How common was video game piracy in the 90s?
I'm in Latam and I had a PS1 since 1996.They all came already modchipped and all games on all stores were bootlegs (mostly imported from asia), I never saw an original PS1 game until the 2000s
Piracy killed the 90s
>>12901801Piracy killed the turdworld
>>12901818The opposite, it made gaming possible
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very and no laws to shut it downi had access to.an irc bot and an ftp server with everything i found from talking to people on aol and quake. the only limiter was bandwidth, i was on dialup so i stuck to smaller file size games to pirate like roms and 700mb disc games i would get for christmas my birthday and if it was a 2-4 player game my mom would let us buy it on release
Grew up in Germany, out of all the people I knew who had a PS1 in the late 90s only one single guy didn't have it modded. Everyone knew at least one guy who either had a burner himself or had access to one at work, so parents were just like "Why should I pay money for my son's video games when I can just get them copied?"The only reason to buy a game was when neither the local rental shop or some of your friends already had that specific game, so most people had way more copied games than originals.Dunno if it was just a regional thing tho, basically every shop that modded consoles or sold modchips was owned by Czechs living near the border, so I guess having a country full of shady people just a one-hour drive away probably helped lol.
>>12901839Laws only work if you fear the police'in of those laws. And there was no judge dredd for game piracy. The state (ran by boomers) didn't understand or care about computer games. Real police had to deal with the L.A riots, crackheads, and lack of funding. Do you think they gave a fuck about some kid playing a burnt ape escape disk?
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>>12901796Not as common as one would claim. For example you needed a modchip for PS1 and the piracy scene was very niche, that's why many PS1 games ended up with greatest hits titles, making the PS1 the best selling console and the most attractive console to third party publishers.It wasn't until 2001 where piracy finally claimed a victim(Dreamcast). The Dreamcast piracy scene was widespread and required no modchips at all. If Dreamcast were released in the mid 90's, it would have been game over for both Nintendo and Sony.
>>12901796Very dependent on which year in the 90s you're talking about. Watch many anons in this thread not understand the 90s are not the 2000s.
>>12901848>Everyone knew at least one guy who either had a burner himself or had access to one at work,In the late 90s? Doubt.
>>12901936You still had to purchase the system to play the games, retard. Not a single developer declined to port their games to DC because of piracy. Your faggot forced meme is forced.
>>12901936During its lifespan, more PS1 modchips were sold than Dreamcast consoles.Maybe the Dreamcast just died because it had shit marketing and mostly just mediocre exlusive titles? Who knows, maybe Sega's management itself was also kinda retarded.
>>12901796Man I had so many pirated copies of Dreamcast games. It was a gold mine. With PS1, had some copies, but far far fewer.
>>12901796On PC? Common enough, you'd just burn shit to a CD.
>>12901946>>12901952Your poorfaggotry defense of piracy doesn't work here. It's not a meme, piracy definitely killed the Dreamcast, driving third party publishers away from the platform as a result. Modchips in PS1 was way less common. In fact it's unlikely that more "modchips sold" than Dreamcast did. Cope and seethe harder bruh.
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>>12901943It's not like they already were super common, but at around 98/99 they also weren't as ridiculously expensive anymore than they used to be. The average guy didn't have one yet, but for some people like tech nerds, musicians, or others who could use it for their hobby or job, spending a few hundred bucks for one seemed worth it.
>>12901796Everyone I knew with an Amiga pirated games. I knew a few people with SNES disk copiers. Most people I knew with PS1's had mod chips installed.
>>12901936>>12901952Sega's abysmal finances were the biggest factor in the death of the Dreamcast
>>12901954You're the reason it failed. I hope you're happy.
>>12901801Literally the same. SNES too, except I would see original games at big stores. Another thing is that I just realized I've never seen an original PS2 game
>>12901796zsnes was released in 1997. we could play snes and genesis games by '98.
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>>12902018Piracy killed the Dreamcast, that’s the chant you hate, because deep down you know you helped seal its fate. You stole the lifeblood, you drained it too fast. Congratulations idiot, you killed the Dreamcast.
>>12902157And I set fire to your pet dog too. YOU CANT STOP ME!
>>12902238Based. Screw that schizo's dog.
>>12901796Ask grok
>>12902157Piracy did not kill the Dreamcast. Over its 27-month lifespan, an average of 6.3 games were sold per console. At the time the discontinuation of the Dreamcast was announced, there were 8.2 million consoles in existence. During its first 27 months, the PS2 had an average of 5.8 games sold per console. Therefore, if you claim that piracy killed the Dreamcast, you must believe that it reduced potential game sales and caused Sega to lose money. Yet, over the same period, Sony sold fewer games, and they didn't go under. So, no—piracy did not kill the Dreamcast. Furthermore, pirating Dreamcast games was not accessible to the general public when the console was first released.
>>12901801Samet.mexican
>>12901936Piracy Killed The Dreamcast
>>12901796It was probably more exciting outside of bongland, most chipped gamers were chavs the most casual of casual gamers, didn’t even have many games just fifa and yes possibly Tekken or Spyro (all PAL). I got chipped games from one of my uncles (the one who broke my aunts ribs in a domestic) and he only had the most entry level shit, I had to download (once, with a 56k) and eventually buy imports myself
>>12902013I had a weird conversation with a neighbour talking about games where I must have brought up the Famicom Disk System tangentially and he said he used to know someone with one which I was pretty bowled over by, at some point much later on I realised it’s much more likely that he meant his buddy had a SNES copier device (for some reason very early on euros / bongs were calling the SNES the Famicom, not even the Super Famicom strictly, I imagine because there was a scene of importers and even piracy early on and if they even had much awareness of the NES to begin with they probably weren’t already massively accustomed to hearing it being called a Famicom).
>>12901796It was everywhere over here, practically all console shops offered chipping services. PC stores could also sell burned games. It was all under the counter of course.>>12901946>Not a single developer declined to port their games to DC because of piracy.Developers gave no shit because they just developed to whatever systems Publishers commissioned them to work on. It was the publishers who all pulled the plug and said they don't want to release Half-Life or Black & White. It was usually in Japan where developers chose to support the DC but that was because they released Naomi first, then a DC port a year or two later.>Your faggot forced meme is forced.Store owners said circa 2001-2002 that once the boot disc came out, their DC game sales dropped like a stone, despite the hardware still selling as good as before. Piracy absolutely killed the Dreamcast.
>>12902450That possibly happened because the euro SNES release date was 1.5 years later. In late 1990/early 1991 you could already import Super Famicom from Hong Kong, but it wasn't sold in stores until mid-1992 (UK had it as early as May, but mainland Europe didn't have it until after summer).We had a lot of HK Megadrives as well (they were purple like japanese units but had PAL motherboards). I still have my pirate carts from 1992.
>>12902467Yeah I'm pretty sure that was their first encounter with the term Famicom so they just called it that, then they sort of maybe realised the NES was called that in Japan since some of those guys were importing Japanese magazines. I've never come across any indication that anybody in the West was importing Famicoms much less Game Doctors etc even pre-mid 90s and NES emulators but I'd be happy to be proven wrong, guess they just jumped in with the SNES and carried on from there.
>>12901796Is the AI slop even necessary in this case?
>>12901796Bout tree fiddy
>>12901796Piracy killed the NES, PS1, and PC.
Not very I think I was the only person I know to put a mod chip in my Dreamcast and PlayStation. Not only that I didn't see much discussion about it on the forums I belong to. Most people were amazed that I played so many games when in fact I burned them and was able to play Japanese games without purchasing the Japanese system.
>>12902467by the time the console scene or importers got off the ground the American SNES existed but I bet they looked at it kind of like the TG16 especially with the lolcowlised redesign, then the PAL SNES continued Nintendo's shoddy track record for distribution outside of America right up until almost fucking 1993.
>>12901796Very common in Indonesia in the 1990s.
If you owned a GameShark or Action Replay you could pirate games very easily. The "Freeloader" region free gimmicks as actually a pirated disc loader.
>>12901796It's NEVER coming home, lad.
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>>12902825>Stan Wars: The Fork Unbeached
>>12902546>lolcowlised redesignpicrel, SNES jr, or something else?
>>12901796Common Enough That Piracy Killed The Dreamcast.
>>12901796Did it decide to substitute the i for a sharpie by itself or was that an explicite part of the prompt?
>>12901796Not piracy but you could find places that sold bootleg ps1 disks for like $5 that worked without modchips and you were basically a retard if you bought new games full price in the 90s
Like everything else before widespread internet access homogenized culture, it heavily depended on your location. Where I grew up it was unheard of. In other places, pirated games were more common than original ones.
>>12901952Most modchips for the PS1 were DIY jobbies to be made with cheap microcontrollers, they weren't products to be sold as such. >>12902432Not to the general public maybe but anyone slightly with even dialup and some decent (IRL) connections (like an internet café, for example) had ways to get pirated discs easily, and by that point CD burners were starting to be common. Though, I agree with you, piracy didn't kill the Dreamcast, like the PS1 and 2, but it was still fairly common, like PS1 and 2. It sure did give the DC a great afterlife though, immediately and now.
>>12902539And the neogeo aes .
>>12902238>>12902250>>12902432Piracy killed the Dreamcast, that’s the truth you dodge. Your bargain‑bin habits hit harder than sabotage. You call it “preserving,” but you never paid the cost. Every disc you burned was another sale lost.>>12902437Bingo!
>>12902157Fuck Dreamcast it never had a chance against PS2 and Microsoft.More like idiocy of the creators killed it.
>>12903294Piracy Fucked Your Mom
>>12901801My friend from argentina said the same thing, that game stores would sell modchipped consoles and all the games were bootleg copies.
It was really spread back then.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBpZHnH0K14
>>12903294>Every disc you burned was another sale lost.There is a terminus for this narrative, I think it is "le bullshit".
>>12901936>For example you needed a modchip for PS1Nah, I disc swapped
>>12901796I bought a PS1 early 98, and didn't buy or rent a single game.All my games were bootlegs, like was a small game store that burned cd games for cheap;I must had bought like 200+ bootleg games, also exchanging with friends.good times
>>12903294Over its 27-month lifespan, an average of 6.3 games were sold per Dreamcast.At the time the discontinuation of the Dreamcast was announced, there were 8.2 million consoles in existence.During its first 27 months, the PS2 had an average of 5.8 games sold per console.Piracy kill the Dreamcast and PS2 too.
>>12903091user is underage, and retarded
Sony only succeeded because of piracy
>>12901796It was hardly as ubiquitous but everybody knew someone's uncle who could solder
What piracy. No one's a pirate around here.
>>12904251>>12904260>>12904734>>12904927MIL‑CD cracked open and you swarmed like flies, downloading everything with those dollar‑store eyes. You tanked the charts, you gutted the sales. But now you swear it’s “mismanagement” and “corporate fails.” Nah, it was you and your spindle of shame. Lighting up the downfall while pretending you’re not to blame. Piracy killed the Dreamcast,Go on, deny it again. But your stack of stolen games never paid a dime. You laugh at the truth. But the numbers don’t bend, you helped push Sega straight to the end.
>>12905634>my grampa welded a piracy to my PSX in 1990
>>12905643Piracy Burned Your Dog And Killed Your House
>>12901796Wasn’t a thing in my area until like 99. It probably kept the N64 down a bit because nobody bought it in its late deep discount era like they did the SNES since they could chip their PS1 and play 15 minutes of a hundred mid games
>>12904546Most of us, being kids, didn't even know the difference. We came from fake genesis carts and Chinese Famicom clone consoles and carts for the very first games of the nes era.
I don’t understand the appeal of buying legitimate PS1 or N64 games. But as a PC gamer (I also owned a 3DO and a PS1), whenever I had some spare money, I’d buy a proper big box and enjoy all the cool stuff, like huge maps (sometimes made of fabrics), thick manuals, and keyboard layouts.Of course, most of my discs were pirated copies though.
>>12901796Here in Italia even shopkeeper from fuel station sold you piracy games under the table.
>>12906169convenience store owners are spiritually indian
>>12906082The appeal is simple. Physical copies of games with artwork and is displayable on your shelf is way more valuable than a CD-R copy with marker riding, rotting in a CD binder.
>>12906308those rot too, you know
>>12906448Yet I was just playing Resident Evil on my Sega Saturn and it works fine, no issues. Rot seems to only happen on CD-R's.
DCschizo needs to fuck off. Sega's shitty management killed the Dreamcast, and that's the truth.
>>12906590Nah, it was you and your spindle of shame. Lighting up the downfall while pretending you’re not to blame. Piracy Killed The Dreamcast. Go on, deny it again. But your stack of stolen games never paid a dime. You laugh at the truth, but the numbers don’t bend. You helped push Sega straight to the end.
>>12906596Sega has done it all themselves. They spent too much time on the Genesis and it's addons. The Saturn was an inferior product on release, compared to the competition, and they dropped it like a stone instead of making do. The Dreamcast was Sega's last gasp in a market they squandered, and they released it too soon. Too soon to iron out the bugs, and too soon to actually get more sixth-gen titles in its fifth-gen library. And in the end, it offered nothing. All the fuckups in the 90s from Japan, America, and Europe had done them in. Piracy was the fucking least of their problems, you goddamn psycho. Mismanagement killed the Dreamcast, and that is the final truth. May God have no mercy on your diseased soul.
>>12906616Piracy killed the Dreamcast,That’s the truth you dodge,Your bargain‑bin habits hit harder than sabotage.You call it “preserving,”But you never paid the cost,Every disc you burned was another sale lost.MIL‑CD cracked open and you swarmed like flies,Downloading everything with those dollar‑store eyes.You tanked the charts,You gutted the sales,But now you swear it’s “mismanagement” and “corporate fails.”Nah — it was you and your spindle of shame,Lighting up the downfall while pretending you’re not to blame.You never bought a game,But you sure loved to preach,Talking big about “freedom”,While you drained them like a leech.Sega dropped the price,Hoping sales would rise fast,But pirates like you made sure the hope didn’t last.You call yourself a fan,But you fed off the corpse,A parasite choir singing counterfeit chords.[chorus]Piracy killed the Dreamcast,That’s the chant you hate,Because deep down you know you helped seal its fate.You stole the lifeblood,You drained it too fast,Congratulations idiot,You killed the Dreamcast.
>>12902826holy sovl
