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>>12880718NFS GBA games were funIt was impressive to see a fully 3D game on the system
>>12880747less than fourty years man. less. than. fourty.
>>12880940nah performance was too bad, you need to hit a baseline of playability before a technical gimmick is worthwhile. if you can't match something like stunt fx in performance you shouldn't bother.
Seat Cordoba is too OP>Worst rally car of the era>OP car>Mitsubishi Lancer, best rally car of the era>Absolute fucking trashWhat did Codemasters mean by this?
>>12880952Been playing GBA Underground and performance isn't super bad if you play in first-person view
>>12880952V-Rally 3 and Top Gear Rally felt and controlled great
>>12881190I'm gonna try that one next time.
>>12880718N64 vroom bus?
>>12881498I'm finna vrooom
>>12881190I'm honestly surprised you listened to previous advice and tried the yellow brick. >What did Codemasters mean by this?The cars in the game are just retarded in general - beating the game on expert gives you the stratos.....which is worse than the lancia, metro and 205 turbo you unlock on your way to getting the stratos.
I will never not be satisfied at seeing this and I will NEVER be attempting it again. It has been over 20 years and I still bust out in a cold sweat when remembering the effort it took.
>>12881370I don't disagree, I was talking about need for speed.
>>12881190Don't look up videos of NFS Underground 1 and 2 car rankings by race discipline, it might give you an aneurysm
>>12881803What game is this? I've been long searching for PS1 games that displays all other games' memory save icons
>>12881847Driver 2.
Some anon in the previous thread commented about Enthusia having patches now to remove analog deadzones and adjust trigger sensitivity in PCSX2. Sadly, the game's still awkward to play with a controller because the analog curve is VERY sluggish and non-linear. Even at increased sensitivity it still sucks, feels like handling a boat.
Don't let it die!
>>12883913If in doubt, flat out.
https://youtu.be/Zs2q5n7Yapc?
>Going back to CMR1 for freshness>Get six seconds over Colin in one sector>No mistakes, same driving as before>1 sec behind next sector meaning he got over 7 seconds in one 25-second sectorAt least CMR2 is kinda logical with the times
Daytona USANeed For Speed Underground 2Road RashChocobo Racing
>>12884824>Chocobo Racinghttps://youtu.be/glm7DS4V-x8
>>12884824but which Daytona USA version?
won with the Renaultnow trying with the Skoda
so far so good>>12884714haven't had that happen even when driving FWD cars - are you sure you drove that sector right?
>>12885012I did a few retries and it happened the same in all of them, one of the Greece stages don't remember now which one, third sector. I ended up winning the stage anyway but it was amusing. PS1 version.
>all green last stage, 10 second lead>beat McRae overall by 3 secondslmao
these two square turns through gates are fun
>won rally of sweden>accidentally clicked a key and skipped the podium cutscene before getting a screenshot>can't replay last 2 stages because game already saved at start of next rallytragedy, complete tragedy
>>12880718How the fuck do I get gud at anti-gravity racing games? Not just /vr/ ones like Wipeout, but any of them in general. They seem to handle very differently from conventional racers.
>>12885228Well, even AG racers seem to differ between each other. I only have experience with F-Zero and Wipeout - F-Zero is easy to pickup but the challenge is winning the races in harder difficulties. In the SNES and N64 games you should master double tapping the shoulder buttons for quick turning, and be gentle with analog inputs for the N64 game (use a lower sensitivity setting if emulating). Been so long since I last played GX that I can't give you any tips there.As for Wipeout (classic trilogy and BallisticNG), it's a complete different ballpark. The ships are more weighty and harder to turn, so you have to prepare your turn in advance and make judicious use of the side brakes. Sharp turns will require you to turn very early and use side braking so you take it in a "drifting" form. You can also shift the weight of the ship up and down, which can cause it to speed up and slow down respectively. If F-Zero is easy to pickup and hard to master, Wipeout is hard to pickup and even harder to master. Begin with 3 which has gentler physics. Once you get the hang of it, the modern Wipeouts will be easy to handle.
>>12885316I want a Wipeout game that plays like F-Zero. I like everything about Wipeout apart from the actual driving. I'd also be willing to settle for an F-Zero game with Wipeout's weapons.
>>12885359>I want a Wipeout game that plays like F-ZeroOxymoron
how many here likes to /vr/aaap
>>12885316>Wipeout is hard to pickup and even harder to master. Begin with 3 which has gentler physics. Once you get the hang of it, the modern Wipeouts will be easy to handle.Damn. I guess I'll do this since a friend of mine gave me his copy of the Wipeout Omega HD Collection for PS4. I'll start with Wipeout 3. Or maybe I'll just keep the Omega Collection on my shelf while I ease my way into the genre with F-Zero. Which F-Zero would you recommend for a beginner?
>>12885443>Which F-Zero would you recommend for a beginner?Just pick whichever you want to play. I started with GX, then SNES, then one of the GBA games, then X which ended up being my favorite. The 3D titles are easy to play, just hard to beat the CPU on harder difficulties, but try the easier difficulties and you'll git gud eventually. Mode-7 F-Zeros require some practice.
>>12885494Thank you. I'll keep all of those games in mind as I sift through YouTube to see which one I like the look of best.
>>12885287What time did you do in Corsica?
>>1288560615:17.65
>>12885668how
>>12885672I'm going to assume PC times are somehow faster than PS1 times which a cursory look at speedrun dot cum would support, as the in-game time for PC runs is vastly faster than PS1 runs. Would be cool if somebody could document the changes between versions
>sega>makes the greatest racer of all time>Put only 4 courses inWhy the fuck do they do this
>>12886246Quality over quantity
>>12886246they were arcade games and you were supposed to beat other people's times
Despite its infamous cover art this was a pretty solid vehicular combat racer for the GBA though the final boss race was ridiculously hard and you only had a limited amount of tries
>>12886254Yeah but Sega Rally 1 and 2 are so fucking good I wanna just play them forever. Just give me 30 courses. The Dreamcast version of 2 has 15 but it's 30 FPS and ugly as shit. Hopefully ai vibecoders can inject the DC levels into the arcade version
>>12886624it's funny to think we wouldn't have gotten CMR (and DIRT by extension) without SEGA. they were incredibly influential. i just wish the saturn port had a 60 FPS mode, yeah. 32X Virtua Racing would be nice as well.
Those controls suck>>12886624Vibe coders should put the first game levels on the second game too
>>12886642I wondered about that. If they could just be brought over 1:1 or would the different physics mean they would need to be adjusted slightly. It would be interesting to see how 1 handled 2 levels and 2 handled 1 levels.There's some weird ai shit now where you can inject a game into another game I wonder could you do that here
>>12886624try PC version
>>12886668I wanna emulate on my hacked switch in bed tho (;__;)
>>12887009Hm, maybe try overclocking to get a stable 60 fps in DC version
>I can't play unless 60fps!grow up
>>12887120it's pretty fucking important for a racing game, anon.
>>12887125grow up
>>12887125these are retro games where a lot of the time physics were heavily tied to framerate so blow it out of your ass
>>12887138>>12887143virtua racing on arcade ran at 60, namco released a cut down version of ridge racer just so they could prove it could do 60 on the PS1, polyphony had a 60 FPS mode in GT1, which they forgot to cut from 2. they always understood the importance of having a high, consistent framerate.
>I love racing games but I would never ever play 90% of 5th gen racers and about 50% of 6th gen ones because muh fps>>>/v/
>>12887163where did i say this? if you can get a game running at 60 without any real problem, what's the issue?
>>12887156yes but if you want to play lets say, midnight club 2 at 60, you are looking at cars that have literally lower top speed. in gt1 and 2 @ 60 you get cars that are way too compliantanyway this is all stupid because sega rally 2's home port IS on home computers where it runs better than it does on dreamcast, so you can blow it out of your ass again
this is what playing revolt feels like
missed another podium screenshotat least the championship's in the bag
didn't suspect a FWD skoda could do donuts like that
Not a bad racer despite the awful framerate and visuals, I enjoyed the tracks and I liked the controls.
>>12888751Why couldn't the N64 make good looking racers? they all have this kinda barren look to them. Even RR64 sucks compared to Rage Racer and RRT4.
>>12888840Stunt Racer 64 looks good, same for WDC.
What's the best F1 game for PS1? there are a million of them
>>12889023Formula 1 97 (RIP Bizarre Creations)
>>12886246A real racist knows the thrill of attacking the same corners until they're thoroughly defeated.
the /vr/oooming never ends
>get a 3 day site wide b& for posting promotions>spend it playing flatout 2was breddy gud all told
Any guidance on getting into the Choro Q games?
>>12889618Think kawaii thoughts.
>>12885052>>12885057>>12885060>>12885067San Francisco Rush 2049?
For non sweaty racists, how difficult is golding all GT3 license tests? I don't even like them, but I have the itch
>>12880747This is what it plays like on a 4.77 Mhz 8088
>>12890014here's how it plays in DOS-Box
also the workshop menu is really cool
I'm curious if anyone beat my Daytona times from like 2 years ago when I did nothing but run dino canyon for like 10 hours a day (was unemployed for 3 months kek). The other 14 hours were spent running Laguna seca in AC with he mx 5 cup.Mental illness level of obsession I remember posting here and on /o/
>>12890104Fug I can't find it in the archives
>>12889743lollmao
>>12889743Very. GT2 and 3 have some über sadist golds. And in 3 you don't even get exclusive cars, so the only motive to do them is bragging rights only.In terms of golding difficulty, from less to more: 4 > 1 > (powergap) > 3 = 2
>>12890014>>12890090>>12890091As much as nostalgia is one hell of a drug within the pc world I sure as shit do not miss games running at 15fps or less and do so enjoy the fruits of 30+ years of computational improvements to (where possible) get an experience in my racing that would've needed unobtanium parts at the time of the release of the game.
The difficulty on expert is insane, and more so if you turn on damages. You'll be driving carefully because one touch means race over and then this happens all the fucking time.
>https://nfsu2.xyz/>turn NFSU2 into a browser-based MMO>now have to deal with a 5000 car pileup trying to leave the airport
Zoomers so mindbroken they need constant online integration on everything, even old racing games
If your F1 game doesn't have a bonus track in the shape of an F1 car I don't want to know.
>>12881563because the Stratos is probably the most iconic WRC machine. maybe the Sport Quattro or 555 Imprezas are up there too but the mere conception of an Italian mid-engined Ferrari-powered rallye car is like what a child would dream up.
>>12885434I made it a personal mission of mine to try and pin down the best old dirtbike games. Championship Motocross 2001 has a career mode where you have not only tune your bike for each event based on surface and weather, you also have to maintain and rebuild your bike periodically or else it'll break down on you. EA's Supercross 2001 (just called Supercross on the box) is probably the best freestyle game on the PS1. MTX Mototrax is a dirt bike Tony Hawk game, though an unfinished one. they struck gold with the THPS4-style open levels with missions and gaps scattered around and special tricks and the like, but it's like they ran out of ideas for cool levels so there's only 4. Freestyle MetalX is basically the Dave Mirra to MTX's Tony Hawk. basically the same thing but a bit worse across the board. Freakstyle is made like (and I believe by the same devs as) SSX, and would probably be the best dirt bike game of that era if it weren't for the utterly abhorrent catchup the AI has in races. no matter how good you do you are fully at the mercy of the COM not just strapping a booster rocket to their bike and blowing past you at 200mph at the line.
>>12889023the psygnosis games. 99 or 2000 are the definitive refinements of their F1 engine. unfortunately every single PS1 F1 game is a clunky chore to play because the hardware just can't handle 20+ cars going that fast around a track. you're much better off booting up modded GP2 in DOSBox.
Why yes I do use a negcon to play wipeout 2097, how can you tell?
the most intense inputs I've had to do in a racing game were while playing Xpand Rally and Xpand Rally Xtremevery quickly my wheel would get the distinct aroma of warm grease from between the gears inside the wheel
>>12891416Forget Wipeout, the real NegCon hell is the Italy rally in CMR2.0. Try it.
>>12892006but I don't wanna buy CMR 2 for my playstation when I can play it on pc
>>12892020Just burn a CD doofus
>>12892028psx-chan remains pure and has not been defiled by modding
>>12890014When we can get ai to interpolate this and get it running at 60fps all this old boomer jank will be fucking kino
>>12889373>The legally distinct not-Lancia car
>>12892037I'd say the front ism ore in line with the porsche 959 used in the paris-dakar.
are there any fifth gen rally games with a full WRC season and grid? Colin McRae is missing events and teams.
I do wish there were more classic need for speed style games. Games where it is cool street tracks and cool cars - real or fiction doesn't matter - without a heavy focus on many arcade styling of the time like timed checkpoints or a sole focus on beating other competitors. Just being able to do laps while weaving between traffic is very relaxing even at high speeds. Test drive does but the 3d games are pretty rough, burnout only really touches on that for the first two games and beyond that my knowledge of similar titles is sparse. Midtown madness and midnight club are sort of in that style but the open world doesn't scratch that itch.
The qualifying sessions in this game are kinda bullshit. You'll set the fastest lap during the 12 laps you have available and then find yourself 10th in the starting grid because the entire session is an hour long and the CPU will simulate superlaps for themselves, and you must have a good starting position if you play with damages enabled.The only counter is entering the pits in the penultimate lap and let the timer run (which you cannot fast forward in-game, only via emulator) so the CPU doesn't cheat. Oh and you'll have to go out of the pits a few seconds before the timer runs out and complete your last lap or otherwise they'll cheat too.
>>12892435Check out the differences - top is with simulated laps, bottom is no simulated laps. My time was the same in both, the one set in the post above.
>>12885227It's evil
>>12891840Holy macarroni! that webm is pure bliss. Thanks for posting.
As much as muh nostalgia goes a long way even with real hardware the playstation version of need for speed II is a hell of a lot easier to play when it isn't running at 10fps because of the cockpit view (setting GTE to being a single clock cycle in emulation really, really helps performance).
>>12889659yep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLAepktMFT8Wipeout 3 Special Edition running at 60 fps on a Dreamcast
The dude behind NFS High Stakes Complete Edition has started adding NFS3 tracks to the gamehttps://youtu.be/-vozJq_FcR4
>>12892520sarcasm aside, rally games really need to have really long straights once in a while. rallies take part on actual roads, and real roads aren't all hairpins and jumps
>>12893396You can get the emulated PS1 game running at 60fps with a hack too. I can imagine the DC triggers being kinda bad for sidebraking
I fucking hate this game so much. Fuck me for seeking F1 recommendations. The CPU cheats so much.So, in medium race length, the hard tires still degrade as fast as the softs (they only have an effect in the long race distance) so in theory everyone has to pit once per race. But Schumacher went and did all the race without a single pitbox stint somehow. I was 1 sec away when I had to enter the pits. All the other drivers pitted, but not our Schumi! couldn't be precious Schumi! stealing me blind! and he gets to be a world champion? what a sick joke! I should've stopped him when I had the chance! and you, you have to stop him, you-
>evil!guess i'll just lose then
>>12894047Remember, the pink Porsche is the canon car. Any other color = you didn't beat the game
>>12894050>nikita > rachel
Checked out CART World Series on PS1.Either I suck horribly at this game or the AI is extra brutal even on the easiest difficulty setting. Feels like staying within track limits is suicide for the idea of winning races.Also, the music's almost good. Almost, because who decided that completely destroying it was the best call?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3IIc5r_3U
>>12894168>Listen to the vidHow much reverb you like senpai
>>12880718Virtua Racing looked better on the 32X than the Saturn. It's not even debatable. I don't know if the system was just ass or SEGA was full of incompetent programmers, but they needed to do better, Senator.
>>12894214Saturn VR was developed by gaijin
>>12894214I feel like it's probably one of those rushed ports to Saturn. Such a shame, I feel like having bad versions of that, VF and Daytona really hurt the system's chances.On the other hand, I've been playing a bit of Sega Rally on Saturn again after playing the arcade version a lot. i can see why people like the Saturn version, it definitely feels a little different, despite being a graphical downgrade.Any tips for tuning? Or just leave it default?I can get 4th place but haven't unlocked lakeside yet.
>>12894462>Any tips for tuning? Or just leave it default?I just leave it at default. Maybe there's a tune that unlocks insane speed but I want to simply get used to the way the game controls normally. The only thing I do is setting steering speed to slow in the options, I get better times with it
>>12894670I'll leave it for now. I remember in Sega Rally 2 it became important to tinker with the settings for better times on the later races in Championship, but it's probably not quite as big a change in this one.
>>12894462>I feel like it's probably one of those rushed ports to Saturn.story goes it was completely rewritten by a western dev from scratch with little assistance from sega, i think. really boggles the mind.
>>12894214>Virtua Racing looked better on the 32X than the Saturn. It's not even debatable. I don't know if the system was just ass or SEGA was full of incompetent programmers, but they needed to do better, Senator.The 32X port was developed by Sega CS4The Saturn port was developed by Time Warner Interactive
>playing midnight club 2>mfw savoMC2 is - overall - the hardest game in the series though the release version of LA had by far the hardest start compared to the other games.
What wheel do you use? No, I don't want to spend $100+. If you're a richfag, fuck off
>>12889618Play Road Trip Adventure. It's 10/10.
>>12894047I got this game as a Christmas present and for years as a kid I thought it was total slop. As a grown-up played it again and found out it was really good
>>12896016I learnt from that game that coffee is in fact good for you.
>>12896010>No, I don't want to spend $100+Then don't even think about buying a wheel. The cheapest acceptable ones are $200+
>>12889618Seconding Road Trip (the US version is simply called Road Trip)
Why were the tyres so wide in Daytona USA? Always looked stupid.Unless that's how NASCAR cars are but I don't think so.
>>12896663Fat carfat driverfat wifefat tyresfat gripfat speedsimple as
>>12896663NASCAR-spec Goodyear Eagles are 11 inches across. which, on a 90s Lumina (what the Daytona USA car is based on) look like monster drag slicks. the game does a bit of sensationalisation though
What is the best /vr/ rally game that isn't RBR or CMR 2.0?
>>12896881Sega Rally
>>12896881PS1? VR Rally 2PS2? WRC Rally Evolved 2005PC? why play anything other than RBR
>>12896881Mobil 1 Rally Championship
>mfw playing NFS4 PC at an unlocked framerate
Toca RD2 is wonderful, but Toca RD3 is a masterpiece—it’s even superior to the entire Gran Turismo series.If you love motorsport, I highly recommend it.
>>12896881Rallisport Challenge series on Xbox
>>12899824Never heard of it. I can recommend DTM Race Driver 3 though. V8 Supercunts Australia 3 look like shovelware to be frank.
>>12890014>8088>slowest clocked 8-bit budget version of 8086 runs the game like shitOf course. You could also get the game on Atari ST, which was cheaper than 8088 PCs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLQzjg4YzKU
>>12896881v-rally 3 for gba .
>>12900167>Never heard of it. I can recommend DTM Race Driver 3It's the exact same game, Toca Race Driver 3 is the American and European name for the general Pal version, DTM Race Driver 3 is the name of the Pal version released only for the German market, the same goes for 1 and 2, only the name changes. They are all spectacular games, but actually 3 is the one most focused on motorsport while the first two are mixed with many more races on city streets and with non-competitive racing cars.
>>12900318That's the joke.
I don't know what this beast is meant to be and I also don't need more than 256 colours.
running in the 50s
did /vr/ ever have a rally tournament?
>>12901510A german car in france in 1955? How bold.
>>12900532Codemasters' commercial strategy, they decided to call it that because in Germany DTM is very popular but in reality in those games there is only one DTM racing championship out of 33 or 35
>>12902117in the US it was called Jarrett and Labonte Stock Car Racing. the trick being that it was named for JUSTIN Labonte and JASON Jarrett, the literal-who sons of the much more famous NASCAR drivers who at the time were the leading drivers in NASCAR and thus their names carried a lot of weight.
>>12901245Looks like a Mitsubishi HSR-II
>>12902387the car is a Nazca C2 but I think the anon meant those two bridge pillars
>>12902419Oh yeah, NFS uses real cars. Playing too much Ridge Racer I guess.
>>12902423>ridge racer as an excuseI can respect that.
The SNES/Famicom had a ton of cool racing games, ranging from arcadey titles to more sim-like games:F1 Pole Position:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQPDeYZ83JsF1 Pole Position 2: https://youtu.be/RYWps1HNMlA?t=59Final Stretch:https://youtu.be/Adz_khPK1dQ?t=116Redline F-1 Racer:https://youtu.be/HfNXAbANqakSuper F1 Circus 2:https://youtu.be/vrUZcYbgCNU?t=125Super F1 Circus 3:https://youtu.be/wUNqQp7fxSk?t=270Super Family Circuit:https://youtu.be/897uE_IUEmY?t=3Super Indy Champ:https://youtu.be/YK60Wc6ADas?t=122Zen Nihon GT Senshuken:https://youtu.be/NAY6wAGvE5Q?t=449GP-1:https://youtu.be/KyIUjsbmQkAGP-1 Part II:https://youtu.be/YQZZPPyCDJk?t=1183Human Grand Prix IV:https://youtu.be/id1JQr221lI?t=223Drift King: Shutokou Battle '94:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_zhHPKbYVwDrift King: Shutokou Battle 2:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-GHGUPCiXQTouge Legend: Saisoku Battle:https://youtu.be/y2RvL9WDyS0?t=190The GBA also has a bunch of cool racing games, the Advance GT series is like a mini-Gran Turismo:Advance GTA:https://youtu.be/S46vgL_k4u0?t=38(the japanese version has saves, the american release uses a password system)GT Advance 2: Rally Racing:https://youtu.be/MWyR4nf6xqk?t=964GT Advance 3 - Pro Concept Racing :https://youtu.be/rarmlAMvXJA?t=25Road Trip: Shifting Gears:https://youtu.be/j1pVI6vb-CY?t=652TOCA World Touring Cars:https://youtu.be/J78NlJblypY?t=63Top Gear GT Championship:https://youtu.be/p7YpIr5FD-Q?t=74
>>12902440Nice list
It still irks me that the pc version doesn't have the beautiful sunset time of day when set to night time on dolphin cove and to get close we have to use a mod (and seemingly only one person has made the effort).
Ever since getting a decent sound setup (and not some garbled 2W TV speakers) I have really come to both appreciate and loathe the sound design of racing games. Even giving somewhat of a pass for the 16bit era and older where sure, beep boop is the best you can do (though naturally titles on the beefier hardware can sound very good) the amount of racing games even deep into the 32bit era where cd quality and the like was available have car engines that just drone and environmental sounds - like say, thunder - that are crunchier than my morning cereal.Obviously the games that do it well now pop more than ever before, especially given the engine revving is a sound the a player is going to hear continuously during play. I have come to realise how much of the overall gaming experience I had been diluting with the poor sound output.
>>12902893didn't read btw
>>12901510Topkek, good video anon.
