DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>12880112Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etcGameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source portsAll other 90s FPS welcome~ Let's post like gentlemen ~FAQ/GENERAL GUIDEhttps://rentry.org/vrbinSO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXzSame thing, in video format:https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXAhttps://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQhttps://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0== GAMES/RESOURCES ==DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8QUAKE Trilogy FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhUHALF-LIFE (GoldSrc) Anthology:https://mega.nz/file/GRUCGbAY#RhOiqxnf7UPOiXcJNbRh-prKIEVRhjJaEpAkt34lyZg4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games:https://mega.nz/folder/etMkxKwK#947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqAAssorted /vr/ shooters, mods, etc:https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Qhttps://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUAMIDI COLLECTIONShttps://files.catbox.moe/2hul76.ziphttps://mega.nz/file/dWQ3SThI#qYcpa4eGQj6ElyRZgjGqszR59dh4Fq9D3qXYee54kZQhttps://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities-midi-collection-2009https://archive.org/details/midiru-archive-2022-02-25.7z== INFO/LINKS ==OFFICIAL DOOM WIKIhttps://doomwiki.org/WHERE TO FIND WADSVanilla/Boom: https://doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/ZDoom: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19/idgames: https://doomworld.com/idgames/MODDING RESOURCEShttps://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37https://realm667.com/== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==THREAD ARCHIVEShttps://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom+thread"/type/op/OUR WADS/MODShttps://rentry.org/vrdepotMAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLYhttps://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrBIMAGE/WAD DATABASEhttps://vrdoom.booru.org/https://wadsup.xyz/MULTIPLAYER SERVERSUS West: https://clovr.xyz/CA/US Midwest: https://macgu.fun/
=== CURRENT RELEASES ===666 Minutes of /vr/Game : Doom 2 | Format : Vanilla (Limit-removing)Repo: https://gitgud.io/GreenAnon/btsx-project/An Eternity of /vr/Game : Doom 2 | Format : Eternityhttps://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=22025=== NEWS ===[10-18] Showtime v2.2, QoL and gameplay changeshttps://cherubcorps.itch.io/showtime/devlog/1703786/showtime-v22-is-live[10-18] Nugget Doom v6.1.0 updatehttps://github.com/MrAlaux/Nugget-Doom/releases/[10-16] Mega Man 8-Bit Deathmatch V6C is releasedhttps://mm8bdm.net/home[10-13] Richard 'Levelord' Gray has passed awayhttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/160524[10-12] Crispy Doom suite v7.2 updatehttps://github.com/fabiangreffrath/crispy-doom/releases/[10-12] New interactive /idgames frontendhttps://planetzdoom.com/idgames/[10-10] Zandronum v3.3 alpha is outhttps://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=11584[10-08] H&H DCP, new 6 map hub for Hexenhttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/160385[10-05] PUSS 3, Hexen mapset, RC2https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/160409[10-05] DN3DooM v1.09 update, tons of new featureshttps://www.moddb.com/mods/dn3doom[10-05] 666 Minutes of /vr/ is on idgameshttps://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=22139[10-05] HELLBABE, new gameplay modhttps://skelegant.itch.io/hellbabe[10-05] Spineless by AD_79 is outhttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/160408[10-04] Zilla's Dorms, new Shadow Warrior maphttps://www.moddb.com/games/shadow-warrior/addons/zilla-dorms[10-01] Aleph One v1.11.1 released, critical security patch for netgameshttps://github.com/Aleph-One-Marathon/alephone/releases/[09-30] Unofficial Kingpin installer for Linux releasedhttps://github.com/molycode/kingpin-linux=== PREVIOUS ===https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST
>Doommore like dude lmao
Do cacodemons migrate?
>>12885440No, but they are holometabolous and turn into Pain Elementals after 5th-gen game console metamorphosis.
This was cool. I had an idea for a map like this years ago, where certain areas of the map silently teleported you to a hell dimension. They did a great job with this since you always know the purple floor changes worlds, and leaving it sends you back.
>>12885440They do. They fly away to get away from shit elementals because everyone hates those guys and also to look for helium deposits so they can refuel.>>12885451Is that eviternity 2? Dust Devil does something similar and it's great.
>>12885440They could be carried.
>>12885482What? By the horns?
>>12885493No, a Cyberdemon could grip them like a bowling ball by the holes on the back. Well, the horns would probably work, but it's not as funny.
>>12885495>lesbian decent prboom+Accurate.
>>12885495>Woof retard>modding tranny>bfg cool guy>uzdoom happened>dev called fps hard
>>12885495>community literally youtubersWith how people keep using them as some kind of standard of how to play and who to deisgn stuff for, yeah that tracks.
>>12885512Some youtubers actually play continuous and save as much as they like. Bigmacdavis and IcarusLives do it.
>>12885512>people keep using them as some kind of standard of how to play and who to deisgn stuff forIsn't there a popular Doomtuber who played with ugly ass texture filtering for years?
>>12885515Ah yes, BigMacDavis. A real pillar of the community.
>>12885512I mean, there are only two big ones that push the blind pistol start single segment UV max crap.decino who basically left the community to be a dad (pretty based) so he doesn't do it anymore.Vytaan who seems to be quite a nice guy but he's not massively popular.Who the fuck else? There's a bunch of two views doing it too I guess.
>>> CLASSIC DOOM CHALLENGE <<<Record a UV-Max demo of Pirate Doom 2 Map 25 "Flying Ghost Ship" by Darch (-cl11)Reply to this post with a demo & your time.Wad download & records:https://dsdarchive.com/wads/pd2Example demo in 6:58:https://files.catbox.moe/cz84af.lmpPrevious challenge winner: Wormwood map 01 in 3:22! >>12859201It's been a little while, but it's still October, so here's something spooky. This wad doesn't seem very popular despite being high effort, so there are no demos for this map on the archive. That's to say, you can have an easy world record if you beat my time. Sprite replacements are numerous but enemies/weapons behave mostly like normal. Beware however, that barons now shoots rockets. >>12885401
>>12885516A bunch of the more normie ones do, the ones who think the height of modding is slapping a bunch of PBR textures and bodycam filters on Project Brutality. That said even John Romero ended up streaming himself playing myhouse.pk3 with them on.
>>12885495>Chaingun SSGDeriver's shotgun immediately came to mind. Love that thing.
>>12885526>That said even John Romero ended up streaming himself playing myhouse.pk3 with them on.His photographic memory is so good that he can just imagine the textures without filtering.
STOP! Post your top 5 wad authors or I will pop this sucker, NOW!
>>12885536Before somebody accuses this of being AI again, it's by a professional concept artist/university lecturer.>>12885543MouldyEduardo & FriendsChookumP1nkac1dWhatever the shit Matt Eldrydge goes by this week.
>>12885536>>12885553this Gordon Freeman one is by the same guy, right?
>>12885553>Before somebody accuses this of being AI againYou can show people a dozen layers and zoom in on brush strokes and 2026 niggas will still say anything remotely detailed is AI.
>>12885536>>12885554Reminds me of all that Marathon artwork, good stuff.
>>12885554Looks like it's by the same chick, yeah, there's a bunch of interviews with her cause of her teaching and stuff where she's said she's pretty hard into retro FPS games.
>>12885512What?
>>12885560>her
>>12885543PipiczLainosEspiDarioMilo
>>12885519His dick isnt THAT big, anon.
>>12885543General top 5:Dutch DevilDemonologistBhadTripEternaldarkreaver/vr/-themed:BrxyzHand-peeledCoffee AchieverJoe-IlyaAnonymous
>>12885543in no particular order>antares031>Eternal>SuperCupcakeTactics>Mechadon>Lainos>Romero
SUNDAY NIGHT SHITSHOW is on!search "macgu.fun" in doomseeker!
>>12885543myoldenflyinggoonerravendeskribbikspetyaan
>>12885543John RomeroSandy PetersenRibbiksSkillsawEternal
>>12885585>AnonymousThanks man.
>>12885585>Hand-peeledAh, my favourite designer from 666mins. Loved their map.
>>12885585>AnonymousIt's me!
>>12880664Reminder that someone has already made a non-slopped isometric GZDoom years backhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUt8Z8mkI-g
>>12885702GZDOOM CRUSADER WHEN???
>>12885640>>12885698My pleasure. Big names are what pull you in, but Anonymous is who makes you stay.
>>12885713Crusadoom already exists, so does the "demo" of that mod, you can run them together to get the same effect.
Free Graf Zahl
>>12885763Is Graf in prison?
>>12885765Playing golf probably, and vibe-coding his perfect doom game just for his own pleasure.
fuck invisible walls and fuck mappers who don't account for coop players
>>12885765No, some Anon is just desperate to bring him up since it's about a year since shit went down and about nine months since he vanished without a trace.
>>12885771I put teleporters in for co-op but I also make sure they're not getting used for telefragging shit.
>>12885604GGs and take it ez
>>12885772Damn, he really did disappear
>>12885765Banished to the shadow-realm thanks to his own hubris from years of arrogance finally reaching its apex. Now let us never speak of that horrible German chicken ever again.
>>12885780lmao, what a loser
>>12885771>fuck mappers who don't account for coop playersAnon, you need testers for that, and most can't afford just a one guy to try their stuff.>>12885765>>12885772>>12885784Samefag
>>12885787Meant to also quote >>12885763, but whatever
>>12885787>samefagNope
>>12885787>Anon, you need testers for thatyou don't even need testers to do shit as simple as "make it so that other players who lagged behind/respawned can get into a room when you put bars up or made the door one-way or whatever"
>>12885787Swing and a miss.
>>12885787No, actually, in most cases you just need to apply basic deductive reasoning. If I slam the door shut behind the player and lock him in, is it then possible for potential co-op players to follow on after him, or do they get locked out? If the answer is no, then typically that's a straightforward fix which won't be noticed in single-player.I don't even balance my maps for co-op at all, but I do THAT much.
>>12885792>you don't even need testers to do shit as simple asMaybe. This makes me one of the idiot mappers who don't account for coop players.>>12885794>Swing and a miss.That's a joke. Maybe take some more piss at ghost people, it may help your comprehension. You and "Graf defenders" are both the same.
>>12885780His Doomworld account's been dead since late October last year too, even when the Lilith shit went down he still kept quietly revisiting it.
>>12885797>That's a joke. Maybe take some more piss at ghost people, it may help your comprehension. You and "Graf defenders" are both the same.Perhaps you're right about my comprehension, cos I only just barely comprehend what on Earth you just said. The fuck you mean by "ghost people"? Did you get lost on your way to r8k?
fml
>>12885803You're the one throwing a shit-fit and erroneously claiming I'm samefagging, retard.
>>12885702I think that humanity really lost something once we moved away from isometric perspective videogames.
>>12885543Serious_MoodChaingunnerXDukeOfDoomShadowmanWraith777BeeWen>Lainos>Demonologist>EternalThese too
>>12885495>gun huge>adding launcher ch-chk>absolutely woman campaign>development constantly tarnsman>imagine plasma real bad>let gz team please add>another particularly original dumptruck mentioned
>>12885543floatRandLunchLunchChristopher LutzRibbiksTango>honorable mentionsdidyLainosthundercunt
>>12885780>>12885801I kinda buy that post an anon made a long time ago that he was burnt out and purposefully escalated once the AI code was discovered as an excuse to retire.I wouldn't say duplicity is his strong suit, I've seen him samefag on DW, but he's in his sixties, right? God, he'd have spent half his life on this fucking game.
>>12885886Graf was in his mid-30s when he first made the GZ fork back 2005, so yeah he's in his 50s now.
>>12885886I guess it's not impossible, he's been doing it for ages, plus a lot of those people seem like they'd be insufferable to work with for longer periods.Not gonna say I believe it fully, because Graf is also arrogant and stubborn enough to actually do that kind of fuckup for real, but it feels plausible enough.>>12885894He's been at it for ages, he was like 18 when Doom first came out, and he said he thought it was the most amazing videogame he had ever seen in his life, remaining his favorite ever since. Was the GzDoom fork his first contribution, or did he make other contributions to ZDoom before that? I feel like maybe he did.
>>12885902Yeah, he very much got his start programming for the original ZDoom project before making the GZ fork.
>>12885927Start programming for Doom sourceports, you mean, because he has professional credits on published PC and PSX games from the 1990s.
>>12885945Incredible ludography
>>12885543Me, myself, and I.
>>12885954But who are the other two?
>>12885958I think that it's implied.
>>12885949>Hedon>Lead developmentExcuse me
>>12885986It's a bit misleading, but it's because he developed GZDoom
>>12885945Captain Obvious, when did you get here?!
>>12885894I always assume Doom modders and coders to be in their 20s or 30s, so remembering there are some guys in this community reaching literal grandpa ages is kind of nuts.But then again this would be the most fitting game to have guys that age around.
>>12886052The game is 33 years old and people already got cracking on trying to mod it within like, a week or so, there's been extensive time for people to get into modding.Two guys of the original TeamTNT have even died of old age, Ty Halderman and Drake O'Brien. One stayed semi-active in the community to the end, and the other, presumably after a brief dabble with videogame stuff in the 1990s, went back to blowing glass, making lamps and decorative windows for a living.Hell, there's already been father-son situations, a Mr. Fares mapping some in the 1990s, and then his son later took a crack at it, doing continuations on his dad's old works.
>>12886071Dr Sleep's son made few maps trying to imitate his father's style.
>>12886113He didn't do too bad either. While he made some tribute's to his father's old design inclinations, he still very much did his own thing.
>>12885886I can't say I buy that, it's not as bad as the fanfiction some /v/ anons have written about him being a master manipulator getting all the unwanted developers to leave of their own accord, but it really doesn't line up with his patterns of behaviour.>>12885902Those types usually are terrible to worth with but they get the job done more or less so they often get some leeway in the workplace.>or did he make other contributions to ZDoom before that?Significantly helped on ZDoom in it's later years and when he pulled the "there you have it, no more gzdoom" thing, also did some mapping.>>12885949>>12885986Those kinds of credits can be all the fuck over the place, I've got some games listing me for all kinds of positions I've never occupied in the vidya industry, all because I did a bit of testing for them in my spare time.
>>12886071>Hell, there's already been father-son situationsThere already was in the games being made, Don Ivan Punchatz and Gregor Punchatz both worked on stuff for id.
I wish I could've done more creative collaborations with my father. Problem has always been he and I are like chalk and cheese when it comes to our interests. The closest we really got to that sort of thing was back when I was in animation school and I did a stop-motion project using various tools from his shed; and I had him be my assistant animator.
>>12885543The Macintosh Team (Realm of Chaos 25th Anniversary Edition (with Cammy))Alexander S. (EPIC 2)Capellan/Adam Windsor (Doom 404)Skillsaw (Valiant)Sgt. Mark IV (Hell on Earth Starter Pack)
>>12886154I was already about to make a buttsex joke with the "I was in marine" line, until it took a fucking nosedive by the second line.
>>12886154So first he had gaysex with a marine while being the top, but then went full pedo rapist and now he is bottom while getting fucked by men in jail. Well that's lot of sex for one wad.What wad btw?
>>12886197Resurrection of DOOM2https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/p-r/rod2
>>12886113Was that actually his son?>>12886154I remember this one. I think it was one of those which had everything out of the R667 catalogue at the time dumped into it.Not very good.
>>12886206>WTF?? SOMEONE'S TRYING TO BREAK THIS SHIT HOLE?
>>12886206Are you sure it's "Resurrection" and not "REPERCUSSIONS?"
>>12885702Stay mad, puny human programmer. You are quickly becoming obsolete. Behold: https://youtu.be/yGkjS0gFxnY
>>12886220Fuck, I can actually hear that in Steve Rambo's voice.
>>12886215>Was that actually his son?All I remember from this is Darknation dropping rhymes on Dr. Sleep’s baseborn offspring.https://doomer.boards.net/post/53032/thread
>>12885719I don't really care that much for isometric but how is that Crusadoom mod? Does it feel like Crusader, is it a good representation of the game? Cause I'm not *that* interested in playing crusader itself but I recognize it's charm and would be much more interested in playing it, but in first person.
>>12886215>Was that actually his son?Yes, his identity was verified by two other Sleep family members and a family friend who all had previously created (and verified) accounts to confirm Dr Sleep's death back in 2018.
>>12886249Not that guy, I never played the Crusader games but the soundtrack is great and been reused in various Doom wads. 90s tracker music feels like a lost art.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwG5BJtZBCUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmqoFpDWCYYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1uVpA4OaBM
I figured out how to make the zombie fodder look green!
>>12886318Well done, Anon. He looks great!
>>12885543me.
Japan's JAXA is about to launch a sample return mission to Phobos
>>12886494>Well, we have plague, insane world leaders, we're close to WW3, AI is proving a problem so what else can we do to fuck things up?>Sir, it's a long shot, but perhaps we can also make Doom real?
>>12886535>doomguy is gonna be some noodly armed japanese nerdWe're all doomed.
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>>12886294Alexander Brandon is incredible.>>12886630>>doomguy is gonna be some noodly armed japanese nerdMight be cool.
>>12886653That's the one with the triangular crushers with a hole in the centre? I don't remember a whole lot about that map other than it being relativelly short, cramped and having some pretty sights.
>>12885543>Best mapperJohn romero>Shitty mapperRevae
>>12886669No, but I recall the next map has something like thatAnyway I beat the map now
>>12886660>Alexander Brandon is incredible.Andrew Sega.
>>12886742>Freelancer>Unreal/UThe truly did what nintendon't
>>12886742Oh shit, how'd I think it was all Brandon. Same production company?>>12886926>Unreal/UTLooking into it, Sega only did a for tracks for each. Unreal 1 seems mostly Brandon.
>>12886938He did mechanism 8 for UT, which like with Tyrian, people assume Alexander Brandon did all of the music.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR9kvbXt4tk
>>12886709Romero pls
>all of this talk about Doom>Nobody ever talks about AmsterDoom
>>12886367Thanks! You can play it here: https://files.catbox.moe/e1yz6q.wad
>>12886494First time I learned Japan even has a space program.>>12885586Is this from the same artist that drew porn of that Jackie Chan cartoon, where it's his niece as a muscular futa fucking the old guy?>>12885543I barely remember any wad authors but I remember 300 mins of /vr/ making me think that anons designed maps in a "this is what I wanna see" kinda way.
>>12886660>doomguy is gonna be some noodly armed japanese dorkWe're so doomed.
>>12887137>spoilerThat sounds fucking hilarious
>>12887137Where do you even find this shit? No.
Hey anons, getting ready to update Phobos Delta to v2.It'll take a little longer than I'm comfortable to get the powersuit done, even though Sableblind's OP gave me something to get started. Unfortunately it also may brick multiplayer and I know from these threads that at least one anon intended to play it co-op, so the powersuit will come later as an add-on so I might as well take my time.The current invuln replacement now also gives you a stupid strong armor, so at least you get more use out of leftover invulns or invulns you couldn't quite make good use of because of the lower player speed or whatever.I'll post everything when I'm able for a last test/bugcatching/what the fuck did I do wrong now before release.
>>12887137>Tonight's Episode: "Anon Accidentally Reveals his Power Level"
>>12887193>0:07If I made a sector every time someone told me "noo you don't understand the vertical aiming in Doom is perfectly fine, skill issue" I would probably have a 512 linedefs submission.
>>12887201It's always been wonky, people have just conditioned themselves to blame themselves when it fucks up on them.
>>12887193>>12887201Looks like the revenant's wandering put him out of the 1-2 pixel range of the autoaim.
>>12887169Okay, here's the link.>https://files.catbox.moe/59yfp9.zipWent ahead and gave Nemesis her own invuln colormap just now.
Sunlust map 27From practice I wasn't expecting this one to be so bad, but I still struggled quite a bit.
>>12885792>>12885796Yeah, it's just good mapping practice to remember to put a nearby switch to teleport in if you do a one-way door. Hell, I've often just done shit like like slapping a teleport acting on the outward facing side of what shuts you in. You don't find it normally unless you're randomly spamming interact around the map, or I guess if you accidentally lead a monster up to it.
Quake 2 64 is crazy I love it, stages are cramped and filled with monstersIm playing in the remaster and I actually crashed the game by awakening too many enemies in like map 7 or so, like 15 berserkers and iron maidens all going nuts in low G what the fuck am I playing, its great I didnt know it would be like this.I also love that there is no inventory, I much prefer the powerups taking effect when you touch them
>Rampancy on Doom 2>Get to Dead Simple>Kill all the Mancubi replacements>See what the Arachnotron replacements for the level areYholl is an fucking bastard for this.
Is online Doom finally dying? I've been playing matches on Doomseeker for 10 years and there's only 40 people on total across all servers, that number used to be triple that a few years ago
>>12887674Probably a lot of Brutal Doom tourists who have lost interest
>>12887137>That spoilerWhat? That sounds like a deranged joke and I'm kind of scared of finding out that it's not.
>>12887674I assume some people moved to KEX co-op because it just werks© when it works, and some moving to UZDoom now that it's getting an actual multiplayer.
>>12885771"Cooperative 2-4 Player : Player starts only"Bitch I did my part
>>12887689I should check that out, I loved playing coop Master of Puppets or Shotgun frenzy and im sad nobody plays those anymore on doomseeker. I remember before that it was Zdaemon too
Finally playing some more Quake.Got through the level I was stuck on with some cheeky sequence breaking.And then did it again after I got through half of the last level and died.I love Rocket Jumping.
so i uninstalled relighted because i was having too many problems in doom 2 where it was way too dark or the textures were even just solid black. i'm not sure what went wrong but since i upgraded to uzdoom the mod has a lot of weird bugs, so that's too badso what i did instead is jack up the saturation and contrast. i always played quake multiplayer where you actually want to see and the lol it's dark vibe of doom was getting stalewhat do you guys think of the new color balance? is it too easy too see now? i like the saturation increase because it reminds me of CRTsbad news is because i unistalled the graphics mod i've bricked all my saves and i'm gonna have to start like 5 wads over. oh well. i'm thinking of restarting TNT on -fast again now that i've realized the game gets a lot easier after map02
>>12887674doom coop is only something i've ever done with friends, not pubsone of the reasons is the game is very ping sensitive so you have to find players in your local area (same reason quake's dead)but i imagine there are plenty of people playing coop with their high school buddies on their switches or whatever compared to source ports
>>12887773Doom co-op is only fun if nobody or everybody knows the maps.
>>12887775that's why when i was in college when we played doom coop we used oblige and set it to be completely impossible by the 8-10th mapthen we never had any fucking clue what we were doing
>>12887674Yeah, and it's been like that for a while too.Mainly because not whole lot knows about it, and when even they get to it, all they see is people playing nothing but megaman, and some lone chinks fighting 32 bots all by himself. Second reason being zandronum is fucking ass in all ways imaginable for A) still stuck in acs/decorate B) still no mbf21 support, which kills co-op playing (it was friendly to setup a co-op session, but it's very limited to maps), and with new uzdoom multiplayer support, its better to go there for actual co-op.As for multiplayer based mods, not whole left active nor people to play it, sometimes people gather to play, like zombie horde or floppy mod or else, but there is no new people, only old faces
>>12887689>getting an actual multiplayerI'm out of the loop a bit. Is it just the overall net improvements to the P2P or what?
>>12887878It's kind of a total overhaul, but on the outside it mostly works the same as it has before, just more smoothly and with a GUI for starting/joining multiplayer in the built-in launcher. The really big upgrade is that latency doesn't scale with player count anymore, each player only feels their own latency to the host and the host experience is almost indistinguishable from singleplayer. There's still work to be done but it's definitely possible for it to become a viable multiplayer port in the near future, more likely than Zandronum is to even figure out what they want to do anymore.
>>12887674It's alive enough for me. I either play Chocolate/Crispy/Woof or Odamex. Woof's got a new a new netcode few days ago, it's buggy enough to use for now but. But yeah, you need to find people to play on discords and be ready to self-host.>>12887775Exploration can also be fun but you need good communication, ideally voice chat. And not to be afraid to lower the difficulty to hmp sometimes because some maps easily turn into infinite respawn->pick up all the the ys->shoot a BFG once->die->repeat loop (assuming vanilla rules with no ammo respawn). If playing UV Max I agree, you need to both know the map well. I always wanted to try MP speedrunning but I can't find anyone with enough time.
>>12887878It's just improvements to the packet server stuff.
>>12887921fuck my english, just woke up
>>12885543Erik Alm40ozEternalGunrockyears
I sure love me some Doom.
>>12887773Public Doom co-op is kind of shit. My memories of the constant Plutonia and TNT servers on ZDaemon 20 years ago is that either a bunch of random noobs struggle to make any headway, or some burgeoning speedrunner comes in and fucking b-lines it to the exit while everyone else tries to fight, and the carnage is interrupted prematurely.Very unsatisfying.
>>12888119sounds just like quake multiplayer where you're lucky if 3 out of 8 people on the server know what they're doing (and every multiplayer game really)
>>12888119even as someone who barely plays anything but co-op games with bros outside of retro shooters I still can't imagine playing Doom/Quake in co-op. Even if you ignore the fact that absolute majority of the community maps is plain not designed with co-op in mind at-fucking-all, the maps that """can""" be played in co-op would still feel like shit. It's you-vs-the-world genre, kill-or-be-killed genre, yin-and-yang genre, spotlight-ballet-choreography-combat genre, overcome-everything-or-die-trying genre, the nanosecond you add another player to the equation the whole 30 years old status quo will fall apart into an incomprehensible mess that will make I-put-beautiful-Skate-into-Minecraft feel like a prime Tim Stellmach directed gameplay.
>>12888121Why are there so little active quakeworld servers btw?Quake 2 compared to that has pretty active deathmatch community, OpenTDM server has absolute monster players
>>12888119obviously 100% kills and secrets should be mandatory before you can end the level
>>12888034If we forget the politics and drama, farms is the shittiest community by the quality and amount of content they've managed to produce. One community project with 1994-quality maps despite it requiring gzdoom. It had cool and funny hub map, but that's about it. If farms managed to do something on quality level of /vr/, dw or db, I might respect it.If any community reigns supreme, it's Doom Power. They've had so many good releases this year.
>>12888148All I'm asking for is people to actually engage with the levels and also to let me enjoy the combat a little.>>12888149Never heard of DP. Who are they?
>>12888149The least obvious DP shill ever.
>>12888153It's the russian doom community.
>>12888156Yes, and?
The best Doom community is the small one you make with a few select friends, everything else sucks.
>>12888153>Never heard of DP. Who are they?The Russian Doom communityhttps://i.iddqd.ru/
>>12888163>tables based websiteSOVL
>>12888162Kind of going to the opposite extreme but it's not entirely wrong, there's a reason why most of the bigger Doom communities have fragmented off into smaller ones in recent years, even before there was significant drama and shit to explain it away.
Whoever the fuck wanted to play Corridor 7 in Doom is now able to.https://www.moddb.com/mods/corridoom
>>12888158Oh, they're like the main gathering point for Russian Doomers? Then I'm already familiar with work from there, like Eternal's, and Lainos is one of my favorite mappers period.
>>12888162That's vaguely what we're doing here.
>>12888209Who wanted this? Who asked for this? Who's interested in this? I went to check expecting AI slop but there's no mention of it. Are there people who care about Corridor 7?
>>12888219Someone must, the author at least did.If there was no AI usage then that means that was pure autism being wielded as a force for good.
>>12888209lmfao>>12888219Morbid fascination, perhaps.Plus, if you wanted to try to unfuck Corridor 7 and make it a decent game, starting from a GzDoom recreation would probably be a lot smoother and easier.
>>12888221I appreciate the fuck of that. Nobody else wanted it, but he did, and so he rolled up his sleeves and got to work doing it.
>>12888227Yeah. If this shit is legit, then I respect the hell out of it.
>>12888034fo' shizzl ma neighbizzl
>>12888221The madlad did the original hud and all the bells and whistles too, apparently he's debating doing the hit chance from the original as well, going from the comments.His autism is strong.
>>12888235Nature is healing.
>>12888219>I went to check expecting AI slopWhy would there be AI shit? The assets have been dumped for decades.
>>12888249Because as of late there's been a stint of people just bashing games together using that vibecoding AI tool and going I PUT MARIO INTO ELDEN RING or I MADE DIABLO FIRST PERSON???So there's a non-zero chance of of some peckerhead vibecoding Corridor 7 into Doom.
>>12888224>Plus, if you wanted to try to unfuck Corridor 7 and make it a decent game, starting from a GzDoom recreation would probably be a lot smoother and easier.It at least makes more sense than Impie doing Nerves of Steel in Doom.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdBk1TpBZak
>>12888262Well, Impie is a one of a kind sort of guy.
>>12888227>>12888235By God, now more than ever, people must do this, otherwise what point is there?I'm going to download the Corridor Fucking 7 TC right now and immerse myself in the funhouse version of 1994's best in game development.>>12888262I liked the mod he did with all the hot gun-toting lesbians.
>>12888270He's recently been on a spate of sequels to older mods, mostly focusing on Dirty Pair.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzfO5_XebW0
Awesome, I died in the third room.
>>12888298Hardware rendering and dynamic lights somehow makes it look even cheaper. But yes, Corridor 7 is kind of a shit game.
>>12888158>Slav trash>goodLol lmao even
>>12888298Accurate to the game, it even has the fucking awful minimap.
>hazards you can only see with the infrared visor with a limited battery that blinds you to everything elseNow THIS was gaming.
>>12888387>Now THIS was gaming.You could even say it was the pinnacle of entertainment.
>>12888417One might even say that the game is the capstone of software.
>>12888387What were people saying about this game when it even came out and most likely fucking bombed? Did Capstone just think FPS = big money just because Doom and Wolfenstein were successes?
>>12888468>What were people saying about this game when it even came out and most likely fucking bombed?Very little, Doom clones were all over the place and this kind of shit barely made a splash.>Did Capstone just think FPS = big money just because Doom and Wolfenstein were successes?Pretty much, they were even doing shit like tracing Doom sprites.
>>12888491Can only imagine what little gaming 'zines that probably advertised their pieces of shit were even coming up with to make it sound cooler than Doom.
>>12888503I don't think they were advertising it much really, it came out in 94 and a lot of good shit came out that year.
>>12888219It always had a following in the older era for the space horror vibes.Though you wouldn't find any of the people that are into Wolf clones (and mods) in a Doom thread.
>>12888387Yes, unironically.Old school adventure / RPG elements are amazing and I'm tired to pretend otherwise.Too bad both genres lost their soul over time. At least we got System Shock 1 and I guess Cybermage out of it.
>>12888324Yeah nigguh, unironically, Lainos and Eternal are genuinely very good at what they do.
I'm in danger
>>12888547I kind of get you, but there's SO much better ways to do that sort of gameplay than goddamn Corridor 7.
Felt like adding a sort of easter egg weapon to the next Phobos Delta update.It's a carbine that uses the same ammo as the regular rifle, but deals considerably lower damage and holds less ammo. On the upside: it doesn't alert monsters.It really exists so you can be sneaky and that's about it.Currently thinking I'll make it a rare drop from backpacks.
>>12888324NTA, but this year I played through Vogel im Käfig, 32 Inch Nails, and No Time 2 Freeze, and on the whole Russian wads have been fun to play and felt ambitious.There are definitely conventions that Western wad authors feel obligated to follow in order to be 'taken seriously', and at the very least experiencing a different region's style guide can change the atmosphere of Doom.
>>12888592Sure, I'm not really a fan of Corridor 7 myself (probably my least favourite FPS by Capstone). I do see the vision and appreciate the attempt though.
I also have the Hispanic Community Project, the Polish Community Project, 30 Years With Doom (another Russian wad heh) and the end of Necromantic Thirst which I'll probably never finish on UV because it's too mean.Has there been any news of JPCP2?
>>12888603I think a suppressed weapon is just what PD needs, but I think the sprites could use an edit to give it a visible suppressor. Is it referencing something as an easter egg, or is it just a rare bonus weapon?
Ow.
>>12888691what wad? that looks cool
i cannot stand the fucking zombie noises for project brutality. is there any mod that fixes these? im tired of the endless human speaking and screaming. if there isnt, ill drop this fucking turd of a mod. i miss the pre 3.0 versions. the sounds werent so bad.
>>12888624It'll get one, I'm just getting the code done ahead of time since spriting is just as hard if not harder for me.It's referencing a gun I drew a long time ago, really, plus I do intend to make it something you won't find very often at all.
>>12888703Our very own Ad Mortem.It is cool.https://www.doomworld.com/vb/thread/125461
>>12888713Alright, cool. Dying to finally play this thing even if it means restarting my own current Rampancy playthrough.
I love Pvt Stone and beating Sunlust with her is a blast.
I am missing armor and ammo hud icons in copper. Any ideas?
>>12888772Missing gfx.wad or gfx folder in pak? I wouldn't think Copper would have new icons though.
>>12888783Definitely some gfx.wad fuxery >thanks< for pointing it out!Just wondering, is any id1 map also playable in copper?
>>12888802Any vanilla maps are playable in any mod - the exception being FULL total conversions like Malice.
>open up Youtube>see Japanese short about the BossBrain voice line>Japs all think it's really funny
>>12888716It should be out by Thursday. At least most of the time I've spent on this lately was just documenting changes and updating credits, while the carbine itself took me maybe 2-3 hours total to get to a point I'd consider done.I think I'm getting better at this.I also think I should make it a tad stronger. Two mags for a hellknight equivalent seems a bit much.
>>12885402[10-20] Corridor 7 recreation in GZDoom enginehttps://www.moddb.com/mods/corridoom
>>12888851Snazzy reload.>I should make it a tad stronger.I'd vouch for that too. It's technically using the same ammunition as the actual heavy assault rifle after all.
>>12888705Just copy the sounds and appropriate lines in the sndinfo from the old one.
>>12888850Perhaps they aren't poisoned with negativity as most of the 4chan.>>12888856Which make me think, how do they actually pronounce GZDoom? Gyoza Doom?
Why did they make it a yellow key instead of a green key...
>>12888892Fragport replaces the yellow keys with green keys for absolutely no reason. It messes up compatibility with a lot of gameplay mods that replace keys, too.
>>12888894>Why did they make it a yellow key instead of a green key...For this meme >>12885771
>>12888892I assume because red, blue and yellow are the 3 primary colours.
>>12888894How does it fuck compat? Wouldn't it just be reskinning the yellow key?
>>12888906No idea how it does it, maybe it's how archaic its dehacked patch is, but it moreso just depends on the mod.>Brutal Doom: no problem.>Netronian Chaos: green keycard sprite is not replaced, yet is shrunk to the sizes of the red and blue keycards.>MetaDoom: green keycard is straight up invisible.
>>12888906Depends on how you go about it, some change the sprite and then change the text with dehacked or language stuff, some fuck with shit like lockdefs, which can get pretty fucky compatibilitywise.
>>12888896But RGB?
>One week since it happened>No one mentioning Oversaturation UV-Max being completedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_twYERCUHI
>>12888892before the invention of computer screens there was a common misconception that red, yellow, and blue were the primary colors of the spectrum, because of cymk printingnow that everyone has a screen they go off the wavelengths of light instead which is how the human eye and science works
Stupid fucking jumping puzzle took me longer than Nihilanth did.Eventually just quicksaved after every jump.Fuck you Nihilanth.
>>12888856So this is what's considered newsworthy now.Glad to know that that this general's in such a downward spiral.
>>12888881>how do they actually pronounce GZDoom?Jizzy Doom
>>12888920HOLY SHIT! OVERSATURATION GOT UV-MAXED!There, you happy?
>>12888962>So this is what's considered newsworthy now.A bit of a shark jump since it’s only a tag of the newspost and didn’t make it in yet, though if it makes you feel better mm8dm is in the newspost :)
*Duke born to be wild voice*I zapped the Shambler but I didn't splat the Tar baby-hy!>>12888962>to know that that this general's in such aswallow the bile before posting otherwise > hickups :)
>>12888894fragport more like FAGport lmao
>>12888976Anon's so desperate to be miserable he couldn't even wait till the next thread.
>>12888879im not going to that much effort. ill just quit playing it :)
Someone had a tanty :)fuck troonworld, the Farms lives forever
>>12889009Farms are already dead in context of Doom. Your last and only community project was 2 years ago.
>>12888962>retro first person shooter gets re-created in Doom source port>this is somehow not newsworthy in retro first person shooter general that centers around DoomAre you retarded?
>>12889035>Bottom-of-the-barrel shooter that no one gives a shit about got remade in GZDoom>This is somehow newsworthyHope you maintain that same attitude when someone remakes Isle of the Dead in GZDoom.
>>12889035Not only that, it's been fairly faithfully recreated in a port where the one big feature is modability, so it's way easier to make it a less shit experience.>>12889043>when someone remakes Isle of the Dead in GZDoom.Already been done.
>>12885401Would this be the thread to discuss Shadow Warrior?
>>12889054>Retro FPS threadNo it's not.
>>12889043right? we need more sloptuber and speedrunner shit in the newsworthy
Beat the "final" chapter of Blood. the one before post mortem.Gotta say the Chernobog was kinda underwhelming, even on pre-last difficulty.I had barely any ammo left and it was all for weaker weapons and assumed that it was some puzzle to figure out since the level is called Hall of Epiphany. But nah he just died lol.First chapter is definitely the hardest of the first four, by a mile. Started post mortem.
>>12888962Not only that but they'll add this shit to the news while completely ignoring a new "so you wanna play doom" infographic for the cardinal sin of containing megaman 8bit deathmatch in it.
>>12889054The Build Engine one from the 90s yes, not any of the others.
>>12889061i thought we respect speedrunners here and are isolated from that anti-speedrun crap that's plagued /vg/ foreverdoom isn't some game you can just glitch warp through 99% of the game you actually have to rip and tear huge guts and we do a speedrun challenge in every thread
>>12889057>>12889067Sooo...maybe? I was just wondering because there's a lot of games listed in the OP but Shadow Warrior isn't one of them.
>>12889069Yes? It's a first person shooter from the 90s, on the Build engine and all. We have not just Duke Nukem, but Spook Nukem and Gook Nukem it's kind of a fabled trifecta.
>>12889064I don't see much wrong with using the newer one, but I also don't see much wrong in ignoring it since it's only three new entries near the end of the image.>>12889069>Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etcYeah it's fine. What do you want to talk about with SW, by the way?
>>12889073>>12889081Ok, cool. That's good to know.>What do you want to talk about with SW, by the way?I actually didn't have anything I wanted to talk about, I didn't prepare anything because I thought the answer would be no. I'm also not a fan of the game.
>>12889086Well, alright then. But yes, 90s and 2000s FPS shooter games.
>>12889096That's cool. If I ever get around to playing I'll come talk about here in the Doom/Retro FPS thread.>2000sDoes that include games like Red Faction 2 or Time Splitters 2 or XIII?
all of you faggots need banned. post doom, or fuck off.
>>12889131
>>12889128Only games that came out as late as December 2007.
>>12889128Technically, the cutoff is released before December 07 right now I think.
>>12889131Judging by the replies to >>12885543, at best most people here only tried Sunlust or Eviternity, barely anyone cares about /vr/ wads. That's my very subjective impression though.
>>12889145/vr/ wads do deserve more love, i agree.
>>12889131>all of you faggots need bannedNice command of the English language Ranjesh! Hope to see you in the Great White North!
>>12889145I didn't mention any mappers from here because it kinda felt like it would be self-promotion, but if I'd pick 5 named multiple-time contributors out of here, I'd say Brxyz, Hardpeeled, GuyWithTeacup, WashingMachineEnthusiasts, and A2Rob. These were tough choices to make because I had to leave people out.
>>12889145I like a lot of our wads, but when asked for wad authors, most people aren't usually going to think of community projects first.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_x66USzRHc
>>12889156>WashingMachineEnthusiasts>GuyWithTeacupWhat are their best maps?
>>12889156>WashingMachineEnthusiastsI still think he did the most fun icon of sin map I've played in a fucking long time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmHXQdK0hy8
>>12889131yeah surelately i've uninstalled all my lighting and texture mods and been fucking with vid_saturation and vid_gamma instead. how does it look?
>>12889159>GuyWithTeacupHis map for Sub Mortem was pretty good. Overall, I don't think he got enough contributions so that I could choose.
here's a shot of satan too for another reference pointmy crt when i was a kid i had the saturation and brightness cranked really high and i wanted to go back to that
wrong imageis it too cartoony for doom or does it look goodi'm really sick of everything being grey in gaming these days so i wanted a nice bright demon killing experience
>>12889138>>12889139if course that means Painkiller and F.E.A.R count as retro now.
>>12889162Tweaking the saturation a little is one of the ways I've found to enhance Doom's visuals. I guess it also has a big practical sense when you play with the small screen.>>12889145>/vr/ authorsI couldn't let go and progress further after I reached MAP32 of 512 Linedefs. That was some art-transcending shit there, replayed it over a dozen of times and stopped touching Doom for years. I still fight memories of it, knowing that there's nothing better, else I would abandon Doom once again and won't recover.
>>12889138>>12889139Ok, I'm aware of the board rules and software cut off date but I wasn't sure if it would be a faux paus to discuss something that's so similar to modern FPS games.
>>12889191the small screen doesn't get to me. i have a lot of health problems but my eyes are good. i actually just realized something else that's been seriously fucking me over - if you set m_sensitivity_y to 0 it's way less reliable than if you disable vertical mouselook in the zdoom settings. didn't realize how badly i was fucking myself over until i was dicking around on map30 today and it's like wow my autoaim actually works
>>12889194>but I wasn't sure if it would be a faux paus to discuss something that's so similar to modern FPS games.So long as you're not bringing up faux-retro crap that's usually running on Unity or some shit you're probably fine.Anything in an old engine like Rekkr or Hedon or Ion Maiden is cool though.
>>12889162>how does it look?Doomguy looks like he has jaundiceI've always found that increasing saturation makes things look weird in pretty much all gamesTweaking gamma is a better way to make colors a bit less washed out without looking too weird, with the only downside being that it makes things darker
>>12889214well i increased the gamma quite a bit from default so i increased the saturation to avoid the washed out color effect (exact opposite effect you discussed)i have my phone brightness pretty low but when i play doom it's a blinding max brightness led screen so maybe it's my phone's screen doesn't have good color saturation
>>12889221>exact opposite effect you discussedBecause you increased the gamma instead of lowering it
I single segmented Maelstrom, please respondThis final fight isn't the hardest in the map, but god damn is it stressful
>>12889191>art-transcending>picrelidgimeanwhile:>anon is given 512 lines to do what he wants>only uses a miserable fraction of that for a likewise miserable resultlooks like his first ever done map
>>12889365Whatever man, like, you just DON'T GET IT
SERIOUS SAM IS BACKIN THIRD ENCOUNTER FORM
I played doom 3 during the shutdownIts not a doom game at all but I think I really like it
>>12889498>it's realwhat the fuck?
>>12889498now this is getting serious
>>12889503>not a doom gameIt's not Doom 1 or 2 but I don't know if that makes it "not doom".
I started mapping for quake. My map kinda sucks but it werks and I'm making good progress. Dumptrucks first video really helps out a lot. I haven't made any doors or triggers or anything yet, just building stuff but this is so fucking cool and I feel like a badass. I feel like I can wear fingerless gloves now.
>>12889509maybe it gets more doomy later but having to choose between seeing anything at all or being able to shoot makes it a very different game imoThen I read they changed that in the bfg edition which is awful because this is my favorite aspect of the game
>>12889510>I feel like I can wear fingerless gloves now.Just stay away from suspiciously long, striped socks. Quake mapping seems to correlate with an affinity for those...
>>12889503i played map30 and various levels of doom 1 on -fast while testing my new graphics settingsit turns out the command is vid_fixgamma and not what i was using, and my doomguy doesn't have jaundice. now that the image calibration settings are saving correctly, the game looks like thismap30 on -fast is nuts. i've beaten it like one time out of the 30 or so runs i did while the site was down. i need to get the timing of how to kill romerohead with a bfg down
Skaarj fucked with the wrong Prisoner 849
>>12889517>maybe it gets more doomy later but having to choose between seeing anything at all or being able to shoot makes it a very different game imoMost encounters make it comfortable to shoot at them without the flashlight. Enemy sound and visual design helps with that a lot.
>>12889546damn metroid prime if it was good?
>>12889531So it would seem. Fortunately I have enough real problems in my life I don't have to play pretend or make things up for special treatment and attention.
It's time for Wednesday Night Wipeout!Come play some SRB2Kart!How to join:Download version 1.6 of the game: https://github.com/STJr/Kart-Public/releases/download/v1.6/srb2kart-v16-Installer.exeGet the custom client we use: https://codeberg.org/NepDisk/srb2k-neptune/releases/tag/Neptune2.5.1Get the mods either automatically in-game or at: https://macgu.fun/repo/srb2kart/Connect to macgu.fun (either use connect in console or "specify ipv4 address" under Multiplayer)>I HAVE TO BITCH FAST AND TEXT CHAT TOO SLOWWe also have a Mumble server!Address: 51.161.34.159Port: defaultPassword: endoom>I heard this game supports proximity chat, are we using that?No.Pro tips: https://pastebin.com/YV6biqxq(This is out of date and written for a different server, but it still has a lot of useful information.)
>>12889498>Not a third-party spin-off.>Not an SS4 expansion pack.>Not a prequel to SS4.>Not a sequel to SS2.>It's called "The Third Encounter."I'm fucking dreaming, right?
>>12889498Not retro, unfortunately.
Ahh, we're back. I've been busy tweaking Hellbabe.I figured how to make footstep noises change based on inventory items so I can have metal stompy noises play when using the mech or power loader, and prevent them when kicking or using the bike. Also switched kicking over to Zoom and put throwing grenades on altfire for most weapons, so I figured a grenade indicator would be helpful.
Also made the kill ability usable without the timer, but it takes twice as long to charge up, along with a cvar for an alternate mode that gives berserk and double firing speed instead. The fact that this basically makes her Stone-lite was an accident.
I've just been learning Zscript using DavidXNewton's tutorial to try making my own squadmates with abilities + cooldowns - then eventually make custom enemies with protections + abilities too. I don't think I could do this in decorate/acs and have the ability to quickly control two of them with mouse + context sensitive keyboard commands but those are much much easier to use for making custom enemies.
What's a good slaughterish map/mapset to test companions on that isn't Nuts? Something where I could get a feel for how many enemies I could have fighting/infighting without the FPS dipping below 60 whilst having two squadmates following my orders? And preferrably with map design that feels Build engine ish? Not open but detailed.
>>12889601GGs
oh man, i'm late to the party on lvlworldguess i'm not playing much doom for a while. i figured out how to get weaponstay working in cpma and now ffa with the bots is legiti've been trying to define a custom gametype though and for some reason ai slop is just hallucinating how to do it, and i can't find a good guide on how to do it either. i want to rework the MG by making it a lower ROF that does more damage so you don't run out of ammo in 2 seconds off spawn. if anyone knows how to set this up or can point me towards a tutorial it would help a lot
>>12889997Are any of these custom Quake 3 maps actually played, ever?I mean, I've been seeing screenshots of all sorts of beautiful Quake 3 maps that people have made for years, but every time I boot up the game and find a server with actual players it's the same fucking vanilla shit over and over again.
>>12890004only in quakeworld did people ever man up and play new/experimental maps. i miss the mid '00s there were so many cool maps i don't even remember half their names, but some of them were old ass maps made in the 90s that were undiscovered gems, and a few of them were actually made by friends from irc, so i was really happy that i was able to play people on these maps i used to play bots with all the timequake live has a lot of new clan arena maps since the game went to the community, but they're all remixes of other maps mostlyi've basically come full circle to when i was 15 years old where i spend tons of time looking for custom maps and just play bots cause no one else wants to. at least the cpma bots can beat me without feeling overly cheap like nightmare xaero. i hear there are some really strong qw bots but i haven't messed with it
>>12890010I blame autistic compfags and the fact that Quake 3 catered to them pretty much exclusively. All the people who just wanted whacky fun shooter gameplay and were willing to try any new map that facilitated that either stayed with Quake 1/2 or went to Unreal Tournament.
>>12890015actually autistic compfags in quakeworld were the ones pushing new maps cause they were really heavy on necessary trickjumps to get anywherei'm an autistic compfag that got old and sucks now (can't time items or aim hitscan for shit though apparently my rockets are still fine) please show some respectalso preacher and ztn used to be my friends so i'm glad their maps got driven into the ground. a good map is a good map and will work well in any fps gamei blame the death of arena fps on people like you who need to "experiment" or "just want to have fun" ie shit up pub matches and get callvote kicked. kids these days just want to play carebare fps and not games of skill, so i don't think the genre is gonna see a resurgence in my lifetime, but i think eventually people will realize quake is not just a game, it's a sport, kinda like how chess keeps making comebacks over the millenia
>>12889642>>Not a sequel to SS2.They seem to be entirely cutting that out of canon, given the talk about "the story finally moves forward" and "one last showdown with Mental".
>>12890023>but i think eventually people will realize quake is not just a game, it's a sport, kinda like how chess keeps making comebacks over the milleniaThat’s a strange equivalence since I’m under the impression that Chess is still heavily played across the globe. I’d be surprised if the ‘daily’ players from Quakelive, Q3 and Champions combined reaches over a thousand players, or even five hundred.
>>12890078>I’d be surprised if the ‘daily’ players from Quakelive, Q3 and Champions combined reaches over a thousand players, or even five hundred.30-day average on Steam Charts gives 494 for QC, QL, Q3, and Q3TA. Include all the people not playing Steam copies of the older games and it should be over 500 comfortably.QL is still the most-played Quake game on Steam, Q1 and Q2 have dropped right back off. https://steamcharts.com/search/?q=quake
>>12890078Yeah, Chess never really went anywhere. Quake was probably more popular than Chess at its height, but these days I'm sure Chess sees more daily play, professional or not, than all Quake play combined.
>>12890078yeah, chess is experiencing a resurgence. it happens every few hundred years or so. the game started gaining huge numbers during covid and hasn't fallen off yet. chess was also extremely popular in the 1960s and also in the mid 1800s when steam boats were inventedi think either one of two things need to happen - quake 3 has to hit the public domain completely and then suddenly openarena will be useful, and/or a new quake multiplayer from id software comes out that has proper tutorials and game modes and settings out of the box. like one thing modern quake can do is ride that battle royale shit but do it the quake way with 100 player deathmatch in the style of sewer64/base64 or the silly fuckhuge clan arena maps they use now and none of that random loot garbage. maybe let you select a zone of 5-6 spawn points to spawn in instead of do dropping garbage. clan arena works well in 15v15 and i think it could go even bigger with good mapsyou need to get new players into noob modes like ffa and ca and instagib before they can start playing the pro modes like duel ctf and tdm and that's how quake champions fucked it up for everyone
>>12890097I can't imagine any time where Chess has been easily available to the public and where it hasn't had at least a constant low buzz presence with the nerds of the world, it's ingrained in culture, easy to understand and play (while having a retardedly high skill ceiling if you really want to take it there), and in this digital world, it's an easy public domain game to make and put on any device for cheap/free.Basic but mildly entertaining staple.
>>12890103quake is actually a really simple gamei would say the complexity of the weapons and items is about as difficult to understand as chess rules on piece movement and checkmate/stalemate, and strafe jumping is probably as complicated as like castling and en passant, but the tactics, strategy, and mechanics behind quake are really something elsemost of getting into quake is the physical act of learning to play, improving aim and movement. the thing about the game is a very small skill differential results in assrape and that turns off casuals who just want partipication trophies or somethingi decided to play an aerowalk duel before i went to sleep and got my ass beat but i had a good time. the best i was doing i was only down 3 frags but i had to get aggressive when the clock was running out and it didn't work. i don't think anarki got a SINGLE ra unless he spawned on it so my control was good but my aim was poor
>>128855246:47 https://files.catbox.moe/mgjdqf.lmppretty annoying map to run but wad is looking great, wanna play through it
>>12890094yeah but who plays Q1, Q2, Q3 on steam
>>12890142I do sometimes when my kids don't wanna play multiplayer co-op.
Oh my, Quake's Rooftop Jam looks good. Being Slipseer I assumed it would just be the usual Copper fare, but it actually uses AD and from what I've seen some of the maps look quite pretty. I'll give it a go once I'm done with Eviternity 2.
>>12890097>noob modes like [...] ca and instagib>pro modes like [...] tdm>TDM is DM but now you have friends to help you>CA is TDM without any possibility of bugging out when a firefight goes south to try and recover resources>instagib for noobs consists of repeatedly getting deleted by people you never see because they spotted three pixels of your asscheek through a windowWhat manner of mental disorder is this?
>>12890175clearly you never played tdm before it requires intense comms, sharing resources, and feeding your best player the quad and all the major items so he can backpack you. it's normally only played in pickups not pub servers. i tried to run a quake live tdm server back in the '10s and it was just a flash in the plan, only lasted about 3 months before the novelty wore off. there really aren't enough weapons to go around for most people.instagib is for brainless third worlders, always has beenca is probably the least noob of the noob modes but even diehard ca players admit duels take more skillwhat manner of scrub disorder do you have? i don't know what glickos are like now and i can't play well anymore but before i quit i was 1500 rated CA and people were afraid of me when i joined, got gangbanged a lot. even i admit CA is the noob mode
but let me clarify one thing. CA is a NECESSARY noob mode and id software's refusal to include it in quake 4 and quake champions because they just figured if it wasn't there people would play other modes was stupid. CA is a really good intro mode to arena fps, most people never graduate past it (because most people are really bad) and that's totally finei used to duel when i was in my 20s, in my 30s i switched to clan arena because the scene was dying, and now in my 40s i really suck and just play ffa botsi wish one of those studios trying to reboot fps would focus on clan arena as the core gamemode to balance around and have the other modes like duel and ctf be the afterthoughts instead. tdm, i'm not sure how to fix it without giving you armor or a strong gun off spawn, most people will never drop you a shotty when you really need it unless they know you and know you won't just giftwrap it to the other team
How do I find Q3 servers with humans and not bots?
Halloween is on the nose, baby. Send link to Sub Mortem to your favorite doom youtubers so that they would had something really nice spooky wads to play and not some myhouse.wad shit.
>>12890226>Send link to Sub Mortem to your favorite doom youtubersI think I'll go play some fucking video games instead.
>>12890226I honestly think Ad/Sub Mortem are fine Doom experiences but they fail to capture the fun and cheesy atmosphere of Halloween.They just play like Horror themed wads instead, and yes there's a difference. Halloween is goofy fun, while Horror is more serious and creepy. Just calling an enemy lord boner and having a joke enemy that's an annoying rocket on legs doesn't cut it.
>>12890142>yeah but who plays Q1, Q2, Q3 on steamI did over the summer for the achievements out of boredom.
I am constructing some machinery in my cad/cam software for use as a brush/entity in trenchbroom. I was wondering if anyone could tell me in imperial measurements how large the footprint of my lathe should be if I have say, a 6" chuck. Just a mid-sized machine that a grunt could stand at. I'm sure that STL files already exist for this type of thing but I want to make my own and I want it to look proportional.
>>12890226>favorite >youtubersThe only ones I like(and I'm listening nit watching really because I'm working) are zac rios and jason carpenter. Why would I watch some fag play video games when I could be playing video games instead?
hey guys, i decided to make my cpm botmatches a little more interesting and add a diverse range of skill levels to the bots to replicate the pubstomping while getting pubstomped yourself experiencei made a checkbox strawpoll. the top 7 will be the bots i use ranked by skill in order how many votes they get. whoever gets 1st place is gonna be 100 skill bot and whoever gets 7th will be like 30-40 (i'll have to tinker with the range)https://strawpoll.com/B2ZB9k5KAgJi don't remember the weapon preferences of the bots beyond xaero being a rail whore so i figure i'll just leave it to this thread to decide what bots i fightmy goal is to play an ffa on every single cpm map (i think there's about 30) then start playing lesser known maps from lvlworld that can handle 8 player ffathanks for voting in my poll
>>12890279>Why would I watch some fag play video games when I could be playing video games instead?"Why would I watch football when I can kick a ball around in my backyard?"
>>12890226Only one I really like is Clippy, and it'd be way more interesting if he lands on Ad Mortem by himself.
>>12890286Yes. Watching sports is gay unless you have a family member in the game.
Why are all of GamingGargoyle's videos pure kino?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-FYgTtqxYM
>>12890295Love this guy's videos. The stupid GAME RELEASED jingle lives rent free in my head.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zolP4BECQXA
Any anons working on a WAD that they'd like playtested? I'd be happy to be your guinea pig.
>>12890336This is John Romero. Hope you are doing well. You can test Hellion. But first you have to kneel down and drink my knob. I'm gonna make you my bitch.Also, fuck REKKR.
>>12890292Watching gay porn is straight.
>>12890295Speaking of his latest video, for your reaction image needs:
>>12890347>Revae's about to make Romero his bitch
>>12889209weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>12890409>>12890356
Coolest trend in vidya graphics ever: Explosions with skulls in them.
>>12890238Ask me how I know that you have never actually played Ad Mortem.
>>12890336How about a .bsp? I might drop it later tonight or tomorrow if you're interested in play testing muh first quake map
Some good Quake halloween map pack for the season?
>>12890238You definitely haven't played Ad Mortem.
>>12890274Here is my lathe so far.
>>12890423>>12890438You don't have to samefag. I heard you the first time and it absolutely doesn't work as a halloween wad.
>>12890238>I honestly think Ad/Sub Mortem are fine Doom experiences but they fail to capture the fun and cheesy atmosphere of Halloween.There's plenty of fun and cheesy moments and it works great as a Halloween mod for me, even if there are also lots of more 'spooky' themed moments.
>>12890409Dogshit sprites. not as impressive as having mp3 files in a wad. THAT is revolutionary.
>>12890559Halloween is srs business and not "goofy" like you stated in your offensive earlier comment, samefag or not
>>12890238>they fail to capture the fun and cheesy atmosphere of Halloween.Though it still has some content and silly maps in it, I'm glad it didn't. It would've been boring and forgettable if it had been just another cliche ass looking halloween mapset.
>>12890559You're still wrong.
>>12890576Don't forget the shootable Evil eyes! god, my mind was blown the first time I saw that... Deathmatch arenas per levels? just WOW...
>>12890576Not all of them were bad, I liked the gorilla skeleton
>>12890409:(
>>12890415That is beautiful. What is that?
>>12890623That's what he gets!
>>12890636He didn't even do anything wrong!Also man Revae if that's you I'm reminded of how good those portraits of my boys you drew are.
>>12890639It's a-me, Marevae.Thanks, I was pretty happy with them. Don't have a lot of time for this sort of thing atm. Hopefully I can find the will and way to do something cool in the future.Made a playdough dinosaur today...
>>12890623Who the fuck froze that gnome knight? That shit is rude.
>>12890642>Made a playdough dinosaur today...Nice, dinosaurs are cool as fuck.
>>12890645He locked himself in a freezer by accident...
Who would win: Rekkrguy or John Romero?
Bros I'm trying to play with killable kemonomimi daisy on my ancient T420 thinkpad. I can get Lzdoom going, but every time Daisy fires her weapon it crashes. How do I lobotomize her in a way that makes her vanilla friendly again? I notice that NeenerWiener's Duke and Doomguy companion work perfectly.
>>12890650John Rekkmero
>>12890651Fuck about with the actor or take the sprites and sounds and shove them over another companion mod.
>>12890654Damn ok. I was hoping there was something I could just open in notepad++ and comment out.
>>12890651>kemonomimi daisyStop masturbating you dege...>killableNevermind, carry on.
>>12890650more like kekkr haha XD
>>12890635The barrel from Ad Mortem.I assume Vaeros drew it.
>>12890707It's GREAT. I'd love a stand alone mod for just those barrels.
>>12890238not that I like defending /vr/ wads, but that's a fucking retarded take.It's like saying you should play spooktober instead because it was made by a serial pedophile.
>>12890650REKKRguy would slay the John Ogromero >>12890414
>>12890409
>>12890650John Romero said REKKR would be better if there was a brutal REKKR mod
>>12890274>>12890498The scaling of everything in Quake is mostly abstract bullshit, but people generally go with 32 units being equal to either 3 feet or 1 meter.
>>12890749Thank you, but what does this mean in relation to trenchbroom? Like a single block isn't "one unit" correct?
>>12890238It's not all light-hearted all the time, but it's not that serious either.They even let joe-ilya map, for goodness' sake.
>>12890764Or rather one block is 32 units?
>>12890764One 'block' is whatever grid size you have it set to.Set it to 32 and that's 32 units.
>>12890767>They even let joe-ilya map, for goodness' sake.And that was one of the most serious horror maps in the set, what do you mean.
>>12890771Thanks homie
Holy shit this map.The fights were very difficult and I can't see myself single segmenting this, but that set piece at the end where you use a battleship's main gun to nuke an army of cyberdemons was amazing.
To celebrate The Third Encounter teaser we got, I'm putting up a link to my mod that adds Sam 3 weapons and monsters to Doom. It's relatively close to release, and I'm mostly waiting on a guy to finish touching up enemy sprites, and maybe to do some optimization work as well. Deathmatch compatible as well, works on both Zandronum/Q-Zandronum and UZDoom.Please let me know if you encounter any issues, or if you have questionshttps://mega.nz/file/g7hmHCZa#IGF4HNKrL4bhOVOugGz6SlwAvt7Sw7FQdDTEY_YRHOM
>>12890767Probably his best map.>>12890776Really?
how's hexen+heretic remaster?new episodes any good?been thinking of replaying these + hexen 2
>>12890767didn't that 'famous' sloptuber faggot give that map an 'A' rating though? lmao
>>12890910he didn't score my map (MAP33) lowest when it's the weakest map in the set (in my opinion) so idk what the fuck he was on
>>12890910Who the fuck even cares? Ratings? SLOPTUBER RATINGS?!?!? Pffffft GAY AS HELL NIGGA
>>12890960If someone is willing to record themselves playing my map, I don't mind hearing their opinions on it. Might be stupid opinions, but input is input.
>>12885765Nope, but he lives in germany, and there is a chance a towelhead skewed him since he literally disappeared, plus there are no anons or people who knows him there.
>>12888920Fuck speedrunners.
>>12889031And half of /vr/ was banned because of one troll mod who put the full kf name as a banned word.Everyone got a 2 week special because of that.
>>12891000I didn't, it was a nice few weeks where the thread wasn't having some fuckwit try to shit it up every half a nhour.
>>12891002Sure subhuman sharteen
>>12890719literally who
>>12890963I'll concede that is different.>>12890995Agreed
>>12891028a pedophile tranny named Marisa from the zdoom community, he's currently running away from the police btw
>>12891039>Marisa from the zdoom communityAlso these threads, and kept showing up here even after that shit.
>>12890719nta, but I unironically enjoy Spooktober. Half the maps are shit, yeah, but it's fun and has the Halloween spirit. Even if only about four of the maps are any good.Ad Mortem is great and also Halloweeny, but it's too hard for my casual ass.
>>12891039sir, this is a doom thread. take your minor e-celeb drama someplace else
>>12891039>he's currently running away from the police btwlol what>>12891140i never got how talking about community happenings was off topic. i get that you don't want it derailing the entire thread into shitposting, but that feels like a different issue.
>>12891157>lol whatAnon's making shit up, that fuckup got away with it and just did a minor name change, fucker now pretends to be a deer and talks in the third person. >i never got how talking about community happenings was off topic. i get that you don't want it derailing the entire thread into shitposting, but that feels like a different issue.Most of the time it just ends up being bitching about Doomworld's drama or wherever, which has little to no relevance to here.
>>12891039>Halloween wad made by a pedophileThat's fucking gross, i'm deleting this shit.
>>12890838This was a lot of fun. Played up until Dead Simple and then played some Daylight District, everything fits the bill quite well indeed.Two things:>if you hold down altfire on the pistol, you'll fire without consuming any ammo>some of Sam's lines get cut off if you pick something up or shoot, likely they're on the same sound channel as the oher sounds
>>12890838Very neat
>>12890238U fuckin wot m8?
>>12890023>i blame the death of arena fps on people like you who need to "experiment" or "just want to have fun" ie shit up pub matches and get callvote kicked.Seemed that Arena FPS started to disappear about when RTS games started dying out. Neither translated too well into the seventh gen console boom.
>>12891098>but it's too hard for my casual assBy brother in Cacodemon, just play on HMP.
>>12891248It wasn't about Arena FPS, every single shooter had to ape COD at the time.And RTS died because retards saw SC2 and MOBAs (neither of which got anything to do with consoles) and decided that it's the only way forward, when people just wanted a good single player.
>>12890141I thought it strange how you didn't pick up the bfg- I mean grog bomb until very late in the map. Yeah, this wad looks really good and unique. It clearly took a lot of creativity and effort to extend the idea of "pirate doom" to 32 levels while still keeping things varied.
>>12891287>good single playerThis. Multiplayer is fun but single player is needed. Also people stopped playing Starcraft because of the autistic koreans.
>>12890186>it requires intense comms, sharing resources, and feeding your best player the quad and all the major items so he can backpack you.>people must play the mode in the most sweaty, hyper-optimised esports faggot style possible at all times, it is inconceivable that it could be played in different ways depending on the skill level of the participantsI think I understand why you struggle to attract or retain newbies.
>>12891307I basically followed same route as when I did it blind first, so mb worth a rerun. I wish there was some competition in the challenges, it's more fun that way>>12889498I only played this game a bit as a child. Is First Encounter playable natively on Linux btw? Source ports?
>>12890431nta but i'd like to play that too
Phobos Delta will be updated tomorrow, then I'll fuck off and hibernate for a while. Kinda want to turn Atonement into something less complicated though, not every mod needs or benefits from reloading.>>12891473Yeah, arena shooters suffer the most because of the kind of people they attract. I liked playing TDM on Q3 well over 17 years ago, at some point people stopped playing the game and began optimizing strategies.Starsiege Tribes seems to be less affected by this. I recall having a good enough time with it back when its browser port was released.
>>12891473the whole point of a multiplayer game is to winin my whole career shitposting on 4chan no one has ever come up with a solid argument against this without admitting they're just really bad at the game and "just want to have fun"if you "just want to have fun" ffa is the mode for you cause no one is gonna care if you drop a -1/30 bomb, on tdm you're shitting up other people's experiences>>12891485not going to dispute this. people who play arena shooters are obsessed with winning and nothing else, but that's why the genre is good. there's very little RNG and it's all skill based
>>12891489>the whole point of a multiplayer game is to winGotta be fun, too, and it’s hard to make it ‘fun’ while a player is still sucking and losing.
i miss the Friday Night Firefights
>>12891480>I wish there was some competition in the challengesI try not to submit more than one demo per challenge, including my own, since it feels kinda pointless to win something you devised yourself. I also don't have the time for competitive speedrunning these days, but here's a mild time improvement. I just generally tried to reduce meandering/backtracking and tried to use the bfgrog bomb more.https://files.catbox.moe/28mtle.lmp
>>12885401>metadoom>no metarekkr
>>12887201>Not manipulating the monster seeking behaviour and understanding the flow of RNGIt is the skill issue alright. You should only spend three rockets at max.
>>12887201>>12891602I would have just chaingunned the skeleton
>>12887201As timeless as Doom is, vertical aiming and infinitely tall flying demons bodyblocking you from the stratosphere are two utterly horrible game mechanics.
>>12891209Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated!I'll check out the pistol issue, haven't had that reported yet, and for the voice lines, yeah, I'll just change the sound channel.If anyone is willing, we could also make a deathmatch session to see if the balancing is okay, I mostly just slapped damage values around
>>12891612There's good reason why that didn't carry over to later shooters, but +80% of the time, this just doesn't hinder Doom's gameplay.
>>12891612>vertical aiming and infinitely tall flying demons>two utterly horrible game mechanics>t. pissed myself at the very first imp in e1m1 and got killed dozens of times in cacodemon room from map08
>>12891635Anon, are you seriously telling me it isn't annoying when you waste rockets shooting up at a revenant turret only for several to inexplicably ignore them and act like nothing is there?Or die because a group of lost souls are so high you can't see them but this still stops you from avoiding a lethal hit?Your attempt at trivialising someone's complaints about actually shit game mechanics just makes YOU look like the retard.
>>12891661>Your attempt at trivialising someone's complaints about actually shit game mechanics just makes YOU look like the retard.Common internet tactic. That and I feel like it happens often with stupid people with the mindset of "It never happened to me, so it's not actually a problem."Or he could just be acting retarded to get a rise out of people, it's hard to tell nowadays.
>>12891635*forces u to fight on a flight of stairs with a rocket launcher*nuffin personnel, tuff guy
>>12891635I was once a witness to some random zoomie's twitch stream where he spent minutes bitching how id software were too stupid to know what they were doing, and then kept asking how to enable the freelook. He couldn't physically bring himself to press the mouse button, game was too awkward and archaic. Modern kids are too fussy and see problems in everything.
>>12891661I don't really get that problem very often at all, I'm just in tune with the auto-aim at this point. I don't say that as a big time purist, either, probably 75% of all my Dooming in my lifetime has been with GzDoom, freelook, and mods.It's just a matter of getting a feel for it, both are as natural as breathing to me.>>12891671Not any of these people, but:>"It never happened to me, so it's not actually a problem."Or maybe you struggle with some of that at first, but you just get used to it so it feels natural.Like, the one thing where I really see these limits being too annoying is if you're dealing a lot of flying enemies waaay up in the sky in a large open arena (and cacos bite fucking hard, lemme tell ya), in which case, yeah, that'd be annoying because then you can't even let auto-aim help you, but personally, few maps I play are like that.
>>12891684Eat shit. I've been playing since the 90s and find those things a slight annoyance.
>>12891707And I've been playing since the 90s and rarely find them to be. Situationally, but rarely.
>>12891716Ok? So you agree there are situations where it's annoying, so why look down your nose at people who point it out?
>>12891732I don't particularly.
>>12891706For me, lack of freelook and infinitely tall monsters tend to combine into a very cool>there's a gangrape awaiting you at the bottom of a dropdown that you can't do anything about outside of praying that monsters somehow leavesituation quite frequently
>>12891680Relax, guy. Supposedly this is good game design now.
>>12891735I suppose that one happens at times, though I'd blame the level design for that.
>>12891706>if you're dealing a lot of flying enemies waaay up in the skyVery few mappers are talented enough to handle verticality in general. What you're describing makes me think of cushy amateurs who are unable take any bit of criticism. You shouldn't use ceilings much higher than 256 for a serviceable map, and especially not place flying enemies where your eyes can't see. Skulls and demons descend into your field of view on their own, unless the mapper actively prevents them.
>>12891742>You shouldn't use ceilings much higher than 256 for a serviceable mapUnless you're dealing with letting loose a lot of flying enemies from up high, this reallty isn't a problem. For ground enemies, extra tall ceilings don't mean anything at all.
>>12891680Hey I liked that level of going down
>>12891680I think you should learn to aim better. If it's close and you can see it, then you can hit it.
It's a good thing we have freelook and can play the game how you want so we don't have to complain about how the game was originally designed anymore.
>>12890776Modern Doom gameplay is basically anti-horror by design.Joe's map was a modern Doom map (complete with max-lit slaughter arena) and is no exception. It's also fairly colorful and environmentally varied.As an aside, it's funny that they were singled out as an annoying joke enemy when hearing those fucking rockets rattling after me is the one thing in Ad Mortem that actually raises my pulse.
>>12891754>.wad is named Going Down>has levels where you go up
>>12891851Before you go down you must go up, and one of those levels is a secret level and it is also necessary for properly answering doommum's phone calls (almost as important as killing demons).
>>12890141>>128855245:37 https://files.catbox.moe/93779d.lmp
>>12891851>.wad is called Going Down>not a single act of fellatio or cunnilingus
>>12891482Keep an eye out, I'm going to add a few more rooms tonight because it's pretty small but I'll post it by tomorrow morning. Definitely interested in any feedback or criticism concerningmy layout but there is not going to be any moving doors or keys or anything yet because I haven't learned how to do that. And no vores. I hate those guys.
>>12891768>out walking dog on cold and dark fall night>swear that I heard a familiar clattering noise from within the woods>we stop, I turn, dog looks up at me worried>do a 360 and moonwalk back>hear it again, sounds closer this time>moonwalk faster>hurry back home and lock the door>shut all window blinds and barricade the door>hear the repeated clattering noise right outside my door>hide underneath bed with dog and grampa's old fowler
>>12891905Also any suggestions for tech base type furniture/decorations? I'm trying to make a machine shop(I have a lathe and welding tanks so far and I'm gonna make a mill) but what other objects could I make to fill up rooms? I was thinking of some bulky computer type stuff maybe.
>>12891910alternate radioactive barrels. things that will blow the fuck up if you shoot them. i can't think of anything off the top of my head, i'm just trying to point you in the right direction. maybe an exploding forklift. i like levels where i can blow up 50 imps on some barrels
>>12886318Looking good
>>12891913Hell yea. Not sure how I could make things that blow up yet but I can definitely build a forklift. Thanks.
>>12891680Hey I liked that level of 666 minutes
>>12891935i didn't catch at first this is quake and not doom. might require you to define a new object with quakec or whatever modern source ports do (don't ask me i haven't modded or mapped in quake since the 1990s)there's at an exploding barrel in e1m1 but i don't remember how they workgood luck
>>12891485Aw, but I like reloading :(
I like Doom.
>>12892156I like Serious Sam.
>>12891910Stock, storage, all kinds of fluids (so barrels, but you can mix explosive and non explosive), trash bins, scrap piles, air pipes and ducts for both ventilation and cooling (you can make them different sizes), fans, sinks, cleaning supplies, work benches, coffee maker...
>>12892161I will not play Gloom.Serious Sam I am.
>>12892218>t. didn't watch out for aggro skinheads
>>12892218I will not play it on a loom, I will not play it on a flume.
Kek what a faggot
>>12892536It's canon that Duke hates Nazis.
Cool looking map, and I get the idea behind it but I didn't like the execution. I absolutely save scummed the "challenges", because what the fuck with some of these.
>>12892536>>12892542Can you two go and have your passive aggressive gay buttsex fight in a private room instead of here? Thank you.
>>12892542Wasn't there a comic where he goes back in time, greets Hitler in the Fuhrerbunker with "Yo, Shitler," and watches him kill himself?
>>12892536I'll be the last person alive that remembers him stealing somebody else's gameplay footage of Duke Nukem Forever, dubbing over it as himself playing it, getting caught and purging it off his Youtube channel.
We're makin progress! I'm pretty close to the right size for my machinery!
>>12892562That just as gay as elon and his PoE shenanigans. People can be so gay amd lame.
>>12885402[10/23] Phobos Delta-1 updated to v2.0.>ModDB: https://www.moddb.com/mods/phobos-delta-1-gold>Itch: https://r3voke.itch.io/phobos-delta1/Once again, thanks to the anon who shared his changes with me. They really made this mod go from okay to great.
>>12892568Welp, I'm going to be busy as soon as I'm home from work. Congrats on the release, dude!
>>12892563I don't know if you're going to make those as map geometry or as MDL models, but either one is going to be fucked with those high-poly curves unless you simplify them A LOT.Would have been better off making them in Trenchbroom.
>>12892571Yeah I'm already learning that they have way too many vertices and angles, but I'm gonna simplify them in blender. I didn't know you could build shit right in trenchbroom?
I remember when anons stickied their trashiest maps to the news post, but now it's just the one dysphoric nonce from Doomworld using it as his personal announcement page. Couldn't even write the date in the correct format, baka.
>>12892592quake 3 supports curves like that but quake 1 and 2 don't
>>12892592Yeah it's easy. You can just CSG merge primitives.>>12892594Quake 3 patches are overkill and look fucky with their rounded-square shape.
>>12892594>>12892601Lol if I go up to 90 on decimate it just smashes the things to pieces haha. This is as far as I can go. I'll try building in trenchbroom tonight. I'm glad you said something before I spent more time on this.
>>12892601max your graphics settings out the curves look fine on high settingsthey look as bad as qw on low settings
>>12892609Wrong image
like why do you think this looks badi don't even have the settings up all the way i have mild picmip on and GL_NEAREST because for some reason i am better when the game looks like software modei need to read the documentation on cpm huds and figure out how to make my crosshair bigger...
What are some gameplay mods that let me play as a robot? (besides Highway Acceleroid Booster since that one's obvious)
>>12892625quake 3: arenaeveryone forcemodeled tankjr once they git gud
>>12892629I meant gameplay mods for Doom.
>>12892609Here's a quick mockup I did based on your image. You can put cylinders or spheres where the bevels are on each edge, then CTRL+J to merge them to create convex beveled shapes without a million polygons.>>12892612It's not a graphics setting issue. I'm not talking about how *smooth* the curves look. The curves themselves simply do not produce good approximations of actual circles, only beveled squares. Apply a subdivision modifier to a cube in Blender and you'll understand. The method of curving is the same.
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>>12892639then turn r_subdivisions to some insane number way bigger than what the default menu gives youthe default menu was meant for high end machines on release
>>12892642You are illiterate.
>>12892643did you go see what the cvar does
>>12892629>tankjrI remember green Keel being the go to
>>12892625GD_Echidna is an 80s OVA robot. Aphrodite sort of counts too, but nothing there really screams "robot" apart from her chainsaw and cannon arms, plus it's also mostly a reskin instead of a full mod.>>12892570Hope you have fun. I think I should have reduced how much rifle ammo boxes give but oh well, maybe in an eventual update.I think it plays really good with Rampancy too, it's fun to run up to a robot and knock its ass off with a punch.>inb4 shadersVHS and Fisheye. Wanted to switching things up a little since I rarely play with those.
>>12892648Pepsi vs Coketankjr is better because his footsteps are loud but keel is better because his pain sounds are more cleari almost mentioned keel
>>12892652I've had a lot of fun with Echidna, but I think that one can be a little TOO overpowered, especially with that blue version of the berserk power-up that IMO should be designated to Invulnerability spawns.
>>12892659Yeah, it's meant for maps with a lot of monsters and consequently makes everything else very easy. Either play slaughtermaps with it or change how much damage monsters can take so they don't fold like cardboard.I know Project Malice and Rampancy let you tweak that with a slider, but something like Ultimate Custom Doom should help too?
>>12892625There's the second character in Demonsteele though she's just a cyborg, there's The Demolitionist so long as you don't mind the disgusting fuckup who made it there's The Beeholder who is technically a bee in a powersuit, DRLAX has several cyborgs and things.
>>12892659Oh shit I almost forgot. If you don't mind the jank, there's a couple of Terminator mods too. I think Willkuer's is the most realized, Skeletronmk666's is too raw for me to say I enjoy and terminator80091's is probably the best looking and has the better gameplay overall.
>>12892639Thanks nigga, that will really help and also make shit easier. I was learning how to unwrap the polygons for painting(which is a useful skill to learn)but your way will let me get back to mapping and cut out a lot of bullshit.
I think some stuff like Metadoom has a robot mugface, also Megaman ZDoom came out recently.
>>12892647Did you open a map editor and see that making a standard patch mesh creates a shape which is fundamentally NOT A FUCKING CIRCLE regardless of how much you subdivide it?
>>12892556Apparently, yes.
>>12892694they're bezier curves i know how they look
>>12892705I accept your concession.
oh i think i see why we're arguingradiant doesn't support the feature i'm talking about in quake 1you don't subdivide anything when you make a curve in quake 3sorry for the miscommunication
Pls stahp fighting. I'll get better at creating objects and entities for my maps, I promise ( ._.)
>Error: Maximum allowed video duration is 120 seconds.*dial-up beeps intensifies*
>>12891761I think what gets conflicting for some is the desire to play with freelook + no autoaim while also wanting to experience encounters that were designed with autoaim + no freelook. I can go back and forth between vanilla or severely modded gameplay so its whatever I feel like.
>>12892753I've been thinking about going back to freelook no autoaim cause I'm getting pretty good at uv -fast. the only enemy i really struggle with are pain elementals. this would make the game harder right
>>12892747we use catbox.moe hereyoutube is discouraged
>>12892760Who's talking about YouTube?
>>12892768no onejust telling him how to post long video
>>12892760Catbox has it's own issues now everything gets purged eventually.
>>12892758>this would make the game harder rightIt could make it much easier to handle pain elementals directly since there wouldn’t be any “walls” of enemies absorbing your autoaim, makes it much easier to chaingun-stun them to death.
I love Doom and teh art of punching the mancubus.
>>12892776How consistent is this with vanilla hitboxes? I know at least that it sucks trying to hit the arachnotrons.
>>12892568What monster mod is that in cheers.png - not your hud obviously. And Phobos Delta-1 gave me that DeathStrider feel of a power fantasy larping as a tactical mod.
>>12892793>And Phobos Delta-1 gave me that DeathStrider feel of a power fantasy larping as a tactical mod.With the craziness I’ve seen pulled off in HD, kinda seems like they’re all like that.
>>12892793Rampancy, but the silhouette is more or less my mascot. She just acts creepy and moves around the place, sometimes fucking me over since she can open doors and activate triggers she walks over.She's been hiding around my channel and videos for a while now.
>>12892773Catbox purges stuff which hasn't been accessed in at least 2 years, which is for their own good at this point, the internet, unfortunately, has changed some since their inception. That's more than enough for sharing, however.Otherwise there's Litterbox for temporary file hosting, though it seems a bit more spotty in reliability than Catbox, not sure why.
>>12892787Not consistent but that's a (me) problem. Just... have to stop trying to hit him and hit him. It's not air we're breathin
https://youtu.be/9aLBP0nNAus?si=xUfwLFcC4kwABXV-Based or cringe?
>>12892903both. the voice acting sounds bad but the gameplay looks decent, if a little easy
Is Quake 3 the most A E S T H E T I C id Software game?
>>12892957this is the most doom vaporwave thing i've ever seenhttps://youtu.be/AjEx292Ph8Mi think id software games are inherently vaporwave given that they're products of the 90s
>>12892957The character designs are good, the levels are OK, and the UI and weapons are hideous (except the machinegun, that's good).
>>12892965>the levels are OKcan you name an arena fps with better stock maps, i can't
Can somebody seed the doom quickstart archive?
>>12892971We're talking about aesthetics faggot, not layout.
>>12892625GMOTA has Kustam.
>>12892957Me on the left.
>>12892568Oh, one thing about the BD and Legion patches is they don't just work being in there, you have to enable one in the decorate when you want to play with those monsters. I prefer to add and remove slashes in Slade, but I should have put them in their own .pk3s.>>12892659>should be designated to Invulnerability spawnsThat's a good idea and I'm doing that next time I feel like playing it. I always thought that one was a little much.
>>12893037If you actually make a patch for that, please drop it here if you can.
im going to assemble a new dooming pc all because Pirate Doom 2 map 8 "trezer dig" has a spot on the map where you can see ~25,500 linedefs, ~23,700 vertices, and ~1,500 sectors all at once, and at 720p Nugget chugs to a staggering 45fps. dammit all. Enabling dynamic resolution is not the answer I'm looking for.
>>12893093The Echidna thing?
>>12893213Is that the map with all the trees?
>>12893220yeah. the one where 'x' marks the spot and you dig with a shovel.
>>12893037I'll fix that in the inevitable v2.1 or when enough people complain about it. Thanks for the heads-up.
Bros I'm gonna learn to vibecode and make a Quake mod. What should I put in it?
>>12893213Fwiw, Woof has just gotten multithreading, so Nugget will get it later too. The Woof changelog claims 2x to 4x performance improvements.
>>12893217Yeah, unless I misread and you weren't talking about a patch at all.
>>12893267vaginas - put them everywhere
>>12893276I can do a patch, sure.
>>12893271thats exactly what I needed to hear.
Zero Suit transformation + Morph ball sorta
>>12893271Finally - I didn't think Woof/DSDA/Nugget etc needed it but UZDoom 100% needs it.
>>12893316why does this just make sense
>>12893327Unreal could easily be a Metroid sidestoryProphecy savior from the stars helps friendly natives fend off advanced marauding alien civilization
>>12893320Doesn't it already have it?
>>12893271>>12893271I tried a build.That 45fps is now hitting my 144fps cap with the all cores at ~90%.
>>12893267Voluptuous latin-american women of highest paunchy attribute, a mod to get lost in
>>12893372Which build was it?>>12893369I saw a post about Eternity Engine having it in 2023.
>>12893267HQuake
>>12893393The latest one of course.https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/actions/runs/39529471517If you don't want to log in: https://files.catbox.moe/z2m13g.zipIts so fucking fast.Its so fast...
>>12893402its the win64 version.. prob shouldve said that
I'm playing Doom on the Hurt Me Plenty difficulty level. Any thoughts or opinions about that?
>>12893428I just hope you're having fun
>>12893428that's totally fine if you're new to retro shooters while you learn to aim and figure out where the secrets areif you're playing custom wads, some of them are fucking impossible on UV
i was trying to play inferno on nightmare today. fuck e3m2, i ran out of ammo and died trying to punch a lost soul to death
>>12893369GzDoom/UzDoom has had multithreading for everything but game logic for ages. Game logic is still based in original Doom's game logic, hence single threading, and that's been a performance bottleneck all this time.This could be rewritten for multithreading, but that's gonna be a LOT of work, trying to retain proper compat with most of 25 years of ZDoom content like it already does will be a pain.
Dreamt that someone created a fucking functioning lathe in Boom, running on just this massive and insane VooDoo setup.That doesn't make any fucking sense, but in the dream I was spellbound.
>>12892787Consistently shit, melee struggles to connect to really big hitboxes like that. You kinda can just only wiggle left and right while attacking and hope it'll connect.There's options for improved hit detection in DSDA, Woof, Nugget, etc, which mimics GzDoom's, and that fixes it, makes melee very smooth, but it's not supported by any complevel, so no demos.
>>12885402[10-24] Killer5's commentated playthroughshttps://archive.org/details/zzul-doom-playthroughsThese are a bit obscure and scattered, so I made a single place of where to get them. Hope you'll like them as much as I did.If you want more, you better pest him on Time of Doom forums. No registration needed (the last time I've checked).
>>12893528>If you want more, you better pest him on Time of Doom forums. No registration needed (the last time I've checked).Nah, you need an account.
>>12893486>he died doing what he loved. Punching demons in the face.
>>12893267I have found that with trenchbroom vibecoding is not necessary, but you could try making a working lathe like that anons dream.
>>12893534Well, fug. I thought it would be good to notify him, so I guess I'll need an account too. By the way... mic quality was a bit crappy for the first three videos, so you might need to strain your ears a little bit. It may be the first time I've done video/audio editing since I fooled around in Windows Movie Maker as a teen.Or just go mp3/demo route and tweak the volumes as you prefer.
>>12892957>women brown and ugly and legs are disproportionate >fat guy is way too fucking fat, would not be runnin and gunnin in any meaningful sense for very long.This is not aesthetic to me.
>>12893568Since you're into balls.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAu5f11CpX4
>>12893568Not balls, is orbb. But yeah that looks pretty cool. Aesthetic? No, but pretty cool and at least it's white.
>>12893568>legs are disproportionateLong leg bitches got tight as fuck pussies though.
>>12891868>4:41Page 7 record snipe! I didn't specifically intend to abuse the fact the thread's almost over, but I realize now someone could do that. I think the time could go lower if you balance various ammos differently, along with general movement optimizations. There really are a lot of cells/grog around the map. https://files.catbox.moe/sexaiz.lmp
>>12885524>>12893582I guess I should quote this too.
>>12892957Me on the rightGrunt poses like he's part of the ginyu force
>>12893428Play the game how you want. I play on UV but I save whenever the fuck I want and sometimes I even play continuous.It's a single player game, I'm not trying to be decino here.
>>12893582Dat filename tho
>>12893681>I'm not trying to be decino here.Good, nobody should be trying to be him, and nobody should be trying to map for him either.
>>12892536I also despise the orange retard and his followers, but the VA has always been a big faggot and cock suckem games are shit anyway
>>12893735Duke 1, 2 and 3D are good.
>>12893752That N64 exclusive got a nice recomp recently. It’s pretty good too.
>>12893735You like men.
I'm so happy woof nugget got multicore support. It slapped a smile on my face the moment I woke up this morning.
>>12893908I swear, the moment they finally implement png brightmaps it Nugget will be the best source port ever.
>>12893918Am I retarded? Didn't Nugget already have a brightmap format?
>>12893923Woof has it's own brightmaps format, which is kinda limited compared to ZDoom implementation. Basically all it can do is replace color X with color Y for this specific thing. You can't replace the color of specific pixels (two pixels might share the color but you only want one of them to be bright), you can't add bright colors only to a single sprite if the thing uses multiple sprites (like a health bonus has multiple sprites "looped" one after another to create the animation illusion). Meanwhile ZDoom png format can do all of this, and some extra stuff.The pull request was opened in 2024, and they could only do sprite brightmaps, i.e. not wall textures. Just checked, and it's been dead for two years, basically no activity since it was opened.
>>12893937>replace color X with color YI meant always make color X fullbright.
>Woof Changelog.md: "Add support for comp_thingsectorlight, in preparation for revision 1.5 of the MBF21 spec."They're updating MBF21? I thought they were working on a completely new spec?
>>12893987I guess it could just be a new update to fix some issues MBF21 has and add a few functions from the new spec to it? It's the first I hear of this myself and I'm pretty sure MBF2Y would just be a further development of MBF21.
>>12893987Might be necessary compat tweaks or something.>>12894051MBF2y will allow UDMF map support and use Decorate (rather than build even more on DeHacked), so I'm not sure it's building all that much on MBF21 directly. Probably why it's taking a lot of time.
I'll bake a loaf I think.
Hot and fresh>>12894125>>12894125>>12894125
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>>12893684>sexaiz.lmpLuck of the draw.
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>>12893782I'm not duke nukem
any AI slop that turns these games into bot deathmatches?
