Why are these games worse than Sun and Moon?
>>59680770Both games were dogshitOlivia could ride my cock, though.
>>59680770More content than Sun and Moon, easily clears the originals.
>>59680770>ultra necrozma is a mandatory boss fight to progress the game>level 60>takes place BEFORE the elite four + champion, which are in the mid level 50s>one shots your entire team>Masuda wanted the games to be easy for the "iphone generation"Are they fucking retarded?
>>59680770Because despite technically having more content, it completely fucks the pacing and story of SM. And no, "Story was never important in Pokeymanz games" is not valid when GF made a conscious choice to focus on story in SM and force feed everyone with dozens of cutscenes.
>>59680809To add on to the cutscenes bit, USUM has MORE cutscenes than SM. Fucking kek.
>>59680801One level 60 mon is easier to beat than four level 50 mons, yes
>>59680991If you don't have something that happens to deal with it it can outspeed and one-shot entire teams with its omni boost.
>>59680809This. The Ultra stuff should have been a postgame story instead of something that just happens and derails everything that the game had been building up. Rainbow Rocket was an okay boss gauntlet, but it would have been better if we got some kind of reward for it like a ribbon and it was repayable like an alternative Elite Four.
>>59680770Both of them are shit because the games went woke with sun and moon removing gender options
>>59680770Only the story retcons are worse. Gameplay-wise it's better.
>>59681530there's definitely still gender options, so im going to assume you mean the game doesn't directly ask you anymore. And there's a reason for that, because in XY they added race options. SM are just covering both race and sex in one screen rather than awkwardly transferring over to another one like XY did. Im sure little Timmy doesn't need to ask which one is the boy and which one is the girl. There's nothing woke in the first place
>>59681327Rainbow Rocket could've been SO much better.>TM/TA on Melemele Island>TG on Akala Island>TR on Aether Paradise>TP on Ula'Ula Island>TF on Poni Island>Include the original plan of RR Giovanni be an old TR grunt and include the real Giovanni stopping them once and for all alongside Red and Blue.
>>59680991Depends on the individual Pokémon and the way it's built.Ultra Necrozma outspeeds and one shots almost everything that's available at this point. Only ways to beat it consistently are either Illusion, or Toxic Stall.
>>59680770These games would have been perfect if they just opened the islands up the moment you got to one. Keep the same island order but have zero road blocks. Of course implement some sort of level scaling for totem mons and youre set. Cut back the dialog just a bit and have major story dumps happen when you first get to and leave an island so you dont miss it.
A third version that doesn’t even fix problems
>>59681969so it's like Pokemon Platinum then
you guys are boners. these three are my heroes
>>59681939i dunno, alolan muk clears it pretty easily. even at 50 it survives anything ultra bitch can do.screech, die, max revive, black hole eclipse for the OHKO. nbd.
>>596819730/10 Ragebait.
>>59681973>obligatory contrarian
It removed the date with Lillie where you visit a new island and instead had an old man take you there. Unplayable.
>>59681939-Which is bad game design. It's paradoxical to the amount of hand holding in this game.
>>59680770I honestly enjoyed USUM more than SM despite the objectively worse story, that being said, they should have been sequels in the vain of B2W2. A lot their issues would have been fixed if had told their own story based off what was set up in SM and introduced in USUM>Seeing how Alola has changed in adapted to major changes such as having a traditional Pokemon League or Gladion leading the Aether Foundation >Letting the Ultra Recon Squad actually do something instead just awkwardly editing them into preexisting cutscenes >Giving Lille' Kanto arc an actual conclusion
>>59682246Gyms are the biggest missed opportunity in USUM and could've saved those games. For those aren't aware, we were supposed to get Gyms in SM, as the Teraleak details where these Gyms were located, who the Leaders were, and what their Badges would be called. >Gym 1: Hau'oli City - Love Badge - Ilima (Normal)>Gym 2: Heahea City - Justice Badge - Sun - Dexio (Psychic) - Moon - Sina (Ice)>Gym 3: Royal Dome - Passion Badge - Ryuki (Dragon)>Gym 4: Konikoni City - Respect Badge - Lana (Water)>Gym 5: Malie City - Modest Badge - Sophocles (Normal)>Gym 6: Route 14 - Vigorous Badge - Sun - Guzma (Bug) - Moon - Plumeria (Poison)>Gym 7: Route 15 - Enjoy Badge - Molayne (Steel)>Gym 8: Seafolk Village - Innocent Badge - Mina (Fairy)Obviously, I don't think these would be the final Gym order if we DID get Gyms in the Alola games. I mean, Ryuki as the third Gym Leader that specializes in Dragon types? However, if they really wanted to emphasize the, "This isn't the Alola you thought you knew", quote from the USUM marketing, Gyms would've made a big difference.
>>59681902>include the real Giovanni stopping them once and for all alongside Red and Blue.it would be cool if Kusaka adapted that for the SM manga. I know it's not in volumes yet, but using scrapped ideas wouldn't hurt right?
>>59682323Weird names for the Badges
>>59680801Used a prankster Cottenee to paralyse to I can actually hit it. I suppose toxic/protect dopamine would also work
usum were probably the only "third versions" to make the game worse by removing a bunch of shit, adding the franchise's only superboss before the story was even over, and then having the most pointless postgame quest ever made
>>59682323Seems like the Badge names have one theme that ties them all together
>>59681995Ok but what if I don't wanna revive my shit?
>>59682323>For those aren't aware, we were supposed to get Gyms in SM, as the Teraleak details where these Gyms were located, who the Leaders were, and what their Badges would be called.Pity you missed the most vital part of that whole explanaton where they'd be set up in the POST-GAME due to the Champion (the player) being from Kanto and Kukui wanting to marry "his" league to "your" framework (as he canonically entered the Kanto gym challenge). Gyms weren't supposed to be in the game at the start, they were supposed to be an afterthought full stop.
>>59682614Get better lol
>>59680782>ugliest girl that genbut why though
>>59680801Filtered
>>59683119You must be a Lillie enjoyer.
>>59682323Such missed potential...
>>59682625if we ever get a remake it should be added to postgame for sure (or directly into the main game if a sequel)
>>59680770A third version that eschews story for more content the one time its regions’ story its actually good. Hilarity ensues.It did give me Naganadel though, so I can’t complain.
I have a team that can’t be unlocked from the battle box and there’s no way to unlock it due to servers closed.
>>59683428Lana, actually
>>59683906That explains a lot.
>>59680770Because Ultra Megaslopolis was the worst thing Gamefreak ever made.
>>59682666What if I'm at my peak?
>>59684070god forbid i choose the actually cute one instead of the negro
>>59680770They weren't, they were more feature complete and content rich. Replaying the Alola games reminded how good they look too>>59680782Poor taste in games great taste in women
>>59685032>great taste in womenThanks
>>59680770Because they ruined Lusamine.
>>59683841>if we ever get a remake it should be a new game project and utterly change how it got developed to add post-game autism soothers for meLet me guess, you're one those babies I've seen in the Zeldashpere recently sperging about how all the cut content from OoT's OG dev cycle was going to get revived and re-added, despite Nintendo clearly saying this was a remake of the game that existed and not the bgmae they'd wanted to exist going into the actual project development of OoT.
>>59685939You're welcome anon, it's important to acknowledge the good qualities in the people we disagree with >>59683841Honestly I would much rather get new areas to explore if we got alola remakes. Add a moloka'i island to the south we get to visit
>>59680770Storyfaggotry
>>59680801You can literally trivialize thet fucker with high friendship
>>59681902>>Include the original plan of RR Giovanni be an old TR grunt and include the real Giovanni stopping them once and for all alongside Red and BlueDann, that sounds kino. Way better than what they teased after the events
>>59687052Isn't most of the shit they wanted to add became Majora's Mask and Master Quest anyways?
>>59687052>>59687118>zeldafags
>>59687127I was asking a curious question
>>59680770These games should've come out on the Switch instead of Gamefreak stealing money from diehard fans that buy games for a dead console
>>59689259Oh anon, it would have the same problems just on a better console
>>59689259it took Game Freak too long to port the engine from one console to another with the same OS, 90% similar graphics API and sinilar CPU instruction set and the result was the same visual fidelity just at a higher resolution but worse frame rate.
>>59683119Still better than Nessa
>>59690683*Jacinthe
>>59691260Bait used to be almost believable.
Nessa > Olivia > long break > Jacinthe
>>59680770The story it forces you to watch for 20 hours is a step down from the original.
>>59680770These niggas unironically added EVEN MORE interruptions and tried to pass it off as "extra content" All this while making the story worse than the original USUM is literally a fucking scam worse than CP2077
>>59691616The relationship between SM and USUM is like that of Colosseum and Gale of Darkness. The first one's tone and story is better, but all of the gameplay-related changes in the other are objective improvements.
>>59691450No
>>59681995This alolan muk is a must catch every time I play these games and with how useful he is throughout the game yeah he deals with ultra necrozma quite easily.
>>59681056>if you played this JRPG wrong up to that point you get punishedyes? that's how it has always worked ever
>>59680770Fuck these games
>>59680801>>59682553even easier than that they give you can get a focus sash before this just use destiny bond and you can cheese the fight.
>>59680801That's what happens when you let out-of-touch faggots in charge of the biggest franchise in the world.
>>59695461I wouldn't say they're out-of-touch, moreso blissfully unaware.
>>59680770It ruined Lusamine.
>>59697156Trvth nvke
