Takuma editionPokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.>News- Puebla Regionals Day 2 Today>Puebla Streamhttps://www.youtube.com/live/BVfbWmtmdIE?si=4ICw7IyA8vPYl3pz>Resources and useful linksCommunity Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/enDamage Calculatorhttps://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/New Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)Quick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.old >>59671862
1st for FREE URSALUNA
Tyranitar × Excadrill is a trap. Neither of these dudes can stand in front of Sneasler. They both shit and piss themselves at the same Pokemon so there's no point. Normalize Tyranitar and Gholdengo
>>59682845wtf kojo told me that quadrupedal pokemon are supposed to be shit???1
>>59682845sure but no flame orb :)
>on a winning streakI'm afraid to keep playing
Pick your poison:>Heat Wave slop: Charizard/Delphox/Camerupt/Volcarona team where you miss heat wave>forced rng slop: Gholdengo team where you miss make it rain thanks to the stupidest nerf ever>mid sandslop where tyranitar misses rock slide>Archaluslop: cringe boring Archaludon spam>perish slop>$600 slop: Floette team exclusively for rich consoomers, just waste $600 and 100 hours grinding like a slave, goy These are the only viable teams that have ever top cut anything. Shittiest boringest format. Bring back raging bolt balance and calyzama at this point. Bring back urrsaluna, why the fuck should the ugly nonsense bridge be the only overpowered mon? Why does ILCA cocksuck this retarded bridge so much?
>>59682845Ew, no, kill yourself
Give back Nasty Plot right FUCKING NOW
>>59682912I use this. it's funny to me.
>>59682929We have zero good ground types apart from Garchomp.You don't even understand why Ursaluna and bloodmoon would benefit the meta, TR sucks asshole exclusively because of its absence.
>>59682912>still being upset over the bridgeI know this board is full of retards but come on
>>59682929t.archaludon
Puebla Regional Day 2:https://www.youtube.com/live/BVfbWmtmdIEI have no interesting insight to give because we can't see the fucking teams.
The rain team that won Nice is fucking insufferable.
>>59682967>still glazing ILCA's vomit
>>59683003I know your retarded ass began with Champions, but bridge was more busted in SV where is had more options.Did ILCA make that happen too?
>>59683013You're obviously a projecting championsbabby, Archaludon virtually didn't exist in Regs F, G, and I, it existed in Reg H where yes, it had more set variety than leftovers protect and was therefore less boring, the standard was AV which was actually less cancerous than today's Archaludon because it had the downside of not being able to protect. But there were actual options to handle it and counterplay like Ursaluna and ground types in general. Reg H was like Reg M-C but 1000x better with actual items and 1000x more options and teambuilding possibilities. (it had prenerf dire claw and scale shot which were retarded but was overall still less rng-dependent than Reg M-C) Hence for example Lille was won by Ribombee and LAIC by Flamigo, something like that cannot and will not happen in Reg M-C(shit).
>>59683046Did ILCA make Arch or did it take options away from it?fucking champions babby
How come only Europe innovates? America just goes for the cookie cutter meta teams like they are on a life or death situation
>>59683049When Arch was introduced, Ursaluna and Ursaluna Bloodmoon were both already in the game
>>59683054Did ILCA make Arch?If you're going to post the blackest retard shit then at least make it fucking coherent.
>>59683058They shouldn't have arbitrarily put it in the current formats.But either way, the point is not whether it's ILCA's fault or gamefreak's, the point is Champions formats suck.
when new mons? meta is REALLY fuckin boring
>>59683121I heard December
Lycanlass in VR finals.
>>59683223Other team
>>59683226Ko won btw
>>59683223>>59683226what's VR?
>>59683223>>59683226>both finals teams are anti charizard teamsworld is healing
Arthur was bailed the fuck out that match lmfao
>>59683484yeah, freeze is gay as aids
Oh yay I made it back to mb2, surely nothing bad can ha-
Teams are really standard and I don't know any of the players. I will watch the semifinals and finals but that's it
Anyone using decorate on stuff? Mega mence and chomp z work wonders with a +2, charizard tooThe problem is alcremie being slow, thinking of scarfing just for this
>>59683592Redirection is spooky and if they see it on team preview they'll definitely have it.
>>59683506Kyle Livinghouse has been around for a long while. I recognize the name, but I don't think he has meaningful results.Being american, I hope he claims that free worlds invite.
>>59683598Oh true, didn't happened so far, but I can see it
>>59683611He got a double tect g2 and closed it out. I like Froslass so I don't hate that he beat a regA zard team
>last reg>problem match up was basc and the odd glimmora>this reg>archaludon rain with mega golisopodNo matter your team there is always one or 2 matchups that's an uphill battle, give us 7 slots gay freak
>scarf peli with rain dance>on sun rainwhat was bro cooking
What the fuck is taking so long for Top 4
Love when perish trap players think they have my gambit on the ropes and I trick or treat it to escape shadow tag
>>59683783everyone is going to miss their flight.
blaziken and swampert always somewhere up there but never sceptile sad
>>59683867GF just pulled ideas out of a hat with M Sceptile, but the fact they wasted 30 points into it’s physical attack when everything else about it (including its dogshit Lighting Rod ability) is just stupid. At this point the only thing we can hope for is a regional variant that focuses on it’s physical attack stat so it can take proper advantage of its physical moveset.
Buried in all the boring of this regional is the fact that a mexican will not be earning a world's invite.
USAUSA
I like the spic in the "fuck you" shirt.Maybe you should have produced some better competitors from your shit nation.
Life orb garchomp is him.
>>59683881If gamefreak refused to make mega sceptile what it should be, what makes you think they’d change? They did the same thing with decidueye
>>59683964Fucking up Decidueye twice was retarded of GF but they did make Samurott and Typhlosion better than their base variants so there’s a chance a Sceptile one could turn out alright.
Mega Froslass won a Regional? Nice, about time
life orb bax is somehow popping up
I didn't understand at first why people keep setting up stealth rocks in BSS but after the constant Charizard and Volcarona spam I think I get it. I don't mind Charizard as much in doubles but it really couldn't just stay in one lane?
>>59682845Im thinking of giving a free giveaway here of ursalunas once i complete my home dex and the first leg of my gts shiny hunt.
>>59684061Mega Froslass' first regional win is on a Zard team lol
>>59683598The fact that decorate can be redirected is funny but kinda fair
>>59684179He didn't use Zard in the finals so for me that's a win
>the gift Sylveon next month will be maleOh well
Complete shitter here, how long did it take for you guys to become an "intermediate" player in competitive pokemon as a whole? also what kind of pre-built teams (singles and doubles) are the easiest for newfags to pilot and do well with? i'm guessing hyper offense with one mode
>>59683867>>59683964False Swipe Gaming was wrong about speed being everything. If it actually WAS "everything" then Sceptile would be one of the best starters as opposed to being one of the worst.(of course that would be crucifying a "le cool" Pokemon and we can't have that, can we?)
>>59684765I don't listen to singles players, if that's their primary focus then you can just ignore them.
>>59684754zardslop doesn't really require a lot of brain but the amount of people who prepare for it will make you think a bithowever the real answer is hard TR you'll get used to it in maybe a month give or take
>>59684777Sceptile is still useless in doubles though.
>>59682841Im so disillusioned by this game.Deranking in Ultra and low tier balls is completely unjustifiable.Deranking in Ultra makes me want to commit war crimes on greedy chink game devs.its more fustrating than getting Encored, Sleep powdered or missing an attack.
>>59683328Victory Road's Global Challenge, an International weekly tournament
>>59684872 (me)>Global My bad, Global Challenge is a different event. This one is just > VR <current month> Challenge #<week no.>
It's SO fucking over... https://youtu.be/9_-xc7gziI8
Solar beam or Leaf Storm?Being reliant on Weather is kinda ass whereas 90% Accuracy will always miss, but eitherway Energy Ball fucking SUCKS
>>59684905the only niggas who should be beaming are sunners and meganium
>>59684857You know, sometimes I hit a wall in masterball and feel bad about it, but then I see people like you that can't even reach masterball and it reminds me that things could be so much worse.
>>59684857I'm really not trying to be rude but how do you get stuck at Ultra or even derank?You can get to masters playing meme teams.Like, even if you just copy one of the top teams you would have more wins than losses. So are you using your own team and failing?
>>59684857I'm just going to be completely rude and tell you that you're dogshit at this game
>>59684905Sludge bomb earth power and giga drain
>>59684924>>59685155Not OP, but I'm a newfag who is unironically in the same boat even while using Dorian Kang's replica team.Instead of just crying over every loss I'm at the point where I'm analyzing each game and learning where I went wrong, but losing a lot still feels like absolute shit especially while I'm still in Ultra Ball.
>>59685251I can tell you're a newfag for the misuse of the term OP.
>>59685251You need to master switching and team preview.Whoever cant advance its because they dont know to pick in team preview or switch into attacks.
a lot of people have really conditioned themselves to expect nasty plot and not just a raw make it rain to floette's face
>>59685251I understand. I would recommend to use a top tier team (like a tournament level team) and practice with it. It wll be easier
>win off of crit and flinchopp leaves and loses via being AFKsuck it nerd.
If you really want to become good at this game you need to make your own team.You need to pick a cornerstone mon and choose teamates that can cover for or switch into its counters. You need to calc the stats so they will out speed and one shot key threats and survive on 1 hp from attacks. You need to use that same team without changing it until you have mastered your match ups.Do that and no player outside champion tier will outskill you.
>>59685377Is kang's team still a good team to learn with? i'm getting overwhelmed by all this weather-warring
>>59685535I disagree, if you use a team a lot you will master it, it's not that complicated. Actually watching good players pilot it will advance your game in a way that your own bullshit concoction will never reach. The drawback is that it's not as enjoyable to use a team you built yourself and for someone it's a turnoff. Personally I can't find enjoyment unless I use my own team and that's why I'm probably going to be stuck as a mid tier shitter
>>59685582Its about more than just mastering the team. Its about doing your own calcs and speed tiers and deepening your understanding of the roster.All these pros are master team builders and thats why they outplay every matchup.
>>59684857Just read the fucking battle data. Most people do run what the game says they run. People build Pokémon a certain way for a reason. Build your own Pokémon like them. It really isn't that common that you run into complete surprises unless you're playing memeing trolls that never make it out of ultra ball. And even then you should only be hit with the surprise once. Learn the speed tiers. There's only 200 Pokémon. Check battle data to see if most run a speed or attack nature. I think doubles is less annoying than singles where it's just switching out constantly.
>>59684905Giga drain
I made my own team with mega starmie and got to master 3. I used all my other slots to hard counter dark grass and ghost types which threaten starmie. Because of that I keep winning because my hydreigon and incin kill half their team while they are trying to target starmie with grassy glide and sucker punch.
>>59685667Can I suggest a coaching blaziken for your starmie, it works great with mineAlso I was running hasty with ice beam for mega mence, but I haven't seen one in weeks, it was the new toy in the end
>>59685671That does sound cool. Im currently running adamant with ice spinner liquidation and zen headbutt. I think its fast enough for most threats and I have pelipper with tailwind and indeedee with trickroom toom. Which also boosts my liquidation and zen headbutt. My second mega is venosaur because opposing rain or fairy teams are bad for me.
Why is pincurchin such abysmal dogshit?
Almost lost a battle cause I tried to fake out a regular ass rotom
>special MimikyuWhat is this guy cooking
>lose all my games yesterday except against perish>lose all my games today until I faced minimize overqwilRepent motherfucker
>>59685535Agree, it's best to find a cool idea and refine your team to fit the idea and cover for as much as you can, like last reg I started off with after you mega lopunny but I found with tailwind everywhere it isn't such a great gimmick and ended up using quash sableye to make azumaril outspeed mons that resist aqua jet with a +6 play rough, a good indicator of if your team is competent is if there's a way to win almost every battle if you hadn't screwed up your team selection or lost cause of a catastrophic decision you made or an unlucky freeze/crit
>>59684807The only possible scenario I see Mega Sceptile being good in Champions is if the first restricted meta is single one only and it gets paired with Kyogre (Primal or Normal) given they cover each other’s weaknesses pretty well. Regular Sceptile is the face of ‘I got fucked by the physical special split two decades ago’ though.
Why the fuck helping hand goes over fake out, this is horse shit
>finally back at BSS MB4All thanks to hippo and spatk blaziken. And partly bec my last opponent threw the match by running ice beam aqua jet on male basc instead of the usual set
>>59682856>Garchomp claws typed this post.
>>59685905Just fake out the attacker
>>59682867No problem
I have come to a conclusion Mega scrafty is not very good
>>59686038True. Its very hard to make mega scrafty work. Its not tanky enough and has too many weaknesses for a trick room mon.And if you just want to click sucker punch obviously Cringegambit is just better.
make it rain is actually 70 accuracy
>>59686056With spread moves you have two chances to miss so your chance to miss is doubled.
>>59686062yeah but I missed 2 turns in a row and that's haram
How the fuck do I win against Psyspam?
>>59686102park incin or gambit in front
>>59686110Follow me hyper voice then sneasler or basc comes in. Then what???
We finally have teams from Puebla regional where USA WON.https://standings.reportworm.com/2027/pueblaAnother tournament where Salamence has had atrocious results. Started the tournament with 32 in the field, only 2 made it to day 2 and none made top cut.
>>59686135then they're not psyspamming and you know exactly what's gonna happen duh
>>59686038It's sad. If it had gotten a gen 9 evolution instead of a mega, it'd be really ugly, but it'd also have like 120HP for some reason and be a total beast
venuzard really fell off when xchu became popular and niggas wanted sleep nerfed lol
>>59686299sporebros...the newfags know now...
>>59686316Just wait until we can just drift that giraffe straight to the shadow realm
>>59686299I've fought nothing but Charizard in BSS and even one Charizard Venusaur. You can't escape it.
>>59686102Baracat and ape plus gambit core.
>>59686415dragons rule that format they're pretty much non issues
>>59686102wideguard, dark types, terrain of your own, faster mons with spread moves
im doing that thing again where I pick a shitmon and then try to make them win but I keep eating dirt
>>59686576This is my future once I finish my ribbon master(s)
>>59686576but which shitmon
I swear to go this game will end of service and I will never reach Masters.remove Deranking in Ultrafucking chinks
free my nigga
>adamant Mega Swampert outsped Charizard in sunGreediest Charizard I've ever seen
>>59686865What if he clicked dragon tail
>just made it to master ball in BSSCutting it close. I'm glad the game stopped giving me Charizard slop and gave me Golisopod fags to farm instead. Meganium is a hilarious counter to Golisopod. Meganium resists sucker punch, it outspeeds iron head and leech life, weather ball ignores rain and melts it with a 150 power fire move. Alternatively rocky helmet Corviknight farms Golisopod tears.
>>59686782Who get the most use out of it in current rooster? Just meteor beam mons?
>>59686900rainless archsky attack-acro lucha/talon memes
>>59686782>buffed to also skip recharge turns on hyper beam and friendsY or N?
>>59686916ok but only if sylv loses hyper beam
>>59686141I have never lost a battle where my opponent's Mega was Salamence.
>>59687021It's in a rough spot in this low power meta where it's really a bulky support mega, but people were trying to pretend it's some kind of hyper offense king prior to it actually releasing.Salamence did best in 2016 and 2019 in double restricted formats where it just wanted. While it won 2018 worlds, it wasn't nearly as dominant given there were 3 Salamence, 3 Metagross, 4 Gengar, and 3 Zard Y in top 16.
I can't get out of Great Ball
I got to above 1700 points and now I am afraid to play anymore.
>>59687048The worst problem for megamence is people are either running Zomp or building to counter zomp and both cases are bad for megamence.
>>59687106Pick a Perish song team and follow the flowchart. Even a woman cn win in this way
Im gonna grind out my mega floette and shiny volcanion until my pvp anxiety dampens
>>59687273Salamence had a negative usage rate even back in Baltimore while no one cared a out Garchomp Z. Blaming Chomp is pure cope when Zard Y surged under the same conditions and it has just as bad of a matchup.>but it won!lol you'd hope since it was 37% of the field, 31% in day 2, and just 15% of top cut. That negative usage rate at each stage of Baltimore is very revealing about its value to a team.Those stats got progressively worse every tournament and now it has missed cut completely in 2 out of the last 3 regionals.
I'm actually way bored than I thought it was possible. I was thinking of trying a stick web team to have fun. But what mons could I take outsideofthe classics?
intimidate is genuinely atrocious right now
>>59687414Thats why you lead with special attackers or defiant/competitive users.
>>59687331I wanna try a new team but I have 75+ wins with Thievul and I better just stick with that team until I hit the 100.
>>59687414Atrociously good or atrociously bad? I could believe you meant either.
>>59687434>>59687441bad. everyone and their mother is running special attackers and defiant/competitive mons
>>59687441Probably bad in so far as the major threats are special attackers plus defiant, contrary, and competitive are still lurking to switch in.
What's funny is that intimidate is still common enough to severly nerf most physical attacking megas.
>>59687436I'm a scrub that has to tryhard to get to 1800. So I just dont care. You have potential, so keep going.
>>59687282you mean blastoise?
>>59686102git gud.
>>59686102
>>59686576I hope you're not talking about raichu, because base is decent, X has started seeing usage and Y is absolutely retarded
I want to use misty terrain on a Mega Floette team.
>>59687693...why
>>59687693you know misty terrian doesnt boost fairy moves right?
>>59687693Most useless terrain
>>59686141It would be funny if it was actually just better used as a physical attacker like intended instead of coping forcing it as a special attacker.
>>59687818I do think that's its better purpose, but even that's rough because intimidate just screws over most physical megas unless you're a tank like Golisopod with 170 base atk and tough claws where -1 is just removing the tough claw bonus.
>revival blessing on perish trap teamThankfully the guy was a shitter, but i'm afraid of where he copied it from
>>59687223I got to 1220 on the second season, but now I only play one ranked match per day for the mission, I seriously don't know what happened
Whoever posted the dragon cheer gatr team last week ty it's very fun I just swapped protect on salazzle for fake out and it's pretty great
Scrafty would be good if it got parting shot
>>59687934They gave it to him in za just to cruelly rip it away for Champions. The real shame is that he gains 10 speed for reasons unknown to God and man, he would've been a perfect trick room mon otherwise
>>59687923Wait that's genius
>>59687931Is fake out better? I might give it a try then. I just figured it would get outsped by other fast fake out users or cockblocked and protect comes in handy. I've had people fearing it double protect and give me free dragon dance and dragon cheer which is pretty funny. I didn't give EV spreads or natures so I don't know what you went with. How is the rest of the team?
>>59687923All Perish Trap teams are retarded but Revival Blessing isn’t the worst idea with it. It definitely has helped me against it when I ran Pawmot on my team last season.
32+ SpA Life Orb Solar Power Heliolisk Helping Hand Hyper Beam vs. 32 HP / 25 SpD Archaludon in Sun: 199-234 (101 - 118.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Can VGC withstand Lele Dog Rider?
>>59688090Care to repost the team? I wanna give a crack at running gatr
I'm getting tired of praying for Rock Slide to hit both of the Pokemon
>>59688209
Deranking in Ultra is giving players PvP anxiety.I swear this will be the downfall of this game.they better remove it as soon as possible.
>>59687447>>59687447rilla basc sneas chomp raptor sand are still running around and it's still the big value
>>59688362Xchu and Pod too
>lose one battle and then win another one>repeatI'm never going to climb the ranks
Have any of you achieved champion rank?
>>59688179Are you going to give Zard helping hand? (It's a cool set, been done before)Seems easier to just have life orb Venusaur use earth power with helping hand to KO it though.
>>59688515the goal is disrespect really
>>59688480I did this season but I fucked around and fell off
>>59688239Any specific evs?
Mega Scrafty feels exactly the same as Mega Feraligator to try to use.
megamecho literally has no good matchups in this meta extremely cursed mon audino might be more viable
>>59688713Feraligatr is jolly 26 in speed to outspeed modest Garchomp Z at +1. You will not outspeed scarf or timid. Use Milotic. Milotic is modest max HP max defense pretty standard. Feraligatr might outspeed slow as fuck Charizard.
>>59688923Thanks m8, I'ma gonna try and give it a spin after work tomorrow
>>59688870blame golisopod.everyone just uses firemons even more
>>59688870>what slow psyspammer can I use in a trick room team>hey Mega Chimecho has pretty good special attack>oh yeahActively hindered by the ability. In the first place I don't see what steel adds for it when it never learned steel type moves and doesn't have a steel type -ate ability. Mega Chimecho is extremely poorly designed.
Took a break to play other games for a couple months, is the roster and clothes and stuff all the same? Megamence meta?
>>59689480>mencelolhttps://standings.reportworm.com/2027Click on a completed tournament and delve into the usage stats.
>>59689545>Below Basc FOh wow that’sSomething
>>59688090I will not lie to you I did not even test it with protect I just saw that salazzle gets fake out and decided to run it as a snap call and Ive liked it a lot. Faking out the thing that threatens gatr turn 1 has pretty consistently gotten me a DD turn 1 and a protect dragon cheer turn 2. I haven't brought mence yet but the team does seem a little weak to sun and mega golisopod especially but maybe I'm just playing it wrong>evsHonestly I usually just max out the ideal stats and when I feel like I need something more tailored I just check smogon for the stat spreads>>59688923Honestly Ive only brought Milo to match ups against sand I've gotten that much mileage out of salazzle
>make team to counter psy spam>dont see a single psy spam team
>>59689874i havent seen psyspam the whole month bruhat most it's just arma-deedee
Is CharizardY/Mega Floette still meta? Should I use a new team this season?
>>59689874Why even bother making a dedicated counter to psyspam when all you really need is a single dark type or rillaboom?
>>59689908because i like fucking with meme team faggotry?
>>59689914surely you can meme to the extreme instead of focusing on an archetype barely anyone is playing
>>59689900current zard meme is sunrain but theyre still good
>>59689900The "big 6" people currently use is solo Zard.Zard Y, Basc, Gambit, Sneasler, Whims, and Chomp.There are several versions of Zard teams, but they all have Zard and Chomp no matter what. Venusaur is another frequent mon.
>>59686916It always seemed weird it didn't work that way.
>kill my own trick room setter so they can't stall and win with a double protectHeh, never again
>>59690255Why not just hard swap?
>>59690283Safe switch
>>59690290Fair enough its a big balls play I'll give you that.
>>59690255Imprison is a good TR tool. I've used it to some success. You can block counter TR, Protect stalling, and other stuff if your user has access to it.
>>59689874Do you have a Mega Metagross on your team, BTW? I discovered the other day that it's probably the best Steel Roller user, by far.
>>59690320>Megagross with Rilla and deedee teammates repeatedly switching back and forth for nonstop Steel RollersSounds troll, but then again this entire meta is troll.
>Stunfisk doesn't get Rising VoltageFuck this gay Earth
100 wins with my girl. What now?
Goddamn, when was the last time there was a /wfg/ thread? Years? I wanted to transfer a milotic the champions but I need help evolving my feebas
>>59690577SV is a dead game, has been for a while. wait till winds and waves comes out.
>>59690587>wait till 2027 to use dream ball milotic in championslife is suffering
>>59690577>matthew leaves>thread perma dies
>Guillotine Kingambit
>>59690652OHKO moves always hit raichu y
>>59690747would be extremely funny and galaxy brained for someone to leave in a gambit vs a raichu Y just to pull that off
New special ruleset happens next month. Only Pokemon able to mega evolve are allowed. That's right, no Incen, no Kingambit, Sneasler, Bax, Arch, Whimsicott, Rillaboom etc.Everyone doesn't need to hold megastone. So prepare yourself to face Char Y with sleepowder Venusaur in almost every team.On top of my head, I think Sableye and (male) Meowstick might be the only prankster mon in the set. So prepare to se Sableye to be the support mon.
>>59691197>baxYes bax
>>59691197>BaxShit my fat fingers bad, I ment Bac/Basc as Basculegion. Baxcalibur is obviously in.
>>59691197Serebii have a allowed list: https://www.serebii.net/pokemonchampions/onlinecompetitions/megaevolutionbattle.shtmlNot many speed control options. Char + Venu or Tyranitar + Excadrill will most likely be the top performers. I don't expect to se any Perish trap or trick room teams.
>>59691197>sleepzardfake out venasaur, set up tailwind dactyl.
>>59691223I've been saying this
>move a Vivillon from Z-A to Champions for a special iconI really don't want to go through Home stock market again trading back up after trading down for a Vivillon
>>59691223Or just use taunt with Sabeye or Mewstic
>>59691197>zard-chomp-venu-floette coincidentally untouched
>>59691310>and rain deleted
>>59691221>Staraptor>Kangaskhan>SlowbroTrick room is doable. But most likely it's going to be Charizard vs sand.
>Aerodactyl for tailwind and Rockslide spam>Sableye & Mewstic for support3 slots left for countering Char, T-tar and Floette (yes I know Aerodactyl is good against chard).Is Mega Metacross good against both Floette and T-tar?
>>59691361yeah but exca kills it
bringing xchu-lucha and will continue owning weathertards
>>59690747Im not using faggot ass Ychu though
>>59691221>>59691197Bulky support Gyarados, my beloved...
In a mega-only mon format, I just don't see how you beat the Zard Y and scarf Chomp lead.
>>59691197>>59691221I do monotype so I just barely have enough Pokemon to make a full team - 6.
>>59691537put bax or nite or gyara in frontif you wanna be spicy mega obama lead
>>59691563Bax is a meme put forth by unserious people.
>Scovillian have 5 less speed than VenosaurFuck, I thought I found a decent chlorophyll mon against a Chard & Veno starter.
>>59691574your loss buddy
I'll just bring the M-A Zard Venu Chomp and Aero core desu
>dedicated battle sim>took them 6 months to finally do an alternate ruleset competitionI will forgive them as long as they start doing them regularly
>>59691197I don't think this will be a "great" meta game per se but I do think it'll create interesting teambuilding challenges. Notably the only legal terrain setter is mega raichu x which shuts down stupid sleep powder nonsense so expect to see a lot of that>>59691323>slowbro trick roomFun idea but you'll need a lot of support for it. I love megabro tho so if you get a workable team for him once the meta drops please post it
>>59691619Every other weekend doing a meme ruleset would be sick, minus regional weekends etc. Champions app should also be advertising regionals and internats, wtf are they doing senpaiI want a 2v2 doubles like terrastal crescendo.
>>59691197Mega camerupt with trickroom malamar will sweep this competition.
Drampa stocks rising in this competition.
>>59691619I fucking know, right?I want stuff like Tiny Tourney, Scary tourney, etc again
>>59691664>>59691828They will probably add stuff like that eventually.They are drip feeding content into this to give it the gacha content arc basically.
>>59691828Check out what seasons run on ZA. Hopefully we get to that level of fun at some point
When they add melmetal I shall make a team for it..
>>59692034basedo
Pelipper is the best pokemon in VGC. If you are building a team you have to lie to yourself in order to not bring pelipper.
>>59691537If I know what you are going to lead with 100% I can just pick 2 mons that beat it and I will win 100%
>>59691537Mega Starmie and Fake Out Blastoise with rain dance.
Should I be running Tsareena with bulk, speed, or should I just go back to using Rillaboom? I'm just so sick of fake out spam
>>59692332I liked bulk, adamant 22hp 18Atk, 17Def, and 9Spe.Sitrus berry as the item. Survives adamant dire claw, trop kick KOs most Basc sets, and the speed meant you outsped Aero with tailwind.
Samurott Hisui has incredible coverage right now and hits quite hard. Issue is it's weak to a lot of prominent types like fight, electric and fairy but I feel like it can shine. Will enter the global challenge with that and see how it goes
>>59692495I tried using it recently. Had some good games with it. Its damage is just quite not enough though. Lot of things survived on with a sliver of hp
I miss her
>>59692541Would be so good in this meta
>>59692494I will try this. You prefer Trop Kick to Power Whip? I'm using Wide Lens but I'd probably switch to sash
im trying to make non mega delphox work and not succeeding
>>59692537I like the stat changes GF did to H Samurott and H Typhlosion but they should have gone nuclear with them by reducing the attacking stat they don’t use to make their primary one a lot better. I liked H Samurott in the last reg with Froslass but it always felt like it was just shy of getting the OHKOs it was trying to get.
>Rain is unplayable because there isn't a SINGLE mega that sets up rain
>>59692815Just use rain dance.
>>59692552I never run bulk with sash, sitrus definitely.Trop Kick is just less scary when you're probably running Triple Axel and Zen Headbutt already. (Run Zen for Sneasler, you survive dire claw for a reason)
>>59692815Rain is busted dude.That one with female basc, Raichu, Arch, etc that won Nice is fucked.
>>59692833He is talking about in the mega only competition I assume
>>59692693Life orb would probably let it get the kos but I felt like it really needed choice scarf.
>>59692908I ran mine as a glass cannon with Black Glasses for SP and Night Slash. Other moves were Sacred Sword and Protect. LO was already being used by Chomp
Hey anons anyone got a shiny Hisuidra lying around? Would appreciate it Arceus bless you bros
>>59692815sableye stocks rising
>mega greninja extrasensory>gets a crit AND a flinch in the same moveyeah ok
Is choice scarf Tyranitar common? I would have clutched a game from a near loss situation had the Tyranitar not outspeeded my Basc-F who was max speed.
>>59693206No but it's also not never done. I forget what team it was used for.
>23 hp raichu-x against 43% indeedee>have electric terrain up>decide to fake out to get chip>they have rocky helmet, i diefeels bad because i had a decent chance of winning that one
>>59693224haven't seen one that wasn't rocky this season assume it always is
Finished Day 1 at 962, so not bad I guess? I realize this is definitely a meme tournament with all the Bo1 sets now, though, and not a reliable way to get championship points.
>>59693248You just have to be the best of your region do you not? So all the Jap names are irrelevant.
>>59693261Maybe? Is there a way to check your regional standing compared to the entire tournament? I did see a lot of jap names but I didn't do too poorly either, just a lot of meme and weird bullshit (like a Farig that kept spamming protect and a Torkoal that kept using Eruption into my Wide Guard over and over)
>>59693277https://championships.pokemon.com/en-us/about/pokemon-vgc-global-challenge-grand-challengeHmm never mind I guess it's overall placement and you need to be top 1000 to get any points at all.
>fell asleep early and woke up in the middle of the night Im gonna have to do 30 tomorrow fuck. Im groggy and it's nip hours.
>>59693248No the vast majority of people even really good top tier players aint getting any meaningful points. You have to go to locals and at least 1 regional to have any chance of making it to worlds.
>>59691578Do people even run max speed tho?
I'm playing without a dedicated trick room counter for the first time, navigating that bullshit is so satisfying, and I speak as a trick room lover
>>59693391I have trickroom on my indeedee just incase and they usually just ff when I reverse trickroom the first time.
>Done 8 out of 15 daily matches>6 battle win streak and am at 2121Stopped for a few hours but am now scared of jumping back in.
>>59693261It's the opposite. It's the nips who don't have to care about gaijins since these dumb online challenges is one of the few ways they can earn points for worlds.
It is always nice to win a battle with random burst of skill (luck). But to be honest Galarian Slowbro can be surprisingly good against pokemon that have a quad weakness to its move pool it can one-shot Salamance, Garchomp, Sneasler, Mega Golisopod, and Scizor consistently.
>>59693437It’s also for the South Koreans too. Kind of interested to know why these two groups (especially the latter) get special treatment.
>>59693560From what I've seen, their tourneys are bo1s aside from the top cut making it an absolute clown show. So I don't mind if they get special treatment in these online bo1s.
I want botniggers removed from the game.
>>59693499You are evil but the fact that you trolled delphox milo mitigates that
>>59693499I've been looking at building an off meta TR/psyspam team and this might be the one
>>59693416are you top 100 or something? How the fuck did you get 600 points in 8 matches anyway
>>59693766nevermind you talked about the rank not the elo. kek
>>59693063I don't know if you are Still there anon but there you go
>>596934161000 more spots and you get those sweet 3 points bro, as long as you hold the line until it ends LMAO
>>59694049She's PERFECT. Thanks anon bidoof blessings to ya
What's the verdict on mah boi Golisopod?
of the last 5 heat waves my enemy has usedi have been double burned 3 times lol!!!!
>>59692034Has Melmetal been legal in any formats? Have any mythicals for that matter?
Should I keep a Skarmory in a beast ball or heavy ball?
>>59694753In secondary mega hell
>stuck in Great Ball 4I really need a new team
>>59695028Of what? Doubles? Show your team then.
>>59694966Yes.Can't remember the season numbers in SwSh, but in SV it was Reg J.
>>59695028If you need any pokemon for a team some of us here can always help you, you just need Home
>>59695033>>59695049https://pokepast.es/b158517bf29919e2Yeah, I've been running this doubles team forever and only got up to Ultra since I barely play
>>59695059bro... you need to fix your team
>>59695059The old Big 6 hasn't been the sauce for a while.Too many bad matchups, the EVs could also be optomized to actually do something too. Zard is the only one that looks like it had any care. 1st order of business would be to run scarf on Chomp though for the bad Ychu matchup.
>>59695079>>59695088I've been considering trying Psyspam and Golisopod rain team if they're better options
>>59695090Try these spreads.
>>59695059>>59695079>>59695088There is nothing wrong with that team or those stat spreads though? Having a random 9 points in special defense isnt going to solve anons problem. If he cant make master with that there is a gameplay flaw happening.
>>59695136It's just weak into new matchups which can be fixed by a couple tech changes like Sunny Day Whims as well as scarf Chomp to deal with the Ychu.There are better teams out there than big 6, but all it needs is some tweaking to make its bad matchups better. The evs matter too, like what the fuck is Basc going to do against rilla in a 1v1 endgame without that spread, just die to glide? Nah, just live and win instead.
>>59695156I'll tell you what anon needs. He needs the THE ONE. THE ONLY. THE GREATEST POKEMON IN THE WORLD! INCINEROAR!
I lose all motivation to play this game after I hit masterball tier (for both doubles and singles). attempting to reach master 1-2 or champion rank doesn't seem that appealing
>>59695181probably only realistic at the beginning of the season if you can't no-life grind
>>59695183Do the points even reset per season?
the so-called washed pros can climb to champion easily with shitmons tho
>>59695173Nobody uses Incineroar anymore
>>59695292Didn't stop it at Louisville.
I'm too lazy to start the global challenge
give me the gholdengo spread that doesnt instantly die to anything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbkT-_ntpm4
>>59695156how is it any good to live Glide if it gets outsped and raped by wood hammer? your meme spreads are useless without context as well, you have spreads mainly yo enable you to choose between one play and another, not to randomly live at 1 hp
>french regional during the race riots>polish regional during coup
What kind of country is gdnsk? lmao
>>59695292lol
>Gardevoir's trace copied Venusaur's chlorophyllKek
>apparently there's a government takeover in polandyes, great time to host pokemans tourney
European tournaments man
hippowdon mentioned
Will my Pokemon lose their Alpha mark if I transfer them to Champions?
>>59695734no
>Dragon Dance TTarBased
Why is he saving the mega?His opponent has no weather control
>>59695614How fast is your rilla set anon?
God i fucking hate luckers. I have to deal with getting critted through my defense buffs, getting 3 turns of sleep every single time my opponent gets a sleep powder off, and I deal with disproportionate amounts of my moves missing or getting full para'd etc, but my opponents just click their moves when they are put to sleep or paralyzed and they just to play like nothing happened! First turn wake up every time, never lose a turn to paralysis. Fucking rigged game.It wouldn't be so bad if it was against decent players but I have to get stuck with fucks who dont play around the rng, they just make shit plays going "hurdee hurdee hurrr this will work out fine!"
Sandbros...
Why are there 170 spanish players and only 85 polacks? lmao
floette just never feels great to fight ever
>>59695795Sleep only lasts max 2 turns(actions). So if your opponent is faster and put you to sleep you have a small chance of awaking next turn and if not you are guaranteed to awake the turn after that. Sleep is only backbreaking when they put you you to sleep at the end of the turn think yawn or them being slower than you and acting last then you have potentially two turns where you can't act. For paralysis they nerfed the chance of losing your turn so you shouldn't expect the opponent to lose turns to paralysis outside of extremely bad RNG (Myself being unable to act due to paralysis for 5 consecutive turns before) so only think of it as speed control with a small chance of negating an opponents turn. Otherwise I can only say run lum berry or better pokemon to reduce the chances of these events occuring to you.
>>59695814it's broken, it won Worlds for a reason. The only saving grace is that most people don't have access to it on the ladder
I always get greedy with using all my plays even when I'm ahead. I lost to a perish trap team. I guess ending at 550ish isn't bad though.
>>59695822do you think this standing won't change in two days?
>>59695819Sleep can last 3 turns, are you retarded?Is it worth reading any of your long ass post if you're wrong so early?
>>59695823It will but I'm happy with top 10k at least. What always happens is I don't quit while I'm ahead and I go on a 10 lose streak on the last day. When I would have been better off not using all my plays.
>>59695047Oh good, can't wait to get my shit pushed in by Mega Magearna
Sceptile always disappoints
I swear I have to start playing as if my opponents are NPCs. Why the FUCK did this idiot bring his Grimmsnarl after he saw I lead with my Golisopod? He had no fire coverage!! What possibly could have let him think that was a good idea?
It's amazing how you can take a sample of 8 teams and 6 of them have Zard.He's so back.
>>59695876sorry, meant to add 8 undefeated teams
>>59695878now that's SOVL
the funniest part about all this is how all sloptubers declared him dead at the start of M-C
>>59695878What's Gliscor do?
>>59695937Not totally clear to me, but I'm sure it's good into the Raichus.
>>59695937Immune to electric, hyper cutter, good attack and speed
>>59695937good matchup into sand sun and raptor and sneedincinerilla
>>59695952and raichus
>>59695941>>59695942>>59695952Thank you
Gliscor is another tailwind setter too potentially, its movesets are really good, but it has very little offensive presence.
>>59695966it's not that scary on neutral but you can make it kill what it needs to pretty easily
total RaichompZ balance death
All roads lead to Zard Y
>>59695825Apparently you can't read. I state that sleep blocks 1-2 actions. Pulled from bulbpedia:>In Pokémon Champions, sleep now lasts 2-3 turns, meaning it prevents movement for 1-2 turns.I'll give you that perhaps I could of stated it more clearly but what I said isn't wrong. Here is the clearest explanation:>First attempt to move: 100% chance to stay asleep (0% wake up).>Second attempt to move: 66% chance to stay asleep (33% wake up).>Third attempt to move: 0% chance to stay asleep (100% wake up—guaranteed action).You claiming to lose 3 turns from sleep makes you sound retarded from my perspective since that isn't how sleep works in Champions.
niggers running scarf salamence just to troll in global challenge. I hope that faggot gets a stroke
>>59696021Everyone just cheeses and uses retarded sets in the GC to catch people by surprise
someone makes an anti meta team theres always glimm or kommo o somewhere in there
>>59696021I once had scarf moxie mence rock flinch me to death in high ladder funniest shit ive seen
>>59696023>>59696026I wouldn't have been this mad had the retard not haxed me
The game doesnt want me to win. Out of the last 10 attacks that have landed on my pokemon 7 have been critical hits.
>>59696169Um, heh, bro your Lucky Chant?
>>59696187didnt gen 8 remove it
closed teamsheet is a mistake
I like all the meta pokemon are the ugliest niggers you could possibly imagine
Everyone complaining about the current meta cheese don't know that they can just use Vaporeon and win the game
>>59686102Steel roller mega Metagross or normal Metagross paired with a dark type hard counters it.I prefer normal Metagross as it's mega is kind of underwhelming and I'd rather slot a different mega to fight alongside it.
