Consoom Slop - EditionPrevious thread: >>586081134>Official site:warthunder.com/>Custom sights, skins, hangars, UI & sound mods, etc:live.warthunder.com/>Wiki with info on tech trees, weapon systems and game mechanics:wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page>Official War Thunder Discord:https://discord.gg/fYpbGv68dY>Old, better wiki (no longer updated but better layout):RIP SWEET PRINCE!>Tips for Air, Ground & Naval battles + optimal climbing for ARB.steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=742852313https://forum.warthunder.com/t/lets-talk-about-ground-map-strategy/115607https://forum.warthunder.com/t/how-to-play-enduring-confrontation-naval/237935https://statshark.net/fm>/// Top Tier jet gameplay FAQ ///>DO I HAVE TO WATCH ALL OF THEM?Yes.>BUT-Don't cry here then.>HOW DO I STOP DYING?https://youtu.be/DOGazUgUdsQhttps://youtu.be/xrNJZmA9aL8https://youtu.be/SUgf2kaQPdchttps://youtu.be/_gp77rkWXVshttps://youtu.be/NbKcAdLoWDk https://youtu.be/NYfNbDZw5J8>HOW DO I GET KILLS?https://youtu.be/Weghk_2DpfAhttps://youtu.be/_tQ6JzPWEFUhttps://youtu.be/85QqlxXMywUhttps://youtu.be/iaDMyKEW5Vc>HELP I TRIED ALL OF THE ABOVE AND IT DOESN'T WORKPost replay / clip with data with sensor view on to get feedback and tips.>BUT MUH ANONIMIT-Shut the fuck up and get good then.>Hi-tech "slavmonkey / chinkroach to white people" communicator (post any fanmail you get):translate.yandex.com/ocr>Dank Bantz (for help getting aforementioned fanmail)https://files.catbox.moe/iufhcc.txt>/// It’s fixed! №. 119 ///>Shadows look like shadows.>More pointless UI fixes.>Made the game easier to run on potato PCs.https://youtu.be/1acWg-c5Buo?si=ddrKwBCXKel5Jz1v&t=13 Reminder: It's 2% different from the previous top tier goy!Thread Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_podzD4cSA
I love NE
>>586228151Not gonna lie, I haven't been feeling these last few major updates desu.
>>586228139Nothing stopping you from using keyboard only.
>>586228229>Playing the BR where the mode is practically unplayable10.0 to 12.3 is the only semi-tolerable range
China is the future
>>586228229>be dumbass>look at queue>see it's literally 95% USA>join the USA horde to insure you have the absolute worst matchmaking experience>>586228341It's plenty playable. Much more playable than the ROLAND/ITO spam BR you advocate for.
>>586228336War Thunder is pretty universally agreed to have a shit control scheme that gets more and more bloated so I'm not sure what you're trying to defend here
>>586228456It literally has the undisputed best, most flexible controls in the industry, you have no idea how bad shit like DCS has it.
>>586228456Works on my machine.Also, I'm not trans, maybe it helps.
>>586228423>It's plenty playable*laser beam deletes u from 8km with SPAAG*Oopsie poopsie did you try and use a dumb bomb? uwu
>>586228543>*laser beam deletes u from 8km with SPAAG*So, Rolands and ITO's?
>>586228456This >>586228517 you fucking revisionist lying kike faggot.You don't even play the fucking game.Fucking shartyfags spamming this general man, I swear.
My very intuitive control scheme as I bind my entire keyboard for the privilege of topslop gameplay
>>586228667Skill issue, use modifier buttons.
>>586228667I have like 4 buttons bound for top tier.
>>586228613Guided weapons stand a way better chance against those two than early Harriers do against Shilkas
>>586228375glory to zhongquoren
>>586228667I use around 10 or so keybinds and my hands never lift from their position.Brown issue, kys shitter.
>>586228796I'm squinting at my screen aggressively at the premise you just suggested.
>>586228667I feel like a pilot when I press all the buttons at the start of a top slop match. very immersive
Funny how half this general turns into shills the minute people point out things could be betterI expect to see you all chimping out about the core gameplay soon
>>586229023The default controls are undoubtedly shit but the game gives you every tool to come up with and make a good control scheme. Other games in the genre don't even do that much. Pointing this fact out is not "shilling".
funny how this general is filled with passive aggressive crybabies pissing themselves over nothing
posted it again award
TRVKED it again award
>>586229147The game starts pretty quickly falling apart if you dare to do something whacky like two or three different AA missiles along with two or three different A2G ordinance that share the same slot
>>586229448Genuinely, what are you talking about? It works perfectly fine if you use the weapon selection system (as you well damn should) instead of archaic per-weapon type controls.
>>586229540>Genuinely, what are you talking about? It works perfectly fine if you use the weapon selection systemYes? And it feels like shit
>>586229597>it's shit because... um... it's just shit ok?
Trying to flick from a radar missile into a ground missile into an IR missile does feel like shit desu
>>586228667>Radar lock shortcut>Countermeasure dispencer>Menu bind for functions of the plane because having shortcuts for flaps/gear/whatever is too hard for babby>Mouse to direct, accelerate/decelerate, fire the selected weapon3 keys and a mouse is all you need if you wantto save the keyboard from overuse.
>>586229809
>>586229809>move mouse to weapon selector>click the desired missile
>>586230242>Do this under any kind of pressure>Die because you're fiddling with mouse clickswoah................................... genius.....................................
>>586229809>>586230323>publicly admitting you're a fumbling drooling troglodyteI will never understand this zoomie trend.
>People unironically manual clicking and the fucking functions menu as if they aren't even worse ways of doing thingskekaroo
KEKAPOOPOO
Yeah hang on lemme just click on my menu while I'm trying to maneuver
>tap "Select secondary weapon" a few times>???>profitwow... so hard...
>New thread>Immediate chimpoutStarting to think the anon calling this the shittiest planegame general last thread had a point
Almost like the immediate response to that post explained exactly what happens.
give the ZTZ100the best tank in the world
Escalation was a mistake and never should have been added
>>586231316t.ranny
Update so boring noone is talking about it lol.
>>586231368>More copy slop vehicles>Submarines that don't even fit the game mode they were designed for>A shitty half-baked BR mechanic for a handful of jets that'll just fuck the balance even harderShit update
>>586231471Yeah I just said that with less words retard.
>>586231316It could have been cool if they bothered to actually fix itbut they aren't
>>586231471>A shitty half-baked BR mechanic for a handful of jets that'll just fuck the balance even harderBut you see... Eurocucknadian is super happy about it because uh... he plays topslop like a retarded faggot and complains about getting topslop weapon systems.
Goals of the [WARTG] squadron:>1. Make sure [WARTG] continues a policy of tolerance towards trannies and other degenerates>2. Avoid getting [LowIQ] angry>3. Make sure [LowIQ] feels welcomed in /wtg/>4. Keep letting [LowIQ] players take prospective members from you...>198. growing [WARTG] into a bigger squadron
>still living rent free & causing seethe unpromptedgeg
America 6.7 is more handheld than Germany 6.7.If you disagree you're bad at the game btw
>>586230323>I am under pressure guize!So what would change with a different control scheme? Does the pressure magically disappear? Why don't you ask Elon to jam electrodes into your brain so that you can fly with just thoughts, as that seems to be what you're asking for here.
>>586228151>seethecord OP
>open devserver launcher>its the older launcherkinosovl
Would the bison with 4x R-77 be good at 13.3?The radar scan angles are pretty ass but at least it got HMD.
>>586236639It would be competing with the JF-17 which has 4x pl-12's + 2 IRCCM missiles + 2 extra pylons. 13.3 is basically a minimum BR for the missiles themselves regardless of how many on what airframe, it seems.
>>586236779Planes with 2 Fox 3s remained at 13.0, it's planes with 4 Fox 3s that got moved up to 13.3.
https://youtu.be/LBkyqmkhbjY?si=cKNeH6C-3fZfBurD&t=154Bro forgot to turn off his ESP
>>586237078what even is the point of ESP in air?
>>586237078I got recommended a video of him once, he was obnoxiously bad, always multi pathing and zero game sense.>>586237265Probably plays GRB mostly and forgot to take it off. It's very useful to have below top tier with the terrible spotting system and even at top tier your AESA radar can't cover every angle. 100% info at all time can't be beat.
>>586236639Honestly, it might just be better at 13.3. I used it to grind the Eurofighter about a year ago and it was really awkward. Down at 12.3, the FM comes into play much more often, and in that department, it's just as dead in the water there as it is at 13.3, on top of being completely outranged by everything even at lower BRs, from R-24Rs to AIM-7Ms, as well as only having two radar missiles. The combination of FM and low missile count of either type always made me uncomfortable engaging anything. With 4 R-77s it at least has a semblance of lethality and staying power.
>>586236868The M-346FA stayed at 13.0 but it's stuck with Derbys on a subsonic.
russian domestic variant gets no maws, export variant gets maws :|american domestic variant gets no maws, export variant gets maws >:O
>>586239106it's a pattern as old as timethe best american vehicles in the game are always the exports
howdy
>>586239106>russian domestic variant gets no maws, export variant gets maws :|More like>russian domestic variant gets no maws, export variant gets maws (still in the Russian tree)
>>586239804May we see where the Su-30MKM sits in the Russian tree?
>>586239804name 3 examples
>>586239106I remember the melty when the J-11A was added. Every slav demanding the Su-27SM was given MAWS or have it removed from the J-11A because it's a Russian plane o algo. Damn that was glorious.
>>586239856The Su-30MKM was not upgraded by Russia, makes no sense to include western upgrades for a Russian variant in the Russian tree.The MAWS is American on an American export jet upgraded and built by America for kikesThe MAWS on the MKM is South African
>>586239804>>586240091correctionThe jet was not built by America for Kikes, because it doesn't even exist yet.Also it was technically "upgraded", as in built by Russia, but all of those "export" parts were supplied by other nations to build the MKM
Speaking of Flankers why do the Chinese refuse to export theirs?
>>586240873If I had to guess, licensing terms with Sukhoi, that or they want to export "their" "domestic" planes like the J-10 and JF-17 for soft power projection or izzat or whatever.
>>586240873They saved Sukhoi from bankruptcy (and therefore disappearing) in the 90s so bankrupting it now would be counterproductive.
>>586240982Licensing is probably the thing they care the least about in this world>>586241323Why would you save your rival?
>>586241626Russians and the hobo around the corner will pull down their pants and dance for you if you throw them some pocket change. Bugmen shell out a couple millions and get lots of polical benefits in return
>>586242040>political benefitsSuch as?
field anthropology research: even AFTER the bomber update war thunder players still haven't learned that tailsitting 20mm tu-2s is a bad idea
>>586242631Fuck me if I know. Maybe if they want to build a refinery in the middle of Bumfucknowherinov all the bureaucracy disappears.
>>586243005it DID result in a fucking B-17 trying to tailsit my ass this match though, always a new twist on things
why the hell is tu-2 gear retraction so slowis that shit actually hand cranked? could they REALLY not build some fucking motors?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBUkaelRNa8God most of these are fucking obnoxious, I'm staying with IASM's SPO-15 on everything.
help
>>586244771Lose weight fatty
Question, I finally bought a good PC for gaming and reinstalled this game and all the settings and options went back to default, now everytime I press the right button to aim it snaps on the nearest target, should I keep or disable that option?
>>586246756Just use https://github.com/ShartygeeAnon/WarThunderControlSchemes
Netanyahu's final order: play Israel NOW
How come radars only work in ACM and ground search mode on the dev server?SRC, PD, TWS don't show any air contacts
>>586246976Secret Gadi Eisenkot tip:Magach 5 gets ERA and 105mm APFSDS at 8.0 - and is objectively better than the german M48 G A2 despite being a lower BR
>>586246756https://youtu.be/3azxIAWJdh0?t=177My other Panzer is a Tiger...
>>586247224nvm my dumb ass had IFF filtering set to friendlies
Do I like the new way of doing CCRP bombing or do I hate it?
What did (You) notice here?
>>586247667It's good but the old method of holding the button doesn't work anymore.
>>586247667It's an unnecessary additional step to a simple process that was only added because niggers were too lazy to research how CCRP works and complained when it did work without understanding what was actually happening. If you find yourself not needing CCRP, just remove the SPI, it's that easy, no need for an additional, mandatory bind.
>>586248607The bind for removing the SPI was mandatory, retard. New system is better because it removes bomb release permission - if you press the button to drop or jettison the bomb you obviously already want to permit it, and now you can drop a bom without removing the SPI and having to place it back later. Fuck you.
>>586249169>if you press the button to drop or jettison the bomb you obviously already want to permit it, and now you can drop a bom without removing the SPIThis is a separate issue, the code should never have been written in such a way that jettisoning obeys the same laws as dropping to begin with.
>>586247821Cheating faggot prefired and missed too
wat premium would you get to grind for maus from tec tree 2 and which route is bestetst
>>586246976I already do, 8.7-9.3 israel is peak. merkavas really needs to go back down to a br step though, no idea why tge mk1 is 9.7 whwn its worse than the xms and a fat nigger with no armor.
>>586246976she used to >>348097747
Why didn't the nigpen C with its UFO FM and infinite CMs go to 14.0 but the F-16CM that has neither did?
>>586254587And why are the F-16A ADFs without 9Ms now the same BR as F-16AMs with 9Ms?
Drops!
>>586228229>modern shitterDeserved
>>586254781because the best loadout is 6 AMRAAMS anyway
Happy HalloweenPlay the M103
New muzzle effects for SPHs like M109, AS90 etc. look pretty cool
I can't wait for NiG-25 to get nerfed a week before we get another undertiered event moon rocket with cross-map SARHs. What's fucking next, YF-12?
Why does the F-15IA get MAWS anyway, when according to all of Boeing's renders it wont even have the empty sensor fairings that the F-15EX has?Also why no Derby?
So you won't be able to change loadout anymore after landing if the BR is too highWould an F-14 loaded with pheonixs be at a different BR from one loaded with sparrows?
soviet angled pen moment
Anton eating good
>>586261515yeah
Anyone know what this recent chimpout in Poland was about? Should Poland be a standalone nation in WT like it is in WoT?
not War Thunder
>>586262134another episode of an almost 12-year feud for the constitution court between the two main parties, will be forgotten in about two weeks, we will probably see another in 2 months or so
blyat
It's so cool that you can be locked by theater SAMs immediately upon spawning and can't break it ever
>>586259293it's ass
>>586264754The game knows you're a tranny
they should have gone one step further with the BR decompression12.7 fox 1 carriers should not be facing 13.7 UFO flight models that carry 6 fox 3s12.3 is good now but the game is still completely fucked because they refuse to actually implement realistic BR changes watch them keep them at 13.7 even after the BR loadout changes
>>586265737Tranny mindset
i don't think notching is all that needed
>>586261515no kidding
holy shit the bush setups that pros use look so fucking disgusting, just huge bushes levitating/standing upright touching the tank on like 3 pixelsand I say that as a bushnig
>>586269146Loser casual tranny mindset
>>586246756Disable it. Bind the snap somewhere else
>Not only germany has already the best MBT in the game, but now the BESTEST MBT in the game will be added>Germgroids crying everywhere that it's not as overpowered as they wantWhy is it like this?
>>586270871>Tranny making shit upNo one's saying this btw
I've seen more complaints about having to share their toys than people whining about their toys not being good enough.
>>586271751Literally under every youtube, X, IG teaser and videos, you fucking ape
>>586272517>Only provides one AI created bit of """proof""" that this is LITERALLY happening EVERYWHEREok tranny
>>586272640Brandolini's law final boss
What got the trannycord so riled up?
>>586273225we have a trooncord? i thought it got killed off
>>586272753>Fagolini's axe wound
>im retarded look at meeee tranny tranny tranny
>>586274174>t.raging tranny
Learn to use filters.
>>586274789Filters for what? Your estrogen?
>>586274789Thanks for reminding meHalf of the thread disappeared
>they added the BTR-90>but not the LAV-25??????
T-90 side era nerf when?
What is the tranniest nationWhat is the most tranny coded planeWhat is the most tranny coded tank
>>586276148USAAny of the giganigga handheld onesidk T58 maybe
for what purpose was this shit bucket moved to 9.0?
>>586276848>/shartygee/ continually baffled by BR decompression
>>586275252Do you really want another shitbox with a shartmaster 25?
>>586276148JapanIRIAFKV-1E
>>586237265that was more xray than espspecifics aside having full knowledge of where the enemy team is before even turning your radar on or having to rely on the spotting system is always a good thing, more arb centric cheats can also just tell you if missiles are currently tracking you and display perfect notch angles
>>586276991but why wasn't the previous tank which is essentially the same thing moved up?
>>5862770946R uses the M48 turret instead of the M60 pike turret, meaning it's much, much worse against AP rounds
>>586277057>more arb centric cheats can also just tell you if missiles are currently tracking you and display perfect notch anglesnot a cheat btw, your rwr already does that for you
>>586276148rustranniessuck-15trannytranny-90male
>>586277094they have different turrets, the magach 6b uses the m60a1 turret and it significantly better in a downtier is my guess why
>>586277498i mean it will display a box on your screen like notching in nuclear option
>>586277835>tranny option
>>586277835
>>586277427>>586277792ah i see. never noticed with the ERA spam it has on it
Hello am new to air and wanted to know it anyone knows which FW 190's are worth flying? I heard some models were ruined a long time ago, so I'd rather skip them and spare myself the agony
>>586278331
geeeeeeeg
huge
>>586278331the A series had their WEP raped but they still are good planes overall
>fw190 klimb afterburnerwas he anton's cousin? why did the nerf the 190 over a literal "trust me bro" bug report by misha
>>586278331>>586278917all the 801 engine FW's had their WEP destroyed not just the A series
i'm playing the f4e on nuclear thunder, should i bring the agm-45-10 or the -9?
>>586278813giant
>>586276148Leopard 2PL >>354581407
>>586278331Doras
>>586278331A8 and F8 only because they get airspawns, don't make the mistake of crewing the rest
When did TOW-2B became unplayable shit?It used to be my go-to missile. Fun and decently effective. Now most hits literally do nothing.
>>586280814Around 2021 but it's been so long that I don't remember when exactly
>>586280814because a certain nation never developed top attack munitions
If I started the twitch needful now, is there any hope of still getting the tank and camo?
>>586281445zerooo
>>586279683can anyone reply?
>>586281824hmm, nyo
>>586281824nope
>>586281445you can still earn them during re-runs. so just set a reminder for when that happens
Was moscow designed in simcity? its a bunch of rings with roads sprawling out of them, every major road is a ring, even all the way out to rural towns there is a very big ring circling the city
>>586282032>you can still earn them during re-runsbro the game will be shut down by the time they get around to them again
Why is Swedish technology the best in the world?
>Swedish technology>look inside>80% of the plane is American or British
>>586280245>the inscriptionI smiled.
>>586283830Nonsense. Muttrash and bongshit are ass both in the game and real life meanwhile the Gripen is a technological miracle.
>>586283614I would have killed them both in a 1v2 using the ArieteNot even kidding
>>586283614>statshart already proven to be nothing but gas up for insecure retardsrefer to >>586278553
>>586284119you wouldn't have
>>586284119That plane is bullshit fuck you.
they never tell you but the Q5L is a great rank VIII grinder
Worth it desuhttps://store.gaijin.net/story.php?title=War-Thunder_Skilled-Pilot-Pack
>>586286517>the literal reddit pack
Meme arrow People paid money for this.
>>586286716I saw that shit on ytmnd
>>586283614>top 0.4% player makes noob mistakesyawncome back when you duel the a top 0.1% player
>>586285835I say i would have because i already do in custom battles (only guns)We can try it whenever you want>>586286058it really is
>>586286884post your ign and lets go thenuntil then shut the fuck up
>gigantic maneuverability buff for both R-73 and R-60>moderate drag buff but moderate thrust nerf for R-60
>actually shut the fuck up because he pussied out from the 1v1naaaaahhhh ahahahahahahahahaevery*clap*single*clap*time*clap*
>*clap*Go back
>vikhr_thrower appears on a corb video catching a sam to the faceKekpow
*clap*no*clap*lol
>>586287409Did they fix gate width IRCCM yet?
>>586287997link?
>>586287409R-60 already sucks so much.
So how do you actually play the F4S? I can only fire one AIM-7F and have to hold lock while the enemy fires 3 missiles at once? Should I be climb but avoid the early missile joust, or should I multipath?
Why did they decide to port enlisted instead of copying BF4? Enlisted sucks ass and is dead because it sucks ass (on top of the grind rework fiasco)
>>586287409>random low quality discord screenshot>not gzsabii dont belive you
>>586289328You can check the datamine, the numbers all match.
>>586287409>random low quality discord screenshot>not gzsabiI believe you.
>>586289328>>586289456Only VK leaks can be trusted now
>VGay fanfics
>>586289743YOU HATE VK LEAKS BECAUSE HE SPOOK THE TRUTH YOU BITCH
Daily superhornet downtier NE
>Spaded the F-15E>No longer have much desire to play itI wish NE was better desu
>>586290068>Nuclear Trannies think this is a good reward for the amount of time it took
>>586290345I'd rather get less rewards and actually have fun every match with dying being a minor inconvenience than get more rewards but rage every time I die to some bullshit unfair matchup where I'm outnumbered 1 to 12 because my entire team evaporated within 30 seconds.
>>586290120to make it better they should add proper datalink and AWACSand make naval usable in nuclear thunder, would be a good way to implement modern naval since the scale is massive, but that would need bigger servers
>>586290345>gayassic mode golems care more about muh numbers than about enjoying the game
>try to sneak around in a light tank>upon two kills the whole enemy team has jumped into spaa
>>586290068I can't find a match outside of toptier.
>>586290696Tranny mindset
So when's the update dropping?
>>586291170>if you prefer to have fun over stomaching abysmal dogshit you le trannybuckbroken by antroon
>>586290835Feels like it needs more than that. AA reworking, target variety, etc>SpoilerI've been of the opinion this game could do with a mode involving every aspect of the game for a while now. And with Infantry showing that 64 player servers are possible I think it's high time they start seriously considering it. But they don't really seem keen on making anything new for Ground in the near future.
>>586291212Dev server is running until at least the 7th November
They should make NE have mixed matchmaking so queuing for US doesn't take 40 minutes
>>586293278China is the abused stepchild that gets shunted onto both teams more often than not
>>586293278NE devs redescovering all the problems that EC devs have solved ages ago.
>>586293769The worst part is this was an issue that was apparent even during the first week of the event when everyone was queuing to play the F-14 and the F-4S. They had months to prevent this from happening and they did nothing.
>>586294163But don't worry, you'll get chopper slop soon!Ignore that when we ported NE AA to Heli EC it made the mode completely unusable because helis just couldn't keep up
>>586294349>ported NE AA to Heli ECAI behaviors are global across the game unless they're specifically overridden not to be.
>>586293512Chinese SEAD is unbelievably broken and can't be ignored because a single jet can wipe out half the enemy spaa in two runs so it makes sense to shoehorn China into both sides to balance things out
>>586294630Either way it's fucked that NE, Heli EC, and Naval EC have giga cracked AA and then AAB and ARB has the brain damaged oneCan't be that hard to find a middle ground to these Jesus Christ I hate these devs
>>586295317May we see this SEAD?
According to the technical moderator Gunjob:>Even if the KH-38MT wasn't progressed to production, it was at least planned to be IR.
>>586293512The only restriction for NE matchmaking is that one team has USA and the other has USSR, because they have the sides setup for each nations SPAA/SAMs and don't want to mix them or whatever. Everyone else gets shafted to both teams interchangeably or even in the same match.Unfortunately everyone plays USA so it may as well not even matter. And matchmaking is about to get much worse when they implement those loadout-based BR changes, because the only reason 8.7-10.0 even gets matches is because of people playing USSR's only good CAS option (J-22) which is being shunted 1.0-2.0 whole BR's higher apparently until it's facing things it's no longer even good against.
>>586295761"People" STILL seethe about this shit in the age of the GBU-53 and SPICE 250, which Russia has yet to get a counterpart to?
>>586295537https://wiki.warthunder.com/collections/weapon/ld_10https://wiki.warthunder.com/collections/weapon/cm_102https://wiki.warthunder.com/collections/weapon/kh_31p
>>586296239How every mundane.
>>586295537why do you keep asking for peoples sead?
>Nuclear Trannies still screeching about anti-airkek
>fly behind a mountain for 5 seconds>come out in an unrelated flight path>enemy missile was actually tracking me the entire timeFuck this faggot game.
>>586296848>Be exceptionally bad>Shart yourself
>>586296870Shut up anton
>>586296351They have the 1st, 2nd and 3rd best prh missiles in the game
>>586297263Looks like normal missiles everyone else gets, unless the LD-10 is too small to trigger interception, which then begs the question of why bother using or caring about also having the "2nd and 3rd best".
>>586296030>Russia has yet to get a counterpart to?Do they even have one that has been used operationally like the GBU-53 or the SPICE-250?
>anton's golem is still malding people are moving on from xer beloved gender-affirming queer-friendly 13 yo tdmsloproflolmaokekypowzageggityroo
>goes to war>it's tdmslop
Would /wtg/ be interested in helping with a community doc for ground battles guides?
>>586279683Neither. AGM-65B is the only viable option
>>586298474no one knows how to play lol
>roflolmaokekypowzageggityroo
>>586296239>>586297263And what prevents AA from shooting these from the sky like it does to every other missile?
>>586298474
>>586297738>best at close range>best at medium range>best at long range>>586299148Chinks can pop out of the treeline for a brief second and shotgun spaa with the lds before the ai can react
>>586299529So like every other ARM.
>>586299641You are free to launch a AGM-88 or Kh-31PD from 3km at a ITO and see if it pulls
>>586299380How the hell is NG508 worse at the game than LowIQ????
>>586300065>from 3km at a ITO
>>5863002022S6, Gepard or whatever you please
>>586300445There are many weapon systems you can launch at SPAA from 3km. Even if you just dummy fire one and strafe it.
>>586299380If it's GAB i'm probably one of the best players hereIf it's GRB, i don't touch the slop these animals i share this place with are gatekeept in because they like to feed anton's cas dreams
>>586298474What exactly would it involve?
>>586299380>creation date>lowiq being more og than the otherso, i am laffin
>>586300537We were talking about prhms, stick to them
>>586301126Your PRH's were rendered irrelevant by universal munition.
>>586300909It would probably be something that is aimed more towards intermediate players and newish players (or whatever assumed skill level applies to each, respectively). I'm looking more towards video guides, with useful videos only, supplemented with relevant clips to each larger point.Some kind of progression for said players:>how to understand a map's flow, how to find good positions in said map, learning how to read a frontline, ect>micro skills for winning duels or Xv1s; how to corner fight, how to manipulate an opponent, how to position yourself against them, ect>understanding your influence; what map control your team holds, where you can plug holes in a frontline, where the enemy can flank through dead space, how your decisions can affect the match as a whole, ect>winning at the margins with superior settings, better controls, use of binoculars, squad markers, smoke grenades, winning a team fight, pressuring players, ectAnd then more specific and targeted map guides, like with wait for me and ratlinemaybe vehicle specific guides, with knowing where enemies often like to shoot, exploiting that by batting shots out of the way with your barrel, or turning the hull at the very end of enemy reloads, ect
>>586301473>popping flares
>>586302517My IRCCM has ignored your flares.
>bmd and bmp3 didn't get their brs raised so they're free facto back at their old onesI kneel
>>586300768>here
>>586303293de facto*
>>586302515Video guides are quite a bit of work. Vast majority of info you'd need is already on youtube. But it is a pain in the ass to have to look up various videos instead of having everything in one neat playlist with uniform format videos. And then, of course, different creators have different formats and some are straight up shitters that should never make guides. Idea is good, but it would be a ton of work. I'm sure there are some neets here that have the time to work on something like that, but the time requirement will limit the input to very few people. Unless you are talking about everyone dumping all of the tips and info into one text document and have someone record some video clips to supplement the points
amazinglytheres not a single good one between all these
infagtry mode is horrifically awful>shooting anywhere kicks up a literal smoke grenade worth of dust - you can't see ANYTHING in front of you as soon as you start shooting>the ultra-heavy HMG weapons like PKM have BY FAR the lowest recoil since they changed recoil to be directly based on weapon weight>this makes HMGs the #1 meta for run-and gun sprinting around>the weapons actually designed for that (SMGs, ARs, etc) are now horrifically shit at run-n-gun and can only practically be used while stabilizedit's like an inversion of IRL
How are people playing infagtry mode?
>rank II-V, Air vehicles, Greecelow rank Israel Greece Indonesia Poland Czechoslovakia tree confirmed soon
>>586306704it's a test, if you applied in the past you get into all future ones. they have had one going since earlier todayit's like vietnam era guns i guess. m16s, AKMs, PKMs, M14s, etc.no vehicles at all.this is by far the worst test they've done. performance is still shit too. and i think they removed the sound of enemy footsteps entirely somehow
>>586306578>HMG weapons like PKMretardall the MGs have inertia which makes them trash for run and gunningif you actually played it you would know that
>>586306710>IndonesiaI meant Singapore
>>586307430every gun in the game has inertia, what the MGs have is zero recoil. it is LITERALLY zero even if you're standing, jumping, whatever. conversely, the SMGs and ARs fly everywhere from the very first shot and are totally uncontrollable. why talk when you're not even in the test?
How to grind all tanks in ussr rank 6 without using premium vehicles? (Have prem time)
>>586307585ive played every test and you are full of shit AND dont know what an HMG is AND think its ultra heavy lol. the hipfire/moving accuracy on the PKM is categorically worse than every SMG and AR, you are getting filtered by having to control your rounds instead of magdumping at range the lower visibility is a good mechanic so you are wrong about that too, go figure
Why is Russia so handheld?
>>586308291didn't bother to read your post, dumb nigger posting youtube videos from previous playteststhe fact that warthunder devs listen to sub 80 IQ brown retards like you means infagtry will 100% end up like Enlisted (ie. DOA)
>>586306338yee, just nose to the grinder with the sherman and get to 4.7/5.0 as fast as possible
>>586308376lol, lmao
>PLEASE chimp out
Wish I'd known how much of a turd Meteors are before I made them my first jets.
>>586308575b8 or severe mental retardation?
>>586306578The actual meta is sub guns. The Thompson does more damage than M16 but with lower recoil and double the mag size.It feels like Gaijin doesn‘t know if they‘re supposed to make an arcady Battlefield clone or a realistic shooter.
>>586308438concession accepted faggotthe PKM is famously lightweight for a GPMG btw you insipid cocksucker
PKM is inaccurate dogshit irl
cope
>>586309416Don‘t think machine guns are supposed to be accurate
>>586309521compared to other general purpose MGs, its still dogshit
>>586309005the thompson has terrible muzzle velocity and damage drop off, the 5.56 weapons dont and are therefore considerably better at range, which is basically every engagement that isnt in an objective building
>>586309684Play the objective, scrub
>>586309646Not really, it's widely considered one of the best machine guns for its role ever created. The only one that comes close in its role is the M240 and it's twice as heavy as the PKM.
>>586310393>>586309416>vikhr tranny doing his "Russian weapons are wunderwaffe, just wait until mig-29 is added, just wait until t-90 is added, no one will be able to leave spawn (like me)" routine againthe most retarded poster in the thread
>>586283614Both were bad.
>>586306710I feel like Pooland is inevitable simply judging from the sheer amount of red-white checkerboard decals I see on people. It could be 100% pack premiums and Poles would slurp that shit up.
what do the resident russians think of poland? pretend niggerit doesnt exist faggots are the same in every country
>>586309416yeah but it is cheap and much lighter compared to its counterparts, I would take the 1/3 lighter PKM over the M240B any day irl
T-90 hull with AK-630M1-2 rotary cannon + 9A4172 missiles when?
>>586312910>1/3 lighter PKMdid you confuse lbs and kg on the wikipedia page
>>586262134who would even play that? >>375241869
>get TKd>check profile>VEHICLE COLLECTOR: All of the A-10s
since it's WT's anniversary, is it possible to go into first person mode by clicking something specific in the hanger or whatever?
>>586314496that feature was announced someday and then quietly forgotten about
>>586306338Churchill 7 and Firefly.
>>586315724>at 5.0
>>586316965it and the kv1 both belong there at 5.0
>>586316965spawn churchil in downtiers/near the end of the match and it still performs fine 3bh, firefly and the avenger are a lil more useful in general tho
How do I stop sucking at air
>>586319608it's literally in the OP
>>586313016>AK-630M1-2 rotary cannonIt wouldn't fit (there 2 more meters of it you can't see below the ships deck) or have enough powerAlso it's not armored and the targetting/radar comes form elsewhere on a ship
>>586319608which battle rating? i will help you anon
>>586319608dont get into fair fights
>>58632063513.0. I'm just going to download and try one of those notching practice maps
>>586311460That would be you because you think anyone saying something positive about Russian gear is your faggot boyfriend. The SVD was ahead of its time too but hasn't enjoyed the staying power that the PKM has. Both are well regarded for a reason
>>586321070How the fuck do you make it to 13.0 and still suck at air
>>58632107013.0 is a tough battle rating because you will be outclassed by fox 3 slingersplay 13.7 as for notching - for long range notching make sure you line up your plane 90 degrees to the missile with help of your RWR which indicates it for youfor notching close range missiles, pull immediately into 90 degrees, then as the missile approaches you roll downwards while dumping chaff to mug off the IOG
>>586319608Play Mig-15Bis and after you get good at it play F-86-25 Sabre. Boom. Now you are better than 90% of opponents
fuck bros, I think I'm falling for herR-27ET is the most aesthetically pleasing missile in the game by far
Is there any physical way to beat an F-18 in a WVR dogfight with an F-14?
>>586325470dont turn with it?
>>586325470if he gets behind you, no
>>586321070The higher the battle rating, the game because more about positioning, knowing how to read battle and how to react and act. Not about individual skill.
>>586321070Nevermind this notching shit is easy
>>586312473https://wiki.warthunder.com/collections/operatorFunnily enough, Poland only has 3 vehicles in the game, even Malaysia has more. If Gaijin wants to add an independent Poland, they'd probably need to add a bunch of Polish vehicles to other trees and then transfer them over (like they did with Italy). They could add:>Krab self-propelled howitzer>Borsuk IFV>Ottokar Brzoza tank destroyer>SPZR Poprad SAM
>>586327146foota!
how do i deal with the chink Su-30MKK hordes?
>>586329581use mirage 2k
>>586329581Just breathe when they put it in
>>586327146Standalone Poland is delusional. Big issue is also that they have like three interwar reserve tanks and the entire rest of the tree is copy-paste with very minor exceptions until top-tier where it's three vehicles again. Their only actually unique vehicles were all pretty much one-off prototypes. Never stopped Gajin before, but still.I mean honestly, just give UK the 7TP (event 10TP?) and Krab, give Germans the Beutepanzer TKS-20, give Soviets the T-55AM Merida (since it's actually slightly different and they ought to have a non-pack one), give Italy the BMP-2000, give the turret swapped BMP-1s to Israel, USA and Sweden, put the Rosomak in Finnish subtree. For planes give Italy the P.24 in Romanian colours and give Iryda and Iskra to whoever still needs a shitty GRB groundpounder around 6.0-10.0.At that point you're left with armed Mi-2s (and armed "You wouldn't believe it's a Mi-2!") for helicopters. There really isn't anything to make a fucking tree out of here.Poland with like Czech(oslovak) vehicles could work but truth is it really ought to have been a Germshit/Rushit subtree, but neither of those need a subtree and Poles would sperg out like crazy, so maybe give them to fucking Israel or something.
>>586329718don't have itwhat about mig-35
>>586330234so little countermeasures for so many r77s
>>586329995>split a country between 7 other countries in the gameYou're inadvertently making the case for adding a standalone Polish tree. But I do agree that Poland would have a lot of copy & pasted vehicles and that's not desirable.
they have to do something about the t58, game is just resolved if one side has a blob of chinks charging with it or not
>>586331358Yeah, but that's, if we are very generous, fourteen planes, ground vehicles and helicopters between seven other countries. There's also a huge gaping hole in unique vehicles between 1.0 and late cold war. You can't make a tree out of that, but you could make a subtree.
>Get down tiered into a 13.7 match>ENTIRE enemy team is Su-30MKKswwyd?
I didn't get launch warning. I was only tracked.
big day for me
>>586280814Works on my machine.
>>586336983You could be based, but who exactly were you teamkilling?
>>586306858I actually feel the opposite. I mean, yeah, the gameplay is still shit (and honestly it's only getting worse with time) and I expect the only saving grace of the mode will be the ability to bring your own vehicles to shred infantry, but in terms of performance every other playtest was borderline unplayable with how shit it ran except this and the first one, so at least there's that.The older guns are cool though, but, if the current BRs are any indication, I suspect the tech trees will be fucking retarded.
>>586337889almost exclusively base bombing premium F-4 faggots + a handful of accidentals.
>>586337889All WARTransG, LowTest and Transgeshwader members.
>>586338102>not teamkilling IRIAFswhat a shameeven if their golden era is over, this is not about justice, this is punishment, iriaf niggers have sinned and i am the instrument of God's wrath
Hi. I'm new to War Thunder and this thread.Is this tank any good?
>>586338102It's understandable to hate people who skipped ahead to modern jets, but at the same time, Gaijin actively advertised their game as a modern-jet game (akin to Ace Combat) and encouraged people to buy overpowered premium jets. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
>>586338353HVAP ammo shatters too often, get the 75mm panzers, and avoid this thread for your own sake
can we stop posting softcore porn, im on my 4th fap session today
>>586338576are you talking about this?
>>586338554idc that they bought a premium, but its a fighter, if they wanted to base bomb they should've bought the tornado. These braindead retards steal all the bases for easy rp and sl instead of learning how to play their 60 dollar plane. They're also faster than most base bombing aircraft so spading tt strike planes is a pain in the ass.
>teams full of MKK niggers that just bought it and have no idea what they're doing>Anton keeps putting them on my team
>>586338739here, i highlighted the tanks you will enjoy the most, there are a bunch of short 75mm panzers that shoot HEAT with a 2 second reloadfeel free to ask about any vehicle i marked
>>586338554foota!
>>586339018ah thanks!
>enemy team all get out their Yak-9ks>swat them out of the sky with a fighter>enemy team in chamblesIdk why normies seethe so much about bombers and attackers. Just use a fighter niggas.
>>586327694Almost certainly a future RU sneedful, pretty much Alpha Jet with R-60s.>inb4 AIEEEEEEE KURWASee F-6C, HF-94 and IAR-93, the pattern is here.>>586328673India makes more believable mockups. The thing never flew and the whole program was a state funding fraud.
>stop playing War Thunder for 1 (one) year>find a wifeCan't believe that was all I had to do. And they haven't even added shit anyway. Is [WARTG] still around?
>>586306338>crusader aa mk 1>matilda>avenger>cromwell>whichever churchill has m62Get the fuck off my nation you incompetent baboon.
>>586232524absolute state, imagine not only sharing a tag with >>383833540 but also defending and endorsing her clique's behavior in the general
>>586338250>malding because he didn't put in the work and enjoyed the rewardsEat my dick from 70km away faggot lol.
>>586340178I stopped for two years and i got fucking nothing
>>586340178https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvGv0nXSt1MThat sounds like a skill issue. PhlyDaily got married while still being a major War Thunder YouTuber, pumping out a new video every few weeks.
>>586340610Malding was back when you were the only ARH slinger besides regular f14s, losing because you took away my team.Nowadays you are not meta and get raped by the few Su-30s with a brain, justice was served, but i do not care i want to make you suffer.Just imagine an iriaf player all giddy about a full downtier, until my F-15A ends his handcrushed ass
>>586341718>all that wall of seethekek called it right on the money
Is there no better T-80 than the BVM?
>>586341685Tranny
>>586342165Bro', you 6 packs of bushes ? Everything is better with bushes. Tanks, women, you name it.
>>586342430Nothing tranny about that pic of Prinz Eugen. Trannies really don't like being reminded that they can't have a woman's childbearing hips.
nta but youre a weird freak who gets off on posting softcore hentai on a videogame boardid be surprised if you had a single fulfilling offline relationship with anyone
>>586274789Works very well
What's the point in subtrees if they're just useless grind fodder? I'm sure Britain, Germany, and Sweden really needed multiple F/A-18 variants.
>>586344563minorniggers asked for it
>>586344563Some people only play one nation and they get variety that way.
it allows us to identify whether the hornet is bad or if its just americants that are retarded
>>586345431This but every single Amerishart vehicle in another tree.
>>586345431It's pretty bad
>>586346110>sweden mains are just as bad as USA mains
>>586346398>when you take away the handheld Grippens
>you will now be able to pinpoint where on the tank the Spike hitsI wonder if it'll satisfy the Spiketranny.
>>586340361>hit>hit>hit>CRIT
