retiring due to constant drama with the communityhttps://gamejolt.com/p/my-final-message-to-the-utc-contains-my-24th-birthday-celebrati-kvwbvdgu
>No DRY updateIt's over
>>4141188the update is that I spent an entire week stuck on a single puzzle, not because it was hard to program because all the elements were already coded, but just brainstorming the puzzle itselfI'll see if I can ask someone else to make the puzzles instead
>>4141183rip, though I don't know anything really about what they were working on.>>4141189NTA but I enjoyed some of the puzzles you did before. I hope whoever you get can make some that measure up.
>>4141183>One of his reasons for abandoning the community was "Fear of being framed as a pedophile(due to being 24 in a rather young community)"Wild that that's an actual fear someone can have in this fandom, he's not even old.Also this dude put his mod on Hiatus because he was waiting for 1.3, he refused to work on UTY because a major spriter was a "groomer" then he realized that the new update was so good it made his mod redundant since the main goal of the mod was to replace some sprites and make the game easier for new players and the update already did that
>>4141191>Also this dude put his mod on Hiatus because he was waiting for 1.3, he refused to work on UTY because a major spriter was a "groomer" then he realized that the new update was so good it made his mod redundant since the main goal of the mod was to replace some sprites and make the game easier for new players and the update already did thatah, then I feel sad to say this, but nothing of value was lost.
Five Nights at Robas
>>4141191>Wild that that's an actual fear someone can have in this fandom, he's not even old.If you don't have a discord this is nothing to worry about, common mistake amongst most "devs" out there
>>4141191He also quit a team for transphobic memes
>>4141195What would Roba do to you if she gets into your office?
>>4141199Inject you with soul AIDS
>>4141199Unspeakable things
>>4141197>He also quit a team for transphobic memesI get the distinct impression of wondering if any dev work had happened at all
>>4141200Humans are unaffected by soul AIDS due to being physical though
>>4141206How do you know that? Maybe its like a blood transfusion and your soul will reject the soul juice unless have the same soul trait.
>>4141199Try and make a child with you, so she can experiment on the child.
>>4141122>Glad to hear that you are back to making artIt's nice to hear that's worth being glad about.It's all much slower now, with how busy everything is, and how worn out I've been for a long while now, but I'm still working on things, yes. I do like to make other people happy, when I can, so that helps me keep moving, even if still quite slowly.
>>4141211I think it would have the same result as if you tried to inject human blood into a monster.
>>4141201Why would I want to prevent that?>>4141216It'll take more than five nights...
>>4141228>Why would I want to prevent that? Its horrible anon, shell pounce on you and you'll never be the same again
>>4141230I already have accepted everything from now on when I booted up survey program
>>4141230oh noi will become a man
>>4141234You weren't a man before?
>>4141011so did anyone investigate the file? If not, guess I will have to test it eventually.
>>4141243hope you have a burner phone for that
>>4141243I'm stupid and don't really know what investigating the file would entail. I figure just running it and seeing what happens wouldn't be enough to know if it's safe.
Roba's scent....
>>4141245fair enough>>4141244I have a few
>>4141243I believe the only guy with the keys to the DRY gamejolt page should not be risking losing access to that page.
>>4141261He should upload a DRY progress update though
>>4141261Dont worry, Im testing it with a burner phone. Nothing bad will happen
>>4141011it seems to be legit but I still wouldn't use an online connected phone for this, at least it didn't ask for any special permissions (but I used a pretty old phone to test)
>>4141040>Long hairThank you based sig
>>4141040She reminds of Ro Bin from Don't Starve Hamlet
>>4141290thank you>but I still wouldn't use an online connected phone for this, at least it didn't ask for any special permissions (but I used a pretty old phone to test)noted
>>4141040Nicely done Sig
JP Clover giving some bratty attitude.
Geltarune should have fast travel fast food joke
>>4140850>I really hate how difficult 4chan makes things sometimes.Man, if only it were just "sometimes." For me, at least. One day I got put on the shit list, and it's been almost two years now that I have to verify to make posts from my PC, laptop, or phone.>Martlet spritesI don't interface with the fandom outside of here and trawling Tumblr and the UTY subreddit a couple times a month for fanart, but I fully believe that they'd eat up censorslop. Sturgeon's Law has become part of my handbook for understanding general sentiment, opinion, and behavior. The only thing to do is try and keep the 10% of good stuff going and growing to keep pace with the 90% dross.
>>4141325
>>4141314What is he eating?
>>4141332bag says "popeto"so chisps.
>>4141336Do you think he found them in Flowey's mind or did he materialize them through juandice?
>>4141325Could be like, a box for nuggets you jump into, and it spits you out at your destination, if it's animated.
>>4141098>CaelusWhat, was he too afraid to call her Uranus?
>>4141175All we have Dreemurr Reborn, and its long dead.
>>4141189>I'll see if I can ask someone else to make the puzzles insteadI don't think you should completely outsource puzzle design, but having another guy help out with ideas doesn't sound too bad.
>>4141371>>4141175There is outertale geno routeThere actually were many Asriel focused fangames but 99% of them are long dead/abandoned, I guess this is the closest that got finished but it is a single battle thing https://gamejolt.com/games/ss_asriel/765458
>>4141191So he was part of the mob that went after that person over those bullshit groomer accusation, but is deathly afraid of being falsely accused himself? Seems a bit like he made his own bed there.
>>4141199Soul theft.
>>4141376>ss_asrielWhat did they mean by this?
>>4141298How old?
>>4141325Maybe you get delivered by a door dache. It picks you up, shoves you in a sack, and takes you to a destination.
>>4141374it is one of my playtesters, and he usually knows his stuff around puzzles
>>41413839 years old (from 2017)
>>4141383why did you (you) me and not the other guy?
>>4141385It would be nice if it wasn't a generic enemy. Maybe it's some elite door dacher
>>4141381Perhaps adult Chara? Perhaps loli x shota?
>>4141388clicked the wrong post
>>4141391fair enough
>>4141326>Man, if only it were just "sometimes." For me, at least. One day I got put on the shit list, and it's been almost two years now that I have to verify to make posts from my PC, laptop, or phone.fuck, I'm sorry you have to deal with that anon, and I'm doubly so glad that it hasn't caused you to leave us.>I don't interface with the fandom outside of here and trawling Tumblr and the UTY subreddit a couple times a month for fanart, but I fully believe that they'd eat up censorslop100 percent. I honestly consider it a miracle that enough people reacted poorly to the changes that people don't get witch hunted for liking the old sprites.>The only thing to do is try and keep the 10% of good stuff going and growing to keep pace with the 90% dross.yeah I know that's how I should be, and how I tend to try to be. I guess it just made it click that the character gets bastardized so much and brought me down. It's been talked about before but while 4chan isn't perfect, people here genuinely try to grasp the characters they are talking about to some extent even if we argue and disagree on the specifics.
>>4141390Maybe it's Asriel x main character
>>4141403Main CHARActer
>>4141408I know who Racter and Chara is, but who is Main?
>>4141413The protagonist of a fangame yet to be revealed to us.
>>4141413>>4141418(You) are main.
>>4141413This.
>>4141425the lobster monster you play as in underwatertale
>>4141442Achually it's called oceantale
>>4141425UT city building fangame
>>4141475I actually do remember seeing a post on twitter announcing a UT fangame about managing the underground like a city building game, but with some extra stuff like dealing with incursions from the surface, but I can't find it anymore and I'm not sure it actually went anywhere.I remember it being called "Underhome" or something like that, but it's been a bit.
>>4141479Would be actually cool, but I wasn't able to find it
>>4141040
>>4141371It still hurts that Dreemur Reborn never got finished.
>>4141541I remember the guy coming back after UTY's release but he did nothing afterwards
>>4141541>>4141542it's really weird for me looking back on dreemur reborn. I remember the old chara fight he did and then re-did I think? Watching all of that unfold was probably the first time I allowed myself to get that deep into a fandom aside from autism related to super metroid.
>>4141542He came back just to say I'm never finishing Dreemur Reborn more or less. After that radio silence.
>>4141543When I first saw that Chara fight, I thought it was a preview for the game, and was shocked it was a full on animation.
>>4141543It's really upsetting that the guy just gave up completely, and all the ideas he shared just never happened.
>>4141551>>4141545>>4141543the rumors I heard were that he gave up because deltarune chapter 1 came out and did everything he wanted to do so he thought he couldn't compete with tobert
>>4141547I wont sit here dumping my folder from the 2015 /v/ threads but it was kind of cool watching it unfold. like I said I didn't really have experience with this kind of "au" stuff fandoms did since I didn't really let myself get invested until UT, but it was neat.>>4141551to be honest I remember seeing his first announcement about a game and my thought had been something along the lines of "game? where the hell else is there to take the story from here? Isn't it just time for slice of life stuff?"
>>4141541The idea of Frisk giving his soul to Asriel is retarded though. The whole game you get told to let Frisk be their own person, but then you suddenly decide to end his life just because you like goat boy (who would live on otherwise, just as forma de flower instead of a goat)
>>4141554>but then you suddenly decide to end his life just because you like goat boy (who would live on otherwise, just as forma de flower instead of a goat)back then the fandom was more open to the idea of self inserting as frisk post story like you would with any other fictional character. the whole "self inserting as frisk = bad" thing didn't take root for a while.
>>4141555wasn't it only after deltarune with the kris vs soul thing?
>>4141552That sounds like a really weak reason to just throw everything away. I remember he was supposed to be working on some comic, which he also stopped working on out of nowhere.
>>4141556It's kind of hard to say one way or the other and to make broad "the entire fandom thinks x statements" largely Frisk's existence as a distinct character back then was mostly written around annoying retards that didn't play the game basically rewriting Chara into Frisk and shrieking at people that it was canon even though that's both unnecessary and stupid
>>4141556I think so but iirc it took a while to actually take root since people weren't really demonizing it as much. there were even things like that one comic where "kris actually evil and wants to destroy everything" due to the fakeout at the end of ch 1. I think it started getting genuinely bad with the weird route since people started unconsciously self inserting as kris and thus getting offended by people consciously self inserting as him.If that makes no sense I'm sorry but basically people completely fucking forgot that self inserting into established characters is completely normal.
>>4141555The concept just didn't make a lot of sense, that's why it got scrapped.>>4141557I think it kinda is, since the sequel to UT was the main appeal.
>>4141554I don't think it's a bad idea simply because it's one of the few times Frisk can't save someone, so it's an interest idea if you could and what would happen after.
>>4141555>>4141559also, something I want to note. It was slightly more common back then for there to be fics about frisk with second person POV, using you to refer to frisk.>>4141560>The concept just didn't make a lot of sense, that's why it got scrapped.it makes plenty of sense, it's an au about if frisk gave his soul up. unless you mean the stuff that comes after that in the extent of the game in which case that's outside the scope of my post there.Narratively it clashes with undertale but the core premise makes enough sense.
>>4141561If Frisk was so suicidal about saving everyone then he should've let Asriel win and reset to when he was with Chara.This is even worse than UTY ending, imagine Frisk going through all of that just to die. And how would humans react to that? A human ambassador, suddenly goes missing and their soul ends up in a monster? They have been out in the surface for just a minute and they already started killing humans, are we going to stand idly while they murder us one by one?
>>4141562There is not much where a story could go since the main plot has been resolved. It reminds me of Overtale (which was also cancelled). Also the nature of the Surface makes it so fan interpretations will vary wildly, making it very hard to create a fangame due to creative differences. Fangames are best at tying up loose threads (cut content, unfinished plotlines, etc.), not creating something completely new.
>>4141567yes but that's different than the idea not making sense in the first place, and my main sticking point here.
>>4141567>OvertaleI remember that game had an insane scope, they wanted to make a 3D RPG open world game with an expanded combat system, it never had a chance at getting finished.
>>4141569It makes as much sense as if Kris went on genoslides at the end of chapter 1. Technically true, but you have to character assasinate them for it to work.
>>4141575>Technically true, but you have to character assasinate them for it to work.that doesn't apply here since frisk is much more lightly characterized.
>>4141574at what point does an undertale fangame just become shin megami tensei with toby monsters
>>4141576Except that their sense of self is one of the few things that is actually characterized about them. Flowey literally begs you to let Frisk live their life if you relaunch the game after True Pacifist
>>4141579>Flowey literally begs you to let Frisk live their life if you relaunch the game after True Pacifistyes flowey does that, and it's clear that flowey doesn't fully understand the separation between you and chara still, so I'm not really worried about what flowey says. That also has nothing to do with the idea of frisk choosing to give up his soul.
>>4141581>and it's clear that flowey doesn't fully understand the separation between you and chara stillIt's pretty apparent he does, but given the limitations of the game the only real way to communicate is to refer to you in all caps, and the given name in what's more a functional cutscene to inform you there's no Double Pacifist Ending or anything like that.
>>4141584it's pretty apparent he doesn't. On a metaplot level we are him and on an in universe level we are not him. he throws a blanket statement at us. If he understood that we were different he could have avoided calling us Chara as we parted, but his awareness of things was likely always limited. and again, still not relevant.
>>4141581>separation between you and charaI don't think (You) existed in UT before DR retconned it in. You were supposed to be Chara, we have no evidence of the Player in UT.>That also has nothing to do with the idea of frisk choosing to give up his soul.It goes against Frisk's character, which Flowey hopes you leave alone.
>>4141586>It goes against Frisk's character,it goes against what you're assuming frisks character to be, and has nothing to do with us leaving him alone or not.
>>4141541The worst part is him saying no one else is allowed to do anything with it.
>>4141587We already know that Frisk didn't give their soul to Asriel, so not giving his soul is a part of his character.
>>4141552How many times has Toby done this?
>>4141591well, that's a cop out answer. You know what? I quit the game during the asriel fight thus frisk gives his soul up.
>>4141585I'm sure you're not dumb enough to understand implications, or to think you can get one over because he didn't emphatically and explicitly state that was a playful statement and not seriously referring to someone who had been entirely banished at that point. So let's not act like retards.Or do it on your own time, with someone else. I'm not interested.
>>4141061probably the same way it works with xcom vipers
>>4141598>Second not removed from my postCool, thanks 4chan
>>4141598>I'm sure you're not dumb enough to understand implications, or to think you can get one over because he didn't emphatically and explicitly state that was a playful statement and not seriously referring to someone who had been entirely banished at that point. So let's not act like retards.I'm not acting like a retard. Flowey clearly doesn't fully grasp the situation and is just calling it as best as he understands. He likely had a higher level of meta understanding with the souls, but he doesn't have them anymore, and thus doesn't have the ability to grasp things fully anymore.And it's still completely irrelevant to a story about frisk choosing to do something withing the confines of the story. Flowey telling you to do something is completely unimportant to frisk deciding something.
>>4141595Then Asriel resets to 201X and spends 999 years together with Chara and True Pacifist doesn't happen
>>4141594lucky me, toby is doing nothing of what I wanted since last year
>>4141602sure why not.
>>4141559>"kris actually evil and wants to destroy everything"That still might be true, even if he feels really bad about it, or is dong it for his dead groomer.
>>4141604But Frisk didn't job so that didn't happen
>>4141559>f that makes no sense I'm sorry but basically people completely fucking forgot that self inserting into established characters is completely normal.I think the problem is that they take the game too seriously, and treat it like its real life, with real moral consequences. So they get genuinely mad at you for violating Kris's autonomy.
>>4141606I'd imagine he's not the kind of "evil" that people imagined back then. even if that ends up being true.>>4141607my frisk did. in fact I accidentally dropped his save data in the trash (he was free to visit any time).
>>4141560>I think it kinda is, since the sequel to UT was the main appeal.Deltarune isn't a sequel to Undertale though, and its not anything like Dreemurr Reborn (other than sharing an acronym), and its completely normal for something to have two sequels
>>4141608it's that age old image of "the problem with twitter is they treat fictional characters like real people and real people like fictional characters". They treat violations of Kris's autonomy as a genuine real offense while ignoring real instances of people treating each other like shit.
Post your best mushrooms.
>>4141612what?
>>4141609>I'd imagine he's not the kind of "evil" that people imagined back then.I know, I was just pointing out that this might an IQ bell curve meme situation where the retards are right for the wrong reasons.
>>4141612this ain't the place for toadette porn anon
>>4141610Yes, but many people recieved it as such (Not like Toby didn't present it as that). Also despite not being a direct sequel it expands or dwells on unexplored topics of UT. Like Flowers having no reason to represent fallen humans aside from it being a UT reference.
>>4141567Seems like an arbitrarily limiting view to take. He's writing a new story, he can just create new conflict, new locations, new characters. That's what most sequels are, people creating new conflict for a story that's already resolved its original conflict.
>>4141613>>4141615Nta, but Netskies like 'shrooms
>>4141611>"the problem with twitter is they treat fictional characters like real people and real people like fictional characters"A website full of crusaders? Grim.
>>4141612Ceroba is going to the Deli to get sandwiches for Kanako and Chujin.
>>4141575I think Kris could be pushed to go full genoslides if his arm were sufficiently twisted. Especially before he's gotten super close to everyone, like in chapter 1. Like if to save Dess, or to save the world, he had to pull an edgelord Sans and kill all the darkners to gain enough power. He wouldn't be smiling, but he would push through it with a grim determination.
Oh, I see Those people from That thread are here and bored.You actually are that retarded.
>>4141609We don't know how would Frisk perform without your guidance, so for now he is in stasis until you decide to launch UT again and decide his fate
>>4141627Asgore...
>>4141627assuming you're calling me retarded for the second time, no. I don't touch any of the other threads. I'm not sure why engaging with what I said instead of something irrelevant to what I said is out of the question though.
>>4141579Maybe Frisk decides to save Asriel at the cost of his own life as an act of ultimate selflessness. He's been characterized as selfless throughout the whole pacifist route, maybe he makes the decision for himself, despite Flowey's protests, because this is how he wants his life to be spent.
>>4141628but he's not in stasis when you close the game and don't know what his actions will be post game. it's the same logic. so long as I never touch the game again then he's out there souling it up in absorption land.
>>4141586>I don't think (You) existed in UT before DR retconned it in. You were supposed to be Chara, we have no evidence of the Player in UT.Pacifist shows you as the player are separate from Frisk, and genocide shows you're separate from Chara. So the only conclusion that can be drawn is that (you) are an entity in the game, separate from Chara and Frisk.
>>4141591Ok, what if he didn't? The game is an alternate timeline, that means its changing things. One of those things can be what Frisk would or wouldn't do in that situation.
>>4141564>If Frisk was so suicidal about saving everyone then he should've let Asriel win and reset to when he was with Chara.Would Asriel be saved though? He'd still be the same violent person he was as Flowey, with the same destructive mindset. Its only after he's beaten that he's willing to let go of that worldview and let everybody else be. That's the only point at which Asriel is truly Asriel again. Or at least it could be viewed that way.
>>4141633>Pacifist shows you as the player are separate from FriskIt shows that Chara and Frisk are separate>genocide shows you're separate from CharaCould be Frisk's POV.It would be narratively more satisfying if (You) didn't exist in UT, but either way Toby already retconned that (You) did actually exist in UT, no matter how it actually was originally. But he did want you to put (You)r name as the first fallen human's.
>>4141603Its not about what you wanted, its about him doing something you were planning in your own work. I didn't want him to do anything of the things he did, still got fucked by it.
>>4141626>Kris could be pushed to go full genoslides if his arm were sufficiently twistedHEY KRIS
>>4141602Can he reset to 201X? Maybe he was just going to reset to the start of Undertale so he could go through the game with you again.
>>4141632The game stays the same as when you quit, unless everytime you reopen it, a reset happens. And we know that Frisk either lives with Toriel post game or moves out.
>>4141618That still makes it a weak justification. The guy probably just didn't want to put in the work for making a whole game.
>>4141640We don't know if he can, but it is what he wants to do and tells you during the fight.
>>4141641if I never open that box I'll never know.frisk might be out by the Oort cloud by now.
>>4141639Dess did this and gave Kris a fetish
>>4141634Yeah, an AU can do literally everything. Doesn't guarantee it will be good though
>>4141627What thread?
>>4141627What?
>>4141645>Frisk keeps fighting on forever waiting for you to come backOur hero
>>4141637>Could be Frisk's POV.Seems far fetched to me. The game never changes POV from start to finish. That would mean that each ending is ret conning the entire game's POV arbitrarily. Maybe that is the case, but that would be some rather messy quantum canon for an otherwise narratively coherent game.>It would be narratively more satisfying if (You) didn't exist in UTThat sounds more like your opinion than a solid fact.
>>4141643Most likely. Shame about Cheerie though
>>4141647But it could be. The entire basis of this argument was you (or someone) saying this was a fundamentally bad premise, which it isn't.
>>4141644Is it though? He never specifically states when "back to zero" actually is. That could just mean the start of the game.
>>4141653The real shame is on him for forbidding anyone else from doing anything with the characters he has no intention of doing anything with.
>>4141653Yeah Cheerie was very well liked, would have become a lasting favourite for sure.
>>4141656How ironic is that the dude who tried to make a fangame would be against people making fan content of his characters
>>4141658nta but honestly when you point that out it makes it feel even shittier. I know people get real personal about OCs and all, but I feel like there's a limit when those OCs are from another franchise
>>4141652It is already messy as to why there are 3 niggas inside one body. I could get Chara, but I don't get why (You) would be there, and it's not like (You) is ever mentioned ingame (unlike even UTY). >That sounds more like your opinion than a solid factYes, because it is my opinion. I can't get into Toby's head to know what he truly meant. Player canonicity couldn't be proven before DR, so I go by what's most satisfying to me and what I think Toby wanted to tell.
>>4141658Ironic, but not rare. "Original character, do not steal" is an old meme for a reason.
>>4141661>but I don't get why (You) would be there, and it's not like (You) is ever mentioned ingameIt's only the entire spectrum inbetween pacifism and genocide, but sure.
>>4141663Oh, and addendum, you on a pacifist run to be read for what discrepency exists between what would truly be what Frisk does, and what you did to get there because there's room for ambiguity there.
>>4141661>but I don't get why (You) would be there, aBecause you're playing the game. The ending even points out that you're just a player intruding on this world, and that you'll move on to the next game after you're done with it.As for how it works, maybe its a Russian nesting doll situation. You controlling Chara, controlling Frisk. Or maybe its two spirits in one body, Frisk and Chara being two sides of a coin, with (you) being the one flipping the coin.
>>4141662>Ironic, but not rare. "Original character, do not steal" is an old meme for a reason.To be fair that makes sense since its about people taking credit for OCs they didn't make, someone making a comic and including Cheerie on it, while giving credit to the Asriel Rebon guy wouldn't count as stealing an OC.
>>4141655He talks about how he wants to spent an eternity with Chara in the newsletter and he is also obssessed with her throughout the entire game.
>>4141667and since in his delusion, he thinks he has chara back, resetting to the beginning of UT would accomplish that. That doesn't imply he has extra power to go back further, because if he did he could just go back and stop himself from ever becoming soulless in the first place and even become fused with him directly again.
>>4141667Yeah, but eternity could be just as easily achieved through infinitely replaying Undertale. Keep in mind that when he says that, he thinks Frisk is Chara.
>>4141665That could be Flowey telling Chara to let others live their life in the story (which represents you letting them go in the meta narrative). Chara moving on to the next world could be talking about the Surface diagetically.I think it's a nice story of redemption, if (You) exists then Chara doesn't get to do anything aside from Geno and never gets to redeem herself. And wouldn't she just keep persisting alongside Frisk on the Surface in your case?
>>4141675You fundamentally don't like either Undertale as a game or Chara as a Character.Which is fine, there's nothing wrong with liking the fictitious version of a game you've made up, but you are the equivalent of cancer to game discussion and your time would be better spent doing something more productive.
>>4141668I think he wants to reset to before Asgore, Toriel and the whole Monster Kingdom were traumatized by the loss. A return to the old days, all suffering forgotten just like it was a bad dream.>>4141669He is still mad at her for telling him "it's kill or be killed", then just to come back and be a weenie beanie pacifist. He must reset to how it was before, when everything was simple.
>>4141678>I think he wants to reset to before Asgore, Toriel and the whole Monster Kingdom were traumatized by the loss. A return to the old days, all suffering forgotten just like it was a bad dream.I'm skeptical about that because he doesn't seem to care about the good old days any more and is much more engaged with his endless game with "chara"
>>4141661>but I don't get why (You) would be thereBecause it's a video game. I'm guessing that's the only reason.
>>4141677What the fuck? Thanks for outing yourself as illiterate. Yes, I would rather do something productive than talk to a brick wall.
I'm not involved in this, but I'm honestly very surprised this has gone on for as long as it has, with all sides apparently being very opinionated on their respective stances, while everything has remained shockingly civil overall.Not complaining, well done.
>>4141678Everything about Flowey implies he just wants Chara back, he doesn't char whether society at large is happy and he wouldn't bother leaving the underground or becoming god if Chara was with him.
>>4141685I jumped out of the discussion mostly myself but it feels like a regular autism fight (forma de on topic) rather than some of what we've seen.
>>4141685Quick, somebody mention that Suselle is cute and canon
>>4141692no.
>>4141680The newsletter talks about Chara and Asriel's day to day life, like Chara making scary faces or picking flowers (Frisk doesn't do that). >>4141686Yeah, but the happy times that he had with Chara was when there was no tragedy. He might not care about anyone else, but they weren't sad when she was still with him.If Asriel didn't want to go back to the past, why wouldn't he try to recreate the moments he had with her with his God powers?
>>4141704>The newsletter talks about Chara and Asriel's day to day life, like Chara making scary faces or picking flowers (Frisk doesn't do that).that doesn't have anything to do with what asriel is doing during the pacifist ending. He believes this is chara even if you don't act like chara. He's not talking about any of the happy times any more and it makes sense, he's been twisted by all what he's been through, and what he's put himself through. he wants to play with chara the way he played with people when he was flowey.
>>4141675>Chara moving on to the next world could be talking about the Surface diagetically.I don't think it is. It seemed to imply that you destroyed the whole world at the end of the game.> if (You) exists then Chara doesn't get to do anything aside from Geno and never gets to redeem herselfShe gets redeemed and becomes a part of Frisk Or maybe she simply returns to resting in her grave, with Flowey watching over her.
>>4141677Can you not, anon. We were having a decent dialogue.
>>4141683Just so you know, that was a different guy. I'm suspicious he cut in just to troll.
Honestly I hate when you guys have cordial debates, what we need are more vitriolic bitchfests over half-baked theories no one will ever care about once chapter 6 drops.
>>4141716Did you forget what thread you're in?
>>4141717For the record, I didn't mean in the sense that>Vitriolic sperg fights are the normI meant>Did you forget this is the FANGAME thread and not the "Deltarune" thread.Since basic reading skills are in short supply as of late.
>>4141720nta but I understood what you meant. This kind of discussion is more the norm here though I guess we had a period away from it.
>>4141704>If Asriel didn't want to go back to the pastWhat if he wanted to play the shitty games that suck ass instead?
>>4141717Fuck me, I did. Sorry about that, I meant to be posting in the Deltarune thread. No wonder things are so calm in here. Sorry, I'll take my shitposting to its proper home asap. And for the record I don't actually prefer the usual high levels of shitflinging, that was more to highlight the way things are itt in comparison. Anyway, wish you guys the best and keep up the good work.
>>4141723BOYS, WE HAVE A TRAITOR!!!
>>4141723Seeing the top of Martlet's head in a new post like that made my heart stop for a second.
>>4141723I'm sorry anon, it's out of my hands now. You're gonna get... "The Treatment.">>4141727 same, it will fade with time hopefully lol
>>4141727what happen
>>4141730>spoilerMaybe, but Christ did he do some damage.
>>4141733
>>4141735no, I don't know whatnot everybody is here 24/7
>>4141736don't worry about it anon. just shadows of the past.
>>4141626I had the thought in which Kris is currently enduring soul-crushing torment out of sheer willpower.We try to get him to speak his mind at the end of chapter 4 and he has to say it with his mouth closed.You try to get him to stay out of his and Noelle's way and he has to drown himself again just to stop it.Any word in he could give edgewise, in protest, in retort, he pulls away. The only one he can talk to is the one doomed from the start: Ralsei.Just wish I could git gud at making fake scenes to animate so I can slap together a Flowery and Kris 1:1 conversation.It would go like this...
>>4141738NTA, but this is actually kinda neat.You write this yourself? It's good stuff.
>>4141723>Anon uses personality A with friend group B
>>4141746And for this he shall be broken upon the wheel.
put him in the bronze bowll
>>4141738>three words awayWhat words?
>>4141753Probably "I love you" or something.NTA by the way, that's just my guess, I read this as Flowery encouraging Kris to go steal Susie back from Noelle.
Found a larping Geeza on the Noz
>>4141757and a cool looking 'Zali
>>4141757it's really nice seeing GELtarune fanart coming out from there. I can't wait to play it myself tomorrow (ideally).>>4141758>quetzal pretzalthe forbidden technique.
>>4141757And just know I realize the pun on their name, not sure what's up with the Egyptian thematic of the Geezas and the Pharaoh
>>4141761 Obviously the name is a pun, but old people are dried up and ancient, like mummies. So that's the connection.
Is Gamejolt chat offline for anyone else, or is it just me?
>>4141766offline for me too.
>>4141766I can't access it either
>>4141766Yeah, it's dead on my end too.
>>4141757>>4141758I like the Yagis that got posted, they were cute
>>4141774I like the Yaggers too, but I avoid posting them because I don't want to hog the image limit.
>>4141777>YaggersYou can't just be saying it with a hard r like that anon.
>>4141786Why not? Its just a word, they call each other "yigga" all the time anyway.
>>4141792It's *their* word anon, they're allowed to say it.
Honestly, these threads have been feeling pretty alright lately, nice change of pace from the decline it felt like they were on earlier this year. Jannies not withstanding anyway, the actual content of the threads feels way more natural and lively as of late.Good stuff right here.
>>4141792I don't know what's funnier, the idea of there being mulitple Yagis, or them using the word "yigga"
>>4141820It's been a noticeable change for me as well. I know there's been some bumps along the way and some less than great feelings about this or that, but the atmosphere feels more casual, less forced. More about the video games and ideas. Makes me look forward to the future and seeing what yous guys cook up next.
>>4141822Well if you're willing to get into semantics there's at least 2 or 3.
>>4141826Glad you're feeling it too, nice.I know there's been a lot of doomerism in some places here and there, but I think things are going pretty well right about now.Now if we can just get a good thread off the ground this upcoming weekend, that'd tie it all together nicely. Suppose we cross that bridge when we get to it.
>>4141829I hope we can get a proper GELtarune thread this weekend
>>4141838That'd be neat, but maybe just the one, since it doesn't have the most to talk about from what I hear.No shade at all, to be clear.
>>4141838It'd certainly be nice if more people got to try it at the very least.
>>4141838nta but same here. Honestly with the way we've had clear evidence of mods in threads before who have let the threads be, I figured there'd be some amount of "alright it's a new release have at it".>>4141840it deserves at least one full thread in the sun (more imo but either way).
>>4141840One thread would be fine, I just feel there's still stuff to speculate about, besides local fangame releases should be a big thing in these threads
>>4140269I was just sitting here when my brain fucking flashbanged me that you posted this as I was going to sleep yesterday.yes there are >and it didn't seem as special as you were hyping it up to be. The music was cool, but it didn't seem like it was doing anything new or interesting. It was basically just a retread of the true lab, but with pink and yellow googley eyes everywhere, and then a retread of the roaring knight at the end. And then optionally some intentionally vague FRIEND stuff. The music was good. The scares were downright goofy though, I genuinely got more scared anticipating jumpscares than I did by anything actually in the game. Plus it follows analog horror tropes to a T, to the point the new for Deltarune stuff still didn't feel all that interesting.The part that sold me on it personally, was when you meet your zombified friend and it starts fucking with the game window, opening up tabs in your browser and pulling up images on your desktop I fucking love stuff like that, so I do apologize if my personal taste for things like that led you to some dissapointment. when the window started bouncing around my desktop I thought "oh fuck yeah spoopy stuff."
>>4141847I also realized that the way I did the spoilers in the beginning was stupid and wrong there. I'm tired once again.
>>4141847>spoiler 1That was cool, but him already being a goner before he goes there threw me off. Wouldn't that mean he was already one of Gaster's minions to begin with, and that he existed specifically just to bait you into the shelter? I think it would've been a more effective scare if he was in on it, and that was like his true form.>spoiler 2That actually was cool, but it would've been cooler if the window sliding actually revealed something behind it. Like it opened a window in the background, placed it behind itself, and then slid down to show it.
>>4141926I'm about to go to sleep due to critical levels of sleepy, but anon I need to say that second spoiler Idea is fucking genius.aside from that on spoiler 1 I think he gets made into that like, right as soon as he gets there, when he gets there ahead of you? I've been planning on replaying it along side some other things but I didn't get the impression he was one of gasters minions when you talk to him outside your house.
>>4141926>>4141928oh also I really like the battle themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpPDYJZafXU
>>4141928>I think he gets made into that like, right as soon as he gets thereI figured as much. Though it could just as easily have been while you were down there looking for him, since it takes a while to find him. The ending is a bit weird though, apparently he's mostly fine, despite looking like that now>but I didn't get the impression he was one of gasters minions when you talk to him outside your house.I got it from his design, he's literally just an aged up Goner Kid, who we all know is a Gaster follower. Granted, as far as spooky Deltarune fangame plots go, this makes way more sense than Hallow's Eve Hack. That plot just turned into nonsense (intentionally) at the end.
>>4141930It is good, most of the OST is. The sound effects are bad though, they're meant to be scary, but they just end up being funny.
>>4141941yeah that's honestly fair. there are some things that are very low quality in the game that I can't blame people for disliking. I still enjoyed it despite that because well, creepy pasta stuff is my love.>>4141936>spoiler 1yeah I can't really tell what it was going for with that. I assume that he was really alive when you last see him and that it's not spooky lies or something like that. and yeah his design is that, but I don't think it was actually trying to imply that he was a gaster spy sent to lure you or something like that. I may be wrong but I feel lik that just isn't the case with him.and yeah, I think the plot makes "enough" sense compared to at least some ut/dr fan content that there is out there. sometimes I think I should go back and read a little fic called blue magic to see if it still makes as zero fucking sense as when I saw it 10 years ago.
>>4141942>spoiler 1I think they just didn't put much thought into it. They wanted to fake out an ending stinger, while also paying homage to the UT post credits scene and the True Lab bed Easter egg.>spoiler 2It probably wasn't, but it really read as that, because that grey goner kid look comes with a lot of narrative baggage>spoiler 3You should really play, or at least watch a complete playthough of Hallow's Eve Hack to see what I mean. That game's ending is a sight to behold.
>>4141590He really said that? Why would he do that?
Did we already discuss an idea of Chujin finding out he has cancer and cooking crystal meth to provide for his family after his death? I feel like we did, but I don't remember for certain.
>>4142156We had talked that Chujin's situation was similar to Walter's, but that didn't mean it was literally it.They both got their inventions stolen by their coworker friend.
UT Promise devlog https://gamejolt.com/p/october-devlog-undertale-promise-now-runs-tenuously-on-browsers-fjzre6wa
THE ONLY WAY THIS MINECART WOULD BE WORTH 500 G IS IF THERE WAS A 300 G MOOCH SITTIN' IN IT
>>4142201What?
I can FEEL his cold fury.(More recent jap art, enjoy)
>>4142216Neat seeing them develop their own fixations
>>4142221She didn't suffer enough
>>4142229and it's gonna stay that way
>>4142230Because dead people don't suffer
>>4142232I'm sorry Ceroba, I know that things were bad at the DMV, but you're not allowed to die because of that.
>>4142234>not allowed to dieThe DMV is the key to immortality?
>>4142234What is DMV?
>>4142242the DMV is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be... unnatural>>4142245it's where you go to get your license renewed/wait in line for all eternity.
>>4142246...That's a bit random? I think Ceroba would consider herself to be smart enough to not need a license to drive.
>>4142251>I think Ceroba would consider herself to be smart enough to not need a license to drive.what?
>>4142253Ceroba is a trained professional
>>4142261>Ceroba doesn't need to hear all this, she's a highly trained professional
>>4142295Are there any HEV Suit Roba fanart?
>>4142300Probably not, but maybe that one guy can make one if you ask.
>>4142300>HEV Suit Roba why does this sound erotic to me? What the hell.
Looks like Martlet will be going as Chujin this Halloween.
>>4142311>"Hey Ceroba, look, I'm a ghost!"
>>4142311Is that foxface dude?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnKN0p3788M
>>4142311Nice to see Martlet dress up as her lover
>>4142188>Godot C# on browserHoly shit what
You have erotic thoughts about Roba dominating you
>>4142324I have erotic thoughts both of her dominating me AND of me dominating her.
>>4142324
>>4142326Based
>>4142327Thats why you weren't able to fight mantis darkners in chapter 5
>>4142327I still think the idea of a boss who can read your save data from other fangames would be cool as fuck, even if I don't know if that could be possible.
>>4142337I think it should be possible, just have to know where those files are saved right?I don't know if there would be a permissions issue by default or something.
>>4142337It's very possible, but would introduce filesystem related issues since you'd have to account for things like people running a game via WINE or that save locations (even if people typically default to APPDATA on windows) not being standardized, and having said save files documented so they can be implemented by the developer
>>4142340>>4142341Yeah I was thinking that Linux would be the biggest issue, at least for Windows it shouldn't be that hard, the script of the boss should look for individual paths for each fangame and not for a general path.
A roba I got on my strawpage.
>>4142337You'd have to design them with compatibility in mind, but strictly speaking it's not impossible.
>>4142346>strawpageAre you that guy who tried to label himself "Cerobaanon"?
>>4142346cute roba. what even IS strawpage.
>>4142350Huh?
>>4142351NTA, but it's a thing people on twitter set up to have people send them drawings and messages and whatnot.
>>4142353I'm asking if you're that guy with some twitter account about Ceroba who tried to come in here and assert himself as a thread personality a while back.Maybe not though.
>>4142354ahh I see.>>4142351some guy on twitter came here with a "tradcath ceroba" account trying to declare himself as "Ceroba anon" the other day. it was silly.
>>4142360whoops, replied to the wrong person on the second part.>>4142353
>>4142358Weird, I run a ceroba fan account but this is the first time I've ever posted anything related to it here, I try to keep it all as in-character as possible and I don't like personal/political/etc views getting in the way
>>4142346You someone we should know?
>>4142365there's no fun to it if you don't try to keep them in character I imagine, right? Nah that other person was a real oddball. tradcath super anti porn confederate ceroba who talks about trannies all day basically.
>>4142368>super anti pornNTA, but that part is especially funny given how they messaged me telling me to "keep up the good work" with my Ceroba drawings. They're entirely performative.
>>4142368Canon Roba if she sat on Undernet btw
>>4142368Gross, bringing in a bunch of unnecessary stuff is how you just end up looking like a fool. Irony poisoning tends to set in with those types too. I'm sorry I reminded you of whoever that was
>>4142370It's post nut clarity, many such cases
>>4142370it honestly is funny. not as in a like "this person is funny keep doing it" kind of way but in a "I'm laughing at them not with them" way.>>4142372nah you're good man. I guess not a lot of people are open about what they do that's related to twitter around here so there was some curiosity. I mean you no ill will.
>>4142373Unless he messaged me immediately after he got done whacking off, I'd say he knew what he was doing.
>>4142376No, he thanks you for your work, goons, and then post nut clarity hits and he talks about fighting degeneracy
Jeez, if I would have known the art I got sent would've reignited talks over such a weird person I'd have never posted it
>>4142383nta, but I liked the art and I think the "tradcath Ceroba" Twitter guy is funny, as in we are laughing at him and not with him, he's a performative cornball.
>>4142383people are laughing joking and socializing over it anon. No one is upset at the reminder. The art you sent, as was said, is cute, and I appreciate it.
>>4142385Well, I'll be sure to send more that I get then
>>4142383Nah, it's alright, I was just making sure before.Art's neat, thanks for posting it. We're mostly just making fun of the other guy now.
>>4142311Imagine if she went as Chujin and Chujin went as her.
>>4142311>ExtraordinaryIs this an AU, fangame, or mod?
>>4142389As likely as Roba dressing up as Shu
>>4142337Most games save their games to the appdata folder to directories with a set name, so you could just have the game check there for the files to read them.
>>4142346I don't know what that is
>>4142391Now that would be scary.
>>4142390>Is this an AU, fangame, or mod?nta, I don't know but all the art from that artist has that subtitle, he also often calls Martlet "super royal guard", he also seems to ship Martlet with Clover
>>4142394simple website creator where you can decorate it and allow viewers to send anonymous drawings and questions/messages
>>4142360>Tradcath RobaWouldn't Roba practice Shinto?
>>4142373I read that as "post nut calamity"
>>4142401possibly but in the wild east people say "God" so it's anyones guess what they actually practice.
>>4142403That's Dess
>>4142401The guy on twitter has an icon of Ceroba waving a confederate flag, I don't think accuracy is what they were going for.
>>4142383No, you're fine anon. We talk about this stuff anyways.
>>4142404Don't monsters in normal UT say "God" as an exclamation too?
>>4142401I guess it all depends on what you'd want her to practice, headcanons are fine as long as they're not used to punch down on other people like that one guy
>>4142397>", he also seems to ship Martlet with CloverRare ship. I miss the anon that was making a vn about that.
>>4142409>headcanons are fine as long as they're not used to punch down on other people like that one guyWhat guy, the twitter guy?
>>4142408I think so, I just can't actually remember. I don't figure that UT is as explicit about worship as DR is (which makes it weird to me when people have characters say 'oh my angel' in fics)
>>4142404Just because she came from a largely Christian community (assuming it is one) doesn't mean she would be. Besides, Shinto is polytheistic, it has room for other religion's gods.
>>4142413>'oh my angel'I could see particularly religious or old fashioned monster doing that. Maybe someone like Toriel.
>>4142412Yeah, that one
>>4142414but it also doesn't mean she'd take on shinto since a lot of japanese people don't actively practice any form of actual religion." I've got nothing against her practicing shinto, but it's one of those things that isn't defined about her.
>>4142417Which is weird as Asgore says "My God" in Chapter 5
>>4142419I could see her picking it because she tries really hard to stick to Japanese traditions. Hell, if you want to go with the weebRoba idea, then maybe she converted just to be more Japanese. Plus atheism is Japan is a relatively modern thing. The monsters when they were sealed underground likely would've been from the era when it was still commonly believed.
>>4142423He doesn't seem as religious as Toriel and his speech is a lot less proper than hers.
>>4142413I always found it funny how people would switch out God with something else when saying "oh my X" in other religions, reminds me of when people said "oh my Science" to make fun of atheists
>>4142424maybe so, but I'd still argue that the average japanese person back then didn't really "practice" since it was a religion that didn't involve much in the way of actual worship for most people.but again I'm not against it, and it does give a certain "grace" to her that I like.>>4142432it makes me think of how people were forcing "oh my stars" to replace god which came across as just making characters feel more steven universe or something.
Anyway I'm of the belief that if a character isn't explicitly stated to follow something then you're free to interpret their religion however you wish so it really just depends on you
>>4142391Actually, Shufag drew something like that.
>>4142445I honestly don't hate it.
>>4142445Undyne's face when she sees this?
>>4142445She looks really good in this, actually
>>4142445I just had an absolutely rancid idea.
>>4142458oh fuck you.No.
>>4142455Of course she does, she looks good in anything.
>>4142458Explain, now.
>>4142458Do it. Unleash your inner chaotic evil.
>>4142458>that tailNghh.....
How to do Axis kameha in the fighting mini game?
>>4142458Do not.
>>4142458Doit, the world needs to see it!
>>4142518>>4142464Toby...
We must have more FemShu.
>>4142483Anyone?
>>4142523I do not know and did not know there was such a move in the fight. I'm sorry anon.
>>4142526Val would be disappointed
>>4142462 ShuRoba yuri >>4142464>>4142518Do you people really want to see THAT?>>4142459>>4142508Don't worry, you couldn't pay me to draw that.>>4142467>>4142521Based, but only if its straight.
>>4142523I didn't know that was a thing
>>4142559>Do you people really want to see THAT?Not really, I just wanted to see the chaos it would cause.
>>4142563Well if you want CHAOS CHAOS so bad, then draw it yourself.
>encountered an anon familiar with the threads completely by chance out in the wild on /v/well that was neat.Glad to see there's a lot of people out there still trying to write and draw even in the face of this AI demoralization shitposting.
>>4142573And I likewise enjoyed meeting one of my fellow threadgoes out in the wild.
>>4142573>>4142587What was the thread about?
>>4142589was about a "video game" which is essentially a gallery of statues that you can look at in different angles to practice drawing. turned into an argument about ai "bros" shitting on artists, and artists sharing some of their work. was some cool stuff despite the obviously samefagging techbro.>>4142587pic related
>>4142589It started as being a thread about some art training game on Steam, but it turned into a drawthread pretty quickly. Well a drawthread with constant AI doomer whining in it, but it was good despite them. Even got a few reqs out of it. And some unsolicited drawings of my old ass OC.
>>4142592>And some unsolicited drawings of my old ass OC.Huh?
>>4142594I posted some art I drew, which happened to be of an old OC of mine I decided on a whim to draw. Then I drew a bit more because I felt like it. Then some other anons drew him, without me even asking them to.
>>4142599Can we see?
>>4142600Sure, the thread was right here >>>/v/750487673
>>4142607Ah, figured as much.Another version of me might've seen this as a jackpot.Neat, I suppose.
>>4142610>Ah, figured as much.Huh?>Another version of me might've seen this as a jackpot.What do you mean?
>>4142611Don't worry about it.You have a good night.
>>4142607that was a lot better thread than I was expecting with how aggressive the AI shitposting was throughout it. that mantis x human ftl request was mine. Small fucking world huh
>>4142613Wait, so there were 3 of us in there?
>>4142616No, just you two, most likely.
>>4142616>>4142617there was a third actually. the levels of "small world, huh?" that were going on in my head are unprecedented.
>>4142618So, you three then, at least, but not me though.
>>4142619fair fair. Was still a strange series of events.Anyways, I hope you anons nights are going well. Anyone working on some stuff here at the midweek point?
>>4142621>Was still a strange series of events.Mm, maybe. Interesting tinge to things on my end, but oh well.C'est la vie.>Anyways, I hope you anons nights are going well. Anyone working on some stuff here at the midweek point?Trying to get some work done, but not a ton of time tonight. Suppose we'll see.
>>4142621About to start coding a minigame, which should be one of the last challenges before I can go back to doing easier stuff.
>>4142622I hope time ends up on your side then so you can get back to things >>4142623nice, what kind of mini game if I can ask?
>>4142621so when i said "two week minecraft phase" earlier, i lied.i just have the blockgame tism and it consumed my entire october.fortunately i managed to satisfy it by getting to a point in a modpack where i did what i wanted to do so i can get back to DRY2. i should have the battle system "done" for this weekend's thread (as in, every mechanic is present. just needing polish and animations)
>>4142631>i just have the blockgame tism and it consumed my entire october.I understand anon. I keep interupting my writing sprints with similar autisms.>fortunately i managed to satisfy it by getting to a point in a modpack where i did what i wanted to do so i can get back to DRY2. i should have the battle system "done" for this weekend's thread (as in, every mechanic is present. just needing polish and animations)nice, glad to hear you got that out of the system, and of the upcoming progress.
pipis
>>4142627>nice, what kind of mini game if I can ask?Battle tutorial minigame for how technique types/factors work, I wanted to replace the info dumps from the gameplay demo with something more playable, you have to input different type of techniques in quick succession depending on the factors of the target
>>4142635huh, interesting.I'm curious about how that will impact the way things play
>>4142636I mean, its just another tutorial but in the form of a minigame, I'm not doing any gameplay changes to what you've seen already.
kana and cole
>>4142640
>>4142640cute, though I doubt kanako would call it boring if Cole was having a good time.>>4142639ahh gotcha, I thought you were trying to intensify the systems themselves.
>>4142641milfet
I just an image that had Susie and Noelle have a fankid (biological) that they named Kris Holiday Gaster. I think that may somehow be worse than any of the shit I've seen in catbox roulette, despite being completely sfw and not even poorly drawn.
>>4142641What's going on here?
>>4142664>they named Kris Holiday GasterThis feels like a more advanced for of NTR somehow
>>4142664this took me a moment to really comprehend. impressive.
>>4142668It is. You double cuck a man, then name the biologically impossible kid you had together after the said cucked man.
the mooch rot has consumed me, and i am in need of halloween related requests to further fill out this sketch pagegive me some
>>4142678Cole Dressed like Judge Holden maybe doing the iconic smile tooQuetzali dressed like Dora the Explorer
>>4142678mooch using her short stature to go trick or treating despite being a grown ass woman so that she can "steal" candy,
>>4142678mooch comitting both magic and theft by stealing a Martlet out of ace's hat I forgot if ace wears a hat
>>4142678Mooch in a mascot like halloween costume that hides that she's actually got a second person in the costume with her giving her the dick.
>>4142678Amalgako and Zombie Clover looking cute together, despite everything that's happened. Or alternatively Kanako dressed like an amalgam for Halloween, next to Clover, who's dressed as a zombie cowboy for Halloween.Mooch chaperoning trick or treaters and stealing their candy.
>>4142678Mooch looking at a candy bowl that says to only take one with glowing red eyes as she plans on not taking only one.
>>4142678Could draw Him since it's His birthday.
>>4142692>Kanako dressed like an amalgamThat would be funny
>>4142699How exactly would one "dress" as an amalgam? I feel like there's some serious anatomical issues with trying to do that.
>>4142700She would paint herself white and maybe draw some eyes and mouths on her fur, probably wear some form of mask too with a fucked up mouth
>>4142700Drench yourself in Elmer's glue.
>>4142700White paint, tattered cloth with mouths and faces drawn on it. Maybe one of those toy horse things where its just a plush head on a stick, and she uses it as a head, while she covers her real head with a sheet. Or maybe she leaves her real head exposed so she can have two.
>>4142703cover yourself in gluewait for it to elmer
>>4142717she gorilla on my glue until i elmer's adhesive
>>4142678Mooch breastfeeding Clover
I can't find a glue
>>4142607Oh hey, I was the anon who drew the shitty doodle of Red, what a small fucking world, anon.
>>4142678More Zenith mooch stealing candy from houses?
>>4142729And speaking of Zenith Mooch, Sig. A friend doodled a couple when we were drawpiling, a couple weeks ago. Shared them with the people here but not sure if you saw them.
>>4142728So four now. Can we go for five?Can I see some of your fangame related art, if you have any?
>>4142735NTA, but I'm like 99% sure that's the Valravn anon.
>>4142731ye was really nice, honestly im surprised people even liked the concept of a zenith mooch in the first place
>>4142738O shit, nice! I want to take a crack at her too in the future once I'm through these myriads of things I gotta draw. >>4142737Was it that obvious?
>>4142741>Was it that obvious?I looked at the image in question and could immediately tell.So, yes. Not bad though, I thought it was neat, other things aside.No further comment.
>>4142743Oh, I see. Thanks anon, I appreciate it.
>>4142741>Was it that obvious?It wasn't to me. That didn't look like one of your drawings at all. I guess it really was a fluke. Still, its nice that it exists.
>>4142747>Oh, I see.Don't take that as a bad thing, I'm just used to recognizing patterns. Guess your style stuck with me after a while. Means it's distinct.Keep up the good work, eh?
>>4142748>I guess it really was a fluke.nta, but it wasn't all that bad though. I thought it was a neat little sketch you know?it's funny to me how we met in the wild like that though.
>>4142753Its not that bad, just not up to the same standard as his usual stuff. Like take a look at that Zartlet shower drawing and tell me its not night and day.
>>4142756NTA, but that feels weirdly harsh. It was just a little sketch, that comparison just feels weird.
>>4142756I get what you're trying to say but it does come across a little harsh. Still, it was cool that he tried, though I know he was frustrated with how it turned out.
>>4142757I'm not trying to be harsh. Like I said its not bad. Just a bit jarring when his other stuff is really really good. And I still think its a nice drawing.That was a bad comparison on my part though. That Zartlet image took a lot more work than that sketch. Maybe its just because I've never seen anything other than really high effort stuff from him before, and that made me assume he was just some flawless artchad who could crank out nothing but master pieces left and right.
>>4142760hah, fair. I imagine he saw the way that pro ai person was shitting on your sketches, and wanted to make something super quick in support of you (assumably not knowing who you were lol).
>>4142760You're talking about this really weirdly.You can just say it was a nice sketch man.
>>4142758I get his frustration now. I get mad when that kind of thing happens to me too. But what I said in that thread still stands, practice and study make you better consistently.Also I'm genuinely curious what his lower effort sketches of Zartlet and Martlet would look like.
>>4142764>But what I said in that thread still stands, practice and study make you better consistently.it is true, though I think he's been improving more than he gives himself credit for. It just sucks that we have people on the site like that fuck who was after you in the thread who want to tear down anyone who picks up a pencil and actually tries you know? Absolutely insane behavior.
>>4142763What, am I not allowed to acknowledge what I see? I'm not like I'm calling his art bad or saying he's a bad artist. I'm not even saying the picture is bad.
>>4142766nta, it's alright anon, your phrasing was just a little awkward and came off a bit different. doesn't help we're all autistic.
>>4142765>like that fuck who was after you in the threadHonestly that guy didn't bother me at all. Neither did that one autist who was really severe about not drawing anything until you'd mastered fundamentals. I just laughed it off because it was funny.>Absolutely insane behavior.He was probably just trolling.
>>4142769It also doesn't help that its 3 AM.
>>4142770>Honestly that guy didn't bother me at all.well I'm glad to hear that, it bothered me (and other people) second hand just seeing it. Knowing that there are some artists who are gonna be insecure out there testing the waters, and get shit on by some scum like that before they've got any confidence to their name? I still hate it even if you're all good.and yeah i've seen people with that "i have to have everything perfect before I start" mentality with a lot of things, including writing. it never helps get anywhere.>He was probably just trolling.I suspect with how some of the "ai bros" are, it's 50/50 either trolling, or genuinely hyper insecure about "ai is the future".>>4142772ah fuck there goes sleep again.
>>4142748Thanks, I'll be honest I just tried to freehand it but for the love of god I couldn't wrap my head around how the muzzle should look like with such a pointy face. I could visualize it in my head somewhat but the moment I tried to draw it my mind blanked.>>4142751Thank you anon, you too!>>4142756>>4142760I wouldn't call myself an art chad, don't think I'm anything worthy of that with how inconsistent I am in things.>>4142758That's my secret, anon. I'm always frustrated with my art.(1/2)
>>4142775>well I'm glad to hear that, it bothered me (and other people) second hand just seeing it.I find it hard to be bothered by people who are trying this hard to piss me off. Once it goes that far it just feels like they're hamming it up. Plus I'm not really insecure about my art. I know what it is and what it isn't, and I'm fine with that.It would suck if some new artist who isn't secure got hit with that though.
>>4142778(2/2)>>4142762Yeah I didn't know who you were, just saw a neat looking fox mech I know comparisons to foxy were thrown around the thread but he was my fave animatronic to begin with anyway and I wanted to do something for an anon. Fuck those ai pushing retards tho.>>4142764Probably not anything good, anon. And I'll try to do studies but can't promise myself something I don't know if I'll keep.Holy wall of yap. Sorry, I'm just commuting to work hence the late responses. Also fuck you phone for thinking I was spamming
>>4142778>, I'll be honest I just tried to freehand it but for the love of god I couldn't wrap my head around how the muzzle should look like with such a pointy face.Don't worry, I had a lot of trouble with that too. He was a real learning experience for me back in the day. I still don't really think of his face in 3 dimensions, I think doesn't actually work in 3d. Its just a collection of 2d profiles that give the illusion of 3d while not actually making a coherent and consistent shape.I'm wondering if maybe you fell back on your muscle memory for drawing beaks, since that's a pointy facial structure that you are familiar with drawing.> don't think I'm anything worthy of that with how inconsistent I am in things.If you want to get more consistent, just practice. Quick sketching over and over again is a good way to build muscle memory and habits, which leads to making a good starting point on things more consistently. I don't even know how many sketchbooks of mine were just me drawing the same face over and over again trying to get it right.
>>4142780>he was my fave animatronicHe's everyone's favorite. At least out of the original cast.> And I'll try to do studies but can't promise myself something I don't know if I'll keep.Well if you can't do that, at least remember to have fun.
>>4142784Yeah, I didn't want to draw a side profile of him, even though it would have been the easier route,, so I may have just walked myself into a trap of my own.>muscle memory of beaks. I'm not sure anon, beaks are kindy easy because they point downwards and in my head they don't 'block' out vision of the other side of the face that much, if that makes sense.>quick sketchingThat's something I don't really do and probably shouldm whenever I draw, I'm working on a full picture, and want to work on that so I can finish it and not delay things any further.>>4142785That fox and his variations were sure popular.>have funHope I can anon.
>>4142794>That's something I don't really do and probably shouldm whenever I drawOh not for proper pictures. Just for practice. But if you still think that's a bad idea then fair enough.
>>4142795It's not a bad idea but I'm in this mentality that when I'm using what time I have for art, I would rather work on a full pic, than sketch and practice. It is not a good mental to have, I'm sure but it's one my mind won't leave me be with.
>>4142778>That's my secret, anon. I'm always frustrated with my art.Hah well, I've enjoyed your stuff so I look forward to you continuing to work on things.>>4142779>I find it hard to be bothered by people who are trying this hard to piss me off. Once it goes that far it just feels like they're hamming it up.that's fair, I know it still gets a lot of people but I can't blame you there.I posted a fic once and I wasn't really that insecure about it, but someone reposting it spoofed did make me feel a bit, something or another.>It would suck if some new artist who isn't secure got hit with that though.it's what I worry about the most with this website as a whole compared to what it used to be. there are plenty of people out there that want to try their hands at stuff, but then you have that demoralization engine always running. I hate seeing it happen. Alright, goodnight anons. time to get no fucking sleep. and if I don't sleep, I can't dream of characters dancing through my dreams.
>>4142678Gancho Cole and Pink Menace Kanako dressing up for Halloween
Brain fog this morning. Just doodled a dumb Roba face.
>>4135591DAWNPARTED (formerly UNDERSWAP: ECHOED) is accepting applications until November 6, particularly musicians and programmers. https://dawnparted.neocities.org/devlogs/fall26_minilogshowcase video: https://youtu.be/LYE7PPEhYyA
>>4142857nice looking roba you got there
>>4142859>accepting applications until November 6, particularly musicians and programmersDon't we all need those?
>>4142866>needing programmers and music guys in the age of AI
Where do you guys fit on this chart?
>>4142857hell yeah awesomeface roba.
>>4142885Somewhere around the porn part, but with drawings instead.
>>4142870If projects keep getting false cancellation docs without AI, imagine if they figure AI is involved
DRY android port is now on gamejolthttps://gamejolt.com/games/deltaruneyellowandroid/1113046
Cooking with Kindness updatehttps://gamejolt.com/p/trick-or-treat-the-sweet-autumn-update-post-art-by-yumi-8jdm3d58
Prev part >>4140636This will be the final part (part5) of the main draft of the FF5 pseudo Deltatraveler storyline, I will separate it into two parts: the regular ending, and the true ending, the true ending will be way longer, and will have a special secret final boss, but for now this part will feature the regular ending, I hope you find it interesting.After finishing their business in the castle the gang heads to follow the king and his men to the Walse Tower, where the meteor landed and the Water Crystal resides.They fly the Wind Drake to the outskirts of the tower, and see a herd of giant red elephant-looking monsters that disperse and run away upon seeing them.They figure these are the peaceful Garulas that they heard about in the town of Walse (this information is optional).With nothing left to see the party starts walking towards the tower, but before they can the Wind Drake signals for Susie.She walks close and addresses the creature who was looking worried about something.The Wind Drake, feeling something final coming transfers some kind of power into Susie, granting her some new draconic powers and abilities.Thankful for the gift Susie pets the Creature and thanks it before she and her friends finally depart for the tower.Once inside they are surprised to see signs of a battle and a group of dead and collapsed soldiers in the room.They talk to one of the ones that’s still alive and he tells them that a Garula stumped into the tower and went on a rampage, and expressed confusion as to why would a usually peaceful and docile Garula even do this, the party steels their resolve and starts making their way up the tower.1/4
>>4142943The tower will have a variety of dangerous enemies, along with the Ice soldier and elf toads again.The tower contains wyverns that attack with physical attacks and gusts of wind, and can be pacified, Pas de Seuls that attack physically and will try to poison. They cannot be pacified and must be destroyed.Lastly and most dangerously the tower contains the Ricard Mages, these human enemies can cast a wide variety of spells and can inflict different more dangerous status effects.They can inflict sleep (works the exact same way as it does in FF), slow (forces the affected party member to act after the enemies), and they can also inflict Stop (completely stops a party member in time, it doesn’t go away on its own and necessitates the use of a spell, item, or ACT, if all remaining party members are Stopped, you automatically lose the fight).The Ricard Mages are evil and fully aware of what they’re doing but can still be spared if you so please, when you deplete their health you can either finish them off or let them escape, there will be no consequences regardless of what you do (it’s merely for your own peace of mind).Halfway into the tower the party will run into the king collapsed in a hallway, he warns them that the Garula is on the top floor, and implores them to save the crystal.After a harrowing climb the party finally makes it to the top floor where the crystal resides, in the middle of the room along with the crystal they see the giant shape of the rampaging Garula and a mysterious unknown soldier confronting it.The soldier tries to stop it from reaching the Crystal but the creature beats him into the left wall mortally wounding him.With his dying breath he tells the party that the Garula is being controlled and to not let it destroy the Crystal.Garula directs its attention to the party, its body radiates an evil dark aura making it apparent its rampage is not normal, before charging at the party and beginning the fight.2/4
>>4142944Despite its technical status as the “Final Boss” Garula will be a very simple fight, he will attack with very direct physical attacks following simple aggressive patterns, Garula himself will have a very large health pool, and his attacks have a chance of sapping away some health after inflicting damage up to a certain amount (it will look like karma damage but it will have limits).Upon reaching half health Garula will grow desperate, changing its attack patterns into more aggressive variants and increasing its physical resistance, although his magic resistance remains the same, and he is particularly weak to ice so Noelle’s magic will be very effective (even better if she has Shiva’s blessing).Once at critical health Garula will slow down and his defenses will be reduced to zero, the dark aura around him will grow larger and more pronounced making it apparent that whatever evil influence has taken a hold of it is exerting its will, and will not allow Garula to back down.Along with its defenses being reduced, Garula will receive a boost in damage, the party will be unable to attack for a few turns, Susie, and Noelle will hesitate to attack the creature, the sight of it being forced to continue fighting against its will despite its debilitating injuries, inspires overwhelming pity and discomfort on the party.No matter how much you act Garula cannot be spared and will continue attacking until it is put down.Noelle and Susie finally come to terms with this reality and finally agree to finish the creature off. The party deals the final blow and Garula dies.Upon its defeat the dark miasma comes out of Garula and gathers a dark power before charging at the Crystal.The Crystal crackles with a dark energy before exploding into pieces, leaving the party in shock.3/4
>>4142946Noelle will lament their failure and Susie will growl in frustration, in the distance they will hear the voice of the evil influence responsible laughing at them, the laugh will come from every direction echoing around them before fading completely.The destruction of the crystal along with the presence of the Delta Warriors will trigger an interdimensional gateway opening where the Crystal used to be.Inside the portal they will catch glimpses of their home world and figure this is the way out, the party discuss the events that have transpired and their next course of action before resolving themselves to enter the portal and exit this world.They lament that they weren’t able to do more to help and finally enter the gateway, off towards their next destination.THE END?And this concludes the main story’s regular ending the real True Ending will be considerably more intricate and will feature a pretty interesting (I hope) secret final boss, I may even make an extra part outlining other optional locations and secrets, but for now I hope this was interesting enough.Once again thanks to whoever reads this for giving me the time of day and I’d appreciate any kind of input you have, regardless of whether it’s informed or not it’s all appreciated, thank you very much.4/4
I still think it is wrong to portray adult Kanako with brown fur. We only saw her as a child, and that's just how the fox kits are colored.Imagine Chujin's anguish when one day Kanako comes home with border collie markings like those Siberian domesticated foxes.
Ao3 may be down for around a month suddenly.
>>4142980the fuck happened?it's the php thing?
>>4142962Yeah. She should be a different color.Imagine....Sparkledog Kanako
>>4142984no idea. this is their most recent update "We estimate that service restoration for #AO3 will take around 2 weeks but it could be up to 4 weeks. We are hopeful that we will be able to bring the site back up in a degraded state sooner. If that does happen, there may be times when the site has to be brought down temporarily until this is fully resolved. Please stay tuned for further info."
>>4142962We headcanonned that Kanako would have pink fur when she grows up, that's what inspired her Dark World form.Also Adult Kanako maybe doesn't change her fur color due to amalgamation messing up with it, or the mines incident if it's DRY
>>4142992Imagine if amalgama Kanako can change the color of her fur at will, or depending on her emotions like a chameleon.
>>4143000>amalgamaI meant to say, “amalgam” my phone posting is exposing me.
>>4143000>starts blasting CaramelDansen while quickly shifting her colors
>>4142992It would be really cool if Nako's fur turned pink at the end of DRY
>>4142962there is a reason for that in DRY1
trying to work on getting my backups of the big local fics that were hosted on Ao3 going, but every time I use catbox, the formatting fucks up, and I'd rather not re-rupload every single one to litter box every 3 days
>>4142885A point not plotted on this chart, where something is really good, but I have spinoff ideas anyway.
>>4142962Orange + purple is brown. Monsters don't have normal biology, so it doesn't have to work like normal animal hair.
>>4143012I don't think it would. I feel like it would carry some narrative baggage with how its linked to her dark world form. It would make people assume things.
>>4142984It almost certainly is. Half the internet went down because of that, and a lot of more legacy styled sites like Ao3 are still down because there's no modern replacement for most of their code. Like the FreeDOS code and release archive is down and they haven't even acknowledged it or given an ETA on when it'll be fixed.
>>4143027Depends on how the story ends.But it would mean that >>4143013 got resolved
>>4143000She can probably shapeshift into whatever she wants. Other amalgams disguised themselves as inanimate objects, or the save icon (which has some implications)
>>4143032Well I still don't like it. And that could still be misread any number of ways. For one, it could be read the exact opposite way, with it saying that's permanently stuck in a childlike state mentally, because the dark worlds are associated with childish fantasy. For another, it could be read as some kind of simulation theory bait, like how Neo being able to hack in the real world did for the Matrix.
>>4143022Put them in a .doc, put that .doc in a zip, and put the zip on catbox. That should leave the fics unscathed.
>>4143038The amalgams were full of determination, so it kind of makes sense they could turn into a save icon as a disguise.
>>4143045I mean that they can see the save icon. That means that, at one point, that amalgam had the ability to save, which would also mean that it was, at one point, the most determined thing in the underground.
>>4143041I guess that's true. Although ironic considering her fur color never changing to the adult color is the "non-chilidsh" option
>>4143052Actually, there might be a fangame plot in here. Maybe that amalgam was briefly an incredibly determined monster, and had the ability to save and load while retaining their solid form. Any time they started to melt, they'd load their save, this allowing them to keep their physical form, so that allowed them to stay alive while the true lab went to hell. Then Flowey wakes up at the end, and that's what finally damns him. And maybe the major characters in the game could be the components of the amalgams, and we see them get picked off one by one.The game could be a horror themed game set almost entirely in the true lab. Likely taking influence from stuff like Rubyquest and RPG maker horror games.
>>4143059It is, but that's why I say it being her dark world color adds unintended narrative baggage.
>>4143044I'll try to do that, will have to wait till after work but I suppose that isn't so bad
>>4143064And if you really wanted to wear your influences on your sleeve, you could play as Rudy and call it Rudyquest.
>>4143052Considering they were given human determination, I wouldn't be surprised if they could see a save icon. In hindsight you could also argue Zenith Martlet could see them, and has ripple proof memory because of the determination in her body
Bouncy castle
...WHAT THE FUCK!
>>4143110>>4143134We need an *angry bug noises* image with DRY Sadie
>>4142885This chart is actually bimodal, on the left is the hump of mediocrity and on the right is the hump of apparently purposeful sabotage of characters and setting for the sake of hamfisting an unwanted and badly written narrative through. the subtitle is, "[the light inside is dying, but I still write, I have to, for their sake]"
>>4142943>>4142944>>4142946>>4142947One little addendum I’d like to add to my ramblings here is that the ill probably be waiting a while before writing my true final boss/ending, I wanna brainstorm it for maybe a couple of days until I’m satisfied with what I come up with.(Final part will largely be describing the boss fight itself)
>>4142944>They can inflict sleep, slow (forces the affected party member to act after the enemies), and they can also inflict StopThat slow status effect sounds like it would fuck you up the most since it would make the defend action mostly useless, same for the stop action, but I guess getting a party fully stopped must be hard or maybe the gimmick of the fight is about not getting those status with the enemies themselves not doing much damage.>You deplete their health you can either finish them off or let them escape, there will be no consequences regardless of what you do (it’s merely for your own peace of mind).Strange to see a big choice like that having no consequences in UT/DR, you could at least reference the mages later at some point if sparing them really changes nothing.>>4142946>and his attacks have a chance of sapping away some health after inflicting damagePersonally I've never been a fan of adding random elements to UT/DR besides the attack order in enemies, these games try to turn every chance based mechanic from JRPGs into something that is based on action, it think it could work if the effect is applied every 2 or 3 hits or there are some other conditions that dictate how the effect is applied.>Susie, and Noelle will hesitate to attack the creatureI can see this being a tense moment as you are trying to survive and your party members aren't listening to you, not having Ralsei to tell them to not hesitate and kill the thing would make the decision harder for them.>>4142947>The destruction of the crystal along with the presence of the Delta Warriors will trigger an interdimensional gateway opening where the Crystal used to be.The opening of the portal feels a bit random, all things considered, I guess they needed a way to come back to their world, I can't think of any other really since I didn't play FF5.
>>4143181>>4143208Forgot to ask, is there any meaningful distinction between physical and magical attacks that come from enemies? or are all of them just bullets and in this scenario the characters have a magic resistance and physical resistance stat?
>>4143216The way I would want to make it, yes i would make it so that every projectile and bullet has a different property, that is accounted for in the damage calculation, some thing like a bull projectile charging at you would do physical damage, while something like fireballs or beams of electricity would do magic damage of its respective element.If I had my way that’s probably how I would do it.
>>4143208>maybe the gimmick of the fight is about not getting those status with the enemies themselves not doing much damage.Yes this is basically what I had in mind, the Mages themselves would have no direct damage spells, and their only means of attack would be through physical attacks, and since they’re wizards their physical attack is very low, making them pretty wimpy (this does not account for any enemies that accompany them, but I feel that adds to the strategy of target priority)>Strange to see a big choice like that having no consequences in UT/DR, you could at least reference the mages later at some point if sparing them really changes nothing.I would probably still have it being mentioned after they leave the FF world but I meant more in the sense of no overarching moral consequences for actually killing them, or letting them go.>it think it could work if the effect is applied every 2 or 3 hits or there are some other conditions that dictate how the effect is applied.Nice suggestion, I’m not really set in stone on the whole making it random or not, so I’d simply choose whatever turns out to be more fun.>I can see this being a tense moment as you are trying to survive and your party members aren't listening to you, not having Ralsei to tell them to not hesitate and kill the thing would make the decision harder for them.There is definitely an element of this on the scene but I was more interested in emphasizing the moral dilemma of putting down the suffering creature, and the struggle that comes with actually going through with it (along with paralleling Kris a bit).>The opening of the portal feels a bit random, all things considered, I guess they needed a way to come back to their world, I can't think of any other really since I didn't play FF5.FF5 actually introduces the concept of dimension travel and the realm between dimensions in FF, and I just needed a way to end it here that vaguely works.
>>4143232Oh yeah that distinction with the shape of the bullets makes sense, physical/magic damage split wasn't necessary in Undertale since every source of damage is magical in that game.>strategy of target priorityThis is a pretty big thing in most turn based games but its not something you see in Undertale/Deltarune because most of the time you fight only one or two enemies at most, I had ideas for enemies that buff other monsters, apply debuffs to you or heal their allies to add a layer of strategy to fights but again, limited number of enemies per encounter.>they leave the FF worldI forgot that this is a Deltatraveler take and that should have more than a single world.>(along with paralleling Kris a bit).I didn't even think of that, that idea actually makes the whole encounter much cooler.>I just needed a way to end it here that vaguely works.Fair.
>>4143275>damn, they'll really make merchandise of ANYTHING
>>4143208>>4143216>>4143255I must say, I’ve definitely enjoyed answering all this questions, it’s kind of a new experience for me to clarify my thoughts and intentions with my writing, and coming up with the reasons why something works, or explaining how I envision it working, has been really fun, and it kinda makes me happy that people genuinely enjoy the little piece of autism that I made.>because most of the time you fight only one or two enemies at mostI actually envisioned this being rebalanced to have more enemies to contend with along with their health and defenses actually playing a factor since you’re gonna be forced to actually FIGHT a lot of things.>I forgot that this is a Deltatraveler take and that should have more than a single world.Yeah this is why I chose this specific chunk of FF5 to adapt, since it gives a good taste of the tone and themes of the game without getting into, super high stakes territory, this is what I stated back at the beginning of part one where it was all gonna start and end.>I didn't even think of that, that idea actually makes the whole encounter much cooler. I’m planning to have the true ending involve saving Garula, which will come with its own set of consequences, particularly involving the secret true final boss I mentioned before.
I take a nap to try and feel a bit better after getting less than three hours of sleep last night so I can continue drawing, and I wake up to find Patrick Stewart's dead.Back to work then.
>>4143277>I must say, I’ve definitely enjoyed answering all this questions, it’s kind of a new experience for me to clarify my thoughts and intentions with my writing, and coming up with the reasons why something works, or explaining how I envision it working, has been really fun, and it kinda makes me happy that people genuinely enjoy the little piece of autism that I made.Now you understand the magic of this place and why so many people chose to pick up a creative hobby in here.>I actually envisioned this being rebalanced to have more enemies to contend with along with their health and defenses actually playing a factor since you’re gonna be forced to actually FIGHT a lot of things.I imagine that would be the case, but I was thinking of things based on the current UT/DR style of enemy encounters since these games don't have that many fights against random enemies in a normal run.>spoilerWell, I have no idea who that secret boss might be.
>>4143299>Well, I have no idea who that secret boss might be.This will only make it more fun.
>>4143275>they didn't put anything under the skirt
Finally... My Geltarune. I get to play it.Still extremely excited that you made it to demo release GELtarune anon
>>4143389already enjoying Bradley being vocal.
cute Bastelect ketchup bed probably. I wont eat up all the images tonight, but there's been some charm points so far.
>>4143400It'd probably be better in a thread on /v/ if it happened, but I'd much rather have like, screenshots of people playing the games than reposted twitter art.
>>4143407I do enjoy when people bring new art they find, but I think a certain amount of the image limit should be saved for fangames and local art when possible.I'll be going to bed soon but I do plan on screenshotting and posting more of my playthrough of it this weekend now that I finally have time. the thought of bastelects ketchup bed is kind of sad. That can't be comfy, little gremlin.
>>4143410i mean, if the ketchup packet is (you) size it'd probably be a decent waterbed.
>>4143419the ketchup in that image looks like it's only big enough to be the pillow, though maybe she could just curl up on it until her nails pop it
Tall Not-Robas
Reminder that Chujin cucked Ceroba's cooking with Ms.Surup
Reminder thatTHIS IS CHUJINI FARTED...CHUJIN OUT
>>4143538So Sorry!...
>>4143539Butter dragon....
>>4143255>Oh yeah that distinction with the shape of the bullets makes sense, physical/magic damage split wasn't necessary in Undertale since every source of damage is magical in that game.I gave this some thought and came up with some ideas, if I was to apply the concept of affinities to UT/DR I would make it so that things like, Napstablook‘s tears deal water damage, ice cap’s auroras and ice spikes would deal ice damage, Undyne’s spears deal non-elemental magic damage (this would be the case for a lot of attacks), Gaster Blasters would deal light/holy damage, and Asgore’s trident would be one of the few instances of physical damage making it one of the hardest hitting attacks in the game.I could go on and on with this topic, maybe someone should make a mod about this and have it rebalance the entire game, it has potential to be a very interesting concept.
>>4143543Samuel go back to your goon cave, you are only allowed only one day on the outside
>>4143271What is she pondering about?
>>4143548why is hand is backwards
>>4143550You can't tell if it's backwards form the front because it's a paw
>>4143548Human boys.
>>4143553YOU'RE a paw!
>>4143557What?
>>4143558your heard me, paw.
>>4143560Actually Kawkaw
What if Kanako and Chujin were reborn as AI hologram assistants
>>4143563They wouldn't be reborn, as that would merely be a copy of them
>>4143545I think enemies with different types of elements could only really work well in Deltarune where you have multiple party members, I don't think elemental damage adds much depth when you got a single character and you equipment options are very limited, unless each elemental damage type comes with its own status effect.
>>4143565A fair point, I really didn’t think of that, still it’s an interesting thing to think about, and I can definitely apply the same concept to Deltarune.
>>4135591Sorry to bring him up again, but apparently, some of Martlet Drawanon’s art got taken down on E621 for being “AI Assisted”I noticed this when I saw his recent art was suddenly gone from the UTY tag. How did the mods even figure that out?
>>4143573Even the images that were just lines and flats added were apparently "AI Assisted" so I feel like someone just mass reported him.
Would AI Ceroba be able to perfect Chujin's formula?
>>4143548Why she's still alive perhaps?
>>4143574Flats and Lines can be AI generated or assisted. Maybe someone did mass report him, but I really doubt the E621 mods would just carelessly mass take down so much art in one day
>>4143581She would make soul slop with Chujin's formula, so basically the same thing OG Roba did
>>4143535is the goal with making them so tall to prevent yumeshipping?
>>4143587>Will this work?>Yes I have no doubt it will not go wrong>It went wrong>You're right, I am sorry.
>>4143594AI Ceroba after telling Kanako that taking the jab is a good idea
>>4143586A good number of his art is still there, even some alts and other flats and lines, so this does feel like a mass report. E621 mods can be very jumpy over the slightest inconvenience.
>>4143586>>4143598I think when they find out an artist uses AI they are quick to take down other art by the same artist that could potentially have been made using AI or with AI assistance.
>>4143600If that was the case they would have taken down all of his art, but they didn't, so it feels like someone just mass reported a bunch of his art out of spite.
>>4143604I'm gonna assume the rest of the art wasn't flagged as being AI assited, just the stuff that got deleted
>>4143608I think everything was, an alt of one of his arts is fine but the original somehow isn't fine. This was definitely targeted.
I was going to do my monthly checkup to see if 1000 Years I Love You updated but ao3 is down, hope it gets resolved soon but their bluesky said something about it taking weeks to fix?
>>4143618I don't know if that's ever gonna get finished. Though if the writer's previous work is any indication, the ending will surely be a big bowl of what in the goddamn was that.
I should start another Ketsukane run on Rimworld. Hopefully Kanako doesn't die within the first year like every other time1. Ceroba's stray bullet domes her2. Prisoner escapes and shanks her in the barracks 3. A Donkey bites her neck and she dies from the bruise4. Went into the vacuum of space without a helmet.
>>4143613Assuming (You) are MD and considering how terminally online you are, I don’t know what you expected. I’m not the drawanon you harassed off here, and I did notice that he was removing some of your tags. But, you did some stupid bullshit for almost 2 years by sockpuppeting and harassing people who didn’t like your art. Have fun not being to push your mid fetish as much anymore lol
>>4143633Samefag, I meant *not being able to
>>4143622Ketsukane run with RJW installed...
>>4143618Ao3 being down for this long hurts me. There's stuff I want to read but can't now.
>>4143548When Clover is going to ask her out.
>>4143538Someone find and dust him.
>>4143650Melody...
>>4143276If it can make money, it can be made into merchandise.
>>4143651Just get Clover to gun down Chujin.
What if the Warden was Mexican?
>>4143658Then he'd be... I don't know, I got nothing.
>>4143658More ATK less HP.
>>4143655Clover would show him that not all Humans are evil and then Chujin will let him date his daughter.
>>4143658Instead of handcuffs he gives you Chili Peppers.
sex anthro
>>4143658He would be arrested by ICE-E agEnt-Es
>>4143675which?
>>4143622Are there Undertale mods for Rimworld? Been looking to get back into that game for some time.
>>4136519Is the non-Deltarune music original or from some other game? I really like that battle music.
>>4143692the battle music is from what a mario world >>4137210there is a txt file in the zip that has the sources for the tracks
>>4143694Ahh, I see.Are those themes going to be final, or just placeholders, I wonder? I do like that song very much.
>>4143698likely will remain if geltanon can't get a composer to helpI just hope that if he does get a composer that they keep the same vibe and energy the current themes have, because I don't want to lose that battle theme
>>4143682Hyperdeath Asriel.
>>4143723Fag
>>4143723BASED!
>>4143749Chara...
>>4143658The Ringo redesign isn't bad but him looking shitty is part of what makes him funny.
>>4143699He can always get a composer to remix the battle theme so many times it feels like a new song that keeps the same vibe, something like that happened with the theme for the Devourer of Gods from the Calamity mod, if I'm not mistaken the theme originally was a remix of Cave Story's final boss theme, but through constant remixes it became an original song that still has some of that theme from Cave Story.
>>4143766The remix of Theseushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1psuRNXq94https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u_D3afnK7Uhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opvuEVpl_PM
>>4143751Frisk.
Well I'm bored and going to mess with some Visual Novel chatbots. Funny I found a UTY one. Lots and I mean LOTS of Sans AU romance VNs.
>>4143878Are those ran locally?
>>4143880No it's a website.https://labs.zeta-ai.io
>>4143878>LOTS of Sans AU romance VNsWomen, wtf?
>>4143573Holy shit, seriously?I fucking knew something was off about his shit, god damn.
>>4143760He is a fungi, eh?
>>4143573I believe I have some answers for you.Apparently they saw something we didn't.
>>4143892oh so there were ai prompts embeded into the images' metadata?guess that's how they got it
>>4143892Are they saying that him catboxing his posts is what gave it away? I never heard of images storing prompt metadata
>>4143898>>4143899Yeah, it's weird, but maybe there's some kind of "tell" left over when an image has been spat out by an AI, and none of us ever bothered to check, or knew what to look for to start out with.That is funny though, given how many people respected him for his art on a technical level, only for it to turn out that he didn't even have that.
>>4143888Yeah it's crazy.At least there's some 'battles' like I won against God of Hyperdeath Asriel because I called his dick a glowing rainbow popsicle and he got so angry and embarrassed about it. "STOP CALLING IT THAT!!!"
>>4143903>given how many people respected him for his art on a technical leveleh....
>>4143903Hmm... I remember him posting his lineart. Do you think he actually drew stuff but used AI to edit the image, or did he just trace the AI pic?
>>4143912Some people did, at least.This explains a lot though, like his first image of Wiki being so weird looking and not at all like her, it was an AI making a fucked up interpretation of her that he didn't bother to correct before posting.It also explains why that "sketch" he posted when he was trying to throw people off was just lineart, it was an AI generated image to start out with, rather than an actual sketch.
>>4143899I don't think that's the case, an image should have it's metadata regardless. It's weird how some images are flagged and others aren't as they're all drawn in pretty much the same way.
>>4143907>Coils of KinshipWho introduced Quetzali to skeletonwank?
>>4143914Could go either way.Some AI "artists" just trace over AI generated images, but others have the AI generate a fake "sketch" as proof that they're drawing it themselves.
>>4143914maybe he used a sketch to then produce line art or something? honestly crazy how the rabbit hole just, keeps on going.
>>4143917Not always, images on 4chan lose even their normal filenames when you download them, so it's possible other things get lost as well that would be retained through something like catbox.
>>4143917I would normally assume that catboxing an image would alter the metadata though
>>4143914Honestly it's hard to tell, if he used ai to edit an image he drew it would be pretty obvious, and if he just traced over an ai image there would be deformed or strange parts of the body.
>>4143925I know typically it's used for bypassing the image rule but strictly speaking catbox is for general filesharing so retaining metadata would be important.
>>4143934>and if he just traced over an ai image there would be deformed or strange parts of the body.Well, I don't have it on hand anymore, but he did make a pretty fucked up looking Wiki, and he had some really strange proportions on more than one occasion, like that Martlet dress image.I think it makes sense, honestly.It also explains why so many of his images were fairly bog standard, basic standing positions or symmetrical, front-facing poses, it was the AI's strengths he was working with a lot of the time.
>>4143613>This was definitely targeted.Hey Bucklemeario.So, for the record, as the main guy you fucked with, I actually didn't do shit, I woke up to this as surprised as you are. Probably a lot happier though, heh.Get fucked. Your AI shit has no place here, or anywhere. Get some real skills.
>>4143899>I never heard of images storing prompt metadatathey always did, its why the AI threads request catbox links constantly for the "same" image
>>4143917>>41439244chan removes metadata because people were using it to dox anons
>>4143950Yeah, that's about what I figured.
>>4143950Does catbox do that as well?
>>4143953no, though I think most types of image posting are safe in that you're not gonna get doxed by them.The main thing that gets you doxxed is the exif on photos you take IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
>>4143953Technically yes, but it was happening because by default phones tagged geolocation and other PID onto photos taken with them as was customary with photos since it's important for things like copyright, and mostly hung around on the trust system that people wouldn't be fags about it.
>>4143951see pic related for an example of why it was removed, though I think it happened more in /soc/ and other red boards than the /v/ related stuffthere was also that time people were embedding CP into images>>4143953no, catbox preserves the full metadata, which in this case includes AI prompts. if you enter an AI thread you'll see tons of people requesting catbox links exactly so they can get the prompt data for the images posted
>>4143892Honestly, I can't believe I gave him so much grace for so long, in hindsight he's comically bad, like the villain of a poorly written fanfic>Was extremely insecure to the point he sockpuppeted to defend himself and his fetish as something artistic and not pornographic>Had no respect for our code of conduct trying to insert his fetish whenever he could and repeated the same topics multiple times. >Was a double faced snake that constantly talked about doing things because its what makes him happy and not because he cared about fame.>Gave drawing "advice" to other anons.>Samefagged so much he made one our drawanons believe he wasn't welcome here>Almost destroyed our community by not addressing the accusations of him samefagging, making us fight with each other even replying to his own posts as if they were third parties.>HAD THE FUCKING NERVE TO TRY TO PASS AS A NEW DRAWANON IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT DRAMA.>Turns out he used AI this whole time, so his only virtue (his technical skill) was a lie tooTo whoever is writing the plot of these threads, I hope you give us a better written (and less destructive) villain for the next arc. Also sorry for ever doubting you nameless drawanon.
>>4143892can someone link one of the posts with an embedded prompt from the archive?still hate the guy, i just wanna confirm for myself.
>>4143963nta, but not knowing which posts were removed from e6, I'm not sure which images had them on them.
>>4143961Oldentale anon, is that you?
>>4142938hmm, very good very very good
>>4143971sorry, I'm not Oldentale anon. But I hope he reaches the same conclusion from seeing this.
>>4143892>>4143961I dont often come to the thread so uh wtf happened
>>4143974nta but I do imagine the ai revelation will be a punch in the gut for him as well. Makes me nauseous that I almost wrote something for the guy without realizing it.>>4143976the "martlet drawanon" got exposed for samefagging harassing other anons for like the last year a couple weeks ago, and now it turns out he may have been making his art with "ai assistance"
>>4143976tl;dr: doodoofart "artist" that samefagged a lot caught by furfags as AI fag
>>4143976Remember the guy who avatarfagged calling himself "Martlet Drawanon" and drew unbirth porn? It turns out he was the most pathetic human being these threads have ever seen.
>>4143974Ah, I see.Thank you for your words, however.
>>4143979>furfagsGet out of her sharty
>>4143985>Get out of herbut he hardly knew 'er!
>>4143985nta, to be fair It was the people at esix that exposed him, they are literal furfags
>>4143977>>4143979>>4143980> "Martlet Drawanon" and drew unbirth porn> unbirth pornOh him, so he was harassing others by samefagging and making his shit with ai, huh?wow complete fucking loser
>>4143985Are you being silly on purpose? Like, I think it'd be completely nontroversial to say the people running e6 are furries, or is there some new retard way of using old internet vernacular of suffixing -fag that is being claimed as some sort of shartspeak?
>>4143985you dont have to be [the scum] to hate [the other scum]
>>4143994To get things entirely clear, I have no problem with furries.Like, actual furries, not therians or any of the other LGBT forks that think they have to be allowed to fuck animals or their rights are being violated.They're like, one of the few web demographics I actually somewhat respect since they give a damn about quality and doing things right.
>>4143995actual furries are still pests, they dont understand the phrase "keep it to yourself" and infest fucking EVERYTHING with their crap.
>>4143996this is part of what got furries such a bad reputation on the early internet. whats that? a discussion about literally anything?TIME FOR AN INFLATION PORN DUMP.some of them are alright.
>>4143991Yep, that's about the long and short of it.I think it's pretty safe to say scum like him is never welcome around here.
>>4143996>they dont understand the phrase "keep it to yourself" and infest fucking EVERYTHING with their crap.NTA, but damn, maybe the AI fag was a bonafide furry himself, that about fits the bill.
>>4144004he represents some of the worst aspects of the community. Some of the other anons in these threads who willingly accept being called furry I will never accept it due to people like that guy represent the good aspects.
So, should we even call him the "Martlet drawanon" now? Even aside from him forcing the name for himself, in blatant violation of how we do things around here, he wasn't even an actual drawanon, he just got a computer to do the heavy lifting for him.What do we actually call him now?
>>4144008Martlet"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Draw""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""anon
>>4144014Alright, that got a laugh out of me.
>>4144008The Yehats reaction to the Pkunk is about the same as mine to that guy.
>>4144019Oh, believe me, I don't wanna give the fucker any more attention at this rate, but I think we should at least be allowed to laugh at the guy, or, when applicable, briefly explain what he did to emphasize why he's absolutely not welcome back, ever. For the people who don't know.Let that be his legacy.
>>4144008Just call him unbirthanon like he used to be at first
>>4144022Yeah, but I feel like we should also emphasize that he was a fraud, and wasn't a real drawanon.He needs a mark of shame for what he did to us.
>>4144008marbles slopfaggon
>>4144021>but I think we should at least be allowed to laugh at the guy, or, when applicableoh absolutely. maybe you gotta hear the whole segment to get the full effect.if you'd be willing to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAs7Ob_i_I0&t=from about the one minute mark, you get a really good feeling for how the Yehat feel about the Pkunk at this point in the story.
>>4144008AifagJust like the Holy Roman Empire, he's none of the things in that self imposed title, he's not a real Martlet fan (never got her personality right), not someone that can draw (used AI) and certainly not anonymous (insisted in avatarfagging)
>>4144025>>4144028Wait! Avatar slopfag.I think that suits him better.
>>4143997sorry but the pot is calling the kettle black
>>4144026Oh, still need to play that game sometime.But yeah, that's fair.
>>4144030Yeah, I think that works, really nails who he is.
>>4144031>4chan anons generally stick to their site talking about stuff with eachother, normally giving eachother room to entertain different flavors of autism>the wider furry fandom however is aggressive about stamping out things they don't approve of while forcing their shit in other communities they weren't a part of until then.I suspect I've touched a nerve if anything.
>>4143892When you think this guy can't get any lower, he starts digging.
>>4144035The basement of disappointment always has a lower floor.
>>4144034I'm talking about specifically the fangames general.This started as a place for devs to share progress and it was looked down to post smut here.I'm not trying to make a revolution here, the window for that has passed, but I'll always remind you of the truth.
>>4143992It's one of his catchphrases that he used to regularly say.
>>4144040>This started as a place for devs to share progress and it was looked down to post smut here.oh it's you again. people have been posting smut since the threads first started back when the game came out. I'm not entertaining your psychosis today. Hell, Sig has been with us since the beginning.
>>4144040>fangames general>general
>>4144044Sig shared his stuff through catbox links now and then and he was mostly active on the /v/ threads which did in fact always had smut.We never got endless paragraphs of people discussing the stuff.
>>4144044I've been here since the first Yellow threads and yeah, Sig is one of the main reasons for why these threads exist in the first place, he was also the one that drew the first Deltarune Yellow concept if I'm not mistaken, the one with Yellow Clover and pink Kanako with the Kanabo.
>>4144048We also used to have more threads when activity was high, but jannies have been fags for a long while.
>>4144045Reminder that Teddy Roosevelt is going to be important to UTW's story
>>4144049yeah, I've got the image somewhere, but he did those images. absolute legend the guy is for being here with us all this time.>>4144048I'm not entertaining your nonsense today man. The threads have been pretty good and on topic with a good mix of discussion types. Hopefully we can get a Geltarune thread this weekend too.
>>4144044NTA, but this stuff was left to the /v/ threads. There wasn't much hornyposting here initially
>>4144057we had like one overtly horny discussion in the last week I think. the one about milking Luzma. we then moved on and discussed a large variety of topics.
>>4144057nta, either, while I agree that these threads originally didn't have much if any horny posting, they barely got replies, these threads used to last for more than a month, it was common for them to get only a handful of posts per day. Nowadays the threads get all kinds of posts, not only horny ones.
>>4144022Unbirthingfag is what I called him sometimesGod, I wonder if he self inserts into Clover or something
>>4144064sometimes I self insert as clover when he gets hugs from his monster family because that just sounds really nice.
It's a very strange feeling, seeing this happen. At first I thought he was a good artist, just with some psychotic fans. I left, because it seemed like the threads were pushing me out, in favor of him.Then, thanks to the deductive skills and perseverance of some rather sharp anons, it was revealed that *he* was the psychopath, and that he relentlessly harassed me to chase me out of the threads, so he could have more attention to his own work.And now, it turns out his "work" wasn't even his work at all. It was all just repetitive garbage, churned out by an AI. He was utterly talentless himself. Maybe that's why he targeted me for criticizing him, he wanted me off his trail.It has been surreal, watching this unfold, being his target. A sequence of events I find utterly bizarre. While I am sad to say I played little part in his exposure and subsequent downfall, other than having been his punching bag for so long, I am very thankful to the anons here who worked to oust him, not even for my sake, but for the sake of this community, though I did not consider myself a part of it during my exile.I don't know if I consider this all to be "over". I do know he still lurks here, if the person trying to shut down conversation on the matter while saying "cut of" a while back is anything to go off of. Perhaps he'll always be around, trying to reestablish himself in our threads, or perhaps to simply target me again.But no matter what, I am grateful to those who pushed back against him. I believe I feel just a bit better about being here now.Thank you.And thank you for having me back.I'll get back to drawing now.
>>4144064He seems to be self-inserting into Martlet by the way he talks (or atleast his version of her).
>>4144069Well, that would be interesting, wouldn’t it? Usually, men don’t self insert into the female characters
>>4144064>God, I wonder if he self inserts into Clover or somethingNTA, but I do remember he once vehemently argued about his images not being /ss/, despite Clover pretty clearly being the same age he was in UTY itself in the contexts of his images, so it's possible he may have been self-inserting.Or maybe he was self-inserting as Martlet, based on how much of his identity he oriented around her.God, that gives me the creeps.
>>4144068All he did was very fucked up but its good to see that one of our anons is back, and unlike that thread lolcow, this one actually draws for himself. Keep up the good work anon.
>>4144068>At first I thought he was a good artist, just with some psychotic fans.Same. I wasn’t really interested in his style personally, but I thought it was technically good before the truth came out today. I guess he might still have -some- skill since not all his posts were removed but not as good as we thought. I do wonder what even got him obsessed with Martlet, the fetish, UTY, and here. His account was dormant on E6 for almost 10 years before the game came out. He actually had standard looking gay porn mostly in his favorites before he went completely dormant
>>4144075He literally made an image of Clover breastfeeding Martlet, nipples exposed and all. It might still be up
>>4144094>Clover breastfeeding MartletI pray to god you mean the other way around.
>>4144075this may be controversial to some anons, but I don't even personally have an issue if the guy was into /ss/. I was always open about people being into weird shit on 4chan so long as it was fictional.it's just about everything else about the guy that I am unwilling to accept or tolerate.
>>4144094>Clover breastfeeding MartletI think you got that order wrong, anon. anyway nta but I saw that image and I know for a fact that it was made by another of our drawanons, the slopfag was a weirdo in a lot of ways, but that specific image wasn't his "work".
>>4144094That wasn't him, that was just art he added lines and flats too. A different drawanon here drew that.
>>4144096Shit, yes I meant the other way around, my bad
>>4144099Fair enough, but I think it was his unwillingness, or perhaps simple dishonesty, regarding the matter, that ties into everything else here.
>>4144105>but I think it was his unwillingness, or perhaps simple dishonesty, regarding the matter, that ties into everything else here.That's 100 percent fair. His constant reframing of things into "this isn't a fetish" and all that did belie a certain dishonesty in his character.
>>4144090>I do wonder what even got him obsessed with Martlet, the fetish, UTY, and here.My personal theory is that he saw how a lot of people were trying their hand at art, developing games, and writing, he got inspired and wanted to be part of that group, legitimately tried to learn how to draw, But his monstrous ego got in the way, he was too afraid of posting something that could get negative criticism so he used AI to "improve" his art, that way he wouldn't have to expose his real level of skill, he would be safe fromcriticism, it clearly didn't work.
>>4144100>>4144103Also didn’t know this. I guess the unbirthingfag just lacks talent truly then
>>4144111NTA, but seems so, yeah.And he had to go and make it everyone else's problem.
To the people who may have drawn something for him, or received something from him, I hope you aren't feeling too bad about this.What he did was disgusting, but he fooled all of us. Don't beat yourselves up over it.Onto better things.
>>4144129I am fuming. I am swooning. I am jongling. I am....all of me.
>>4144131Okay.
>>4144129Eh, porn is porn. I just hope those with similar fetishes aren't afraid to continue drawing or sharing it.
it thought it was painfully obvious when he samefagged but I never wanted to give him attention or derail the thread
>>4144136I don't think anyone here has an adjacent fetish other than normal pregnancy, and no one here has a problem with that.Hell, no one even had a problem with the unbirthing itself, just how he shoved it into everything, acting like a cancer cell.
>>4144141Some people here outside of him drew related stuff to it, I'm just saying I hope those guys continue to stay motivated despite all this.
>>4144153NTA but agreed. I'm not even into any of that shit but I want them to keep chasing their crazy ass dreams. >>4144129Thanks anon. I've had mixed feelings on it since he did draw a request for me and I had made something small for him, but it's probably best to not kick my own ass over this.
>>4144153Aye, fair enough.Curious if they're still fans of him though, given everything that's happened. I can't imagine what it's like to be one of the devs whose characters he "drew", or one of the people who made fanart for him. Can't imagine it feels good, either way.
>>4144158>but it's probably best to not kick my own ass over this.Like I said, you couldn't have known. It's not your fault.>I had made something small for himWhat'd you make for him?
>>4144159Honestly I wouldn't have cared if he was just open. I would of been like, cool do your thing.
>>4144161>What'd you make for him?wrote a green.>Like I said, you couldn't have known. It's not your fault.I know, I hope anons can still keep that feeling of doing things in good faith for eachother as we've been doing thus far, because it's one of the things that I think makes the community we have great.>>4144137I always second guessed myself when he'd start samefagging at the people who called him out.
>>4144162>I would ofMhmm.Funny to see some defense for him once discussion dies down a bit.
>>4144163>wrote a green.Ah, I see. Well, if nothing else, know that you put more effort and humanity into that green than ever went into any of his "drawings". I hope it's not too badly tainted for you.>I know, I hope anons can still keep that feeling of doing things in good faith for eachother as we've been doing thus far, because it's one of the things that I think makes the community we have great.Exactly. It's a shame he messed that up for so long.I think things can get better now, at least.
>>4144153Agreed, it may not be for everyone, but I also wish for them to continue drawing what they' like.
Ceroba no...Don't eat that spicy pickle...
>>4144171Those are called peppers, usually.
>>4144171What is this a reference to?
>>4144129Speaking of the unbirthingfag/Bucklemeario, he deactivated his e621 accountLol
>>4144178Holy shit, actually?
>>4144178Yo, nice.Bet he's probably just gonna make a new account or something though, try and throw us off his trail.If not, rip bozo, lol.
>>4144177nothing. But I have been seeing a lot of AI generated videos of Deltarune x Rick and Morty x Pickles for some reason on Twitter.
>>4144129>To the people who may have drawn something for him, or received something from him, I hope you aren't feeling too bad about this.I was happy when he drew Bedo and I was curious on how the other UTN characters would look in his style if he ever drew them, but that's not gonna happen now, and I'm not saying this like a bad thing, he really was sad and dishonest till the bitter end, I don't know for how long he thought he could keep lying through his teeth. Without a doubt he's the most pathetic person our community has seen, and lets hope no one ever gets close to his level.
>>4144178Keeping an eye on his account?
>>4144187I'm sorry you had to put up with your character getting turned into slop like that, glad he never got to the rest.
>>4144188NTA, can't blame him, I discovered a few days ago that he still lurked our threads because he was the one who uploaded the Zenith Quetzali pic to e621, no doubt he has seen our latest posts too.
oh no.
>>4144178Just went and looked. His comments are all gone but I have his comment history backed up if he tries this shit again >>4144186I don't know why this is funny to me. Not a fan of the ai slop, but what the fuck kind of crossover is that?>>4144191speaking of, were the images he uploaded also removed now that this happened? Does someone need to go and re-upload the zenith quetz art? I don't really know how tagging works.
>>4144192what's the oh no? are you trying to get it to be the same font or something?
>>4144190It was for the best, I still have some morbid curiosity on how the characters would look in "his style" but nothing of value was really lost, really with how samey the all ended up looking I think the picture I have in my head must be pretty accurate.
>>4144180>>4144181It's for real. If you go to the undertale yellow tag on there and check the most recent Martlet art by the artist sebtoons, which was uploaded by the unbirthingfag, his account is now listed as "unactivated". And, his name was replaced with a placeholderI can't screenshot it because of the nsfw context, but you could find it>>4144188I didn't really stalk his account at all until yesterday
>>4144191Fair. I knew he was lurking a bit before that, when someone came in trying to say that anyone still talking about what happened just couldn't "shut up and let go", while also making that same "of/off" mistake.He's bad at hiding, he just tries to manipulate people into seeming crazy when they try and point it out.He's almost certainly still here even, reading what we're saying about him. He was probably the guy earlier defending him and saying that his work was being "targeted".I guess when all he did was target other people, that's all he assumes anyone else does too.
>>4144192I think thats the same font as the regular dialogue font, at least that's what I use for DRY
>>4144192It seems you keep getting tortured by the fonts
>>4144193>speaking of, were the images he uploaded also removed now that this happened? Does someone need to go and re-upload the zenith quetz art? I don't really know how tagging works.NTA, but no, things he uploaded stay up unless specifically deleted.
>>4144198forgot to add, also scaled down by 80% on the Y axisthe 0 is different but everything else is similar enough so I don't really mind it
>>4144200ok good to hear. I don't want other artists suffering any more from his bullshit.
>>4144193I just checked and the Zenith Quetzali pic is still there, but his username is gone, he's just "user_248627" now.
>>4144193>were the images he uploaded also removed now that this happened? Does someone need to go and re-upload the zenith quetz art?I think it's still there. If someone deactivates or gets banned, their posts won't be removed unless if it breaks the rules, which is why not all of his uploads got deleted
>>4144194yes i have been sent back to font hell>>4144198the damage font is pretty different from the regular dialogue font, almost looks like they're special sprites rather than a distinct font.which would be rather inconvenient.
>>4144201>bymeant to say "to"
>>4144203>>4144204makes sense. I just wasn't sure how nuclear that site went about these kind of things. especially considering I think he uploaded some of the other guy that was into pregnancy arts stuff. It's not my thing but I mean it genuinely, other artists shouldn't be made to suffer any further by this guy.
>>4144205ok so they are specialized sprites, but the fandom did recreate it into a usable font type.https://fontstruct.com/fontstructions/show/2312689/greater-determination-dr-damage
>>4144195I think they'd probably just look like fucked-up caricatures of the characters, rather than actually looking like the characters properly.I said before that it felt like he never really cared for what made the characters work, and I guess I was right, just in a way more extreme way than I thought.I knew we'd get slop of these characters eventually, if they got popular enough outside of here, I just never imagined the first AI slop of them would come from inside the threads.Man.
>>4144205>yes i have been sent back to font hellI have faith in you anon, I don't want you to suffer font hell, I want to see you bring this work to life
>>4144193>I don't know why this is funny to me. Not a fan of the ai slop, but what the fuck kind of crossover is that?Man, I don't know.https://x.com/trumppawjob/status/2115159439858950610
>>4144210>I think they'd probably just look like fucked-up caricatures of the characters, rather than actually looking like the characters properly.I guess the heads would vaguely resemble a conventionally attractive version of the animal/thing the character is based on and the body would just be a generic sexy body as well, I wonder if he could even draw Luzma with whatever tools he used.
>>4143961Honestly, props to the "writer" for making all the clues line up so perfectly in retrospect, a lot of mysteries leave plot holes behind that make the final answer unsatisfying, but this one is about as tied up as it gets.The villain was comically evil, but all the clues were perfectly placed. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle would be proud.Or severely pissed that people still know him for Sherlock Holmes and little else, who knows.
>>4144215holy fuck slop doesn't even begin to describe this shit. they can't even separate the times when rick is talking and asriel starts talking. "ai is getting better guys" and this is what they have.i'm laughing, but not in a "this is good, I want more!" way
>>4144218>I guess the heads would vaguely resemble a conventionally attractive version of the animal/thing the character is based on and the body would just be a generic sexy body as wellYeah, probably.The way he fucked up Wiki, maybe we missed out on getting to see horrifying human-faced Quetzali too, what a shame.>I wonder if he could even draw Luzma with whatever tools he used.Oh, probably not, her not having legs would probably mess with it. of course, he could always have simply cropped her lower body out of whatever image he might have made of her, like he did a lot of other times.Whatever the case may be, hopefully he's done molesting all our favorite characters now, for good.
>>4144226It's like I'm watching a car crash in slow motion. Watching the driver fly through the windshield.
>>4144230I hadn't yet watched all of it when I posted that. it just keeps on getting worse and worse. unfathomable. Genuine cosmic horror.
>>4144227>The way he fucked up Wiki, maybe we missed out on getting to see horrifying human-faced Quetzali too, what a shame.I think his Quetzali would have looked just like his Ceroba and his Kanako, she does have a pretty generic anthro face, I still think I could have given her a more snake like design.Yeah I guess the only real problem for him would have been generating a cyclos face that looked enough like hers.>Whatever the case may be, hopefully he's done molesting all our favorite characters now, for good.Hopefully he's done molesting our threads in general.
>>4144236>cyclosCyclops*
>>4143892I want to see the methodology for this. As shitty as he is, I wouldn't put this past him, but jannies are also shitty, regardless of site, and people can be genuinely schizophrenic about AI sometimes, so I don't want to jump to conclusions. Not gonna say he isn't using AI, I'd just like to see what tells they saw in the metadata. If possible I'd even like to know the depths of what his prompts were.
>>4144236>I think his Quetzali would have looked just like his Ceroba and his Kanako, she does have a pretty generic anthro face, I still think I could have given her a more snake like design.Partially fair, but I think she has some distinction that makes her face a bit less generic. I like her teeth.>Yeah I guess the only real problem for him would have been generating a cyclos face that looked enough like hers.Maybe, maybe. Probably her body type too, if he wanted to make her look more notably built, and not just the same thin build but with abs pasted on. He always had trouble making varying body types, and I guess we know why now.Man.>Hopefully he's done molesting our threads in general.Of course, but still. I hate to see the characters people have so much passion for here turned into lifeless, soulless caricatures of themselves in any context.
>>4144240NTA but I'm looking into it now myself. I don't really know how it works yet.
>>4144240I'll try and find the source images again, I know he posted them on 4chan in a /birb/ thread using an external image gallery.
>>4143586>, but I really doubt the E621 mods would just carelessly mass take down so much art in one dayE6 mods have done it before. They do it to deltarune art a lot. For a while basically anything that had both the "young" and "human" tags got removed automatically, even if there was no young human in the image, or the depiction was non pornographic.
>>4144242Everything he's drawn can be found here.https://catbox.moe/c/c3u4px
>>4144208ah fuck it i cant be bothered to waste an entire weekend on this im just using DT mono.
>>4144245I don't think any of the guy's images actually had the "young" tag, despite Clover being depicted or implied to be a child in most if not all of them.
>>4143760This, its that stupid face of his that sells the joke.
>>4143658What is the logic behind these redesigns?
>>4144240I'm curious about the method as well, but even if we can't see it somehow, it does make a lot of sense.It explains his constantly repeated poses and body types, it explains how he got Wiki's face so badly wrong when he first drew her, despite no images of her at the time looking like that, and it explains his weird, stilted writing in just about every image he ever made. It also explains that time I asked him what brush and program he uses towards the start of the year, and he was weirdly avoidant and obfuscating about it, like he didn't have an actual answer to my questions.The clues are all there, we just don't know how the final conclusion was reached.
>>4143766It wouldn't be the same.
>>4143878>Well I'm bored and going to mess with some Visual Novel chatbotsHow's that work?
>>4143907In character
>Gets fingerprinted as uploading AI art>Account gets deleted>Guys look at this AIslop it's the most interesting AIslop ever>Veracity of E6 jannies is called into question with a lazy comparison to 4chan's and specifically issues with what was happening to posts tagged "young"Hmm... noticing.
>>4144256I think him not having any past or present social media presence and apparently no art from him existing outside of these threads could be a clue of him using AI, he would have gotten exposed pretty quickly on Twitter.
>>4144262Oh yeah, reminds me of when a popular furry artist called Csnuft got exposed for using AI to do basically everything, they got ran off twitter back in january.This guy wouldn't have lasted a day on twitter, that perfectly explains it.
>>4144261Yeah, I thought it was kinda weird when someone showed up and started defending him again once major discussion died down earlier.I think the guy's scrambling to try and right this somehow, and failing badly.
>>4144266possibly, but I'll give some credence to the possibility that anons in different time zones are waking up and wanting to see for themselves.Though I think the guy deactivating his account is telling.
>>4144266>>4144267I'm pretty sure the anon who replied recently must be someone who just woke up/came from work, the other posts defending him before that are sus tho, specially the one calling it a targeted attack.
>>4144268>specially the one calling it a targeted attack.oh yeah I'm pretty confident the "targeted attack" person was him, considering he clammed up when called by that username, and then suddenly the username got deactivated.
>>4144269Oh yeah, I think he knows that we know by now.Even if the mods on esix went about it some weird way, maybe they used a specific tool or something, I think they're ultimately still right about this one, too much lines up for it to be a coincidence at this point, especially with the guy deactivating his account. He's caught red handed, it's over for him.
>>4144004That's not saying much in this thread. I'd class most of the people here as bonafide furries, even if some may be loathe to admit it.
>>4144282The bad kind, I mean, that's what we were talking about there.
>>4144281>Oh yeah, I think he knows that we know by now.I think he knows that we know that he knows that he's fucked.
>>4144028Don't insult the Holy Roman Empire like that. It was definitively an empire, so that's 1/3 compared to that faggot's 0/3.
>>4144261hey now just because he's poorly pretended to be other people to defend himself 3 or 4 times does not mean he'll do it a 5th time.
This was a fun way to end the week, didn't expect him to pull a Dwyer like that.For his account, anyway. We can only hope he went all the way.
>>4144299nearly spit out my drink god damnit anon.
Oh man, I should've posted the "Ladies and gentlemen, we got him" image, fuck.Don't think that would've been good for an edit though.
>>4144226>>4144215I've seen decent ai generated "animation" before. This is just shit, even by AI standards.
>>4144299>>4144301>>4144307What matters is that the last bits of his reputation were crushed today, not what I was expecting when I saw that post mentioning his stuff got taken down for AI usage, I'd say it was a satisfying conclusion.
>>4144310it can definitely be "better" than that, but god damn that video is atrocious. The ai crowd really is pulling out all the stops to endear itself to the public with that one.>>4144311If you'd told me a year ago that any of this was going to happen. well you get the gist.
>>4144192Just ignore it, no one will notice.
>>4144315I don't know, I think it's worth the little extra effort to get accurate damage text.
>>4144311Yeah, I think so too.I do think it's a bit funny how he went though. He started yammering on about it being "targeted", because I guess that's all he knows, but when I revealed myself and revealed the fact that I had nothing to do with it, he just goes and deactivates himself.I'm almost sad I didn't get to actually do anything to him, after everything he did to me, but I'm very glad he was defeated nonetheless.Pour one out...!...for the poor bastard who's gonna have to clean him off the walls.
>>4144195Hell, if we found out what model he was using, we could still get the product without having to deal with him and his bullshit. Though knowing its AI would probably ruin the appeal.
>>4144314>If you'd told me a year ago that any of this was going to happen. well you get the gist.I would tell that person that he was an absolute schizo, the sole idea that a single person was behind so much bad shit and that on top of that he wasn't even a real artist is so insane.
>>4144319>Though knowing its AI would probably ruin the appeal.It does, at that point it just becomes slop that anyone can mass produce, hell, we could make that right now with any of the characters here if we wanted. There's nothing special about him fulfilling requests and posting his "art" here when it was all a lie.
>>4144319NTA, but honestly, I don't think the product's too worth it.It already looked completely soulless more than half the time, knowing that it literally is just makes it worse.
>>4144314>it can definitely be "better" than that, but god damn that video is atrocious. The ai crowd really is pulling out all the stops to endear itself to the public with that one.I've seen some stuff that I would actually consider good. Neural Viz's Unexplained Oddities is hilarious and its visuals are mostly devoid of the usual AI problems. I wonder if that video in the link even had AI generated writing.
>>4144315the problem is that i will notice every time i play my own game.but i have decided to ignore it for now because i really just dont have the patience for font hell at the moment, and when i do feel like tackling it i'd just need to swap out the font on the floating damage prefab.there are two big problems i'd have to figure out>what the font size is, exactly. and given the bullshit with DT mono (having to use 13.333 or 26.666) this could take entirely too much time>how to recreate the outline, since its not part of the font itself. (doing this is impossible until i get the font size down)
>>4144319>>4144321>>4144322At the end of the day, he was the most replaceable "artist" from this thread.
>>4144323>I wonder if that video in the link even had AI generated writing.probably since it just goes all over the fucking place for no real reason.I do have a confession to make though. I like sometimes when things use the early style generation "dreamlike" ai that just puts out some fever dream bullshit. "the archive inbetween" is a guilty pleasure because it feels like it's trying to intentionally make things look "wrong".Still not supporting slop "artists".
>>4144262I do hope there's more evidence than that. If that's all it took to say for certain then a lot of the actual artists in here would be on the chopping block.
>>4144325Oh, anyone could do it better, but I don't think it's a niche that needs filling, honestly.Making stuff of the fetish is fine, whatever, but no one should do it the way he did, put some actual soul into it. No one should be trying to replace him, people should try and be better than him, even if that's something of a low bar to cross.
>>4144326Nta, I think therecs something cool about early AI images, the ones that somewhat look real at a galnce but the closer you look the less sense it makes, like that infamous image that asks the viewer if he can name any object on the picture and its looks like a room full of garbage but none of the objects make any sense.
>>4144327I think the way he acted about it, and actual details from his work, are evidence enough.Hell, his first move was to yell about him being targeted, and people shut him up damn quickly when he overplayed his hand again.I think all his junk being AI would explain a few things, like why he could hardly ever "draw" his (forced) namesake from anything but the same one angle.The jig's up.
>>4144327Its more than just that, him not being able to answer what brushes he uses or never posting sketches was also sus, among other things, he's a known liar so you can't really give him the benefit of the doubt either. None of the other artists here fulfill those conditions.
>>4144330>like that infamous image that asks the viewer if he can name any object on the picture and its looks like a room full of garbage but none of the objects make any sense.that's a good example yeah. Just an absolute fever dream of nonsense and garbage. and it's still slop, but there was some entertainment value in those early generations.I though the images that were generated from some specific but arbitrary date in the future, that resulted in just images of bodies on the floor of some place or another were a good "laugh".honestly it's amazing how much "ai bros" fumbled the bag on PR.
>>4144261>Veracity of E6 jannies is called into question with a lazy comparison to 4chan's and specifically issues with what was happening to posts tagged "young"That was me. I didn't even say he wasn't using AI. I just want to see how they know, and cited that as a reason why.I think that probably was him saying he was targeted though. >>4144268>>4144267I've actually been busy all day. Only just got around to doing my daily check of the thread and saw all of this. Would be pretty funny if true, that he did all that shit over art he didn't even make.
>>4144299>DwyerWho's that?
>>4144336US politician who blew his brains out during a press conference on broadcast television.Just another guy who had the walls close in on him, more or less justifiably.
>>4144334>Would be pretty funny if true, that he did all that shit over art he didn't even make.some ai clowns get really possessive of their ai generations as if they had drawn it themselves, and it's possible that he only "half" generated it which would make it much harder to trace back to him since that wouldn't leave the meta data on the files.But yeah I didn't get the impression your post was suspicious amidst everything.>>4144338there's at least the CHANCE that Dwyer was innocent so he's still probably a better person.
>>4144338Can I get a qrd on what he did to fuck himself so badly?
>>4144340Okay, as the other anon points out, there is technically the finite chance the guy was actually innocent, but basically, he was facing federal prison for bribery and other financial crimes. He was a treasurer, you see.
>>4144326I think art made with AI can have merit, its just that the images, sounds, or text produced by AI by themselves aren't art. Its the compilation and editing of those components together that makes the art, the human effort. If its nothing but machine effort, then there's no merit at all.
>>4144331>>4144332Those are fair, its just the whole "no social media" thing that I think shouldn't be admissible as evidence. There's plenty of stronger evidence to damn him with.
>>4144342I'm a lot less eager to even give that level of generosity. Archive in between gets a semi pass from me because it's using the uncanny-ness of ai to intentionally cause an effect, but beyond that I can't name a single thing that uses it for anything other than shortcutting the creative process, taking pieces out of that human effort.
Hey, guys, I don't want to alarm anyone, but if the guy's still deactivated, how'd his upload limit capacity just now go from 8/8 to 7/8?Another one of his images getting dinged, or?
>>4144319>Though knowing its AI would probably ruin the appeal.the whole reason why AI slop has no value is because anyone can do it.nothing's stopping any of us from going to some random AI and proompting it with>sars bloody bastard preggo martlet with needfully low quality NOW!and for that reason there's no real reason to share it either since if other people wanted to see it, they'd just go proompt the AI themselves.
>>4144346Oh, the breastfeeding image is getting flagged, lol.
>>4144346probably mods still reviewing his bullshit since so much of his stuff went under their review.Another anon put it best, the jig is up for this guy. Even if he tried to come back under a different guise, he's fucked himself over, made himself too obvious, and all of his past fuck ups are backed up for future generations to mercilessly review long after the sun has died out.
>>4144347>and for that reason there's no real reason to share it either since if other people wanted to see it, they'd just go proompt the AI themselves.it's interesting how the prompters don't really get this. I saw someone the other day show an ai response reassuring them that prompting is a skill, in response to someone saying they should learn a real skill.
>>4144261to be fair, e6 jannies ARE fags and the young tag faggotry IS bad and hypocritical
>>4144356A broken cock still cums twice a day anon. Just this once, mods=gods.
>>4144357>that expressionthanks I hate it.
>>4144359You might hate it, and it may be crass, but it works.In fact, you could even say that a broken co-
>>4144356If I was "being fair" I'd be a lot less charitable about how frequently it's being stressed that AI slop is not so bad and that artists that can actually draw and won't get shit on absolutely as an imperative need to specifically make fetish pieces, in particular unbirthing for nobody in particular.
>>4144345>, but beyond that I can't name a single thing that uses it for anything other than shortcutting the creative process, taking pieces out of that human effort.Even if pieces of the human effort are taken out, it can still contain enough human effort to be art. Its only once most or all of the effort is replaced with a machine that it ceases to be art.Like, using Unanswered Oddities as an example again. Its visuals are AI, but it still took editing to stitch those visuals together, and it took work to at least get the AI to make something passable consistently, and the show revolves almost entirely around its writing, which is human made. So everything else just ends up being a joke delivery vehicle for the writing, and it works as that.
>>4144367if anything you're convincing me of the opposite. That series doesn't gain anything from being ai, so it just comes back to being a shortcut, and thus diminishing the "art" aspect. I'm out on that. This is just coming across as an excuse to put out sloppa.
>>4144369I don't think the series could exist without AI. He'd need an ILM style make up, puppet, and effects workshop to do something like that, and nothing like that show would be allowed that kind of funding. It is a shortcut, but taking shortcuts doesn't make something no longer art. Yes, had he somehow been able to do all of that with actual physical effects, it would've been more artistic, but its still art, even if its less that it could have been in theory.
>>4144370Taking shortcuts doesn't make something no longer art, but shortcutting the soul away does.Slop is slop.
>>4144370people have done more complicated things than any of those videos as amateurs with blender. It's just funky shaped beings talking like it's ancient aliens.it's slop.
>>4144372I could say the same thing about digital art. It has less soul than something that was drawn on a page. The world of animation lost something when it moves away from painting cels that it never got back. But its still art. I can say the same for CGI, it has a lot less soul than physical models do, but its still art, as are the movies made with it.I don't think something automatically becomes slop just because parts of it were made with AI.
>>4144374>I could say the same thing about digital art.You could not. Give it up already.
>>4144374There is a fundamental difference in the involvement in the creator between things like cgi and digital, compared to ai sloppa.
>>4144373Its not about complication, its about style and presentation. And even then, do you know how nightmarishly hard realistic 3d animation is? If you're a realistic 3d animator working solo, then that's all you are, you do not have time to be anything else. I think its perfectly reasonable to use the AI in a role its uniquely suited to (which is making weird inhuman blob monsters that look like 80s movie props) so you can have a vehicle to deliver your writing that only works in a visual medium.
>>4144374The problem with the drivel you're spewing is that making something with a digital drawing program, or with a 3d modelling software, still requires a certain amount of thought, effort, and skill to do properly.Typing a bunch of words into a machine, and having it do the work for you, requires no skill, and only barely requires a rudimentary grasp of the English language. It takes about as much "effort" as a google search.You're done.
>>4144379>it's hard, and therefore people should take shortcutsyou lack certain vital pieces of the human spirit.
>>4144376No, I genuinely do have the same feelings about digital art as I do about AI. Its to a much lesser extent, since there's still more human involvement there, but there is a profound lack of soul to it. Especially high fidelity digital art.And if you're going to tell me that modern DnD art or modern animation has just as much soul as their counterparts from before the digital take over, then I will fight you. Oil paintings look better than digital paintings, cel animation looks better than digital animation. Both have more soul.
>>4144379You don't do things because they're easy, you do them because they're hard.
>>4144382Take it to the dozens of AI shilling threads on /v/, people here can actually make stuff.
>>4144381Anon, you have accept a certain amount of shortcuts or the art can't exist at all. That's one of the fundamental things about making art. Its not that they should, its that sometimes to make the thing exist, they have to.I'm not saying that AI is inherently good, or that everything should use it as a replacement for human effort, or even that AI art has merit. I'm merely saying that things made with AI "art" as components can still be art. You can make art out of all sorts of non art things.
>>4144386>Anon, you have accept a certain amount of shortcuts or the art can't exist at all.Maybe your art, but I think we've established that a lot of people here are just fine with your art not existing.Just stop, Bucklemeario.It's over.
>>4144380I never said it didn't. I said it takes less effort and that it has less soul. That doesn't mean none. My whole point is that its possible for something to be less artistic than something else while still being art.You can still make high effort things using AI generated components. One component being AI doesn't automatically invalidate everything else.>you're doneWhat are you trying to imply?
>>4144382>No, I genuinely do have the same feelings about digital art as I do about AI.digital art is absolutely not equivalent to ai. It still requires a high degree of technique, and can perform its own soulful wonders with t he right development of technique.Digital compared to traditional does come with some costs, but it doesn't remove even an ounce of the human element.Ai on the other hand takes away from the actual process of creation. no longer are those lines made deliberately from the artist. you've offloaded the actual art part of the art.people calling ai "just a tool like any other" are making misleading statements, intentionally or not. the other tools do not remove you from vital parts of the process. They change the rules but keep you the artist engaged the entire way through.
>>4144388>What are you trying to imply?I'm "implying" that you should shut the fuck up, and get the fuck out. We have no room for your shit, and we aren't about to make any for you.
>>4144387Wait, do you think I'm the unbirthing faggot? Because I'm not. I just don't like people here claiming that a well written series isn't art just because components of it aren't art.
>>4144392You're hardly making a good case for yourself.Based on how you're talking, you're either one of his sockpuppets, or you're someone else in particular. Wouldn't be the first time you chose his hill to die on, if so.
>>4144392it's made actively worse by the parts that were shortcutted, reducing it's value to near nil.
>>4144385I actively make stuff here. I don't even like the idea of using AI in my work, but I think people who do can still have merit to their work despite that. Using an AI generated image as a texture in a game, for example, doesn't make the game cease to be art.>>4144384I can't speak for you, but I do things because I want them to exist and want to express myself. I don't see much difference at all between using AI assets and using stock assets. Either way, the focus of what you're doing isn't the assets, those are just a means to getting you to whatever the point of the work actually is. In the case of the example provided earlier, its the writing.
>>4144394I'm not on his fucking hill. I haven't even defended him once. I never said him using AI was alright or that his art had merit. I never even claimed he wasn't using it or that you were wrong for thinking he was.>>4144396I've done literally nothing wrong here.
>>4144397>I actively make stuff here. I don't even like the idea of using AI in my work, but I think people who do can still have merit to their work despite that. Using an AI generated image as a texture in a game, for example, doesn't make the game cease to be art.NTA but what about someone who draws something and then has AI finish the image for him?>I can't speak for you, but I do things because I want them to exist and want to express myself. I don't see much difference at all between using AI assets and using stock assets. Either way, the focus of what you're doing isn't the assets, those are just a means to getting you to whatever the point of the work actually is. In the case of the example provided earlier, its the writing.NTA as well, but the visuals you put in front of someone is very much a part of the art, it's not just the writing.And there's very much so a difference between that one example that gets thrown around all the time of the dev for my summer car 2 using ai to make nonsense paintings in the background, and someone generating character models, removing themselves from the process.
>>4144398You are a god damned disappointment.
>>4144391I'm not that faggot. I haven't even defended him once. I haven't even said anything that unreasonable. I say "That was shit, but I have seen some decent stuff that used AI to make parts of it" and I'm apparently that one faggot now, and nothing I say or do can prove contrary, because you decided without any input from me that I was defending him.
>>4144398>I'm not on his fucking hill. I haven't even defended him once. I never said him using AI was alright or that his art had merit. I never even claimed he wasn't using it or that you were wrong for thinking he was.Then what are you saying?Everything good about what anons have made in these threads has been handmade.You could say that some dev could use ai to replace his poorly drawn assets with something "better" but that wouldn't make the experience better in any way, would take something of the devs touch out of the game thus weakening it.
>>4144399>NTA but what about someone who draws something and then has AI finish the image for him?It was art before, but not after. Because AI image editing doesn't actually edit, it destroys and recreates a similar reproduction of it. Therefore it may as well be an AI generated image, not art.>NTA as well, but the visuals you put in front of someone is very much a part of the art, it's not just the writing.But it still has some artistic merit in the form of the writing.
>>4144401Maybe you're not him, but it's your line of thinking that leads to fuckups like him that can't actually make anything for themselves. Like erectile dysfunction for your fucking soul. What's left of it.
>>4144401>"That was shit, but I have seen some decent stuff that used AI to make parts of it"NTA, I "conceptually" get what you're saying but the shortcutting actively makes things worse, and you're adding this in at the tail end of talking about a local artist using ai to trick everyone.>>4144403>But it still has some artistic merit in the form of the writing.and that merit is being drained because of the ai. If it was you that said it allows us to get it at all, then honestly I'd rather just get made with still images the person drew to convey the story. the half assed models for the "ancient aliens" thing was not high end blender stuff, but if the person couldn't do that, then I'd rather them go a different route than to plague their own work with ai sloppa.
>>4135591I guess the dude begging for Dina unbirthing art couldn’t have been the unbirthingfag since he never drew Dina after all this timeAlso, if the unbirthingfag wasn’t underaged when he joined e6 and at least 18, he’d be around 28 now. How can one act like this at that age
>>4144402I was saying that I've seen works be good and artistic before, despite making heavy use of AI assets. I'm not saying that people should do that, or that its better, just that it can be good and be art, despite being made in a less than ideal way.Giving credence where its due is not the same as saying its better than something else, or that people should do it instead.
>>4144406>Also, if the unbirthingfag wasn’t underaged when he joined e6 and at least 18, he’d be around 28 now. How can one act like this at that ageJesus. Never even thought about that.Good lord.
>>4144400What did I do? What should I have done?
>>4144404Anon, I'm not saying that people shouldn't make art. I'm not saying that AI art is just as good or better than real art. I think real art is better than AI and preferable in almost every case. I just think this hardline stance is too harsh and there should be room for nuance. Sometimes something made with AI can be good. It take a hell of a lot of caveats, and 99.999% AI stuff is slop, but its important to recognize that the exception does exist.
>>4144407>I was saying that I've seen works be good and artistic before, despite making heavy use of AI assets. I'm not saying that people should do that, or that its better, just that it can be good and be art, despite being made in a less than ideal way.and I think it's only art "despite" the ai that was invovled, if it manages to be art at all.Look, like I said, I conceptually get what you're saying, but where I think you're dead wrong is the negative impact the work has on the actual art itself. every element that was made with ai itself stops being art, or at the very least loses the vast majority of any value it could have had, and it encourages more people to take such shortcuts, instead of getting all the people we've had over the years that "huh, I want to make some crazy ass animation" and they pick up and start learning blender. it's the mind killer, the art killer. It's like saying a cup is still filled with water despite all of the things being added to that water that make it not good for you like water is.
>>4144409Could've had some actual fucking integrity, for one. Fucking sick of your shit, Oldentale anon.You're a let down.
>>4144405>get what you're saying but the shortcutting actively makes things worse,Yeah, it does, but sometimes its necessary. >and you're adding this in at the tail end of talking about a local artist using ai to trick everyone.I posted it in response to that twitter video. Other people were the ones connecting it to that faggot "draw"anon.>and that merit is being drained because of the ai.How? Its not like it removes the writing.>If it was you that said it allows us to get it at all, then honestly I'd rather just get made with still images the person drew to convey the story. I wouldn't rather that. That show wouldn't have worked with amateurish drawings, the jokes wouldn't have landed the same as they did with the weird Ai goblins. >as not high end blender stuffIt would've been to get it to look like that. That would've taken high poly counts and a lot of surface related effects to get the flesh right, and then he would've had to model the backgrounds and make textures to make everything look realistic enough to convey the joke.
>>4144412No, what did I do wrong? Where did I defend him? If its not "'defending him" that you're mad about, then tell me what I did do and point to it.
>>4144411>and I think it's only art "despite" the ai that was invovledThat's all I've ever been arguing.>nd it encourages more people to take such shortcutsI think there is a responsible and skillfull way to take those shortcuts without just turning your work into slop, and I think that show was an example of it. It used the inherent flaws of AI to make a gag. The stilted movements are part of the gag, the bad voices are part of the gag, the way the characters all look like weird 80s movie puppets but not quite right is part of the gag. And all of it is playing off known problems that AI "art" has as a joke. Even the show itself is about a world that's been taken over and remade by a rogue AI, so it being AI generated is a joke in the plot too.>it's the mind killer, the art killerI don't think it has to be.
>>4144414You insult the creative process. You insult the thing that makes things worth doing at all.If you have something to say, but you can't get it out without covering it in shit, you don't have anything of substance anymore. You're not the kind of person who could ever say anything worth listening to.Any percent of poison in your food is 100% poison, it isn't safe to eat because "oh, only this bit of the cake was made with anthrax, the rest of it's fine!".It's shit like this that lets people's brains become so fucking atrophied that they can't be bothered to do any actual thinking for themselves, the kind of people who say that human creativity can be "replaced", kind of person who thinks what got spewed out of a fucking computer like a damn google search counts as their own work.I'm not mad about you defending him, not this time, I'm fucking disappointed to find out that this is what does on behind your eyes. Just another aspect of how you think, and it's as much garbage as all the other times.I admired your work, your spirit. But it looks like appearances are deceiving, huh? Running theme lately.I don't know what the hell I ever saw in you, but that's gone now. If it was ever there. You're a fucking let down.
>>4144412Seriously, I'm not defending him. I haven't done it once in this thread. I never once said his use of AI in his art was justified. Neither did I deny that he was using AI in his art.
>>4144409look man, you're extolling the potential virtues of ai after we just had a major "artists" come through and play us the fool, and I'm pretty sure he was using your posts as a smokescreen to defend himself during this conversation too since I know not every post was you.>>4144413>Yeah, it does, but sometimes its necessary. Necessary to what though? To making it happen?What if without the ai, the person was forced to learn a skill, and thus delivered something much more true, much more real to the human spirit? What if what t hey would have made otherwise would have been uglier, and yet still better? >I posted it in response to that twitter video. Other people were the ones connecting it to that faggot "draw"anon.Anon the whole conversation has been due to his shit. since most of today.>How? Its not like it removes the writing.it poisons the delivery method. The visuals are a part of the delivery method, and undertale is the perfect example of an ugly but handmade delivery method working wonders for the writing. That's the thing anon, yeah the "art" was made but the food has been poisoned. the whole experience is made worse because the thing the ai was used to make is still a part of that total sum experience. that's the issue right there. If the writing was completely divorced from every other element, then it could have been delivered as a written story, but since it's a video, we take it with the "inflections" that this ai comes up with, the gestures, the visuals.
>>4144413>>4144419>I wouldn't rather that. That show wouldn't have worked with amateurish drawings, the jokes wouldn't have landed the same as they did with the weird Ai goblins. but it's still infinitely worse than if someone had taken the effort to learn some amount of modeling and tried to do it for themselves. it could still have that charm since the low skill is going to lead to some uncannyness. it produces someone, makes someone who can actually make something rather than a generator for pigslop.>It would've been to get it to look like that. That would've taken high poly counts and a lot of surface related effects to get the flesh right, and then he would've had to model the backgrounds and make textures to make everything look realistic enough to convey the joke.could have just masked it over some with effects, since after all if you look at those features, they have a lot of low quality ai artifacts that just make it feel janky rather than as any special thing. I GET what you're saying, but it's just going to make everything worse.
>>4144416>That's all I've ever been arguing.and I'm saying that the real art being paired with the slop diminishes the real art that's involved by virtue of being with the slop, while you were saying it's not at all. >I don't think it has to be.it is because instead of going on the journey to learn how to make all the things you described in the paragraph above, they made a machine auto do it for them. People have been making uncanny stuff for a long time, ai didn't invent that, but now it's made people who are making it while not knowing "how" to make it.
>>4144417>If you have something to say, but you can't get it out without covering it in shit, you don't have anything of substance anymore. You're not the kind of person who could ever say anything worth listening to.There absolutely can be truth hidden in a load of bullshit, just like a habitual liar can tell the truth on occasion, and a broken clock can be right. I'm not going to automatically throw out anything Ai touches just because Ai touched it.>Any percent of poison in your food is 100% poison, No its not. There's a safe dosage of basically every poison. And anthrax, notably, isn't a poison, its a bacteria. With things like cyanide and arsenic, you can eat some small dose and be fine. >It's shit like this that lets people's brains become so fucking atrophied that they can't be bothered to do any actual thinking for themselves, the kind of people who say that human creativity can be "replaced", kind of person who thinks what got spewed out of a fucking computer like a damn google search counts as their own work.I never said any of that. I don't think it can be replaced or that it should be. I'm just not going to throw out something good because somebody used AI to fill the space around it.Please, anon, I am asking you to just calm down and think this through with a level head. You've told me time and time again that I get too aggressive and combative in arguments, so I've tried my best to stop and to consider the other person. I'm asking you to please stop and consider what I'm actually saying, instead of dismissing it out of hand and responding with hostility.
just fyi, a good way to find DRY art is to search around for kanacole, specifically with that as a keyword
>>4144419>, you're extolling the potential virtues of ai after we just had a major "artists" come through and play us the fool,So am I just supposed to shut up and hold my tongue whenever I disagree with other people on something if its tangentially related to him? >Necessary to what though? In the case of the show, the jokes. The a lot of the gags are written around the weird eccentricities of AI generated video and how botched it is.A lot of the time I think that it being made with AI is worse than not being made at all, but that doesn't mean that sometimes things made with AI can't be good that way.>What if without the ai, the person was forced to learn a skill, What if they didn't? What if they never bothered at all because it would've required too much skill, time, and money to get off the ground? I want to believe in the ideal of the human spirit and raw human effort, but it doesn't always pan out that way.>it poisons the delivery methodI think that it doesn't necessarily poison it. I think some of the AI artifacts aided the jokes in the series. And when it does poison it, I don't think the poison is fatal.>it could still have that charm since the low skill is going to lead to some uncannynessIt would've been a very different thing>makes someone who can actually make something rather than a generator for pigslop.He can still produce something. He edited and wrote the videos. He's got directorial skill. In an ideal world he would have the money and a team to make it for real.>look man, you're extolling the potential virtues of ai after we just had a major "artists" come through and play us the fool, and I'm pretty sure he was using your posts as a smokescreen to defend himself during this conversation too since I know not every post was you.I wasn't even in here when he was talking about being targeted.
>>4144426i found these threads by searching kanacole on 4chan archives
>>4144425>There absolutely can be truth hidden in a load of bullshit, just like a habitual liar can tell the truth on occasion, and a broken clock can be right. I'm not going to automatically throw out anything Ai touches just because Ai touched it.It being surrounded by shit makes it compromised. It infects it.Having an idea you want executed isn't worth anything, an idea is nothing without execution, and if your execution involves covering it in shit and not putting the fucking effort in, your idea is shit now too. It doesn't matter what your "vision" is, if you're building it out of shit.>No its not. There's a safe dosage of basically every poison.I give you some candy and tell you one of the pieces is coated in cyanide, you're gonna eat them all like it doesn't matter?Or are you gonna treat them like they're all coated?Common fucking sense.>And anthrax, notably, isn't a poison, its a bacteria.I don't give a fuck.>I'm just not going to throw out something good because somebody used AI to fill the space around it.If they couldn't find a way to execute their idea without stooping to that level, there's nothing good to throw out to start with, it's all contaminated.>You've told me time and time again that I get too aggressive and combative in argumentsYeah? Maybe I'm getting fucking aggressive because you were calling digital art and CG soulless on the same level as churned out bullshit from something that can't even think. How about that? Yeah, the thought I, or anyone else here puts into their works, it's on the same level as the fucking Cro-Magnon that has to have a supercomputer realize his vision for him and call it his own.Before you've insulted me, you've insulted what I do, but now, you've insulted something fundamental to the reason why we're all here doing this shit to begin with, and I'm not fucking having that.I see what you're saying, and I see what you're thinking, and I'm fucking disappointed in what I see.
>>4144424>while you were saying it's not at all.I'm saying that its not necessarily, and that if it is, it may not be a dealbreaker.>it is because instead of going on the journey to learn how to make all the things you described in the paragraph aboveYou can't do everything. Sure, you can do a lot of things. But there's still things you can't do, and a limit to the number of things you can do. The appeal here, the weird surreal jokes with the strange classic movie looking puppet/rubber mask characters, simply wouldn't happen without massive funding, which he doesn't have, and if it were substituted for something else like CGI, it still may not have happened, and if it did it would've been a different beast altogether.I just think people are being too extreme on AI, they don't allow for a single shred of nuance, and I don't think that's a good thing.
>>4144427>So am I just supposed to shut up and hold my tongue whenever I disagree with other people on something if its tangentially related to him?no, but anything you say that is this closely linked is going to inextricably be linked to the topic at hand. It's just how things work.it's going to cause anything you say to be viewed through the lens of context. Simply naturally.>What if they didn't? What if they never bothered at all because it would've required too much skill, time, and money to get off the ground? I want to believe in the ideal of the human spirit and raw human effort, but it doesn't always pan out that way.then let me ask you this.99.99 percent of ai is slop as you said. that .01 percent of non slop, does it outweight the number of people that gave up because of ai demoralization or that didn't put in the effort because they needed to?Perhaps there are some people whowouldn't have either way, but is .01 "good" ai creations worth the 99.99 of garbage or the potential lost creatives?what I see is degredation. People learning to not learn, learning to give up before they even start. we're creativing the people from wall-e.>It would've been a very different thingpossibly, but people have been making uncanny stuff as long as either of us have been alive. It could have been much better.or it could have paved the way for that artist to make something much better. >He can still produce something. He edited and wrote the videos. He's got directorial skill. In an ideal world he would have the money and a team to make it for real.if he had what it took to work with other people then why did he sloppa it out in the first place? The slop is a shortcut that also disincentivizes the people around you to get involved with you because again, 99.99 percent is slop so why would they want your involvement?
>>4144429>Having an idea you want executed isn't worth anything, an idea is nothing without execution, and if your execution involves covering it in shit and not putting the fucking effort inBut its not just an idea. He did put effort in. He wrote and edited the series, and even however small the effort in doing so may be, getting the AI to produce decent results in the same style consistently takes effort. I'm not saying that prompting is akin to being an artist.. Or that its the same as drawing or writing or sculpting. Just that if a writer who isn't any of those other things, and who can't get someone in one of those other categories to do what he needs done, ends up using AI to fill those spaces so he can showcase his writing, I don't think that automatically ruins the writiing all of the time no exceptions.>I give you some candy and tell you one of the pieces is coated in cyanide, you're gonna eat them all like it doesn't matter?Almonds contain cyanide, I still eat them, and I don't do so with and trepidation, because I know I'm not going to kill myself because its a safe dosage.>you were calling digital art and CG soulless on the same level as churned out bullshit from something that can't even think. I didn't. I said it had less soul than physically drawn art. The argument was that less effort doesn't automatically mean no effort.You chose to take that as a statement that it was the exact same. Which I think you should've seen obvious reasons I wouldn't think that, considering I also draw digital art, and spent an entire thread the other day posting about how AI art isn't real art.Please anon, see some nuance here.You keep not seeing what I'm saying because its not one of two extremes.
>>4144430>I'm saying that its not necessarily, and that if it is, it may not be a dealbreaker.and I'm saying that even if it doesn't make it a deal breaker (I even admitted that one guilty pleasure), it does detract because ultimately, it's a multimedium work (audio-visual storytelling), so there is no 100 percent separating the elements. Even undertale as ugly as it is, has visuals just good enough to compliment those other aspects, but the visuals do matter, they are impactful. >The appeal here, the weird surreal jokes with the strange classic movie looking puppet/rubber mask characters, simply wouldn't happen without massive funding, which he doesn't have, and if it were substituted for something else like CGI, it still may not have happened, and if it did it would've been a different beast altogether.alternatively it could be attempted on a budget as many low budget indie efforts are done, and meet success with. Limitations breed creativity. By just accepting slop in one category, you have shut down the engines on that entire segment. you say it would be different but it very much could have been different better, or different good but more soulful. as it stands, it's just an idle curiosity of little value.>I just think people are being too extreme on AI, they don't allow for a single shred of nuance, and I don't think that's a good thing.I think ai can be used for non creative things just fine. it's a fantastic search engine (since search engines are crippled) but as soon as something creative is handed to it, that creativity gets wounded and lessened. It gets hit by the anti soul gun. And you can say "ai is just like digital art" but there is a fundamental difference in how ai takes the reigns from creators, compared to how digital art just changes the modus of engagement.
>>4144431>it's going to cause anything you say to be viewed through the lens of context. Simply naturally.That didn't answer my question. It seems to me like you want me to just shut up on any subject like that if my positions ever dissent with yours. Or at least that seems to be the stance of the threads.>es it outweight the number of people that gave up because of ai demoralizationNo, but those people shouldn't get demoralized over AI or give up because of it. They should create because they want to, not just because its something exclusive that makes them better than other people. The whole point of creative expression is the expression, not the exclusivity of the skills.>that didn't put in the effort because they needed to?It seems a moot point to argue because mindlessly raging against any and all AI related things isn't going to make them go away. People who would rather gen than pick up a pencil are going to do that anyways. So I think its better to accept what good does come of it than to simply throw it away and say its no better than the worst dregs of AI slop, because that will only teach them that they may as well be that bad.>what I see is degredation. People learning to not learn, learning to give up before they even start. But tearing down the few good things that get made with AI isn't going to fix that. Building up people and encouraging them to try is going to help. Coercion will only push them further into the slop camp. That's why so many people hate artists to begin with, it was the culture of exclusivity and using that to brow beat other people.>it could have paved the way for that artist to make something much better. He still can. Nothing's stopping him.>why did he sloppa it out in the first place? Lack of money most likely, the kinds of things he needed done cost a lot of money.(1/2)
>>4144431>>4144434(2/2(>The slop is a shortcut that also disincentivizes the people around you to get involved with you because again, 99.99 percent is slop so why would they want your involvement?You may have a point there. But I still don't think the extreme reaction that allows for not a single exception feels wrong here. I've seen good art made with the help of AI, and I can tell by looking at it that it had effort put into it. But I say that and people deride me and call me evil and a disappointment for it.
>>4144432>Just that if a writer who isn't any of those other things, and who can't get someone in one of those other categories to do what he needs done, ends up using AI to fill those spaces so he can showcase his writing, I don't think that automatically ruins the writiing all of the time no exceptions.The soul goes down with the ship. Maybe the writing's just fine on it's own, but it's not on its own, it's tied together with the shit it's covered in. Doesn't matter how fucking good it is, it doesn't exist in a vacuum. >Almonds contain cyanideNot what I mean and you know it, jackass.>I didn't. I said it had less soul than physically drawn art. The argument was that less effort doesn't automatically mean no effort.That's a false comparison. A masterpiece done in Adobe or something doesn't automatically have "less effort" put into it than *anything* physical. Your generalizing and saying that one form is inherently less artistically valuable than the other and not accounting for individual instances.>considering I also draw digital artThat you've shit on before yourself, so why exactly should I take that as you seeing value in it? Nothing stopping you from calling it soulless too.>spent an entire thread the other day posting about how AI art isn't real art.Only to change sides here.>Please anon, see some nuance here.You keep not seeing what I'm saying because its not one of two extremes.You have a lot of fucking nerve saying that to me.
>>4144434>>4144435>It seems to me like you want me to just shut up on any subject like that if my positions ever dissent with yours. Or at least that seems to be the stance of the threads.>But I say that and people deride me and call me evil and a disappointment for it.Knock that the fuck off. "The Threads" aren't turning against you, "the people" aren't deriding you, I am. I'm after you because you have consistently proven yourself to be capable of nothing but the wrong thing time and time again, standing for nothing except the worst thing you can, each and every time, and I'm well past sick of it.Every single time, you consistently find the worst possible stance on something, so you can give your all to fight for it, no matter what that ends up being, or who you end up insulting with the awful shit you say.And then you have the gall to act like you're being persecuted, as if you don't know damn well why I'm upset with you. But what else is new?Fuck you.
>>4144433>it does detract because ultimately,And I agree, but I also think it adds in certain areas, and I think that it likely wouldn't have existed at all without the usage of AI assets. I view it as an understandable compromise that was made to make this series exist. I don't even think that it would universally be that way in all art, just that it is possible, just this one time, that it was alright. Most things can't make this kind of compromise and still function, but sometimes rarely one can.>Limitations breed creativity. They do, and I think you're refusing to see the creativity here because you reject AI involvement out of hand. There's a lot of working around limitations. This series has its visual style specifically because of the limitations of AI at the time, and the creator deciding to make a gag out of them.>you have shut down the engines on that entire segment. I think its the same principle as using premade assets in something like a machinima (not the exact same, just the same principle). You're taking a shortcut and cutting out extra work because that part isn't what you want to work on in the first place.>I think ai can be used for non creative things just fine. iWhat about for game development? A lot of writers or musicians out there can't find programming help or can't find it in a good enough state, and programming isn't something you can just expect anyone to pick up and learn.> "ai is just like digital art" bI never said that. I said it takes less effort than physical art did, and that the lower effort makes it have less soul than physical art would, without making it completely lack soul. I don't even think that digital art has inherently less soul, I think pixel art can have more soul, since its playing to the strengths of the medium.
>>4144434>That didn't answer my question. It seems to me like you want me to just shut up on any subject like that if my positions ever dissent with yours. Or at least that seems to be the stance of the threads.no, that's what you're hearing because it's what you've been concerned about lately. reconsider what I said without that assumption if you will.>No, but those people shouldn't get demoralized over AI or give up because of it. but they do, and they will, not because they are weak, but because trying something new involves a certain amount of vulnerability. Assuming who you are, we had a talk about just that, the other day in which you agreed with that much. >They should create because they want to, not just because its something exclusive that makes them better than other people. The whole point of creative expression is the expression, not the exclusivity of the skills.yes, lofty ideals ARE good, but you have to get to that point from a few places of vulnerability and uncertainty. A LOT of creativity is driven by need, which helps the creator discover new things about themselves, about what they like making and how they like making it. "directing" a youtube video is a good example of this. you have to wear many hats to do that in the first place by the nature of what it is. this is true for film directing, youtube directing, and hell, directing home movies as a dumb kid. There's a lot that has always gone into that, and cutting part of the process out kills part of the soul, and removes one of the possible avenues of personal growth.We don't all start off just burning with the energy of creation. we get there and learn that passion in several ways, often by getting a taste of it before the full deal.
>>4144434>>4144443>It seems a moot point to argue because mindlessly raging against any and all AI related things isn't going to make them go awaythat's irrelevant to what I said. pushing people to make things without ai is good regardless of if ai isn't going away. If ai demoralizers are out in full force, then the artists of today should be the counter weight to that.>People who would rather gen than pick up a pencil are going to do that anywayPeople who gen something, and get told that they should pick up a pencil instead after they show off their gen art, have a chance of turning and shifting and attempting that. It is important to instead extol the virtues of creation rather than to simplify it and dumb it down, or to mete out "acceptable" like this because it's not going away. On a technical level, you are right, you CAN create something good with ai, "can", but it's at a cost, a cost that should not be given into so easily just because the alternative was "my vision not being made right this moment the way I thought it might be.">So I think its better to accept what good does come of it than to simply throw it away and say its no better than the worst dregs of AI slop, because that will only teach them that they may as well be that bad.or you can take a stronger stance, pushing and encouraging every person that got into generation, to make something of their own without the ai. I've seen it happen, seen people generate something, get called out, and then try it again, but with real tools. this permissibility is the mind killer for the reasons I keep saying.
>>4144440Anon I didn't even insult anyone this time. I didn't even take a strong stance against what everyone else was saying. I offered a milquetoast acknowledgement of an exception to an otherwise extremely common trend, and then you and a few other people (unless that was you replying to the same post multiple times) jumped down my throat about it, accused me of being someone else, and then put words in my mouth so you crucify me for them. This is not "the worst possible stance". This is nowhere near that. You've seen what the worst possible stance on AI is, its people telling others to throw down the pencil and never pick up because AI has replaced them. That's something I have not, and will not say, and something I have actively opposed multiple times.
>>4144446>Anon I didn't even insult anyone this time.You lack the capacity to even understand why what you're saying is insulting.
>>4144443>>4144445>>4144434>He still can. Nothing's stopping him.the expression is "necessity is the mother of invention" for a reason. Do not blind yourself to this, it's true of all human history, and it doesn't stop being true just because someone could generate some sloppa to ease up part of his work.>Lack of money most likely, the kinds of things he needed done cost a lot of money.many projects like these get made with little money in the first place. You're thinking of things being done in an exact precise way that costs money. rather than looking at it like a director who needs to accomplish the same effects at a lower cost.your way of thinking, is how movie budgets balloon out of control, because they get into this mindset of "to achieve the effect I want, I have to spend x money" instead of "how do I make this happen."it's an age old question, it's part of why you get a lot of REALLY creative stuff out of horror movies despite horror movies almost universally having a tenth, if not 1/30th the budget of other kinds of productions. or how indie horror has been springing up more and more off shoestring budget. It costs that much because you're thinking of some ways to do it instead of how a director should be thinking. And I know you're not a director, but that's how this person should be thinking, rather than just doing ai which can hardly do "good enough" on a good day.>You may have a point there. But I still don't think the extreme reaction that allows for not a single exception feelsI didn't call you evil, and one person who you have a rocky history with is calling you a disappointment because your position lacks an artists integrity and you come across a person who's very principled except suddenly when it comes to taking shortcuts with ai? I think I'm laying out the staggering downsides here.I comprehend where you're coming from, but your position is neglectful. the existence of .01 percent exceptions does not a rule make.
>>4144436>A masterpiece done in Adobe or something doesn't automatically have "less effort" put into it than *anything* physical.But it does have less effort, much less, than a similarly detailed painting done on a real canvas.>Your generalizing and saying that one form is inherently less artistically valuable than the other and not accounting for individual instances.And that's what you're doing about anything that includes any single component of Ai generated material, no matter how small. >That you've shit on before yourself, so why exactly should I take that as you seeing value in it? Because I draw it and care a lot about it and how people see it.>Only to change sides here.Which I haven't done. I say "don't throw the baby out with the bath water" when talking about good things that happen to include some AI component and you tell me I said something completely different and attack me for it>You have a lot of fucking nerve saying that to me.Anon, accepting that, you of all people should be able to stop for a moment and see that I'm just trying say there's nuance here.
>>4144447I never said that digital art is the same as AI art. You're putting words in my mouth here then claiming I insulted you.
>>4144450>But it does have less effort, much less, than a similarly detailed painting done on a real canvas.Dude I'm going to be completely real with you, if you think this, genuinely, you do not know digital and traditional art well enough for your opinion to mean anything.
>>4144451>I never said that digital art is the same as AI art.>>4144374what you said was "you could say the same thing about digital art" when the statement was "shortcutting the soul away does" and that "does" is "make something no longer art."if that post was you, you (possibly inadvertently without thinking your statement through) said digital art is no longer art.
>>4144450>But it does have less effort, much less, than a similarly detailed painting done on a real canvas.But not all art is created equal, is it?One of JayAxer's works inherently less valuable than a stickman I drew on a napkin?And how about things you can do digitally that *can't* be done physically? Anything digital is inherently less valuable, no matter what?And what exactly are these people doing with AI that can't be done otherwise? What makes it art?>And that's what you're doing about anything that includes any single component of Ai generated material, no matter how small. A chain breaks at its weakest link.A single bad part drags everything down. >Because I draw it and care a lot about it and how people see it.Hasn't stopped you from degrading the shit out of it before.>I say "don't throw the baby out with the bath water" when talking about good things that happen to include some AI componentThere is no baby to throw out, that's what I'm telling you. Doesn't matter what percentage of the food you're eating is sawdust, if it's greater than 0%, it's bad.>Anon, accepting that, you of all people should be able to stop for a moment and see that I'm just trying say there's nuance here.You're saying there's nuance, where there isn't any, and before, you say there's no nuance, where there is.
>>4144451That other anon pointed out the post I was talking about.If that was you, and you can't see why that's insulting, then I don't see what's left to talk about if you're just doing the same shit you always do.
>>4144453>what you said was "you could say the same thing about digital art"My point was that its a reductive argument. I could say the same thing and I would be just as wrong as the person I was replying to, for much the same reason.>) said digital art is no longer art.Anon, the rest of the post contradicts that assertion
>>4144456>Anon, the rest of the post contradicts that assertionthe rest of your post is a mess because of the first part.you did not come through clearly, because digital art with some of the complexities it can involve, is more complex by miles than you're giving it credit, which just makes it sound like you are being reductive but without a point.I am describing to you how you actually came across.
>>4144455I was pointing out that it was a reductive argument he was making. Saying that I could make the same argument about digital if I wanted to be reductive, therefore, unless you want to say digital isn't art, that anything that includes AI isn't automatically "not art".I was arguing specifically that its wrong to say something isn't art just because it requires less effort than another form of art, or that it has less innate soul than another form off art.
>>4144457>, because digital art with some of the complexities it can involve, is more complex by miles than you're giving it credit,And art that includes some Ai components can be more complex by miles than he was giving it credit for.The point was to illustrate how bad his logic was when applied to something we all accept to be a good thing.
>>4144458>I was arguing specifically that its wrong to say something isn't art just because it requires less effort than another form of art, or that it has less innate soul than another form off art.Something you yourself then went on to argue directly at me.
>>4144457>>4144456and to add, that whole thing about anons being there to work with you if you gave it the chance to try? that's what this is. I haven't even been dismissing your points in this argument outright. I've been engaging with your points even though I vehemently disagree with much of what you're saying. But anon sometimes you do not do a good job of communicating things and say some dismissive stuff like how it makes it sound like ai art is about on the same level of soul as digital art.>>4144458nta, but the problem is most people see art as an expression of human creation, and offloading a significant portion of that creation to something that is not human, de-arts that part, and drags down the rest of the ship as the other anon said. This is aside from all the points I've made about the negative effects of relying ai on the human spirit. these are tangible, observable things despite dealing with something like "spirit".>>4144459the problem is the logic isn't bad because digital takes leagues more effort than ai, mountains more to an incomprehensible level. They exist in such different classes that even if it is less, it is not comparably less.Look anon, I know you're worried about everyone turning against you, and I know there's one person who has not great feelings with you, but I'm talking in good faith here. even if you don't agree with some of my points, I'm not being pedantic here.
>>4144452If its not easier then what's the reason the vast majority of all professional artists switched to digital? How do layers and saves and undo buttons not make it significantly easier than physical, which doesn't have those things?
>>4144459>And art that includes some Ai components can be more complex by miles than he was giving it credit for.Nothing made with AI cannot be made otherwise. Nothing is made better *because* of AI usage, it exists in spite of it.The same cannot be said for traditional and physical art, which you went on to argue about.
>>4144462it is more -convenient-, not easier, as it presents its own challenges and skills to learn.it is more convenient because we are already in front of a screen all day and sharing an image you made digitally is ever so much quicker.traditional art has much to learn too, many techniques that benefit from the tactile nature of things more. Many of the skills are transferrable, but not 100 percent as the way you accomplish one thing in one art is different in another.
>>4144462>If its not easier then what's the reason the vast majority of all professional artists switched to digital?Because the average client in 2026 wants/needs digital assets not specifically a canvas painting.
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>>4144467oh fuck it's spookyoween I forgot.
>>4144443>no, that's what you're hearing because it's what you've been concerned about latelyClearly I'm right to be concerned about, judging by what's just happened. Stop and think about what the implications of what you said are for me, what you are telling me to do there. >but because trying something new involves a certain amount of vulnerabilityBut how does the mere existence of AI attack that vulnerability? >A LOT of creativity is driven by needBut you can't just coerce people into having that need. Once the need is gone, its gone. Its like learning to tie knots, or complex mental math, or horse riding. The need evaporates because of a change in material conditions. No amount of shaming is going to bring the need back.>pushing people to make things without ai is good regardless of if ai isn't going away.But pushing them with coercion and force isn't. Its not going to entice them, just push them away.>'ve seen it happen, seen people generate something, get called out, and then try it again, but with real tools. And we also have an entire swathe of the population who militantly despises art as a craft because of stuff like this. Coercing and insulting people, attempting to force them, may convince some, but most will dig their heels in or start swinging back at you. While others simply get driven off entirely.And this is of course ignoring that something good with artistic merit could come out of Ai that wouldn't before, You're casting that out in the name of ostensibly attempting to force people into your specific kind of art through what sounds worryingly like manipulation to me.>the expression is "necessity is the mother of invention" for a reasoAnd necessity caused a great many inventions here. The work is built around the peculiarities of AI image generation at the time. That's where a lot of the gags come from, intentionally leaning into the weird midjourney look.(1/?)
>>4144467To be totally honest, I kind of wish I saved Geltarune or something to play today.Maybe I'll draw something.
and as usual with font hell, i cant tear myself away from it.i fucked around with the other fonts i already had in, didnt like the sizes any of them ended up at.i figured out the font size (14, somehow i missed that)so now the problem of outlines.unity's built in outline components werent made for monospace fonts, so those just fail outright. and even if they did work it'd be round.im not sure how i'd even begin to make a script for this.i could go and make a copy of greater DT, create outlined versions of all the characters, import that as its own font asset, and then simply overlay it on the original text object but that is 62 characters i have to modify and two text objects instead of one. i would rather not do that. and i'd need to find a font editor that makes it even remotely reasonable to do.and naturally all the search results are "hey guys welcome to my 10 minute long video about how to use text mesh pro's outline feature. dont forget to disable that adblock!" instead of actual help.god i hate fonts.
>>4144473try making an pixel perfect outline shader (there is probably one available online already)
>>4144448>your way of thinking, is how movie budgets balloon out of control, because they get into this mindset of "to achieve the effect I want, I have to spend x money" instead of "how do I make this happen."It seems to me that your way of thinking is just the hollywood thinking substituting money for time and extra effort. You balloon the amount of time and effort required to make something when the AI can be a good solution to a problem.>lacks an artists integrity and you come across a person who's very principled except suddenly when it comes to taking shortcuts with ai?I've never been against people taking shortcuts in principle. I don't like doing it, and I like when people don't do it, but I think getting the art made and working around your compromises to make something good despite them is a great example of creativity and even artistry. I don't think prompting and genning are art, but I think its genuinely impressive when someone can take the trash that is Ai and make something genuinely good out of it.> but your position is neglectful. the existence of .01 percent exceptions does not a rule make.But does that mean we should just throw out those exceptions? Deny their existence? Call them slop when they aren't?
>>4144475>shaders with TMP objectsi cant do that, im using unity 2020 and that feature was added later.instead, for some god forsaken reason the font asset IS the shader.
>>4144480this is why I go with the "good enough" mentality instead of trying to make everything perfect, nothing would get done otherwise
>>4144454>A chain breaks at its weakest link.>A single bad part drags everything down.But then I make an argument like this and I'm catastrophising or being unreasonable>Hasn't stopped you from degrading the shit out of it before.But I still draw it. I wouldn't draw it if I hated it.>You're saying there's nuance, where there isn't any, and before, you say there's no nuance, where there is.I just don't know how I can express to you that you're doing the exact same thing you've repeatedly said I was wrong, not only wrong but terrible, for doing. I'm not even saying you're terrible, I'm just asking you to please see my point of view here.
>>4144469>Clearly I'm right to be concerned about, judging by what's just happened.but that's not what's happened. I've engaged with your points, allowed you to say what you want to say, while addressing those points.>Stop and think about what the implications of what you said are for me, what you are telling me to do there. the implications is the basic thing that goes for any social situation. When you say something related to something that just happened, even if you're not talking about that thing itself, people are going to assume that your statement has something to do with that.I am giving you fair indication so that you can make the clarifications so that people understand you better. you are worried about something I am not doing, and it's making you miss what I'm actually trying to do.If I am the one who failed to get that across originally, I can accept that, sorry, but the point I'm making there is, people are naturally going to expect when you talk about something that is topical, that you are saying something about that, or have their feelings on the matter skewed understandably by what's happening. >But how does the mere existence of AI attack that vulnerability? humans have a bias towards laziness as a survival mechanism, and the drives that kick that aside generally are because of some form of necessity, which is why we have expressions based around it. a shortcut has been made that makes a lot of people who don't know or believe better jump to it.>But you can't just coerce people into having that need. Once the need is gone, its gone. the need is internal. they need something done, they find a way to make it happen. If you subvert the need with something that half asses it like ai does, then someone may convince themselves the need is gone, but they need gentle but firm reassurance that they are making themselves and their work worse by these shortcuts.
>>4144469>No amount of shaming is going to bring the need back.informing people that the ai is indeed slop is going to encourage people to seek other methodologies. you are asserting something is fixed (the need evaporated) when it hasn't, and the demand is still there, but the internal pressures are weakened unless people firmly reassure that human made art is still what people want, and that ai weakens the whole.>And we also have an entire swathe of the population who militantly despises art as a craft because of stuff like thisentire swathes of the population are just going to bitterly swing at anyone doing anything for themselves. it has nothing to do with "forcing". This isn't politics, and even if you wanted to make an analogy here, the example would be if someone was using ai art as a new artist, instead of just swarming them in a frenzy, people should calmly, firmly, and confidently tell them to not do that. >And this is of course ignoring that something good with artistic merit could come out of Ai that wouldn't before, You're casting that out in the name of ostensibly attempting to force people into your specific kind of art through what sounds worryingly like manipulation to me.it sounds more like you're not listening to me if that's what you're saying. I have been meeting you at the table here this whole time so don't hit me with this kind of bullshit. I've laid out the various reasons about how ai actually weakens the whole. don't use cop outs like "specific kind of art" when I'm standing in favor of every kind of art. >And necessity caused a great many inventions here.it didn't. it's low level generation the likes of which I've seen on many ai sloppa "creepy" threads on /wsg/. nothing was invented, the person instead skipped the directors process of innovation and worked in a least common denominator fashion.
>>4144460No I didn't.
>>4144482>I just don't know how I can express to you that you're doing the exact same thing you've repeatedly said I was wrong, not only wrong but terrible, for doing. I'm not even saying you're terrible, I'm just asking you to please see my point of view here.And how many times have you called me terrible and evil for doing something before? Fuck off. Don't pretend like you're suddenly just so much fucking better now, you've done this same shit over and over again.
>>4144486Did you, or did you not fucking say, that digital art taking less effort makes it less artistically valuable than traditional art?The answer is yes, you fucking did, multiple times.You're arguing that I don't know what you've said, when *you* don't even seem to know what you fucking said.Shut the fuck up.
>>4144477>It seems to me that your way of thinking is just the hollywood thinking substituting money for time and extra effort. not in the slightest. These people still work under deadlines and external pressures. Some of the biggest success stories in film come from people making calls under pressure and time constraints while also running out of money. Failures too. it's a crucible that makes the things that are actually worthwhile out of that hellhole.I don't feel like you're taking my argument seriously if you came to that conclusion about what I said.>But does that mean we should just throw out those exceptions? Deny their existence? Call them slop when they aren't?it means we should take those exceptions for what they are, entertaining but decidedly lessened in their act of art. It is the dividing line between art and entertainment, and it is now less art than a childs first fanfiction.>I've never been against people taking shortcuts in principle. I don't like doing it, and I like when people don't do it, but I thand the problem is you're applying that too strongly. There are degrees to compromises, and the compromise where you outsource your thinking to something else that doesn't even think is the greatest and most terrible compromise that can be made in something artistic. The whole point of the art is the thing coming forth from the human spirit, and that's what makes art the most important endeavor human kind has ever taken on. A compromise of "I don't have the skill to do it this way so i'm gonna try doing it that way" is a compromise, but it still maintains the entirety of the integrity.the compromise of "I don't have the skill to do it that way so I'm going to let loose the reigns and have auto complete generate it for me" is sacrificing the core part of the art.this is the equivalent to selling out. making something that is no longer yours or your teams, because it was the easy way.
>>4144468Hell yeah it is time to play spookygaem
>>4144461>I haven't even been dismissing your points in this argument outright. I've been engaging with your points even though I vehemently disagree with much of what you're saying.And I thank you for that. At this point I don't expect to convince any of you of my position, but I at least hope to not be made a pariah over it.>dismissive stuff like how it makes it sound like ai art is about on the same level of soul as digital art.I was pointing out how dismissive his arguments were. Trying to show him how I feel, by using something I know he would see as having merit as an example.>nta, but the problem is most people see art as an expression of human creation, and offloading a significant portion of that creation to something that is not human, de-arts that part, and drags down the rest of the ship as the other anon said. And that's fine. I just don't think its this ruinous power that's impossible to escape.>the problem is the logic isn't bad because digital takes leagues more effort than ai, mountains more to an incomprehensible level. They exist in such different classes that even if it is less, it is not comparably less.The problem is that you keep discarding the fact that the work we were discussing as an example wasn't just made by lazily typing a prompt into an LLM. It took quite a lot of effort despite parts of it being automated.>Look anon, I know you're worried about everyone turning against you, and I know there's one person who has not great feelings with you, but I'm talking in good faith here. even if you don't agree with some of my points, I'm not being pedantic here.I know, and I'm grateful to you for that.
>>4144482>But then I make an argument like this and I'm catastrophising or being unreasonableBecause there are degrees of bad, and I don't agree that an element in a story that's bad makes the whole thing bad, the same way completely handing off part of the entire process that made us come to the attraction, to my phones auto correct is bad.and you do catastrophize sometimes. You tell yourself that things are all over for you when there are still people that have the patience and willingness to engage with you and give you respect in a conversation.I haven't even told you any kind of "you need to take that back" anon, I just think you're dead wrong about all of this and am engaging with you like a human being dude.
>>4144464>it is more -convenient-, not easier, as it presents its own challenges and skills to learn.To an extent convenient really does mean easier, and in another point convenience is a lot of way AI stuff is about. There genuinely are skills involved in working with that stuff to get something decent out of it, to take what starts as slop and to end up with something that isn't at the end of the process. I just think you're being too dismissive here.>>4144466You can scan them to make them digital. Doom's graphics, as an example, were clay models that got photographed and turned into sprites. A lot of old Nintendo games had their graphics designed on paper, then programmed in as pixel data. A lot of textures in games are just photographs or real surfaces.
>thread pest gets outed for using AI>the two dramawhores make it about them
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>>4144494>but I at least hope to not be made a pariah over it.I am never going to pariah you anon, but I do think this position is extremely lame and uninformed. I do think you're failing to engage with some of my points too, but I'm not going to pariah you over that even if I am frustrated.I can understand the other anon being extremely mad at you because honestly I still believe that your stance here is very reckless and lacks an artists integrity. that's aside from the fact that you did choose your words poorly earlier and don't seem to be able to see it on the whole digital art vs ai art thing. You are too all or nothing about "well this is a compromise so all compromises are permissible" but I don't think that's true at all. >I was pointing out how dismissive his arguments were. Trying to show him how I feel, by using something I know he would see as having merit as an example.I was pointing out how dismissive his arguments were. Trying to show him how I feel, by using something I know he would see as having merit as an example.but the problem is fundamentally you are pointing it out using something that doesn't work, because digital art -is- in a whole other classification of effort and skill. The way you were pointing it out does not work because of the moving parts here.
>>4144494>>4144504>And that's fine. I just don't think its this ruinous power that's impossible to escape.there's already a lot of people on /v/ succumbing to the rot more than ever before, this in the face that /v/ bans draw threads regularly but allows ai threads means its more important than ever to take a strong stance on this and encourage the virtues of traditional art, because these negative sides are there and they aren't going away as ai gets "better". you can't turn a blind eye to this.>The problem is that you keep discarding the fact that the work we were discussing as an example wasn't just made by lazily typing a prompt into an LLM. It took quite a lot of effort despite parts of it being automated.I'm not dismissing it, I used the director example in the first place -because- being a director is a lot of work, but he's still copping out on a very important part of that work, and everything suffers because of that. >>4144501>two
>>4144488So what, you just get to do whatever you want and I'm supposed to "shut my fucking mouth" specifically because you take anything I say which you happen to dislike personally? What am I supposed to do with that? >>4144496I'm going to assume you're a different person from the other person I'm replying to. Its fine that we disagree, at this point I'm willing to drop the subject entirely. And I appreciate you treating me like a human being. But be that as it may, I still have serious issues with the other person that seem to keep happening despite my best efforts to make them not happen. Shits keeps getting taken personally and treated as the worst thing ever, and I'm the devil and its a big shit flinging match, when I never insulted anyone. And no, that was not an insult. I mean holy shit, I can't exist in here anymore. People tell me not to worry, but then I say one thing while trying my best to not upset people and it still turns into a nuclear firestorm. And watch him go for my throat over this too. Or someone. Someone will do it.
>>4144499>To an extent convenient really does mean easier, and in another point convenience is a lot of way AI stuff is aboutsee this is the kind of stuff that's dissapointing to hear.There is a fundamental difference between "hey this art program has all the tools that you would need to use but you still have to do all the work" and "you need to describe things to a machine". because ultimately if the art was made with ai or traditionally, that directing process still has to happen, and I think that's the part you're skipping here man. that's not a new step that only the aifag has to do. I have been treating your arguments seriously and respectfully despite my strong feelings on them and man, I don't think it's reasonable for you to be saying someone else is being dismissive in this.You come across in this post as just a few steps short of saying luddite
>>4144490I said that a given work made digitally has less soul than an equivalent work made physically. And I even gave exceptions for art that plays to the unique quirks of digital.And so what, even if what you said was true, you hate me and are taking a personal injury over me saying that physical art is better than digital art? That you honestly can not tolerate someone holding that position?
>>4144511>I still have serious issues with the other person that seem to keep happening despite my best efforts to make them not happen.because ultimately man, while I'm treating you with respect, you're holding a pretty shaky opinion that you came on really poorly about at the start of this converstaion, and you are asking for grace that you yourself did not give in past conversations.I'm giving you that grace because I told you I would give you that grace, because I want you to keep making efforts and trying, but like I told you when the big argument happened that other day, you can't blame someone for holding some anger with you. Things don't instantly get better because you start trying, but things are able to start getting better because of it.>but then I say one thing while trying my best to not upset people and it still turns into a nuclear firestorm.well that's also in part because, and I'm sorry to be hard, but you suck at phrasing, and you can only get better at that by recognizing that.I don't hate you but I really think you're missing the forest for the trees in this whole discussion.>>4144516> you hate me and are taking a personal injury over me saying that physical art is better than digital art?again, you really need to understand that this is not what you were communicating. this is the doubling down thing that was talked about.
>>4144492>I don't feel like you're taking my argument seriously if you came to that conclusion about what I said.I'm sorry anon. Maybe I'm not giving it the proper consideration that I should. I'm not really in a proper state of mind right now because of the other half of the discussion that's currently going on.>it means we should take those exceptions for what they are, entertaining but decidedly lessened in their act of art.>It is the dividing line between art and entertainment, and it is now less art than a childs first fanfiction.You see this, this bothers me, I find the premise of the statement upsetting. But I try my best not to get emotional at you over it, and to try and engage with it rationally. But then I say something that upsets someone else, and they have full casus belli to do whatever they want to in reprise. I thank you for not doing that anon, but I just can't take this shit.
>>4144512>"hey this art program has all the tools that you would need to use but you still have to do all the work"But you don't have to do all the work, because there's now less work to do.And yes there's a very big difference. The amount of work reduced is much greater with Ai than it it with digital, but there is a reduction of the amount of work there. But there is also some similarity.>luddiiteI wouldn't call you one, but I think people here are being too militant about it. Too eager to take things as acts of war.
I just woke up like an hour ago after falling asleep and the first thing I see is another thread wide argument, I haven read every post but so far I don't think Oldentale is being unreasonable at all, I haven't watched that AI show he's talking about but I fully agree with the idea of making a show that takes advantage of the uncanny looks created by AI, making it with a actual art or models would be against it the point, that would be like making something that takes advantage of low fidelity pixel art and people arguing that it would be better if it were made in a more detailed style, I know even shitty pixel art takes more effort than AI slop but you should see my point, he's also right with digital art being easier than traditional art, that's just a fact, I'm not much of an artists but having layers and being able to undo any mistakes makes things way more accessible, does that mean that traditional art is better than digital? No, but it does mean that someone that makes masterpieces in traditional style has either more skill or more patience than someone who makes those same pieces in digital.I think he worded some of his posts very poorly like his comparison with traditional art vs digit vs AI slop, I do think most stop made with AI is shit and it shouldn't be used in creative works but one show taking advantage of AI slop has nothing wrong, people just get very extreme when it comes to AI because 99.9% of it is shit.
>>4144519>again, you really need to understand that this is not what you were communicating.> this is the doubling down thing that was talked about.I'm not doubling down, I just think its perfectly reasonable for people to expect people to read it the other way, or to at least not take it as a personal insult, or if even that is too much, to at least accept it as a misunderstanding >and I'm sorry to be hard, but you suck at phrasing, and you can only get better at that by recognizing that.What should I have said? As an honest question, knowing what I meant, how should I have said it?>but like I told you when the big argument happened that other day, you can't blame someone for holding some anger with you. >Things don't instantly get better because you start trying, but things are able to start getting better because of it.I don't think they are going to get better. This conversation really makes it seem like I really am just fucked. Even now, it still doesn't seem reasonable in my eyes for someone to take that as personally as he did. I'm not even saying this as a personal attack on him or that he's in the wrong, just that I am well and truly fucked if its just impossible for me to see that. Because it either means that it isn't there and everyone really does just misread everything I say in the worst way possible. or it means that I'm just incapable of realizing how hurtful the things I say are.
>>4144521>You see this, this bothers me, I find the premise of the statement upsetting.I see it in the same way that other anons (maybe you?) have viewed shu. despite the low quality of what shu is, there is purity to it, as some anons have said. not purity as in "purity testing", but purity of form. Forking over to the LLM part of your creative process removes some of that purity, which makes it less art.This is in contrast to digital art vs traditional art, where the purity of form is still 100 percent. it is pure, platonic concept, art. the quality may be different because of the creative medium but it is still the same in terms of how much "human spirit" went into it. this is why your comparison earlier falls apart. because for the parts that matter to people in a creative community, which we are, traditional and digital art are both capable of being a complete and entire medium for the spirit. the cables have 100 percent transmission efficiency, even if the final result comes out looking different due to the make up of the wires.ai generation however is not that. even if there is some artistic integrity in there, it's still far from the 100 percent transmission because of the nature of what ai does. it is not just "a tool" as people call it, because it is designed to take over a chunk of that creative process. however much of it you use for that, is that much less of your own spirit you are putting in, even if you have all the directing and editing to do, because those are things you'd have to do with normal art anyways. I am not approaching this in a knee jerk manner.
>>4144533>This is in contrast to digital art vs traditional art, where the purity of form is still 100 percent. it is pure, platonic concept, art. the quality may be different because of the creative medium but it is still the same in terms of how much "human spirit" went into it.But is it though. It has a meaningful impact on the nature of your art. Physical art has this magical feeling to it that digital just lacks. Maybe it has some of it, but it has less. It just doesn't feel as good. Maybe its not the the soul or any of the other things we're discussing, but it feels like its missing something that physical art isn't.>the cables have 100 percent transmission efficiency,That feels like it might detract from the soul of the art>however much of it you use for that, is that much less of your own spirit you are putting in,But speaking as a creative person and an artist. There's only so much of me to put into something. I'm not every kind of artist and I don't want to be. My answer to that conundrum isn't AI, but I don't think I can fault someone else for thinking its theirs.
>>4144531>to at least accept it as a misunderstandingI am accepting it as a misunderstanding, but I have tried to lay out what the misunderstanding was, and instead you shifted to the statements about trad vs digital when the issue is as I keep restating, what i wrote in >>4144533>What should I have said? As an honest question, knowing what I meant, how should I have said it?cut out the "i could say the same thing" since you're adding the baggage of what the anon said (no longer art) to your post which makes your comparison sound much harsher than you apparently wanted it to sound.you could have instead let your statement stand on its own, but pulling the "i could say the same thing about digital art" doesn't get your point across well and you're leading with something harsh that's more likely to incense the reader. Context is very important when communicating a message.beyond that probably emphasize less on the shortcut aspect because that's a negative connotation word. I still don't agree with this usage of ai but if you're trying to communicate your meaning better, leading with stuff like that is a bad way to start.
>>4144530Thank you anon, it means a lot to know I'm not a complete pariah
My 2 cents in this whole conversation is that be it traditional or digital, as long as you're the one holding the pen, that's what matters.So long as you don't ask AI to generate stuff and then pass it off as "your" art, then I don't care what medium you use. I myself use a mix of both depending of what I feel like doing at the time or what's available to me.
>>4144539>It just doesn't feel as good.you're going at it with a subjective approach based on how the medium makes it feel for you.you're then asserting that as a universal, but it's possible that people who started digital would have the emotional ties built up differently since it's a different experience that still fundamentally reacts to your whims and wishes rather than a generated approximation.for the creator it is still 100 percent the wishes and heartfelt efforts of that maker.>but I don't think I can fault someone else for thinking its theirs.I do because their art is actively made worse because of it, because it stifles their growth, and I've addressed that in some ways that you never really addressed in this conversation, so with all due respect, I don't personally want to re-state that at the moment.
>>4144262I mean, I'm also a guy who draws but doesn't post his stuff anywhere but on discord servers or here, so I wouldn't have precedence of my stuff on social media. Unless you meant like, not even talking/liking/reposting/ etc?
I drew the boye with my fingerhttps://noz.rip/sketch/gallery#27285
https://files.catbox.moe/sqh2jh.pngmay i presentMOOCHROT: HALLOWEEN EDITIONhappy halloween anons
>>4144547>cut out the "i could say the same thing" since you're adding the baggage of what the anon said (no longer art) to your post which makes your comparison sound much harsher than you apparently wanted it to sound.But I was trying to show him how unreasonably harsh he was being.>beyond that probably emphasize less on the shortcut aspect because that's a negative connotation word. But I don't think shortcuts are inherently bad. I think they're actually really good when they're done in clever ways. Like the reuse of assets in a way that makes them feel fresh, or all the crazy tricks movies do to save on their effects budget.>>4144547Well what about art that reuses existing assets that the artist didn't create. Say something like DBZA, that just recuts and dubs over an existing animation. Wouldn't that by the same logic have less of the human creative spirit in it? Or what about machinima made with video game assets, levels, and npcs?
>>4144557Its not just that, I know there are other artists in here that don't use social media, this is just something else that piles up with other small evidence/suspicions >>4144332
>>4144559holy SHIT Thank you sig. thank you very much for the moochrot.
>>4144559Thanks Sig, that mid transformation Mooch looks really hot.
>>4144560Anon, I sent you a message so that we don't drown out the new art that got posted. I understand what you're trying to say.
>>4144556>you're going at it with a subjective approach based on how the medium makes it feel for you.But isn't this all ultimately based on feelings? Like all this about human spirits and lack of involvement, isn't it all just ultimately an abstraction to explain logically why all of the AI slop out there feels so wrong?> but it's possible that people who started digital would have the emotional ties built up differentlyI started with digital art too. Though I do get what you mean about different perceptions.>I do because their art is actively made worse because of it, because it stifles their growth, and I've addressed that in some ways that you never really addressed in this conversation, so with all due respect, I don't personally want to re-state that at the moment.That's fine. I'm probably not fit to discuss it right now anyways. Sorry for being a bother.
>>4144558Cute Yag
>>4144558Cute, but I don't really know if you should be going around telling people that.
>>4144503Short haired Zenith Martlet? That's a new one.
>>4144559I'll say that I personally don't like that zenith mooch much, I like when mooch has plump smooth thighs instead of them being all muscularStill nice art, good work as always
>>4144559very niceand i do agree that zenith mooch should be "plump smooth" rather than muscular
>>4144531>I don't think they are going to get better. This conversation really makes it seem like I really am just fucked.I think you are indeed putting effort into being more civil, I do think things can improve for you and the other anon but it will take time, don't give up man.
>>4144559Cool moochoween
>>4144577>I do think things can improve for you and the other anon but it will take timeI don't believe that is something you can predict externally.
>>4144559this gets you into prison in the uk now desu
Hartlet is holding the ...Mike.......
>>4144591minor spelling mistake FUCK
>>4144589What
>>4144604the world's biggest nanny state is nannystating yet again, to keep retarded teenagers from trying to choke each other the government has decided that any form of choking/smothering content is now illegal to distribute or possess.
>>4144610Wouldn't it already be illegal because its unlicensed porn?
>>4144621you think the bri'ish gubberment is smart enough to understand that?
>>4144559Oh god, as the anon who requested Zenith Mooch stealing candy. I kneel Sig, for not giving one but TWO Zenith Mooch's. Happy Ween to you too, man. One day I'll try and draw your design.
>>4143683As far as I know there are music replacers and a "Dreemurr" race. I usually just use the generic anthro mod and custom make my characters.
>>4144559Neat stuff, nicely done.
>>4144559Has anybody drawn Mooch as Moo-och yet?
>>4144688Cow Mooch....Couch....
Do mods count as fangames?https://twitter.com/_VioMarks_/status/2116198882128372000Balatro mod that's UT/DR
>>4144725Depending on how big they are, yes they count, UT/DR themed mods for other games have been posted here before anyway, like that Rivals of Aether mod that released recently.
>>4144691Cooch...
>>4144728>Rivals modoh cool I wanted to post about that.Ceroba has a taunt where she gets wasted and it actually damages her.https://x.com/LizardsArt89/status/2113111917333995843
It's over....
>>4144784What's over?
>>4144591what happened to that guy making the UTY FNF mod? been a while since I last saw anything on that
>>4144805he died.
>>4144805He is still out there, but he seems to have abandoned the project. We didn't recieve the confirmation that he fully cancelled it though.
One of the Orange games just released a demohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB8N6ty1yTQhttps://gamejolt.com/games/UndertaleOrange/236632
>>4144624They're pretty smart about inventing reasons to busybody. They can think of all sorts of reasons to arrest you over literally nothing.
Echoes of Kindness devloghttps://gamejolt.com/p/undertale-echoes-of-kindness-halloween-devlog-exszppih
>>4144857Why is is black?
>>4144857This is like the third or fourth Green take I've seen with that design
>oldentalefag mentally collapses into actively defending vibe-coded slopGreat.Happy ween
>>4144867I disagreed with pretty much every point he made, but vibe coding didn't even come up in that conversation. No need to be dishonest to drag the argument into a new day.
What are you doing on Yagi's birthday, anons?
>>4144530I'm in the same boat. I can't say that I fully understand the evolution of the argument as it's gotten tangled up, but I feel like I need to say something in OldentaleAnon's defense, despite how much he's grated on me because of his "style of argument," let's say. And I've only ever been exposed to it as an bystander. All that said, in this case, I think he's getting shit on because of recent drama and not just opinion. Well, that, and because this is a double threat of the "what is art?" conversation AND the AI conversation, both of which tend to be insanely toxic.I might get jumped on for this, but I didn't think his treatment was fair during the sockpuppet revelation either. I'm even more foggy on how that shook out precisely, but from what I saw, he wasn't trying to defend the behavior, he was just taking too rigid a stance, on account of his experiences in past threads with schizo hunting. And not listening very well, but hey, I think he's done pretty well in this conversation. At least from what I've been able to parse.The worst thing he did was make the thin-skinned comment, and from my understanding, he didn't realize that the one anon had actually been harassed, did he? I genuinely can't recall, but I sympathize, as I struggle to identify anons as well. But anyway, he went too far and inadvertently became a tool of the enemy, but his principle was correct, just applied too fervently. Ironically, some of his predictions are coming true in this very argument, with anons making accusations of him being a sock puppet.
>>4144867Now that's just a lie, he never mentioned vibe coding, I tought he had some valid points even if I think most AI generated stuff is just slop
>>4144893Gonna do the Yag dance
AI generated Ceroba paws...
>>4144932Bucklemeario...
>>4144893I'm still trying to get the fox costume set in Terraria. I may just give up on that though and do something else.
>>4144938Who is that?
>>4144899>All that said, in this case, I think he's getting shit on because of recent drama and not just opinion.No id say my arguments all had basis in what he was actually saying. Lets not get reductive here.
>>4144940Nta but its the e6 username for martlet "draw" anon.
>>4144893Decided to doodle
>>4144953Why did you post a picture of me
>>4144958I bought a cupcake to have, so, we're both cake eaters, that is of course unless you're being unfunny. In which case I need to inform you, you aren't that guy pal.
>>4144958Asriel...
>>4144941I was trying to keep the argument itself out of my post because I wanted to focus on the venom in some the replies (i.e. the "getting shit on" part.) That's also why I said "not JUST the argument," because I'm not trying to discount the good faith arguments.
>>4144953Hell yeah, that's cute
>>4144960I didn't get what you've said, but I hope you enjoy your cake
>>4145009I was insinuating it was mondo gay to pretend to be the yagmeister if this was unclear.
>>4144953LITERALLY me
>check esix for new robas>number of results is higher than last night>check>it's feathered maskWe're getting tricks this year anons
>>4144953WE are Yagi
>>4145029fuck. at least I saw a bunch of new regular roba art today.
>>4144899>The worst thing he did was make the thin-skinned comment, and from my understanding, he didn't realize that the one anon had actually been harassed, did he?No, he had been told before, but that aside, he had some nerve calling me "thin-skinned" after he had a mental breakdown over a fictional plush rabbit, which *I* tried to help him with.I'm not continuing this, but I reserve my right to anger.
So, I imagine today's when we're doing the Geltarune thread?It's the perfect day for it, after all, what's scarier than having a job?
>>4145036yeah I'll try and get a thread going, I don't have shit for images on this device though.
>>4145037I dunno, could try that image from last time, if it's in this thread somewhere.Also laugh at my job joke.
>>4145043I chuckled at it. I'll go look for that image.
>>4145035I'd never deny your right to your anger. Regardless of intent, he belittled your suffering, and an insult is an insult. As for him being told of the harassment, everyone's blood was so hot at the time that I'm hesitant to accept testimony alone.Anyway, I'll let this go as well and I hope the parting is amicable. Godspeed on your projects.
>>4145034In the thumbnail it looks like she has really big boobs from how her robe creases
>>4145029On the bright side, I got a new sexy Zartlet that didn't make her a muscle girl.
>>4145054>Godspeed on your projects.Thank you. I hope to have my current drawing done by today, even if it may not be ready to post during everyone else's waking hours.I am now on the shading though, so I'm effectively on the final stretch.
>>4144953TO SCAIRY
Soup's on.
>>4144893Since when was this a thing? Unless you're still trying to push the retarded notion that Ralsei was based on the tumblrtard
>>4145089>since whenSince now. Because Halloween is scary, and today's the day.
>>4145089I believe that's the joke, yes.
>>4145089>He's still madToday is a day to have fun dummy
>>4145112But what if he's a mad dummy
>>4145116That's xer deadname, bigot
>>4145118Mettaton doesn't mind the fact he is a ghost, why would Maddie be too?
>>4145121Because Xhe's not a dummy anymore, bigot.
>>4145155Mettaton asks "would you smooch a ghost", I don't think they care
>>4145158Mettaton has internalized possesedphobia, his opinion doesn't count
>>4145158That's because Mettaton is chill. If anyone were to pull a "its maam!" it would be maddie, he/she/it/that tries to murder you because you mildy inconveniences xi/xer/their/those cousin.
>>4145169>Mettaton is just grateful for having a body and doesn't care what anyone sees them has>Mad mew mew is constantly fighting for her body and has a big problem with anyone who misgenders herha ha ha ha
Started a new job so progress on this project will get slower but I've got a nice handful of stuff done. I'm thinking about contacting a fan musician I like for one of their songs, has anyone else done anything like that?
>>4145155How would people react if Toby made Mad Dummy possess a helicopter?
>>4145190That attack looks cool.>has anyone else done anything like that?No, people here have reasons to avoid the wider fandom, closest is DRY1anon accepting the help of musicians that asked to work with the project.
>>4145183Even the Undertale one, which isn't fighting anyone for her body, is till mad all the time because he's just an asshole with anger issues.
>>4145193>Mad Dummy>MDAieeeeee
>>4145193They'd lie, and swear up and down that Toby didn't mean anything by it
>>4145193>BRTTTTTTTRRRTRTRTTRRTTTT's pronouns are "NNNNNRRRRRRRRRRRM" and "SOISOISOISOISOISOI"
>>4145098>>4145102>>4145112right I forgot, retarded bullshit done for the sake of shitting up a thread. surprised you haven't tried pushing it outside of the threats. the wider fanbase might actually buy it
>>4145286>outside of the threats
>>4145061Care to link to the class, anon?
>>4145296No you don't understand Yagi personally threatened him to shut down his e6 account in shame
>>4142643i need to do a rendition of sig's milfet eventually...
Yagi just flew over my house
Jesus, a lot happened since I've been gone.Could I get a clarification on what happened to the unbirthing drawanon:Even though he undoubtedly had sameface syndrome in his art, was his stuff actually done with AI? Or was the suspicion that led to his art on e6 being removed by the mods only due to the fact that he mainly used Catbox for deliveries? And Catbox removes metadata that would include proof if the images were AI gen'd or not?
>>4145354We're not doing this again, read the room.There's more than enough suspicion against him and evidence in his behavior for it to be a reasonable conclusion, and frankly we just don't wanna talk about him anymore.
>>4145354They still had the metadata associated since they were uploaded to Catbox, and given the whole reaction afterwards it's probably a safe assumption to ASSUME that it probably was at best traced over AI slop if not just straight up ai slop.
>>4145354MD got ousted a few weeks back for ultra samefagging, harassing several anons, one in particular the most, and being the person who was always spamming his art or commenting on his own posts. We don't know what Method e6 used, and honestly if he touched the image up after running it through ai, it would remove most data evidence.That said, there was evidence he was still browsing the threads even after getting ousted since he uploaded some art that was made here recently, and there were some suspicious posts made during that time.When he got accused of samefagging again in the thread as the ai accusation went out, he went and deactivated his e6 account.The amount of burning good will he did, on top of his reaction to the newest accusation make it fairly believable considering how generic a lot of the poses and stuff he used were. Like the other anon said. may have been tracing over ai.
How would poisonous/dangerous light world objects turn into darkners? Would they become even more dangerous or would they turn into environmental threats like Chapter 2's acid? Maybe an intelligent environmental threat? Other than a generic "poison" effect it might force the party to decontaminate.
>>4145384I think trying to settle it into one particular hard and fast rule is folly, especially considering the sheer amount of poison/toxic/dangerous things are common.
>>4145368unbirthingfag, (You) won’t be able to get anyone to stop talking about you. you talked about your dumb fetish so much and made lore for it, even going as far as drawing and/or using ai to push it. get over ittldr: cope
>>4145402I am literally the guy that faggot harassed for a damn year, I'm trying to tell that guy to shut up so he doesn't have an angle to start an argument about himself again you fucking retard.
>>4145384Like the other anon said I think that's too broad to define, but maybe all toxic substances share the trait of being more dangerous than a regular darkner, or maybe they can't be touched by a lightner under normal circumstances, like a fire elemental that can't control their temperature.
>>4145368>>4145405If this really is Scrimblo or whatever the hell you want to be called, then I'm sorry that I just want to know what happened and not read through dozens of comments and just wanted a short tl;dr.I get that you're still pissed at the dude for gaslighting you, but don't take your shit out on me.>>4145370>>4145373Alright, I just wanted to know. The last artist that I remember personally seeing being given a warning about them using AI was saran/sarantics and that was because they literally admitted to using it in the comments, so I didn't know if e6 staff could track AI usage unless the "artist" admitted it.
>>4145420>I get that you're still pissed at the dude for gaslighting you, but don't take your shit out on me.There's a difference between "gaslighting" and being continuously harassed by a psychopath for the better part of a damn year, I believe.But fine.
>>4145420>The last artist that I remember personally seeing being given a warning about them using AI was saran/sarantics and that was because they literally admitted to using it in the comments, so I didn't know if e6 staff could track AI usage unless the "artist" admitted it.honestly no idea personally, there's just enough circumstance around it that I can't bring myself to entertain any doubts about it.
>>4145405i see, apologies for the misconception. I thought it was really the fag because he had a history of shutting down any discussion about himi do understand the sentiment about not wanting to hear about him anymore, especially in your position. but, to tell you this nicely instead, people will talk and ask about him since he’s a very unique lolcow. plus, he’s been here since almost the release of uty until now
>>4145427samefag, let me correct myself. he’s still probably lurking here kek
>>4145431>he’s still probably lurking here kekright before his e6 got deactivated he was still uploading art from here. The chances are high, to say the least.
>>4145427i'm nta but i actually checked out the thread to see what happened since he got mentioned elsewhere. what a faghe probably could've been fine if he was just honest about wanting to draw his weird fetish instead of samefagging about it
>>4145437there's like a laundry list of 8 different things he could have just been child about instead of doing for a year straight. after a certain point we just gotta accept that some people are fucking loony I guess.
>>4145427>i see, apologies for the misconception. I thought it was really the fag because he had a history of shutting down any discussion about himHe does do that a lot, and he does still lurk here, but I'm just tired of someone popping in every so often going all "wow, did he really do all that, for real???" and starting shit up about him again.
>>4145451nta, and i know it's frustrating, but we do have a handful of people who only check in once in a while, so I imagine it'll happen a couple more times with just how strange of a situation this has all been.I imagine over time the guys name will fade into distant memory.
>>4145384Maybe they just become a darkner. Catcus-chan was a darkner. Maybe they're not even mean or malcontent, they could be nice.
>>4135591this is how people used to draw starlo in 2024
>>4145485Why are his arms so proportionally small?
>>4145488He only does chest day
>>4145488It's fat, not muscle
regarding all of this it would be funny if one of the guys that gets unreasonably mad about yagi ended up being an ai slopper mad that artists were choosing to draw him and art of the other fangame characters instead of fetish art.
>>4145488be nice to him
>>4145503Look at that image, his hands wouldn't even reach to his fuckin' pockets, he's got T-Rex arms.
>>4145498What, like if the unbirthing AIfag was one of the guys that hates Yagi?
>>4145506ye like within the context that he'd be pissed because people that can draw like him
>>4145513I think I had a stroke trying to read that.
>>4145514what's confusing about it? he's mad because people aren't drawing unbirthing instead of like bradley
>>4145516Oh, okay.Your sentence structure there just seemed a bit odd, is all.
>>4145498I consider you both on the same level.
>>4145520well that'd be weird because I don't post pics typically and mostly lurk
>>4135591I had the misfortune of getting jump-scared by art of Chujin encountering Kanako and Ceroba sucking off Clover
>>4145522Same here.Some people have no sense of propriety.
>>4145520>BothThat's a great joke bucklemeario
>>4145522may I see?
>>4145498I'd call the writers lazy if they rehashed the same villain again.
>>4145544Just go to e621 and see the most recent on the Undertale yellow tag
>>4145546Can't wait to whip out a "somehow, Palpatine returned" meme for the end of the trilogy.
>>4145546Its not really rehashing, this is like retconing every little bad thing through the series into being the fault of a single villain.
>>4145551I feel like I've seen this done before. "It was me Barry" is the funniest example, but there's got to be others.
>>4145554>It was me, Barry!>I jerked you off at super speed when that girl touched your arm, so it would seem like you came from just a woman's touch!
>>4145551Is it really a retcon if it happens to be that two incidents of vaguely the same shitty behavior happen to be the same guy for more or less the same reason for both instances of the behavior?
>>4145559Maybe not a retcon but still lazy writing
>>4145562Fair enough
>>4145554Apparently the villains in World of Warcraft are like that, at least from what I've heard every bad guy introduced in the latest expansion was actually just trying to buy time to fight the bad guy from the next expansion, and the cycle repeats once the expansion after that drops.
>>4145566I get it probably has a really boring reason, but it feels like it'd be really lazy to have "bad guys" in World of Warcraft where one of the factions is explicitly the bad guys.Not that it can't work obviously, but I feel like for something that's been around since 2004 the writing for it would be really formulaic and unsatisfying as they try to fill the lack of a single player shaped hole in that multiplayer game
>>4145297surehttps://x.com/NegativeDye/status/2115886717203075440
>>4145582There is no bad guy faction in WoW. They bend over backwards to make sure both sides are the "good guys". They just introduce third parties as bad guys to have both factions fight them.
So we're approach the third anniversary for UTY.If it was like Undertale, we'd be approaching the release of DRY chapter 1 around this time.
https://gamejolt.com/p/ts-underswap-october-devlog-recruitment-results-progress-update-ujewgkfuTS Underswap update, it's not dead
>>4145594oh neat!
reposting here too, had these doodles laying around starring a much less bulky zart than i usually draw
>>4145621I want to grab and squeeze those thighs. god DAMNIT
>>4145621My only complaint is that pregZart has the smallest breasts of the bunch. She's still smoking hot though, as are all the rest.
>>4145621good stuff. i really want to do a 3d version of martlet in your style some day once i'm good enough for it, it's probably my favorite version of her
>>4145585Thanks anon, thats a good Zart.>>4145621And speaking of good Zarts, holy shit. I love your leaner Zarts Sig. Would it be okay to use these as refs? I more or less used the RtF Zart pics on how I would draw my own version of Zart.
>>4145654ye go for it
>>4145657Thanks Sig, hope you had a nice 'ween too after the moochrot.
>>4145661What does his ween have to do with anything?
>>4145657oh shit sigismunrol, i was am wondering if it's okay to use beuof for a fangameshe will be a midboss. short, depending on if the player is nice to her. very grueling if the player is cruel to her.https://files.catbox.moe/wxnjrj.txt
>>4145666sure go for it, was just a for fun doodle that never really went beyond some vague idea-guy esque stuff for an undertale green take anyways
>>4145669radicool
>>4145663We all had our weens yesterday, anon.
>>4145678Oh, I'm sorry to hear that.What happened to your ween?
