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Splits your dick into a neovagina

RU is a worthless tier. If it's not OU it's really PU same as 4 Sneasel.

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>>59690403 >>59690407 >>59690544 >>59690743 >>59692127 >>59693785

>>59690390

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>>59690406

>>59690401
>Trying to use an OU mon in UU
Do you get joy out of being functionally retarded?

>>59690403
Ah, so Weavile doesn't exist in UU then? So why isn't Sneasel UU, retard-kun?

>>59690401
honestly this image itself is proof this thread is just dumping hooks in the water.

>>59690324
splissies don't even play mons, they just argue about what's "logical" while ignoring the pre-split logic

>>59690371
Sneasel was UU before zoomers got RU made

>If it's not OU it's really PU
nonplayer detected
even ABR utilized NU Sableye and UU Misdreavus to success

>>59690390
Goddamn, I know the point of Weavile is that it's supposed to be a glass canon but those defenses are just way too shitty for a fully evolved Pokemon that was introduced when the power creep really started picking up steam.

>>59690407
Still waiting for you to answer >>59690406 , retard-kun.

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>>59690465

>another thread blatantly made in bad faith because the mods are lazy and everyone responding will attempt to argue with the OP who will just pull out gotchas and strawman various pokemon that "prove" the split didn't help
Don't try to argue with OP.
Sage, report, and move on.

>>59690462
Still waiting for you to answer >>59690406 , retard-kun.

>>59690324
>>59690390
GIVE WEAVILE INNER FUCUS

>>59690390
/thread

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>>59690501 >>59690558

>>59690406
why is haunter not OU like gengar?

>>59690493
Did Haunter improve in Gen 4 NU thanks to the physical special split?

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>>59690501
answer me and I'll answer you

>>59690438
Not sure what you mean, those are fine for a Pokemon boating 120 Atk and 125 speed - and Weavile is pretty min-maxed as is with only 45 SpA on a BST over 500.
Weavile's main issue for a long time was having weak as hell STAB moves, and once that got resolved it still held its own.

If you want to look at frail speedy Pokemon that shouldn't be that stat screwed, look at stuff like Swoobat, Liepard, Salazzle, or Lycanroc Midday.

>>59690468
>>59690401

>>59690493
Not who you were going off on, but it gives up 95BST points AND 10 in Speed which was a death sentence in Gen 4 OU. Then as now, smogtards only used the strongest non-legends available, meaning NFE's just didn't make the cut. Especially when they have an evo that did what they did, but far better due to more stat points.
Mind, even in Gen 1 no cunt used Alakazam and just used Mewtwo for their Psychic needs, so I dunno why you're still bitching about the split. Psychic's been dogshit outside Gen 1 and the brokenness of its engine and type matchups. Hell, it took Gardevoir getting Fairy for waifufags and comptards to begin to intersect.

>>59690324
That is a combination of an evolution for the same Pokemon existing, and also Gen 3 having a weird meta.

>>59690560
The evolution for the Pokemon doesn’t exist in the three tiers above it.

Weavile learns Night Slash, Sneasel doesn't. Also Weavile is not that good in Gen 4

>>59690560
>also Gen 3 having a weird meta.
elaborate

>>59690406
Sneasel isn't UU in your own example, clearly it sucks and Weavile is carried by Pressure

>>59690622
RU > PU

>>59690625
Still not UU

>pressure
>good on a fragile Pokémon
???

>>59690626
Still not PU

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>>59690324
Gengar doesn’t learn Shadow Ball in Gen 1

>>59690627
Pressure is decent if you are fast since you can spam Substitute and Protect to stall out moves like Fire Blast.

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>>59690699 >>59690743 >>59690876

>>59690406
>So why isn't Sneasel UU, retard-kun?
Because its usage is low. Why use the pre-evo when you can use the stronger evolution? You can still use it in UU if you want.

But you knew all this already, because you were born with a cock in your mouth.

>>59690697
raped that freak

>>59690636
Not sure what point is, no one said anything about RU or PU, Sneasel has never been good

>>59690324
Until regional croagunk and its exclusive evo.

>>59690697
>Why use the pre-evo when you can use the stronger evolution?
>>59690401

>>59690743
>Why use the pre-evo

>>59690755
>you can use the stronger evolution
>image clearly shows I can't use the stronger evolution

>>59690782
Didn't answer my question

>>59690799
I did answer your question. I literally can't use the evolution.

>>59690801
I didn't ask about the evolution, I asked about the pre-evolution
Why use Sneasel

>>59690808
The same reason I'd use Sneasel in Gen 3.

>>59690816
To lose?

>>59690858
No, because Sneasel isn’t PU in Gen 3.

>>59690858
She's lying, she only wants the split reversed so her alakazam boyfriend is worth a fuck again. She doesn't give a shit about sneasel at any stage (just "handy evidence" she can use to justify continuing to cry like an ignored toddler over progess).
Motherfucker's acting like a creationist, the way she's so vehemently anti-evolution.

>>59690859
It isn't UU in Gen 3 either

>>59690866
But it isn’t PU like it is in Gen 4.

>>59690782
So use Sneasel then. It being PU/RU doesn't prevent you from using it in UU. A UU strategy was even posted >>59690697.

>>59690865
>Can't learn Flamethrower/I Beam/Thunderbolt
>Can't learn Fire Blast/Blizzard/Thunder
>Can learn punches
>Can learn Digital
>Can learn fucking Iron Tail
Baffling, honestly
>>59690870
Losing is losing bro

>>59690876
>It being PU/RU doesn't prevent you from using it in UU
And yet it’s not UU, even though the split apparently made it better. Why?

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>>59690913 >>59690914 >>59690952

>>59690888
>Why?
Because Smogon tiers are by usage, not viability. Sneasel is low in use because its evolution, Weavile, exists. Weavile does what Sneasel does, only better. Therefore it is Overused while Sneasel is Rarely Used.

>>59690896
>Because Smogon tiers are by usage, not viability
If the Pokemon was viable it would be used more.

>>59690896
>Weavile does what Sneasel does, only better
Weavile doesn't exist in UU. Or RU. Or NU. So there would be nothing stopping Sneasel from being those tiers if the split actually made it better.

>>59690914
>So there would be nothing stopping Sneasel from being those tiers if the split actually made it better.
You wanna know a secret? Sneasel IS in those tiers. Pokemon from lower tiers can be used in higher ones.

>>59690914
>So there would be nothing stopping Sneasel from being those tiers
Except being Sneasel

>>59690917
>Sneasel IS in those tiers
Which it wouldn't be, if the split actually made it better. It would be banned from PU, NU, and RU. Yet it isn't, because the split didn't actually make it better.

>>59690918
Glad we agree the split didn't improve Sneasel.

>>59690896
So why isn't Sneasel used enough to actually be UU?

>>59690952
Gen III tiers aren't usage based

>>59690324
who fucking cares, gen 4 and 5 comp suck anyway. comp didnt start being fun again until gen 6

>>59690865
>she she she
get raped you tranny jfc

>>59690964
Bodied that tranny

>>59690324
oh no the ugly shitmon nobody likes got fucked

>>59690924
It's really hard to improve upon garbage, I guess Stealth Rock is an improvement
Oh wait

>>59690324
>Splitsisters…how do we counter this?
The burden of proof is on you.
You have to explain how exactly the split made Sneasel worse.

>>59691121
Maybe try looking at the image

>>59691125
I'm asking for you to elaborate.

>>59691130
The image already elaborates.

>>59691132
No it doesn't actually, I have no idea why it dropped, you seem to since you blame the split for it.

>>59690964
>has spent god knows how long crying like a little girl over her boyfriend alakazam being put in its box
>not a woman
Act like a woman of the female persuasion crying over your childhood, get called exactly what you are. You don't want adults to think you're eating the hrt tabs like skittles, best not act like you eat a bowl of HTReeties every morning, noon and night before you run onto the internet to cry about the evolution of the video game series from your childhood 19 years ago.
And I do believe I've said this to you before, but you clearly ignored it to re-litigate your autistic HRT-fuelled rants.

>Niggas on /vp/ still falling for Kujo’s expired bait, on par with saying Mao increased China’s life expentancy
You retards need to just make fun of him. Don’t actually engage with his bullshit.

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>>59691823

IF SPLIT GOOD EXPLAIN THIS

>>59691144
PU is lower than RU. Therefore Sneasel isn’t better with the split.

>>59691795
Sex appeal

>>59691813
You're conflating two different things. Sneasel might get buffed on its own by the split, but still fall down a tier because there are just better mons around compared to the Gen 3 meta.
The right question would be, if we flipped Sneasel's attacks in Gen 3, how would it change in the meta?

>>59691845
Attempting to reason with a faggot is pointless.

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>>59691971

you'll all don't even

>>59691813
It's the same tier

>>59691845
If it's worse after every Pokemon in the game got a buff then it didn't actually get a buff, retard.

>>59691845
>because there are just better mons around compared to the Gen 3 meta
...because of the split
meaning the split didn't actually make it better

>>59691930
no it isn't

>>59691931
...it improved relative to how it was before, BUT in the context of the game, in practice, it got worse. These are two different things: one is the absolute change if we look at Sneasel in isolation, and the other is relative to the Gen 4 format

Student watches PORN, and gets NAKED.

Hierarchical elitism is why I'm a Luciferian Marxist.

>>59691934
how the hell is an entire generation of pokemon being added "because of the split"? when gen 2 turned to gen 3, shit shifted, and it wasnt "because of the split"

>>59691934
Yes it is, they're both the NGMI tier

Donald Trump has astral projected sex with Benjamin Netanyahu.

>>59690324
Sneasel was UU in gen 3 because even without STAB, Shadow Ball and Brick Break hit pretty hard, especially after SD. It's also the fastest Pokemon legal in G3UU along with Persian.
What killed Persian in Gen 4 was not some schizo bs about split but stat screep and Choice Scarf.

>Scarfless Sneasel can use SD to have easier time against defensive mons but then lose to Scarf attackers.
>Scarf Sneasel is fast but can't use SD so any tank just stops it.

sneasel gets an evolution in gen 4 though? is that the joke?

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>>59691972

dummy thicc bimbo furries grinding on my dih with their gyatt

>>59691884
i don't get it

>>59691970
dummy thicc femboy bimbo furries grinding on my dih with their gyatt

fixed it for me :3

>>59691964
>What killed Persian.

What killed Sneasel* Sorry I am not used to discussion about irrelevant shit like this.

>>59691971
It's a strawman featuring wojaks so of course it won't make sense.
And it's intentionally like that so whoever posted it can call you out for being a retard (not calling (You) one) for not understanding what the esoteric message is.

>>59691971
More content good, doesnt matter where its at

>>59691950
>how the hell is an entire generation of pokemon being added "because of the split"?
The tiers are split evenly regardless. If Sneasel was actually better it wouldn't matter.

>>59690324
>>59690390
>>59690401
The Special Stat split was worse, made countless mons worse for no reason and failed to address the real problem (Mewtwo) who remained an overpowered bastard.

>>59692127
Balancing changes have always been a thinly-vield mean to punish weak Pokemon for the sake of doing so.

Finally this low effort piece of shit thread is over and on its way past page 10.
Into the archive you go!

>>59691968
congratulations you figured something obvious out faster than 99% of this board ever has
it's depressing that i have to award someone for basic brain functionality

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>>59693643
nuh uh

>>59690324
>make split
>don't make good physical Dark or Ice moves so nothing changes for your mon
>but others start to benefit from split and overtake your mon
simple
also >>59690390

>>59693709
neat! what do i win!?

>>59693734
>>59690401

>>59693735
a sad feeling

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>>59693909

>>59693734
they're keeping johtonian sneasel's level up moveset awful on purpose
it's even gotten worse over the generations because in gen 8 feint attack (a 60bp dark STAB move) was removed and beat up was pushed back 14 levels, from 28 (actually reasonable) to 42 (why)
to get that move above the 80bp par for a typical late learnset move you'll need 6 party members with average base attacks of 90 or above
if one of them faints that needed average is now 110; reasonable enough on physical attacker spamming teams but good moves aren't dependent on the entire team to function
if two are fainted you'll need your remaining party's average base attack stat at 150
and just don't bother using beat up if half or more of your party is fainted

for the love of fuck just give it ice punch and night slash by level up

>>59693734
Drapion and Sharpedo?

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>>59693788
I don't feel sad at all, i won!

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>>59693811
>they're keeping johtonian sneasel's level up moveset awful on purpose

This is why I hate regional forms and their evolutions (like Hisuian Sneasel and its evo Sneasler) with a passion.

They do nothing to improve the original forms of those Pokemon but instead just serve to overshadow, outclass and replace the originals.

I'm still mad that my bro the original Farfetch'd will forever stay stuck in its base form and locked out of an evolution forever, never to be used again because there's no point when Galarian Farfetch'd and its evo Sirfetch'd exist.

It's just not the same.

>>59693909
Galarian Farfetch'd should've just been an evo of regular Farfetch'd, and the whole line's gimmick should've been the leek changes in evolution moreso than the bird itself.

>>59693909
>one's white with a small leek and the other black with a big leek
what did gamefreak mean by this?

>>59693909
OG farfetch'd is meant to be a memepick tho if you don't like that its not the mon for you.

>>59690324
PU stands for Pretty Used. It's a unit of measurement, like how one might measure their satisfaction with something by saying its "pretty good". It's not good enough to be Good but it's a respectable gauge on its quality. In Gen 4, Sneasel is used enough to be Pretty Used, but shy of the Underused threshold because it doesn't outshine Weavile in any capacity.

>>59693909
Regional forms are for foddermons game freak wants to replace. Pokémon that matter get buffs like megas. The only exceptions have been Raichu getting 2 mega because of game freak raped themselves in the ass and established that only fully evolved Pokemon get megas, and Slowbro getting a regional and that’s only because the isn’t quite important enough to get two megas

>>59694023
>gf wants to replace meowth and pikachu