Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9701 - Tails Dies, Sorry Guys Edition==NEWS==>Discord server for some reasonhttps://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/2107231633082294555>SONIC PICO PARK on 12 November 2026https://picoparkgame.com/spp/>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond on 12 November 2026https://youtu.be/gg33XSAtdZM>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 on 19 March 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie>Netflix animated series for preschoolers with attitude in productionhttps://variety.com/2026/film/news/crazy-taxi-movie-netflix-sega-sonic-stranger-than-heaven-1236861148/==COMICS==Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #4 - 11 November 2026Sonic and the Blade of Courage #18 - November 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #92 - 9 December 2026==OTHER==>Linkshttps://rentry.org/sthglinks>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ruPrevious Zone: >>586252729
>>586287343Shadamy won
>>586287343Sonurge won
>>586287491Yup.
i pray for cnc. cnc can save us
*headpats your OC*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_B6J0a79uM
>>586287536of course. but i am sincere.
>>586287491>>586287519shadamy makes more sense when you realize amy saw sonic degrade to shit since 1993
Your honest thoughts on Kit interacting with Cream, Charmy, Marine or Sage?
>>586287879Then you're just ignorant.
Who'd be dumb enough to spend the night in Pumpkin Hill?
>>586287983I have been consuming sonic slop since the 2000s. and re-consumed again and again. I think you are blinded by your own preferences. which is fair but to call others disingenuous is a bit uhhhh retarded.
>>586287603Shadamy cnc. Sonamy is old and busted.
>>586287653What’s your OC dressing up as for Halloween?
>>586287627Thank you Grant for being generous enough to tell the Discord user who didn't want Amy to love Sonic anymore. You have helped exposed an enormous franchise tampering scheme being orchestrated by Sega of America and now its time for those behind it to face the consequences
>>586288206Whatever you say.
>>586288206snc (spooky and canon)
Kids! :D>>586287921Cute!
>>586288401Look at these besties!
>>5862879071994 was amazing.
Happy Weener!
Are you 12 to discuss ships in a serious and deranged manner
>>586288476Aaaahhh!!! AwesomeSonic dressed as the Werehog is cool lol
>>586288401
Ian is too powerful
586288471We know you love kids Tailspedo, no need to shout it out.
Sonamy lostSonurge won
>>586288223Emil Castagnier, Komano Manato, and Lina Inverse respectivelyalready drew another as a cowboy, but that was a challenge thing
Man, I'm really speechless.Duo won. He really fucking won in the end it all.I'm surprised we haven't gotten any drawings on this yet.
new Tails prototype.https://hiddenpalace.org/News/Happy_Halloween_2026!_A_Journey_Through_STI%27s_Early_Years
>>586289106I'm about to try it!!!!!
Why don't they just vault Amy instead and use Rouge as the girlboss?
Surge wants to have sex with Sonic
Ok Treasure Tails is even more incomplete than I expected, I don't understand how it worksStill neat though
>>586289276what's that OOC panel at the end?
Surge is a fillerslop character. She will never reach the heights of Shadamy.
Surge's story arc will be complete when Sonic's penis is inside her pussy. The final gap will close.
Oh nvm it wasn't emulating properly
I NEED to cuddle with a fat werehog
>>586289573Sonic is a cuck. He doesn't breed.
>>586288401>>586289192Very sweet but don't let picrel distract you from the fact that Ian wrote Amy to not love Sonic anymore in the English script of Frontiers and that Chris will not give up until Amy is made unrecognizable. That's why the 35th anniversary version of the Welcome to the Wonderful World of Sonic book erased Amy's love for Sonic and why the Sega of America website bio did the same and why the Sonic Channel bio did it just recently. Chris thought he could do it without anyone noticing but we proved him wrong and now he has to pay
>>586289454That’s his “I will breed you soon” expression
>>586289192>HUURRRRR look at them holding hands!As bad as Sonazefags.
>>586289609imagine the softness
>>586287603Sheesh, it's no wonder why she's cold!
>>586289717OLD and BUSTED and badly drawn
Reminder Surge is for Sonic. Sonic never loved Amy
>>586289717Sonic Team doesn't dare do this in the games because they're cowards
>>586289874More than what your ship will ever have. Seethe.
It's Fowler, not Chris. It's Fowler. Not Chris. I'm telling you it's Fowler.
>>586289923Based.
>>586290039It's Ian.
You know what? Shadow and Amy are not that bad. I think I'm finally seeing the light.
Sonamy is good.
>PrepsTailsCream>Delinquents CharmyMarine>GothsKitSage
sega is such a shit company, they made the concept of a character having a crush on their mascot look disturbing
>>586290391He is ignoring her
I'm beginning to think that the moments where Amy smiles and blushes after Sonic carries her and when they hold hands in that upcoming animation were meant to be some kind of decoy or distraction from the Sonic Channel bio change. It feels like Chris and the lore team thought fans would be so distracted with talking about those moments and making fan art of it that they wouldn't notice what happened to Amy's Sonic Channel bio. We must be on the lookout for things like this
>>586289229titless mcgee has no motion
>>586290481Is there any other company that is clearly so embarrassed about its own mascot?
>>586290352Ignoring shipfagging, what narrative reason does amy have to start fawn over shadow potentially?
Shipfags deserve this.
Treasure Tails! :D
>>586288172>I have been consuming sonic slop since the 2000s. and re-consumed again and again.Then you should know better.
>>586290674Why would SEGA prioritize protecting Sonic when it is not their biggest money maker?
>>586290805take off your pink colored shades
>>586290728shadow gets more games
Ian Flynn won
Maybe this emulator isn't good either. Or it's just brokenAlso the internal name is TREASURE TALES
>>586289923Duofag, if that's still you, can you gen Sonic and Surge dancing themselves on Amy's tombstone saying "Here Lies Amy - She Never Scored"?
>>586290481Sega does not care about Sonic. They can't kill it because it makes them the most money, so they let whatever mess happens inside Sonic Team happen as long as they still are getting money and they likely support the politics of IDW and the changes in Amy because it fits their ESG quota and makes the most vocal twitterfags happy.
>>586289923What is wrong with you
>>586290992That sounds funny, I will gen it later
>>586290574He isn't pushing her away either.
Sonic x Amy is a chaseSonic x Blaze is a danceSonic x Surge is an all-night brawl
>>586290674Can't leak a game that doesn't exist
>>586289609>>586289790So red rocket or just a plain penis?
>>586290648Marvel comics hates Spider-Man and are in the same position as Sega where they are still forced to shill him because of all the money they get from him.
>>586290728ntafrom my pov, I see Amy as someone who got inspired by Sonic and worked on herself and then later on she inspires Shadow. and sets "messing around with his autistic brain" as her new goal. "i can fix him" but not really since she already did the fixing part in SA2
>SonAmy being erased>Shadow will breed Amy>Silver will be revealed be the child who transported to the future X-Men style
Douge
>>586290921the joke of sonic and amy was at sonic's expense, but this wankstain fanbase didn't realize until their bullshit complaints reached sonic team
What if the Amy change is movie synergy and the backlash is big enough we get a repeat of 2019?
>>586291427Fuck off already. Shadow will never love Rouge.
>>586291427CnC
>>586291601Keep crying Krack.
>>586291242I see amy as ''trying to fix'' but naturally inspiring by being proactive
>>586291542Sonic is a cultural icon and Amy isn't. Most Sonic fans didn't know she existed until Sonic Adventure.
>>586291601?
>>586291542That's what I'm hoping for. it would be glorious
>>586290865They aren't. Sonic Team are.
>>586291846I wonder if this is also SOA/lore team
>>586292278Directly from Sonic Channel, so no.
>>586290986Same thing happened when I tried it. I think it's just a rendering issue with the prototype.
>>586292406Sonic Channel is compromised
>>586292492No, Krack.
>>586290975Now English-language gaming websites are picking up on the news. This is a PR nightmare for Sega. Things like this is what causes companies to backpedal. Companies can't stand bad publicity. Keep it up
>>586292474This looks more complete, I don't know the development history or what build we have>>586292578I'm not Krack lol
>>586290391Sonic Team was absolutely crazy for doing this scene desu
>>586288586amy has been chasing that high ever since, like everyone else
>>586291190Neither.
>>586289923surge will get vaulted like every other whore sega shilled and dropped
>Curiously, an included design document indicates the game was meant to be a tie-in to the television show Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog. Like Sonic Spinball and the corresponding Adventures episode "Attack on Pinball Fortress", Treasure Tails would have tied into a specific episode of the show: "Tails' Tale", in which Tails goes on a solo adventure through an ancient temple and eventually squares off with a villain named Comomatz. Which came first, the episodes or the games? Considering Mean Bean and Sonic-16, it makes you wonder how many TV show tie-ins Sega management had planned.AoStH sounds awesome, I gotta watch it someday
You guys are attacking the wrong guy
>>586291792>nobody bought a sega cd>the sonic manga was japan only>the game gear sold more than the dreamcast, but the dreamcast's best selling game, sa1, sold 2.5 million and the game gear's best selling game, sonic 2, sold only 400,000 and had no amy>nobody reads comics and most people only care about archie for porn or are powerscaler larpersamy had bad luck in the media she was used in until sonic adventure
>>586293015Sure bestie
>While these graphics were created, we're not sure they were programmed into the game before the creation of this prototype and the project's cancellation.I see... So those images where the game looks more complete are likely mockups huh
Since erasing the ages was also part of Sega of America's, only the Sonic Channel bios from this time period are canon:https://web.archive.org/web/20220604065119/https://sonic.sega.jp/SonicChannel/character/
>>586291242For the last time the art in the "fan gallery" doesn't mean shit
>>586292406Amy became soa-fied so it is there.
>>586292939So just a null crotch?
>>586293182Finally someone who gets it. Erasing ages was the first sign that something was disturbingly wrong.
>>586293350Yeah, I don’t need it to be anymore gay
Why do you like the inflation weasel?
>>586290728He's cool.
>>586293307I'm using this to explain concept
>>586287807Surge would be scarier if she was wearing less
>>586293182 (me)*Sega of America's agenda
>>586293050then it's up to him to cc the right people
I feel relieved seeing people finally realize erasing ages was an agenda move
>>586293354>>586293347>>586293182>>586293562>>586293640is this a bot lol
>>586291427Rouge should wear less
>>586293640Same>>586293690No?
>>586293104until then, we're stuck with idiots pumping the threads with ai garbage
>>586293050>Throwing Sega under the bus to try to save his own skin and save his now completely destroyed reputation
Sucks I gotta work tonight. At least I saw a double rainbow this morning.Happy Halloween, losers!https://youtu.be/RnbhTUKFgMQ
How did this place feel about the Shadow vs Mewtwo Death Battle that came out this year?
>>586292406>sonic channelIt's obvious sonic channel has lax standards so you really can't trust anything on there anymore. The fan gallery is misleading enough half the time
>>586293805Where
>>586293903I didn't watch it because I'm not 12
>>586293874Happy halloween, friend.
>>586293994>>586293347>>586292492You have to be a huge Sonic hater if you are seriously disregarding SONIC FUCKING CHANNEL just because your headcanons were broken.
>>586294035Yet go to Sonic threads, and Sonic is for children. Curious.
>>586294134You're acting like secondaries aren't using shit they see on sonic channel to launder their headcanons. The only actual canon material comes from the games, and then only jap scripts
>>586293903animation was really good and profesional, don't really care about death battles but it's good for the eye candy
>>586294134If it has westshit influence then its compromised, we know westshit influence strengthened in 2020s
isn't chris also the guy who said prime is canon
>the Game Grumps hate everything about Sonic except Sonamy, Knuckles, Mighty, and Rouge's boobs>Sonamy is dead, Mighty is trapped in the classic ghettos, and Rouge got boob reductionThey are GRUMP.
Oh, we have a bunch of source code and assets as wellThe source code names call him Miles
>>586294431Yes. Him and Ian Flynn
>>586294473Knuckles will be dead soon
>>586293430EVERYONE needs to get FATTER
>>586294570Knuckles will live because Sonic will become his boyfriend.
>>586290674Did any source code get leaked? Also, this is retaliation for turning Amy into a dyke.
>>586288476Surge would be much scarier here if she was wearing less!
Sonamybesties are not well in the head
Treasure Tales meetingCalled by: KenWhen: 11:00 am 15 March 1993Where: Game RoomWho's invited: Hoyt, Earl, Craig.Be prepared to discuss:The two different view angles we've been exploring recently, advantages and disadvantages of each.Staffing issues, specifically, the question of whether we have enough people available.Plans/Ideas/Notions for getting this thing done. (Alpha is in June, ready or not)Decisions to be made:What perspective will we use?
I will use and upload your artwork (without consent).
I self insert as the Wind
wow its almost like filling the lore team with archiefags would negatively impact the game characters
>>586294680She is not a dyke. She loves Shadow.
>>586294627Sonic and Friends
>>586294857You can’t keep getting away with this, Fi’!
>>586294621I AGREE
Get archie'd.
Ok I'll continue to read this later, time for a break
>been writing a fanfic about the influence of SOA vs SOJ on the characters >this happens Convenient but also terrible
>SEGA fucked up so badly that they somehow got BOTH the East and West to mass revoltHow do they do it?
>>586295194No you
>>586295236Fucking over the shippersThey're insane and ready to kill for their ideals
>>586293416Right but how would you do gay sex stuff with? Null frotting...? Null trouser too?
>>586295131The boss does whatever she wants.
>>586294874Wasn’t there a Sega interview with Ian and Evan where they spoke about Amy having problematic elements or something
>>586295536Yes
>>586295492Who said I want that? I just want to cuddle
>>586289338regrettably it increased her bust size but it gave her a cute embarrassed expression and pose so I'll allow it
Barby did nothing wrong.
>>586295631I'm fucking livid. I can't take it anymore. Jesus Christ.
>>586295589I was going to be DMC5 Dante but the plan fell through so now I'm home playing video games
>>586295589I am going to wear amy's ass like a hat.
>>586292738Either there's another undiscovered build or that's just a mock-up. Hard to know until something else turns up. But the build we have is from April 1993 and it was cancelled the same month.
>>586295631These people are so full of shit. They’re shippers at heart but just hate Amy.
>>586291125>Sonic doesn't release mainline 3D games anymore>Mario doesn't release mainline 3D games anymoreWhat happened to my heroes...?
>>586295729>>586295536>>586294874>>586295807Honest question, what's the use with doomfagging like this restlessly for every FUCKING SINGLE THREAD EVER
>>586295631That’s the one. It seems pretty likely these changes started with the lore team.
>>586295807We now know for a fact Ian destroyed Shadow and Fiona's characters in Archie because of shipping. He is doing the same to Amy. He is a huge shipperfaggot.
>>586295631this is the reason chapter 91 sucks. It's so safe they forgot to add appeal>Silver can't save Blaze, that's toxic masculinity>Blackwood can't do anything creepy to mind controled Blaze, that's sexist>Let's focus on Dapple, we need to empower random nobodies because (You) are special, not the MC the plot is about
>>586295898You’re right. We need to take action head on. Infiltrate SoA and run it our way.
>>586289338>>586295704It keeps on making her embarrassedperhaps it's more cultured than I gave it credit for...
>>586295898Sonic not good.
Cindy Robinson literally said a few weeks ago that she actively asks for girlboss Amy when she's in the studio and they let her do it because it's been 15 years
>>586295940We don't even need to imply for Amy. He outright told us after Frontiers.
>>586296001Who tf is Dapple anyway? Where did she come from? Has she actually done anything?
>>586295898Hide the posts or leave the thread faggot, I’m only trying to figure out why this is happening.>>586296001No wonder the female characters are all boring holy shit. It’s ironic that the fleetway dude, Nigel King I think, pointed out how one dimensional Amy would become if she were forced into a role model character.
>>586296001I think it'd actually work better if it was a solo blaze story, even if evan can't write blaze.
Chris could he only get away with lying for so long until all of his meddling was revealed. He now has to answer for all of his actions. What happens in the dark comes out in the light. Divine providence is on our side
Shadow loves Maria!
>>586295704>>586295704>>586296083okay last one
>>586296204They need to replace the entire English cast, to be honest. Every time one of them talks about doing their job, I trust them less and less to do it. And the ones that don't fall into that category are also losing their ability to do the voices anymore anyway, assuming they ever really could.
every time someone mentions chris i think of chris thorndyke
>>586296001If it was safe, why even go for the route for the villain being horny for her and mind controlling her? it feels like nothing happened yet the premise alone is still ragebait for blazefags.
Does anyone have that pic of Amy holding a person up and saying "I do WHAT with human men?"
chris jericho!
How will people look back at this era of Sonic in the future? Will they call it the True Dark Age? I would.
>>586295850They became successful movie franchises which is the death of any vidya property.
>>586296204Source? No wonder she told Sonic in the English version of Frontiers: The Final Horizon "I'm not just a damsel in distress anymore. One day you'll be relying on me for help"
>As soon as he's hired he immediately starts dismantling Fiona's relationship with Sonic because it's a threat to Sonally>Takes Penders' future timeline story and makes Shadow evil for no other reason than to drive Sonally>Turns Amy into a literal cuck so that he can ship Sonally>Turns Fiona, Shadow, Geoffrey all even because they threaten Sonally>Gives Mina a random boyfriend so she can't be a threat to Sonally>Shipteases Sonally for years and years>As soon as he's mandated to stop the shit he immediately starts writing an arc where Sally is forcefully gutted and changed by Eggman>When he has to reboot the comic his first thought was to immediately start shipteasing Salcole (pic very much related)>Has been one of, if not the main driving force behind removing Amy's love for Sonic.
>>586296440No but I have this one.
>>586296321Maria would be scarier if she was wearing less
>>586296427Apparently hypnotism is a fetish, and fetishes are safe somehow, especially for kids. So of course Evan would write that in.
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/581280713/#q581303552Spooky predictions that come true. BOO
>>586296474This shitass franchise has had 3 dark ages
Why is this entire thread nothing but bitching about shipping? Are you all women or something?
>>586296427reread, Blackwood didn't even want to did this to Blaze, he really thought he could convince Blaze into conquering the world.Blackwoods whole appeal is being a creppy bastard. It's obvious. The fanbase just pretends Evan's garbage characterization isn't real. But Evan wants to make it a good boy deep inside. She is so fucking boring holy shit
>>586296823This is why foids shouldn't be taught how to read or write.
>>586296775The first dark age wasn't even a dark age, it was just people being miserable about 06 and ignoring everything else.
>>586296823Males here also bitch about shipping because they dont have actual wifes
>>586296535https://youtu.be/9mw3L0gjhjY?&t=1509
>>586295928The changes to the Sonic Channel bios started happening shortly before Frontiers came out in November 2022. There was no lore team back then but Chris Hernandez was working for Sega and Katie was and still is the social media manager
>The first dark age wasn't even a dark age, it was just people being miserable about 06 and ignoring everything else.INSANE revisionism moderntard.
>>586296823I don't discuss shipping here in any capacity. It's literally never fun.
>Road to 100#Road to 100 farts?
>We are doing ground breaking changes to Sonic (again)>>There are angry people on twitter (Again)>That's the usual. besides 30 year old manchildren who like shipping are not our target demograpic, 10 year olds are.
>>586296974Meanwhile the Japanese voices:https://x.com/ririmu23/status/2116166827734864257
>>586296843Yeah, but the idea was still this guy being into her and still mind controlling her. if she was trying to be ''safe'' why even pitch this idea at all
>>586296535WHAT A BOLD, INNOVATIVE CONCEPTthis is almost as bad as tails being jealous of sonic working with eggman in sonic lost world. these fucking hacks can't even do basic research
>>586297058Shutup, classicfag.
>>586296639Close enough, thanks anon
>>586297058Go on, explain to me how bad everything was. And don't hesitate to ACTUALLY reply to me, instead of hiding behind an untagged post like a faggot. I was actually around back then. Most of the games were great. People complained about Unleashed of all things and then praised fucking Colors just because it had boost stages with no werehog despite the fact that it was a gimmick game with shitty levels. The "dark age" didn't exist.
>>586296823Because people think their ships are gonna happen because SEGA "killed" Sonamy.
>>586296890the first dark age was the sega saturn
>>586296474The True Dark age was 2012-2020This is The Slop age
>>586296427Despite the blatant fetish, in story, the whole mind control thing was pretty lame. It mainly focused on Dapple’s feelings rather than anything truly malicious on Blackwood (like actually hurting the mind controlled characters) and Blaze’s mind control was done so quickly without any real interaction with Blackwood (like him behaving creepy with her or something) which makes me wonder why it was even included.
>>586297332most of the thread is angry sonamyfags though
>>586297128she made a mistake, the result was making a good character for once
>>586297120We will never get gold like this in an officially sponsored way because of what Sonic Team did to Amy's Sonic Channel bio now
>>586297389It didn't even really have blaze beat up/torture blackwood in the end to make people emotionally masturbate to it
>>586296974sega found geriatrics to voice cartoon characters for kids, i hate this company so much
>>586296823Because shiptards are apparently infiltrating the official setting
>>586297348Okay, that one's probably fair. Don't get me wrong, I loved R and I thought Sonic World in Jam was awesome (plus we got Sonic the Hedgehog into Dreams in Christmas NiGHTS), but not having a main Saturn Sonic game because several were cancelled and one moved out to the next console was pretty bad.
>>586297549Tbf the jp vas are also like 60 something
>>586297036True but like you said, the people behind the lore team were already in position.
>>586297303
>>586297797LMAO Sonic sucks.
I love Tails so much.
>>586297564They have been doing that for a while. Silvaze, Sonaze, Shadria. SA2 is the first one with infiltrated shipping shit with Maekawa.And before that we have Naoto shipping Sonamy.
>>586296593To be fair archie editors themselves wanted it because it's literally archie, it survives on betty/veronica shit
>>586298035Do we have any shipper from ST side besides oshima and maekawa? I don't think we have anyone openly.
>>586297928He's my son.If only i had a son like him irl, i'd teach him how to draw and crack window.
>>586296593You're telling me Penders killed the Archie timeline in the name of Shadally
>>586296720something something wearing less, editors kept blocking this image specifically so here's a shitty amputee edit
>>586298230Maybe Naka? He has retweeted Sonails. Or was that Naoto, I forgot.
>>586298393It was ohshima. naka wanted to do sonic and madonna
>>586298393That was naoto, naka just retweeted some white cosplayer girl
>>586298267It's like the instilled the pure essence of boyhood in him.
>>586297797Like I said, it was just the 06 hate train. The "Dark Age" is ~2005-2009 (when Colors dropped). We got a TON of good games back then that were hated on just because they were Sonic, especially after 06.>Rush, Riders, Rush Adventure, Zero Gravity, Unleashed, arguably Black Knight, two Olympics gamesIt was a mixed bag like every other era of Sonic.
>>586298526he's the sweetest boy
>>586296593The more I think about Fiona’s heel turn the more sense it makes that a seething shipper wrote it>Sally’s written in a way that vindicates her earlier accusation so it doesn’t make her look like a bitch>Sonic, who only went after Fiona as a rebound, is written as the sympathetic party because as it turns out Fiona was a cheating whore all along anywayIt’s like it’s written in a way that doesn’t make Sally or Sonic look bad in the end, only Fiona.
>>586296687Not sure if you're him but please include the ability to confirm their relationshipfrom the original game
>>586298621the bestest boy I would give him all of my treats
>>586298646lol Fiona got turned into a scapefox
BOO!Happy Halloween, /sthg/!
>>586297303It was a dark age in the internet, no one was allowed to be a Sonicfag back then
Riders was peak and Sonic Team deserves to burn for mistreating it.
>>586295631>>586296001The only thing problematic is having these tubs of lard work on and take over this series to destroy it from within. Anyone who lobbied or shilled for these people to get in must pay for what they've done. Does it seem appropriate to anyone that a bunch of foreigner reddit and tumblr dorks have been taking over the entire franchise? This franchise is supposed to be cool. Why isn't anyone else pointing these things out?
How long before SEGA does damage control?
>>586298646She is written exactly like when shippers character assassinate someone to force their ship.
>>586297549They're a bunch of residue from the meta era. They have outlived their purpose. Roger Craig Smith still can't do a good Sonic voice and Cindy Robinson still can't do a good Amy voice>>586297751The JP VAs can still do a good job and voice acting is massively respected in Japan unlike in the west
Someone leak the next game.
>>586298646>>586298978Now that you mention it, it reminds me of that pokeshipping game where May is a whore for no other reason than to push AshxMisty.
>>586298891Pretty much. Being a Sonic fan hasn't been easy to say publicly ever since the 00s, even before 06. But after 06, you really had to keep your cards close to your chest. Everyone else had it out for Sonic fans. I remember just sorta quietly picking up new games and enjoying them but not really being able to talk about it with anyone. Shit sucked.
>>586298590You're correct, but they won't admit it because of their stubborness or dishonesty.
>>586294081Surge wearing less, very spooky
>next game
Where are the leaks? So many games have been leaked already and not this one.
Spooky OC
>>586299119Yes. Because Ian is the same kind of person
>>586297773Yes. All that was needed was for them to carelessly be granted more custody over the franchise by Takashi Iizuka to really begin the degeneration process this franchise has slowly been going through. It finally happened. Now the conspiracy is open for all to see
>>586297174Amy could have helped Sonic escape sooner if she was wearing less
>>586298909Twitter and Reddit with sycophants for Ian and Evan. Ian fled to Bluesky because he didn't want to hear criticism and just wanted to be in an echo chamber where he gets praised for everything he does
>>586298909I shilled Ian and Evan. Come at me faggot, don't pretend Forces was any better. At least I can admit I was wrong
>>586299708 me)Twitter and Reddit are are filled with sycophants
>>586299708I was so disappointed when people said Ian left social media, but in reality he just migrated to another website to get his dick sucked
GUYSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!Tails almost met The Ancients long before Frontiers!Why are none of you talking about this?
>>586300197Why do you want to talk about sonic lore instead of shipping and amy ships?
Is it possible for a Meta Cooler like enemy in Sonic?
>>586300197>almostBecause nothing happened.
>>586298956Maria would be spookier if she was wearing less
>>586300365what would the facebook page for a dead console know about being likable?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NDE6aUOaPCY
>>586298927Oh, Sega of Japan is already doing that. They recently had an event where 2 people respectively dressed in round Sonic and Amy mascot outfits got romantically intimate. Sega's only doing it in the hopes that it gets people to stop criticizing them over the bio.Chris Hernandez' mistake was thinking he was going to be able to ruin Amy's Sonic Channel bio in secret even after having done the same thing to Amy's bio in a book just months before and that only le bigot nazi chuds would hate get angry but everyone is angry now and he's liking posts that allege he's innocent and that it's actually Sega's fault in an attempt to make himself look like he's on our side
>>586300319They were even considering Mayan inspiration in 1993. How was STI predicting Sonic Team?
>>586300365And that's why we have this cardboard version of Amy. The only way she can be accepted is if she's a robot.
>>586295631>That's why Amy needs to fall in love with Shadow!
>>586299832Why did you shill them
>>586298978Like seriously just compare Fiona’s inoffensive writing before Ian came it. She wasn’t exactly a fan favourite so I guess people didn’t care (plus shiptards saw it as a win)
>>586300365Being an Amy fan is a constant humiliation ritual. Always has been.
>>586300352that depends, who is the Frieza of Sonic?
>>586300636>make himself look like he's on our sideThis was his strategy since day 1, I called it a long time ago if you check the archives
God, a week long crashout that just makes me hate this franchise more and mo you know what, fuck it, I'm done with Sonic, I hate the fanbase, i hate the people working on it, I hate the music, I hate the characters and I hate being here, I quit. I fucking quit. Sonic can go burn for all I care along with the rest of this worthless world.
>>586300615Dead franchise dead console
Costumes!
Amy is practically DESIGNED to make an entire group of people hate her specifically, on a conceptual level. Amy is Sonic's self-proclaimed girlfriend, and is the exact type of person to make that her whole personality. She wears her heart on her sleeve and is super-open about her feelings, and those feelings are "I AM THE GIRL WHO LOVES SONIC" screamed at the top of her lungs for the whole world to hear. And she is the Girl-Sonic, so she is inherently a rebellious counter-cultural force of nature yet is also super girly and feminine about it at the exact same time while actively dedicating her whole life to center around the guy she likes. Yet she is the "GIRLFRIEND.xml" figure for Sonic, who specifically DOESN'T wanna be tied down by any sort of relationship. So Amy's very role is a direct contradictory paradox AND THAT'S THE POINT. She is designed specifically to be in a neverending cycle of one way love turned into a cat and mouse game, and be the character made for that challenge of being the girlfriend for the guy who doesn't want any romantic partner in the first place, AND that specifically is what fuels her, motivates her, and makes her a STRONG AND INDEPENDENT WOMAN. She becomes -that- BY chasing after a guy relentlessly and smothering him in unasked for attention and being a pink girly fortune telling baking fashion-loving gyaru that's tomboyish enough to be part of the action and fight alongside Sonic anyway. Amy Rose is like a living weapon built to attack an entire sub-group of people whose lives center around an ideology against certain kinds of "problematic" female characters. And I think that's the coolest thing ever. Only the "Girl-Sonic" could achieve this level of a hatedom against her specifically that they have to infest SEGA and find any way to take her down, IRL. One young girl's love is just too much for the world to handle. Rosy the Rascal is beyond based.
>>586300816>a week long crashoutIt's been three days.
*PLAP* *PLAP* *PLAP*GET DEMORALIZED GET DEMORALIZED GET DEMORALIZED
>>586300741nothing could get worse than Forces so I shilled the lesser evil. Now there is nobody who stand out, so I just ask Sega to make game like 06 again and what for a miracle to happen.
>>586295631You can't hate westerners enough. I've watched this pollute and destroy so many works now.
>>586300954no. that character type was not really popular outside japan. and being in a boys media even
>>586300954The thing is people don't even care about male ''simpish'' characters unless its too pervy or something, they just accept it exists
Here's a count of major changes to Sonic Channel, by year.
Amy was always a token character to try and fool girls to get into this franchise
>>586300794that's the buy-in every sonic fan has to face, but most of them aren't smart enough to notice the irony with amy fans in particular
>>58630106406 would unironically be liked more if it came out in 2020s, people would be more into mephiles exeshit and jp symbolism/themes and such shit
>shitmyfags sonamycucks finally get their comeuppance this is what you get for being faggot annoying crackship cucks. accept the canon
>>586300816coward. real men are here to SEE the franchise burn
The world itself is garbage, as long as humanity exists the world will always be shit, a sane person understands this, a sane person would only need hope someone has the guts start nuclear Armageddon and free this world from humanity's stupidity and endless greed
>>586300808Don't forget his scummy affinity for going dark and waiting until controversy dies down so he return and go like "Hope everyone's having a wonderful day today!" and his release of merch and gaming content as a form of damage control after his meddling causes public outrage
The blackpill is safety. The blackpill will never betray you. Embrace the blackpill.
>>586301078Let this current scandal be a cautionary tale to other Japanese game development studios that this is what happens to their franchises if they allow westerners to take over it
>>586298646Fiona going evil is now more insidious when you start putting together the actual mentality behind it.
>>586301114this asswipe fanbase wants the series to be popular but also counter-culture somehow
>>586301853Sonic's core is counter-culture thoughbeit.
>>586301162a hollywood movie is a deal with the devil
>>586301162Does this mean the 2021 bios are the true ones? The 2022 ones had an unprecedented number of changes
>>586302012then why should anyone here give a fuck what's popular?
>>586301639絶望!
>>586302180>the changes happened around the year Sonic Frontiers came outNoticed.
>>586301385i don't have to accept a goddamn thing. we still have the movie.
The usual suspects.
>>586302180Yes.
>>586300197Elaborate?
>>586301853Sonic the Hedgehog at his core is a counter-cultural punk rock rebel, and Amy is the pink, female Minnie Mouse girlfriend version of that. Thus, Amy being the girlfriend figure for the guy whose too free-spirited to ever be in a relationship, automatically makes HER a counter-cultural symbol because she's like the living embodiment of what a lot of people would hate about "Waifu" characters but she turns everything about those tropes into sources of strength that are directly tied to the very core of her own character. It is impossible to remove Amy's love for Sonic from Amy herself because that IS the core of who she is, and it's what makes her strong, and it's what all her fans love about her even beyond anything to do with shipping itself. Those that don't understand this hate Amy with a passion because she embodies everything they deem problematic, yet here she is as a dearly beloved character and icon anyway.
>>586301821Our favorite smelly fox can’t catch a break.
>>586302538>pais SoA shill whore defending her boss
>>586302538Both of the accounts in this image are literal paid shills.
>>586302538I was about to say that bisexual leftoid Emzberry has suspiciously not spoken about the bio. I knew she would refuse to condemn Chris. Her and Sam Procrastinates. They're all just a bunch of shills and PR puppets used by Sega of America. I tried to tell so many people here that Emz is controlled opposition but they wouldn't believe me. You still want to doubt me?
>>586302538can you prove they are wrong?
>>586302938The Grant DM leaks.
>>586302667Woah woah woah WOAH! That is way too much nuance and insight for this fandom. I think you’d break Ian’s brain if he could read this.
>>586302971the leaks that says he is just the mediator and not the one responsible?
>>586302538>they just mirror JapanSoA has literally never done this. They actually often attempt to undermine or subvert Sonic Team / Japan initiatives by making their own knock off cheaper versions or just straight up ignoring them. Also the Amy changes literally originated on the new ENG site. This excuse makes no sense.
>>586300547Wait, maybe it DID happen, in that one AoStH episode. I don't know who "Comomatz" is, but it sounds like he may be the main villain https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/King_Kommamachs>>586302658I'm reading through the leaked documents for the canceled 1993 Tails game. The levels were going to be Egypt-Mayan inspired locations mixed with futuristic alien technology built by a long gone people called The Ancients
>>586302938Yes. What Chris wants is for us to not have any memory of what he did in the past. he doesn't want us to remember that he also erased Amy's love from a book bio months before the Sega of America and Sonic Channel bios
>>586302538Lmao
>>586303092No, the ones that say Sega of America is the one pushing the character changes.
>>586303239She looks kinda homely.
>>586303239she looks like Krack so what's wrong
>>586289609
>>586303136making shit up won't prove your point>>586303220Chris can't change the japanese bio, is a fact
>>586303220what fucking cowards. i felt my testosterone drop reading "trusted friend"
Reminder that the west NEVER liked Amy.
>>586302538https://youtu.be/j0dVVw__0KY?t=258
What if
>>586302538>they just mirror Japannot fucking true, for 4-5 months the bios weren't the same, that was the entire point of the discussion
>>586302903Niggas really talking about “controlled opposition” and it’s fucking Sonic lmao can we get a grip
>>586303507He can convince Takashi Iizuka to let Eitaro Toyoda change the bio given how Iizuka is a spineless yes man with low testosterone. Who do you think you're fooling?
>>586302850this is what all companies want
>>586302667Cool write up on Amy but, wouldn't the counter-culture of counter-culture just be tradition?
>>586303739Emzberry pretends to be a fan of the real Amy to give people the impression that Sega of America isn't guilty of erasing Amy's love for Sonic. She's part of the conspiracy. Open your eyes
>>586303739They are literally too far gone, and enjoy imagining fanfiction about some nebulous internal power struggle as if this franchise is that valuable to these people to bother with that shit.Imagine thinking that any of these people care about this shit as much as the schizos that try to spin everything they say as some nefarious gotcha.
>>586303992Going punk to go against the hippies isn’t traditional.
>>586302938Yes, the changes were made in English long before Japan and were teased by Ivo several years ago.
>>586302538
>>586303601Amy is honestly too Japanese for the West. The closest popular analog the West has is Lucy from the Peanuts comics.
It was extremely unprofessional of Grant to keep interacting with livid and biased fans. He's going to face consequences for this.
>>586303507>Chris can't change the japanese bio, is a factNot so sure. He has bragged about how knowing Japanese is one of the things that got him the job at the lore team.
>>586303601the west gets what they deserve
>all this whining over a shit character who was always shit who exists only to piss you off and waste company resources and deny artist intentyou shitsucking faggots get what you fucking deserve.
>No Bayo 2 in CrossworldsFuck Sega
>>586303507There was a point where the Japanese social media started posting their own English-language content on their accounts. That's how disconnected these marketing teams are.
>>586302497It's all gotten worse since then>>586302570The real Amy before SOA bastardized her: https://web.archive.org/web/20220522081512/http://sonic.sega.jp/SonicChannel/character/amy.html
>>586304151>advanced a bitlike a car going over a cliff because the fucking bridge isn't done
>SoA censorship stealing attention from best boy and his gameThis is sadDon't get me wrong you're right to be mad and focused on it, I am too, but it's still sad
>>586304320I'm tired of people pretending they like this megadyke outfit.
Dogfucking raging hours
>>586304532It’s literally still getting merch it’s so popular
>>586304209The best part is Schroeder is a bit of a tsundere about it and starts to lose his shit when Lucy stops giving him attention
>>586301162Please make a version of this pic that includes context so it's easily shareable for future reference
>>586304267He exposed a malicious conspiracy to tamper with the franchise by leaking all that info. He did a good thing. Cope
>>586304151who hired this dipshit? that's not the point of SA1 at all. is growing out of sonic supposed to be a good thing? is that what the audience is supposed to hear?
>>586304084But Sonic is punk while Amy's more of a hippie. Besides I don't think pushing a traditional structure like marriage onto some is "counter-culture", per se.
>LEVELS.DOCRound AllocationTreasure Tales: starring Miles ProwerLevel I- Underground Caves and Water CanalsBackgrounds: The walls are a mixture natural formations and roughly hewn stones. The architecture is very primative and unsophisticated. These are the earliest workings of the civilization. The religious reliefs carved throughout this area are very crude. There is a hint of black magic as the earlier people were quite superstitious. These levels are dimly illuminated. Parts of the levels had been mined for the minerals and other natural resources.Items:Enemies: The enemies on this level are mainly of the natural type.Level II- Lower RuinsBackgrounds: This is the first hint of sophisticated building works. This level exists at the ground level. Since this level was the easiest to reach it has been pilfered and desecrated by thieves and opportunists. Some of the rooms on the outer edges of the Temple are quite open and more like verandas then sealed rooms. From these rooms natural sunlight is the primary lighting source. But because of this openess to nature, these levels have been over run with plant life and the such. Vegetation has begun to reclaim these lower levels. Powerful roots have shifted blocks and up set the plane of the floor. Vines stretch across floors and ceilings. The canal system still flows through this level.Items:Enemies:Level III- Middle RuinsBackgrounds: This level has an abundance of traps and many deadly enemies. Those who made it past the Lower Ruins usually were not as lucky on this level. Those that died on the first level were lucky that they did not have to spend an eternity trapped in the Temple. This level contains traps that have already been sprung successfully and its evidence is apparent about the level. But there are plenty of traps yet unsprung. The are carvings of gods on the wall as well as masks.Items:Enemies:
>>586304308the artist intent was for amy to piss off dumbfucks
When did voicing your complain through official channels ever worked
>>586304916Level IV- TombBackgrounds: This place is a mixture of the ancients and a technology alien to this earthly world. The design of this level plays off on "The Chariots of the Gods" speculations. The architecture of this level incorporates the traditional style of the earlier levels with computer panels like those found in Star Trek: The Next Generation. Amongst this strange mixture of cultures are Tombs. This level is where the Ancients are buried. These Ancients may or may not have been of this Earth. There are Sarcophaguses imbedded in the wall. The traps and challenges on this level are far more sophisticated than the lower levels. The writing is remarkedly alien and different in nature to any of the previously viewed scripts. The illumination is provided by glowing panels that line the wall. Unique artifacts can be found on this level. The masks are unlike anything of this earth.Items:Enemies:Level V- The Temple Backgrounds: The highest level of the pyramid, it has been a millennia since anyone or anything has stepped foot on this level. This level has been untouched. It is filled with refined art and treasure. It is brightly lit by strange crystals that hum and glow in periodic fashion. Any hints of the alien architecture from the previous level are subtle. The style is distinctly Mayan, but with a mystical quality about it. Gold and rare jewels are integrated with the structure. This is where Comomatz and his soldiers reside. They will fiercely guard the Talisman. Items: Enemies:
>>586304079Yes. We're just going to pull the wool over our own eyes and ignore all the signs and evidence of SOA's meddling and corruption and we're just going to pretend like Chris is a saint who has never done anything wrong at anytime (sarcasm intended)
Happy halloween
>>586304747>>586304836crackshipcuck faggot
>>586305006
>>586304645Genuinely what does Sega gain out of Bayonetta anyway? Majority of the franchise isn’t something they can touch, the company behind it is dead, and every collab with it has been a disaster
Spooks
>>586305345
Here come the shills who always get dispatched when people here dig up with SoA and the Lore Team are doing.
snc (spooky and canon)
>>586305345>>586305548lol cute
>>586305281neither of these images are even suggesting romance
>>586302667Amy is basically the more spunky version of this:https://youtu.be/cyEFNQFWBtYSoA will never be anything cool yet cozy like that. I think the men and women of SoA just hate each other but are too sad and lonely to outright admit it.
>>586305292>>586305292it's safe wokeit's anti men but the lead is in a heterosexual relationship with a soi man child it's pro lebian and trans without actually committing to tose it's pro immgration and anti religion as well as anti white with how every single villain is a white chrstian male parody Bayonetta is ugly as fuck yet the game pretends she's actually attractiveit's exactly the safe type of game that normies love and the idiotic culture war people are fooled enough to think it's on their side, that''s why sega keeps it around however they can never use Bayo 2 and 3 because they bent over for Nintendo and took it raw giving them the exclusive rights to those designs so the only way people will ever see them. Sega has no pride as a company I pretict in 10 years they'll do what zack synder did to WB and sell off parts of themselves to nintendo or Capcom or even the saudis and Activation/EA and run off with millions of dollars and before you annoy me with "B-but Japan has laws!" laws mean nothing to the wealthy all they neec is a japanese proxy and there are plenty of them at sega AND nintendo eager to fuck everybody else over for $$$$ because that's all that fucking matters in this sad sick world how much $$$$ you get, have and how you use it to screw over people who have less $$$$ then you, it's like a cock and you need to show it or lose it
>>586287907Amy would be the type of girl to defend Shadow's game purely because she wants to fuck him.
>What if the bio change is part of brand synergy with the movie?Could be. Jeff Fowler isn't as smart as you think he is. He would've used the ugly Sonic model if it hasn't been for fan backlash and Marza Animation had to step in to force the artists to make Movie Amy's model more girly and cute. If Fowler, as the director, is this unwise when it comes to art and design, then what makes you think he would be smart enough to allow Movie Amy to be written like Marry Ann Summers from Gilligan's Island, as Pat Casey wanted? We can only hope and pray that Pat Casey and Tyson Hesse somehow convinced him to let Amy be written like that.
They're trying to make Sonic into a total loser by having Amy get over him and move on to Shadow. Especially when you see instances where they want Sonic to realize he fucked up with Amy which Ian tried to do with Frontiers from some hidden or deleted dialog, I believe. They don't want Sonic to be the cool. They want him to be his western depiction where everyone more or less just tolerates him because he's powerful and saves the world.
>>586306687I like the movies as their own thing but Jeff Fowler is insanely overpraised just for including certain things. People think he's some kind of Dark Age fan but he obviously isn't. His idea of a deep cut is having Iblis show up and sing songs.
>>586306857>>586307241case in point
>>586307174It's stupid millennial writing
>>586305718>>586305910>>586305967cucked faggot. your crackship is dead
>>586306687Why do fans think Fowler is some kind of hero of Sonic? Because he fixed the ugly design he pitched? It was definitely him because the movies are fucking obsessed with making everything about aliens and conspiracies.
>>586307543what...?
>>586307642Silver and Evan’s OCs are crackships.
>>586305292>Genuinely what does Sega gain out of Bayonetta anyway?is their token LGBT franchise. Shit is gay as fuck.
>>586307727They're gonna make one of them "canon" for Silver since they're gonna make Sonaze substitute Sonally.
>>586307642every crackship gets spammed here
>>586307718every sonic ship has sonic act like a dipshit
can duo shut his mouththis was a peaceful place before the third movie and that dc comic, he has to spam his hallucinations every thread since
STOP BLAMING ARCHIE FOR EVERYTHING
>>586308042false...
sonamy is ooc crackship made for self inserting yumes who fantasize about a knight in a shining armor (he will end up marrying a princess)
This is a bit of a work in progress, but it might be of use to someone. If you're interested in the changes to Sonic Channel and whatnot, here you go.https://rentry.org/sonicchannelchanges
>>586308119because sonic is vaguely less masculine than knuckles/blaze/shadow, he's stuck as the pursuer and the simp every time
>>586302667>and it's what makes her strong, and it's what all her fans love about her even beyond anything to do with shipping itselfExactly! You get it.
>>586308359pills
>>586308601it wasn't me who has been seething for *checks notes* I lost count,
>>586308098Retarded bestie. Duo understands that Surge is a more interesting love interest for Sonic because she isn't boring like Amy. Amy is a generic love story of one sided love. Surge has a real story arc and themes to make her and Sonic interesting. Enemies to lovers is kino
>>586308116grr archie is behind this post you ruined /sthg/ fuck you grrrrr
>>586308751I don't see Surge here. Or any Sonic character, actually.
>>586308405it's not really about the masculinity, Sonic's rivals are generally more aloof in romance than even Sonic... it makes more sense that his rivals would struggle more with approaching it than him...
>>586308938They have the same dynamic as Sonic and Surge
>>586308405not less masculine but less ''reserved''
>>586308940Struggling at it more than Sonic means the ship is dead since Sonic isn't going to start it unless he's OOC
>>586308387fuck off evan
So no one cares about Tails' leaked game...
>>586309050surge will get passed back and forth between shadow and knuckles while sonic moves on
>>586309050You can post Sonic and Surge then, right?
>>586308751so your plan is for surge to become boring? fucking dumbass
Ian "If Sally can't get Sonic dick then she gets raped" Flynn
>>586308387Thank you
>>586305006This. As far as I know, I’ve only seen it work with japs like the good smile company incident where they immediately walked back on changing the design of their nendo boxes
>>586308940so it's dead in the water because sonic isn't gonna approach it either. what the fuck are you talking about?
>>586308751Surge is too ugly, Tiara would’ve been better
>>586309182sure...>>586309645>what the fuck are you talking about?I think Sonknux is peak and I love them...
>>586309328overshadowed by knuckles, now amy
>>586308387Why has nobody mentioned the blaze thing before
Silvold
>>586303992Amy is already meant to be counter-culture by being bratty and tomboyish rather than a demure, passive girl. But she doubles down on stereotypically feminine things and emotional ideals but with a Sonic-like attitude behind it. And that contradiction breaks people's brains.
>>586309842Nobody cares about Blaze
I want to have sex with the Amy from There's Something About Amy.
>>586309960>two bad optionsShitnic's choice
>>586309328I care, I just don't have much to say about it.
>>586305006So many anons here, including I, have told Sega on their official feedback page about the trouble that SOA is causing yet Sonic Team has done nothing to fix it. Sonic Team doesn't care anymore. Not even Takashi Iizuka. What are these lazy and apathetic middle aged farts still doing over there at Sonic Team if they don't even care about the franchise anymore?
>>586303992Counter culture of counter culture to me sounds more like straight edge hardcore punks. Basically, they are punks who do not use drugs, alcohol, and no casual sex or something. They have x tattoos on the back of their hands.Amy does not come off as counter cultural in either way, unless Japan has different counter culture scenes than the West. And being a tomboy is not really counter cultural
>>586309842We mentioned it when it happened and then forgot>>586310439Alright!
>>586309902She should be canon along with Relic
Gold likes people who are confident and capable. Silver is... not that...
You know it's kind of insane how these motherfuckers have been playing the long game for a decade or more for no other reason than to essentially kill the franchise faster than it was already dying just to canonize their own headcanons.Like you'd think anyone of these full grown adults would at some point realize in the past 10 years that this is not only autistic as fuck but if enough people notice they're going to ruin their careers and reputation.
>>586310780dead character
>>586310819His bio says otherwise
>>586310780"See, Archie respects Amy's love for Sonic! She just wants him to be happy no matter what"It was always a dogwhistle for "Amy would totally be okay with it if Sonic had a girlfriend and be happy to just watch" Ian never liked Amy.
Lore Team got so butthurt at their shit being called OOC that they made Japan change the Sonic Channel bios to vindicate themselves.>Ha! It's in-character now because we changed it!
>>586311061That can always be fixed!
>>586311230I think it's funnier that we basically have 100% confirmation that these people are changing the canon for no other reason than to own people on Twitter. Imagine committing corporate sabotage on yourself to win internet arguments.
>>586311337kek
Boo!did I scare you??
>>586311337
Iizuka and the rest of the heads of Sonic Team were out drinking in public until one of them nearly passed out. You really think any of these people actually give a shit?
Why is someone just lying and saying Sally isn't a girlboss in the last thread. She's the very definition of a girlboss in every way.
>>586311507Sallyfags barely acknowledge her character beyond girlfriend and boss bitch
>>586311494Because they have no personality outside of the current popular opinion. Next question.
the bestie will spend the night with her meltyand I'll go to sleepand then I'll wake up. and do you know what I'm gonna see? that's right. more bestie melty
>>586311481You gotta work on your jumpscare. Watch this.BOO!
>>586311354krack won?
>>586311615because amyfags acknowledge amy as anything other than sonic's or shadow's girlfriend and uwu friendship
>>586311710In Sonic Chronicles, one of the Voxai mentions that he's seen members of his species use Chaos Emeralds before, and that he's never seen anyone else use them. It is strange since the Chaos Emeralds have not been in the twilight cage until the events of the game.
>>586311494Goomba
>>586311943Yes, actually.
>>586311782Curry collage.
>>586311861SOVL returned
>>586311943girlfriend friendly > girlfriend cunt
>Sucks your blood
>>586311507Define Girlboss.
>>586312210"Girlboss" is a neologism that denotes a woman "whose success is defined in opposition to the masculine business world in which she swims upstream".[1] They are described as confident and capable women who are successful in their career, or the one who pursues her own ambitions, instead of working for others or otherwise settling in life.[2][3] A similar and related term is "boss babe".[4]Popularised by Sophia Amoruso in her 2014 book Girlboss, the concept's ethos has been described as "convenient incrementalism"; the goal being not to dismantle the disproportionate power acquired by men under the coexistence of patriarchy and capitalism, but to take that power for women themselves.[5] This has led to sarcastic and pejorative undertones when using the term, denoting women who attempt to raise their professional lives by practicing the same abusive and materialistic practices found in patriarchal society.[6]
Gonna watch the Tails episode
>>586312163having read archie and watched satam, sally is not what you describe her. but i know it's useless to talk about it since you are a shipfag
Nobody would know this shit was happening at all if it weren't for Krack, this is her fault
>>586311981It's not strange, his species was taken to the Twilight Cage and trapped there by Argus like everyone else.
>>586312210A bootlicker authority figure, dressed up in feminist candy coating.
>>586311981I like the idea of other sets of Emeralds existing out in the universe
>>586311943Notice how I didn’t bring up Amy kek and yes, people also see Amy as girlfriend or self insert. Now that you bring her up though, the key difference is that Sally is written as a co protagonist with more lore to her but her fans don’t care beyond her being arm candy
>>586312548It's strange because the game was written in 2008 and as far as anyone knew then, the emeralds were from earth and aliens had to come to earth to seek them.
>>586312480People have been bitching about Amy becoming Sally or her Boom counterpart for years, I don’t know if the messages were her doing but people would’ve noticed the sonic channel stuff eventually and connect the dots
>>586312431sally existed to be a ball-and-chain that sonic didn't need and to be a source of relationship drama in the comics
Guys they just leaked some of the Eggstien files. Why does Sonic appear in the flight logs more than 14 times?
>>586309930lol its too complex for autistic people with no social skills
>>586309902>Silvoid
>>586312646amyfags like to seethe about her casually. see >>586312942also that's not their dynamic
>>586313026What is their dynamic? Doesn't eggman literally say that Sonic is a weapon for Sally to wield? Doesn't Mighty also say something similar. Sally's entire concept breaks Sonic's.
Happy Halloween I guess
why did they remove amy's love for sonic officially?
>>586310780
If Amy is counter culture, is Sally the establishment girl that will tell you what to do
>>586313219Happy Halloween!
>>586312338Episode of what?
>>586313313She’s a monarchist, yes.
>>586313162their dynamic is sally makes a suggestion and sonic can choose whether he likes it or not
>>586313219happy Halloween>>586313313well, she's a princess
Lanolin would be better off as a nurse-type characterShe'd still be helping people and could use her Wispon like a stethoscope> But she wants to be a frontliner that stops crises before they happen...So? She sucks at it
WolfAmy caused it, all of itKill every drawfag
>>586313026I don’t see what that has to do with what I posted earlier but all shiptards/waifufags spout the same trite and seethe about the other girl whatever chance they get, same shit everywhere
>>586313412That Ben Hurst quote isuseless after season 1 and you know it. It also doesn't apply to Archie at all.
Why do foids care about Amy's love? They don't self-insert as her and they're not romantic anyway. If anything they should be happy about the change since she stopped putting men at the center of her life.
>>586313412Archie made it a point that the freedom fighters and sonic are completely directionless if sally is gone and sonic falls into depression
>>586313371AoStH episode about a Tails adventure without Sonichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmMLv8C2tbwIn 1993 they were gonna make a whole game based off this episode >>586286669 >>586293020 >>586304916
>>586313219He should appear in Blaze's bio
>>586313432Maybe she could get better at it. I don't know if it's the writers vision or constraints the work with, but I wonder why characters don't really gain competence like it's an action series anime with arcs
>>586313554They likely do self insert since it’s so personal to them. I’ve seen a few happy with the change though one was a tranny. In any case if there’s something I can agree on with them it’s that she’s boring and pointless now lol
>>586313654Archiefags don't like Sonic, they like Sally and want to bend and break him to fit her.
>>586313504it's the intended dynamic. if you can call this useless then i can call amy's crush nonexistent >>586313654>Archie made it a point that the freedom fighters and sonic are completely directionless if sally is gonethis is inline>and sonic falls into depressionhonestly this sucks
>>586312310>the one who pursues her own ambitions, instead of working for others or otherwise settling in lifeHow is this not Amy?
>>586313554I just don't like characters changing for such transparently self-serving reasons
>>586313875Is this the original or were blazefags made enough to change it
>>586313807Blaze is the female self-insert character, that's why she's a blank slate and so boring to talk about. Amy was never meant for females to self-insert as.
Shhhhhh please, be kind to him.
>>586313765It actually ended immediately, but then they decided to drag it out for money
>satamfags claiming their romance shit is in-character nowJesus Christ. IQs have fallen.
>>586311782>>586311197>>586310780>>586313294>>586313473>>586313875OoooDuomelty
>>586313432>wants to be a frontliner that stops crises before they happenbut isn't that sorta at odds with each other? being a frontliner implies that you're already responding to a crisis, not preventing itin a way, wouldn't she essentially want to be a figure that deters wrong doing by her simply being there? like how people would generally avoid causing mischief if a cop is around?
>>586305006Back in the day, parents would write letters to companies complaining about stuff and they would listen.
another day another duo-bestie flinging
>>586314137>At least a quarter of people who graduate High school in the US are legitimately illiterate.
Holy shit you Amynegros are annoying as fuck.
>>586313695Ah cool, I’ll probably watch it later too
>>586313992https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LycDYNdRPUghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWgG1P50PXMthey had a fit over blaze being written correctly
Amyfags and Sallyfags are both guilty of trying to tie Sonic down in a way that breaks his character. I don't respect any of you waifutards.
>>586314310Who is this again? I forgot.
>>586314310Did she actually call herself that and how old was she when she posted that
Western localization fans in Sonic really ate good for a long time. They had two cartoons made very early on and Archie and sort of Fleetway.Kirby, Mega Man, Chrono Trigger, Metal Gear, Dragon Ball, all of these franchises got barely anything of serious quality. While Sonic had actual original stories that were competently made. Dragon Ball on the other hand has Dragon Ball Evolution only.
>>586313965Because Amy cares deeply for others and spreads her love to everyone around her in addition to pursuing her own goals, not in spite of.
>>586314245Your argument kind of exposes how her supposed character concept is flawed from the startDoesn't help that Ian, Evan, nor Adam for some reason can't seem to decide on who Lanolin *is*
>>586314470Sonic already has a life partner who doesn’t tie him down :)
>>586314473
>>586314310>I'm Amy>Shadow iconShadamy won.
When are you going to kill yourself krack?
>>586311981That isn't exactly what he said. He said he had never seen an outermind use a Great Emerald. You can assume any number of things about the emeralds in relation to the Twilight Cage.
Sallyfags hate Sonic
>>586314858Sega of america...
Remember when fan Tails' VA had a roleplay sex with Ryan Drummond
>>586314470Fuck you. I just want Amy to actually show up and be playable. If Sega could shit out a higher budget than two dollars and a cheeseburger for these games or projects, maybe she wouldn't have to asskiss Sonic like Tails, Knuckles and Shadow do
>>586314583it's something I've always kinda chew on when I think about her character, I understand the general idea but having a character address a meta concern seems to be a rather inadvisable angle to takeespecially when it comes off as short-sighted
>>586314523Dragon Ball had two internationally successful long-running anime adaptations.
>>586315138This had to happen for Amy to be a main character. She can't chase Sonic and make him flee if she's onscreen all the time. This is what you wanted.
>Fuck you. I just want Amy to-ACK!
>>586315093Canon
>>586314727who could've guessed that sonic staff would hate the overgrown narcissist manchild
>>586315138>I just want Amy to actually show up and be playableYou sound like someone that NEEDED Kairi to be playable to be relevant.
>>586315093We don’t talk about that. Sonic and Tails R is too important to me
>>586315261My speaking is unclear sometimes. I meant western adaptations.
>>586315093Ayy
>>586314727Not that I didn't expect every single one of these people to be politically captured, but holy fuck is she ever politically captured.
>>586315251>but having a character address a meta concernThat's literally Ian's entire legacyPeople often like to refer to the Pontaff Era as meta, but Ian has a fetish for dissecting the Sonic franchise itself rather than just general tropes like Pontac and Graff did
>>586315407>>586315490
>>586315095>>586315346Sonic and Blaze did nothing wrong.
>>586314656>-Fantastic Chemistry: Tails — A partner who understands your heart most perfectly.Canon and baramdorikino!
Penders is a Sonailsfag
Ian's first choice when told to make the archie version of a game character act more like their canon counterpart is to give him a concussion and have all of the characters cringe whenever he dos anything
>>586315314There WASN'T a problem with Amy being around, until that little shit Cream showed up and the writers weren't competent enough to write the both of them without one or the other getting botched
>>586315645>August 26: A mass shooting occurred at a Madden NFL video game tournament in Jacksonville, Florida.I'm gonna be real with you, I don't even remember this happening. But I would LOVE to know how homophobia factored into this.
>The Ancients were very clever peopleThey're actually mentioned in the episode too lol>>586315809He knows what's up then
>>586315764I'm a Blazefag and I find this ooc and cringe
>>586315819This was a mistake he made and he admitted it. He should admit mistakes more often.
Taking small Halloween-themed requestsPlease note: I may be a little drunk tonight
Delicious Amyfags tears
>>586316012Who you shippin' brother?
>>586315414The DOGSHIT WRITERS needed her to be playable for her to be relevant, which is the problem every sonic character went through
>>586315764I'm a Blazefag and i jerk my little dick to this
>>586316057(You) with me
>>586316000Amy and Sticks in sexy Halloween costumes
>>586316000Amy giving out Halloween treats with a smile, please. Enjoy your night.
>>586316000DRAW THIS ROTORRRRRR (wether design you like) WITH THIS COSTUMEEE
>>586316000Nice trips. Speaking of trips:>Trip in mummy wraps flirting with Fang
>>586316000Silver and Dapple in mummy costumes (yes Dapple is naked)
>>586316000Rouge in barely enough mummy tape
>>586315346You can eat your garbage and fuck off
>>586316000Amy in mum-- god damnit at least three people had the same idea.Amy in Sally's witch costume.
>>586315346>>586316463You can't fool me with those filenames!
I was just thinking that I didn't see anything that really felt OOC at all and then the Sonic Sez clip about Tails not knowing how to use computers started playing kekCute episode though, interesting to read how they were expanding those ideas for a solo Tails game
>>586316000Whisper seducing Silver with a bikini witch costume
I call bullshit
>>586315998It wasn't a mistake. He was upset because he had to get rid of one of his childhood characters to be brand accurate so he complied angrily just like he does now
>>586315095Interesting how neither of them are into her
>>586316586
bnuuy
>>586316000sonic fucking blaze at amy's birthday party from tmosth while amy is watching crying and silver is watching crying
>>586316305>precursor to the job application costume
>>586316000Drunk Honey flirting with Bark. Pick a random costume.
>>586316741Who harassed anyone? People just pointed out he lied.
>>586316707with her hair down
>>586316000Tikal with a candy on her mouth wanting to kiss Shadow
>blazecunts have to make up shit because the comics use her for fetish bait and the games stick her in a kart LOL
I wont goon to Sonic characters this month I'm still thinking about Zelda porn, because there are some hotties there
>>586316000>>586316789THIS. Also draw Ian Flynn dancing in the background
SoA is liar liar pants on fire
Poor drunk drawfag...
>>586314245I think the idea was that Lanolin is less about deterring mischief and more about investigate points of interest, reporting on and stopping Eggman's plans before they can get out of control. Though as another anon pointed out, this is kinda redundant since Sonic usually already does this sort of thing.The weird thing is that Lanolin seems to assume the Restoration has like a standing army that can march on Eggman bases.
>>586312992Fem silver would still have tsurime eyes
>>586316741>email the office shredderthat has never worked in any instance. the only thing these companies react to is bad PR
>>586316000Nine and Honey kissing.
>>586316000All the girls in mummy costumes fighting each other over who copy catted who.The boys watch at the back eating candy.
>>586316741>>586316893They're all fucking liars You think contacting them politely will make them change their minds after all the bullshit Sony's pulled in the past two months? They want us to shut up and ignore it like good little peasants
>>586316000Blaze eating candy with a fork
>>586317238True
>>586315703>>586316789least obvious falseflag award
>>586315764I'm a Blazefag and this makes me kek
>>586316000Pick a cat of your choice and have her dressed up like Ankha, please. then have her cowgirl a boy of your choice.
>>586317123if only there was some kind of concept from the actual games that could handle this military espionage bullshit
boy this shippin' shits serious
Shadow the Hedgehog already looks like a Halloween style freakshow
https://poal.me/32x7v9
>>586316734>filenameKind of; it's autistic but something about Sonic and co knowing how to actually fight instead of just mindlessly smashing things bothers me.
>>586317653where's the duocurry option
>>586317653You
>>586317123>investigate points of interest, reporting on and stopping Eggman's plans>this is kinda redundant since Sonic usually already does this sort of thingI see this as an active v passive thingSonic mostly stops Eggman as a result of him hearing about something he's doing while he's out seeing the sights, what Lanolin would be doing sounds like she's constantly tailing Eggman himself or something he's knowingly involved in>The weird thing is that Lanolin seems to assume the Restoration has like a standing armyisn't the Restoration supposedly running off the idea of Forces and the general army that game had?
https://x.com/Sh_MarSan/status/2116544453121073185Cute!>>586317653All the options listed there are good though. Where's the "the absolute obnoxious faggot who made this shit poll" option?
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>>586317653don't open it's Tempest porn
Catbox? More like fatbox
>>586287343Whoever wins, we all lose.
Why is the catbox always gayshit?
>>586317123This is why keeping around the Restoration and by extension the Neo Diamond Cutters (both of which are Freedom Fighters expies with the serial numbers filed off) is such a bland premise that's antithetical to Sonic.Thing is, both Tangle and Whisper (separately, not together, I want to assert) can work narratively/conceptually without a Diamond Cutter or restoration team. Lanolin can't because as a main character she was developed with the Restoration in mind And even then the writers fumbled the bag on her like with everything else.This is why I brought up the idea of her becoming a nurse. That and I want to see her in a nurse's outfit
>>586317919be the change you wish to see
>>586317653(you)
>>586317919/sthg/ is fundamentally gay
>>586317653>TailspedosBased for genuinely loving their favorite Sonic character>SonamybestiesBased for supporting Amy's characterization as a girl in love>Krack and their simpsBased for exposing the SOA corruption and pissing off Duo>Shitver and Pajeetze faggotsBased for wanting better for their favorite Sonic characters>YouCringe for thinking any of these people are worse than you
>>586317576Sonic has to be responsible for every dipshit oc that shows up
>>586315093I miss Unknown from Emi
>>586315857Leave Cream alone. Its not her fault she is ill conceived.
We talk about shitty character dynamics a lot but which character dynamics do you guys genuinely like? it can be friends, romantic, co workers, rivals, strangers who interacted in odd circumstances or even nemesis. just some dynamic you find value in no matter if it's positive or negative.
I challenge Krack to find one Halloween themed Shadouge pic
>>586313432>>586317936I couldn't even begin to imagine her bedside manner
>>586318497You mean between Sonic characters, or just in general?
>>586316000Amy and Cream being vampires and trick or treating
>>586318732This is a sonic board...
>>586318497>which character dynamics do you guys genuinely like?AoStH Sonic and Tails, Sonic Boom Sonic and Amy, Sonic Prime Sonic and Shadow, Sonic & Knuckles post Heroes, and Sonic and Eggman in every other medium except IDW.
I found a bottomless hole that doesn't end
Are you anons ready for Wimpnic?
>>586318503
>>586318824>"I made a flow chart depicting IQ of every single human race. Oh look, it's Africans."
>>586318951When people did this to Master Chief it caused permanent damage to the character just for a few uwu scenes
>>586318957Of course it's half-lidded
>>586317746>isn't the Restoration supposedly running off the idea of Forces and the general army that game had?Didn't the Resistance lose like 80% of its army during Operation Big Wave? Then you get things like Zeti Hunt showing how lacking the organizations armed forces is, it's kinda clear that the Restorations is more about rebuilding stuff and rescuing people rather than fighting wars. On the other hand the comic doesn't really go into detail about how the Restoration actually functions.>>586317936I feel Lanolin would still need the Restoration, or some kinda organization, if she became nurse.I can respect wanting to see Lanolin ina nurse outfit. I'm sure ABT will draw that someday when he's horny.
>>586318824Hi chrons
>>586319278Hard to find ones that aren't.
>>586319329shh
How would 06 be received if it was in 2020s
Evan Stanley cannot draw human women.
>>586319396I asked how you feel about Krack
Sonic’s wife
Shadussy octopussy
>>586318073>>586317972>>586317740>>586317715Hmmmmmm *votes Sonamybesties*
>>586319714Evil, absolutely terrifying. Going to kill me because of ships and send an army of evil to raid my home. I live every day in fear that one day, Shadow's lover will execute me. There is no escape. The small comfort is that my legs still work. I can still run.Is that the line did i do it right is that what i should say
>>586319318hmm, weird situation all around, and we're kinda at a point where it wouldn't do them any good to clarifymaybe it was one of those things they just expected readers to "get"
>>586319656Why do you even have this saved?
>>586319975I'm going to suck your cock
>>586320010There's something about a big guy in small lady's clothes
>>586320010haha i get it
>>586318542Lanolin would definitely be one of those nurses that abuse and bully their patients, lol.
>>586320010When will you draw something spicy again Dragofreidn
>>586319975Is this sarcasm
Gonna Shadria all over the place
>>586319250sega's behaviour is like a drug addict who found out his parents are showing up to his apartment on short notice
>>586319691Like Frontiers. There have been a lot of comparisons and similarities drawn between those two games
>>586320705>>586320705>>586320705
>>586320750Fucking nigger
>>586320010I think they are probably gonna be rebooting the Restoration so maybe its function in Sonic's World will be clarified.
>>586320750earlyfaggot
>>586319691Sonic 06 lowered the standards of the entire industry
>>586320750Oh damn *grabs popcorn* incoming shitver melty!
Sonic relationships like pic related
>>586320642Queer coded outifit
>>586315598This is the movie credits?
>>586320283>>586320340I like word play>>586320590I did something recently of Drago, though I realize now I forgot to add it to my catbox, I will correct thisbut I do want to practice more NSFW soon, I just get distracted easily>>586320832I'd like that, I think Lanolin can hold a place in the world and it's a shame that she's floundering at the moment
>>586317653OCfags?
>>586321341are based and handsome and crucial members of the fandom
>>586321243Ever considered giving him claws
>>586320787lol
What would people think about 06? gampelay or writing wise if it was in 2020s?
