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    S12 is here
    Destruction has been totally overhauled
    Old maps have received tons of tweaks and additions
    Heavy has gone on weight loss, Light has started their fat little chud journey
    New playstyle for Light: Prop Hunt
    New bodystyle for Medium: Gooner
    New paypigstyle for Whales: $50 bundles
    Large balance changes and new features for gadgets, specs, and guns
    Sponsors reworked, old rewards vaulted, 50+ rewards for each sponsor in new system
    Scotty can now say thinly-veiled slurs
    Buncha other shit

    Join "Vidya" to find other anons
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    >>3093363
    >>3094442
    >$50 skin
    >Embark dewokeified female Medium not even a month after the shit they pulled in Arc
    There is absolutely no way they are this desperate. Wasn't it stated on actual earnings reports that the game has grown in revenue? Feels like I'm missing something here.
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    Need tips. Is the ARN220 a good gun to use with Light? I like the V9S but I get a little tired always pressing M1. M11 sucks at range and the recoil is unwieldy for me. I am not that good at real close range fights.
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    >>3094495
    The simple answer for the $50 skin is that this is a Light season. They're advertising to Lights, they're catering to Lights. Light gets a new playstyle and effectively had 90% of its arsenal buffed with only 10% of its weapons nerfed, and even then it's a localized nerf.

    Lights have also always been tryhard faggots that always spent way more on edgy or tacticool cosmetics. It started back all the way in CB1 with every Light wearing the Urban Operative set. Then they were the quickest adopters of paying for the Metro Drifter set when it was one of the first big deluxe skins. Then they also all used the IVADA Stryker set, although that one's iffy because many also got it for free from Game Pass

    Point being, it's all about the Lights this time, and the Lights are genuinely dumb enough to spend $50 on a grim reaper set
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    >>3094505
    ARN is great but it's more of a medium range gun than close up.
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    >>3094527
    That sounds good for me. I was trying the XN if that's what it's called. I don't think it jives with me.

    Anyway is there a way to see all rewards of the new sponsors?
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    Can you not see what the sponsor track gives you before signing up for them anymore?
    Also can you still leave that sponsor and sign up with another one like before? Or are you locked in?
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    just as I expected, this season sucks as a medium main
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    >>3094538
    >>3094537
    You can't see all the rewards, but you can preview the ones currently available. It's divided into challenges which aren't all currently available. I'm guessing as the season progresses more challenges will be unlocked to unlock more stuff.
    But you can just sign up with one, see what's available and if you don't like it then leave and sign up with another.
    A little weird but it seems Embark wants completing sponsors to feel like more of an actual challenge than something you passively do playing the game like before.
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    >>3094577
    I think it's a good solution, but you just know eventually you'll run into some bullshit you don't want to play and have to slug through it. I picked iseult too and had a fun game flashing everyone on point break.
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    Slam a rama is the most dog shit gamemode wtf. Everyone just bounces on a big jump pad and hopes to get someone who's not also doing that.
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    >>3094560
    M hasn't had a good season since their reign of terror in S1 and 2. it's always some version of L or H trading blows for most OP.
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    >>3094495
    Embark said something like they wanted more bodytypes in the game, and the reason for the flat chested girls was because they didnt want to do gendered sculpts for the cosmetics (IE adding tits to every top in the game). Arc actually has the opposite issue, like half the cosmetics in the game have tits and it looks awkward on the male characters.
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    >>3094454
    umm so what are the biggest weapon buffs and nerf this season?
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    >>3094692
    Yeah they gave female medium two canons under her shirt. Huge buff.
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    >>3094514
    >t. reddit heavy shitter
    Yeah, let's just ignore how medium got sonars and dome shield has twice as much HP now, not to mention various buffs for their weapons
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    >>3094527
    >it's more of a medium range gun than close up.
    It's good for all ranges, the rpm is insane on that thing
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    >>3094577
    Do these challenges progress in bot matches?
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    >>3094778
    noice, i shall take good time to inspect my healslut loadout
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    >tfw have edgy unreadable username straight from 2009 so Scotty will probably never say my name
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    Old sponsors are gone, and I had almost finished Engimo. Damn.
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    >>3095013
    wtf, im ingame and almost didnt notice... im sad now
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    >>3094630
    Im more mad by the fact i choked 4th place at the absolute last second by dying to 5th place
    but yes this shit sucks wtf
    >>
    won my 2nd try at the solo tournament
    thank fuck it was that space fatty mode from last season, which for some reason everyone else sucks at, or just new season players
    (and the TTS AI actually worked out how to say my name)
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    Splatoon mode (or whatever its called)
    but maybe with some kind of destruction twist

    there are shit tons you can do with the solo mode desu
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    >>3095013
    oh yeah, that's odd
    I guess now you'll have to wait again until the sponsors are back in rotation to get the rewards
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    >>3095389
    >>3095013
    >>3095032
    Not only are they gone, all the rewards from it are PERMANENTLY GONE.
    Anything you didn't earn is now unobtainable.
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    >>3095397
    not like that's a new thing, the progression rewards you could get from recon senses are also unobtainable now
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    Seems like retarded solo modes are my calling, thats 2/3 tourneys in a row now
    absolutely shithoused a winch wars win for the first time
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    >>3095397
    oh well atleast i got a good portion of what i wanted
    There wasnt a Cometa one right?
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    >made it harder to ragequit
    >teammates still leave quickcash matches after 30 seconds
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    >>3095430
    There was not.
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    I like the new UI, It's very readable and clear. Except the font they chose for text chat is weird, idk why the lower case g looks like that.
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    >>3095536
    looks blurry and awful
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    >>3094514
    Light is fun to play, but most of them think they're playing COD and offer nothing except stealing your kills. Lost 2 matches back to back, MVPenised both, still fucking lost because retard Lights on the team don't understand how it works. I'm going to find a squad. Fuck this shit.
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    >new UI is blurry
    >sponsor rewards removed
    >cant do bot matches for contracts anymore
    >weekly contracts must be unlocked now, they arent all active at once later in the season if you come back after a break

    why why why
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    >>3094868
    >Medium got Sonar and Heavy got a buffed but decaying shields
    wowowwowoowowwowowowo
    That's totally as significant as two new gadgets and a total revamp of Thermal Senses
    Medium's totally eating: it got something back it should have 10 seasons ago, while also getting passed over in line for a Senses rework. WHOA.
    >not to mention various buffs for their weapons
    Uh, where?
    They pretty much only got minor adjustments to be able to just barely keep a lot of the old breakpoints they used to have against Lights.

    Ah wait, duh, I'm talking to a Light that unironically says "r*ddit heavy"
    It's not like you can really grasp any of this anyways, and I'm wasting my time
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    >>3095397
    I hope they at least consider making old sponsor rewards something you can gain through showtime tokens or whatever the fuck they are. Give something to the people who don't give a fuck about buying legacy passes.

    And I say this as someone that's glad that my CNS Jacket is getting some exclusivity back
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    >>3095857
    It's some bullshit. They give a minor buff to Heavy speed, take away health, and weapons are pretty much the same. The extra rpm on Lewis and M60 feels nice, but it's pretty much the same shit. I don't know about anybody else, but speed wasn't exactly an issue on Heavy. You're a big, easy target, tend to get jumped and the weapons you get don't really have the damage capability to fend off multiple back to back. Nobody is watching the Heavy or covering you. Most retards can't even be bothered to mark enemy locations. Could have at least tossed Heavy a new gun or something.
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    >>3096062
    >I don't know about anybody else, but speed wasn't exactly an issue on Heavy
    Yeah. The speed buff isn't really enough to really matter in a teamfight, and their own data showed meager gains (although they argue gains nonetheless) for cohesion. The ability to actually move a Heavy around quickly and as a team still depends far more on team loadout and choices to be cohesive.

    Ironically, something the data also showed, given that Shockwave directly caused a decrease in cohesion, and Medium wasn't touched at all.

    Similarly, Light also won't be affected by this change a lot. Their most powerful movement all comes from their specs, so slowing down means nothing. The change to the healthpool means that, at worst, they're only at the same breakpoints against unadjusted weapons, and stronger against those that weren't.
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    >>3096185
    It seems like they just want Heavy to be a bitch class where all you're doing is making it easier for your lazy-fuck teammates to swoop in and clean up after you've already done the hard part. It's not really rewarding. They keep jerking off Lights and it's like, why shouldn't I just go do that since they get all kinds of neat shit, have great weapons and is a pretty easy class to play. I don't get it.
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    >>3096247
    >Heavy to be a bitch class where all you're doing is making it easier for your lazy-fuck teammates to swoop in and clean up after you've already done the hard part
    Kinda, but the fact does remain that it kind works

    Like it's the bitch class in the sense that it's all about destruction, and destruction is just so strong in this game that even weapons that are objectively dogshit in all its other functions like the KS-23 is able to end up definitively meta because it has destruction slapped on top.

    Although who knows. Light might actually have a shot at challenging Heavy in that regard too, thanks to using the mimic device with red barrels.
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    This update fucking sucks. Lights did not need more health. Turning this shit into COD.
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    they broke something and now mediums tits are out for all to see
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    >>3096494
    she was born without nibbles ;_:
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    >>3096587
    fell off from too much ospuze
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    >Team 1 will win off cap
    >Team 3 is capping at the last second
    >Team 3 capping will continue the game
    >Team 2 kills team 3 while they are capping
    >Team 1 wins
    Why are people so fucking retarded
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    >>3097843
    Tale as old as time
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    Are ultimate items FOMO? I really want the eagle, but thats it
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    >>3097889
    Yes
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    >>3096702
    You can't prove that. OSPUZE™ is perfectly safe for human and animal consumption.
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    Someone here give a new player the Ultimate pass. All the items there are my type.

    Anyway I need help. I only play Point Break. What should be the specific gadgets to use in that mode for L/M/H?
    I actually don't know how to properly help in this mode. I use Sonars for Lights. Any other gadgets I should be using? For medium I don't know which is better, Shockwave or Healing beam. Not sure about the gadgets there either.
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    How much do I have to play everyday to complete the battlepass?
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    >>3098505
    Basically just do your 3 dailies and 2 optional contracts every day and you should have like 20ish days to spare at the end if you're just looking to complete the pass. That's how its been for the past 6 or 7 passes iirc
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    >>3098511
    What I mean is basically all 14 pages complete. Like until level 106?
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    >>3098701
    Yeah man, you'll be 106 by the end. You still want to be finishing your weeklies along the way for the full XP gains but you should be able to do 90% of them casually along the way. Not sure how extra xp from new sponsors factors in or if the total XP needed is changed. Just my experience since S1, the only one I didn't max out was the aztec one because I thought the green shit at the end was ugly.
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    That's good then. I feel I like the premium there so I will be doing the dailies and weeklies at least and maybe get them if I'm really interested later. As a new player the ones in the Ultimate look great especially the coin skins. Only if it wasn't that expensive.
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    Hey guys, found this cool the Finals channel, pls sub :)
    https://www.youtube.com/@leadscales/featured
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    >>3098326
    Play as a team, be better than the other team.

    but seriously, dont use healing beam like a bot, you have to actually fight and know when to heal effectively rather than just standing behind a light player whos gonna die in 1 hit anyways (unlike in TF2 where theres overheal and ubercharge)
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    >>3099124
    >furry pfp
    >cobson thumbnail
    >first comment is by '@FruityFemboyGaming', apparently your biggest fan
    >wearing some kind of gay gaming sleeve
    >l*ght chud
    ohnonono nusois, what is dis? KEEEK

    dw i subbed to you l33tscales :)
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    the updated raped my FPS into the borderline unplayable
    especially on galaxy estates

    also im getting filtered by this destruction, constantly getting stuck and fucked over for not having smallest hitbox and free movement
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    Do the sponsor challenges work on bot matches now? There are some there that I really don't want to do live.
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    >>3100011
    >the cry of a gooner realizing he needs to get a 5-10elim streak of entirely his own damage to unlock the feet
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    >>3100026
    There's a feet unlock? What's special about shoes?
    Also what you just posted does that mean the later contracts are just way harder?
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    >join quick trash match in progress
    >it's not even close to half time yet
    >see this
    It scares me to see someone that retarded
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    >>3100060
    >There's a feet unlock
    Yes, in the ISEUL-T track
    >later contracts are just way harder
    In the second set of ISEUL-T contracts, one of them requires you to get 1,500 damage in one life. That's damage roughly equal to 4.5 Heavies, 6 Mediums, or 8.5 Lights (not actually 10 because of the Respec change)

    Bit of an immediate jump, but ISEUL-T is also geared more towards Lights, so my guess is they expect you to do it with the Sniper Rifle.
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    >>3100153
    >Yes, in the ISEUL-T track
    I'm in the Iseul-T and I haven't seen any new shoes for it yet.
    >one of them requires you to get 1,500 damage in one life
    I did this using Medium and a Pike and it was horrendous because I was fucking hiding at the back so hard. I really did not like doing this one. That's why I was asking if the contracts now work with bot matches.
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    The KS-23 is what really gets me to hate Lights

    Like, everything about the gun is objectively terrible. Shitty as fuck TTK. Shitty as fuck reload speed. Shitty as fuck kills per reload. Shitty as fuck range. So on and so forth. It has destruction, but then using it for destruction will eat into your ammo even further

    But then it nevertheless became a godlike meta weapon because Heavies actually adapted to it. They played with its weaknesses in mind, and accepted that they'd have longer or potentially riskier engagements if it meant being able to play with all of its features, becoming gods of movement and mastering terrain navigation and map knowledge to get those slaps in with minimal risk to themselves

    It's why even as it gets a ridiculous nerf down to its pre-S11 damage but with an infinitely worse damage falloff from S11, Heavies just buck up and deal with it. They still make it work.

    But then conversely, whenever Light gets anything that's tweaked that allows them to just jump on people and magdump before jumping out, they screech to no end. You tell them "oh just use these tools to keep poking and repositioning to get damage in without risk to yourself" and they will unironically go "you don't need to ambush again if you just kill them, let us just immediately kill them no matter what!!!"

    entitled children is what they are
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    >>3100285
    You clearly got filtered by a high skill weapon
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    >>3100439
    Damn Lights like you not even reading past the first sense

    The whole point is that Heavies DIDN'T let themselves get filtered by a high skill weapon, whereas Lights hate putting the minimum effort in for anything beyond instant gratification
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    >>3100285
    I agree. Started playing again since last season and it's pretty clear to me that the light class is pampered too much.
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    >>3100602
    No but dude, Light has it so bad. The class only has
    >the best movement speed
    >the best hitbox
    >the best regen delay
    >the best regen rate
    >the best repositioning tools
    >recon tools it stole from Medium
    >healing tools to outclass Medium
    >destruction tools to challenge Heavy
    >weapons that can insta-kill all the other classes
    >weapons like the LH1 that still challenge or even outpace the meta weapons for other classes
    >infinite ammo ranged weapons in a game about breakpoints and where counting shots is a strong strategy
    >those weapons both having stable accuracy and no damage falloff
    but like, Dash Sword got slapped a bit and Dagger got a little fucky, so like, it all evens out
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    does anyone else just play cashout half the time because ranked feels like unplayable cancer with how it attracts these useless and ironically lower skill more retarded players especially duos, while also attracting sweaty opponent teams who actually understand the game?
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    >>3100676
    Early seasons in every game are pretty unplayable if you don't have a premade.
    But unlike other games you're not going to run into a stack of rubies in a fucking silver lobby.
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    >>3100698
    silver maybe. gold is a bit more of an uphill battle in this regard
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    >>3100714
    Sorry, I meant you're going to run into them*
    The finals MM early in the season is horrendously bad and will throw the top players into low MMR lobbies because there doesn't seem to be any snapshotting of their previous placements.

    In a sane system there would be soft mmr floors that decays over time instead of this chaotic shitshow for the first few weeks.
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    >>3100153
    >>3100200
    I just did it with the sniper rifle on Point Break, Nozomi Citadel. Thankfully my team blew open the side of the building to get a good scope of all floors, and I'm shit enough at the sniper rifle as to not warrant people rushing over to flush me out.

    I'd say either that on Attack or MGL32 on Defense would do it pretty decently
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    How come I don't see jews anymore?
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    how to revert ui change
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    >>3100823
    why is being obsessed with jews so normiecoded now
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    the one in the chamber mode is the most satisfying solo game and it filters out half the playerbase who cant use guns like the BFR, time melees well without spamming and/or never used demat in their life.
    i was doing shit for the 40 seconds or so and then something primal inside me kicked in and i went like 15-4 by the end
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    >>3100823
    I'm more surprised it lasted as long as it did. The joke was always kinda one-note, especially since all the outfits were roughly the same.
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    >>3100853
    Because it's never been more obvious.
    >>3100950
    I still think it's hilarious.
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    Man playing S12 as someone who has been playing since the very early closed betas, it feels like i'm playing a UE5 remake of a game for "the modern audience"

    or a mobile port of a PC game
    like, it just don't feel right and in some parts it's even worse than before.
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    >>3101152
    to add, every song is a remaster trying to sell me "the good ol days" of the finals and it's all geared towards getting a new type of audience
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    >>3101152
    >>3101204
    As someone who has been playing since the very early closed betas, I'd say it still feels alright. Some of the new changes feel a bit wonky, but them being retards that need to hone in back on things after a dumbass first patch has been par for the course for 12+ seasons now
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    >>3100735
    >The finals MM early in the season is horrendously bad and will throw the top players into low MMR lobbies because there doesn't seem to be any snapshotting of their previous placements.
    That's more because the game is not using a hidden elo system alongside ranked points when matchmaking. Also there just isn't that many people playing ranked in general so no matter what, you're going to get fed to rubby poopsockers.
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    unloading the CL40 bukkake on triple L teams
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    I feel the opposite of most people.

    I hate having this list of challenges to do. I know I could just like, achieve a lot of them naturally, but knowing you can get shit faster if you tried hangs around your neck like an albatross.

    The sooner all the challenges are done and I can just play matches without any lists to do, the better.
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    Is glitter paint really enough of an appeal to differ from the old one?

    Also damn, this made me think to check the weekly contracts. Circuit Rewards are also doneso. I guess that's the tradeoff for having Sponsor Rewards be a shitton of items
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    >>3100664
    Heavy class is beginning to be so unrewarding to play. I've had multiple invis Lights rush me, mag dump me and they survive with just a chip of health. Why the fuck does Light need to be smaller, more agile and have piss-easy high damage weapons? I could just switch to Light and go Call of Duty style, too, but I used to like playing Heavy. They need to give it back some more health or buff the weapons, or something. Nobody actually stays and helps any Heavy players anyway. They wait until they hear the shit popping off and then they show up after you've already died and just pick up a bunch of easy, already mostly dead enemies and act like they did something.
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    >>3102890
    if only one player has to die to secure the point then it's worth it.
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    >can't do dailies in bot cashout
    >wasted half an hour
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    >>3102926
    lol
    shoulda tracked em
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    >>3102908
    That goes both ways. I routinely just leave dipshit teammates to die when they don't offer any help.
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    >>3102933
    i did, it's just bugged and doesn't work
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    >>3102966
    They said they are fixing it in an update. When though?
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    >>3102954
    then it's fine
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    >>3100144
    Average gyrolet gameplay
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    >>3102095
    Maybe you should check for autism, those challenges aren't even FOMO(for now), I only do them when I feel like it, the jumpad/zipline/airborne challenge was pretty fun for me e.g.
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    >>3102246
    >Circuit Rewards are also doneso
    Most of them were kinda bad anyways, I'd rather grind with the new system than wait 2 bloody weeks just to get the fucking Engimo Minigun skin
    >>
    same shit, different coat of paint
    a ligger can just plug it's roller (or DMA card) and just have aim assist on the most bullshit weapons.
    Now with even more chances to survive the encounter
    >>
    >>3103624
    Maybe you should check for my fingers wiggling around your prostate, cause if you wanna be gay I'll give you a hand my boi
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    >>3095677
    The average light player "mains" light and refuses to play anything else all while bitching and crying about mediums and heavies being over powered.
    I seriously believe it was the light whiners which pushed the endless nerfs to all the fun shit in the first year.

    >>3094868
    Holy shit! Jenny, you're still here?
    Damn bro needs to get a life. Shitting up the Finals threads on a dead board for 3 years isn't a great way to spend your life.
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    >>3103918
    not to play devil's advocate, but in S1 (and I'd argue even in S2) light was in fact a throw pick. Wasn't until the health regen was reworked in S3 that light became op and the old XP and then the R93 were incredibly busted.
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    IseulT has masks that look great? But how to get them? I am already challenging for the mythic X54 skin and there's no masks there.
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    >>3102926
    >so bad he had to do dailies in bot mode
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    EU duos in ranked who cant speak english are literally the most braindeadegotistical "offended by everything, ashamed of nothing" retards on the planet, paired with the fact its usually LL or MM with turret because they are incapable of original thought
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    >>3103948
    If you mean the paintball mask that was a sponsor reward before the change to sponsors. So it's unobtainable now
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    >$50 paid skin for skull helmets and wings

    These Swiggers at Embark have lost the fucking plot
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    >>3104201
    No. I mean in the new IseulT one. The challenges are weird.
    >Be Incognito
    >Shed the skin
    >Be okay with looking silly
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    >>3104449
    Idk I guess just wait for someone on reddit to figure out what you have to do.
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    Meh the sponsor challenges are honestly hard for me.
    >First kill in a game 3 times
    >10 kills in a game
    I'm not a good player. So I barely get 10 kills. How much more first kill.
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    >>3104449
    Holy shit, CNS hijacks the sponsor tracks?
    That's actually fukken cool. How far in did you get to see that, and has anyone seen this on the other tracks.
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    >>3104957
    >Can't figure out how to load up tdm and run at someone with a flamethrower or double barrel off spawn until you get the first kill
    I hate how every modern fps game is designed around handless/brainless retards like you.
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    >>3104957
    >. So I barely get 10 kills.
    TDM or point break with whatever you are most comfortable with and just going for easy kills
    Then just kamikaze as light or something.
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    Man. They really fucked this game up with the update. It doesn't play well anymore at all.
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    Cerberus feels extra nice against 325 Heavies. Still shits on Lights but lost 1tap+quick melee=kill which is a shame
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    >>3104449
    could be something to do with the prop gadget or invisibility, since it makes you look goofy if you're tumbling around as a prop, hides you, and changes into an object instead of a fleshy being.
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    Which gun/playstyle got most fucked over by the respec?
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    >>3105963
    Heavy. Took away health from the Tank class for negligible mobility gains. You're treated like en expendable torpedo and it's not worth it anymore. Went back to Medium.
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    >>3106007
    You just know they only did it so lights wont get mad dying to heavies
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    >>3106052
    The game is becoming way too Light-centric. I get it. It's the "gotta' go fast" class for kids that really like the feeling of being some pro gamer, but it didn't need more health as well as all the other benefits of playing it. A Light shouldn't see a Heavy as an easy tally mark and that's what it is now. They outright challenge you with full confidence because they know they'll probably out DPS you before you can hit/finish them. They're way too comfortable challenging what's supposed to be a tank. Fucking stupid. Light players cry over melee while they have the best fucking arsenal of weapons. It's going to get to a point where Heavy just doesn't matter.
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    Is there some exploit people are doing in bot matches? They leave and they're nowhere in the match anymore, but at the end they appear with kills and score. Me and a dude just ran it and the third dude left, but still showed up on the scoreboard like he was there.
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    >>3106007
    Yeah, between respec and the ISEUL-T challenges wanting you to play Light, I've pretty much switched away from playing Heavy.

    Thanks to the health change, you REALLY want to keep your teammates around you now, but that's not happening because everyone's running Shockwave and Grapple and doing Mimic Superdashes or Translocating or whatever the fuck, and even when it sort comes together and you're nearby during fights, it's like, just because you're closer doesn't suddenly mean that randos play more like a team than before.

    Like I'd rather just play Light where the ask is entirely personal: compensate what differences there are in TTK with ambushes, repositioning, constant movement, and deadeye accuracy. That's completely feasible, especially since I already had to do that as the other classes but with way less tools to do so.

    Whereas with Heavy, the ask is "hope to god your teammates will work with you, help you get where you need, follow your movement, and give you backup as you park the bus." That's all outside of my control. I can't do anything about that. Worst of all, it'll never get addressed because people at the high level will have a team that will work together for ungodly effectiveness, and Heavies don't buy enough edgy cosmetics to be catered to in spite of that, so it might never be fixed
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    >>3106495
    Yeah. Most people don't even give a shit about team work. They're only interested in trying to fluff their KD by playing like rats. I lost a match earlier because I'm holding off 2 Heavies and covering an OBJ. Somebody slipped in and stole the OBJ about 10 feet away and I have both of these Heavies on the ropes and can't let off the gas or I'm fucked. Other 2 dudes fucked off who knows where. Do they show up and try to take the OBJ? No. They immediately rush enemies I've almost killed, both of these idiots die, I kill the heavies and we lose. Playing as a Heavy, that's the entire experience. People would rather swoop in just to steal your kills instead of doing anything productive. It's a total rarity to even get people to mark target movements. You have to do way too much while everybody else gets to fuck around. Hopefully, they do something to improve it.
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    I know Embark is busy massaging Light prostates with their tongue, but if they could drop us one of these that'd be great.
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    >>3106557
    Isn't it in the Alfa Acta track
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    >>3106561
    I think it's just this ugly shit.
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    Sweating my ass off trying to get this. 6 kills, 2 assists with sniper light in power shift then I step on a random ass landmine and die. FUCK ME
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    >>3106628
    Point Break is the key. Grenade Launchers and Sniper Rifles on there are a great way to get it without just playing naturally and waiting for that big elim streak you need. Especially since you don't need to keep moving with the platform + you oddly often don't get counter-sniped on Point Break as much

    It's a weird roadblock though. Same for the challenge set after, which is the 10 Elims, 3 First Elims one. After that though, it gets super easy.
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    >>3106652
    Sniper might be the way to go. Just hang back and harass the enemy team. Wouldn't even go for headshots if it's just damage you have to stack up.
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    >>3106652
    >>3106695
    You were right, point break was the way to do it. I did it in one game with MGL Heavy and just playing really defensively. Not that hard at all
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    I wish people would keep their issues with the ultimate pass from tanking the regular battle pass this season.

    Like aside from a couple of dud pages that yeah, would've benefited from something like the Sai being there instead of the mimic device, it's a really good set of outfits, skins, and models.

    Just feels like you can complain about the size of the gap in quality between the Regular and Ultimate Pass as being a problem without saying that the regular pass is outright shit. It being a B-Grade pass that could've been S-Tier if basic versions of the Ultimate Pass items were in it is already scandalous enough. Trying to pretend it's a D-Tier one when certifiably cool shit like the outback dude or the marble outfit exist really comes across as a whole "don't believe your lying eyes" sorta shit when calling it lame
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    I am not having a good day on this shit. Consistently doing "well" but losing left and right. I can't seem to get teammates who aren't retarded. This is fucking brutal man.
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    >>3106830
    I feel that. It's why I'm glad they added the Stay as a Party shit. The minute I find a competent team, I hang onto them like a fukken lifeline.
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    >>3106628
    like >>3106652 said
    grenade launcher + turret and mines got me the 1500 damage first try in point break
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    >>3106842
    Maybe I should try that. I don't make new friends and the 1 dude I do play with says Finals is too sweaty. Always solo.
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    Where to do this? It sucks.
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    >>3107511
    I'd try Quick Cash. Everybody should be running straight to a vault so your odds of fighting early are there. If you don't get it, at least the matches can be short and you don't have to quit. Almost wonder if you can play Light, book ass to a vault and strap a bomb to it and leave without activating the vault so another dumbass Light runs up to it thinking they got there first.
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    >>3097843
    >plays quick trash
    You'd know
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    CNS Challenges

    >Iseul-t:
    Incognito - don’t be on MVP screen 3x
    Shed the skin - use a different outfit and win 2 rounds
    Silly - be eliminated while emoting

    >Ospuze:
    Learn to let go - lose 3 games
    Experience joy - win and be mvp
    Learn to love - 10 revives near active cashouts
    Learn to be free - air time

    >Alfa Acta:
    Feel pain - heal 1.5k passively
    Seek community- say hello 5x
    Tear down walls - damage to arenas
    Minimize waste - sniper damage
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    >>3107668
    I've been at it for a day now. And I just can't get it. Honestly one of the worst challenges.
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    >>3107756
    Thing that sucks is that you'll be locked into whatever because you can't just back out and try again without getting a temporary suspension. You could try the solo mode. First time I played it, I got One In The Chamber. I don't know what other modes are in there because they have that stupid Easter mode reskinned with grenade launchers, but you can basically just try and then fuck around and fail to get cut from the game.
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    Nah light is too strong, I played a few matches and the translocator alone is busted, especially in super tight quarters, you can just set it and then have an immediate exit the second you are at a disadvantage. not to mention that the XP, V9S and LH1 are still super op. Heavy got the shaft right up the ass
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    >>3107782
    This is the one that is stupid amongst everything else. You cannot do any other group of challenges at all if you are hard stuck at this. I was wondering why people were leaving immediately after games where there was only one dead at the beginning of the match. Now I know why. This challenge basically destroys casual games.
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    >>3107830
    Yeah. That's a bullshit challenge. One time would be fine, but 3 times? You could maybe Quick Cash it and hope you get Monoco. Get to the rooftops fast and try to pop a Light in the head with a sniper rifle. Everybody rushes rooftops and one of those fuckers is almost always up there.
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    >>3107511
    >>3107756
    I did it super quickly in Power Shift. You can go Light, zip over to where the enemy team spawns, dive someone, and get it. It helps that people usually spread out pretty quickly in that mode too.

    I wouldn't call myself good, but aside from a few matches where I kept dealing with accidentally dropping onto a queued-together duo, I got it near-immediately
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    >>3107825
    It's really strong as an opener too. Being able to just suddenly appear over people and drop in behind them because you had someone throw a prop far enough above them. Like before at least movement like Grapple you had to do the swing safely, it had a sound, and you didn't launch up so high (and the translocator being a gadget grapple but arguably better is a mess in and of itself)
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    >>3106495
    Worst of all, if you solo Q is a heavy, you WILL get a duo both playing light, and they will play like a duo (at best, otherwise, just mindlessly) and ignore your existence until you are dead an then they run in and try and revive you or steal cashbox while the enemy team is right above with demat
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    >heavy is already a class that's highly dependent on having tight teamwork
    >cut his balls so hard that now you have basically no chance unless you have a pocket medic or someone to draw the heat away
    >casuals tend to not give a shit and just run light
    there is crack cocaine in the swedish water supply. There is no other logical explanation.
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    >Okay okay, listen to this - jellyfish in little ISEULT sun hats? UV protection and editori-ACK!!!
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    >>3108006
    >>3107949
    I did it but man it was so unfun.

    I basically left every game I joined within the first few seconds if I wasn't able to get the 1st kill. I think left like 50+ games? Give or take. I really do not like doing that.
    These challenges are making me not actually play the game.

    Now I'm stuck with the 10 elims per round. This can be done in Point Break. As a shitty player this is hard for me but at least now I can fucking play the game because this is a natural gameplay challenge.

    Now what the fuck is this in the picture? I didn't even know I did it.
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    whats the best video explaining how to consistently use shockwave with jumppad? its like i cant time it anymore unless im going straight up
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    Not sure if it's my potato graphics but the smoke/dust when a building collapses is extremely obnoxious
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    Why all my skins look so washed out now in the loadout menu?
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    >>3109068
    If 10 kills a round is hard, you could probably rat that one. Steal people's kills and maybe keep a sentry deployed so it has a chance to get you a kill or two. Just don't leave it if it's getting no action. Call it back and redeploy it to spots where it can shoot people. Sentry will kind of give you a heads-up on fighting, too. It even marks targets now.
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    IM SO FUCKING SICK OF DUOS

    EVERY FUCKING MATCH OF CASHOUT

    ONE OF THEM OR BOTH OF THEM ARE NOOB, THEY CONFESS TO, THIS IS REAL

    GIVE ME A QUEUE WHERE I CAN AVOID DUOS. JUST PLEASE. THIS IS UNPLAYABLE AND JUST SO TILTING.
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    >>3109843
    Welcome to my hell. I'm not even good. I have a 1.76 KD and 0.98 WL. I'm almost always leading the team. They keep giving me absolute fucking mouth breathing, knuckle-dragging dipshits. Picrel is a perfect example. I eliminated the entire Purple team Solo. Notice the dude in the right. That's my teammate. Who literally ran up the stairs BRUSHING ELBOWS WITH AN ENEMY and didn't even try to fight him. He literally ran in from behind the enemy, up the stairs while brushing an enemy and never even thought, "Hey. Maybe I should punch this purple dude" or anything. Sometimes, you get ones that are so dogshit they quit, but it's on the final stretch so you're guaranteed to lose.. Pain, my friend.
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    >>3109068
    >Now what the fuck is this in the picture
    Any of the billboards and such are legal targets. The ones that advertise outfits, shot spotlight players, and I think the sponsor ones. It's easy to already accidentally damage them with explosives at random.
    >>3108962
    Troons are unpleasant to look at, including caricatures of dead ones. I would prefer it if you didn't post them.
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    Bro, FUCK this FUCK-ASS wheel. It's heavily weighted on one side, keeps giving me golden tickets and hasn't landed on one yet. I just want the damn damn shirt with the green pumpkin on it. Post wheels. I think this shit is bullshit. I put down one of the hardest Cash Out matches to complete all my dailies in one go and they jew me.
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    >>3109986
    that light was about to dash away but he kept him there with his gravitational pull
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    >Medium with grenade launcher
    >Carrying barrel and firing immediatly after
    >Nukes everyone but heavy, leaving them on low HP
    This shit is cancer, whats the counter play
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    >>3109843
    >t. 25/3/4 0 Obj 0 support
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    >>3110981
    Ok, i admit it...
    It's my fault, not the visibly braindead duo, one, the other or both are total noobs yet INSIST on skipping straight to the mode that people who more or less know what they are doing like to play.
    No no, i should be grateful they chose this gamemode, because just like battle royale, it makes these shitters think they're the ones steering the ship, controlling the character, putting the triangle through the triangle shaped hole, when in reality it's their older brother (me). They gave me the opportunity to shine, to prove to the world that i am the THE FINALS Jesus, here on earth to uplift the broken, sinful, retarded masses and consoletard ways...
    It wouldn't be fun if i got an actually decent duo or fellow soloq warriors in 2/10 matches. What i really deserve is a minimum of 90% fresh installs and weakminded/delusional hardstuck retards, because as the skill based matchmaking system knows, my win ratio, kill ratio, support score is 0/0/0/00/0/0/0/0 in every match so i DESERVE this. It would be a shame if i won too many matches and decided to stop tweaking my loadout and going back to roll the dice on another match, 'casual' or ranked queue.
    I guess i should equip the heal gun and hide behind two light players. Or 1v3 a LLL/HLM team with two mediums both using turret or healbeam (or shockwave for the 5 dmg) because they deep down know they can't aim at all, even with their shitty AKMs or p90's.
    And i suppose it's also kind of my fault for playing at the start of the season, i should just wait another few weeks for the tourists to get bored and moved on to MW4 or eventually GTA6.
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    >>3111109
    >Didn't mention objective once
    Play the objective nigga
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    >>3111129
    I play the OBJ, but some of the people they give you are just dumb fucks that you have to babysit. You have to do everything. You have to mark targets, you have to shoot targets, you have to lay traps or support items you have to cover the OBJ and you look at your teammates and they're playing fucking COD trying to camp corners and shit. Me and this dude earlier were practically dragging this Heavy to the finish line because he wanted to run a fucking sledgehammer and we're trying to tell him switch to a fucking gun and he just insisted on using the hammer. From the start he was weighing us down. Had a big-ass skirmish and I'm laying down fire on everything I can see and this retard couldn't secure one kill. People need to spend some time in bot modes before coming in to real shit. It will actually make you better.
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    Why, Jesus? What did I do? T_T
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    >>3108738
    >trusting swedish devs to do anything but make their game more and more painful to play
    The writing was on the wall when they started balancing absolutely everything around Light ttk. Their catering to all the noobs and the cheaters/poop sockers gravitating towards Lights. Never trust swiggers.
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    >3 ranked matches in a row where I get a light with a massive ego that intentionally throws the game when mildly upset
    It is unfortunate that light is the fragger character because god damn does it attract the biggest retards imaginable.
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    >>3111827
    No. You don't understand. They're the main character. You're just there to revive them and make sure they have -80% heath enemies to shoot. You didn't actually think you'd play your game and what YOU wanted, did you?
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    >>3110353
    It has to come back around in your favor, right? picrel
    >>3111883
    Sometimes on Medium in casual games I'll throw a bitch fit and start chucking peoples respawns away if too many people skip rez.
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    >>3112684
    I have to wait for today to get more tickets, but that is crazy. Embark gave me a busted wheel. ಠ︵ಠ
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    >>3112709
    I imagine you'll be rolling into the golden tickets soon. Just save them until the last day or until the amount of golden tickets equals the remaining drops.
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    Strongly considering taking a long break again. My problem is with the light class again. Same as last time. This shit is not fun to play against. They require no braincells to get value it's so fucking boooooooooooooooring.
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    >>3112721
    That's not a bad idea at all. I'll probably do that.

    >>3112779
    What class are you playing? I went to Medium from Heavy and it's like the sun finally came out.
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    >>3112825
    Mostly sw medium and some chain heavy.
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    >>3112825
    I was a heavy main but for me the sun is out and everything is looking grim out there. Don't know how people say heavy got a good deal out of this
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    >>3110975
    Not being an idiot that facetanks nades and using positoning/gadgets. Literally just use a jump pad and jump around them. Fuck they gonna do
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    >>3112840
    Heavy got dicked. That little bump in speed was not worth losing health. I feel like they should have went the opposite way. Little less speed, more health. That little pissy-ass speed increase isn't helping much when you're still 8 feet tall and look like a Mack truck on legs.
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    >>3113005
    ohhh but the poor light got a speed reduction.... still has all the crazy mobility and little hitbox but ooooohhhh the speeeeedd
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    matchmaker is being outright demonic to me today
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    >>3113134
    Yeah. And you barely even notice them being just a smidge slower. They're still challenging you head-on with their balls out using a gun that 9/10 times will melt you if you can't deal with them quick. You have to give just that extra bit of effort and it's like, why man?
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    >>3111129
    OP here (other reply wasn't me), the objective is to either kill or not die to the other fucking team. If you kill them they cant do objective, if you dont die you can stop them.
    Hope that clears things up for you objective enjoyers.
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    >ok let me try this out in quick cash
    >*literally the most unplayable adderall infested lobby you've ever seen*
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    Who decided to make the gold reward skins look better than platinum? Makes me thankful i started plummeting just before hitting plat

    Also didn't notice there were rewards for all the gadgets and specs too. Very nice. Will probably just go with some boring meta weapon/gadget i dont have any skins for yet
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    >>3113608
    I've never spent a coin because they're all ugly. Don't know why anyone would use these skins unless it's diamond/ruby to flex
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    Need help. How to do the challenge in the picture faster?
    I've been using Glitch Bomb by Lights. Is there a faster way?
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    >>3113675
    Not really.
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    Mimic + dash + jumppad would be a menace if light also had hoverpad.
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    They need to nerf Shockwave from Mediums. It's too good. Why is there a glitch effect on it?
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    >>3113675
    Dude just go medium and use glitch mines in a high traffic area.You'll rack those up super fast.
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    >>3114062
    Yeah I actually just learned earlier about this. I'm new so I didn't know shockwave had glitch. I just used shockwave over and over after that.
    Fucking finally that set of challenges is finally over. Holy shit they were not fun at all.
    Just checked the next set of challenges and they are way easier.

    At least the Mythic XP54 and the IseulT costumes look good.
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    >>3114103
    Not sure if you meant to reply to the other guy but shockwave specialization does have a glitch effect as of recent, but medium also has a glitch mines that are in the gadget slot. Sure if you have both equipped you could rack stuff like that twice as fast. But yeah glitch mines are great because like the motion sensor they can trigger multiple times on the same target and count towards your mission.
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    >>3114052
    because us CL40 chads need it
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    >we're gonna add more gameshow stuff
    >dont add more arena events
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    Started doing some sidequests on IseulT earlier after clearing the fuckass challenges for the mythic weapon.
    So this was what you guys were saying? The bare feet thing? I was so confused a few days ago when someone said feet, feet, feet. I thought "what was so imprtant about shoes?" Turns out it's actually bare feet. The fuck is this for?
    Anyway my actual question is what does the contract mean by "Play 5 tournaments?" Does that mean rank? I don't wanna play rank though.
    The "open 5 vaults", that's quick cash right? The one where you run and activate the box to bring it to the cashbox?
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    >>3114287
    >The fuck is this for?
    foot fags devs injecting their fetishes into the finals

    >"Play 5 tournaments?" Does that mean rank?
    Both Cashouts (ranked and unranked) work. Not like you gotta win, you just gotta play them. I actually kinda wonder if the solo mode counts since technically thats using a tournament style bracket as well. If it does that might be the fastest way to grind it out since you can control how quickly you lose.

    >The "open 5 vaults", that's quick cash right? The one where you run and activate the box to bring it to the cashbox?
    Yeah it just means anything with a vault. Ranked cashout, cashout, or quickcash. I personally think for those its far easier to accomplish in cashout if only because 2 pop up at a time. So often times you're only competing against 1 other team rather than consistently 2 in quick cash.
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    >>3114287
    >The fuck is this for?
    Me.
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    idk whats the point of even playing ranked, you get harder lobbies and worse teammates, its miserable
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    >>3114382
    I like the ruleset more. Coin timing is very important and counter picking a launchernigger with APS in the final round always feels amazing
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    >>3114382
    The ruleset is fun enough. Not being able to swap from the reserve on wipe and there being a team wipe penalty is a pretty good alternative to how WT Cashout plays. I wouldn't say it's outright better, since counterpicking in WT is pretty fun and you also have the fact that Ranked lacks gameshow events, but it's still worth playing from time to time.
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    >>3114700
    Wipes basically going unpunished in WT is why I don't play it. It changes how teams play a LOT and makes a huge difference
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    Can someone post the full outfit rewards of Iseul-T an Osupuze? I want to see all of them.
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    you aight lightboy
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    >place hoverpad with turret amongst trees on monaco TDM
    >firing CL40 and gas nades into buildings for 3 minutes
    >someone (an enemy i think) even threw a good nade and i went floating across like a cloud for a bit
    I have become one with nature. I shall strive to master the way of the viet cong and the ewok. The lights, heavies, they know only of the the wall, the ceiling, the road and the rooftop. They care little for the birds or the trees that they nest in. I shall remind them.
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    >>3115014
    based treehugger
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    >>3114882
    I can post the iseult one.
    >player card title reward is "Lobstar"
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    >>3114882
    Here's Ospuze. Currently working on finishing the last one and getting filtered by the stupid mine damage one. No one sticks around in pyro mines long enough to do good damage, gas mines get instantly burned away, no one falls for explosive mines. So far I can say only the piss bowl helmet and the AK skin are worth it
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    >>3115022
    where's the chicken head? that's the reason I picked them
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    >>3115097
    ok nvm those are the noob ones, cant even remember the rest desu
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    >>3115063
    Oh shit actually nevermind. I just finished the mission and got 2 more. I thought since it wasn't giving me any more options I was done, but I just got 2 more new missions. I'm at 40/59 rewards.
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    >>3114882
    >>3115022
    I'm not done with ISEUL-T, but here's how far I got
    The watch also constantly makes noises during matches. Freaked me out for a moment until I realized.
    >>3115097
    It unlocks in the second wave of challenges after the jellyfish jacket in Side 1, but I don't have a pic because it seems I actually don't have access to that challenge right now/anymore

    Will have to see what happens after I clear up some of these new side challenges that replaced it
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    >>3115291
    also I was too lazy to open GIMP, so enjoy crusty ass paint resizing
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    >>3115097
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    >>3113565
    It's always been like that, quick cash is THE worst gamemode in the game currently
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    >>3113654
    I still have a diamond coin from when they had just introduced the new coin system (season 9 i think) never bothered to use it
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    Can anybody actually do dailies in bot matches? I always warm up with bots so I don't shit up any games and me and this dude were doing good and he just left. I assumed he completed dailies, but I didn't have any progress in mine.
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    >>3115885
    Testing right now, I'll let you know, though the menu does specify that bot matches count towards dailies
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    >>3115782
    Quick Cash is okay, but you need pipe hitters. People goofing off or slacking too much and it just falls apart.
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    >>3115891
    >>3115885
    Nope, it's a lie, no progress
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    >>3115895
    It's a conceptually shit game mode. It's literally third partying, over and over and over and over. Finish a fight only to be thrusted into another one. You just have to be the lucky last one.
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    >>3115918
    Damn. Would be a nice option to have.
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    >>3115924
    It is a bit of a blue baller in that way.
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    >>3113556
    >Caps your obj while you are jerking off the other light
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    >>3115997
    I hate Lights so much, I stopped paying my electric bill.
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    >>3115782
    I suppose, power shift can be awful though
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    Hell yeah! Had a great match with some great dudes and I finally got that damn shirt! This must be how rich people feel all the time.
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    >>3113556
    >meanwhile, the kills-obsessed tard when faced with 17 layers of goo, barricade, shields, and stuns to prevent grabbing the cashout faster than killing him:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWknuMOO-A8
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    I just played quick cash and this did not work. Why?
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    >>3116909
    You played Quick Cash instead of a Tournament.
    Tournaments are Cashout, not Quick Cash
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    >>3116925
    Fuuuuuuuck. I don't wanna do Cashout. Which is faster? I don't care if I lose honestly. Cashout or Spotlight?
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    >>3116936
    Spotlight is just Cashout on the maps that got the changes. It's all the same. Just pray you lose quickly enough.
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    >>3116936
    It's not that bad. You'll probably lose and get cut early if you don't really try. That saves time.
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    Also. I'd like to add that these new challenges are really bad for the game because of the shit people are doing for them. I won't knock anybody for throwing or quitting once they complete one, but that's basically the door Embark opened when they made these changes. Regular fan progression was fine.
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    >>3117016
    I agree. The type of challenges make it so people actually do not want to engage with the game properly. They really should not make it an ultimatum type of challenges where if you know you won't get it, just leave.

    I've seen so many people immediately leave games and it makes it annoying for the rest of the team. It doesn't mean it's just casual it means it is fine to happen.
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    I just started Cashout. Do you get bot teammates here? I am not good at all. But I think I can actually do damage. I can get okay K/Ds in other modes for a shitty ass beginner. I get like .9KD most of the time.

    But for some reason here in Cashout I am currently 1 kill and 40 deaths already in 6 games. My teammates are also the same 0 kills and at least 11 deaths always and I get to be always last place.
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    >>3117225
    Yeah. You're gonna' get tards for sure. Lots of them. I did about 5 matches today and never even won despite putting it on them. 2 matches I had teammates who were all about comms, using their heads to strategize and they weren't crying and throwing tantrums went it didn't work out. They just didn't have the skill needed to do some of the shit we were trying. Use your mic and just be chill and that will help you a ton. It's a team game. Stay with your homies.
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    >>3117225
    No bots, but there's definitely some SBMM involved, and there's also definitely some smurfs out there, so be ready to be matched with fellow retards against people that for some reason feel the need to stomp on retards for validation.

    Best advice I'd give is that, if you're able to completely give up all desires, just follow your teammates around no matter what. No matter how fucking retarded they are. No matter how little they play the objective. If you aren't able to take the lead or carry, then you were already at the whim of what they were doing, so if they were already going to fuck off and not play the objective, you might as well go with them and get some damage in.
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    >>3117289
    Accurate as all fuck. People will go along with a bad plan if that's the only plan on the table. I think we're all guilty of marching along on a suicide run know damn well the plan sucks. Lol
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    Was the nerf to Heavy's health pool really warranted considering he's still xbox huge and slow
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    >>3117560
    Hell no. I understand that, ideally, Heavy will have people backing them up, but the smallest and most nimble class should not be able to melt a Heavy in a head to head.
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    >>3117560
    Nah, not realy

    >>3117570
    Well the tricky issue is that Light still can't do that

    To save on post size and posting some math, the average gap in TTK between Heavy and Light is about a 0.43s advantage on Headshots and a 0.64s advantage on bodyshots in the Heavy's favor. If it were just raw aimduels, then Heavy generally should still have the win in most fights.

    The issue is more Light's ability to engage and disengage from just about anywhere on the map on a whim, and still has a 2s faster regen delay after the nerf. You're basically able to endlessly keep damage on your opponents while also being able to bug out at any time yourself to reload or try to top off. Given that the speed buff is so minor, Heavies are gonna be right around where you left them, so you're free to hop right back in and finish them off.

    This HP change is just enough wiggle room taken away from Heavy and given to Light that you can't shoulder your way through the whittling anymore, and they can afford to be what basically feels absolutely brazen now.
    >>
    Still find it crazy that embark threw heavy mains under the bus for light mains
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    >>3117688
    We just gotta' be honest about it. People don't want to play the tank. People want to play the hotboy classes. The "gotta' go fast" speed demons zipping around doing ninja shit. Medium is for your average joe, Light is for the guy who free bases G-Fuel and Heavy is for people who just can't let it go. Lol I felt like I was really hitting my stride with Heavy before the changes and now I really don't want to touch it.
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    >>3117712
    I'll put it this way. Medium and Light are the red and blue Power Ranges. Heavy is the black one. Nobody ever said: "Please buy me the black one."
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    >>3117688
    Lights are easily the majority of the playerbase.
    As long as they're able to delete someone in <1second and have panic buttons that prevent them from facing the consequences of misplays they're going to be the most popular and get favoritism patches.
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    >Heavy is too strong at close range
    >Nerf the winch
    >Heavy is too strong at long range
    >Nerf the BFR
    >Heavy is too tanky
    >Take away his health and give it to light
    >Goo gun allows you to close the gap on lights
    >Nerf it
    They really just want you to be a stationary Lewis gun heal ball bot
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    >>3117736
    That's what I'm saying. Heavy is just supposed to be a bitch class. You're expendable and your only job is to make everybody else look good. Players literally treat you like you're supposed to go in and make sure everything is nice and weak so they can hog all the glory.
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    >>3116261
    But atleast it's a 5v5 mode. Yeah getting steamrolled sucks but it's nothing like getting royally fucked for 10 mins on quick cash
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    >>3117688
    >gay undertale/deltarune plushie
    >digital circus figurine
    >le ebin mein kampf
    >ze bought the official mouze pad
    >crusty ass and dusty chinesium keyboard
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    this season is a dud, the reworked maps are actually really good but everything else is meh at best. Respec order was a mistake and I wish every swede an allah ACKbhar
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    >>3115782
    I think powershit is the worst game mode by far next to whenever they do the heavy hitters event. I usually love push cart modes in games, but somehow the finals take on it just feels horrible.
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    >>3117966
    It's probably the maps accomodating for a lot of camping and taking potshots at range and having zero cover or ways to fight back that makes it unfun for you, which is honestly fair, those aspects suck ass.
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    >>3117736
    Goo hammer was so fun. I'm still salty
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    >>3117688
    I don't even mind lights being the annoying mosquito class, but it turned into the jack of all trades for momentary gain of the lowest rungs of gamers. They have explosives, utility, movement, and now more hp. They have the best melee weapons, the best long range weapons, the best cq weapons. The only thing they can't do at this point is sustained damage.
    And now they'll continue going down this path because the season is the most popular in a long time. Invisibility has to be the most retarded shit ever in a shooter. Nobody has ever managed to make it work. Just steal the tf2 spy stealth if you MUST have that kind of degenerate gameplay in there.
    And then instead of fixing the visibility issues, they just give the light class the ability to see through all the bullshit while they do it. How come lights get two options to turn invisible? Why doesn't the medium get the invis grenade? WHY WHY WHY
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    >>3117924
    How the fuck did you know who the plushie and figurine were? I didn't know that was a mousepad, either. What the hell? Lol
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    >>3117688
    Light has always had 'protagonist class' syndrome, all of the most gun gadgets and least amount of teamplay synergy with anyone else.
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    >>3118040
    That's what I'm saying. Light is just overloaded with dope shit. Invis gotta' go. Just pull it or move it to Medium.
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    >>3118040
    >Nerfed 5 times
    >It's STILL the best healing item in the game
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    >>3118116
    >decreased health given from 20 to 10
    this proves there's a total drooling retard in charge of the balancing
    50% reduction on pure numbers is indicative of a catastrophic understanding of the gameplay
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    Can someone teach me the mindset of Light? I only play TDM or Pointbreak. I always lost 1v1 fights. I'm not good obviously. But am I supposed to really just sometimes wait and then pounce when I am at an obvious advantage?
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    >>3118199
    Light is a really stupid class to be playing on point break and just serve to be part of a weak defense or the reason a team blows through tokens quickly on attack. This goes for any mode, but if you're playing against idiots the high mobility and damage output will carry you far, but any level of turtling or group that knows to stick together will rip a light apart. Its just an opportunist class where you do damage and get out or ambush your targets. There are plenty of tools available that support this mindset. The recent update now has nearly every light carrying that stupid translocator to essentially get out of a fight free by just switching places with a marked object the moment they are showing signs of losing a fight. Lights have far less down time in fights with their faster health regen time, so its just a matter of putting constant pressure on a target.
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    >>3118199
    buy kovakks or aimlabs and aim train
    pick cloak and either XP, V9S or LH1
    cloak somewhere high
    pick potshots
    when discovered flee
    always wait for full regen (like 4 seconds anyways)
    rinse and repeat
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    >>3118066
    I can recognize the telltale signs of being a complete and utter faggot
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    >>3118116
    healing beam is better
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    >>3118199
    the best way to think of light is like Sombra or Spy from tf2 and overwatch, squishy dive class that is incredibly annoying when played well.
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    HELP. How to do this? The cowards way. I am not good enough for this.
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    The pellet hit markers with the shotguns is the most annoying distracting thing ever
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    >>3118014
    lockbolting, winching, gooing and glitching/shockwaving l*ghts is what i fucking live for
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    Genuinely one of the worst matches i've ever played where my team didn't intentionally throw or quit... and we qualified somehow..

    (also just won the final 2-0, damn imagine playing ranked when this shits so chill)
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    >>3118746
    I would say go point break and be that guy who stays at the back reviving everyone, looking for angles and just spamming whatever shit works into the direction of the objective
    You are guaranteed to get atleast 2KD that way if your team doesn't get shitstomped (although if you want to finish it faster)
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    >>3118428
    In a fight? No way, oftentimes while being heal beamed I wish the medium would just put it away and shoot. Burst healing of the infuser is amazing, dump it into your heavy and straight back into the fight
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    Just did a last minute double cashout steal for the first time.
    Pretty cool... except i was the turret tard who stayed behind to guard the other box.
    >>
    LMH is an unwritten solo queuer law, in my humble opinion.
    also picrel has got me wondering if you can get an achievement for coming 1st with 0 deaths?
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    >>3119309
    >pic
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    actually let me reiterate this post for more context

    >teammate *tried to* revive *practically right next to the cashbox* instead of stopping steal with 20 seconds left
    >wasn't even the last player alive
    it went from a decent match to a disaster in about 5 seconds
    fucking heavies sometimes, jesus...
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    >>3119087
    it's great for short fights definitely but if there's a more sustained fight then you're better off with the heal beam if you're not the one holding down a point that can constitute a heal ball.
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    >tfw ur playing well enough for Scotty to be calling you out atleast once every match
    >starts to get annoying
    >start thinking about changing username or turning off commentary
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    >>3119463
    change your name to stfu_scotty
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    >>3119467
    I thought it'd be funny make my name June just because it would sound like June joined the fight and left Scotty to get some for a minute.
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    >>3119467
    Well it will work one way or other, whether its allowed or not
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    >>3100943
    Nah that mode is dogshit for people who have a yellow ping icon
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    >>3102030
    Would so hard
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    >>3118014
    Ass cancer
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    Is there any way to smooth out these squares? It shows up on some shirts in the player cards, too. The fuck is this?
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    Death to console players. Get them out of my lobbies NOW
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    Finally won a solo showdown. Why the fuck is this mode so sweaty? Holy shit
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    >>3120799
    Works on my machine.
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    I hate it, because people always said
    >you just never play Light that much because you suck at it and would lose
    and it's like, no. After switching a little while into this season, my K/D per match has gone from 1-2 to 5-6, and I still win pretty often.

    I just don't care for it because it's so goddamn flat. If I wanted to zoom around the entire map just killing people, then I'd be playing an arena shooter. There's all these fun and cool tools in the game for shaping the arena and playing the objective without just being about hunting people down, but instead here I am just shooting people.

    Like at one part I was able to grapple over to a Heavy at an elevated position, kick him off, beam him while jumping down after him, and when he threw up his shield, I threw a Glitchnade in his face, and I genuinely couldn't be more bored. That's not The Finals, that's just every other movement shooter.
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    >>3120819
    holy fucking trvth nvke

    I feel the same way. But some people only find dopamine in the most obvious shit for some reason. And im not a heckin reddit chungus 0.5 kd heavy or medium healslut, i like TDM/aping enemy lights as much as the next guy, but the possibilitys in this game are everywhere so i branch out and try things out as much as i can even if it sometimes goes wrong or harms my KD. Of course not straight up throwing matches with the most retarded playstyles i can come up with but sometimes you just got to improvise with shit to learn for yourself.
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    The next logical step for the announcers would be custom team names, right? I'd imagine they have to do a lot of work to make sure Scotty and June don't say anything not fit for advertisement. Has anyone heard them say something really bad yet? The worst one I've heard so far was bussypunisher.
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    >>3120990
    >Has anyone heard them say something really bad yet
    Nah. I've noticed myself that with my risque name and with others that it still will just always default back to "a contestant" and what not.
    >The next logical step for the announcers would be custom team names, right?
    On a similar note, I'm surprised how much Clubs have pretty much fallen to the wayside. By now, you'd think they'd have their own track where you unlock sticker, spray, maybe a banner emote or a jacket or what have you. Shouting out "The members of [Cum Snagglers] are on a massive tear" would be a good fit or whatever.

    I mean, I get that it's not really a popular feature. Even now, a good chunk of people in Vidya play together, but they do so after having added each other through clubs, rather than club invites. Still, that'd probably get people to care about it more, if there were actually rewards n' shit for it.
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    So what's the deal with the tickets?
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    >>3121107
    Hit an already claimed item, it turns into a ticket space
    Hit that ticket space, you get a golden ticket that gives you a guaranteed new item
    Generally you wanna save your golden tickets until you have an equal number of unique items left
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    >>3121158
    Oh I see. Feels a bit unintuitive to see the ticket greyed out this way. I understood as tickets being separate from the daily spins.
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    This game makes me unreasonably angry, even after thousands of hours
    >cheaters everywhere
    >rigged matchmaking
    >retarded balancing
    >updates make the game worse (UI and destruction on CNS maps)
    >bugs taking multiple seasons to fix (healball deploy is still bugged)
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    >>3121718
    To the point where I slam my desk every game and sometimes seethe so hard I see floaters in my eyes, even when I tell myself to stay calm & try to focus on not letting bs get to me before matches. I need a way to control my anger, it just goes from 0 to 100 out of nowhere in this game.
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    >>3121718
    Me too desu, which is why I'm pissed my comfy bot cashout is still bugged. I hate solo queue but I do want those wheel tickets.
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    Can someone confirm how to do this?

    I did the previous ones in Cash Out. Can this be done in Point Break? If yes, how?
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    >>3121718
    same tbqh
    >go 6.0 kdr, singlehandedly carry the lobby, feel nothing
    >turn a corner and get dropped in .200ms by aimbotters, cortisol spiked, considering punching hole through monitor
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    >>3121890
    "Cashouts" are specified for cashout ranked/unranked and quick cash. Point break's objectives are labeled as "grand vaults".
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    >>3121890
    I managed to do the "Steal 2 cashouts while obscured by smoke" ISEUL-T Sponsor challenge in Point Break, so I think it's doable. You have to be on the attacking team. The smoke only counted 2/7 times I tried so it's not consistent.
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    >>3117736
    It's very obvious someone on the dev team is hellbent on making sure heavies have the least fun. The fact that they nerf Deagles, BFR and CnS several times is the biggest indicator. There's absolutely no reason to play a big fat pile of shit anymore if everything is going to be balanced around Light TTK.
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    >>3121890
    this is how I did it >>3121926 just play point break and toss the smoke on whoever is attempting to start it. I got it in one match because they defused it a couple times.
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    >>3121891
    are you gonna start every post with
    >6.0 kdr btw
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    >>3121926
    >>3122035
    I forgot how fucking finnicky it is. I smoked 3 times and i actually put it beneath my feet and nothing.
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    >never play quick cash because it's an awful game mode
    >"oh what the hell, might as well try it so I can also do my contracts"
    >2 teams of premade ultrasweats
    >always stuck together and definetly had comms too
    >my other 2 teammates are two numbskulls that can't even pick their nose (though they valiantly tried, I'll give them that)
    fuck off man
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    >>3121926
    >>3122035
    Yeah you guys are correct. It should be attack. Finished it in 3 matche. But there was something weird. When I smoked and then armed the vault, it game me 2 points. I don't know why. Maybe because it wasn't counting my previous attempts and then when I succeeded it gave me the previous one as well. Not sure. But at least it works in Point Break.
    Now this next one is a problem. I have never been on the MVP screen at all. At the billboard I think it happened once.
    What is the best game mode for this and how to approach these?
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    >>3122251
    These are all skill issues. I see myself on billboards regularly and show up as mvp every other match. I would do all of these in crashout.
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    >>3122262
    >These are all skill issues
    Correct. That's why I'm asking for advice. I'm not good at all.
    Regarding MVP if you win, do you get a bigger chance in getting it in Cash Out?
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    >>3122269
    If you suck at hitting people that shoot back go invis like every other shitter and line up your shots when they are taking a bite of their food.
    Fans are just playtime.
    Billboards can be anything. Idk, try getting a multi kill with a trap setup or something?
    MVP on support score is piss easy if you go healbot.
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    >>3122251
    in cashout there's a more opportunities to get on the billboards doing things like starting the first cashout or doing a last second steal, and since there's not as many players focusing the same point like in point break it's also easier to achieve, also like another anon said getting mvp for support is easy since there's a lot of bad supports.
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    >>3122251
    Power Shift's the way to go. You can get on the billboard for Platform Defender easily, and reviving a ton can sneak you into the podium.

    So if you suck, I'd suggest Melee Heavy with Emitter, Barricades, and Dome Shield. Shit's not gonna go well since they nerfed melee, nerfed heavy, and buffed sniping into the platform, but you bunk down enough and throw dome as an opener, you have a chance.
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    >>3120819
    Imagine not wanting to kill people in an fps lol finals has a really retarded playerbase
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    SA12 even with the recoil buff feels like shit against 175 lights
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    >>3122086
    Shit like this and no solo cashout and a separate RS system for ranked solo qers is why this game will never grow and die an ugly painful death.
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    Here are all the sponsor rewards in video form.
    >Iseul-T
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlxm8W2ezag
    >Ospuze
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXLw7WYEd3w
    >Alfa Acta
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzALE-0TdmE

    For me the best cosmetics are in Iseul-T. But the best mythic weapon is in Ospuze. Alfa Acta does not have any mythic weapon.
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    >>3122668
    >OSPUZE gets another form of the molotov nade, but in can form
    Between that and the Fireball one coming out, I'm so miffed about spending coins on it
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    >>3122668
    Can someone tell me what are the contracts on the final main quest of Iseul-T? I am not convinced with the clothes for the last mission. The half top looks way better than that.
    https://youtu.be/Qlxm8W2ezag?t=295

    I was hoping Ramona's fit was in one of the challenges.
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    >>3122668
    >you can be one of the iseul-t glitter guys
    >but not one of the naked iseul-t glitter guys
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    >>3122668
    I like the alfa acta HUNK, the weapon animations for them and the sa12, sledge and spear but the rest is pretty bland on their end.
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    >>3121718
    Literally just kill people, destroy buildings, shit on lights and have fun its not hard
    And dont play ranked
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    >>3122086
    I mean i can tolerate it if they are doing something fun like sledgehammer team or something but most of the time its literally just soulless XP lights and the usual redditor support duos that are really fucking boring to play against
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    >LOSERS is censored in text chat
    Going back to calling them nigs then
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    Coming off of bf6 and wardogs, this game would feel alot better if it wasnt hitscan. Finals somehow looks like a next gen game, but plays like low a low gravity scoutsknives CS 1.6 server from 1998.
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    >steal 2 cashouts while obscured by smoke
    >0/2 after doing exactly that
    let me guess, its because i was below the cashout box or some shit that it didnt register
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    >>3121718
    there's fun to be had
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    >>3122668
    Jinko is the only decent finals tuber apparently
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    >>3123521
    it wouldve been kino if the other two teams wiped eachother out while you were just there chilling in the middle
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    >>3123454
    That would only make lights even more powerful.
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    >>3122031
    Light is a fun class to play, but most Lights are self-centered retards. A friend and I fucked around and joined as Heavies on accident and couldn't switch so we were just making it work. He's been busy as fuck doing school and exam shit and doesn't even play that much and and out-performed the level 80+ Light on our team. The Light kept pushing too far ahead, trying to fight unnecessary fights while we were heading to objectives, did absolutely nothing to support, no sonars or anything. He was right behind me when we had a duo of Heavies run out 10 feet in front of us and I was burning their asses up to the point they were both almost dead and he just disappeared. He just fucked off as soon as he saw 2 Heavies...
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    >triple winch (+anti grav) heavy team on Seoul
    got to say we pulled off some absolutely diabolical cashbox spots

    also had one of those random moments that's really hard to explain if you don't clip it. but basically
    >Seoul bridge is destroyed
    >cashout is next to Seoul bridge
    >winch it to bridge
    >cashout goes too far and falls off map
    >it comes back
    >goes through the other side of the bridge
    >meanwhile i am still on bridge
    >have a looney tunes style fall to my death
    we had so many retarded moments around that bridge specifically, yet still won. was my 2nd tourney win in a row too
    fuck ranked, cashout is for soloqGODS who like actually having fun
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    >i changed my entire identity getting ready this morning
    that i can believe, trannoid
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    >>3123847
    >If she's a woman, I'm a parka.
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    >>3123469
    It is very finnicky like I said above. But for me what I did, and I'm still not sure if this works.

    In point break as an attack I ran to a vault that most likely no one is guarding, get near the vault, threw a smoke beneath my feet, and then waited for 1 sec to make sure the smoke was coming out of the grenade, then started the steal.
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    >>3123895
    can't unsee it now lol
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    >>3123895
    >>3123847
    Leave her alone, she's hot as fuck and I love her and her voice.
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    Okay I was able to do the MVP and Billboard thing easily and I just started yesterday and only played today.
    I am not good at all. I have sub 1KD so it's impossible for people here to fuck it up.
    Tips are the following:
    Quick Cash go Medium, and be a heal/resu bot. That's it. make sure your support score is way above other players. Also make sure your KD is at least maybe .9-1KD. You can easily get 3rd place even if you are 3rd place. Also it's easy to get to the billboards because the game loves you supporting your teammates. I think I did this in 5 quick cash games?
    This is way fucking better than "Do 1st Elimination 3 times". That was the worst.
    I don't know what's the final main challenge for Iseul-T is but I hope it's not like the one I hate.
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    Snipers only in solo showdown is fun as fuck.
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    It gets me how shitter Lights complain about not getting a stronger new spec this season.

    Oh no! Except then you get powerful new tools like the Translocator and Mimic Device which 100% should've been specs instead of gadgets, and by just being gadgets instead, you can use them in conjunction with the existing specs to have uber powerful combos and not give up any of your previous abilities due to opportunity cost.

    And you can already see a lot of them don't think that either of those, even in buffed capacities, would be satisfactory as a new spec. They always just want more more more more more. Me me me me me me me.
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    >it's another episode of "the worst player you've ever seen is also rocking the lvl 9000 premium battlepass skin, at the start of the season"
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    >>3123895
    fucking KEK
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    >>3124960
    desu a lot of lights dont even touch half this shit until it becomes approved meta and everyone else is using it
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    >>3124960
    I haven't seen much complaining but i've also mainly just been playing
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    Fuuuuuuck this shiiiiiiiit
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    >>3125936
    You can do it, bro. I can do it and I spend more time playing Barbie with my Heavy than actually doing matches.
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    >>3125941
    What's your suggestion? I was thinking Point Break and Heavy and maybe Flamethrower? But I have not tried playing that at all. Only reason I mentioned that is because so many Heavies do that.
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    I was wondering why the playerbase turned collectively braindead overnight, and it was because these fucking swedish retards made people throw games to chase these sponsored challenges.
    >>
    >>3125960
    Yes. And what's funny those in reddit are actually fine with it because "it's different". I was of the opinion that it's fine being hard, but make sure the challenges are actually good for the matches that will happen. There are too many hard challenges that are too specific and and too soloistic. I've seen so many players immediately quit games because of it.
    >>
    >>3125965
    >hard solo elimination challenges in a multiplayer objective game
    >every game has a leaver (no punishment hehe!) thanks to anons like >>3109068
    Embark are fucking retarded.
    >>
    >>3125960
    >>3125965
    it would be fine if this wasnt the 2020s (/mid 2010s) live service game matchmaking dystopia and you could just use a server browser
    it is pretty retarded putting these challenges in without maybe a specific gamemode that could account for this.
    instead its just inflicted upon every game mode and lobby regardless of whether someone is doing challenges or not
    >>
    >>3122031
    >they nerf Deagles, BFR
    wtf are you smoking they are great now after massive buffs, poke meta is back
    >>
    >>3125960
    A lot of the challenges are straight up asking you to grief your team.
    Yeah, dude, killing 10 people who are in a gravity cube sure is how you use that gadget.
    >>
    >>3127801
    >killing 10 people who are in a gravity cube sure is how you use that gadget
    Point break
    Speaking of, do I really have to fucking soloq cashout for the
    >kill 20 enemies near the active cashout
    I tried quickcash and that shit was miserable, in cashout most of the time my team goes for the last second steal for the first 2 boxes or double on the last so I don't know how feasible this shit is
    Also fucking sniper light niggers
    >>
    >>3122031
    heavy only exists to be a bullet sponge for the rest of your team to be allowed to play the game, they've never been assassins.
    >>
    >>3125945
    Point Break is too chaotic, I think. Too good of a chance somebody just goes on a lucky tear or you get kills steals stolen, which can be frustrating and make performance worse when every little lost kill is like a splinter under your fingernails I'd go Cash Out. Easier to stay in control since you probably won't get 3rd partied a whole lot. In my experience anyway. Know when to break off and re-engage if a situation sucks. Lots of people will try to push aggressively when the enemy team is fucked up, but 2 dudes with less than half health can still jack you up if you're not 100% ready with some kind of strategy to drop them quick. You have to get the most kills, so don't go giving the enemy team any.
    >>
    Fuck quick cash. Too many idiots playing that shit. I think I'm about done with that mode.
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    I don't know if anybody knows this, so I'm just throwing out there. Apparently, the B&W filter lets you keep your eye color.
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    >>3128736
    yeah I noticed. it looks pretty sick with glowing eyes
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    >>3128769
    It looks sick, but damn. I don't want to give them $20 for just that. Lol
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    >>3128783
    aye, nexon is testing the waters. I won't bite either.
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    >>3128786
    I think it includes multi bucks, but I'm pretty happy with my sets and not looking for anything. If it was separated, oh hell yeah.
    >>
    >>3128342
    >Too good of a chance somebody just goes on a lucky tear or you get kills steals stolen
    I tried Point Break with Heavy and Flamethrower. This is actually what happened to me. I had like 1 kill 13 assists while my team had way more kills than I did. Should have gone hammer or spear.
    >>
    whats the difference between odilias voice and the "bright" voices
    couldnt hear much difference at all
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    >>3127801
    >killing 10 people who are in a gravity cube sure is how you use that gadget.
    ironically, yes it is.
    you've clearly not used it much then
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    What do hammerbros use as their spec? Trying to get back into it for the first time since the goo gun nerf. Winch kind of sucks you just get booted away constantly
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    >>3129096
    funny you mention that, im running it right now
    i use winch
    and honestly i do surprisingly well with it
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    its infectious...
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    >>3129070
    I've never seen it used offensively without seriously hampering your team, cutting off entire sections of buildings makes chasing a death trap and I refuse to believe someone's retarded enough to try to push through it.
    The only time I've seen it used to secure kills is when whipped at someone who got defibbed or the occasional kill when utilizing it properly to stall.
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    >be MLL
    >dash and grapple lights using ARN
    >me with shockwave, AKM and a dream
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    >>3129168
    shockwave ak is my go-to
    very comfy loadout
    >>
    >>3125936
    Man this is so hard for me. Tried Team Deathmatch 5 times today and got 2nd place twice. This is not going to go well for me.
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    >Hard losing ranked match
    >Only hope was getting last cap
    >Capper dies
    >Not enough time to cap anymore.
    >Don't really care
    >Afk while waiting for timer to run out
    >Light jumps down and guns me down while I afk
    >Taunts
    >Proceed to chimp out about it
    Its amazing how a 2 second animation can ruin your night.
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    >>3129314
    You could try running some bot matches to get yourself calibrated. I find being competitive with other players for bot kills has helped a lot when it comes time for real matches. When you're consistently out-performing people there, you can probably go online and lay down some damage.
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    >>3129314
    I got it done by playing cashout with a sledge hammer.
    Most people don't know how to deal with it so you just crush lobbies.
    >>
    Anybody else's mouse aim feel weird? I had to go up like 5 points on Zoom/Look and before it felt perfect and tracking was great.
    >>
    >>3129398
    >>3129606
    Meh. I tried TDM around 5-6 times today and within 30 seconds someone goes 5-0 and then all of them end up with someone going 25-1. Meanhwhile us and the rest go 12+ kills. Tried Quick Cash and getting 3rd party'd easily happens. Power Shift almost everyone is hiding for some reason until the final few minutes.
    >>
    >>3129767
    Quick Cash kind of sucks. I accidentally loaded into a match a little while ago and wasn't trying to play and there was some punk-ass, ratty-ass Light just swiping kills from me left and right. You could always try that. I finished that bitch with 10 kills and 17 assists. That little motherfucker was robbing me blind. Is it dirty? Fuck yeah, it's dirty. But that Light and our other dude finished with the most kills in the game, so I dunno.
    >>
    If today's patch isn't removing camplight hollowshit from PB rotation I'm never paying for anything in the Finals ever again, suck my cock embark
    >>
    >removed AI-placeholder art
    AIjeets btfo
    >>
    >>3129814
    Aw, man. I love Starlight Hollow. I've never known it to be campy. You get a sniper on the roofs and a retard trying to MGL people from the roofs, but it's usually asswhippin' city.
    >>
    >>3129814
    I like Starlight Hollow. I do not like SysHorizon. Also there's rarely any campers in Starlight for me.
    >>
    >Fixed an issue that prevented daily and weekly Contracts being able to be progressed in Cashout (Bots)

    CB-01 Repeater

    Decreased damage from 88 to 85

    Dev Note: Early data from the Season 12 shows that we’ve perhaps slightly over-tuned the power of the CB-01, so this change aims to nudge that down to a more reasonable spot.

    Pike-556

    Decreased headshot multiplier from 1.75 to 1.5

    Dev Note: The Pike jumped significantly in usage, damage output and kill rates following the 12.0 changes, making it one of the more dominant weapons in the game. We still believe it needed that help but we clearly went too far with the changes, so this adjustment to headshots aims to bring that back down slightly. Because fuck you for not playing Light.
    >>
    Playing the first round of a bot match counts towards 3 matches daily.
    >>
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIAfkB45-Yc

    You guys remember battle royales?
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    >>3130294
    Wat da fuck is dis shit!? Is it even possible for us to play this bastard version?
    >>
    >>3130387
    it's a playtest and it seems to be shooting the slow projectiles from season 6
    the sponsor themes leads me to believe it's an old playtest and it will arrive at the sponsor showdown end of this season
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    >>3129975
    I get not being the biggest fan of Syshorizon but its wild that there's someone out there saying something positive about starlight hollow. Its so bad that it somehow overthrew Kyoto as the worst map in the game. Only positive being that its not in cashout. All the wide open spaces combined with the ability to destroy all cover just makes it boring for defense and a nightmare for attackers.

    >>3130294
    I praised them for bringing in gun game but that mode looks like shit. Then again maybe that just means those kinds of games arent' for me. It is kinda bringing memes to reality though since I remember people avoiding the finals because they thought it was another generic BR.
    >>
    The new destruction model sucks, nothing breaks and instead stays like a really annoying pile of shit that is unfun to fight
    >>
    >>3130522
    I can see what they were going for, but tossing an explosive barrel at a ceiling should 100% still blow a hole instead of causing it to slightly cave in. I fucking failed an easy cashout stall because of that.
    >>
    >>3130399
    Starlight gets fucked up when people let the defenders fight their way to the line and hold. You have to blitz their shit and push them back so they never get a chance to dig in. The 3rd phase is the one I have trouble with. I haven't figured out a great way to attack that fuckin' tower. I just hang outside and try to kill people.
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    >>3130044
    Lights are the most bottle fed fucking class on the planet, I swear to fucking god
    >>
    >>3130577
    I've won my fair share as attackers on that map using riot and demat. You can invade pretty hard on that tower pretty easily so long as you bring smokes to counter any flame throwers/pyro mines. That all being said its still fucking aids and more often than not at that point all the lights on my team have eaten away at all the tokens.
    >>
    >>3130044
    if I had a penny for every time they accidentally give the pike's HS multiplier a buff at the start of a new season only for it to be nerfed a week later I'd have 3 pennies which isn't a lot but it's wierd that it happened 3 times
    >>
    >>3129975
    Used to hate horizon because it's clear it was designed for when Terminal Attack was the main mode but looking back on it, I just think it's fine now. Not great, but not bad either. Starlight Hollow is just a bad map, period.
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    >>3130044
    >CB-01 Repeater
    >Decreased damage from 88 to 85
    So now it's a three shot kill on medium AND light. Embark have no idea what they're doing
    >>
    why do we have a "friendly fire!' voice line when you shoot your teammantes? you cant damage them, so is there something im missing?
    >>
    >>3130809
    Presumably to help convey that teammates are actively blocking your bullets. Might also just be there for the sake of it, like how UT2004 had a "MEDIC" voice line despite no point for it
    >>
    >>3130809
    the friendly fire sound plays even when shooting someone with the H+ infuser too.
    >>
    >>3130809
    so that every time i use the healing emitter i'm reminded that they're annoying idiots
    >>
    >>3130044
    >buff 5 weapons for Medium and Heavy after respec order became permanent
    >for Heavy only BFR(one of the most shilled weapons in the game, 4 paid bundles jfc) and SA1216 buffs were significant enough to matter(still no rework for MGL and a petty +20 RPM buff for LMGs lmao)
    >for Medium Pike and Repeater were the go-to anti light weapons since they have a pretty decent accuracy and a bigger magazine compared revolver(buffed too)
    >now that both got nerfed everyone will switch to the remaining 2 viable guns - P90 and Chimera, casual friendly and still have their buffs intact, coincidentally two new weapons that don't have a lot of skins yet
    Classic kike move from nerfbark
    >>
    >>3130547
    I threw 2 red barrels and 1 oil barrel at the ceiling under point C in Vegas and guess what?
    It just moved the bloody vault from explosion impacts, no hole or anything, just fucking moved it
    >>
    wow, the playercount is already at pre-season 12 peaks, buffing lights and introducing a joke mode for solo q really saved the game, didn't it?
    >>
    >>3131517
    steamcharts threads liquefy the brain.
    >>
    >>3131806
    >biggest season of the finals according to embark btw
    >still couldn't beat season 8 peak btw
    >still infested with cheaters btw
    nice selfown lmao
    >>
    >>3131806
    cashout is just a really terrible game mode to make an entire game around, nobody wants to sweat their balls off just to have fun. Rush works in Battlefield because there is a 32v32 mode of everyone else to have fun in and then occasionally dip into rush.
    >>
    >>3131890
    Suck it chud, embark would rather rework the whole game from the ground up rather than admit that griefout is the worst FPS format of all time
    >>
    >>3131890
    Why the fuck did we get Defuse before Conquest or Frontlines. Why are the swedes so addicted to making another shitty BR no one will play
    >>
    >>3131890
    >>3132013
    >nobody likes cashout and the game is going to die in 2 weeks
    >he says, for the third year in a row of the game continuing to live with a dedicated playerbase
    okay
    >>
    >>3132071
    Hes not wrong about cashout sucking though.
    Its only because of the sweats however.
    >>
    >>3132071
    >game continuing to live with a dedicated playerbase
    being excited for AIslop content and 50$ cosmetic bundles is not a dedication, that's an addiction, nexon goysumer
    >>
    >>3132013
    b-but the dynamism!!
    >>
    >>3123541
    No he's one of those anti ai faggots suffering from ai psychosis
    >>
    >>3123777
    Too bad cashout lobbies are 3 stack central and has been like that for ages
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    >>3132457
    >he didn't realise the intention of anon's post
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    >>3125936
    Fucking hell I finally did this shit. To those that are looking for tips this is how I did it.
    >Quickcash
    >Heavy - Winch / Flamethrower / Goo / Dome or RPG / Healing Emitter
    I just went in, tried my best to be the 3rd party and fucking did not care at all. If you rack up kills your party mates will think that you really care so much for winning when you actually don't. They will for some reason do their best to revive you 70% of the time. Fuck this challenge.
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    .
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    >>3133203
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    >>3133203
    >>3133256
    *filters positioninglets*
    >>
    10 games of quick cash with randoms
    0 wins
    each time I'm mvp (no, not just kills, but objective score & revives also)
    this is why I play point break, fuck these sponsor challenges
    >>
    >>3133647
    That's how she goes. Did a TDM match where I was going for kills as you do, but realized the team was struggling and switched to just trying to damage and mark shit as much as I could. Everytime I reloaded I was immediately back on the trigger with somebody in the sights. The AK's barrel would have fucking melted and blown up if it was real. Did a ball hair under 18k damage and then we lose and somebody shit-talks me. Like, what? Fuck randoms. Absolute idiots.
    >>
    >>3133127
    >quick trash
    Nice self report lol. That shit wouldn't ever fly in my quick trash lobbies. I don't play it but whenever I'm forced to, I get 3 stack diamonds or cheaters, no in-between. Nonetheless, I appreciate you helping out others.
    When I get this contract, I'll probably do it in poweshift with grapple and arn.
    >>
    >>3133809
    >Nice self report lol.
    I do not give a fuuuuuckkk. Call me a shitter or whatever since I know it's true. I still completed it. That's all I care about.
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    >>3133127
    It really is as shrimple as that. Never used the flamethrower until the other day, it just shreds through retards when combined with good tactics and gadget use
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    I love this French spy outfit from the BP. I wish you could have the boots with bare legs though
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    >>3135321
    >t. reddit dress up troon
    >>
    >Troon Grand Major bans the CHAD-locator
    what a bunch of pussies
    >>
    Just in time for Halloween
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    >>3136143
    I'm 2 away and have gotten screwed today and yesterday.
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    >>3135375
    >remove suicide bomber tech before Stockholm LAN
    fucking racist cunts
    >>
    >>3135363
    Everybody knows that stylin' is like, 90% of slapping fags. When I see people wearing mix and match freebie shit, I know it's GGs.
    >>
    fun fact, theres a custom voice line for pushing enemies off the map
    >>
    >Name never gets read out
    >Change it
    >Still 'The contestant'
    this sucks, I need to wait a month to try again. Shit needs a test
    >>
    >>3136816
    Whats your name
    >>
    >>3136848
    It WAS MommyMilkers, I changed it so something more tame without using Mommy & milkers and its still censored
    >>
    >>3136868
    I'm half convinced that you get flagged in the initial wave if it doesn't wanna say your name, since I also changed my name and I still can't get Scotty to call me out.
    >>
    >be LLL team
    >fend off MLL
    >fend off HHH third party right after
    heavy sisters...

    also
    >get through 1st round with brute force
    >teammates (especially lights) think theyre hot shit and get destroyed by actual cohesive teams in 2nd round
    everytime
    >>
    What do you even do at this point? Are you guaranteed 1 in 3 spins or something?
    >>
    Excuse me if its right infront of me but can you look at your match history anywhere?
    >>
    >>3137635
    no
    >>
    Point Break has so many obvious cheaters just because it has no replay feature baked in it.
    >>
    Can someone teach me how to use the XP54. I am having a hard time fighting recoil of the 1st kick. It's so high.
    >>
    >>3138133
    Recoil smoothing eliminates most horizontal recoil, just strafe while shooting and pulling down. Or plug in a controller for a free aimbot
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    >>3138142
    Or plug in a controller for a free aimbot
    I like to use a controller while on PC but I feel like this type of game you can't use that really. In BF6 I play 50/50. I use controller there if I want to just lazily sit and not mind my posture.

    >Recoil smoothing. To be honest I did not know about this. But my issue is the 1st kick really.
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    >>3138147
    >I like to use a controller while on PC but I feel like this type of game you can't use that really
    It's viable because the auto aim is severely overtuned. Most top teams have a controller light
    >>
    >>3138142
    Pretty much this. It's a surprisingly easy gun to use once you get the hang of it. If your monitor has a built-in crosshair feature, turn that bitch on.
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    >>3138133
    just stop thinking, dont try to fight the recoil, let it paint you a picture across the canvas that is the arena
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    >>3138157
    Fine let me try it anyway. Any guides how to tune the controller? Preferably something new.
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    >Oh, yeah brother. Let's spend the cash out on meth and pick up some lot lizards from the truck stop.
    >>
    >>3138157
    >>3138259
    I'm trying it right now in the practice range and I do not see the aim assist at all.
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    >>3138261
    Why does this guy look like DLSS compared to every other outfit i see looks gay and performative and cheap
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    >>3138330
    Lots of characters are just a collision of shit that doesn't go. Or they add something in every slot just for the fuck of it. I played with this dude yesterday and I don't know if it's an original fit he made himself, but I was mad as fuck I didn't think of it. Virtual Extension AK and he's going to another level, but something tells me he has it.
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    >>3138398
    hahaha yeah that's a good one
    >>
    >>3138398
    whats it meant to be
    >>
    >>3138284
    >>3138259
    Nevermind just tried it. It's so weird because of how fast the game is. I always use controller for all my games except for FPS (except BF6 sometimes) so it's hard getting used to it.
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    >>3138420
    Either Bin Laden directly, or some kind of insurgent type dude. Lol
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    >>3138446
    ah yeh didnt pick up on the face because of the lighting
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    Can someone explain what both zoom sens multipliers are?
    Also what's this focal length sens scaling?
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    >>3138658
    Mouse look is just your regular looking around, un-ADS'd look speed. Mouse zoom is ADS speed. How fast it moves when you're ADS. Applies to irons and red dots only, I think. Scoped zoom is the sniper scope sens speed. Never noticed it applied to slightly magnified optics, but I could be wrong. Focal length scaling attempts to make your aiming feel roughly the same across zoom levels depending on your FOV, IIRC.
    >>
    Literally every single time a teammate has been better than me this season, they've turned out to be a ban on record cheater after checking their steam profile
    >>
    >>3133899
    Sorry babe, mb. You have a good heart trying to help out others.
    >>
    >>3138133
    Some general advice is that shooting while strafing one direction and adjusting your aim to the opposite direction cuts down recoil. So strafe left, move your aim right etc.
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    >>3139239
    Or just get so close that missing is impossible.
    >>
    As a newbie that's a full time Point Break player, nerf the grenade launchers please. Thank you.
    >>
    As a returning player that's a full time point break enjoyer; don't nerf the grenade launchers please. Fuck lights and good night.
    >>
    >>3139759
    Eat shit. Them balancing around powershift is why so many good items got nerfed
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    >>3139759
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    >>3139759
    They're really not that good, it's just everyone trying to get that one mission to do damage without dying right now.
    MGL is actually one of the worst weapons in the game.
    >>
    When i started gitting gud at this game i stopped using the MGL but now i get how shit works i might start running it again and pull out every trick in the book to make things work
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    Why the fuck is this way harder for a legendary that has already been in the game since forever?
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