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    Ultra Vegeta 2 Edition

    - Gekishin Squadra is getting a major overhaul
    - Xenoverse 3 announced and delayed to late 2027
    - Xenoverse 2 final DLC is out
    - Dragon Ball Super: Beerus anime premiered
    - FighterZ new balance update is out

    • XENOVERSE 3 - TGS TRAILER
    https://youtu.be/XIAhLfXH64U

    • XENOVERSE 2 - FUTURE SAGA CH4 LAUNCH TRAILER
    https://youtu.be/DFWpzSFTJco

    • SPARKING ZERO - SUPER LIMIT BREAKING NEO DLC SHOWCASE
    https://youtu.be/-yVuL6K1oMI

    • GEKISHIN SQUADRA - SSGSS GOKU
    https://youtu.be/BeHCaK_T6cs

    • KAKAROT - DAIMA PT2 LAUNCH TRAILER
    https://youtu.be/ZY6OAh_7KYw

    >Useful links:
    https://rentry.org/dft79

    XV2 news:
    >Future Saga Chapter 4 is out

    SDBH News/Resources:
    >SDBH has ended...We are all Heroes! RIP 05/09/24
    >SDBH Database: https://www.carddass.com/dbh/sdbh_mm/cardlist/
    >Deck Autism: https://rentry.org/sdbhdecklist

    DBSDV news:
    >The 11th set has released
    >God Rares: SSB Goku, SSB Vegetto, Corrupted Zamasu, Beast Gohan, Orange Piccolo, Cell Max, Xeno Vegeta, SS3 Xeno Bardock
    >Reflect Break Cards: SSG Goku, Ultimate Gohan, SSR Trunks, Piccolo, Whis
    >Modes based on Goku Black and DBS Superhero arcs
    >2nd Anniversary soon
    >Card List: https://www.dbsdv.com/cardlist/?series=598010

    >HOW TO FIND YOUR XENOVERSE 2 SAVE ON STEAM guide:
    steam > userdata > [your steam id] > 323470 > remote > DBXV21
    DBXV2.sav should be there, which is your savefile
    If you wish to delete it to try reimporting or for other reasons, disable steamcloud on both Xenoverse 1 and 2 first.

    Kakarot news:
    >Daima DLC Pt2 launched on January 15th

    The Breakers news:
    >Season 9 launched with DBZ Broly Raider

    >XV Booru: Upload drawfaggotry here
    http://xenoverse.booru.org/

    Rest in Peace, Akira Toriyama (3/1/2024)
    Thank you

    LAST TIME ON /dbg/: >>585539348
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    >>585940946
    The real Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta.
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    >>585941220
    >>585941002
    You are arguing that Frieza destroyed the Sayains and then Beerus came up to Frieza to tell Frieza to destroy the Sayians?
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    >>585941381
    Again, Beerus doesn't even come up in Minus; Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan God, yes, Beerus, no. This was an idea he makes up all on his own.
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    Beerus also claims he wiped out all dinosaurs on earth. either he has a bad memory, or he likes bullshitting
    or more accurately, Toriyama forgot
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    Art's fine but the 4th wall breaking humor not so much
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    >>585942727
    They just tried to come up with something that would make it feel like Beerus was there so long ago so they went with "errm.. dinosaurs idk". It's a silly joke with no real implications
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    >>585945863
    Toriyama shows up in the Buu saga
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    >>585942038
    But Beerus in all version of BoG so far says he told Frieza to kill the Sayians.
    I don't think anybody claimed Minus said this.
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    >>585947717
    Difference being that Toriyama being there isn't the joke and more the *result* of a joke. When it comes to DBM, all of their comedy is either shitty references or 4th wall breaking.
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    >>585948567
    But Toriyama being there is the result of a 4th wall breaking joke by Krillin
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    >>585942727
    >Beerus also claims he wiped out all dinosaurs on earth.
    The movie's extended version had a dinosaur showing up when Goku and Beerus were fighting on Earth, so that's even funnier.
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    >>585948746
    The joke is that Goten and Trunks have to fuse again and again because of their failures, and the dance panels are the same so the conclusion feels natural and earned. It's not "hey, aren't the Dragon Ball characters dumb for fighting 1v1? Lmao, have you been reading the online forums this time too?"
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    >>585948892
    Dragon Ball characters don't honorably 1v1 for the 1v1s sake, barring the Buu saga which is generally not very good, and Ginyu force also does it, but we are supposed to think they are retarded faggots so...
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    >>585948238
    And Beerus telling Freeza to do that is irrelevant to Freeza's own thoughts on the matter. Freeza is presented as plotting to do this on his own. Like if your boss came down and told you to fire the HR department when you were already planning to fire the entire HR department.
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    >>585949380
    I don't know how you can say that when we can't know that. We don't have Frieza's internal monolog, and we don't know if Beerus said that to him before or after Frieza gathered all the Sayians.
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    >>585949828
    I can point to this >>585942038 as the only actual statement on the matter. Freeza doesn't mention Beerus, he doesn't have an internal monologue about Beerus, there's only his own plot to kill all the Saiyans because of the reasons he verbally outlined. If you have something to the contrary to show he was doing this BECAUSE of Beerus that isn't speculative, I'd certainly like to see it.
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    Supa Begita Suri
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    >>585949236
    That's besides the point, you should be able to write a story beyond cheap 4th wall shit
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    >finally decided to watch the squadra Livestream
    People weren't kidding when they said toshi was holding back tears. That was a very painful stream to watch
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    >>585942727
    >>585948782
    Toriyama definitely forgot dinos were still alive, but I guess you could easily wave it off by having some rando wish the dinosaurs back ages ago.
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    >>585955813
    >some rando
    Arale saved the dinosaurs, it's established in Dr. Slump
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    >>585949380
    >>585949828
    >>585951210
    Xenoverse 2 backs up "Frieza was going to do it anyway" when he says as much to Beerus
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    >>585951210
    >Beerus told Frieza that and it had no effect on him
    That is also speculative, but even Golden Freiza is scared of Beerus.
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    >>585956538
    You're losing the plot here anon. Occam's razor this: do we go off of purely speculative assumptions on Freeza's internal thought process about Beerus and him taking orders, or do we take the statements as presented? Because Freeza being scared of Beerus can coexist with him wanting to kill the Saiyans for his own reasons, ones he outlined himself verbally mind you. I can again use the example of your boss telling you to fire the HR department when you were already planning to do that; being scared of your boss firing you on a whim doesn't suddenly make that original idea you had vanish into the ether like it never existed.
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    >>585957613
    No the motive doesn't vanish, but I think occam's razor, dictates that, Beerus coming to Frieza during his plan to eradicate the Sayains would be an insane coincidence, especially in Broly which is also Toriyama's work and more recent, removes the 1 month time skip.
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    >>585959114
    That's not what Occam's razor is, anon. The theory that makes the least amount of assumptions about the facts presented is the preferred one; it's nothing about coincidences. You keep trying to add in more speculation about the thought processes of those involved, especially Freeza, when the more simple theory is the one that takes the statements as they're presented.
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    >>585959768
    It is an assumption that Beerus talked to Frieza after Frieza was killing the Saiyans.
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    >>585959768
    >>585960362
    By the way this is all denying the line BoG meaning, you are saying it had no effect on anything, and the only way it effects perception is to give many members of the audience a wrong interpretation, that gets cleared up by a special issue of a diffrent manga that comes out 1 year later.
    The line is a bad line, and shouldn't have been put in right?
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    >do vegeta raid
    >suddenly connection was lost
    >with 30 seconds remaining
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    Did the custom mentors get buffed or is it just a visual thing? some don't feel stronger but their stats *look* better
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEYdWTPbXu4

    They put the cut dialogue into a whole ass trailer why is this franchise so poorly managed? No doubt this was meant to reveal xenoverse 3 properly before time mismanagement fucked their plans
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    >this guy was aparently one of Freeza's strongest men left before RoF, he found a super dragon ball by chance only to encounter Champa stealing it and destroying him, this makes Sorbet give up and go for the suicidal plan of going to Earth to use their dragon balls, which ends up with Freeza's resurrection, all thanks to Champa, connecting all three stories together (Beerus-RoF-Champa)
    This was actually cool, it's a shame the anime will almost certainly not add him
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    >>585960362
    >>585961119
    Do you know the difference between "the least" and "no" assumptions? A theory needs to make some because otherwise it'd be a simple fact that you can look up, like Freeza saying he wants to kill the Saiyans. You're presenting a theory that's making more assumptions about the intentions of the characters based on the facts presented than what was outlined. Do we need to go into the differences between Watsonian vs. Doylist narrative readings too? Because based on what you're fixating on here I can see where you're leaning, though incompletely.
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    >>585862268
    I hate it but I don't care enough about the Dragon Ball Super manga to seethe about it even if the writing is questionable, and author has to do a lot of mental gymnastics/gaslighting to rehabilitate Bardock. I do think however that Toriyama has this tendency to either overexplain himself on subject matters no one asked for which makes the characters and the world more boring or he has this tendency to overcorrect himself which trivializes other characters like Goku.

    Speaking of, why DOES Goku need to exactly learn about his parents? He never gave them a single thought in the original manga and has never sat down to truly think about Bardock and Gine for over 30 years since the concept of the Saiyans were introduced. Goku isn't like Naruto whose character is actually defined by bonds and his yearning for a family he never had. And Goku's character is just fine the way it is; he has a flat character arc. Goku doesn't change because he has a solid understanding on who he is, what he likes and his place in the world. Part of what makes Goku a good character is that while he changes other characters and prompts life changing events in Piccolo, Gohan and Vegeta, Goku himself doesn't change or has any life changing events. What does learning about Bardock and Gine add to Goku's character that he doesn't already have? He already came to terms with his Saiyan heritage back on Namek.
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    >>585978440
    >I do think however that Toriyama has this tendency to either overexplain himself on subject matters no one asked for
    That's not Toriyama at all.
    >Speaking of, why DOES Goku need to exactly learn about his parents?
    Because they had a cute goodbye in DBS Broly and Minus and it's a shame if you do nothing with it. I don't like how Toyotaro did it tho.
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    Bump
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    What don't you like about Xenoverse 3?
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    >>585946513
    I just think XXI is hyper lame. His thing is he just wishes for a way to defeat people and just. Gets away with it? Like he just wins?
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    >>585978440
    >Goku doesn't change because he has a solid understanding on who he is, what he likes and his place in the world.
    Tbf, there was that weird bit at the end of Cell saga but that just kind of got undone
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    >>585986801
    >supposed to be a "whole new world of Dragon Ball" but it's only West City
    >Androids as a race but no Demons, and they rub it in our faces by giving the demons a whole new OC form
    >seemingly no Toriyama-made Frieza OC
    >graphically underwhelming, looks passible for a Xenoverse sequel, but very basic looking models, mid expressions, and subpar visual effects. Besides a few correct colors here and there, feels more like every other dragon ball game and not something you would think Toriyama had a hand in, like Sandland or DQ
    >literally all the villains we've seen so far are robots and AI versions of DB characters, very much like the Xenoverse franchise to be this lame compared to what Heroes and DBO offered but there's still time to show off more
    >adding on to that they doubled down on how soulless the mentors felt in the other DBXVs by making them digitized souls or some shit
    >explosions still feel like wet farts, especially for the ultimate attacks, you'll be firing the biggest kamehameha ever and it looks like a small gust of blue smoke
    >generic sci-fi HUD
    >SS3 hair is just a Goku recycle
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    >>585986801
    When AGE 1000 first got revealed I knew it was going to be XV3 but I was hoping I was wrong and it was actually an offline, ARPG reboot/remake of DBO with Kakarot tier animations.

    Every time I see new XV stuff, it makes me wish we had got that instead and after the last batch of videos I'm hoping they take another 3 or 4 years to restart development one more time and give us that.
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    >>585987886
    Anon I think it's beyond wishful thinking to assume that they're going to drop everything they've made so far and entirely redo the game into being something else after revealing it. Redoing games like that tends to lend to shit products, anyway.
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    >>585942038
    God this dialog is so fucking bad
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    >>585986801
    The latest build looked uglier than the previous one for some reason
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    >>585986801
    >>585989242
    Oh and Freeza Race getting hit with the 'Purification' curse the Majins had.
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    >>585989368
    I think it's a better version of it. It still has the old guy's face.
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    Favorite Z movie?
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    DESU you can probably make any Z movie look good if you're just picking out the choice bits of cool animation. I always thought lord slug was on the weaker side simply because slug himself isn't really much of a fun or interesting villian. His choreography isn't really all that fun or inventive compared to stuff like Cooler or Turles. I personally got to give it to Cooler, in my opinion. Toei just does a lot of fun stuff like piccolo's arm chasing the guy through the trees and all of the wacky angles against 5th form cooler.
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    >>585990140
    I don't care, it's SHIT.
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    >>585989368
    Blame Cooler and Frost for barely even changing up the look. Maybe you'll get a Fourth Form at some point. lol
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    >>585991512
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    >>585991873
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    >>585992227
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    >>585991820
    I don't mind the characters looking alike, I mind wasting a transformation slot out of 3 on purification-lite with none of the lore appeal. And we're guaranteed that another spot will be taken by 100% form and it'll again just be Purification but with 100% Freeza instead.
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    >>585992526
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    >>585990092
    Is she the protagonist?
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    >>586001478
    Would be funny
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjax6GvY3bE
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    >>586003805
    Looks cool
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    >>586003805
    >3 chads
    >1 literalwho
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    >>585971941
    Sure if we pretend all assumptions are equally valid and we are pretending not to know what an implication is, we can say that.
    But "this character is lying/wrong" is always one assumption, while attempting mesh what they said with the actions on panel, requiries at least one if not two.
    This all could have ended several hours earlier if you were just going to say "No Beerus didn't tell Frieza to destroy the Sayians while the Sayians existed."
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    >>585991820
    It is mostly Cooler's fault, Frost is doing what cooler did. Cooler is very popular, standing head and shoulders above all Toei characters except Broly and *maybe* 13, so when making Frost you have Freiza and Cooler to go off and they can both transform 1st-4th form. Cold and Chilled just don't have the presence to stop this misinterpretation.
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    >>585990737
    I like how out of all the bizarre interpretations Toei spawned, the one that didn't stick was Goku killing minions, when that is at least debatably in character
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    >>586018590
    but he killed Yakon
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    >>586003805
    Holy shit what the fuck? This already mogs the last Jump game
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    >>586019207
    That didn't permiate through the fandom discourse. That one time with the Ginyu force did.
    Keep in mind that most fans have seen less than half of the sagas and in the Dub version, which intentionally mistranslates character moments.
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    SSJ4 as front and center before UI
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    >>586019207
    Yakon killed himself with his greed, he could have stopped at any moment.
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    >>586021241
    No, Goku killed Yakon by going SSJ2, which kills Yakon before they can react, which Goku seemed to understand as what would happen.
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    >>586020326
    >most fans have seen less than half of the sagas and in the Dub version, which intentionally mistranslates character moments
    Amerikeks are so embarrassing. No, thank god you guys aren't "most fans"
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    >>586021673
    Goku was feeding Yakon because Yakon wanted his energy. It was his own decision to do that and so it was his fault he bit more than he could chew.
    "Huh but Goku did give him a lot to chew!" isn't an argument, his hands are clean here.
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    >>586021116
    And here people thought they would put it in BoG to get oneshot by Beerus. I wish this fanbase understood that DB functions on marketing the newest thing
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    >>586021116
    Nice; Path to Power Goku
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    >>586022983
    Yakon didn't know what SSJ2 was. You just said Yakon could have stopped at any time, what happened to that.
    >so it was his fault he bit more than he could chew.
    Litteraly Goku's fault and descion to not even warn them that there is a level beyond SSJ1.
    Krillin once asked Goku to not hold anything back, if Goku used his technique that makes him invisible, uppercut Krillin before launching a hot end forward Kamehameha melting Krillin. That would still be Goku killing Krillin, that's why Goku didn't do that.
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    >>586017774
    >and *maybe* 13
    I don't really think super android 13 is that popular at all is he? Turles is more popular than him given all the stuff he got in heroes
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    Yakon was a demon anyways. He had no human rights.
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    >>586025036
    DAIMA DID WHAT!?
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    >>586025036
    I thought he was an alien like pui pui
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    >>586025036
    This isn't a moral issue
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    >>586024406
    Well 13 is definitely 3rd-5th most popular Toei character here in the west. I suppose it's a cultural fanbase split.
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    >>586027201
    I still really do not think he's all that popular. Like I think he's in the top 5, but in the way that there's an extremely large powergap between Broly, Cooler, Turles and then everyone else
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    >>586027296
    I think 13 whoops Turles ass over here. I would argue; Broly (power gap) Cooler/Baby (power gap) 13/Omega Shenron (power gap) everybody else.
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    >>586003805
    >random mirko in the middle
    i see OUR MODDER has taste
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    >>586027646
    I just haven't seen that much that would imply 13's all that popular over here. You got the 13 dollar haircut meme and him punching goku's balls, but like as a VILLIAN in his totality I don't see people using him much. Over in the fanfic space turles is hyper common to see but I basically never see 13 around
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    >>586027865
    Dragonball fans can't read Dragonball, the amount of DB fans reading fanworks isn't going to move the needle.
    DB Youtubers popular with normalfag fans, always seem confused on why Turles keeps showing up.
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    >>586028303
    >>586027646
    >>586027865
    Bardock!? Hello? Bardock was made by Toei and Toriyama put him in the manga after.
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    >>586030056
    I was just thinking of movie villians only, desu.
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    >>586030165
    Well the word Toei character was what was said
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    >>586030581
    yeah and when I think of that I think of the movie characters or gregory, bardock is technically a toei character but he also just outright shows up in the manga
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    >>586032158
    He's a character made for a TV special, you wouldn't consider Broly not Toei character just because Toriyama adopted him after the fact.
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    >>586032551
    Super broly's a whole ass different character from z broly, tho. Also this has nothing to do with how objectively bardock is a toei character or not, I simply don't think of him in the same breadth as I think of movie characters/ gregory.
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    >>586027201
    >>586027296
    I'd argue Toei villains popularity is something like Broly > (Power gap) Cooler/Turles > (Power gap) Janemba > (Power gap) 13. And the only reason you can even argue 13 stands above the rest is both because the other villains are all super forgettable and don't have any memes surrouding them (30$ haircut, him punching Goku's balls), because nobody really cares about his character, since there's barely any. I wish I could say Wheelo is more popular than 13, but the memes surrounding 13 do give him a lot of relevance. Plus 13 tends to have more presence in video games...
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    >>586032678
    I mean like Bardock is no more of a Dragon Ball (Manga) character, than Arale is.
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    >>586033758
    Again, objectively the bardock people care about is a toei character, I just don't catalogue him in my mind with all the other toei characters because he's more directly canon to the original work.
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    >>586033335
    When we are talking about popularity it doesn't matter if they truely care about the character or not, do you understand the level of understand normal fag westerners opperate on with Goku, Gohan and Vegeta? It's bad.
    I think you are corrupted by your niche part of the Dragon Ball fan base. Western commentators reacting to roster releases and shit, usually are confused by Turles when he gets preferential treatment over other Movie villians, I think normal westerns think of Slug more than Turles, but once you are at that level it is really hard to tell. Garlic Jr, Wheelo, Turles, Slug are all in a desperate struggle for second to last place while Hirudegarn easily secures last place.
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    >>586035546
    I feel like garlic junior gets a boost because of black water mist. no one LIKES black water mist but its infamy at least means people think about garlic more than they do slug
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    >>586036318
    Bros, I can't believe Bandages won over Beerus, Goku, Vegeta, and Broly...
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    It's hip to fuck bees
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    >>586042829
    >Pan, for being our Queen for 100 years, we grant you the right to use our Monmaasu Dragon Balls!
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    >>586044472
    100 year old Pan would be too much a hag for me. In fact, we should shave her down 3-4 years from her GT self.
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    Dragon Ball fans be normal. Challenge Level: Impossible
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    Compared to the width of their torso's, Piccolo's last three children actually have similar limb proportions. So if they are born children and then aged, they would be normally proportioed in that department the problem (not named Tambourine) is that their heads, Piccolo Jrs head is the only part of his body that gets proportionally smaller so they would have little tiny baby heads.
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    Pan is middling. You just have nostalgia.
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    Attraction is subjective
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    Objectively, there's nothing attractive about Goku.
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    >>586066060
    Wrong
    >>586066307
    Correct
    >>586066970
    Wrong
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    I'm right.
    Goku? Unappealing.
    His hair? Messy.
    His body? Ugly.
    His drip? Unfashionable.
    His personality? Wack.
    His height? Asian.
    His penis? Tiny.
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    >>586066970
    Goku is a powerful, confident, and in shape. These are traits aggregate human females desire strongly.
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    >>586067726
    he's not much of a romantic, and tends to be away from home for very long periods of time. Physically I feel like women would be into him but Goku is NOT husband material
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    You will NEVER have Goku
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    >>586067835
    Statement was not "Goku is not the ideal" statement was "There is nothing attractive about Goku"
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    And there isn't. Goku? He STINKY.
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    >>586067835
    >he's not much of a romantic
    Not really a deal breaker, the bigger problem is how unsexual he is generally in anyway. The majority of women admit to rape fantasies.
    >and tends to be away from home for very long periods of time
    ....I guess the year on Yardrat... but Goku only leaves home after marrying Chichi because somebody (usually him) is dead.
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    https://forms.gle/Bd6sz3SwWEo1uraP6

    /dbg/ roster poll is still ongoing! vote for who you would like to see on the team!
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    Make sure to vote Goku OFF the team
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    >>586069157
    Goku will NEVER force himself on you foids. You'll have to force yourself onto him; and that will NEVER happen.
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    Did I not talk about women in third person
    Women don't use 4chan in large numbers anyway
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    Anyone know where to get a raw scan of Dragon Ball Resurrection F Manga?
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    >>586072578
    >Women don't use 4chan in large numbers anyway
    Most you get is /r9k/ if I'm not wrong.
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    >>586003805
    >official Jump game coming out
    >it's a moba
    >Gekishin Squadra is failing in real time and about to change its entire gameplay but they're still going through with this bullshit
    What's Bandai's problem. Seriously. What is stopping Bandai Namco from making a good Jump crossover game? Literally all they have to do is make it a fighting game and have good looking models and animations. They could even make it a gacha, it'd actually give them the window to shit out a bunch of characters and get more money. Why is this so hard for them?
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    >>586074978
    >Official Jump game coming out that's a MOBA
    Oh you poor soul. That game is going to be locked in China forever.
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    >>586075127
    >Chinese exclusive
    That's even more frustrating actually. China should know better. They usually emasculate Bandai with their anime games, why make a shitty MOBA gacha nobody's going to play and will die in 3 years when they could have made an ARPG or fighting game gacha? Not only would their primary consumer base eat that up, but you'd have foreigner money raining down and people begging on their needs for a global release.
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    >>586072578
    >>586074764
    I've seen them in other generals; they're nuts. One of them posted a pic of her panties stained with her period blood.
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    >>586075925
    What does "in large numbers" mean!?!?!?!?!!?
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    >>586076017
    at least, like. 7.
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    >>586076017
    I don't know, more than half? Like /lcg/?
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    >>586075925
    >they're nuts
    Well you have to be to frequent a male dominated, incel filled, shithole like 4chan. A man frequenting anywhere filled with femcels wouldn't be sane too.
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    >>586076467
    Speaking from experience?
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    >>586076612
    No, just saw screenshots. I was surprised to learn they have a counterpart to "slutty woman has a loose pussy", claiming men who have sex with a lot of women will have dicks with smaller girth because pussies squeeze dicks that hard. Aside from bogus stuff like that, femcels naturally are misandrists so any man interacting with them is probably not sane.
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    >>586077701
    nobody actually believes that, it's a shitpost.
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    >>586079140
    >Nobody actually believes in rosties
    >They just say it in their manifestos for fun
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    >>586079140
    >nobody actually believes that
    You overestimate people's intelligence. A lot of absolute retards out there.
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    >>586021116
    >they put the most recent Toriyama form from the most recent series right in the middle!
    Kay? Meanwhile I'm laughing my ass at how they put NINE fucking Gokus there and not a single one is from GT lmao, I guess the whole "let's erase every name that isn't Toriyama" also works here, they want to bury GT now Daima exists.
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    Shit, I forgot about the festival
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    This is the fate of all who defy the red ribbon army!!!
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    One thing I noticed that people aren't talking about
    The charater you copy your fighting style from to you during the battle , I saw Kefla chime in praising the CAC

    There are only 8 save slot just like xenoverse 2, however it's impossible now to have a file for each race and gender with the edition of the androids but if they introduce 2 more races you'll have a save slot for each race, other than the demon race I don't know what other race they could add,tho.

    All awokenings are 2 stagers now
    Earthlings have Kaioken x3 to Kaioken x20
    Saiyans have Super Saiyan to Super saiyan 3 omitting 2 entirely
    Namkikans have Power awakening and likly Orange
    Freizas have Final Form and 100 percent full power, we can see the transformation icon but nobody ever actually performed it on screen but some players say they managed to do it during their tests and it's just Freiza but buffer with your CAC's head on it.
    With this in mind what two tier awakenings could they have for the Majin race and the Android race , even Purfication doesn't make sense to give ot them unless it's turning the majin from Kid Buu to Super Buu
    Androids are a complete mystery
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    My majin vegeta finally came in the mail, I also SH Figuarts trunks and super vegeta, da! along with SSGSSE Vegeta!
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    >>586089061
    Hot
    >>586090956
    >One thing I noticed that people aren't talking about
    >The charater you copy your fighting style from to you during the battle , I saw Kefla chime in praising the CAC
    That's cool.
    >All awokenings are 2 stagers now
    I've seen people say 3 stages.
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    >>586091974
    Also got*, so excited I couldn't type right!
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    >>586091974
    Looks great.
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    >>586076467
    >male dominated, incel filled, shithole like 4chan.
    Got a problem with that, foid?
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    >>586092897
    Thank you, that's over $200 right there!
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    Universe 11 is in first place!?
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    >>586092998
    Damn.
    >>586093038
    Jiren decided to wake up in the final and is just stomping motherfuckers I guess.
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    >>586093038
    That point bonus is hard carrying, but u7 has over 8k players (on console)
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    >>586023529
    >Yakon didn't know what SSJ2 was
    >warn them that there is a level beyond SSJ1.
    Are you retarded? He doesn't have to tell him "hey bro I actually have sequenced transformations you have only seen the first one but I have a second one, technically fourth if we consider the ones I learned and discarded seven years ago, ready?"
    Yakon was absorbing his power. Goku increased his power. Yakon was killed by his own gluttony.
    >You just said Yakon could have stopped at any time, what happened to that.
    Yeah what happened to that? It's true.
    >Goku wouldn't just let Krillin die for his own decisions!
    Yeah, Krillin is a righteous, kind hearted person. Yakon is a demonic creature (literally called Majuu = demon beast in japanese) who was trying to brutally slice Goku up and let him die a painful death while the power from his injuries feed another demon (Buu) all after draining him of his life force's light.
    Letting evil die by its own decisions is fair and follows the budou way Goku usually abides to.
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    >SkoT is the camaraderie partner
    Neat...but I'm gonna have to use sexvoice As- I mean Chronoa
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    new artwork from the login thing
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    >>586094542
    They should REALLY integrate forms into the story. It's so weird seeing the CaC struggle in base form, make the bosses look like non-threats
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    >>586094929
    Yeah, it does look odd, like Ace/Ban are supposedly super powerful but transform, then suddenly go on to wax a bad guy, while my cac or goku is SSGSS, kinda rude
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    >>586095237
    won't transform, I mean, and I just remember Towa mind-controlling the previous XV's hero, or my XV1 cac, and they still don't transform, I get why but it kills some of the moments...
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    >>586095237
    >>586095430
    Yup, that's exactly the issue.
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    >>586093157
    >>586093149
    I joined last time but we lost
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    >>586095770
    RIP
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    I hope we can get more unlockable costumes

    And funny story; as I entered the festival my CaC is basically Supreme Kai of Time and as I encountered her npc version, I spotted a player with the exact getup.
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    >>586096293
    That's cool
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    >>586095430
    >>586095237
    Well said, I made a quick headcanon about Towa using my previous mentor to get back at my CaC, Dralloc, in an attempt to make him jealous after ruining her evil plans and turning her offer to join her down, SKoT trained him not to fall in love with bad girls! well, not ALL of 'em, He ended up marrying her in the timeline she originated from, before it was reset by SKoT, luckily Dralloc was a rookie in those days, lol
    >>586095770
    looks like u7 is winning in the "PlayStation timeline", no idea about PC/Xbox though.
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    >>586096293
    you created a time paradox!
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    Ah, looks you don't get SKoT's custom partner from fighting her, well, at least I got the art, kinda bittersweet to say goodbye, again lol
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    >>586099109
    Unlocking and purchasing unobtainable items from events is hard for newcomers
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    >>586099358
    I'm not new to XV2 , so I know just how bad RNG will try to screw me over, I've actually been playing xv2 since 2019/late 2018 too, crazy to think about it, Burst Kamehameha was the one skill where RNG owned me and about 15 other z-souls, no save editors for console players!
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    >>586099109
    >Trunks and Fu swapping swords
    Adorable.
    >Thank you! Good bye!!
    Man, now I'm emotional.
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    I can't believe we'll never see boss again...
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    >>586099864
    >no save editors for console players!
    Or mods that change drop rates.
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    >>586101174
    yup, everything earned the old-fashioned way!
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    >>586100468
    >>586100972
    Be sure to visit her every now and then!
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    >>586100972
    >I can't believe we'll never see boss again...
    Who knows...
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    I want to fuck Chronoa
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    Chronoa shoving a timescroll between her ass or her chest
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    Just who is the number one Xenoverse player
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    >>586103814
    Hot
    >>586104112
    Me
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    >>586103814
    Chest
    >>586104112
    which platform?
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    >do the cell raid (lite)
    >me and the boys curbstomp him.....or wori wa shock him to death with an Emperor's Death Beam.
    >I witnessed 50,000 (the health bar was halfway or a fourth from depletion on the main sub menu?) HP being dropped to zero within the time limit.
    never have i transpired such an event.
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    F for Akira Toriyama's house and Bird Studio being demolished

    https://x.com/R18I015P/status/2115985017260397047
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    >>586111432
    Why tho?
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    >>586111079
    Congrats, anon
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    >>586093890
    >No warning
    Yes knowningly feeding somebody something that will kill them under false pretense is murder. We have many cases of people getting found guilty of murder for poisoning.
    >Yeah what happened to that? It's true.
    And in Jojo's Polpo could have stopped eating the bananas in his room, but I don’t know why he would since he had no reason to believe one was magically a gun in disguise. Everybody agrees Giorno killed Polpo.
    >Actually its good to kill Yakon
    Not the argument. It's also good to kill the Ginyu force, or Vegeta, or Frieza.
    >Letting evil die by its own decisions is fair and follows the budou way Goku usually abides to
    I don't think Goku ever does this ever before or after. Unless we are claiming shooting people with Ki blasts directly with the intention of killing them, or ripping them apart with your bare hands, is "letting them die of their own actions" instead of killing now.
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    >>586111432
    Fly up high, Bird.
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    >>586111432
    Nothing will ever be canon again.
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    Is this the age of evil scientist women?
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    >>586117817
    Are we getting one in XV3?
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    >>586111432
    Iyoku's management is genuinely destroying Toriyama's legacy both spiritually and physically what the fuck
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    >>586120556
    I hope it's 21
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    >>586120556
    The one on the left, at least
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    >>586121956
    >the worst one
    Of course
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    >>586121956
    >The best one
    Of course.
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    >>586121942
    The scientist would be Vomi rather than 21 tho, no?
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    >>586122834
    21 is also a scientist
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    (You) obey the rules, anon.
    Megacorpos and l*ndl*rds are however allowed to do whatever they want.
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    >>586123428
    >Please honor Mr. Toriyama by allowing us to demolish his studio
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    >>586123428
    I don't get what's happening.
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    >>586111432
    >>586111997
    According to some people posting there, Bird Studio itself has been dissolved and no longer exists.
    Presumably some existing staffers would just be hired onto projects they already worked on (like Nakatsuru and Fenyo doing promo art for DB and DQ), but since Toriyama isn't around, there really isn't a reason for Bird Studio to continue existing.
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    >>586111432
    >Toyotaro didn't stop this
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    >>586124758
    Fall of the Empire
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    >>586124820
    Wouldn't that fuck with DB's rights even more?
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    >>586124978
    Not really.
    Bird Studio is still credited, but that's because it was the general name for Toriyama's involvement in a project.
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    >>586117817
    >>586120556
    Why would Arisu be like that, she is stronger than Majin Kuu, but she never actually fights on Screen. East Kaioshin gets more action in the orignal manga.
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    >>586120849
    This was the family's decision, namely the wife, Iyoku effectively dissolved bird studio in all but name, it seems as if they and Shueisha have officially come to an agreement and Shueisha now has full ownership of the Dragonball IP

    odds are the deal was they get to do whatever they want as long as Toriyama's family still gets a cut of the profits Toriyama himself was getting from the IP.

    In short, prepare for cheap AI Slop the likes of which you've never seen before in the future the other caviate was likely to keep feeding Bamco video games since Iyoka has constantly made it clear he wants more video games for Dragonball and he's friends with people at Namco-Bandai

    in short, corporate greed wins again, and a family who only cares about money is easy to bribe into not getting in the way, I guess japanese corporations are bit more gentle compared to western corporations where they will absolutely make sure they and only they profit off something if they can, think of how many iconic franchises are still kicking around while the OG creators and their next of kin get nothing for it, like the guy who created Batman, his family gets squad from the money that character brings in it all goes to corporate hounds.
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    >>586125759
    >Why would Arisu be like that, she is stronger than Majin Kuu
    We don't really know that.
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    >>586126731
    She says so and characters should be assumed to be truthful unless evidence to the contrary is present.
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    >>586111997
    what they're saying there is that they're renovating the place, building a bigger studio
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    >>586127693
    I already spammed the shueisha won thing across several places so I'm just gonna ignore that, lying is fun and makes people mad so I'm not gonna stop
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    >>586127693
    >what they're saying there is that they're renovating the place, building a bigger studio
    Don't know where anyone is getting this idea when Bird Studio already downsized months ago.
    It moved addresses to a condo (likely where Toriyama's family lives) back around July and August, and there's no reason for it to get bigger since Toriyama is dead. No Toriyama = No Bird Studio.
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    >>586127841
    el hijo Sasuke will make things right, hence why they're making a bigger studio
    trust the plan
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    >>586127617
    >She says so
    Not really, she says another Majin before Kuu was weaker than her.
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    >>586128106
    No I thought she said while commissioning Majin Duu
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    It might be cringe but I legit love those crossover fanarts that are just Goku showing up and saving the day at tragic moments.
    I really get what MHA's author meant when he said he based All Might on Goku.
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    >>586128896
    They should make one with the bullshit in Edgerunner
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    Don't worry guys as a recompensation Iyoku will put a DB Theme Park in Franc-OH NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHA
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    >>586128106
    >>586128529
    No you were right. She said it during the commission of Kuu. Which bolsters my point, there is less reason to include her if she isn't even stronger than Kuu. There are a bunch of other characters that steal her role, and there isn't a need for a lot of civilian characters in Xenoverse.
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    It is truly over.....
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    >>586126656
    What a load of [HEADCANON].
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    Kami appears to take his own body when Piccolo dies in Sayaian Saga. So even if we reasonably infer that the year of advanced warning was needed to pre-make all thr Z-warriors a body a get them a pass to the Outer Kaio Realm, the Androids can't win unless before killing any Z-warriors they perform a drive by on the Lookout.
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    >>586138862
    Considering the desperation moves King Yemma made when Majin Buu was about to pull up and slaughter Other World, it was more than possible for a similar move to be made with Olibu or Pikkon. Before anyone spouts "NOT CANON!!!" it's worth noting that Goku mentions there being strong fighters in Other World at the end of the cell saga even in the manga. This along with New Namek existing means the only way the androids actually win is through plot contrivance, which is the route Toriyama went with.
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    >>586123428
    THE GRAINS OF DIRT UNDER TORIYAMA'S HOUSE WAS PROMISED TO THE EMPEROR 3,000 YEARS AGO. PREASE UNDAHSTAND!!!
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    Shut the fuck up.
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    >>586141245
    Aeos would never say that to me
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    The new artist is a funny fellow
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    >>586138862
    >So even if we reasonably infer that the year of advanced warning was needed to pre-make all thr Z-warriors a body a get them a pass to the Outer Kaio Realm
    I mean, wasn't Kami explicitly able to remake Chaitzou's body from nothing. I don't think there is anything there to imply kami just had a backup ready for him
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    >>586142438
    I feel like the only one of these that is super egrigious is the one on the bottom left, the others are just similar poses (a lot of which are iconic poses that make sense to be similar, and even then they aren't exact copies)
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    >>586140119
    >Considering the desperation moves King Yemma made when Majin Buu was about to pull up and slaughter Other World
    When all of existence including his own life was in danger? Yeah he did some stuff, he definitely can do stuff to defeat the Androids, but why would he 17 and 18 can't come to other world, might not even be able to make it off Earth. The Kaios and Yenma don't give a fuck about mortal atrocities, the Sayians as a race were going around with individual Sayians committing planetary genocides. And nobody was going to stop them even though East Kaioshin easily could. Why would 17 and 18 be any diffrent?
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    >>586142930
    lmao look at UI Goku and bottom right SSB Goku's hair, it's a total copy, he couldn't even come up with original bangs for Goku's flowing hair
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    >>586142438
    >depicts SSBE
    >lacks the extra muscles the form has because he traced a Vegeta in another form
    FUCKING KEK
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    >>586142438
    No idea what you're even trying to say
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    >>586143502
    I think he's trying to say the artist is tracing from stuff. I do agree some stuff on there is fairly egregious, but also some of that stuff is just kind of iconic poses that would make sense to be similar. Doesn't stop the art from being bad, let's make that clear. I'd just rather criticize him for dogshit posing than that
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    >>586143618
    >I think he's trying to say the artist is tracing from stuff.
    It's promotional art, it's literally supposed to be stuff from the shows, mangas or video games tho.
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    >>586143754
    I mean, yeah, I agree. Which is why im saying we should criticize him for being a worse rendition of the stuff he's trying to emulate. mfer somehow made some of toyotaro's action poses worse
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    >>586142698
    He "regenerated" all their bodies from nothing, instead of taking them.
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    >>586143864
    calls into question why exactly kami needed goku's body specifically back in raditz, though.
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    >>586143130
    I was going to suggest that King Kai did all this, as many theories pointed out in the past, but that's honestly what I like about the Android Saga. It was a final personal challenge for the Z-Fighters, much like the rest of the series was. Even down to Cell having their abilities.
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    >>586143992
    Probably make the process easier and avoid clone issues
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    >>586144167
    >Even down to Cell having their abilities.
    This is barely a thing, though. Cell having the Z fighter's abilities really just does not matter at all aside from him using the solar flare that one time (which is something everyone can copy)
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    >>586143992
    Because it's easier and he didn't have advanced warning, like with the Sayians, and he didn't use that year to get really good at making bodies from scratch, because he would have used this power to attempt to restore Goku's body in Namek.
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    >blatant rehash of GT for nostalgia
    >cheap "serious" tone in Super but it just feels less like DB
    >unironical tracing in promotional material all the time
    >Toriyama's legacy being destroyed
    lmao Iyoku is everything people said Toyotaro was
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    >>586144167
    >I was going to suggest that King Kai did all this,
    But he wouldn't do any of this
    North Kaio wouldn't do any of this. North Kaio didn't even regenerate Krillin's body after he died on Namek, and more importantly North Kaio doesn't watch Earth all fucking day he wouldn't even know what was going on.
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    >>586144693
    It's really obvious you're some tourist from /dbs/, dude, we don't care about that drama fagging about dudes none of us will ever know personally.
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    >>586144260
    Actually this isn't 100% true now that I think about it, he does have Piccolo's regeneration. But even that's ludicrously stronger than anything Piccolo has ever shown off(till buu saga, and even that still has limits) and is basically its own thing.
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    >>586145187
    Of course what Piccolo says in the Buu saga is directly contradicted
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    I think the main relevant thing aside from solar flare cell gets directly from the Z fighters is his Zenkai, and even that's weird because it just draws attention to the fact that the Z fighters just don't get that anymore but Cell does and no reason is given.
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    >>586145596
    Nobody was eligible for a Zenkai except Goku, who we can't quanitfy if he got one.
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    >>586145682
    Vegeta got his ass beat pretty badly by 18, tbf. But eh I guess it just depends on what your line is for getting zenkais
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    >>586146337
    Nearly die. Vegeta was fine and needed no external to recover.
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    >>586146442
    anon they all got given senzu beans, and 17 even claims they may die without them
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    >>586146550
    But I thought they weren't evil and never tried to kill anyone but Goku
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    >>586146672
    I mean they explicitly know Krillin has senzu beans and that they're in no real danger of dying as long as he's there.
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    But yeah, Zenkai seems to vanish with no reason given after Namek and then Cell just magically gets it and then it leaves again during Buu saga
    >>
    https://youtu.be/IitUno5OTgY?t=50m59s
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    >>586148687
    Cool
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    >>586146442
    Vegeta's zenkais on Namek against Zarbon and Recoome were comparable to the beating he took from 18. Heck, he wasn't even knocked unconscious against Recoome... Zenkais just arbitrarily stop existing after Namek until Cell gets one.
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    >>586151727
    I feel like Cell's namekian regeneration being infinitely stronger than anything we've seen out of piccolo or nail and zenkais appearing out of nowhere long after they were seemingly dropped goes a long way to make super perfect cell look a lot worse than it really should've been
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    >>586151910
    Even before SPC, Cell survived having his head obliterated, which's far above anything Piccolo or Nail did too, and it even creates a plot hole with SPC. You could chalk it up to Freeza and Namekian cells combined making him that durable, but his head being destroyed is still a plot hole, and SPC kinda takes things too far still to how much he can regenerate... Now that I think of it, RoF makes SPC more plausible since after Shenlong resurrected him and brought Freeza's chopped body back, Freeza was still alive, and he survived long enough to have his pieces gathered and thrown in a healing tank.
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    >>586147265
    >>586151727
    Of course Zenkai's don't appear to exist before this point, Goku almost dies twice in the RR, and again against Piccolo Sr, and against Piccolo Jr.
    Some would say he almost died against Tambourine, but I would call you retarded.
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    >>586154653
    Frieza loses more than half of his head and still survives in the manga.
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    >>586154832
    We're not talking before though we're talking about after. Zenkais are a stupidly relavent plot point in namek saga and they're just quietly dropped until Cell pulls it straight out of his ass
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    >>586155034
    No that's my point, they show up suddenly in Namek, happen eleven times and then disappear, show back up once and then leave forever after.
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    >>586155158
    Tbh, I do agree with the narrative decision to remove zenkai, it feels like most plots would end up becoming really samey with them over time. But man at least say super saiyan gets rid of them or something
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    Lab coat 21
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    >>586166425
    that is so weirdly low quality i had to check and yep he actually uploaded it like that
    boggles the mind sometimes what artists are alright putting out
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    >>586160870
    I disagree with the idea to introduce Zenkai's to begin with, and cucking out and running away from your bad decision is also bad.
    .
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    >>586145032
    Doesn't sound like /dbs/ because the post actually gives a shit about the state of the ip, unlike your projecting reject ass
    We are fucking cooked and you should start being concerned
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    >>586169840
    whenever I see this art style I think of the one special where they made pan out to be a complete wet blanket incapable of doing basically anything and a post EoZ vegeta still weirdly sociopathic
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    >>586166894
    I don't see the problem
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    >>586170010
    anon it's small and visibly crunchy even without zooming in i don't know what to tell you if you can't see that
    that one's good though
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    >>586167403
    codifying shounen tropes as a direct thing in universe always gets a little weird. I've heard people complain about haki quite a bit.
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    >new attack on titan game has 70 hours of story

    >Xenoverse 3 only has 20-30
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    >>586003805
    downgrade, dragon ball universe is better
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    >>586171416
    was anyone expecting a 70 hour story out of xenoverse? Like I never got the idea it was going to be that kind of videogame.
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    >>586170635
    I don't understand what words you are saying to me.
    It's not supported by previous events, it undermines previous events, Toriyama decided to get rid of it shortly after only using it as a cheap shitty get out jail free card, and he couldn't even handle it consistently in the Saga it was introduced in.
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    >>586170219
    >anon it's small and visibly crunchy even without zooming
    I see it.
    I just don't think it's a problem to be annoyed by
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    >>586171569
    Zenkai is based off of the idea of a second wind power up, which is a fairly common thing in shounen, i'm saying that codifying that as an explicit thing in setting tends to create issues, like how I've heard haki does.
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    >>586171908
    >Zenkai is based off of the idea of a second wind power up, which is a fairly common thing
    Except that's not how it worked in the story.
    There is no point in a second wind when you can exploit it
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    >>586171908
    >second wind power up
    A what? I don't think I have read manga where that exists.
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    He got a zenkai too
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    >>586172337
    being able to actively exploit zenkais both as a training mechanism and something to do in the middle of the battle would have been toxic as hell for the story im not sure why toriyama introduced that
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    Is Sparking Zero worth buying? I was waiting for Xenoverse 3 but that game is fucked.
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    >>586175134
    You need an SSD
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    So who are going to be the villains in XV3? We know the Time GoD is a thing so the story obviously picks up, but so far all we've seen is the RR map (I guess Red Pants officially doesn't happen) and a bunch of robots and AI/holographic versions of DB characters which is pretty different compared to all the crazy enemies we got in DBO.
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    Weren't most of the XV2 enemies just DB characters but purple?
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    >>586142438
    B-but at least is not AI!
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    >>586177418
    >So who are going to be the villains in XV3?
    Dimps
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    I read reports that Bird Studio is getting relocated, so maybe not all is lost?
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    >>586177418
    I think the AI characters and the robots are going to be the meat of what we fight, which I'm not a fan of. It seems lazy. DBO had all sorts of enemies that the new era produced, like surviving members of the Frieza force and corrupted Namekian immigrants.

    XV3 could have built off of that, given us new enemies to fight and/or remade the old ones, but it went the very-xenoverse route of ignoring the cool shit Heroes and DBO set up just to opt for something far more boring.
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    fusions 2
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    >>586180710
    There wasn't a single chance Bird Studio would disappear, dumbass, Bird Studio IS Dragon Ball after all, so of course it relocated. The destruction of Toriyama's own personal home and studio isn't about DB's future, but its past, its history and legacy.
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    >>586192205
    rude
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    >>586171416
    It's actually about 15x8, if you wanna get your other cacs to the point of doing Expert Missions for grinding for XP
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    Hero Here I Go, Victree Is Youuuu
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    >>586167576
    >No u
    >Hoodweeb talk
    /dbs/ confirmed
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    >>586181135
    Bandai doesn't wanna cross wires with Heroes even though its dead. And Toriyama, who by all accounts worked extensively on XV3, had been in more of in a silly mood than a cool one, and probably wouldn't have like Heroes to start with.
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    Pan!
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    >>586171416
    Story is bonus.
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    In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey
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    >>586206261
    can i be shrimp
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    >>586206495
    You can be the termite that's choking on the splinters
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    who has mod power on sadpanda and wouldnt mind supporting a few appeal petitions?
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    >>586206495
    Krill yourself
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    >>586207702
    >>586208356
    you misunderstand
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    https://x.com/ROM_taku/status/2116309680897265736
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    >>586214175
    Hot
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    Bump
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    I wish I was perfect...
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    >>586228713
    too bad
    time to turn into brainless red kaiju
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    Bump
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    >Bird Studio is now registered in Tokyo
    >same adress as CCT
    >Iyoku is a part of board of directors
    How the fuck did he manage to do this? Gotta be backed by Tori's family.
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    >>586204467
    fake
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    >>586242850
    he is, he's a long time family friend and the one they defer to for business dealings while they effectively live their lives collecting royalty checks and chasing their own ambitions like their father/husband wanted them to, to Toriyama dragonball was just the golden goose, having Iyoku carry on keeping Shueisha from cutting out his family after his death was likely their plans from the start.

    As for Iyoku himself, his ambition is more anime and more video games, the only ones who really want more of the manga are Toyotaro. Torishima is a grifter who makes his money by riding his dragonball fame and being a grouchy old man who hates everything while never creating anything himself, no one with pull gives a damn what he says or does, only Toyotaro seems to want to be acknowledged by him like a good little puppy looking for a new master. Meanwhile Oshi is still drawing chibi ball and goku dongs without pause and Victory Uchida is still a horses ass.

    You know what I'm gonna like about 2027? Knowing that Itachi and Sloplays aren't gonna have anything to bait viewers with for the better part of a year since DBS Beerus will end around Febuary with both Xenoverse 3 AND Galactic Patrol only releasing in October/November 2027, they'll have fucking NOTHING, even Genshikin Suadra is being overhauled into an arena fighter now that the unite style gameplay pissed everyone off because that fucking Gohan loving loser ruined yet another game just like Legends.

    The only game left is Sparking Zero and that's modded to hell and back already they can get fucked. I'm turning 40 in a month, I'm a loser but I'll at least 21 tiddies to coom to next year
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    >>586243872
    Thanks to Torishima we have Yugioh so he's turned a very useful person to the industry.
    He's retired now so why is he not supposed to be a grouchy old man
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    >>586243872
    >AND Galactic Patrol only releasing in October/November 2027
    Why did you fall for this retarded lie? All this long post and you believe the arc that has ZERO promotion for all year will somehow release in only a few months.

    They're not even done animating it, nowhere close to.

    Oh this fandom is up for a rude awakening when the trailer says 2029 lmao
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    >>586245048
    since they officially announced beerus covering more than just bog/rof i think it's clear it's gonna redo super as a whole, maybe putting in broly and super hero in it too, before it gets to moro
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    >>586245473
    That's wrong too, they're stopping it at U6 until the works ever resume.
    >Super Hero before Moro
    not the correct order
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    >>586245796
    >not the correct order
    nobody cares about what the manga did
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    >>586243872
    >Torishima is a grifter who makes his money by riding his dragonball fame and being a grouchy old man who hates everything while never creating anything himself
    Had it not been for Torishima forcing Toriyama to lean into the martial arts aspects and drop the JTTW influences, this series would have ended as early as Pilaf. Manga is a collaborative effort. You can think you have a cool idea, but just because you think it's a cool idea doesn't it mean it's a good idea. Editors exists so they can keep your stupid ideas in check and compromise.

    See Daima? That's Toriyama with the most creative freedom he's ever had, and it sucks. Android Saga? He didn't have as much creative freedom there like he had with Daima, but the Android Saga is still dumb as hell and relies on audience suspension of disbelief (like some old man who somehow managed to turn two teenage brats into super weapons stronger than Frieza in his cave).
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    >>586245048
    >All this long post and you believe the arc that has ZERO promotion for all year will somehow release in only a few months.
    That anon actually said it's around a year away. Most anime, and especially most Dragon Ball anime, don't get much promotion until the last three months before release.
    Anyways for you and >>586245473, you can tell what Toei is doing.
    DBS Beerus will likely run around 20 episodes putting it roughly around mid-late February for an endpoint (dependent on holidays/breaks).
    From there, its time slot will be taken by One Piece, which will air for half a year, likely concluding that broadcast before resuming its hiatus around September~October.
    From there, the timeslot will likely just switch back to Dragon Ball, picking up with the Galactic Patrol arc.

    They're not going to redo Universal Survival or the DBS films because they are satisfied with those productions. The only lingering exception is maybe Goku Black, but much of the focus is on the earlier portions of DBS because those received the most criticism and are the most relevant to a lot of current DBS.
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    Did anyone playing sparking zero dlc?
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    >>586246762
    No, Galactic Patrol isn't gonna be in 2027. They should logically have something else to replace One Piece in November.

    But there's no single way they would have the entire arc animated by next year, as it only started being in production this year in January.
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    >>586245910
    >(like some old man who somehow managed to turn two teenage brats into super weapons stronger than Frieza in his cave).
    >No you can't just work hard and overcome Frieza
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    >>586247538
    >No, Galactic Patrol isn't gonna be in 2027. They should logically have something else to replace One Piece in November.
    So why wouldn't it be Galactic Patrol?
    >But there's no single way they would have the entire arc animated by next year, as it only started being in production this year in January.
    Nearly two years of production time (and that is just your presumption, not even fact) is a lot for an anime. You want to know the timeline between DBS entering production and releasing? Three months.
    Also, any DB anime will likely only be two cour given how it will inevitably be switching off with One Piece about six months down the road.

    Considering all of that, remember how Dragon Ball Daima started in October 2024. Two years after it got announced.
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    Perfect Cell Max needed to happen for Dragon Ball to succeed. Since it didn't, Dragon Ball is doomed to become a niche franchise, like Ninku for Americans.
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    Can I know what East Kaioshin's plan was? If he thought the Sayians wereweaker than Pui Pui what was he planning to do against Dabra?
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    >>586247682
    >remember how Dragon Ball Daima started in October 2024. Two years after it got announced.
    And it had a whole trailer showing footage A YEAR before airing.
    We're now less than a year to October 2027 and still left with a poster.
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    I don't think there is enough room to fit the the 22nd WMAT, Piccolo Daimo saga and the 23rd WMAT in the 139 to 416 range required, and it is all Kami and Mr. Popo's fault.
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    How many DLCs until we get to Granolah arc content and we can get UE for our CaC? That shit better be broken, damage boosting is usually op in vidya
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    >>586253030
    No hang on I have this.
    During the Sayian Saga Kami declares that Yamcha, Krillin and Tien had finally surpassed him, and they are all well above 1.2k, but doesn't come to help despite being so powerful.
    But during the Piccolo Jr. Saga he acts like he is too weak even to help against Piccolo Jr, and has to cheap shot Yamcha to win.
    Mr Popo and God get a 5x multiplier on the lookout.
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    >>586254341
    The earthlings leaving the palace stronger than God, training on their own for months and showing up to the battle with a PL of over 1200 doesn't mean God is any close to that number.
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    >>586250728
    >And it had a whole trailer showing footage A YEAR before airing.
    And?
    No other DB project was coming out at that time, so Daima was the primary focus of the marketing.
    Currently, DBS Beerus is the ongoing DB work.

    Do you believe that, because the new OP film set for Summer 2027 doesn't have a lick of footage out yet, it won't actually come out in 2027?
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    >>586249691
    His idea was to, at worst, just gang up on the enemies or, at best, just sneak around them.
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    >>586254941
    OP film has a set date actually. Moro doesn't, it merely came out of a "projection" from the leaker's ass and everyone naively believed him.

    DBS Beerus isn't priority enough to take over Moro's marketing which is THE main product to advertise. THE actual return of DBS.

    I was right about DBS Remake being a thing when /dbg/ argued with me last year. I'll be right about Galactic Patrol not being 2027 too.
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    >>586248178
    The west liking cell infinitely more than japan does will always be funny to me
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    >>586254819
    >training on their own for months
    I guess three is month technically... and training on your own is explicitly worse than training with somebody, and they spend less than half the time training on their own.
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    >>586256943
    >three is month
    That aside, even if they didn't train on their own later, their master telling them they have already surpassed him doesn't mean they are anywhere close to him. Just look at the other side of the protagonists' training, Kaio wasn't even strong enough to beat Nappa and Goku didn't need Kaioken to clown on him.
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    >>586256120
    >DBS Beerus isn't priority enough to take over Moro's marketing which is THE main product to advertise.
    That's not how it works at all.
    DBS Beerus is its own brand that sells its own products and will be invoked separately from other DBS projects.
    This is why they wouldn't be advertising another TV anime during its production and release, because that would detract from the project. That is different for FILMS which are additive to a TV anime.

    Based on your last statement, you seem like a sperg obsessed with being right more than with living in any normal reality.
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    >>586257153
    Kami uses present tense while North Kaio uses past tense.
    >Nappa... Goku didn't need Kaioken to clown on him.
    No when Nappa was actually trying Goku was far from "clowning on him".
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    Why is this guy allowed outside
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    >>586258724
    Why does the time patrol let you wear that? You are just asking to be absorbed.
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    Since I'm here, I might as well add. FUCK JINZONINGEN #18. LET ME ABSORB YOU ALREADY. WHY ARE YOU HIDING? WHERE ARE YOU, JINZONINGEN #18???
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    >>586259374
    Okay, first of all, it's not any less coverage than the typical armor, and it's more than a bikini or many of the shirtless styles, and second of all, I don't know where that part is coming from, but the stiff skirt would get in the way, so if anything it'd be a Cell deterrent
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    >>586259374
    >>586260339
    It has occurred to me that Vegeta in a skin tight onesie is unusually modest for a member of the cold clan military
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    >Boss talks about changing her look
    >Boss talks about making Conton more hospitable for patrollers since they exist outside of time while here
    >Boss gives a dialogue tree option

    Interesting, as long as you're a time patroller you're effectively immortal,, it's no wonder Trunks hasn't aged since the Cell saga

    is it just boss available right now? I haven't gotten Trunks or Fu to spawn at all
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    >>586263106
    >>Boss talks about making Conton more hospitable for patrollers since they exist outside of time while here
    Time to give time patroller raditz infinite speed, thanks powerscaling.
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    >>586263106
    >>Boss talks about changing her look
    >>Boss talks about making Conton more hospitable for patrollers since they exist outside of time while here
    >>Boss gives a dialogue tree option
    Very nice details. Also the 'out of time' stuff has been a thing from the start if you talk to NPCs.
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    >>586257252
    They're not advertising another TV anime because it's far from being made
    >Based on your last statement
    I have an ego. GIGA Ego.
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    Why is Toei allergic to putting Goku in this outfit? When is he going to wear it?
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    >>586271469
    It would symbolize the end of Super now and they're going to milk it forever
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    >>586263106
    >Boss talks about changing her look
    so her XV3 appearance is actually legitimately just her fucking around? fair enough i suppose
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    >>586276824
    I wonder for lore consistently reasons they'll say that her old look was her altering her look and her xv3 look is her "normal' look
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    Xenoverse 2 question.
    I am doing Festival of Universes, but there is something I don´t get. What is the point of the presets you unlock by camaraderie? They look the same and have the same stats as their default preset, and its not as if the game prevents you for using the same preset twice in the same mission, so what are they for?
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    >>586277481
    >What is the point of the presets you unlock by camaraderie?
    Saving different builds, no?
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    So could vegeta still not go super saiyan 3 in gt or did he just not want to use it because of the drawbacks from having a mortal body in that state?
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    >>586278146
    I assume not SSJ2 and SSJ3 aren't actually linear like that Gotenks learns SSJ3 without ever learning SSJ2. So I don't know why SSJ4 would require any "previous" forms
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    >>586277481
    They each have a unique new festival skill
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    >>586278556
    It isn't linear? I thought super saiyan 3 was the absolute limit of what could be achieved as a saiyan through powering up and why super never went with a true successor to it
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    >>586268315
    >They're not advertising another TV anime because it's far from being made
    No, it's because only a fucking retard would advertise another TV anime while broadcasting and selling merch for their current TV anime. Even Precure, which runs consistently with maybe a couple weeks between each series, waits until about a month before one series ends before marketing the next one.
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    >>586280852
    Even Super said that Saiyans have no limits. There's probably real SS5 somewhere out there too.
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    >>586280930
    Which doesn't change the fact there will be silence for months after Beerus ends, until we eventually get a Galactic Patrol trailer that says 2028/2029.

    And they won't reveal the trailer just anywhere either, they'll wait for a huge event like NYCC.
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    >>586280852
    I don't know about Super. But in Dragon Ball the only implication that they are linear is that Goku calls them SSJ2 and SSJ3, but Gotenks dailoge requires him to not have SSJ2, but he has SSJ3.
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    >>586281153
    >Which doesn't change the fact there will be silence for months after Beerus ends, until we eventually get a Galactic Patrol trailer that says 2028/2029
    You live in a dismal autistic reality where you genuinely believe Toei would not have a two cour anime together after a standard two year production cycle.
    >And they won't reveal the trailer just anywhere either, they'll wait for a huge event like NYCC.
    Or SDCC, or fucking Goku Day.
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    Not a joke, I like this song more than Dragon Ball Super Beerus' opening. They're both AI Songs so it seems right to compare them.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwidPQGb138
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    >>586282262
    >>586280852
    Especially since SSJ4 (Daima) and SSJG have a very diffrent method of acquisition, compared to the six forms of SSJ we see in Dragonball, I would assume you don't need SSJ1 to achieve them.
    Oh and of course GT only requires SSJ1 by strong implication.
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    >>586283787
    are majins always naked because their clothes is really just their flesh recolored and retextured
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    >>586283998
    Nah, that's Fridges.
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    Actually it's a bit weird. We know the buu's pants are just part of their flesh, but buuhan's shirt is an independent article of clothing that buu just kind of tears off
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    Boss...
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    >>586256480
    Frieza's popularity definitely seems to lean more into Japan than the West does, in part because Frieza's character inspiration is hyper-specific. Like him being based off of real estate speculations during the Japanese asset price bubble. Cell being more popular in the West can be attributed to his concept that aligns perfectly with classic Hollywood sci-fi and comic book tropes and the whole idea of the Android arc seems to resemble Marvel's Days of Future Past which precedes it by 11 years (Terminator is of course another influence).
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    >>586287229
    I think it's a combination of things of Cell being essentially the final villain for a lot of people (as a ton of people never really watched buu saga, or consider it bad enough that DB should've ended as cell) and the west's love of Gohan. Cell is Gohan's final hurdle to become MC, so people love him. I also think that videogames make him out to be this super intelligent and thoughtful dude because of his "perfect organism" shtick, so that helps. Like just recently in sparking zero you had that line with him musing about the nature of perfection.
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    >>586286874
    Her game is ending, and you won't even put on pants for her...
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    pants are overrated
    let her dress how she wants
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    >>586288225
    Her legs are distracting!
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    hope you guys are having a happy halloween
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    New XV3 gameplay.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI80Pf7hwpU
    They made the inside of his mouth manga accurate.
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    Trick or treat, brehs.
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    >>586297991
    where's puar dude
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    >>586295740
    zZzZzz
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    >>586295740
    >the parallel quests are just simulations, all the characters are AI and your mentors are some sort of computerized soul thing
    I don't know how they managed to do it but they made things more boring than the other two xenoverses.
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    >>586282262
    I thought the point of gotenks was to attain ssj3 and he probably didn't get a chance to show it off ssj2 fighting buu because he needed to skip to 3 and chase buu out of tgd timw chamber
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    Apparently there's a small memorial for bird studio now it's being demolished? You can even see a Toyo piece at the bottom here, he must have come there as soon he heard the news.
    I wonder how long this will last tho, nips are very special about their social norms so I can see this being gone soon too
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    >>586278556
    >>586280852
    Why the fuck do you think Gotenks couldn't go SS2? Because he skipped it and went for SS3? That's like saying Goku can't use Kaioken x5.
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    >>586307661
    Why does this feel like the end of DB it's kind of crazy that came out of nowhere
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    >>586022856
    where are you from?
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    >>586308272
    >out of nowhere
    Toriyama Akira passed away years ago, anon.
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    Should I play Dragon Ball Online?
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    I don't like their decision of keeping everything within West City. They advertised it as a "whole new dragon ball world" but West City was only a small slice of that world. We had the lookout, Satan City, Mount Paozu, Kame House, as well as Namek and Yardrat, and even Planet Vegeta since time travel would be a thing. Not to mention all the cool areas the new story could have provided. With 7/8 years in development the game should have been open world. Or at least had multiple hubs.
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    >>586286874
    >>586258724
    https://youtu.be/zBhjqvSwjVE?t=1h31m33s relevant 5 second clip
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    >>586285904
    Fat Buu wore pajamas after making his house, and he was wearing different pants. I think he wasn't wearing even socks. Buu's clothes are kinda parts of their bodies because they're regenerated alongside them, but they can also just, change clothes.
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    >>586317370
    being a clothes seller in conton must be ass. What with buus being able to make any clothes they want and namekians being able to just magically generate the actual ones
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    NEW THREAD
    >>586167330
    >>586157842
    >>586167330
    >>586157842
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    >>586317370
    You mean this scene?
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    >>586283639
    >They're both AI Songs
    Proof?
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    >>586318050
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    >>586318050
    these sluts ain't goku...
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    >>586318082
    Yes. IIRC he physically removes the cape too, not just shape shift it, and possibly by extension his pants, into the pajamas.
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    >>586318487
    You can see all of his clothes when he takes a bath EXCEPT for his pants. Are majins solely capable of making pants a part of their being and nothing else?
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    >>58631897
    >Are majins solely capable of making pants a part of their being and nothing else?
    His shoes should also be part of his body since they're just as default Buu clothing as his pants, yet he took them off, so I'm not so sure.
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    >>586318423
    Goku's the biggest slut in the series
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    I can't wait for people to be surprised when this non-canon filler ends up not happening in DBS Zeno or whatever they call the FT+ToP arcs remaster.
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    >>586322061
    I mean i'd just be a bit sad more than anything. I don't really care about canon or noncanon. Goku putting a hit on himself to fight hit was a fun gimmick.
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    >>586318908
    I mean, he takes off his pajama pants while he's shitting, without his normal pants underneath either.
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    Do you think if Van Zant didn't show up, Buu would've tried to fuck Hercule?
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    >>586323230
    what
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    >>586323342
    Rewatch Z
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    >>586323679
    no I prefer reading the manga
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    >>586308249
    Goku, gohan, and vegeta can go super saiyan 2 it definitely feels linear. The only true offshoots I can think of is ultra super saiyan but ironically that probably isn't even a real super saiyan form and closer to frieza full power state.
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    how would you feel if the other saiyan forms are used this way?

    Super saiyan 2 to super saiyan 4
    super saiyan god to super saiyan blue
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    Kind of think blue was rushed but goku was fighting whis in ssj bwcause thats the form he was most comfortable in so I get blue to an extent
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    >>586326538
    you're not allowed to wear armor into the budokai, though. It's why Gohan couldn't wear his helmet
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    >>586326713
    It's not armor, it's a costume.
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    >>586327279
    gohan's helmet was also just a costume, though.
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    >>586330349
    Goten wearing a costume that reflects the depth of his character, genius Kojima
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    You know, it's kinda funny how the new costume update essentially made GT Trunks and the Saiyamans useless.
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    So why did they make a game where the combat system is rock paper scissors?
    It would understandable if it was a DS or PSP game but this was a major console game.
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    >>586337596
    I think it was their way of having super cutscene-like fights while still making you press buttons.
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    >>586337596
    I actually really liked this game. Was there ever another Dragon Ball game where you physically beat the shit out of Shenron?
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    >>586343404
    Saiyan females are made for spanking
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    Bump
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