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Homely Nagase edition

Thread theme: https://youtu.be/YCdDqvGR9cE
Previous Mission: >>586077225

>AC8 OUT NOW
https://s.team/a/2288340
https://youtu.be/F54vGYxj0ts
>404th squadron ID
70688023
Please don't join if you don't plan to stick around
>Online Progression Guide
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>Aircraft & Part Database (SP Spoilers)
https://ac8-database.pages.dev
>Aces at War 2029
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>AC7
https://s.team/a/502500
>Shootout Saturday is back! /aceg/ rooms are open every Sat at 1930 CET/1330 EST, with three rules:
Put /aceg/ in your tag before game for IFF purposes
No EML/QAAM/SASM
In Roca Roja, use ONLY air-to-ground special weapons in the tunnel
>Official /aceg/ AC7 MP guide
https://rentry.org/acegMPguide
>AC7 Resources
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>AC6 is playable on PC via recomp
https://youtu.be/vr9m2XHpWYY

>ACI is playable again!
http://youtu.be/Q9wDRE7PszU

>/aceg/ Emulation Guide
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>AC3 Translation Patches
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>/aceg/ livery and emblem pack
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>Encyclopedia Strangereal
http://www.encycstra.net
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>PA twitter
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>Kono's twitter
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>Misc Stuff
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>Project Wingman
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>SPECIAL MESSAGE TO /aceg/ FROM PIXY
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>/aceg/ Permalink
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>OP Template
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BECAUSE IT BEARS REPEATING:
>Skill and guts are required here
>Be a buddy, not a border
>All planes are beautiful dreams
>DELAY THE FINAL ATTACK

FAQ
>Has the Project Wingman update dropped yet?
Haha...
>Has a PS2 trilogy remake been announced yet?
No.
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Kate!
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back on the ACO grind
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repostan sffs bomblet heights since I just realized I posted them while we were on page 10
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>>586182738
nagase feet
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>Erm Kate my eyes are up here?
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>>586183005
how much is that in meters
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>>586183005
cum historia
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>>586170426
Rafale is good in warfare on maps with naval targets. LACM is very good for killing ships. Killing ships take a while in Su-34 so I don't mind if Rafale takes them out for me. They farm ships and then move to air. There's even air targets directly above the fleets so they can take on both at once. That's the best case for multirole on warfare.
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100% objectively correct tier list for warfare

God Tier: ADFX-02
Best in Slot: Su-34, EA-36, Typhoon, FA-36, Su-57
Bretty gud: EA-18G, F-15E, F-22, F-15C, Mig-31B
Niche use: F-2A, Mirage-2000, Su-47, Mig-21
Garbage: everything else
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>>586183129
I'll measure it with my mouth and report back
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>>586183257
100% objectively correct tier list for assault:

just play what you want and remember to have fun buddy :)
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Death to PS5 players
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https://poal.me/whlxnz
https://poal.me/whlxnz
https://poal.me/whlxnz
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>>586183804
It's not fuckin Savia!
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>halfway through the weekly requirements
>start singing https://youtu.be/hkPPsoA4MOI without thinking
This is the worst weekly requirements so far.
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>>586183257
?
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Just had an insane idea.
What if the weekly and daily challenges didn't award just pass XP but also things like Zoll, piss colored blueprints or blue coins?
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>>586183804
>emmerians
>competent
these dudes got north point'd even though their mobius one was fighting from day one
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>>586184810
Still wouldn't get people to play cause fucking hell the online is shit.
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>>586183804
I mean Antarctica has lost 0 wars
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>>586184870
they got hit by a surprise decapitation strike, pulled out with minimal casualties, reassessed, and proceeded to launch one of the most successful liberation campaigns in strangereal despite being woefully outnumbered
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>>586185379
>pulled out with minimal casualties
my brother under the golden king, the emmerian military was so broken they had like fifteen planes and five ships for the rest of the war. them rallying after that makes me hate talisman, like what the fuck were you doing for three months dude what do you mean you could've singlehandedly turned the tide at any point
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F-15 and Su-27 are busty blonde big sis types
F-16 is an energetic, hardworking brown-haired ponytail girl
F-2 looks just like her big sis F-16 but with a better figure
Rafale is a refined young lady from a prestigious family, with her signature ahoge
Typhoon is her cousin, but born to common folk
A-10 is a reliable, dark-skinned big-boobed big sis
F-22 is a fragile-looking slender silver-haired blue-eyed beauty
Harrier is petite but with killer athletic reflexes
F-35 is a tanned tomboy with refined abs and midriff
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*paws at you* nuke theve
*paws at you* nuke theve
*paws at you* nuke theve
*paws at you* nuke theve
*paws at you* nuke theve
*paws at you* nuke theve
*paws at you* nuke theve
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>>586185741
> was so broken they had like fifteen planes and five ships for the rest of the war
the navy and air force got basically one-shot by nimbus missiles, they were holding the stovies back until those and strigon made an appearance
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How do you beat Pixy on Ace without eating a missile to the face on phase 3?
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>>586187956
jink
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>>586187956
Shoot a missile to his face while avoiding taking one in return
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Why does it feel like I'm the only one ever using quick chat or saying GG at the end what's the matter with these players it's 2-3 dpad clicks
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>Some retard decides a Prowler with only LAGM is just what he wants to play today
>Get matched with him 5 fucking times today
kill me
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>>586188393
I only say GG when I win
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>>586188393
Because I am the badass silent ace that carries everyone
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>>586188923
> Get matched with him 5 fucking times today
Oh good.
For a second I thought you were talking about me, but I’m only on 3 games
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>5 warfare games with attacker and EW for the weekly challenge
was this designed to intentionally make the game mode worse?
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Haven't played PvP in a few days wow I forgot how egregious IEWS you get a stack using those and it's GG. Feels like the window for downtime is insanely low the cooldown is so fast.
PHP delaying the update must have really killed the desire for people to keep playing huh
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>>586189810
Attacker and EW are essential roles, why would this make the mode worse?
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There's nothing once you finish the battle pass? Just a gacha ticket for the dailies?
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>>586185742
>copy pasted Nip Twitter post
may as well just post the captioned image
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>>586189901
Also
>finish game
>immediately get the same people in the next one
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>>586189810
multiple attackers on the same team, unupgraded EA6 and EA18, matches with 4+ EA36s
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>>586185742
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>>586190423
Alternate modes, you get to alternate people too.
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>>586188393
I like doing <<See you again>> after every mission, win or not
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>Being the underdog is fine, but topping would be even better!
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What the fuck was Kitadani smoking when he made frostwave?
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>>586191547
i want whatever it was, because it's the best of the shadow's themes
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For me it’s Gaffed Card
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>>586190118
>two A-10s and a Prowler are your wingmen
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>get shit on every match of warfare i play, always in last place
>finally get a match where i shit on some f22 and su-57s with my f4
>instant ego explosion
I AM THE GREATEST PILOT IN THE HISTORY OF AERIAL WARFARE
now i'm wondering if the game just took pity on my shitass and matched me with a bunch of bots
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>>586184740
Not that guy but I would put Falcon in gud and Gripen in niche tier
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The money is fine but damn Scramble is boring. Dogfighting sucks online the netcode means shooting guns feels worse than in single player and a flare will trick your missiles for several seconds while teammates missiles are fine.

Here's your 10% chance of a golden ticket
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i haven't gotten a scramble or emergency scramble in three days
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>>586182738
>AC7's coop mod now allows up to 8 players
So... any chances of doing an /aceg/ coop run of 7?
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>>586193894
Is there any balance stuff for that mod yet? I played it one friend and it was piss easy even if he was a complete nugget
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>>586183765
>migger squad
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>>586194229
Looks like it's still not implemented, last time I checked the dev was adding extra enemies and drone spawns that scaled with player count.
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>>586194296
This thread relies on mercs like us.
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>>586194296
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>>586183765
>guys why is multiplayer dead
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>>586192690
I had the same feeling but with the F/A-18C. I 2v1'd a migger and a F-22 and felt like the king of the world afterwards.
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>>586196793
Why is the Stuka so evil?
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Is it possible to RIIIIISE ABOOOOVE and destroy every enemy plane on Thousand Points of Light until the Shadows just get turned into paste by 30+ friendly aircraft spamming missiles and gunfire at them?
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>>586196938
You take that back. Look how happy he is, he wouldn't hurt a fly.
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i like that there's an overlap between Ace Combat fans and Racing fans
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>>586197930
>pitbull_named_buttercup.jpg
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>>586198031
Great with kids.
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I'm playing through AC5 right now, am I supposed to be stacking my squad with the same jets so I unlock the next one in the chain fast? I've just been using individual jets for each member.
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>>586198591
yes
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>>586198591
They get barely any kills so it doesn't matter too much
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>>586183257
>Only planes I use are in garbage tier
Feels good to not be a metaslave
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>>586197650
correct me if i'm wrong but i'm pretty sure that when s22 shows up, the map gets reshuffled and your allies get their own isolated pockets with enemy npcs to dogfight, maybe you'd have to completely ignore the shadows and go help every friendly squad first
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>>586183765
This is the correct play against that team comp, I commend them all.
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>>586199017
That's the idea. I'm wondering if it's actually possible to pull off within the time limit.
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w2c Cope shades
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>>586184810
We don't do ideas here in ACO. Have you got some recycled garbage instead?
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>>586188393
>>586191473
I have the GO! sticker bound to my double left pad and I respond with that whenever someone says something.
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F-2 HVAA, Su-34 or F-15E HCAA, which way for dogfight missions on this attacker run
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AC8 soundtrack needed some brass and organ.
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>>586199137
i don't think i've ever seen anyone attempt this, but i myself did time out just fighting the shadows once in ace difficulty, so, trying to sweep the map for all other squads even in lower difficulties would probably be too on the clock
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>>586199668
HVAA is the better missle
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>>586199668
A-10 RKT
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thoughts on marcus?
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>>586193894
>>586194229
Depends are we going to be all flying shit like MiG-21's?
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>>586199668
HVAAs are better missiles, but the Su-34 is so insanely superior that it'll always be the better choice (especially as you level it up). The F-15E is still good to delete ships with SFFS, but the 34 is better overall. Instead of bringing HCAAs, party up and bring a buddy to cover you.
>>586199915
Who's that?
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>>586200072
>as you level it up
Read, metaslave
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>>586200072
>level it up
>party up and bring a body
Oh my man I'm gonna start prefixing all of my posts with <CAMPAIGN> or <ONLINE> this keeps happening Lol
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>>586200171
>thought it was about the weekly
Fug
I'd still say the Su-34, because it gets UGBLs, better performance overall, and HCAAs are still good to kill air targets.
>>586200297
Sorry, buddy, force of habit.
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>>586199915
Seems like an earnest and knowledgeable guy, is a bit silly to watch him tear up listening to music from the two videos of his I've seen.
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>>586187956
kill him in less that 3 seconds with the TLS
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I did it, /aceg/. I downed a Su-57 with an Intruder and caused him to alt-F4. Nothing else I accomplish in multiplayer will surpass this moment.
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>>586199915
I knew him since he was a nobody
He really loves AC and found success because of it, and throught that, he wants AC to succeed.
He basically spams AC music to almost every other co-worker, and he single-handedly made become at least other 4 "music-tubers" AC fags

He also went throught the butthurt to acquire previous hardwares to stream the PS2\X360 games
kinda based if you ask me.
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>>586201335
Was it an actual Intruder or a Prowler? There is a big difference here.
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>>586201335
Très bien faite mon ami!
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>>586201698
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>>586201575
Intruder. I needed attacker sorties. To be honest, he was nearly dead, and I third partied him with a point blank lock swap off of my bombs.
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>Tell me what makes a good pilot?
>Why the ability to shoot down three Sotoans a minute no matter the weather sir!
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>>586202037
Still impressive and I appreciate the honesty, good job buddy.
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>>586202037
Regardless of how it was managed it was a well deserved victory in the sea of misery that is AC8 MP.
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>>586183257
Just finished the game 15 minutes ago.
This seems very weird considering what I used to complete my 1st round of the game.
Went straight for Expert without going for easier difficulties:
Best in slot: Su-33, F-35C
Excellent: F/A-18E, Rafale M
Usable: Mig-31B
All other planes seemed like downplays of the above.
I assume playing a second loop with Ace difficulty would change the mechanics somewhat?
>>586183804
Savian mercs are cool, but it's not like they're a world power dude.
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>>586204092
Planes that are good in singleplayer are very different from those that are good in PvP multiplayer.
Their stats are different and abilities matter a lot.
Also the F-35 is just worse than the Rafale in singleplayer and Su-33 is just a mid plane. Su-57 is probably the best campaign plane.
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>>586201335
<<A true ace!>>
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>>586201335
RIGHTEOUS
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>>586204972
i skipped the F35 in SP completely because the super hornets were already pretty good multiroles, mission 28 was made for the F22, and then the FA36 is the obvious multirole to use after that
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>>586182738
I see some talk about people wanting Chinese planes in the game but why? They just look like knockoffs of American stuff
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>>586206894
because ace combat games have had basically the same roster of planes for over 20 years and at this point it's either add mystery meat chinese and korean planes or cold war american and european prototypes that werent even built irl
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>>586206789
Don't sleep on the cruise missile. This is beyond busted
>Can one to two shot ships
>Can one to two shot land ships
>Fucking ruins any clustered ground targets
>Rapes things like the Land Battleships and Triumphant
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>>586206894
Look man I understand that these planes were made by evil bugmen or whatever so we gotta talk smack about them, but planes like the J-10, J-20 and even their "sixth gens" are pretty different visually over the american stuff.
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>hey since we lost trying to destroy all your energy infrastructure, can you just let us retreat back to cascadia so we can fight you later at full strength? no we aren't doing prisoner exchange and no we aren't handing over our weapons and no we aren't handing back the super battleship we stole.
What answer did Woodward expect?
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>expert
Huh, I thought Zero went straight from hard to ace
Well I guess I can do a third run and go for soldier this time
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>>586207231
i was using LASMs for all the stuff the LACM does out of habits from AC6 so i didn't feel the need for another 'delete that boat' weapon
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J10 just looks like a typhoon, kind of ugly
J16 is just a flanker, but it does look cool
J20 is ugly
J35 is just an F35 copy
J36 could be an interesting high end bomber option
J50 is rather bland and way too prototype rn
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>>586207337
being allowed to engage after their withdrawal was denied was so satisfying
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sup aces anyone with mod power on sadpanda who doesn't mind helping out with some deexpunge petitions?
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>>586206789
I used the F-35 for the finale levels because I like it. It's great for A2G missions because LACMs fuck everything but it sucks for A2A as I learned fighting Topkek.
>>586207337
Cascadians are fucking retarded I guess. I get what Woodward was trying and that might have worked earlier in the war but by the time they were pushed out of Magadan the Feds had already decided that starting a second apocalypse was a good idea.
>>586207823
The J-10's like a cross between the Typhoon and the IAI Lavi. Also the J-16 did get a skin in AC a couple times, I think the SU-33 had it in 7.
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>Comfy Mig 31 warfare game
>Get ambushed and spawn camped at BOTH spawns by 2 Games, a Barricader and an F-22
>3 Teammates on the other side of the map fighting ground targets and aircraft
Yeah I think im done for the night, what causes this mental illness?
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>>586208030
LACM are kind of doodoo at Fatsia though.
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>>586208117
I'd have more sympathy if you weren't a migger
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>>586208132
I mean I liked using them for that mission, give them reload parts and you pop pillars easily. I think one destroys two pillars and you just need to save regular missiles for the last pillar and the whole thing drops. Plus you can hit the gass carriers to blow all five pillars at once
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>>586204972
>>586206789
Rafale M was my most used aircraft in the campaign by far. I used it for about 25-30% of the missions, and considering it's not available from the start I consider that's a lot.
The thing is, there was those really slick Lux Lunae units that I couldn't down with LLAM or the regular missiles. Su-33 had QAAM, that took care of those and it was surprisingl agile.
F-35 had the 8-way ground misile that took me through the Megafloat. Otherwise it was kinda mid.
Mission 15 was by far the hardest in the campaign, I needed F/A-18E and the 6-way AA for that. It took way too much tries.
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>>586208219
you say that like the Game doesn't style all over the Mig-31
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>>586207326
Both of those fighters just look like knockoffs of American planes I don't want them at all
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>>586207823
plenty of classic ace combat planes are ugly or bland as fuck
i get it, you have to hate china, that's ok, but there's literally no real reason for their planes not to be in ace combat
or i guess we can just have ace combat 12 with exactly the same roster as fucking ace combat 4 but wow su-57!!
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>>586199949
Idk we could put rules like MP but I don't think it would matter that much.
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>>586208562
>i guess we can just have ace combat 12 with exactly the same roster as fucking ace combat 4 but wow su-57!!
Correct.
Now fuck off Chang
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Why are Americans like this?
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>>586208562
the reason chinese planes aren't in ace combat is because PA couldn't get the license for them, that's all
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>>586208562
"No guys we really need the Chinese knockoff of the f35 it will change the game entirely"
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>>586208562
Your insistance is weird, I don't hate china, I literally mentioned that one of their planes could be a good addition but you chose to have a fit anyway. What's wrong with you?
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>>586208562
I would rather have more original planes than bootleg chinkshit nobody cares about
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>>586208951
Is that why the J-20 is a refurbished mig?
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The J-20's like the one plane that doesn't look like a knockoff. Of anything Western at least, it's like a slightly less retarded MiG-1.44.
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>>586208828
this, PA are neurotic about getting licensed planes and china/korea didn't like the idea of a japanese company getting enough access to make an authentic replica of a domestic jet
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>>586208951
Implessive.
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>>586209112
It's the retarded child of a f35 and mig 1.44
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>>586209114
You'd think with how important export of military hardware is for Worst Korea they'd set the autism aside to have free publicity in the funny plane game.
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Its so crazy that flankers are pure dogshit in AC Online.Balancing needs to include removing a body slot from the SU-57 and FA-36.
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>>586209114
It's typical for a Japanese country. They always are anal about trademarks and copyrights.
Like that one time Girls und Panzer bleeped out "Spam" despite it long since becoming a standard word for 'spam emails'.
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>>586209652
cope vodka drunkenski
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>>586209652
Su-33 is alright with QAAMs. It's just not Morgan or Barricader or Felon or Game or Growler or Fullback or Foxhound.
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>>586208272
Sure but SOD, SFFS, and UGBL do the job so much easier.
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Hey does anyone have the vector pattern for the Wings of Theves seen on the side of Rex's helmet? I need it to print out to make a decal irl. google not giving clear result.
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I feel like the FA-36 is kind of a sidegrade or barely an upgrade from the F-15C.
The F-15C is more maneuverable at low to equal on medium speeds and got better acceleration, the Game can PSM but needs to get slower and it's not that relevant of a thing for its playstyle. Both got the AA damage ability while the Game got the SASM area damage but loses range so it has to take riskier attempts while doing a headon. The F-15 also has a lower cst.
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>mission timer of 30 minutes
>actually you have around 10 minutes
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>>586212880
I think Game looks better
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>>586209652
>Its so crazy that flankers are pure dogshit in AC Online
Personally I think that it's pretty blatant that the Su-30 and Su-37 were planned in advance, that they wanted the flankers to be "different", and that they gave the future battlepass flankers the good loadouts.
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What parts are best for the Morgan?
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>>586212880
and then you woke up
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>>586192690
For me it's landing a perfect one-man pincer maneuver with SAAMs on the enemy ace that's harassing my team's ground pounder (disregard the fact I've only scored like 20k points and I get Bailout Master every round)
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>>586206789
>mission 28 was made for the F22
The F-22 is strictly worse than the Su-57 in this weirdass game unfortunately. Both in singleplayer and online.
>>586208378
> I needed F/A-18E and the 6-way AA for that. It took way too much tries.
I'm sorry to the bearer of bad news but you but you are bad at the game.
Don't worry though, it can be fixed with more practice.
>>586208030
>I used the F-35 for the finale levels because I like it. It's great for A2G missions because LACMs fuck everything
Unfortunately both the Rafale and the Felon also carry cruise missiles and are just overall better than the Lightning II. Because stealth means fuck all in this game.
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>>586192690
>Flying the Mig-21 in a match filled with EA's and F-22's.
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>>586182923
excellent post
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I got MVP on Chandelier with a fighter because I thought the 6 other attackers would make the raid a breeze so I could grind some easy levels on it.
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>>586214312
> I'm sorry to the bearer of bad news but you but you are bad at the game.
> Don't worry though, it can be fixed with more practice.
If I confess I've played every single modern Ace Combat game, is it going to get worse? It's been a long time now. Am I fucked?
My order was 5 -> Zero -> 6 -> X -> 4 -> 7 -> 3 -> 8.
I have not played the Assault Horizon games.
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>>586214960


>AH

I bought it on sale on steam and that shit crashes on mission 6 constantly.
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Did he not notice all the nuggets I slaughtered?
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>>586214732
Nuggets cannot into machineguns.
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>>586215502
can't fret every egg
one million lives ten million bed sheets or something
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>>586215502
sotoans aren't people
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>>586183765
Fuck you migger
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Never noticed this before, there's a rough runway at the back there. That's where Kate and Rex landed to drop off Cope's tags.
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>>586214960
Well, buddy, it's time to start over from the basics.
Try out Tie fighter total conversion, a modern graphical update of TIE Fighter(1994).

https://sites.google.com/view/tie-fighter-total-conversion?pli=1&authuser=0

Then afterwards you can check out Freespace 2 or if you really can't handle SPAAYCE try out Jande's Anvanced Tactical Fighters(1996).

These older games really do not hold your hand and you'll have to develop a certain level of tactical awareness and just general 3D space awareness that Ace Combat never really forces you to.
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He looks like a nasty eurotrash pervert
But I kinda like it
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How economically developed is the FCU?
I always assumed Europe tier, but Rio Bajo seems more South American level, and the OBC broadcast describes the FCU/Sotoa war as newly industrialised countries at war. Or is the lack of development/funding that lead to secessionist movements just that bad?
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>>586216401
The FCU is still recovering from the lighthouse war and the continental war
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>>586208524
What American plane is the J-10 ripping off? The J-20 doesn't impress me and I could see the case for calling it a freaky part F-22 clone, but there's nothing in the US inventory anything like the J-10.
(Though I'm more sad we didn't get the Korean F-50, even if it is basically just a cuter F-16.)
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>>586217046
haha he is kind of dumb
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>>586216374
Mi scusi
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>>586216401
Every single country in Usea (except maybe Erusia) is simultaneously first world and third world. First world in the FCU's capital is literally Toronto and they can afford a modern military, and third world in that certain areas are basically South America and also they're third world politically in that they're neither Osean aligned nor Yukie aligned.
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Is ACO that terrible?
I log in every (American) night to get my daily goldprints, and I usually see only 0-1 anons on
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>>586218149
>team deathmatch
>think I am going to have a chill match since its 2000 cst limit and I got a good plane
>3 Barricaders and one Morgan on the other team
No, its worse.
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>>586218149
It's pretty badly designed. There's not much content so before too long you've seen it all and the only reason to play more is grind. Except you pretty quickly hit the point where the only thing to grind for is gold blueprints. So your options are either play in the hope you get an emergency (completely random and therefore frustrating when they refuse to spawn) or to sit in party search trying to find someone hosting one (extremely fucking boring). And in either case once you've gotten two you've hit the daily cap so there's no point in playing more.
There's so much wrong.
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What kind of bird is Rex? Cope and Tewi are swallows judging from the ending cinematic, Topkek characterizes himself as a golden eagle and I remember him calling tasha a shrike at some point.
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>>586215502
Kill a dozen fighter pilot tranees now before they kill anyone in the future, odds are you saved at least one person for every nugget killed
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>>586218149
Unfortunately the squadron is very eurocentric.
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>>586218149
I wish I could savor the slop but alas, PA and/or Bamco won't let me due to my superior choice in operating system. :^(
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>>586217016
>J-10
The J-10 is a copy of the Israeli "Lavi"
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>>586218149
The anons didn't even let me into the sqadron. I've been playing in the squadron that some random jap invited me into.
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>>586219380
name 5 reasons why or you're retarded and probably indian
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>>586218149
Maxed Gripen (planefu).
Maxed Growler and Fullback to fill other roles as needed.
I guess I could level up a fighter but... Eh...
It doesn't help that I'm indecisive as fuck and can't decide which one to invest in
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>>586219380
How many Israeli Lavis did the US operate?
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>>586219509
You can blame that on the squadron leader being dead too
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they forgot something
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>>586218149
I'm a burger. I'm on occasionally, but I didn't join an anon faction.

>>586219649
Maxed out Berkut, Tomcat and Fullback. I'm working on the Fishbed right now and leveling that thing makes me want to shoot myself.
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I'm around 14 missions into AC7, is this the hardest AC game? maybe I gotta go back to the older games, but I just played through the series this year and they're all fresh in my head, 7's campaign feels the hardest so far (I am on hard on a majority of these games).
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>>586220247
I only had problems with Long Day until I learned to just fucking GO FAST.
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>>586220247
>high G turns
>flares
>missile limit
>tank multiple missiles even on Ace
I love modern AC but it will never be the hardest
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Crazy how this is the longest Ace Combat by a large margin, yet we only get one canyon run and it's dogshit, and the tunnel runs are pretty garbage too. Strange because every other part of AC8SP is top notch in my books.
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>>586220686
I guess because I'm specifically playing to s-rank. I shouldve been clear, otherwise I'd just be checkpointing and not gaf.
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>>586220712
Turntable was like, two tunnels!
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>>586220940
And they both sucked!
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>>586220712
Its clear they fully casualized the missions for 8. They took people getting filtered by weather/canyon runs/tunnel runs/non-annihilate missions from 7 pretty hard. Biggest complaint point for the campaign.
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>>586221135
And at the end of a long mission, perfect for a no-checkpoint run!
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>>586220712
Hottake: canyon runs are ALWAYS dogshit.
It's basically a tunnel run training mission, and little else. If you've mastered the tunnel run then canyons mean nothing to you.
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>>586216227
>airfields just naturally grow in grassy plains in strangereal
This explains a lot actually
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You did chase after Tewy through the buildings in Mission 29 right?
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I find it funny how Attackers appear in Scrambles, but EWs don't,
so I've managed to collect 0 (Zero) EW blueprints to soften the blow of upgrading one
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>>586221570
>It's basically a tunnel run training mission
Literally nothing wrong with this
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>>586222205
There isn't per se, but acting like we need more than one canyon run or that canyon runs will ever be anything more than "DON'T GO OVER THIS LINE, BECAUSE RADAR O ALGO" is absurd.
Far better to train newfags to the franchise with a baby mini-tunnel run than subjecting everyone to what is effectively a belabored escort mission, where the escort is your own dumb ass.
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>>586221570
Gotta ease the nuggets into it somehow.
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>>586220712
I'd put Battleship 3 on par with 7's Faceless Soldier as a solid low altitude canyon mission but I wish there was something narrower.
And yeah the lack of tunnels was disappointing. I was hoping for something as long as 5's complete with closing doors and random gantries.
But despite my disappointment the rest of the single player was absolutely amazing so I'm willing to overlook it
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what now? Zero?
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>>586222198
Neither of the Tomcats can spawn either. Not sure why they're not on the list. There might be some other planes too.
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>>586223808
7 would be a good next game so you get some context around the space elevator.
Holy trinity should be played in release order imo, unless you've already played 4 and 5
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are you guys using all of your XP and Zoll bonus vouchers as soon as you get them? I tried to save them just for scrambles and e-sorties to be optimal, but man the grind is rough for money right now to try to level a few planes. I know the bottleneck later on is gonna be the gold blueprints, but idk, if they don't announce a way to get e-sorties and scrambles more often in season 2, i'll just use them all up
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>>586223808
The online anon, join us, its gonna be FUN.
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>>586224085
I only use Zoll bonuses on scramble and e sortie. But I'm currently so Zoll rich I haven't even been bothering to go through thr pain in the ass extra menus so they're just stacking up.
Haven't used a single XP thing yet, I'll probably save them for Razgriz Tomcat or Yellow Terminator
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Thanks to the patch delay, I managed to get my pre-nerf Topkek S rank medal
Strangely unsatisfying though, I had a wingman with IEWS, then I cycled between the Game's HPAA > MSL > SASM to pace my missile spam, and all the Shadows were dead in 2 minutes
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>>586224128
I'm just joining Emergencies and dip nowadays
>>586223996
I'm done with everything except 6 bro, I could just convert my emulator Zero save too but that wouldn't be fun
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>>586224085
I didn't buy the battlepass so I've spent nearly all my playtime limited by gold blueprints. Zoll is never an issue, plane xp happens in the background while I slowly build up blueprints.
>>586224342
You get a guaranteed extra experience usb if you play a round with a level 20 plane, so it's worth it to use the xp contracts on scrambles/emergencies when you're taking a plane from 15 to 20. The faster you level the faster you start getting usbs.
Potentially wasteful if you haven't gotten raised the cap to 20 though.
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>>586224642
>already know you need to play 6
>ask us what's next
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When are they going to add the best Emblem?
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>>586224748
I just don't want to set up 6, that shit a headache
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>>586220712
There's tunnels and other shit to fly through all over the game though.
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>>586216352
Well I've kinda done that too.
I played X-Wing (1994) back in the day, but I considered it a kind of flawed game. We even did some custom missions with the mission editor but that game's mechanics were lacking. I particularly disliked the enemy update ticker that blocked updates beyond a set number of movables in the game. The actual campaign was finely tuned to never hit this of course.
I completed Tie Fighter (1995) and the first expansion (with the missile boat) but then it went nuts and I gave up.
Please don't try to downplay me. I love arcade flight sims. Even Wing Commander was okay until they decided they didn't understand their own franchise at all. I'm now at Ace Combat because at least Kazutoki Kono seems to understand his franchise, as opposed to Chris Roberts.
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>>586220712
I loved that shit, but consider real-life feedback from my friends (who are not exactly into Strangereal, but who were playing the game because I forcibly said I'll buy beer and here's a BD);
The canyon run, map 14 of AC7 made these people furious. And these are old people who have been playing video games since the 90's.
I just want to share my excitement regarding Ace Combat with others, but it seems hard. It's been years, I want to show this new game to my friends, but these guys will never clear mission 15 of AC8. I want to talk about Strangereal, but they will be hostile. What can I do?
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>Fishbed has sasm
>infinitely more annoying than QAAMS
>spend entire round putting fear of god into japanese players

i feel so sigma
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Guess I'll be back when they add something. Anything.
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>>586226517
Japanese can't into live service unless it's a gacha
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>>586226640
It's like they want it to fail. The shop hasn't had any updates, and that's usually the thing that gets updated most often. It's free money and they don't want it.
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>>586226927
What's sad is my wagie power level has greatly increased since the Infinity days, so I'm willing to whale, but there's fucking nothing to whale on
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>>586220712
>>586221228
I hope Ace Combat's inspire indie games that are "Ace Combat but actually challenging" as the series becomes increasingly casualized. I want a canyon run this intense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVywuYFWNJU
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>>586227156
uh bro you can buy a zombie outfit for the lobby
and a special animation for the lobby
and some outfits they ported from the campaign for the lobby
and some skins for [that plane you don't use]
and some stamps so instead of saying thanks you can say thanks but it looks different

it's pretty good man what are you talking about
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>>586220712
final mission is dogshit too

talking talking talking exposition as you just wait for missiles to show up out of the water and shoot them down. then a submarine fight that is way worse than the alicorn in ac7. i think they straight up ran out of time/budget, which also explains the common theory i see thrown around that we were supposed to have a lot more of a lifesim thing going on with the endurance. being able to walk around and talk to the crew
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>>586227750
...stop, don't tempt me, I don't want to buy the Nugget stamps when they're too tiny during gameplay to be satisfying anyway, p-please...
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>>586220712
Honestly i get making the mission structure a bit more lenient for casuals so we can keep getting more of these games, but you can fix this by just putting the tunnel run as the last mission of the game. New players will already be committed by then if they get hit with the 'filter challenge' as the literal final mission.
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>>586227779
I've seen some videos of other people playing it and it seems a lot more enjoyable if you're bad at the game. They actually struggle trying to defend instead of just sitting in one spot spawn camping missiles for what feels like forever.
Maybe I should try to forget how to play.
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>>586224085
Save them for emergencies and scrambles.
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Arsenal Bird Sortie really should be spamming Helios Missiles like the Alicorn constantly firing Railguns at you.
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I think we'll get more ace combat games due to 8 being so popular. not so sure about pw, jose pavli's doing other shit and the writer is too busy jacking himself off.
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>>586227779
It's going to be a 'liennytys' mission. and it works extremely well. There was an explosive mission before not once but twice!
(I'm looking for a translation for 'liennytys' and I can't find it please help, it's like makng something less exact and less aggressive)
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>>586227779
Makes you wonder why they didn't copy over the sub search mechanism from 7's DLC missions. Too distracting from the the dialogue?
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Looking at the future weeklies
https://ac8-database.pages.dev/online/challenges/#weekly

Play Co-Op Warfare a total of 20 time(s), and Play Co-Op Assault a total of 20 time(s)?
Screw that, ever since I learned party search is a thing, I only play scrambles and emergencies
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>>586230301
>Screw that, ever since I learned party search is a thing, I only play scrambles and emergencies

what do you mean about party search? and how do you only play scrambles/emergency sorties if they're random and only obtainable by playing the normal game modes?
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>>586230926
Players can host public parties for scrambles/emergency sorties instead of just matchmaking into random fill. 98% of the time you get a "NONE" result when you search for parties though.
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>>586230926
you can just keep refreshing the emergency sortie search until you find an open party, then you can play it without getting one yourself, do be quick to join though since that shit fills in within 5 seconds. You should always host when you get an Emergency yourself, you don't need to wait long and the people you get most of the time knows what they're doing, it's a win win for everyone.
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how can I play ACZ without black borders? How the fuck do I make it fullscreen?
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>>586231674
it's only like that on the menus, it goes fullscreen when in mission
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>>586220887
7 has some fuckass S-Ranks, many of them requiring a decently stringent completion time. For a first playthrough without all the planes/parts it's understandable that you're not S-Ranking everything.
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>>586226168
Which planes should I take up to Level 20? I bought all of them and the parts as well. I'm going to grind online this weekend, I want to fly something interesting.
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>>586212880
Don't let the turn rates fool you, the high G turns on the FA36 are way snappier. The database only shows turns without high g and I don't think there is a value for them anywhere
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>>586233901
Your favorite plane and then a top tier fighter or attacker
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What's the best aircraft against the Celaeno?
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>>586234391
anyone with SASM, just so you don't have to aim for the engines
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I think we're at the point where if they set the next game in Usea it will be immersion breaking if Rex/Wings of Theve aren't directly referenced
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>>586234740
Please let me leave this godforsaken land already, this place isn't even pretty
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>>586234864
take me back to Anea, I'm ready
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I just want to see Belka redeemed in one last fight against the megacorps, bros
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I just want to go to Wellow, that place sounds British
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Air Refueling looks oddly erotic
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How about a game that just takes place almost entirely in Verusa for once? AC8 already teased at a past Sotoan-Yuktobanian war with its own aces.
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>>586235371
gotta wait until the Ukraine stuff cools down then
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>>586233901
Pick whichever ones you like, Gold Blueprint scarcity is a real thing because you're capped to 5 a day so you're not going to max out the entire roster for a while. A level 20 attacker with UGB/UGBL/SFFS is highly recommended to help you carry nuggets through Emergency Sorties, although a level 20 multirole with UGBs can also carry if not as efficiently.
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>>586235594
>A level 20 attacker with UGB/UGBL/SFFS is highly recommended to help you carry nuggets through Emergency Sorties
Just tell him to get Su34 or Su25 or F15E, in that order, every other attacker is dogshit, A10 especially
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>>586235837
One day they'll add a map that's 100% ships and my F-2 will be the best. One day.
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>>586235905
I'll just use my Rafale then, fuck ship hunting, at least I can kill planes while my LACM reloads
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>>586233901
Strong arguments can be made for maxing out the F-4E and Su-25.
>Both are inexpensive, so it doesn't hurt your budget much.
>F4 gunpods are great vs arsenal bird
>Su-25 gunpods are great vs chandelier.
>su-25 SFFS are great vs Alicorn
The frogfoot airframe kind of sucks and the F-15E might be a stronger choice vs Alicorn, but the F4 and Su-25 combined are an inexpensive pair that always gives you the option to hard-carry super weapon fights.

If you like assault mode, I think that the Su-47 is pretty enjoyable as a multirole plane with UGB, +bomb radius parts, and SAAMs.
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>>586235367
I refer to drogue fuelling planes as males and boom fuelling planes as girls
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>>586235973
>Gaijin, we're sorry. The LAAM has the wrong turn rate. It never was supposed to turn twice as hard as the QAAM.
>we are placing the decimal point in the correct place and changing the LAAM's turn rate from 150 to 15
any day now.
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Do you spare Gemma? I'm doing my Ace difficulty run and I'm conflicted
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The points shop for this game fucking sucks
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>>586236710
I do my darndest to kill everything that isn't bolted down.
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>>586236806
Real. 7's emotes were fun.
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>na na na na nanana
>camera flying through the Endurance hangar
Tears of cinema were shed.
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>>586215502
Anon are you seriously considering the Sotoans as people? Have you not read the Word of Baxter?
>>586221905
She never flew through them for me even on Ace.
>>586229179
He did tease a new game a while back but I wouldn't expect anything this decade. Guy fumbled a lot of promises on PW.
>>586235179
Is this the Belkan loli plot suggestion?
>>586236710
The only good Sotoan is a dead Sotoan!
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>>586232347
I figured as much, I was gonna play more tonight bu got caught up watching anime so I'll probably play after I snooze, or maybe my adhd will act up and I'll do it once I watch more anime. I'll just take the L and get the ranks I get and redo some missions when I get beefier planes and upgrades.
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>>586182923
You mean wife?
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>blimey
Where is strangestralia?
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>>586242454
Erased
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>Let wingmen pick their own planes
>Tasha picks this
What do you do anons?
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I want to be nice to the people who hate score attack missions and help them enjoy the game more if possible, but there's no nice way to say "you don't understand the game mechanically if you can't imagine why someone would enjoy them"
like if someone's just playing for story i understand why they'd hate them, they're long and they rarely do anything to advance the story. but you can be here for the story and still understand they're basically a big sandbox playground for people who like the game mechanics and add a huge amount of replay value since you can use different planes, SP weapons, orders of blowing up each area, etc, even if none of that does it for you personally.
but explaining that without sounding like you're arrogantly going "i am better at the game than you and appreciate it on more levels" is hard.
but someone needs to stick up for them. one of the weakest parts of AC3 is that with no score system there's very little replay value mission-to-mission. it's all story.
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>>586182738
https://files.catbox.moe/eqscjq.mp4
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>>586242454
Blimey is a bong term, not strayan. The strayan equivalent would be strewth.
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>>586242454
Aurelia
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2000 CST TDM is fucking stupid

You get to run the top tier planes with one part and absolutely roll with ECM/IEWS
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>>586244147
In ACI increasing your plane's level increased its cost so you wouldn't be able to bring a level 20 plane to low cost.
That made too much sense for AC8 devs I guess. Along with a million other really obvious things.
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>>586229338
my best guesses: détente ("liennytys" is apparently used for the finnish wiki article on cold war detente, french "relaxation/release from tension"), though maybe denouement is more accurate for media. (more a winding down of conflict + resolution of the story).
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>>586231674
That's what V2 is for.
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>>586221570
I really like the canyon run in AHL, they're mostly kinda boring though yeah
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Tried Mission 28 on Ace difficulty again, could only get a B rank.
Also need to farm another 12,000,000 MRP for the achievements.

Man these are gonna suck.
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>>586222701
Battleship 3 is literally just Faceless Soldier Redux; Sorry It's Less Shit This Time. Even takes place in the same part of Strangereal in what I think is even the same map from 7
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>>586194229
I'm working on it, but I got a bit sidetracked.
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>>586246541
That looks fun. Where was that model pulled from?
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>>586242908
Score Attack rules but I wish there was either more random shit, more larger reinforcements once all the main targets are down or the opportunity to end the mission early once you hit the score minnimum
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>>586242908
i aint readin all that shit
dogfighting is real ace combat, take it or leave it
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>>586236710
Why would I spare anyone
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>>586246541
What Belkan witchcraft was used in the coding of this?
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>>586236710
No, I replayed the mission last night for my ACE S and had to kill them all because I literally ran out of ground targets with like five minutes left
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>>586247254
to hear unique dialogue mostly
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>>586246782
AC6, to be precise the AC6 Recomp.
>>586247643
a lot of Bamco games from the 360 era use the NDXR model format, so I cooked up a parser that exports it to glTF. It's a lot, the shittiest part was funnily enough not even the topology but getting the TNXR texture container untiled and swapped into DDS. Then use Blender to bake it into an FBX and create an AC7 compatible .pak with the model imported, textured and glued onto a blueprint.

Right now I'm trying to get the bones working correctly so I can actuate the control surfaces and open/close the missile hatches.
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>>586236710
no
total sotoan annihilation
relentless sotoan extermination
unconditional sotoan genocide
thorough, absolute, complete sotoan extinction
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>>586247813
Looks like we got ourselves a Sotoan sympathizer in our midst boys! You know what to do!
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>>586248030
No I just gave the excuse the sotoan spies among us spout about. TND, total nomad death.
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>>586236710
Yes
They're just nuggets and Sotoa did nothing wrong
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Is Toprak supposed to be a fraud of a wannabe rival after all? We only ever see him excelling against obviously weaker pilots, pilots in less advanced planes or pilots who dont fight back often from an ambush. Gets destroyed the moment he actually meets somebody who actually can match him and more too

Seems a bit poetic since I remember his callsign is Ares, the god of war who's also famous for getting injured once by a mortal and ran home crying to daddy who mainly called him a hypocrite
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heh
i play my card face down and end my turn
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>>586248638
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>>586248652
>Is Toprak supposed to be a fraud of a wannabe rival after all?
Yes
>Gets destroyed the moment he actually meets somebody who actually can match him and more too
I got the impression he would get destroyed by anyone in a fair fight cause throughout the game we never actually see him fight fair relying on greater numbers and ambushes on heavily weakened opponents.
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>>586248713
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>>586236710
If you ever find yourself feeling sympathy for Gemma, look downwards to the ruins of Expo city.
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I love you Super Hornet, thank you for carrying me on my first playthrough.
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>>586248652
>>586248914
I don't think he's meant to be bad. When you think about it most of the enemy aces look pretty shit. Mihaly spends most of his time bullying weak pilots in bad planes. Pasternak shows up and dies instantly. 8492 suck even worse than Pasternak, they ambush you and you still shoot them all down. Then Hamilton makes them look good by dying offscreen chasing you.
Pixy is good because he's on your side for a lot of the time so you can see him kill things. And Y13 has good buildup too. But the rest kinda suck.
Rena and Dision are hard to judge. Rena has her cheat plane so half the time she's invincible, and Dision doesn't really do anything until you fight him and obviously you win because you're you.
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>>586236449
>then they fuck it up again and accidentally change the turnrate to 1500.
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>>586249336
I mean i dont doubt he's genuinely good but its mainly that he's hyping himself up as way, way waaaay bigger than he truly is on top of acting like some hypocritical piece of shit bully. For the point about Mihaly, the difference is that you actually do fight Mihaly like three times in AC7 so at least it doesnt feel like its all bark even if he does have plot armor
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>>586248713
What sort of retard made this 8/8 cost 1 mana?
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>>586236449
The thing I don't understand is why it starts homing well so quickly now. I can get that maybe they thought it needed good homing to hit enemies at long range who might have turned (it's pretty obvious they don't play the game so they don't know how things actually work but they can think that at least). But why did they lower the bad homing period from 5.2 seconds in AC7 to 1.2 seconds? The long range air to air missile didn't need its close range performance buffed because that's not the point of the fucking missile. Did they fire the only guy on the team who knew what "long range" translates to in Japanese or something?
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>>586249832
Because, to be fair, 5.2 seconds was fucking bullshit and made for weird shit like not running the +speed part just so the missile would have enough time to get over its bad homing before it travels 10km.
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>>586249234
QAAM and SOD, the perfect combo
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>>586250267
My mistake was even bothering with getting E and F when E alone suffices...
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>>586250329
why do they even bother with F in this game when none of the SPW is usable? It's also completely inferior to E statwise, what a waste of plane slot.
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>>586249675
I actually find Mihaly worse. M7 basically ruins him. He shows up and kills Champ (wow great job dude) and then you beat him and he runs away, and that's it, he's done. He's worse than you. He's a loser from that point on.
Shadow 22 doesn't do much for most of the game but at least you don't slap his shit when he does show up. You don't get a scene before even the halfway point of the game where you confirm that yeah he's definitely worse than you.
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>>586247174
You can have dogfighting score attack missions. Comona was one.
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>>586250439
F would be the ultimate ship fucker with LASM and GPB for huge damage if there were any missions that had a lot of ships. But those are actually pretty rare in 8 despite the heavy naval theme. And then ships online get GPB resist for some reason so it doesn't work there either.
Maybe they should have changed the classes around or something. Made E a fighter and have F be the multirole. Or even made F attacker like the Strike Eagle. Something to make it feel more different. Online sort of tries that with the different abilities but not enough.
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>>586250463
That's basically the problem with AC villains. either they're paper tigers who fold when you actually fight them or they're shitters who have to rely on super jets and author fiat to actually challenge you. They might just need to do whatever the fuck they did with Torres or Mimic especially Mimic, the fact that there weren't more gimmick bosses with weird EW attacks was a mistake
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>>586251083
It's funny how AC8 online has shown that Torres is entirely carrying his mission. You play it in multiplayer without him ranting and it's just a submarine, not very fun. We've always said it's a good mission but it turns out it's not, it's him that's good.
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>>586251769
Well yeah, presentation is everything
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ACX doesn't really have a villain/rival (that you actually fight in a final showdown the story has built up to) and it's a great game
AC doesn't need that shit
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>>586242908
>you can play more suboptimally for replayability
Yeah nah they're boring, especially when they don't have a twist. Dogfighting is real Ace Combat, not spamming missles at stationary targets.
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>>586250463
22 also shows up and plot armors away though
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>>586252445
>>586250750
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So now that the shills are gone, can we all agree 7 completely rapes and shits on 8?
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Uuuuuhhh guys I'm locked out of Online and it's saying my account is restricted with a code of WP-202002004.
I checked online about this and the only reference I'm finding is that the multiplayer server itself may be down, but I'm worried that time I told a Turbo-Migger to KYS might have triggered something. Anyone else able to get on currently?
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>>586250750
Comona was tower defense
>but it has a score meter
Doesnt matter, medal requires tower defense
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>>586252960
No. In fact spank yourself for such a comment.
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>>586252187
it doesn't need. it, but counterpoint, I like the trope of a recurring rival pilot/squadron, but I don't mind them mixing it up from time to time. 8 was close to giving us rivals that were lovers, but that story went to Cope and it's more left to interpretation how deep their relationship with each other wasm Just admiration, something more?

regardless, I'm a sucker for all variants of rivals.
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>>586249784
PA balancing team.
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>Hortus Regis Alti includes the line "Fertile Cum"
>Literally nobody memes on this
Honestly unexpected.
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>>586253265
Too busy listening to Purple Magic to care about Sotoan fart noises.
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Looking back at the X-40 Nightmare fight, I kind of wonder and worry what if Tewy was using a YF-21 from Macross...though realistically she probably expires much faster
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>>586252998
The game told me I was restricted one time but restarting fixed it. I was WP-202001004 though so a slightly different code.
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Completely ran out of missiles and gun ammo in AC5 and had to watch my squad finish the mission. It's pretty satisfying when they actually hit their targets.
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>>586219725
I'm not dead, I've just been playing the SP lately.
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>>586254742
are there open slots in the squad?
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>>586254929
I usually clean up on Sundays but I'll do it today just because you're my very special boy.
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>>586255191
thank you buddy, I'll resend my join request right now :-DDD
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>coop warfare missions
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>>586253180
>8 was close to giving us rivals that were lovers, but that story went to Cope and it's more left to interpretation how deep their relationship with each other wasm Just admiration, something more?
The feeling I got from Cope was that he admired Tewy when he was younger and built up an ideal version of her but seeing her in the present made him realize she was always kind of a privileged spoiled LARPer and with her trying to nuke Theve as the last straw. He doesn't love her he used to love the idea of her
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>>586182738
While I'm on the topic, if you guys wish to join the 404th please let me know that you're from the thread in your player comment.
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>>586254451
Yeah no restarting's done nothing for me and it's been nearly an hour since I first checked. I think I'm in trouble.
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>>586252998
Same thing happened to me a couple of weeks ago, I did 2 things and I'm not sure which one worked:
>wait 30 minutes to see if the problem solves itself
>spam the online button until you get into a lobby and then get into a game as soon as possible
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>>586256613
Confess.
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>>586258069
I already did. I got pissed off at a turbo-migger after a terrible terrible warfare match and I sent a whisper to him telling him to KYS, in that exact wording.
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>2 emergency sorties from 2 dailies
Good life. I don't even know what to do with my gold tickets I've accumulated so far. Should I save them for a future plane or get the Game or the Barricader?

>Barricader
+ Currently op
+ Less likely to get replaced by another EW plane in upcoming passes/dlcs
- Ugly hunchback
- Might be lackluster when they hopefully nerf EW

>Game
+ Pretty
+ Best SASM platform
- Just another fighter at the end of the day
- May get obseleted by new plane releases
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Has anyone made Total Conversion Mods of any AC games?
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>beat the campaign, never played Ace Combat multiplayer before
>click on the online shit, make an avatar
>walk around the base really confused
>quit
What do I do? Are there /aceg/ lobbies?
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>>586259138
They pretty much die before they get released.
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>up stroke
>down stroke
>you're aiming
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>>586259028
Game seems like it'll be hard to obsolete without introducing new weapons. It has the weapon you want for close in fights and air damage and SASM explosions abilities (and missile upgrade which is also good). How could they even top that?
I guess if they did another plane that was a clone but got LAAM instead of HPAA/SOD so it could be the best at coop too, but that seems unlikely.
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>>586259507
I guess obselete isn't the right word, but I'd definitely use a -Trigger- version of an F22 or an F16 iver the Game if one ends up having a similar power level, which would then mean the Game would just collect dust in the garage.
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>>586259507
I guess they could introduce a multitarget opponent where shit like 468AAM/AGM would be more useful than single target missiles?
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>>586259416
Damn. Not even Japs? With shit like Raidersphere, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a very niche AC doujin scene.
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>>586257361
>spam the online button until you get into a lobby
Holy fuck I can't believe that actually worked. This game is ridiculous.
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I'm gonna miss the weeks long /aceg/ threads that allowed me to keep looking at the Halloween theme for a while longer
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This was the closest finish I've seen yet.
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If I buy Sk37 in AC0 early game I pretty much did not play the game, right?
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>>586252960
No, I can't agree because it's objectively not true.
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>>586261121
Don't let random people on the internet lecture your playstyle in a singleplayer game, buddy.
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>>586261121
no one cares
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Reminder that if you've beaten the game using the tools the game provides you, you've beaten that game.
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Crashed into a fucking Tu-95 trying to S rank Mission 28

AAAAAARRRRRGGGGHH
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Just S-ranked the first Land Battleship after getting shot down twice. Didn't know that was possible.
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https://x.com/omega11_fox2/status/2116506120491770299?a=68PR0dhJzFCBUSja19Y&s=19
I want thjs mod
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>>586259028
Every plane except the Morgan will be obsolete after enough battlepasses, anon.
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>>586264736
The Fullback might survive as well. I don't think they're likely to put in more attackers into the battlepas since they'll mostly focus on superplanes.
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what are the skins currently on sale in the store
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>Halloween themed plane skins
>Halloween themed mission
>Final boss tier halloween music
Your reaction?
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>>586265048
I wake up
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Mavisimen!
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>>586265516
I'm from Rio Baho, and I say rape em all!
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>Baho
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I'm from the Rio Baho oblast of the F of CU and I don't get why we have to make peace with Sotoans, we should keep killing them.
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when 5th gens come to war thunder you will play it ok
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>>586259505
She can't even feel anything down there
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>>586266198
>war thunder
Sorry I don't hate myself enough
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>>586266198
5th gen war thunder already exists
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>>586266198
>take off
>loiter
>wait for radar ping
><< Fox 3. >>
>get points
>repeat until out of missiles
Riveting 5th gen gameplay
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How long until we can level above 20, buddies?
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>>586267005
Never
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>>586267005
Meta aircraft are already nimble to the point of stupidity at level 20, what else are you gonna give them?
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>>586265516
All Gemma flight deserved to die far more slowly. Stick them in a Sotoan air fryer I say!
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>>586200171
Real and true
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>>586213310
Shut your whore mouth you ball gargler
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>>586269758
>square in the front
>round at the back
This just doesn't work visually. They need to give F15 2d thrust vectoring nozzles
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>>586225876
>And these are old people who have been playing video games since the 90's.
So they suck dick at video games?
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>>586270115
God bless Jap planetism. They take some fantastic photos.
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>>586267562
Infinity did it. Just make them obscenely expensive with diminishing returns.
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>>586270343
The Japanese have the best ground photos, the British have the best airborne ones.
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>>586266198
I have a friend who's been playing War Thunder for 13 years. He hates it.
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>>586225876
Get friends who aren't shitters at video games, avoid dads who only get 2 hours to play on weekends.
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Am I supposed to be going back and replaying campaign missions to get more MRP? I feel like my planes haven't been the "recommended" level since like mission 10.
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>Elder Hand
By what right does the equivalent of a beach episode have such a good song? It's quite literally a bunch of whos talking about fishing while you slaughter a navy.
Why does this go so hard?
I have no ear for motifs so help me out here. Why does it sound so familiar?
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I would have never guessed that ace combat would be a gateway game to vtubers
gosh darn
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>>586271238
You get a massive MRP bonus for the first time you beat each mission, so you shouldn't need to do any grinding on your first playthrough.
Just keep going down the aircraft tree and flying the planes you like. AC has never been difficult enough to demand players to play the most powerful meta planes in campaign
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>still shilling his vtuber slop
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>>586182923
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>>586271238
It's a few things:
1. Special Weapons matter more than your choice of plane.
2. What difficulty are you on? If it's below Elite, you don't need to worry about much, just follow #1.
3. Mission 16 - Singer is the best mission to farm in free mission mode. You can beat it in 2-3 minutes, and even below that if you get it down pat. It's especially good to farm it soon as you unlock it if it's your first playthrough.
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>>586271651
>>586271473
I'm on Elite, I've not had any trouble really it is just strange seeing the bars be in the red for as long as they have and I didn't know if I was doing something wrong.
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>>586271631
ai shit is so sovlless
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>>586248079
I felt bad about taking out Gemma
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>>586271918
The bars are only there to give you a rough idea of what kinds of enemies you'll get. If you haven't been having trouble, just keep doing what you're doing
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>>586271303
It's Anchorhead Raid.
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>>586271927
Have some more faggot
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>>586272198
Cringe. Even a thot does it better
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>>586272684
I swear each time Tasha is drawn she is getting depicted as younger each time.
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Someone post some Emergency Sorties I gotta get my 5 tickets
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>>586273039
based
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>>586272684
K A T E
A
T
E
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Reading through the lyrics of Everflow alongside looking at what happens in Mission 29 where its the only time it plays in full kind of blew my mind on how it fits the context like a glove...
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>>586272684
Coster is an Incel
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>>586272684
>Random dog.jpg and Mafty

What the
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>>586273326
Coster is just a sensitive young man.
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What's the best way to get the 25m MRP achievement?
Farm mission 27 or just replay the story?
I've got 13m MRP after three playthroughs
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>>586271323
The future is now old man
embrace it
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>>586273562
Just farm the medals.
6 playthrougs are enough. You'll be done with the cheevo when you finish all the campaign medals as well
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>>586273562
Unless you're some insatiable autist who NEEDS to 100% the game RIGHT NOW then just work on it over subsequent playthroughs. By the time you get all the medals you should've hit 25 mil anyway.
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>>586273326
He's just not sure if he takes his baby sister out trick or treating he will have time to make it to the Purple Magic concert in time.
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>>586273562
>I've got 13m MRP after three playthroughs
Play 3 more times then ez
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>>586266198
yeah bro can't wait to grind for three years
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>>586254508
>completely run out of bullets and missiles on desert lightning
>watch as wardog fails at killing mission update enemies for five minutes straight
I gave up forever on Ace Combat allies after that, rusegriz is a fucking scam it's just Blaze doing everything. Pixy and Shamrock are ok I guess, both got similar player/AI kill ratios during my playthroughs so even though Sham kills more he's still just a drop in the bucket. 7 and 8's AIs get a damage debuff with regular missiles for some fucking reason, the amount of times I've seen wingmen unload into a Mig-21 and somehow not kill it is stupid.
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>>586274961
Maybe I just lucky then. I set them on attack and special weapons and just kept flying just behind the targets and they went down relatively quickly.
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>>586266561
You don't play war thunder.
>try to stay outside of detection range with my f22./f35 and pressure enemies with fox 3s
>watch my teammates all just rush the bases on the deck with dumb bombs and then try to knife fight Gen 4s at ranges where their stealth doesn't work
>they'll cry Russian bias when their f35, fully laden down in BEAST MODE, doesn't out turn a mig29 in a knife fight
THIS is what gen5 warblunder will look like.
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>>586274961
the most reliable wingman in the series
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Why does every attacker but the Su-34 feel so gimped online?
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I only just made the connection that the FA-36, a plane not seen since AC3, makes its debut in Expo City, a location also not seen since AC3.
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>>586275545
>always happy to allied attack
>never complains
>always has words of praise/appreciatuon
>gibs esm
Marigold is pretty based.
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>>586275590
UGBL and fast speed make everything else useless (apart from gunpod Su-25 on chandelier)
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>>586275690
I think Expo City was in as well, but yeah, AC8 might as well have been an Electrosphere prequel. If we get to see Dision or Rena in a DLC mission, then that's pretty much that.
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>>586275545
always help him or Snake Pit first, best bros who help you dab on Strigon with ESM
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>Bravo 1 DAMN IT C'MON GUYS
why is he so mean
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It's assault why is the queue taking so looooong fuck
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the TASHAS in STRANGEREAL keep getting YOUNGER
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>>586276134
It's because JOHN(CPU) is a shitheel.
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>>586275974
An underlying theme uniting AC7 and AC8 is the impact of new technology (AI, drones, hackerman bullshit, enso order, etc. etc.) on war and society, if they're forming a trilogy with AC9 then I think AC9 will be the true AC3 prequel that straight up introduces characters who would be later seen in AC3.
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>>586275590
>LACMs and LASMs cuck slower attackers out of targets if they're not paying attention to who allies lock on to, and a lot of multiroles have access
>a-6/a-10/su-25 are slow as shit so 7 other players in assault eat most of the map first
>f-2 has the same upgrade costs as the su-34, which just has better numbers
>f-15e needs 60 fucking gold blueprints to max, and sffs is more situational than ugbl
>assault's mid-mission update usually punishes attackers, other SPWs will normally delete enemy planes faster than you can get 3 MSLs (or 2 MSLs + guns) on a target
>warfare only has space for one, MAYBE two (very situational, and pretty "unoptimal") attackers so only one a2g enjoyer gets to have groundpounding fun
>in most situations lack the kit necessary to fight back if attacked, if the enemy isn't fucking up the best one can hope for is dodging missiles while focusing on killing more ground targets
Attackers are that one essential party class that gets shit on by how the rest of the game was made.
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>>586277435
>-15e needs 60 fucking gold blueprints to max, and sffs is more situational than ugbl
Counterpoint: the Su-34 is an ugly duck bitch and the f-15e is sexy and thicc
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>>586276932
Online is dead or broken I had one game earlier I lagged out of now nothing this sucks
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>>586277272
I think the more interesting question (as the loop back around to AC3 has been obvious for well over a decade at this point) is what they are going to do when they get pas that point. You can only keep shortening the length of time between each game so much before it gets intolerable, but I also think they know the series going into Electrosphere mode forever would be a death sentence.
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>>586271918
It's because your allies haven't selected a plane while you see the bars. They fill up once you assign planes to allies.
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>>586276950
That's because she is a young girl.
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>>586277672
I liek ducks and UGBLs are much fun
I tihnk streagle is sexxy and I lieked using her HCAA spam in campaign
SFFS delets alicorn and chandylier really gud if uesd right
UGBs and UGBLs delet everyting else fster and wit lses effrot
tank yuo fro cumming two my ted tlak
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What's the best setup for lv 20 rafale? Parts and Abilities?
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>>586278725
rafale is best paired with an alsatian riesling or an oaked chardonnay
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rafale more like rafugly
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F-15C is fun with the sheer spam.
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Does this game not have servers in northern europe? I haven't had a single game where my connection is better than 2 bars. Is there a way to check your ping more accurately?
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>>586259505
Input read all you want bitch my shots are still hitting
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>>586278304
That's gotta be a typo. This would be a very different game if Tasha was 9 years old.
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>>586277951
NTA I highly doubt AC9 wouldn't be just a straight up Electrosphere game, 8 has already set up way too much. GR just acquired all of Enso's assets, Dision and Yoko will die in literally less than a month after 8's ending, and the X-40 Nightmare is confirmed to be a product of the Darkness of Enigma project which will produce the Night Raven. Neucom already been estalished in ACX. AC8's ending confirmed the Neo-United Nations (NUN) being a thing. And after General Resource cracks down on the DOE, the ousted project directors will join Neucom, and one of them will become Director-General of UPEO.

They couldn't possibly sneak in another main title without both being incredibly retarded AND doing some major retcons to protract the time gap. That or a prequel set in the far past like AC0, maybe one covering the Sotoan-Yuktobanian war that happened shortly after AC5?
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I do not care for AC3.
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*shoots ur parachute*
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>>586279560
I mean that's kinda my point, you either remake AC3 in name or not, then what? It's post Electrosphere forever? Anything post AC9 is either going to be prequels or the series is over.
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>>586279586
AC3's got cool vibes, but in some ways it feels like a sidegrade of 2 rather than an improvement.
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>>586279560
look, just explore the effects of this corporate bullshit on the other parts of the world, they say it's a global problem but everything just happens in Usea, at least let us see how it affects Osea, Yuke, the Aneans, south Oseans, AC game where you travel the entire globe when?
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>>586271303
Motherfucker you weren't kidding, too many great songs are slept on over Hortus
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>>586279401
0 bar connection, against miggers and EA-36s and geniuses like this on my team. Billions must die
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>>586279638
>He joined the Air Force on the condition that he could return home at retirement.
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>>586279996
>It's post Electrosphere forever? Anything post AC9 is either going to be prequels or the series is over.
Not really. GR and Neucom are fucked over pretty bad in every ending, especially UPEO. Retcon things so that corpo dominance is a Usea-specific problem and have an explanation for why ENSI/COFFIN designs are no longer prevalent post-2040 and you're basically back to status quo.
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>>586279638
I wonder what is the Lux Lunae's honest reaction if you """""accidentally""""" do the same to their allies?
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>Magnolia dies
Tewy when I fucking get you you're gonna wish Tasha's mom finished the job
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>>586280295
Nigger, all of Electrosphere is a 'simulation'. They could easily just dismiss all of it with that.
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>>586280691
I mean if you want to take the easy way out, sure
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>>586273205
If it keeps up we're going to end up with Tasha getting pushed around in a stroller.
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>>586280580
Mission 27 had several people on Fatsia begging for mercy with them being told it would fall on deaf ears.
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>>586280859
It's not only easy, but also recommended, majority of the overseas player don't evrn knoe AC3 official story anyway, retconning 1 or 2 things wouldn't hurt
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>>586280691
Hold up now. The events are a simulation, the people and entities involved aren't. GR and Neucom are obviously real. Simon and Yoko were Dr. Schroeder's apprentices, confirmed in 7. Erich Jager is confirmed to be Jaeger's son (AC7). Neural Link/ENSI tech (or a prototype of it) was used by Tewy in the X-40, which was explicitly state to be a Darkness of Enigma plane. NUN exists and Usea just got cleared out for a megacorp takeover. It's really pretty straightforward so far.

The chess pieces are all here, but the game's events most likely won't match the simulation. AC3 is a pre-Strangereal game, so integrating it into the main timeline will have to come with a few adjustments.
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>>586281239
Also we see an early version of the Swallow OS in 8
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>>586281091
Mission 27 more than anything else just drives in how fucking horrendous Sotoan high command is. We're honestly doing their country a favor by wiping these motherfuckers from the face of the Earth. We don't normally get to see the out of touch officers from the antagonist countries up close like this, hell Tewy might be the only high ranking officer among them with something approaching a soul and a conscience, and she's bonkers too.
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>>586281239
AC3 is pre-strangereal but the plot doesn't go anywhere outside usea so there's no continuity to break. AC8 establishes that it happens in this universe as described.
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>>586282164
>Tewy might be the only high ranking officer among them with something approaching a soul and a conscience
She barely has one by 28 she's the same as the old men you obliterate the mission prior
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>>586281195
>majority of the overseas player don't evrn knoe AC3 official story anyway
Majority of the overseas players only know 7 and 8, I don't really value the opinions of normalfags who get filtered by tunnel runs, score attack/annihilation missions, and crabs.
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>>586282406
That's why I said 'approaching'. Up until that point she's at the very least not frivolous with the lives of the Shadows or the rest of the air force. She always sends them to gang up on Wings or when the Sotoan forces need elite backup. Then Mission 28 happens, and she goes full LOGH and sends her pilots on a suicide mission where she herself only shows up for two seconds. They're all a fascinating bunch of bastards.
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>>586279586
not a single ps1 game (not just ace combat, its whole catalogue) has aged well
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>>586283040
This isn't even bait, you just threw a fishing pole into the water.
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Think it's pretty clear AC9 needs to come out in half the time AC8 took.
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>>586283336
I want AC9 to take TWICE the time, just to spite you
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>>586281239
Sure, but in the end it's still a simulation created by a single guy out of raw seethe towards another guy. It's not gonna be an accurate depiction of reality, if just because his biases are woven throughout the entire simulation.
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>>586283507
Why spite?
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If they don't want to touch Electrosphere proper they could do something with the actual corporate war that happened before the simulation, although I think that was a fairly short conflict.
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>>586283336
AC9 needs to come out next month
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>>586283842
Spite and losing are all Belkans know
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>playing warfare
>team already has two attackers
>one is in an a-10, other is an f-15e
>whatever, me and fourth person are in su-33s we can probably do okay
>somehow miss that the other su-33 brought rocket pods
>me and the attackers get dicked on all match by a prowler and f-14d who clearly know what they're doing and are objectively outskilling me
>get no help from the other flanker who's on the other side of the map racking up like 15k score total
stuff like this makes me think evil thoughts like instituting a role queue system for warfare, as retarded as it sounds
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>>586283651
have you considered that "it's just a simulation so we can pick and choose :D" is an extremely boring way to handle AC3 and PA likely knows this
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>>586284801
Not him, but it's fine if you have it be repeated simulations before implementing the most successful simulation into reality, so that you have the AI aspect but still also real world consequences. Plus you can get sick moments where the AI is all "I have predicted all of this." and then something crazy happens and it's like "I don't understand, my calculations were perfect!" sorta thing.
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>>586253057
he's talking about AC04 anon, Shattered Skies (the mission) has no defense segment.
you just have to kill bombers after you clear the score requirement
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>>586284801
a straight adaptation would also be a much shorter game than AC8 and the expectation is probably for the next one to be just as long
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>>586285343
I'm pretty sure AC3 is still the longest game in the series it you combine all the routes. But anyway, straight adaptation is pointless and AC9 will work well as a post-3 game where Nemo has already been released and (You) have to deal with it. As for what they'd do AFTER catching up with the Electrosphere, well, whatever they want, really.
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>>586285912
if PA weren't cowards, all of the routes would be canon simultaneously a la invisible war
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>>586284801
Imagine how much more fun if Simon got things wrong because his factions were too MODERATE.
>UPEO, on top of being half-puppeted by GR prior to 3, also can't afford a single COFFIN or ENSI plane
>NEUCOM is so deep into mad science that they CONSTANTLY have nanobot outbreak-level catastrophes, and to make up for perpetually hemorrhaging people they revived the dark knowledge of Belkan drone AI (hence why they have a single noteworthy human pilot)
>GR's media control is so complete that no one believes the war is ever going bad for them; they manage to recruit so many people and their long established manufacturing plants so massive that they meet or outpace Neucom's drone spam
>Ouroboros goes full AWWNB in terms of terrorism, the Sphyrna hijacking Neucom/GR's killsats to orbital strike anything like the Tonitrus Spears in 8
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>>586285912
Each route in 3 don't take more than an a hour and a half to complete
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>>586286814
That's like an hour shy of the length of AC7 tho. And there are how many routes again? Five?
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>>586280250
Jesus fuck, even in my worst games I'm not this much of a dragon my team.
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i remember beating X in something like 30 minutes with the Fenrir and the shortest route
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>>586286136
I think PA wants to make good video games and not abysmal dogshit. The 'all endings are canon, actually' shit never works unless the sequel is set so far ahead in the timeline that the original story is a legend.
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This seems powerful
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>>586288567
It is
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>>586182738
Redpill me on the gripen for online
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>>586290059
SASM best for dogfight
LAAM best for farming plens
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There's something really funny about auto setup always putting my squad into Morgans, it's like they don't know what to do with the special weapons and will just randomly vaporize a flight of mooks.
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>>586287781
I understand if someone is a complete nugget when it comes to pvp, but there are still bunch of AI targets to shoot at to get some points. These useless fags really sour my mood.
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>>586290218
don't have the morgan but the same thing happens with the X40 in my game
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>>586290059
SASMs are most consistent dogfighting SpW
LAAMs reach out and touch enemies from further than anything else
Gripen-chan is kawaii
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>>586290747
Yes, but...
>multirole stinky...
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These guys were kind weird
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>>586291554
their theme is really good, also funny dialogue depending on who you kill first.
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>>586291902
>SCREEEEEEAAAAAAAAMMMMMM
>[incoherent crying and sobbing]
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>>586284387
This is why I don't want to even care about warfare. It REEKS of mobashit and demanding that everything slot themselves into the meta roles and punishes everyone if anyone deviates.
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>>586292053
I don't remember which one of them it was but they start begging you to kill them which is pretty rad.
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>>586292506
its the woman, she's the more fucked in the head one
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>>586291062
You people keep overvaluing the importance of the fighter a2a damage modifier.
The attacker a2g modifier is important due to incredibly inflated health values on heavy targets like siege tanks, but there are no such tanky air enemies.
You don't MSL two-shot or LAAM one-shot stealth jets like the YF-23, but that barely matters when Warfare always eventually devolves into pvp, where the fighter damage advantage is much smaller.

Gripen a cute. Just fly what you like and it'll work
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>>586292053
>>586292506
>>586292580
Can you fix her anon?
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>>586292506
Rage is the relatively level-headed one who gets very angry when you kill his sister, Scream basically gives up when you kill her brother because he was the only thing keeping her somewhat sane.
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I'm going to play 5 games with EA-6B and 5 games with A-6E in warfare and you cannot stop me.
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>>586293242
Make that 50 with the A-6
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>>586292956
Not being able to one shot high value targets does legitimately hurt your points farming efficiency but the more important thing is that you're stuck with stinky multriole high-G turns. Fighters get much "snappier" high-Gs than multiroles do.
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>>586293029
anyone with a haircut like that is instantly on the no-go zone for me
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>>586293949
You know the sex would be just as crazy as she is though
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>>586284387
>multirole in warfare
(you) were already trolling
all of this was deserved
made me reply/10
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>>586291554
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>>586294714
fuck off
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>>586294714
fuck on
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>>586294696
The ADFX-02 is pretty strong in warfare thoughverbeit.
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>>586295747
The Morgan is a mislabeled ecm plane with an uncounterable point and click death laser.
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>>586291554
it would've been better if they were flying Morgans instead of Berkuts
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>>586294714
checks out
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>>586293040
Still the best enemy pilots in the series IMO, fun gimmick great boss theme and fantastic finale. I hope 9 just gives us a full on Cobra tier villain group
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>>586297282
For me it's still Schwarze spamming XLAAs to try and "third party" you in their Mig-31s.
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>>586292506
If you kill "Scream" first (the woman) the OST becames precise and calculated, and Rage (the man) becomes more difficult to fight. IIRC he gets upgraded to the the IA of Mihail

If you kill "Rage" (the man) the OST becomes distorted and erratic, and the girls has a total breakdown and she just flies in a straight line sobbing, launching sometimes one missile at a time to you.

It's a really cool dynamic fight. Too bad it gets overshadowed by the peak of the Alicorn overstory.
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>>586252960
lol lmao
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You can pilot snipe podarges? I knew about hitting the cargo racks but not that.
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>>586252960
Uh, nope? Like at all?
You can have this kind of opinion only if your first ace combat is 7 and you have nostalgia lenses over it
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>>586297959
>If you kill "Rage" (the man) the OST becomes distorted and erratic, and the girls has a total breakdown and she just flies in a straight line sobbing, launching sometimes one missile at a time to you.
That is pretty much how Tasha ends up fighting after Kate gets shot down.
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>>586298241
It is funny how Sotoan megaplanes just have regular IL-76 / C-5 Galaxy fuselages welded on to them to act as a cockpit
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>>586298241
Yes, it's a really nice option because none of their guns are pointing pointing forward and even without gunpods they die fast enough that their missiles are a non-factor. And gunnery is about killing the people onboard, after all.
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>>586298392
Well to be fair it's kinda like what Lockheed Martin was about to do
>CL-1201
>It had 22 pylons from which it could have launched 22 F-4 Phantom
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>>586298241
>>586298558
>You can guarantee the death of the Sotoan pilots
I love that this is a thing!
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finally got the S Rank on Mission 28
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>>586298392
When I see those cockpits I think of this.
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>>586272304
Have another faggot
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>try a multiplayer match
>error ST-3200003 every time
>google it
>it's because I'm on Linux
What the fug I just wanted to get blown out of the sky a bunch of times
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>>586299087
You're not missing much, buddy. These grapes are genuinely sour.
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>>586299087
Nice try, cheater
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>>586299087
we caught a cheat engine hacker here
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>>586298392
It looks extremely fucking stupid
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>M28 Ace
>Get C
>Equip 2 gun upgrades
>Get S
Wow was that really what people were complaining about? Why doesn't anyone mention you need the upgrades when telling people to use the guns?
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>started unlocking superplanes in the zero port
>tls is a instant kill laser once again
>burst missile is an atomic nuke

i miss this degree of power tripping
now we have the x40 """"""nightmare"""""
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Made the mistake of going to the AA towers in the northeast without GPB or standoff weapons got deleted in a second
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>>586299991
Just finished watching that anime right now. Liked it a lot, i'm gonna replay cyberpunk starting tomorrow
>>586300064
You can delete them with 4 missles by circling at 5000 from them and shooting missles, they won't hit you
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>>586299991
>atomic nuke
all nukes are atomic
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>>586224861
>click Releases on the right side
>download beta 2
>put AC6.iso in the folder
>run recomp.exe
it just werks
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>>586296371
ECM and multirole are interchangeable in all the difficulty calculations server side.
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>>586299991
At least we have an official playable ADFX-02 now, albeit as quasi DLC via the online mode.
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>favorite my attacker to lock first and complete the weeklies
>team still picks attackers anyway
>everybody gets bullied by sasms, qaams, hvaa, and ecm
>team get absolutely wiped and contribute nothing
Warfare's pretty funny once you stop caring about victory.
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Flying high, knowing it will surely help someone
Moving on, to survive the chaos in this world
I believe, a single light is seen from miles away
But my heart knows, somewhere is a free sky

Some people may speak down to you
Some people accuse you of being a liar
But if there is nothing we can believe
Could it be the wings to fly are my imagination?

So we will rise above
in a world where evil is replaced by love
and we won’t regret it
And even if we lose this fight
We will emerge into the light again
Rising up again

And when we rise above
no beginning and never ends
Infinite blue sky
From the dark into the light
Against the odds we’ll do what's right again
We have the wings to rise
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>>586300867
Multiroles take slightly less damage from NPCs for what it's worth.
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I'm playing AC Zero for the first time, what was the strategic benefit to nuking yourself seven times?
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>>586299582
We do every other time someone brings them up. You just got unlucky.
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>>586301049
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>>586301138
>irradiate borders
>enemies can't invade you through irradiated area
>show them you're crazy so they don't want to invade you
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>>586301138
Aura
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>>586301138
Strategic benefit?
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>playing ACZero
>Pixy has 26% of my kills
Goddamn, that's more kills than my entire AC5 squad in 18 less missions and probably more than everyone in 7 too if the game kept record, this guy is alright.
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>>586301138
muh belkan holocaust now we will invade all the nations and sabotage them from the inside
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>>586301138
Bluff and scare off everyone else from invading the rest of the country and total capitulation. It worked and they would have got back at Osea if it weren't for Cipher and then those wacky kids a decade later.
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>people think allies in 7 do anything
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>>586301363
bro is posting from Sapin
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>>586301138
>strategic
It was about sending a message. Not to the allies, but to the traitorous south "Belkans" who gave up.
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>>586301138
It was strategical as in "keep pushing and we'll fuck you up", it worked.
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>>586301363
For me they were total jobbers, I usually had it on disbursed or attack.
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>>586301556
They'll occasionally kill something, but their damage is tuned way down for some reason. You can see them set off a chain reaction if you go slow enough st the start of Pipeline destruction thanks to oil tanks being fragile, but a lot of the time you'll see them hit helicopters with missiles that do apparently nothing. Jokers in 8 have a similar problem with regular missiles, you can watch enemy planes tank 3+ allied missiles and not even trail smoke.
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>>586301975
Well did you let them use special weapons?
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>>586301363
I don't think allies in 7 ever kill anything at all.
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>>586301010
I just ground pound and spike myself like a lawn dart is any faggot tries to kill me.
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>>586302269
Yea, is there a reason not to have it on?
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>>586302357
I don't know, i'm playing Zero for the first time
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>>586301363
>>586301975
Hot take: Knight is the best playthrough. Not because you get to be the good guy, but because it fits Pixy's narrative much better and you do appear to be an earlier stage of his cycle from hero to villain. The monologues from him hit a lot harder. You can also think of it as proving old Pixy's heroism worthwhile by halting V2 and downing Pixy, which also works a lot better with the final cutscene on the ground.
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>>586302341
>I reset my 3 star ace bonus any time an enemy is near instead of pinging and trying to survive until my team arrives
But why though?
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>>586302536
I just went merc cause I wanted a lil challenge and I haven't done it in a while, I usually try to have it in right in the middle.
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>>586302536
I think Pixy being competent is what pushes him above every other wingman in terms of Charisma.
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>>586302649
My team isn't gonna do anything and I'm not getting MVP with a bunch of tryhard LAAM and EW boats so I might as well spitefully waste that faggot's time.
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>>586303023
>spitefully waste that faggot's time
The way you do that is by flying evasively and surviving
Killing yourself just lets him move on to one of your teammates
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>>586302887
Especially when you get PJ afterwards and he's barely better than the wingmen from 5.
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>>586303262
but he plays polo, you know, the game with the horses?
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NA NA NA NA NANANA NANA NANANA NANA NA
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>>586303023
If you're ground pounding you should be getting MVP though. Either you or the enemy ground pounder.
If a fighter gets MVP something has gone horribly wrong.
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>>586302536
I think it's Soldier. On a Knight run you're motivated by pride, on a Mercenary run you're motivated by money, but on a Soldier run you're motivated by duty. And that's reflected by both PJ's and Pixy's dialogue in the final 2 missions.
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>>586301138
Newtypes started appearing in more frequency after Belka dropped the nukes on themselves. Could say it was a plan to accelerate evolution!
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>>586301084
I wonder if an Attacker with the NG+ armour part would make the No Damage run even easier.
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belka nuking themselves made some sense. "you can't beat me if i kill myself"

here's something that still confuses me: why would dropping nukes eliminate borders?
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>>586305182
Proto-Ouroboros thinking, where if you fuck up the world enough then no one will be left standing to oppose your will. And Belkan hardliners wanting an excuse to get revenge on their enemies.
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NOBODY IS COMING
MIGHT BY COFFIN
IF I BURNED LIKE A STAR, WOULD YOU BE MY WITNESS?!
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>>586304635
It makes sense to use an attacker for a no damage run anyway so you can do the attacker only run at the same time
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>>586304635
>>586306031
Attacker or Multirole would be the best plays, since most of the damage you'll take with the damage part equipped will be from the fuckton of AA everywhere slowly chipping away at you or stray railgun shots. EW planes don't have the spw needed to take out ground targets from a safe distance, and Fighters are better to combine with the Guns Only playthrough since allies are useful enough for getting through ships and other gun-resistant targets but are less useful for helping you eliminate all the planes.
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Why has there never been a thrust vectoring delta wing?
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>>586306667
BECAUSE THE LATTER OBSOLETES THE FORMER
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I really dislike how the glass in front of you in the cockpit view of the f-15 blocks a lot of your screen
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>>586306667
There has been, and there will continue to be
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post ur best times
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>>586306667
Right here buddy.
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>>586307270
huh is this where they got the FA-36 Game yellow Ace skin from?
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>>586307940
Most likely yeah. They probably couldn't add the chinese planes due to CCP so they're at least appealing to the chinese audience with this.
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>>586307737
How about no?
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if China genuinely has 500+ J-20s that's honestly insane
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>>586305953
Somebody say COFFIN?
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https://x.com/spellknighted/status/2116627777105330661
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>>586306667
mig 144
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>>586307149
This is a general Ace Combat issue. The FOV is so low that it's more annoying than immersive.
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>>586308381
country that has by far the most robust vertically integrated resource extraction-refining-mass manufacturing system in the world for the past 20 years being able to make 500 stealth fighters is actually the least surprising thing ever (unless your brain calcified sometime around 2001)
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>>586223996
>Holy trinity should be played in release order imo
ngl I started going reverse order from 7 but I get why you'd say that because I'm struggling to start 5 and keep getting pulled back to Zero because god damn that game is amazing
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No head and still look autistic
how?
why are we like this?
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>>586307772
It is insane how much cooler non-nozzle thrust vectoring is. Just big slats of metal going "fuck you" to your flight model predictions.
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>>586307772
One of the sickest Hornet liveries.
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>>586309289
I love USB sticks
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>>586309865
Same, once they release the STOL/MTD I'm not flying anything else in multiplayer, even if it sucks total shit stats-wise.
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about to use MPBM on hoffnung for the first time
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I didn't pay much attention when flying it, but how does the FA-36 yaw? With its thrust vectored engines?
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I love those futuristic wings where they bend forward. Any reason they aren't real?
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>>586310376
berkute
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>>586310376
stelf
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>>586310376
>*snaps*
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>>586246541
as someone who thinks the airship fights peaked in 6 this image makes me unreasonably hard
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>>586310376
They give you crazy maneuverability, at the cost of massive stress on the airframe. The Berkut was basically trying to rip itself apart every time it took to the sky.
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>>586310376
The Su-47 has them in real life, also several experimental variants of US jets. The reason is they really don't like to land. Also I think there was something about it being multiplicatively harder to get one out of a flatspin, but it sounded like bullshit even when I heard it.
As for folding wings, a few had them, they're just crazy fucking expensive to maintain when you can get the same or superior shifts in performance with now-standard thrust vectoring.
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>>586310376
7's color grading is so jarring after playing 8. It's not Battlefield 3 tier but getting their I notice it all of the time now.
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>>586310964
AC7 is very blue
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>>586310964
7 has crazy over the top vignetting/film grain/colour filtering
>>586311071
When its not blue, its really green.
Anchorhead raid in the DLC for example.
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>>586311071
Dark blue, you could say.
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>wingman planes don't even change SPW according to mission requirements
Who greenlit this shit?
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>>586310254
I'm also curious. I didn't notice any control surfaces moving, but I also play at 720p so nozzle movements might be too small for me to notice.
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>>586311295
Yea, I really wish we could pick Sp.Ws for wingmen as well. It'd be nice to not have your wingmen taking A2G weapons in a purely A2A mission.
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https://www.safety.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/4520110/kc-46a-aircraft-accident-investigation-report-released/
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>>586311071
A counterpoint to PW's O R A N G E
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Are you telling f22 can't even feed herself like other planes and has to have shit squirted straight onto her guts?
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>>586308381
Real nigga economics >>>>>>>>>>>> "service economy" (4-D jewish financialization sorcery)
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>>586311539
>report acknowledges fault lies with biom operator
First for everything, I guess.
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There's like no one on in this squadron.
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>>586311539
>a tube breaks
>hits tail
>that'll be 9 million+tip
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>>586310376
because the hinge in the middle of the wing would just 404
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>>586311832
US GDP per capita is $95k, China GDP per capita is 15k. It's embarrassing that they can do shit that the US can't.
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>>586311825
Refuel probes look ugly, make you slower, and less stealthy
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>>586312307
I wouldn't be surprised if at least 400 of those J-20s were made of low quality parts and didn't perform anywhere near specification.
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>>586312395
If refuel probes are ugly, why does (almost) every eurodorito have one?
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>>586312307
Because they have their priorities in order as a country.
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>>586312307
as if theres a correlation between gdp-per-capita numbers and ability to retain a broad industrial base here
>>586312481
the pakis seemed to have a pretty good time with their jeffs against jeet rafales
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>>586312161
It probably fucked up a ton of electronics and hydraulics stuff along with the fuel boom, and then striking the airframe means the ENTIRE airframe gets a full inspection, at least a C check, if not an actual honest to god heavy D check.
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>>586312570
So having a poor economy is a good thing?
>>586312586
GDP measures total number of goods produced and services rendered, so there should be a correlation.
If nothing else it should let you buy someone else's industrial output if you don't have your own set up.
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>>586312307
Debt increases GDP. Two billionaires throwing money at eachother back and forth increases GDP. Real estate scalping increases GDP. There are countless bullshit ways to increase goyim per shekel while not actually creating anything of real value. Britain has a higher GDP than Russia, despite having sold off the last of its steel industry.
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>>586312764
wow an honest to god lolbert from the 00s
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>>586312764
>So having a poor economy is a good thing?
It lets them make a bunch of jets so yeah.
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>>586312804
China also has a real estate speculation bubble as well as a very well developed financial sector. Like half of the UK's GDP comes from London's banking. But the UK is also still a much nicer place to live than Russia, despite their long decline.
>>586312871
Not really a lolbert, I don't believe in unregulated capitalism, as it always results in stupid bubbles, monopolies, and the destruction of the commons.
But while GDP is not a perfect measure of an economy's strength it's also not so bad that a 6x difference is meaningless.
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>>586306667
>thrust vectoring lets you pitch hard
>deltas bleed speed fast when you pitch hard
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most impressive thing to me about stealth fighters is how they manage to cram a weapons bay in there AND also fuckhuge engines AND intake ducts AND any extra shit that goes in there
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>>586314396
it's kinda less impressive when you realise how fuckhuge both f-22 and su-57 are
but f-35, that one is impressive, it's just a smidge bigger than f-16 in both length and wingspan (though it is rather pudgy)
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Imagine a special MP mode where you and 19 other pilots are all stuck in the CL-1201's Phantoms, launch from it in coordination (for points), defend it, and at the end reattach (for points) to end the mission.
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>>586315210
How the fuck are you supposed to reattach?
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>>586315267
magnets
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>>586315267
carefully
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>>586315267
it's like aerial refuelling but hard mode
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>>586313871
The Revoker in Fission Conundrum is basically does this when you hard pitch up with stability assist off, but because it has pitch and yaw thrust vectoring, you can just sort of hover in place with no energy at all and point your nose wherever the hell you want
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>>586315267
docking tubes like in space
not kidding
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>>586315837
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>>586315267
They don't expect you to return
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>>586315210
I wonder how viable the Yamato's launch bay would be in atmosphere

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgg4DnmlsQY
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>>586314396
Stelf fighters are fucking massive for a reason.
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>>586316643
Which is funny because small=less detectable
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Bullets needs to be faster or something online. Fucking impossible to aim when the lead you need to put on to hit has the enemy plane offscreen.
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>>586315210
what do >we think of mustard?
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>even the Japanese are bitching about warfare
Wonder if this means PA will actually make changes to the mode. Instead of forcing engagement with it via weeklies.
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I genuinely really wish we had chinese planes in base AC8, it would fix the obvious lack of eastern carrier borne aircraft, and the Su-33 is incredibly old and outdated.
J-15DT (pictured) as an EW
J-15 as multirole so you can also re-use its model practically
J-11 for your fighter so in a fighter only run you're not LOCKED to the F-14s or Game
J-35 as a rather funny alternative to the F-35

In general, you'd think for the game telling you "do the game only with X role" would offer a variety of choices for carrier planes.
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>>586318671
never played a bamco online game before? they don't give a shit, even about the japs
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>>586315925
The realistic pores on his face are why this game is more than 40GB
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This is the largest payout I've seen so far. Too bad ZOLL is completely meaningless at this point since everything is golden ticket gated.
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>the lead in my formation got destroyed, better speed up and crash into the wreck!
why are sotoan tu-95 pilots like this
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>>586319724
>su34
dont care lol
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>>586312537
Because probe-and-drogue systems are much smaller and easier to use. Flying boom has vastly more fuel throughput in exchange for being vastly more maintenance heavy and requiring much larger tanker planes.
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>>586319882
I'm sorry, I forgot I should exclusively use the absolute worst planes in the game.
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>>586319882
NTA but unless you're a fan of getting to play the game less (whether it be because you'll get bullied by everything, your targets stolen, or because your plane is statistically terrible) there's no reason to not use whatever is at the top of "its class"
I used to main the F-4 in AC7, unless I wanna be a drag on my team there'd be no reason for me to use something like that anymore.
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>>586320363
lol youre a metafag typhoon laamspammer too i dont care what you have to say
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>>586320515
Yeah, I use the Barricader for the EW role too. Miss me with that anti-meta shit where you're supposed to intentionally pick shit you know is bad.
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Encountered my first bug and it's a big one
>mission 28
>land
>rearm
>take off
>can't use any weapons
I get the SHOOT prompt but the target isn't locked and pressing either guns button or missile button does nothing
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what if /aceg/...
had fun?
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>>586321382
I am
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>funslop
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>>586320370
ADFX-02 with TLS/ECM is pretty much the only thing that's so disgusting that it should be avoided. Su-57 QAAM, Typhoon LAAM, Su-47 UGBL/4AGM and EA-36 IEWS/4AAM are all just good planes that do their job well.
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>>586319724
Damn this nigga's dressed like a vampire
Nah you aight white boy keep inviting me to emergency sorties <3
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4AAM on the F-15C isn't as bad as I thought it would be in Warfare. Either you shotgun them at targets of opportunity or pressure one guy until he flares and opens himself up for SASM.
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>Ace Combat 8 sold at least 3 times what Gears of War sold, costing (allegedly) 1\5 of its budget

What a time to be alive. US devs on suicide watch
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>>586319819
tu-95s loaded to brim with bombs aren't known for their maneuverability anon
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Why do the rest of shadows give me a lot more trouble than Topkek
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>>586322867
I think the last one alive gets the mega missle dodging skills even if it's not 22
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>>586321771
EA-36 is also disgusting
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>>586323474
It's just a more selfish and slightly upgraded EA-18G. Nothing too crazy.
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>>586321771
If the Morgan gets removed tomorrow then you'll just be limited to roughly what you said instead
there's no reason to use anything that isn't
The Su-57, the best dogfighter (or the F-22 but they're almost copy pastes of each other in stats, come on)
The Typhoon, the best long range slinger since it is, to some degree, still a better dogfighter than the MiG-31
The Su-47 is not an attacker so you lose points to your team by not using an Su-34 or F-15E to ground pound
and the Barricader is the only EW plane that can hold its own if the enemy brings anything that was mentioned before
Which they will bring anything mentioned before because there's no cost limit and why wouldn't (You) pick something that's not gonna make you win as easily as possible
What's the point of an AC Multiplayer where you're punished for using anything that isn't a high end plane, come on.
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>>586323558
EA-18G is also disgusting
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>>586321334
lmao how the hell am I getting E rank in this, I didn't even know there was such a rank
Is it because I had to kill myself and restart from checkpoint due to the bug? Or just low score? I had something like 88k when the shadows appeared
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>>586323630
For some reason I had a huge brainfart and wrote Su-47 instead of Su-34. Obviously the Su-47 can't even take UGBL/4AGM. Because it has neither of those SPWs.
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Looking at the techno contour lines skin, it tells me that PA is fully capable of making good plane skins and they have most planes split into underbelly/back palettes already. All they have to do is to change the colours.

I reckon they intentionally put the shitty colours in the regular ticket since it's the free gacha.
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>>586323558
>Nothing too crazy
It barely got uptime on its IEWS plus its abilities makes its missiles better than all AA spw and makes them invisible, its also the most straightforward and easy to use plane, yes it is disgusting.
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>>586322303
Total mutt bankruptcy
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idk how you guys finished so fast
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>>586323875
You need like 100k before the shadows to get an S, or 110k more realistically. From then on it's all about how quick you kill them because the time bonus goes up to 50k or so. You need around 160k for S. The 2 gun upgrade parts help immensely, you can chew through the bombers much faster than missles can.
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If the KF-21 Boramae made it in, would anyone play it, or is it just too boring?
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>>586324397
weekly challenges give you a lot
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>>586324461
Depends on the special weapons. They're unfortunately what defines a plane.
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Ive played a good 5 games in this franchise and I'm still not exactly sure what the relation between speed and turn rate is. Is there a "best" turning speed for each plane? Do you turn better while braking? While accelerating? Is it just as simple as "below X speed you stall, above Y speed you turn bad"?
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>>586324950
It's more complicated than you think actually, your altitude affects it too.
It also changes from game to game.
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>>586324397
Every daily is basically a guaranteed level, weeklies are 3 levels. 5 weeks should give you 15 levels from weeklies and 35 levels from dailies, then you only need 50(or 20) levels from regular sorties which is 333 sorties(or 133). Numbers in brackets are for good goy special edition buyers.
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>>586324950
some planes turn good at X speed some turn good at Y speed
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>>586323762
>All EW planes are disgusting and people should just refuse to play the EW role
Yeah, okay.
I agree that ECM is a bit too strong and needs a nerf. The lock time debuff should be like double lock time, not "you will literally never lock on lmao".
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It's Halloween on a Saturday night and I'm a 22 year old bum playing plane games instead of going out with people my age.
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>>586322303
I'd bet on a schizo twitter game dev before I'd bet on Microsoft, honestly.
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>>586322303
nothing new
japs have been mogging the entire western gaming industry for a while
bioware went out recently because they kept releasing troonslop
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>>586324461
they really nailed the "mystery meat f-35 plastic toy from the dollar store" aesthetic
if it flies nice and it has useful SPWs I'll use, why not
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>>586325428
ESM is also way too strong, it's basically a win dogfight button.
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>>586325520
One day you realize going out isn't mandatory every weekend and it kinda sucks especially with how cunty everyone is nowadays and how expensive it is to get anywhere and get food or drinks, meanwhile staying home playing games is free and comfy
t. 34
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Hosting public scramble now
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Prowler is TRASH
Every attacker that isn't the SU-34 or F-15E is TRASH
Every multirole is TRASH except maybe the ones that get the anti-air mod to LARP as a fighter but at that point why aren't you just playing a fighter
Any fighter that doesn't get at least one out of SASM, QAAM or LAAM is TRASH
If you pick any of these in Warfare you are actively hindering your team
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>>586322303
Proof? No really, I want to laugh at M$.
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>>586325792
>t. 34
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>>586325734
No it isn't. You're supposed to be at a disadvantage if your EW plane got shot down and the enemy EW plane is still up.
But ECM is just cancerous as it just freezes the fight for anything other than guns or TLS(or LAAMs third partying from 10k away).
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Why do people wanna see Count on ac8, I thought he was very disliked
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>>586326354
Just the reload buff alone would be more than enough advantage.
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>>586326565
No, that would make it kinda worthless compared to other options. Outside of E-sorties which are a pure DPS check.
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>>586325520
I'm chillin', scanning a book with TV on in the background and giving out full size candy whenever someone rings my doorbell, just like I did last year. Fun and fulfillment is what you make of it.
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>>586326063
https://www.ign.com/articles/gears-of-war-e-day-reportedly-cost-500-million-to-make-amid-claims-it-has-sold-just-400000-copies

not even half a mil copies
meanwhile CHADcombat 8 has already gotten past 1 mil on a shoestring budget by comparison
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>>586326852
I heard about the 1 million sales earlier in the month. That was basically just preorders.
I am wondering if there has been any news of sales since.
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>>586326657
By itself maybe, but every EW plane gets both ECM and ESM. Loss of it is going to be big enough disadvantage even if you remove ESM completely from them all. So yeah, just a reload buff ESM is enough advantage.
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>>586326427
Count padded his kill count A big moment of the initial trailer was DD talking about padding your kill count. Count ended up being a buddy at the end, especially in the DLC missions. People thought it'd be funny.
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>>586326852
One million! ONE MILLION SALES!
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>>586326951
If they nerf ECM to just doubling lock time instead of like quintupling it ESM would be fine. In fact ESM right now is fine, if you see someone bringing in a low level Growler with only ESM just to completely the weekly challenge they're really not that much of a threat.
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>>586324461
I mean it looks better than an F-35, but really any new 5th gens would be a plus. Been Felon-Raptor-Lightning for like 15 years now. I imagine the gooks are autistic as the chinks when it comes to portraying their planes.
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>>586325428
It could also reduce lock on range and tracking of missiles instead of just preventing a lock
>>586323630
At level 20, mid-tier dogfighters can hang with the top tier. Doesn't feel bad at all in a F16 or F15C
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>>586326852
I don't think we can call say AC8 had a shoe-string budget when they made a full live action mini-series to promote the game.
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>>586327341
please read the entire sentence anon sama

>by comparison
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>>586327341
you mean the live action miniseries where they used glorified ac8 machinima for the jet fighter sequences and then spic telenovela tier studio sets for everything else
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>>586327539
Using AC8 models as machinima is exactly what an Ace Combat live action series should do. Near-total verisimilitude with the game.
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Anyone else getting these flickering multi-coloured specks at certain angles on aircraft?
Is this just lumen GI shitting itself
>>
Sorry, I am speed incarnate and I will not slow down.
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>>586324461
It looks like more of a chink knockoff than the chink knockoffs, it's super uninteresting.
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>>586328006
that's not trivia
>stop using full throttle
I'm on ps2 controls I'm either full throttle, no throttle, or full braking
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>>586325958
So I can use: Su-57, F-22A, FA-36, EA-36, Typhoon, EA-18G, Su-34, F-15E, F-15C, F-16C, Mig-31, F-14D, Mig-21bis, Morgan.

14/34 planes.
Question is, how do we make multiroles good?
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>>586328006
>avoid third person view
literally never until PA gets their head out of their ass and acknowledges that its not the PS2 era anymore and most people are playing within a foot of their monitor which means an actual FOV slider would be VERY welcome
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>>586328006
Reminder that if you
>added yaw to maintain altitude during a vertical turn
>stopped using full throttle
>made use of chaff and flares
>made use of your wingmen
>stopped using full throttle
>used any other view than 3rd person
>didn't skip briefings
>stopped using full throttle
Then you didn't beat the game.
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>>586328173
If you'd just remove the damage and point nerfs you'd immediately have a reason to pack a multirole like the F-35C, clearing ships effectively and eating up any small ground target quickly with 8AGMs while still being menacing enough in a dogfight
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>>586328158
>that's not trivia
I assume it's an auto translation quirk.
>>586328191
Yea, people threw an fov mod together like day 1 and I immediately installed one of them. There's no reason for there not to be an FOV slider except for jap autism. They modeled the cockpits very nicely and the stick even moves with your inputs but you will literally never see that unless you're, for whatever reason, flying around while looking down.
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>>586327240
Just a reminder that the pitch graph doesn't tell the entire story, both the F-22 and Su-57 pull better high G turns.
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>>586327539
I just wish the FCU flag at the end was real and not CGI.
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>>586312586
>the pakis seemed to have a pretty good time with their jeffs against jeet rafales
I mean, they're fucking jeets. I don't think they even have AWACS.
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>>586329028
Weren't the Chinese were also involved in that killchain? Which is a cool showing of sensor sharing and remote guidance and whatnot, but it's also a continuation of the trend that jeets suck at opposing the chinks
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>>586329621
Jeets suck at everything, even compared to muslim-jeets.
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>>586325550
>>586322303
>unironically posting this in the same year theUS is about to release the biggest media property ever produced in the history of humanity.
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>>586329778
>NPC VI
yawn
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>>586329778
Pokemon?
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>>586329845
GTA isnt even American, its Scottish
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>>586329845
I mean if you're arguing that more sales = better then yeah, GTA 6 will sell like 20 million in the first week.
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>>586328529
Just dropping the point nerf would probably be enough to make the F-35 and Rafale solid picks.
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GTA is going to sell a lot, but it will not be received well.
The gameplay is just more of the same, and the story is going to be "strong female character and her autistic male muscle". Probably some weird version of Of Mice and Men.
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>>586330263
>will not be received well
If you count several game of the year awards as "not being received well", then sure.
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>>586329778
>theUS
I thought Rockstar was bri'ish and a significant amount of GTA was outsourced to India
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>>586330389
Game awards are just nepotism.
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>>586330263
>The gameplay is just more of the same
why do people feel the need to just make shit up when it comes to games they really dont care about
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>>586330457
Okay, smartass. What's the new gameplay mechanic that GTA6 will introduce.
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>>586330263
>>586330457
It's also funny to use "more of the same" arguement against another game in the fucking AC thread.
If it works, it works. They don't have to reinvent the wheel.
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>>586330263
>GTA is going to sell a lot, but it will not be received well.
Reviewers are cowards and not give anything lower than an 8 in fear of sabotaging their relationship with Rockstar. Game award shows have been bought and paid for, with the dorito pope's show changing their cutoff date just to slot in GTAVI. Normalfags are sheep and will love it just because it's the new GTA.
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>>586330572
In-game clinics that let you transition your gender.
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>>586330572
multiple methods of car theft gated by age and model from slimjims to key cloners
simulated fuel consumption
extra granular wanted system that tracks physical description, weapons carried, vehicle used, last known location
physical inventory for weapons and items
modular weapon customization in the vein of gunsmith from call of duty
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>>586328006
I am going to use every last bit of my mach 2.23 and there's nothing they can do to stop me.
>>
Some are hit or miss, but the only three nicknames so far that make me nervous every time are
>Band Member
>No Plans to Retire
>Cannon Fodder
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>>586328006
>stop using full throttle all the time
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>>586331007
>could put body emblems just behind the air intakes
>project aces decides to put them right by the rear part of the wing, where it looks really shitty being so close to the tail emblem and the wing emblem
This autistic complaint is the only real thing I dislike about the Phantom in 8.
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>>586328006
>avoid third person view
I've never used any other mode except for tunnel runs. Why would you give people that awful advice?
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For those of you that run number emblems on your plens, body or tail?
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>>586328006
>stop using full throttle all the time
I literally can't, the DS4 triggers are retardedly oversensitive, the best I can do is feather that shit.
>>
I just want GTAVI to release so people can shut the fuck up about it
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>>586331421
Number on left body and right wing
Flag on right body and left wing
Squadron / personal on tail
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>>586331421
Body, tail is for the squad and wing is for nation(sotoa)
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>>586331421
depends on the plane
if its russian, body
if its western, tail
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>>586331361
>tfw me in the prop job dropping Daisy Cutters
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I'm surprised there isn't more diversity in NPC bomber enemies and bombs.
It would be cool to fight against gunships more frequently, or have to stop daisy cutters.
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>>586331421
Nose and tail, wings get a red dorito as a fun color accent. There's no emblems I want to rock yet apart from the Flying Moles on the Phantom.
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>>586331351
FPV drone mode is objectively the best way to fly.
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>>586331663
It was neat having to hunt down the B2s in Escort Orbiter, especially since you can easily miss out and just assume the BVRAAMs spawn out of midair
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>>586331663
>if you pop a daisy cutter as it's separating, it blows the C-130 apart, flinging the wings to the sides and the cockpit forward and up
would be sick
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>>586331663
>have to stop daisy cutters.
Would be rad as fuck but I'm pretty sure missile intercept missions fuck up casuals, considering how most casuals are terrible at flying. Telling them to intercept cruise missiles like in 2, 4, 6, etc., let alone gun down things like at the end of 2 snd in a number of 3's missions would be too great of a filter.
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>>586331756
>caring about objectively best camera in an arcade shooter
Third person is best because it lets you look at all the pretty details of your plane, and it transitions into the tracking camera much better as well.
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>>586299026
>>586272198
these at least look like Tasha

>>586271631
this doesn't look like Kate at all
the AI face is too short and looks way, way too young
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>>586331969
even people in this very general whine about missile intercept sequences
>>
Have you guys encountered any cool mission fail dialogue?
If you let the Triumphant crash into the Endurance, Cope will say "I hope I never see you people in the afterlife."
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>have to stop daisy cutters
>have to stop CAS that's napalming your troops
>have to stop stealth bombers from bunker busting your command HQ
>superweapon that's less a flying carrier and more a giant gunship that's intended to raise entire cities under sustained fire
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>>586331969
Oh! Hey! Did anyone else notice that "intercept the 4 missiles" interstitial objective seems to have been removed from MP? It was there the first week and now it feels like half the time it's the drone screen, I think they replaced it with that.
>>
I got kicked out of the squadron :/
Sorry for not logging for like a week
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>>586332189
I don't ever remember seeing an intercept four missiles update.
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>>586332434
I only got it 3-4 times, so even when it was there it was rare.
>>
>sub mission
>fly to where the missiles spawn
>expecting to nuke the sub
>lol nope, here is shooting cruise missiles for an eternity
I guess punishment for thinking
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>>586332075
I've only really noticed people complaining that mission 30's boring, not that it's hard. It feels like a victory lap mission like Aces in 5, except in 5 you get to fight your Bellan rivals as a warm-up and you don't have to wait for the speed of plot just to blow up the SOLG.
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>>586332189
I've only seen that on Waiapolo once. It feels like it has equal chances to proc as any of the other mid mission updates on that map, which means it's fighting against all the different possible fighter squad updates.
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>>586332582
I think it's supposed to act as an epilog and bridge to the DLC which will be a further bridge to AC3*3.
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>>586332348
Not that it really matters. I doubt the squadron will even be full in a week because who the fuck is playing the online still except autists and retards?
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>>586332760
It's a repeat of 7's fight with the ravens, thematically.
I saw someone mentioned the other day (not here) that that 7, 8, and 9 will form a trilogy and I think that's correct. 7 introduces the Lighthouse and the modern ZOE project, 8 continues both storylines (the Sotoans are outright after the Lighthouse, it isn't just the FCU's land they want to migrate to but everywhere in the whole world while the Spears keep local governments under their thumb), and 9 will probably see a return of not just the Lighthouse but also the fulfillment of the ZOE storyline.
What was pointed out is that the twin Ravens speak gibberish (other than singing LA LA LA), the Triumphant can speak but in a stilted pseudo-German language, and whatever is going to be in 9 will probably be able to speak fully.
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>>586332049
Motherfucker I want to BE the plane. I want to fuck planes. I want to embody the plane. FPV drone is objectively the best way to fly. I WANT TO BE INSIDE THE PLANE!
(and that has nothing to do with how efficient it is for gameplay, because 3rd person is actually better).
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>>586333108
I do hope the AIs keep the warbly off-putting speech pattern, even with full words. I like it.
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>>586332049
>look at all the pretty details of your plane
It's weird how the devs forgot that. They used to have things to look at like Wyvern wings folding or Falken mouth opening or Nosferatu EML popping up, but Raven Raven and Nightmare don't do anything special.
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>>586333837
Maybe something like the Orz from Star Control where there is a slight inability to translate the AI's artificial thinking.
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>>586333948
i am *squeezing* the *lager*
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>>586333948
>think "wow Star Control fans and Ace Combat fans overlap? I wouldn't have guessed-"
>sudden realization that I, in fact, am also here
Oh right.
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>>586272684
>Crimson 1 out of nowhere
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>>586333108
>>586333948
>the first thing an AI says, with direct intent for a human to recieve and comprehend it, is "DIE." followed by your cockpit lighting up woth RAILGUN WARNING
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>>586297959
It's really crazy that some Osean retard thought it was smart to introduce more crazies into a fight with a crazy submarine captain. Even more crazy is that the final fight at Anchorhead bay is happening whilst Torres is trying to snipe Trigger from like 200km away.
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>>586301138
The US had it as a potential strategy in the Korean war against the Chinese, that's probably where it was inspired from.
>>
Endurance should've been an aerial carrier.
>>
Does the F-22 have a unique trait of extending lock on range or something? I notice that it seems people using F-22 in campaign has a longer missile range or something like at around 3500
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>>586335091
Maybe easier modes have longer lockons?
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>>586333108
>>It's a repeat of 7's fight with the ravens, thematically.
Not really a straight repeat, the drone sub is a faceless corporation's dream. It can't take responsibility and it is actively trying to erase you to get the Enso/GR masterminds away from trouble. Defeating it is more thematically symbolic of breaking down the barrier between you and whoever the fuck thinks they are above consequence.
Though in the end it's not enough, as the credits show, but at least your guys made it home safely.
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>>586335170
Story mode does yea
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>>586335091
There's a part that increases range. It's only a 25% boost so not quite that strong though. But still pretty strong.
>>
WHERE NEW THREAD
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>>586335365
>>586335414
Must be that + story mode then
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>>586335597
it's in my ass you gotta reach in real deep for it
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I know I'm in an /aceg/ lobby when I'm forced to do dumb shit like fly at ultra low altitudes in an attacker to avoid the itano circus.
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>>586335597
on it
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>>586336160
>>586336160
>>586336160
new
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>>586335010
FCU too broke, please understand. Even the Triumphant was a joint venture together with Enso and GR.
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>>586333943
Pretty sure the Raven's "beak" still opens for the TLS
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