>STALKER x Tarkov I'm still doing only PvE because I'm not prepared to throw tons of loadouts at sweatlords.
Devs cooked with some of these chronogene descriptions lol
Game looks cool
>>3064899I've been having a lot of fun with it. I played it a while ago and jumped back in recently and could tell the devs put a lot of good effort into the game. The game design since has been incredible. The interchangeability between playing PvE and PvP modes, the progression system, the repeatability and replayability factors, gun variety, wipe mechanic (personal timelines) being entirely player decided is brilliant, stamina system tied to heart rate. The UI is also some of the best I've seen in a video game. The quality of life mechanics are great. And the game runs well on any system. With the harmonization cycles (battlepass), Active Matter is going to go places.
>>3064899its fun. gunplay a little janky but its really easy to get into and pretty forgiving in the realm of extraction shooters. about as forgiving as arc raiders id say. maybe more because getting crafting materials is pretty easy and pve mode is always a nice crutch to fall back on in case you get in the red.
>>3064962PvP in games like this is nothing but suffering. Hunt was better because of the limitations the guns gave you, but that game has gone way downhill. This is closer to Tarkov so a Russian camper is going to take you out while you're getting mobbed 100% of the time.
>>3065317But it's literally the best part of the game?
>>3065435Explain how getting blindsided by sweaty ruskis when the game piles on its usual bullshit and losing hard-earned gear is fun.
>>3065516>losing hard-earned geargear is piss easy to come by in this game.
>>3065530You burn through it pretty fast regardless.
>>3065516Because the gunplay is very tight and for the most part balanced and the armor system means getting one tapped is impossible with the right gear. Poor visibility also biases most firefights to spray and pray which all feels very visceral and dynamic in combination. The biggest issue used to be getting 2v1 or 3v1 by squads but there's a solo only queue now. The sweatiest players are usually squaded up and out of 15 players dumped into the average solos shegolskoe match only like 2-4 are actually scary to fight. If you are getting 3rd partied a lot after triggering a mob you need to play more patiently or equip the speed perks to get out of dodge quicker. Also it seems like you haven't played Tarkov recently if you think it plays anything like this game. >>3065530Yeah, the reduced gear fear turns what would be immensely frustrating in other games into a minor setback. It's only really bad when you find an item you need to extract to unlock it in the replicator.
>>3065618>It's only really bad when you find an item you need to extract to unlock it in the replicatorI found a sweet Abakan with one of the special modifiers in the PvE mode and put it into my safe container. I had 12 minutes left in the raid when the game crashed. I crashed out so hard after that. I loaded the game back up and saw I couldn't reconnect like I could with PvP matches. Then in some crazy circumstance, I saw a notification that all the gear I brought into that raid was returned to me. I had large rig, large backpack, and a kitted out AK-12. I was super surprised the game knew to do that. Like a dev was watching my game and took pity or something. The game crash was my computer's fault too to be honest.
>>3064568>Shy Girl>I skipped everything except leg day.O.OVery hot if I had to be quite honest with you famalam
where the fuck are the extended mags for the origin and pp2000?
>>3065653She won't attack you if you don't look
>>3066457finding any type of extendo mags for anything is extremely rare
The more I play Active Matter, the more I feel the STALKER vibes. They should add more maps with deep spooky bunkers, military complexes, and horrific mobs like controllers but I guess devourers are scary and similar enough. Statues though were frightening when I first encountered them.
>>3066889>They should add more maps with deep spooky bunkers,They could add all that and people will still queue up factory for the millioneth time. I really don't understand it. Park has this badass underground section and people want to play shitty ass Ozergoe or Shitsumu over and over again.
>>3066889I want a moon/mars basearctic a la the thing would be cool too
>>3064164>Reddit spacing>PVE playerWho coulda guessed?
>>3066889>horrific mobs like controllersThat's just the devourer and I hate that nigger. Learned how good it feels to get up on them and two-shot them with a shotgun. Very much like the controller.
>>3066983the inside of the dam and the park bunker are both pretty intense I hope they expand the tunnel in dogorsk to have a bunker complex
>>3067405Yes the bunker is awesome in park which why it is so sad those maps are rarely played.
>cargo port>place and protect scanner objective>located in the gravity trap field by the power station with several ball lightings>flanked on both sides by minefields>try it anyway>first invisible spawn activates a gravity trap which throws me close enough to activate the minefield>panic and run away from the mines closing in on me into another grav trap>thrown into a wall and get DBNO>mash the painkiller key>too late, hit by 5 mines at once, lose everythingyeah place and protect and vehicle transfer missions are just not worth the trouble
>>3067162farming investigations and resources in PvE to stockpile PvP gear is the meta thoughI dont blame new players for sticking with PvE for awhile although they demand to be catered to pretty heavily, the lower rewards for less risk is a good balance right now I think
>>3067682place and protect is fine if you abuse the level geometry to place the beacon in a very difficult place to attack. In Cargo Port I placed it on top of a truck crane boom.
>>3067798It didn't click for me how STALKER this was until I started actually using my better gear and was amazed at what a power upgrade it is.
So sad how this game did not take off while slop like mistfall hunters or sand raiders did.
>>3068998Don't know what that shit is
>Waiting for extraction in PvE>Random turned bullet paints the wall with my brainsFUCK YOU
>>3069608sometimes the turned just seemingly two tap you out of nowhere. kinda silly.
>>3068998>mistfall hunters took offanon...
>>3068516just wait until they add exosuits
>>3070505well relative to this game yes
I've never played extraction slop before. Any entry level recs? I have tarkov but i never played it and i feel like i missed out on when it was popular
>>3074538I am guessing since youre in this thread AM has interested you. This would be pretty beginner level. The pvp does have some sweats but it is relatively easy to avoid the PvP even on the smaller maps. PvE mode is available for all maps at any time and still has pretty good loot so you can farm up pretty easily there. The game also has a crafting system, so long as you have the crafting blueprint for a gun or equipment, you can make them again either via insta-crafting via resources or the timed-crafting which has a set amount of charges.Pretty forgiving in that sense. TTK is also pretty quick on all guns so even the starter AK can knock a fully armored guy very quickly.
>>3074538I'm normally iffy on the genre. Hunt: Showdown used to be one of my favorite games of all time, but they overhauled the engine and it's just not the same game anymore.Active Matter is scratching the same itch while being satisfyingly STALKER-like. I haven't done as much PvP as Hunt, but I liked how in that game the mechanics of the guns meant that a back-and-forth between players was much more strategic, tense, and tactical. With the armor system in Active Matter it's much the same.
https://activematter.game/en/news/361>Fixed bugs with gear presets, refined lighting in dark areas and at night, restored the intended recoil to pistols, and fixed some issues with item collection contracts. https://activematter.game/en/news/359>The maximum total number of players in Shegolskoe, Factory and Ozernoe Open Raids with “Solo only” matchmaking has been reducedhttps://activematter.game/en/news/356>We’ve completely revamped control settings, including adding many new aiming settings for both mouse and keyboard as well as controllers. An option to further remove camera sway has been added, and in addition we’ve improved sound positioning so that you can pinpoint the direction of threats more accurately.>Managing gear has become less of a hassle, magazines no longer can drop on reload, visual recoil when using scopes has been adjusted, and improved item swapping when changing backpacks and safe containers at the Shelter.>In large monster concentrations, enemies now spawn less often and in waves, and there's a dedicated device for clearing them out.>This is all, as always, in addition to countless other fixes and improvements!
When will they introduce the wacky perks like parkour and wall climbing?
I played the demo a little bit when it was on Steam, how's the single player content? I know there's PvE, and I don't mind any lack of story since I'm content with a couple matches every now and then as long as there isn't any FOMO events like Enlisted and War Thunder constantly have
>>3077841there are daily recurring objectives for progression, does that count? its a special map condition they had for some days where you could find ww2 weapons on one map. there is a battlepass that progresses depending on prestiging your character and special rewards for these 90 day battlepass cycles. but for this first battlepass, its like trophy base decorations. the other rewards for the battlepass will always remain there forever because in the new system, you can always buy access into any old battlepasses.
>>3078059>there are daily recurring objectives for progression, does that count? its a special map condition they had for some days where you could find ww2 weapons on one map.mean to say daily refreshing objectives for progression, and there was a separate map event that had the ww2 guns.pic related said battlepass. the onces that have the yellow banner and with exclusive written are these seasons exclusive rewards for the battlepass and wiping. just camo, trophy and a dogtag. no guns or no character. when they make a new battlepass in 90 days or whatever, you could still buy into this current battlepass or finish when the new one starts and still get all those weapons and guns.
>>3078073the ww2 guns can be found on other maps now
>>3078091oh really? well there you go anon.
>>3078091>>3078096It's good if you got them though because they're rare and the drum ppsh is just insane in this game
>>3078073How do the battle passes work if you wipe your character? Do you have automatic access to all the ones you were in before or do you have to spend the purple resource to buy each battle pass and then use merits to unlock prior stuff. Or is the stuff you unlock with merits permanent?E.g. if you buy that RSh-12 revolver for 6k merits this battle pass, then wipe your character next battle pass, is it unlocked or do you have to go back and buy 250 Shades of Liberty and then spend another 6k merits to get the RSh-12?
>>3078249>is it unlocked or do you have to go back and buy 250 Shades of Liberty and then spend another 6k merits to get the RSh-12?i wiped before this new battlepass thing and i was already enrolled to the old pass and my progress and rewards were saved. its only like 250 purple points anyways to buy in, quests and priority objectives give 20 per. so in my pic, i bought the dp-12, lets say they give a new pass, i will save my entry and progress to the old pass.
The underground section of park is so fucking complicated the raid always times out before I've explored all of it
>>3079384It is a really cool section of the map. The accompanying questline for it is cool too.
what happened to the weekly map events? they were a good way to trim down a full stash instead of playing ozernoe over and over
Does anyone have a list of what gear items can be looted? Or are certain items like weapon mods only obtainable through the shop, replicator, or fusion? I tried looting an M16A4 from a container to unlock it but only found out after it wasn't an Enriched copy. So do certain items not exist in an Enriched copy? If I want a new foregrip can I find an Enriched copy in-game?
>>3081392you can look at the replicator menu and mouseover a blueprint to see how it is unlocked, most weapon mods are monolith unlocks but a few are extract enriched, some like the m14 scope dont show in the menu until you extract themI think they added the m16a4 to the loot rng this update but forgot to make it enriched, same with the modded m45
>>3078073I am happy they adjusted the spectrum scope to be more useable the M39 is kind of worthless, the RPL is fun, the DP12 is the best manual action shotty in the game, the revolver seems like a meme and I am looking forward to the mini AK
>>3081489oh and the MAC is alright I guess. SMGs feel kind of like noob traps outside of really niche use cases
>>3081489the mini ak looks sick gotta hurry and grind the monolith
>>3081471>I think they added the m16a4 to the loot rng this update but forgot to make it enriched, same with the modded m45I found an M249 Para in a box and extracted hoping it would unlock the gun but it turned out to not be Enriched so it wasn't unlocked>you can look at the replicator menu and mouseover a blueprint to see how it is unlockedA bunch of weapon mods say you can unlock them by extracting with them but I have literally never seen a weapon mod besides the Gepard SMG Suppressor and maybe a few others I'm forgetting but it's very limited basically from what I've seen. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places for them. I've never seen enriched stuff from air drops so if you're trying to unlock stuff that way they're not it.
How does it hold up when compared to Tarkov?
>>3084147What does that even mean?
>>3084377How does this game play like when compared to Tarkov? How much content does it have? How sweaty is the PvP? Hwo arcadey or realism oriented is it?
>>3084387it doesnt really play like tarkov other than some of the same weapons being featured because there is no AP ammo or armor that invalidates hundreds of rounds connecting, and it has monsters and anomalies that populate every raida pretty significant amount of content bolstered by being able to self wipe after unlocking the progression levels to get more rewards, but no campaign missions or anything just questlines and procedural objectives for a given mapthe PvP isnt that sweaty, not even in the same category as the metafaggotry of EFT, but your mileage may varyits not very arcadey at all with a conscious effort to be more hardcore than the devs other projects, but there isnt a pointless food/water/rest system eitherits more like an extraction stalker than a tarkov with monsters IMO, its also way less buggy than EFT or stalker while having really nice quality of life features like an easy to use live map and keys being labeled to what they can be used for, it also has mag packing animations and drivable vehicles which tarkov may as well never have at this point
my stash is too fulltime to run around like an idiot for a few raids
>>3081667The SAW is locked behind an investigation
are there more secret quests? i know about the one with the crashed heli in the lake but are there more?
>>3085303the whatnow
>>3085323quests that activate via world exploration. theres one in either ozernoe or shagenzoe where you jump into the lake, dive and find the crashes heli and a quest is activated. quest reward is the scar blueprint.
>>3085401oh there's the one with the headquarters servers that unlocks the g3 and a couple others but it's been so long I don't remember
>>3085860>that unlocks the g3 oh i really like the g3. you go to the bunker or something?
>>3085882there are documents in the safes in each bunker and one in the hotel and they need to be extracted that's all I remember
They really catered to the shitters with the reduced monster spawns huh
>>3086023pvpbabs mad they could not ignore pve
The KS-23 chunks enemies. The ammo is expensive and heavy but boy does this thing slap.
>>3086069Huh?
I found out devourers can get two-tapped with a shotgun. What is the best way to deal with alpha mimics?
>>3087251firepower
>>3086435those players you killed early in the webm?
>>3087360I was hiding inside a car garage. I heard the alpha mimic above the building. I thought I was safe but mimics kept pouring into the garage. I had to run away but they slowed me down and got me. I was so pissed after that.I was using the Abakan and I don't know if the Abakan is it.>>3087890Nope, pve bots. I was trying to knock out some investigations.
>>3088631LMG magdump to the windshield works pretty wellthe headlights pop like flashbangs if you shoot them but idk if that speeds it up or notexpect to burn like 300 rounds to kill them though
just had a guy miss me with an RPG only to die to my grenade lol
>>3089841Surely you're supposed to paint them with molotovs or something.
>>3093285fire doesnt work too well against mimics and distorded (takes too long and they will spread the fire onto you) so I would bet its no good for alpha mimics either. RPG is probably the best solution but impractical, you can frag it when it hits the ground, but you have to shoot it first
>>3088631The AN-94 isn't particularly impressive, I much prefer the AEK.
Anyone know how to unlock the secondary VSS Vykhlop recipe?
https://activematter.game/en/news/361https://activematter.game/en/news/363
>>3097774the other vss assualt rifle? luck, really. keep opening those weapon cases on the later maps.
>>3099309Nah man the sniper rifle"Alternate Fusion A" or something like thatApparently it gives it the lightweight modifier with less recoil
How often do you bring beacons?
>>3101213oo right the big bolt action
Is the PvE cooperative and crossplay? And how's the console experience? I think my brother might like the setting of the game, but I'd rather introduce him in a more controlled manner before we have to face packs of people teaming
>>3103763only you and your squad in pve and yes there is crossplay. i think for console you have to turn it on as it is disabled by default.
https://activematter.game/en/news/365
>>3105713any special loot or just for funsies?
>>3105843these events are always really fun for PVPlots of people with good kits you can rob
what's the matter?
devs made a post announcing over 500k sales. to me that is not a lot but if theyre announcing it, i guess thats a good number for them so i think that means game will still be supported for the time being.
>>3114837500k is pretty good for double dipping on warthunder infantry assets $15 million assuming base editions only
the pp2000 reload is way too longthe ppsh is flatly better
>>3119264Prefer assault rifle desu. TTK is flatly better and they have way better range than SMGs.
>>3119969SMGs as a class are kind of a noob trap unless you are really focusing on mobility.
The firestorm event is pretty fun.
https://activematter.game/en/news/369
>>3125083On sale on steam?
>>3120752the only smg i like is the ump since it hits pretty hard
How rapey is the pvp compared to tarkov, how does the pve compare to stuff like gray zone and the like?
>>3127656PvP is piss easy compared to EFT unless you are bad at hardcore shooters, never played gray zone.
750 merits per day is too little
>>3129388That's why you have to wipe max to grind merits through the monolith
>>3129401I rather not
>>3126245https://store.steampowered.com/app/2887580/Active_Matter/
>>3129415Resetting your skill tree is a pretty big argument against doing it too often
Bought this to try it out, seems pretty fun and actually runs well on my rig which is shocking for a newer release. FOV feels weird though, even at 100 it still kind of feels too zoomed in, I think maybe because the viewmodels for the guns are so big.
>>3131110it runs on the dagor engine so it runs very well and looks good too
>>3131122Yeah pretty happy with it, I'll keep fucking around in it and seeing how it goes
>>3131110>>3131122It's nice they have their in-house Dagor engine. The incredible optimization is similar like Enlisted. They develop the game with consoles in mind so it has to run on consoles. It reminds that a game can look great and run great. It's not the typical UE5 slop.
Is the Fire Station on Ozernoe the pvp hotzone? It was an absolute shitfest and there must have been like 6 people there at least.
>>3132342I was playing it on Firestorm and it was empty every time I went. I was able to loot up undisturbed there.
>>3132557I was playing on the regular variant., just always seems generally busy there. Lots of tool items there though.
Does anyone know what the difference between Recoil Deviation and Accuracy is?
I just realized there is a solo queue option for open raids, that might have been my issue lol.
>>3132342its usually the houses by the lake that are like a warzone, but it depends on the spawns back when there wasnt a solo queue every raid there was usually a duo that would hit the firestation together though, which can counter sniping from the admin building if you aren't careful
>>3132868>I just realized there is a solo queue option for open raids, that might have been my issue lol.Solo queue puts you into free-for-all matches, right?
>>3132919it should yeah, only other solo players
halloween investigation added
>>3134319
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc_ChLCYiN4
https://activematter.game/en/news/374BTRs getting added
Is there any reason I wouldn't want to hack someone's mindvault after killing them?
>>3135016Their accumulated Active Matter drops and you get a dog tag which can used in a fusion recipe for monolith tokens. It could prevent them from respawning or being revived but I'm not sure on that.
>>3135016it telegraphs your position to everyone in the raid
>>3134329lel the grenades
>>3134667so hyped for tanks and the faction war stuff
>>3135131Do they retain their active matter if I don't slurp their mind?
>>3135660I don't think they retain it if they die. I think you need to extract to collect the AM.
>>3135660noit also doesnt prevent rezing even though it really should
>>3135270for real. hired ops is trash compared to how nexus used to be, 80% of the fun was making loadouts with all the cool equipment and using it in constant PvP. also the new business center map has holes in the antigrav where you routinely just jump into the void which is really annoying
Honestly they should just delete Ms. Second from the game, same issue with Marathon's little helper AI randomly chiming in at the worst times. Everyone just turns that shit off instantly.
Went a whole raid without seeing a single player until the end when I get jumped by a few Distorted, turns out one of them was a player lmao.
>>3136679just turn it to minimum. I like that it gives some character to the game but it can be annoying in pvp. it's not a bad concept though
>>3138042Does the sarcasm bar change how often she chimes in? I just turned both sets of notifs off.
>>3138056afaik sarcasm just increases the inane but often amusing bullshit she saysI have that turned to max but her overall talking set to minimumnew players might benefit from keeping it on though because she points out quest items, but you can manually induce that by pressing alt+K with the map open
>>3138078I guess I missed a setting then.
>>3138078>because she points out quest itemsThat's why I keep her on. I found out if you open the map and hover over her icon then it tells you specifically what's in that area. Sometimes she helps remind me "oh wait, I forgot I need distorted remains" or "here are some invisibles for your quest." Not to mention that some of her femdom-coded language e.g. "bow before your goddess" is fucking hot and keeps me motivated.
Should I be refining the anomaly biomass or do I need to keep it to get credit for the investigation?
>>3140197what quest?
>>3140239Halloween one
>>3140197you just need to extract them, but they dont give you anything when refined
anyone figure out whats with the shadow people in raid since the pumpkins were added?
>>3141505>whats with the shadow people in raid since the pumpkins wut?
I'm gonna just do the poltergeist challenge on pve because it's already extremely annoying trying to get them to spawn and having to fight off players doing it just seems like aids.
>>3141581I wouldn't worry about it
>>3141657where are you farming them? the only reliable spawn I know is the school in dogorsk
>>3141789Yeah the kindergarten is where im trying. I got 2 to spawn but somehow one fucked off even though I threw 4 frags in the room it was in. Another ended up spawning in the downstairs kitchens and I was able to magdump it.
>>3141809just use the flamethrower
>>3141825I just bought the game like 2 days ago so I dont have access to that yet.
>>3141835in that case molotovs will probably be more effective than frags but whatever works works I suppose
>>3141883Ah yeah fair, forgot I had those
Will turning off lens flare fix some of the daytime lighting looking very blown out and bright on some of the maps? It doesn't happen all the time, just in some spots and certain times of day.
>>3141665spooky wonder if thats a real lore thing now or if its just for halloween
>>3141665Does not everyone get these? I see them pretty much on every map.
>>3142362Was that you I was talking with about the sunlight being blinding on Downtown?
>>3142433No lol, but that's funny that other people are mentioning it. It's legit hard to see sometimes.
Movement speed is so fast that it makes bolt-actions useless. And because movement speed is so fast while recoil is so high it makes killing players at range very difficult. I don't know how I feel about that.
>>3142467I think the real issue is weird start and stop of the sprinting. With the heavier sleeves, armor and people usually carrying a big ass sniper rifle for long range, the speed itself isnt all that fast. The issue is then the instant start and stop of sprinting and how quickly a person can turn on a dime alongside things like bunny hopping which gives it that jerky unnatural movement which makes it harder to track. it does feel sucky if youre not into that fast action and turning radius.
>>3142467bolt actions are really good but you have to be well positioned and patient. I think they are well balanced considering how annoying it is to be instantly killed from nowhere
>>3142477I dont think bunny hoping works in this game, I have never seen someone do it even in the PvP only mode
>>3142497what map is that?
>>3142497The Shooter Born in Heaven...
>>3142507factory
>>3142512Thank God you were there to save that Distorted
>>3142518I do what I can
im glad the M110 isnt as omnipresent as it used to be, but im not sure why as they didnt really nerf it, its still very good308 weapons in general seem like the meta