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    Rejection Edition
    Previous: >>468636892

    >What... is this?
    Put simply, a simulation of Pro Evolution Soccer being competed between teams which are embodiments of generals of the /vg/ board. The players represent facets of each general's culture. All of the matches are AI versus AI. However, humans "manage" each team, creating their tactics and giving input during games as they happen to make substitutions and tactical changes as they see fit.
    https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/FAQ

    >Where can I watch the VGL?
    http://cytube.implying.fun/c/vgleague

    >Ongoing Cups
    None

    >Ongoing Invitationals
    None

    >Upcoming Cups
    http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_27_Qualifiers
    http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_27

    >Upcoming Invitationals
    None

    >Wiki:
    https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League

    >Sekkrit Code
    37pebis

    >DLC Password
    divegrass

    >Stats
    http://sql.implying.fun

    >VOD Archive
    http://implying.fun

    >PES Info
    http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2019

    >Roster Quiz
    http://vglquizsloppa.pages.dev

    >Previously
    Shitposting
    Schizophrenia
    /egg/, /ink/ and /smtg/ got rejected
    Drama
    BEE THE CHANGE
    >>
    Nice previous you fucking retard
    >>
    >>586157973
    retard
    >>
    >>586157973
    lol
    >>
    >>586157768
    anything but /ksg/ kwabbypow
    >>
    /hdg/ should've been rejected
    >>
    >>586159203
    Gio knows too much about the 'co, they need him closer
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    Love PES versions with actual refs
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    so who's gonna BEE now
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    >>586162135
    bee for what?
    >>
    >>586162295
    for the 52nd spot
    >>
    >>586162295
    beez nuts
    >>
    >>586162135
    IN COMES /trash4ccg/ WITH THE CHAIR
    >>
    So who's going to BEE and start working on /vglg/?
    >>
    but will asunaposting continue here or in /4ccg/
    >>
    i don't like this split stuff fellas..
    lets go back home...
    >>
    >>586162783
    this is your home
    >>
    >>586162707
    Beebs is more VGLcore than 4CCcore
    >>
    >>586162904
    Asuna... i mean true
    >>
    >>586162904
    Based
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    >>586162707
    >>586162904
    >>586162987
    kill yourself
    >>
    Let's get down to brass tacks. Which manager that doesn't talk much would you breed?
    >>
    >>586163059
    'gen
    'kento
    >>
    why did we accept ccg into our league again, it's just wasting a slot
    >>
    >>586163561
    >we
    didn't, ask Nomo about his funny ideas
    /4ccg/ primaries, if there are any, are not actual VGL fans
    >>
    >>
    >tfw 'ccg is having fun on pes17 and we're stuck with piss19
    it's not fair mom, why can't we have expensive luxuries like the neighbor's kids do?
    >>
    >>586165015
    because we have to get it out of the way, sweetie
    >>
    >>586165015
    Vibecode the animated shaders into the old games, then we can talk
    >>
    >>586165295
    >muh shaders
    we don't need that. we don't need uvscroll either.
    >>
    18 was perfectly fine and ready. Just saying.
    >>
    >>586166412
    wtf where are my wires?
    >>
    >>586166412
    One person is saying this
    >>
    >>586166412
    It'll have its time
    I really doubt we'd skip it before going back to prefox
    >>
    >>586166412
    True. VGLco made the right decision to appease the 19 fanatics but 18 will soon be here.
    >>
    >>586167431
    This but unironically.
    People would have been livid if 18 was picked and its reputation would have been immediately sunk just by virtue of le getting it over with meme

    There will probably be a much fairer opinion on it after all the newbabs have experienced 19.
    >>
    >>586166412
    vibecoping
    >>
    >>586167943
    so that's why the copper merchant keeps pushing unstable exe's for 19 that no one asked for
    >>
    >>586168603
    vibecopper
    >>
    >>586168889
    there no exes made though?
    >>
    What's our roster for vgl28?
    >>
    >>586171325
    23 Essexes
    >>
    >>586171325
    23 gugugagas
    >>
    >>586171325
    We have one more day to finalize our roster

    /vglg/ go

    Mandate of Rabi
    Holy Fucking Dimes (/trick/)
    We should do this again next VGL (make this a warcry for the Bellum)
    'Bellum
    My Fuarking Huge /sora/
    Danteh with the header - The Doll model but with Dante
    PES18 is fixed - triangle model with a yellow name
    /1992/
    #Gookshit or Bring Back Gookshit
    HMOFA
    Lapwing or #justice4lapwing
    Aryanstew
    no uma no hyp
    디시인사이드
    The Rapist - sea lion
    The Raped - penguin
    Cunny… Cunny! No…
    Pink Dog
    Grr st/ink/
    Mumbaihall
    Is that a limbus reference?
    Say the line, Nep
    Hanny’s decade
    gooks will watch this just for her
    /wuwa/
    /domg/ dans
    oooooh streamer
    Mickey Mouse
    Futas in heat

    Music - /hdg/'s export
    >>
    >>586172478
    >My Fuarking Huge /sora/
    Holy fucking dimes
    >>
    >>586171325
    Why are we not signing up to vgl27? We're well over 6 months old https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/%2Fvglg%2F/
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    >>586173006
    how about YOU sign the thread up?
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    >>586172478
    Culled /egg/
    >>
    Odds of getting a 52nd signup?
    >>
    >>586175732
    Has the snowbunny manager explained why they're not signing up this time? You'd think with no other content to discuss the thread would appreciate the distraction of divegrass.
    >>
    >>586175732
    Small but not 0, whoever is willing to try they have a whole week
    idk if they're doing manager verifications now but this could be /vglg/ or /dlg/
    >>586175981
    0 mentions of divegrass in the general for the past few months, like at all, and Haru is still active in the 'cord like nothing happened
    >>
    >>586172478
    but 18 is not relevant?
    >>
    >>586165015
    After watching the past two matches, I think I'm good
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    >>586179467
    Really? I remember 17 being fun
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    >>586179651
    maybe the retarded patches are fucking up the game I guess?
    >>
    >>586179651
    QD is serving the retardbowl 0-0 special
    >>
    >>586179651
    It is, that ruleset and the whack patch are not fun.
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    >>586179746
    >>586180021
    >>586180181
    Grim.
    >>
    >>586179651
    >>586179467
    It's almost like they're using a drastically different patched version that does a whole bunch of whacky shit, which everyone said was a fucking mistake.
    >>
    anyone here had too much freetime and actually looked around /vg/ in search of potential signups?
    >>
    >>586183502
    play video games
    >>
    >>586183654
    >very gacha league
    >play video games
    >>
    >>586172478
    >Holy Fucking Dimes (/trick/)
    No one here says that though. Garbage roster, can almost tell who came up with it.
    >>
    >>586184805
    name and shame
    >>
    >>586184938
    Only VGLcord niggers would suggest those things, your flesias, ubers, gios, brushes, bowlings etc etc
    >>
    >>586184805
    make a better one NOW you NYONER
    >>
    >>586185316
    so you don't know
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    >/4ccg/ has two hundred more posts than /vglg/

    /vglg/ flopped bigley
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    >>586190370
    well it's a cup day while this is still the offseason
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    >page 9
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    >>586197271
    Fat bitch.
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    >{{sq bronze player |no= |pos={{NewPosition|CMF|type=3}} |name={{tt|Coco S.Lutty|formerly known as OUR FVARKING HEROINE}}}} {{captain}}
    the /sora/ stinks a bit less
    >>
    >>586200000
    >>
    >>586200920
    Good morning saar
    >>
    >>586200920
    >/vrg/
    of course
    >>
    >>586197953
    >from a dragon ball meme to a one piece meme
    oy vey
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    >>586204163
    why are spics like this?
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    managers for this feel?
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    >>586183502
    >/trg/
    moderate attempt at revival, the actual POI post may not look that good but one of the chain replies from presumably the same guy got 4 replies. I feel like they'd go in and that would save /dbg/ from qualies, unless Denko's gonna bluntly say "no" citing VGL25 chat numbers.

    another funny thing: /hgg2d/ claims to have collected 66 votes (and nothing invalidated) in their roster poll

    other than that, radio silence.

    I feel like I should ask /dlg/ because maybe they'd actually pull that off in 3 weeks given how easy it is to work with Source. Or not even that.
    https://open3dlab.com/project/384895d7-2813-4fd0-9fee-163dadf84ec6/
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    >>586207356
    well, what are you waiting for
    go be for dlg
    as you said, sauce is piss easy to rip
    >>
    >>586207469
    see, here's the problem, I'm fully occupied with 2 teams officially (and a few more unofficially), I really can't bee.
    But maybe I can groom someone into beeing.
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    These 19 bronzes feel like ass without a bufflet bracket
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    remember to BEE for your team
    there's still a slot open
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    >>586208763
    i'm gonna rape this bee and maybe even pay her
    >>
    Decided to be useless and autistic tonight
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    >>586209483
    I think it would be worth highlighting multiple starwinners, and also auto runs.
    Has /mggg/ ever been live-managed?
    >>
    >>
    >>586209715
    >when anon finally BEEs
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    >>586209670
    Yes they've had 3 managers. Chance, MagicalCoat (/c/ manager), and Kekkels.
    >>
    >>586209483
    are you even a team if youre in the none category?
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    >>586211136
    hard to be in any pre-debut
    >>
    >>586207356
    where's the archive anon, how bad was /trg/'s turnover?
    >>
    I'm curious, does anyone have any ideas for the upcoming VGL except cookie cutter 442? 451 looks decent sometimes, maybe I'll try that /hdg/ 343.
    >>
    >>586214890
    im just gonna let a cookie cutter 442 go and probably die in groups and get told it was a shit export
    >>
    >>586215553
    If the push comes to shove and none of my ideas are particularly great and show great promise and consistent edge (over 442 at least), I'll probably do the same.
    >>
    >Pinpoint Crossing
    >Early Cross
    Are these supposed to be for the one doing the cross or the one receiving them?
    >>
    >>586216454
    Doing it
    >>
    >>586216454
    I don't think there are any cards that apply specifically to a player *receiving* a pass. All of the passing cards are for them doing the pass.
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    >>586218353
    Actually I guess One touch pass could technically count but that's only because they pass as soon as they receive.
    >>
    >>586218353
    Heading sorta counts but it's not a traditional "pass".
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    >>586218484
    Oh yeah, I guess heading does count, but like you said it's not really a traditional "pass", more for goal kicks and hail mary longballs.
    >>
    >>586216454
    Sometimes I wish we had more details about these things but knowing more also ruins the kayfabe and makes seeing all the esoteric exports less fun.
    >>
    >>586218765
    >Sometimes I wish we had more details about these things
    I mean we do, you just need to look up what Aoba said in his gork deep-dive.
    I do agree it ruins some of the fun and voodoo for some stuff, but I also don't mind some of the COM playstyles getting a little more of an explanation, because stuff like Early Cross has always been such a ??? COM playstyle for the vast majority of managers throughout the years so almost no one ever runs it.
    At least now that managers have maybe a hint (or just AI hallucinating some bullshit to them) of what it does it'd be seen more often. Same for other cards and playstyles not often seen.
    >>
    >>586219201
    I'm still skeptical about all the stuff Aoba put out as we can't truly say which parts were 100% true or which parts were just the AI making stuff up but there are a few that at least semi-confirmed people's long time theories on like with Captaincy and Fighting Spirit(or was it Super Sub).
    >>
    >>586219601
    Well, the kayfabe is somewhat kept at least. You don't know if you're being fed bullshit or the truth by the AI, just like you don't know if you're being fed bullshit or the truth by some veteran manager who did a thousand tests and starts seeing patterns that may or may not exist.
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    >>586218765
    Personally I just want a better explanation for most of the cards. As someone who's never big on footy in the first place, most of the card explanations are borderline useless to me and I almost always have to look up what a Marseille Turn or a Rabona is.
    >>
    >>586220314
    >I almost always have to look up what a Marseille Turn or a Rabona is.
    To be fair, those are trick cards and trick cards usually you have to look up wtf they even look like by some guy who actually plays PES.

    Not only that, and someone who actually knows footy can correct me if I'm wrong here, but I'm pretty sure almost all of the trick cards aren't even named after IRL tricks, they're just made up names by Konami except for a select few.
    >>
    >>586207695
    Abandon them. /dlg/ is more important
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    >>586221952
    There are a few that aren't trick cards like most of the [name] shot cards. I guess it's a good thing that trick cards are free.
    >>
    >>586220314
    >Personally I just want a better explanation for most of the cards.

    >Heading
    Improves accuracy of headers, most people believe it's specifically for downwards headers. Decent card but not very useful on 19 since downwards headers aren't attempted very often and while you'd think it'd improve the dreadful 19 heading accuracy, it just kinda doesn't change much. Could potentially be useful for midfielders for receiving longballs and goalkicks.
    >Long Range Drive
    A shot from the inside of the foot (if you're shooting from your right foot, it's the side where your big toe is) that curls into the net
    >Knuckle Shot
    Mostly a freekick card
    >Acrobatic Finishing
    Similar to heading, although some think it increases the amount of times a player will do a "But what if though?", which are very good on 17 but extremely awful on 19. Similar to heading as I said in the fact that you'd think it'd improve accuracy of those "But what if though?"s but it just doesn't
    >Heel Trick
    Genuine ???? card. Heel tricks happen a ton on PES19, it's like its main gimmick, but this card isn't needed for that, so it's unclear what exactly it does. I genuinely don't notice any difference with it on or off in my testing.
    >First-time Shot
    Increases accuracy of players that take an immediate shot after being passed the ball
    >One-touch pass
    Increases accuracy of one touch passes
    >Weighted Pass
    One of the best passing cards, gives the ball a nice backspin that usually lands perfectly right at the striker's feet.
    >Pinpoint Crossing
    Improves the chances that players will make a successful cross
    >Outside Curler
    Like Long Range Drive with how it curls into the net, but shot with the outside of the foot instead (your pinky toe side if you're a righty). Mostly useful on players with inverted footing (i.e. right footed on the left side of the pitch)
    >Low Lofted Pass
    A pass that just barely leaves the ground
    >Low Punt Trajectory
    Goalkeeper card, it's a punt that's kicked rather low in the air

    1/2 or 3
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    >>586222820
    Dipping shot is good for free kicks/longshots, it makes them dip so they aren't over the bar and go neatly into the net.

    Chip shot is for one-on-ones with the keeper so instead of running/shooting into the keeper/wide they lob it over him and they generally do that competently from my impression.

    Rising shot no idea honestly, sounds like a longshot with a travelling trajectory similar to dipping shot to confuse the keeper, but anyone with more knowledge is free to correct me.

    Knuckle shot is awesome for longshots. It makes the ball fly without spinning and they generally look very fast, powerful and with a very linear trajectory. Pretty efficient when in front of goal.
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    >>586223289
    >I genuinely don't notice any difference with it on or off in my testing.
    Really? None at all? That said, heel tricks are pretty good, ESPECIALLY on 19.
    >>
    >>586223289
    >Long Throw
    Possibly THE most #1 useless card that no one has ever picked outside of maybe their first tournament when they were first learning the game. Like, theoretically it's not a bad card, but since we have card limits and there's no way to designate who is taking the throw-in, it's genuinely a useless waste of a card slot
    >GK Long Throw
    Goalkeeper card, goalkeeper throws the ball a long ass distance. Either increases the amount they do this or increases the accuracy of the throw.
    >Man Marking
    Makes the player stick closer to the man they're marking while on defense
    >Track Back
    A mini-gegenpress like effect where, if a player is near the opposing team when they have the ball, they will rush them and try to steal back the ball
    >Acrobatic Clear
    Defense card where they basically do a bicycle kick to clear a ball out. Very useful on 17, questionable use on 19, doesn't seem to activate as often
    >Captaincy
    Put it on your captain, gives the whole team a buff. Doesn't apply to anyone but the actual team designated captain
    >Super-sub
    Activates during/after half-time, players get a boost to stats if they're subbed in during/after half-time (No you don't need to wait until 65 minutes, that's just an arbitrary number that most people take their subs at)
    >Fighting Spirit
    Reduces stamina consumption
    >Chip Shot
    A shot that's meant to chip it over the goalkeeper's head when they come out too much during a 1v1
    >Dipping Shot
    A shot that starts by rising, but then dips into the near the ground before it goes into the goal
    >Rising Shots
    A shot that rises, usually directed into the corner of the net. Sounds good but doesn't activate much, and some people think it leads to overshooting it and skying it over the crossbar
    >High Punt Trajectory
    Goalkeeper card. Opposite of Low Punt Trajectory. Sends the ball very high into the air on punts.

    >>586223763
    Others can chime in but I found they do heel tricks just as often without the card as they do with it. Idk what it does.
    >>
    >>586223289
    >>586223978
    >Penalty Specialist
    Gives a bonus +10 to stats during penalty kicks (not sure if it does this for ERA penals, but you definitely see the +10 stats on the benuldys screen)
    >GK Penalty Specialist
    Assumingly the same thing as penalty specialist but just for the goalkeeper and increasing his chance to save the penalties. Basically a no-brainer card pick.
    >Interception
    Increases the chance of a player intercepting the ball. Most teams run this card on nearly everyone in the midfield and defense because, well, it's fucking called interception, why wouldn't you want more interceptions? Of course you might want to consider the potential downsides though of a CB or DMF overcommitting to try and make an interception but failing, leaving the defense wide open.
    >Malicia
    Only trick card I'm going to discuss. It makes your players dive more often. Diving just means they fake being injured to try and get a call from the ref. The usual tell-tale animation for this is during a foul replay a player will grab his face and fall over like he was just elbowed. This can sometimes backfire though and the ref can sometimes see through those bullshit faked injury attempts and give that player a yellow card for attempting to fake an injury. Put this on your player because it's funny when it works and even funnier when it doesn't work and the ref calls the player out for bullshitting
    >The rest of the trick cards
    Look up a youtube video. Just type in <name of trick card> PES. Even if some PES mobile videos or something come up they're basically always the same across every PES version.

    And that should do it. I'm sure some managers will disagree with a few of the card descriptions not being entirely accurate because everyone believes in their own voodoo, but that should be a basic comprehensible rundown of what most of the skill cards actually do.
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    >>586223289
    >>586223978
    >>586224446
    Thanks
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    >>586223289
    >>586223978
    >>586224446
    Thanks, these do actually help quite a bit. If you put multiple different types of shot cards on a striker (say dipping and rising) does it give the ai a retard moment and seize up on which to use? Or does spamming shot cards just give it more options to actually score
    >>
    >>586234239
    I think the latter, they still activate pretty rarely
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    >>586234239
    Plus you'll need to take into account that those are for different situations. Some for free kicks, some for 1v1s, some for longshots.
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    >>586234239
    >does it give the ai a retard moment and seize up on which to use?
    Anon who did the 3 post rundown here,
    Not as far as I've noticed, but it's hard to say.
    Especially since the striker AI is ALWAYS having a fucking retard moment on 19.

    I know the reigning champion 3 star fox PES merchant himself recently chimed in and said 19 strikers are only second to 16 strikers in terms of accuracy, and I don't doubt that 3 star wisdom.

    But accuracy isn't the problem with 19 strikers. You will not have to worry about putting too many shooting cards on your strikers. Hell, it could even be the more the merrier.
    19 strikers have this unique refusal to shoot the fucking ball. I even saw during friendlies (i think it was during a /dbg/ friendly match) some fan in the chat screaming and asking why their team won't just won't shoot the damn ball when they get close to the box. Even the casual fans can notice it.

    Aside from the fact they won't shoot the ball though, they probably have the least dribbling skills out of any strikers in any PES.
    I challenge anyone to find me a PES version (in the modern 15+ era) where the strikers have worse dribbling skills than PES19.
    These dudes absolutely can not handle the first sight of a CB, just runs right into them or gets dispossessed immediately.
    Even PES21 with all of its issues has better striker AI than 19.
    Maybe you'll get lucky with the classic Double Touch juke around the box, but that's about the extent of their power.
    >>
    >>586235356
    Thanks a bunch
    >But accuracy isn't the problem with 19 strikers.
    >check my last 3 games
    >9(3)
    >10(2)
    >8(1)
    I must be doing something VERY wrong then
    >>
    >>586237057
    Yeah those are some crazy stats to be getting 3 times in a row.
    If you want to peek into the mind of some voodoo manager shit, try replacing your SYSTEM00000000 file with the default one from the wiki/announcements again when you start getting horrendous RNG like that.

    Not like the streamer is gonna replace his system file often like you would be doing, but every PES is personalized as they say.
    It also doesn't guarantee anything will change, it's just straight up manager voodoo.

    But when your team starts getting shit on non-stop for multiple hours all of a sudden during testing even though you changed nothing,
    That's when you start trying out and believing in that manager voodoo shit.
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    >>586172478
    Needs Kyot and Essex too.
    >>
    Do I fix shit that's broken, or install zzz
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    >>586244182
    stop being a lazy fuck
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    >>586247579
    myake mye nyou fyaggyot
    >>
    >>586248281
    can you speak without a dick in your mouth?
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    >>586248312
    nyo
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    wow, it's the cuck language
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    >>586254741
    i look like this
    >>
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH THERES A FUCKING SKELETON ON THE SCREEN GET IT OFF GET IT OFF GET IT OFF
    >>
    >>586259051
    Calm down, there is one inside you as well.
    >>
    >>586260926
    I did NOT consent to that
    >>
    spooning with fazoo
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    >>586172478
    zoer wife
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    >>586261590
    idiot...
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    >>586263393
    Anal
    Oral
    Vaginal
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    >>586238217
    If it happens again I’ll try that, I just closed the game out of frustration after the 3rd game. My pes also LOVES giving the opponent a 45+ and 90+ to let the opponent go 2-1 or 2-2 (but if /myteam/ gets the ball in extra time to the opponents side of the pitch on a clear run for an attack, INSTANT whistle blow), is that just 19 or my pes hating me?
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    >>586235356
    >I know the reigning champion 3 star fox PES merchant himself recently chimed in and said 19 strikers are only second to 16 strikers in terms of accuracy
    As you said this is only because 19 strikers are probably the most risk averse of any striker. If we're talking overall chance accuracy I'd say they're actually the worst lol. Like yeah I'd look accurate too if half of my missed chances were just running into the keeper instead of wide.
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    holy fucking dimes chowayo on the 'tube
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    Trans MTF
    Silly Little Shy KittyGirl UwU
    Poly >v<
    Pansexual
    One Piece Fan!!! Ep 890 btw w
    GD Player! Hardest: Bloodbath :3
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    Amber BFF
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    Silver's Younger Sister Konopki's Younger Sister
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    >>586276214
    'cows for this feel?
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    >>586275021
    Dreyse&Mauser
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    >>586276317
    do I even have to say it?
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    VGH... So many dimes... VGL could never
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    OnlyFans Mom Realizes Cops Found Her Mummified 7-Month-Old
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    >>586276330
    I'd love to own an original Dreyse or Mauser
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    >>586277372
    Based. Doro exit gates too. And skeletom camera guy.
    >>586261243
    Didn't consent to living either, when you think about it...
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    Where were you when persona 1 remake got leaked
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    >>586282537
    huh?
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    >>586282616
    https://youtu.be/PGIkbY2n_y4
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    >>586282616
    https://gofile.io/d/OrQJllZv
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    >>586282671
    >>586282758
    this is how /pg/ gets a P1-P5 protag medal lineup
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    doroshit
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    >>586292169
    fuck you I want it to die because this split is retarded
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    >>586292768
    Never!
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    >>586292768
    4cc is not vgl, vgl is objectively bigger than 4cc nowadays
    we've got our own things to discuss, they have theirs
    you can just let the thread die off-season, nothing's gonna happen
    >>
    >>586293402
    there is literally nothing to discuss for weeks this is just made for spite against vgl discussion
    >>
    >>586293868
    >there is literally nothing to discuss for weeks
    so just don't come here lol
    >>
    >>586292768
    I think the split is good for during 4cc cups. In the off-season I don't mind the mixed talk.
    >>
    >>586294171
    Why did this thread get made?
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    >>586294654
    Where else would I get my softcore porn of fat bitches?
    >>
    >>586294654
    because some 4ccfag got angry that VGL signups generate more discussion than the cup which is currently liv.
    >>
    >>586293402
    this thread was made by a seething 4ccfag because vgl discussion was dominating /4ccg/ even though this always happens when 4cc games are not currently occurring. conveniently the thread was made right before the weekend's games started when the 4cc would actually be able to talk about things.
    >>
    >>586295178
    More specifically, we were talking about the team confirmations/culling which was actually happening at the time. But then some spastic niggers got upset that we were talking about that instead of the 4cc matches that were up to a day away from starting. So they made this thread and then the other one.
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    >>586294654
    So we can sign up for the VGL
    >>
    >>586295831
    This, this is the real reason. SIGN UP NYOW, THEY'RE WAITING FOR US IN PARTICULAR
    >>
    How will /4ccg/ survive offseson without VGL discussion?
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    >>586296791
    It doesn't need to be on the board 24/7 desu
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    >>586296791
    they'll just not make one lol, it doesn't need to be there if there's nothing to discuss
    you're genuinely gacha-brainrotten
    >>
    >>586297072
    >>586297190
    So you want to see /4ccg/ dead
    >>
    >>586297556
    yes, actually.
    >>
    >>586297556
    I want to see this entire board dead.
    Kill generals. Behead generals. Roundhouse kick generals into the concrete. Slam dunk generals into the /trash/can.
    >>
    >>586297556
    If they're petty enough for a split then they can go back to their own boards and discuss it there.
    >>
    >>586297902
    You know very well that's a non-argument because 4cc threads are not allowed on other boards, so stop making it
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    >>586297634
    >>586297816
    It dies the second you close the thread, you know.
    >>
    >>586298159
    nyo
    >>586298040
    go to the /mlp/ one then, they don't ban non-pony content.
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    we NEED an emergency /vglg/ caretaker
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    >>586298292
    >implying I'm not already there ^:)
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    >>586298343
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    >>586298292
    If you hate a thread, don't go to it? It only occupies as much headspace as you allow it to.
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    >>586298957
    I want to stay up to date with the 4CC but don't care about all the VGL drama at all
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    >>586299131
    Have you tried ignoring things you're not interested in? You can even try using filters if you really feel the need to.
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    >>586298040
    Then that's their problem, I wasn't the one petty enough to start this split drama in the first place.
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    4cc has so many high quality commentators bros... how do we get there?
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    >>586304864
    I am a high-quality VGL commentator though.
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    >>586304923
    'kento...
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    >>586307603
    Perlica is NOT that fat
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    >>586268525
    It's fucking annoying to watch/test a game only to see my strikers do everything but shoot the ball when they're close or inside the box. No amount of pixel autism seems to work too.
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    >>586309849
    Every once in a while you do get something like this where the offense is suddenly all awake and juiced up which makes you question if whether it was your tictacs or just the AI who's the problem.
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    >>586310578
    Yeah there's like 5% of PES19 games that just devolve into the most disgusting one sided games
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    >>586310932
    >5%
    those are rookie numbers
    probably closer to 15% at least
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    someone did "advertise" divegrass in /dlg/ and currently it's on like 2 positive (including mine), 1 negative, 1 "positive to spite the negative"
    the post got quickly drowned in (SHOCKING) game discussion
    naturally, no bees
    yeah, I don't think it's happening
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    >>586311373
    Unless there are other generals that are being quiet about their plans to participate, I don't think we'll be getting any new ones.
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    >>586311373
    >Are you one of the 4cc lifers that are here just to usurp a general and have another team?
    I think this garbage shouldn't be allowed at all. It's just a discord competition that uses 4chan for publicity.
    >I'm very much against a dlg team. As I am with every general I'm involved in.
    Especially this one general which is kind of siloed from the rest of /vg/. I'd prefer it stays that way.
    trvke
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    >>586276214
    New /fng/ roster looking good.
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    >>586311373
    >>586312351
    >soulless dogshit game has a soulless dogshit fanbase
    say it aint so
    >>
    >team creates great chances
    >but everything falls apart when theyre in the opposing box
    i really don't know what to do, everything ive tried has failed to fix this, i feel like a fucking vgl auto would do better than whatever i do at this rate
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    www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3FJePrGZb8
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    >>586317976
    I threw my entire attacking instructions around and moved all the players more in the box with pixel autism.
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    Who seems likely enough to steal 52nd?
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    >>586320228
    if >>586207356 is right then /trg/ may try
    if >>586311373 is right then we're not getting /dlg/ this time
    Haru really doesn't seem interested in signing up /snowg/
    I just did a quick archive search and I'm not getting any new results either
    5th place fetus playoffs are likely
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    >>586320856
    I mean its almost impossible to get a new team poi after signups in the current vgl era. Outside interference plays too big of a role now. You have to do things way in advance now when less eyes are looking
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    >>586313118
    it's a cool game and the general just needs their own /wuwa/cutie to BEE and prove that it's possible. This is the next real game big market AND the next pet team.
    You already have 4 new gachas in line for 2027.
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    >>586322539
    You'd have to be some obscure general to do it in current era and the only ones that met that criteria since X-2 are /esg/, /omg/, and maybe /1992/.
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    >>586323245
    /sora/?
    /snowg/?
    /hbr/?
    /mmcg/?
    I'd argue that even /fng/ was kinda obscure because most people wouldn't expect THE zoomer game to hold any ground here
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    >>586323245
    /1999/ talked about forming a team for months and /esg/ and /omg/ were made by people that have been in the system for awhile. Random newcuties like the wuwa guy are a rare exception these days. I think /smbg/ was the last time we got a kind of late planned signup by a new person.
    >>586323725
    All those were planned in advance and all 4 were made by people who had been around for awhile. It's interesting, but nothing that was decided late
    >>
    Should have submitted a Deadlock team for DBC.
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    >>586323963
    It had been so long since /1999/ first talked about having a team my co-manager was still firmly a manager and he has been gone for about 2 years now.
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    >>586324404
    Not saying this is the reason /1999/ took so long but I feel like 2d game gens are less likely to try to get into divegrass these days
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    Call up Zil to bring back /rsg/
    >>
    >>586323963
    >>586324404
    From what I remember, /1992/ always had someone who always talked about forming a team but never actually asked their general or BEE'd. Nobody expected somebody else to actually pull the trigger and join NTC.
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    >>586324669
    it was that but also the good ol' "someone please make the team, no i won't i just wanna watch it" until Sangen stepped up.
    but it's not the rule, nope. Flesia learned Blender from scratch and made /trick/ which is also a 2D game.
    Gachafags are just genuinely mindbroken by Mihoyo who's the new standard. If you're not 3D you're outdated.
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    >>586325010
    I guess it depends on what kind of 2D game you are. Something like /trick/ is far easier to try and make something for than you would say with /1999/ unless you're willing to compromise hard.
    >If you're not 3D you're outdated
    It's true to some degree. Most teams nowadays use either FBM kits or at the very least ph-kun with anime heads so being the only team with 11 cardheads will seem out of place. It also doesn't help that the average viewer cares more about aes than anything so a team like that will immediately be seen as low-effort even if the team never had a choice.
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    >>586325894
    >even if the team never had a choice.
    The choice was to make it from scratch, even if it involves learning.
    People do that.
    If you cared about your general you would've already done that.
    Cardheads in this day and age are not even 4CC-core, they're just joke league territory.
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    >>586326960
    >Cardheads in this day and age are not even 4CC-core
    >/qst/ and /wsr/ are full of them
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    >>586327181
    so they're even lower than the standard.
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    >>586327285
    I think both boards can kind of get away with them a little bit.
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    >>586327181
    They're new teams who only had like a month to learn things and scrounge up something. They will improve in the future.
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    >>586323725
    >I'd argue that even /fng/ was kinda obscure because most people wouldn't expect THE zoomer game to hold any ground here
    /fng/ was a long running gag of "what if?" and than it finally happened. It's easy to forget that given the team has performed above okay.
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    i haven't refreshed this page in hours and every new 4chan page is spooky
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    My co has bruising on her belly, and she's saying it's because she fell. How is that possible to get a bruise on your stomach from falling?
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    >>586331551
    your co is a fat man.
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