>Latest patch:https://www.playdeadlock.com/cityneversleeps>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial CompetitiveNewshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>585849029
FUCK YOU RAT KING PICKERSYOU WILL BE NERFED
explain this
Good morning, I hate Danny.
Patch doko?
It's jarring seeing "that" part of the playerbase talking about Pocket with a singular "they" when talking about someone you can clearly see is maleYou always have to re-read what the fuck they're saying
venator's entire identity is ''be inside a building so you can press 2, or die'' but even this simple concept is too hard for people to follow making his winrate shit
>>585902035>fairfax industries wants to take part in some kind of eldritch brawl>sends a salesman and a research engineerIs Maximilian fucking stupid?
>>585902301hes there to advertise products frogtard
>>585902062thanks!
>>585902327Half the heroes are unemployed bums and Geist doesn't seem like she wants a wacky exploding jetpack albeit
Enough talking about nerfs, which characters do you want buffed?
I hate Mina so much it's unreal
>>585902406MirageDoormanBillySilver
>>585902406SilverMirageSinclair
>>585902406All the C and D tier heroes so Billy, McGinnis, Warden, Calico, Doorman, etc.Not Graves. Graves is mid tier even if you are Eternus. You aren't playing DNS.
I love Mina so much it's unreal
IN HERE, I AM KING!
>>585902471>>585902512>>585902550Fair picks. I'll be controversial and say I want a Vyper buff.
>>585902182Omg did she die?
>Gun is SHIT and 75% of lategame damage is SpiritI think the main issue is Valve (wisely) made actually increasing your gun damage directly with items very rare or difficult to do, meaning most gun items have on-hit effects or debuffs that are very unclear on exactly how good they really are. On top of this, Spirit items are simply more impactful and customizable to various builds, and given how fast and evasive players are with dodges, sliding, and the movement actually hitting people with your weapons compared to a big AoE spirit circle on a 10 second cooldown that deals 1/3 of their health anyway is just a better choice for players to focus on.I think the only real solution is to add more transformative gun items (homing bullets, wallbangs, alternate fire mode replacers, etc.) or make melee more viable for more characters. Currently I think Deadlock is at a pretty good balance where even spirit heavy or exclusive characters might still want to pick up a gun item or two, but yeah it's still pretty spirit focused by a large margin just in terms of how kits are designed. If the next 6 characters drop with 6 exclusively gun heroes that'd be the only way to balance out the roster and shop purchases lol, but we all know that ain't happening.
mina saved the game
:)
>>585902657She unironically did, anyone saying otherwise is delusional
>>585902629Only thing I'd want them to do is tweak her slide so its less prone to clipping on random fucking geometry hit boxes I can't see killing my momentum
>>585902646She got better
>>585902704>first ivy saved it>then mina>then silver>then... solomon?
>>585902657that patch saved the game so yeah she kind of did
>be abrams>everyone I go near gets assfucked>be my team>refuse to play around me even when I'm asking them to>wipe their team 3 times>get mid>do nothing with it because no one wants to push with rejuv>they wipe us 1v1 even with rejuv because retards gonna retard>still no one playing around the abrams>tell them we'll win if we just play around me because I can assfuck their only threat every fight with any assistance at all>still no one plays around me>loseI'm so fucking tired of this dogshit game
>>585902649The item rework will fix everything trust the plan
patch in 3
>>585902791Ivy did nothing>Mina>Silver + Venator + Graves>Danny
I honestly don’t mind doorman being able to close his door immediately. I guess he was just too powerful in high elo.
>>585902406Billy (give him tank stats that aren't double edged memes that get him killed most of the time)Drifter (by virtue of not add 5 fucking aoe slop characters on a map that is all about aoeslop arena fights)
All the new ults not going on cooldown when interrupted better not get overlooked in the patch. Game has a growing problem of inconsistency and undocumented exceptions to effects
>>585902862Ivy's is the sole reason you're even playing the beta right now newfag, watch your tone
>got chat restricted for saying retard to a 10k damage in 35 min retardnice, talking in this game is completely useless anyways no one ever listens to you. Pretty funny that it tells the whole server though
>>585902406game has more of an issue with the top being too good than with the bottom being too bad
>>585902856months? yeah
>>585902874it made him able to escape literally anything but it was funny so wtvr
>>585902406Venator and Mirage
>>585902649If there are 6 people in a fight and you're shooting one dude with your gun, you better be killing him. Whereas just splashing a bunch of spirit damage across six enemies is very easy with the amount of AoE there is in the game.
>>585903050fucking kek, another fat tranny redditor
did people just forget how cancer good Mirage is?he's my most played character and I'm fine with him not being strong after the rework>>585903028venator doesn't need buffs
GET THOSE NIGGER M1 CHARACTERS OUT OF THE GAME
>>585902970but you cant see their damage till the game is over
>>585903050if I wanted to see reddit posts I go browse reddit you fucking nigger
I'm tired of playing tanks that do all the grunt work with none of the rewardGive me a character that can just run it down in a sidelane the second a fight starts and always gets the walker + always gets away. And isn't Ivy
>>585903149There is a game for you where you don't have to aim at all.
>>585902406billyGTviscous
>>585903151I could see their gameplay, literally only farming jungle not even defending lanes.
>>585902649It is also a draft thing. What kind of cursed comp would be 50% gun? Practically speaking:>support is spirit>caster is spirit>bruiser is punch (gun) or spirit>tank is punch (gun) or spirit>ganker is spirit or hybrid>carry is gunMost drafts end up with 2 gun heroes and 4 spirit ones.
Tfw no bird hero
>>585903264And the reason you're in that elo? Hmm...
>>585903340make a bird hero sound occult and noir and then we'll talk
>>585902406shiv>b-butYeah shiv
>>585903340we have 2 but they're both elderly
>>585903368I don't know, I was Phantom before the ranked reset now I'm frog rank with a bunch of retards that don't know how to push waves or people that have 1k hours
>>585903139He does :(
>>585903215Wraith.
>>585903340tfw no sexy feral canine hero
>>585903340Tfw no barefoot loli hero
What is the skillshot dispenser ap champion in this
>>585903323I can 95% guarantee we will get more heroes that scale off gun stats and deal gun damage with their abilities. Specifically because it will balance out the two damage types, and the Deadlock team is out of ideas so they are hitting up the old moba tropes.
Rift Lost!99% 100%
>>585903340Add Beastmaster to the game right now
Its called greenwitch but its pronounced greeneech How
eeded to bloo
>(Almost) 11/12 of the way through 2026>I am forgotten
>laning with a drifter>he's a retard mongoloid faggot cuck nigger that sprints at the enemy and goes 0/10 in lane>laning with a graves>he's a retard mongoloid faggot cuck nigger that just sits back and does fucking nothing and goes 0/0 in lane and has 5k less souls than the enemy lanersjfc
>WARDEN IS SO COOL>HE'S LIKE MY HECKING MARVEL SUPERHEROS>HIS VOICE IS SO EPIC>HES GONNA HECKING KILL THE PATRONS
How do graves has 55% winrate that toon does nothing
>>585904242I like Leech because it's kinda the "do everything for everyone but a small amount" but it's a luxury item since you're never gonna get more value out of it then Vampiric for gun or Infuser for spirit (or Radiant Regen for that matter)
>vitality has trophy collector>gun has glass cannonwhy doesn't spirit have a stacking item
>>585904457egg
>>585903913tricksy british naming
here is your team's rat king who already has 150+ ranked matches worth of experience in this season alone
>>585904269why are you throwing a tantrum over the weakest m1 carry?
>>585904545>three purples>healing boosterwhat the fuck
>>585904545Let me guess, youre danny?
>>585903913would be funny if a non native speaker like mirage pronounced it wrong
>>585904269Why his bobby hat has the jewish masonic star
>>585904269must... not... gigaquote...
yoshi i demand you make this game for macOS and also finish the risk of rain mode so i can play it at work
>>585902969Ivy furtroons really are the most delusional part of the playerbase...
i exclusively play spirit vyperit's objectively garbage if you can't finish the game in 30 minutes but i've never found another build that causes this much seethingwizard lizard the vibes terrorist
>enigma doing ultIf light cannot escape me what hope do you have>dynamo doing ult I-im doing it kyaaa!! >.< Why deadlock is so reddit
>>585904874stars are the symbol of law enforcement dear amerigolem
>>585902757I just wanna slither on the walls and ceilings and ambush people like something out of Ridley Scott's darkest nightmares.
>>585905113rent free
>>585905113Dynamo is some fat college professor in his 60's bro.
>>585905113kek i remember you posting something like this like a year ago
I AM THE COSMOS
>>585905113I AM THE COSMOS
>>585905230I just started playing deadlock Good thing some other anon also had same line of thought
>>585905113Shit game nigga I'm afraid
>>585905113bro that guy is married
>>585905113you are reddit
>>585905083>i've never found another build that causes this much seethingFrom your enemies, allies, or both?
I see the professor
>>585902392Used my brain a little and cut the fat. Additional spirit feels redundant so dropping it into its own optional made more sense compared to whatever the fuck I was thinking earlier. Frees up the 12th slot for at least one item out of the goody bag instead of only grabbing shit from there when the need arises.
in combat healing is out of fucking controlevery lifesteal item needs to get kneecapped
yammy kissies
>>585905363bothyou can 1v1 anyone (tankbuster with 2 is a disgusting nuke that can proc during petrification) and take objectives instantly (daggers with RR have 1s cooldown and almost fully refresh the charge) while having dumb vyper mobility - enemy seetheyou fall off HARD and are kinda useless in teamfights aside from ult nuke+CC - ally seethe
>>585905450who even buys lifesteal items outside of the 6ks?
>>585905083>wizard lizard>King Gizzard and the Sliding Lizardpov Vyper sliding at mach 5 chunking half your health with a dagger only to venom and leavehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qskg6yvn8vc
We need paige remodel even doe viscous and sinclair and vibora still use their placeholder models because uhhh....she gets lot of animations and dialoge expositions of youtube shorts o algo
>>585904438Infuser is ASS though, no one builds it other than victor and even now people are catching on that Radiant is better on him since it does more for less
i swear matchmaking just decides which side gets all the new heroes and which team gets ALL the new heroes and which team auto losses.literally unplayable. surely they wont take several months to fix this shit and destroy their whole momentum.
>>585905830>o algo
>>585905912Or however the ritual is performed
>>585905113NOWWW!!!!!
>>585905830need a Paige remodel that reveals her tummy and visibly has paws pointed inwards on her hips
>>585905430don't sleep on hunter's aura if you're grabbing oranges, abrams is good at isolating peoplegood looks though
>>585905113reddit is what sells these days ok?
>>585905450They kneecapped lifesteal for this exact problem and then it came back in the form of radiant regen.
>>585906078I'M DOING IT
It would be better if Graves was a boy I think
What possible reason could there be for Silver having 2 stamina instead of 3 or even 4?
Dynamo is black?
>>585906401>he doesn't know about the nutty professorbros...
>>585906078I unironically really like this line, it goes hard
>>585906368She has an innate gap closer that replenishes stamina on hit and her wolf form is absurdly fast already
I play sinclair to do cool shit but every single time without exception I just end up split pushing the side lanes and running urns because no one gives a fuk about the moba part of the game
I think I give up on Silver, I think I'll start playing her boyfriend Abrams instead
>>585906401>kind, smart, lovely professor with a loving wife and familyCan't black.
Is valve the only company still making ginger characters
Playing Harrow so much is, ironically, making me a worse person as I seethe at my teams inability to do anything right and unlike our other supports she lacks any real wave clear or damage so I can't easily fix shit my self. I'm not really one for BM but I was seconds away from shit talking my whole team for the last 10m of the game last match.
>>585906130I've been pussy footing with hunter's aura for awhile now, might have to finally give it a shot
>>585906552>Abrams>Billy>Shiv>YamatoAll of them are in the same playstyle as Silver and have a gap closer but they also have 3 stamina
>>585906967max 1 and build TB early and her damage is fineher 1 clears waves if they're bunched near a walker
>>585906078>>585906294I'M TELLING THE CLASS ABOUT THAT ON MONDAY
playing as graves with my friend and having to hold back on roleplaying with the random apollo on my team
>eido had euros and russians in 8/10 matches yesterdaylollmao
>>585907574the EUgawds are coming to rape NAsissies
Atleast ziggers and yuros dont yap in voice chat about reddit chungus shit trying to clipfarm like burgers do
>>585906967Ricochet really saves her waveclear but it's not worth delaying other things she wants more. There's not much you can do aboit retards but I more or less just focus on healing and stimming tanky characters that wont be zipping around. You can save a mina or celeste but the way they play makes it way fucking harder to heal them
>>585907008They also do not replenish their stamina when they hit their gapcloser and they don't get bonus movement speed>ShivProbably more evidence thay he is broken.
>>585907701yeah bro they just scream in russian instead and think you understand them
>>585907701every single european and russian faggot doesn't shut the fuck up in voice chatfuck off
>join team fight>press 4>win itwho am i
>DUDE THIS MO IS SUCH A FUCKING PEDOPHILE!>BROOOOOOOOO THIS FUCKING PARADOX IS AN IDF SOLDIER!>ON GOD BRUH FR FR NO CAP THIS FUCKING MINA IS A GRAPIST!i'm so fucking tired of deadlock's playerbase
>>585907896VioletRat KingHarrowSolomon
>>585907798>>585907820In my games they just say fuck niggers or something at the end if they lost
>>585902406danny he's literally worthless at my rank half the time
>Ecelebs/pros are starting to actually play spirit victorVictor BROS... CODE RED... WE'RE SO FUCKEDMY ELO POTION IS GOING TO GET TAKEN OUT BACK AND SHOT
>>585904602i don't hate cooldown and duration on RK for more barrier uptime and more frequent ults but there's zero reason to ever be running greater expansion over ballistic enhancementhealing booster is pants on head stupid though yeah
>>585903050can't even be sure what body part this is, fatties are so weird
GET ME OUT OF STANDARD PLEASE GET ME THE FUCK OUT PLEASE I'M BEGGING YOU FOR FUCK SAKES THESE RETARDS WILL FIGHT LITERALLY ANYONE EXCEPT THE FUCKING OBJECTIVE. I DON'T WANT TO PLAY CARRIES EVERY GAME, I WANT TO PLAY TANKS.
>>585908058They think Victor is the elo potion. I watched that BR vs NA game, they got shat on by a Victor 1v6 lategame because they had no pos1 to contest the Victor while the Brazilians had a Victor that was ricing. Macro diff unironically. Like what the fuck are a bunch of tempo heroes going to do once their tempo hits a wall? Simply get raped.
>>585907951>stop having fun!
>>585908161it doesn't get much better in rankedit also doesn't get much better in the higher ranksand believe it orn ot, it doesn't get much better in eternus either
>>585907951your point being?
>>585908191Yeah I saw BE play him against the shitter D-tier eu teams and he wasn't that impressive honestly, still worries me though because certain heroes get nuked if they're played enough in pro.Baba should cancel it out to be fair since she's such a hard counter.
woah... i want to fuck paige
>>585906368She smokes and drinks too much
>>585908237you forgot to mention that it doesn't get better at nightshift either
>>585907795They don't refund stamina that's true they just>stun (aoe)>knockup (aoe)>high damage>longest gap closer in the game that spans half a laneOn top of having base 3 stamina, which is a lot more preferable and more useful than a dash that needs to hit a target to theoretically have 4 stamina, especially considering 3 stamina heroes tend to not have to buy stamina itemsBut you probably don't play any of these characters so I'm most likely wasting my breath
>>585908404You say that as if Silver doesn't have>displacement>free slowing hex>disarm>TWO gap closers
If im playing deadlock in 6 years i failed at lifeQuote me on that shit
>>585908352that explains why doorman is so ugly
>>585908504If you're not playing deadlock in 6 years it means technology has failed at replacing every work aspect of our lives
Buff Doorman. This is a threat.
>>585908673straightfag...
>>585908352Most people's faces are not asymmetrical to the degree that Mina and Paige's faces are, they're asymmetrical because they were modeled specifically for their selection poses and default posesViolet is the same
>asymmetrical faced beta womenvs>The Symmetrical Giga Stacey
which is stronger right now, dash infernus or gun infernus? (or hybrid?) I don't usually play infernus and want to try him out
>>585909059read what afterburn does then think about what you're asking
>watch zerggy's stream >max ult 2ndVictorbros, looks like we're safe after all. These ecelebs/pros still haven't recovered from the wallbreaker rape-ening
big sign of how cancerous CC has become that Unstoppable is bought literally every single game
>>585908352Paige's new face is completely symmetrical
people look at you and say that this character is attractive
Why do Eternuses engage in big slop fights every time the rejuv crystal drops, often wiping the entire team?
>>585909176if you thought the game wasn't going to devolve into everyone buying BKB you haven't paid attention to anything
Boy oh boy I sure love this meta where all the good heroes are the same good heroes as always + the new heroesHeaven forbid anything other than the same shit as usual be meta for more than 2 weeks before getting nerfed to F tier and we can go back to enjoying Haze+Wraith being in every fucking matchWe desperately need a balance patch that actually shakes things up
i think it's pretty telling that not a single eternus streamer or eternus youtuber or eternus pro is having fun with the game's balancing or matchmaking
>>585909293That hand looks sexy
>>585909407When have you ever heard those people say they're having fun?They only complain when something kills them while they're playing one of the many hypercarries
>>585909495the game was objectively in a better more fun state before this big patch
>>585909162He maxes 1 first?
>>585909293No, I look at it and say this
>>585909313>BKByou can just type unstop instead of autistically trying to tie everything in deadlock to some league of legends item
>>585909523>MercMagnum Spirit Overflow Warden+Wraith meta>objectively betterPeople have very short memories
as a leaguebab sinclair is the easiest thing i've played so far, on everyone else i just lose lane and get raped the whole gameare there more long ranged mages like him in this game
was wraith's pick/winrate even bad before she got the insane buffs (card suit + ult is now a displace patch)
>>585909640Viscous, Paige
>>585909640grey talon, solomon, paige
>>585909676yeah she was shit before she became a gambler
>>585909579dumb fucking monkey I was pointing out that the DotA devs are going to turn the game into DotA eventually go eat banana elsewhere
You like Mina.
>>585909920NoEven less so now that she actually loved pocketWay to ruin a character
>>585902035pros and toprank players in most games are pretty shit at gauging balance and hero strengthMost of the time it's just their gut feelings and vibes, of course better than the average player, still often garbage.This results in them ranking characters high that they SEE well played.Which also typically leads to the usual cope loop of "this character is garbage" -> *another player has good results with it* -> "man I've always known this character was good!", as seen in other games.
>>585909920yeah duh
>>585910157she doesn't go nopan like that...
still the only good mina cosplay since it's done by an actual asian girl and everyone else is an ugly white tranny
>>585909920yes>>585909965mina being 95% superficial instead of 100% is a good thing for her character
>>585910207and how would (You) know that?
are there any stat sites that aren't kiked to the gills?
Items that need to be in Deadlock ASAP
>>585910367everything is vibe coded by claude nowadays you dumb retard
>>585910284built for correction
anyone have "y'all just porns to me"
Reminder that Graves has a 57% winrate in top 10%
>>585910449sounds gay
>>585910284>mfw (Mina's face when) she finds out that Silver does not necessarily transform into a *female* werewolf
>>585910536yeah but I'm playing in the remaining 90% nigger what's your point
>>585910494nvm found itthis is lodged in my head in an annoying wayi can't play soloman without it intruding into my thoughts
>>585910536says right there that g raves has a 52% winrate and not 57%
>>585910449that only answers 1/2 of the question you stupid faggot
>>585910536now post Silver's winrate
I literally can't win on Abrams. I play well, I farm well, I build well. I go to help team, I get hard focused with no one help and I die for nothing. I get an insane engage and no one comes. The enemy groups and we don't and I just fucking lose. This is dogshit. Fuck this dogshit cancerous game.
>baba gets outdamaged by support viscousthis is my sign to stop playing for the night
>>585910837Abrams era is over
>The enemy team has a venator
Watching singsing playing bebop with utility build makes me think this clanker is broken bruh
>>585910278hyoon owes me sex in cosplay
Fuck, this matchmaking is so unfair. It broke my streaks.
>>585910292>>585910157how can she be so bottom heavy?
What to do when my retard teammate gets caught in jungle after 30 mins and they just take mid
>>585910942ELO landmine
Post your match history
>>585910925she only fucks rich skinny white boy streamers
Another tr*nny paige player complaining from minute 0 that ruins everyone's mental and loses us the game (They went 0/6/2) :)
>>585910385A long time ago I suggested more skills have charges and have items that burn charges similar to a mana bar since hero shooters have no resource management (and it would give counterplay to things like vic ult) and people were so revolted you would have thought I said I fuck trannies. Unless we have something like ammo pools/mana we can't have mana burn items
>>585911026>skinny white boyokay im 3/5ths of the way there surely that can get me a handjob or something
Rate my roster
>>585911070I think mana burn can functionally be replicated with a cooldown penalty after activation or a random non-ult getting put on cooldown after a buildup.
>>585911212ethical non offending pedophile-coded
>>585910292Sauce? SauceNAO gave nothing
>>585911726fourchannel.org
I can't never seem to understand Drifter build. I guess hybrid is the way to build him. Using slowing hex on unsuspecting targets really helps. Not sure if I want to be carrying knockdown and disarm hex on him, but it definitely helps.
>>585911880Yeah I figured it was a drawfag at this point
>>585902035You know, I only now just realized that Harrow's line about Solomon not being a Grandmaster means the game can either only take place in the 50s at the earliest or the whole "cultural acceleration as a result of the Maelstrom" theory people have is true.
>>585911070>>585911239Cooldown penalty items seem extremely fun on the surface but they aren't really "actionable" because you don't usually know what cooldown the enemies have on their skills, it'd just be free value against most heroes and even the heroes who are supposed to "counter" it or pure gun/melee characters or characters with passives would still get fucked over by it. I am not surprised they haven't added one even though it seems like a no brainer.Making so it ONLY worked on charges and not ultimates and making it relatively cheap so you can use it in lane against characters with annoying charge-based abilities would probably be the most tactical/useful implementation of the item but then you're just doing item hard counters which this game generally shies away from doing.
>>585912109Geist with glasses!!
>>585912009>832x1216>drawfaganon...
>>585910284>mina being 95% superficial instead of 100% is a good thing for her characterNah, she was better than she was a total goldigger bitch about Pocket. She showed her other side elsewhere like offering to re-stitch Victor.
My wife can beat your wife
>>585910284>>585912301(nta) i think her feelings towards pocket are still superficialshe probably still loved the idea of an upper class life with an idyllic husband but probably didn't know or care for pocket as a person all that well
>>585910942>i picked heroes i've never played before in ranked and lost every game>matchmaking is so unfair!you're the fucking terrorist hereevery nurse harrow i've had on my team for the past 10 games has been awful people legit dont even look up a build or test the hero
>>585912286I use drawfag and promptgod interchangeably, because they are
>>585911070>>585911239>>585912158You could make it so the item/ ability freezes all your cooldowns for x amount of time (maybe double for charge).This has less impact on ults because they already have longer cooldowns, but I suppose you could just make only apply to non-ult abilities if you dont want to screw over a Victor/ Geist etc who's seconds away from getting their revive, or other cases like that where seeing the players timer makes it way stronger.
mina's cold undead feet
>>585909523Retard
Who's the Sven of Deadlock?
>>585912301Why wouldn't it be in character for a goldigger to try to manipulate their paypig? Of course she'd say she loves him
>>585913125Warden, but hes broken (bad)
>>585913125no real equivalent especially since melee only characters in deadlock would be shit on but i guess abrams and yamato
Celeste has been fixedhttps://x.com/skindeadlock/status/2115052855392387327
>>585911239Cookdown penalty does sound like a good compromise. I dropped overwatch shortly after launch though because of the lack of ammo management and I wish deadlock didn't follow the same trope. There could be a lot of different support archetypes if they did things like puttin down a dispenser. Cooldowns and reload speed are technically a sort of resource management but I think something longer term that makes you think on a more macro level is better. It would balance out spirit characters too since they couldn't just spam forever
>>585911004we got our top scientists trying to figure it out
why do i kill things 10x faster when buying gun items compared to spirit
>>585913456baseline spirit res on stuff
>>585910906Yeah, Singsing actually got substantial pro circuit experience and he isn't some egocentric 19 year old. He should be able to understand macro on a much more substantial level than the """"pros"""" in Deadlock (it is kinda funny how Eido has recently been watching League and Dota2 VODs since he understands that no one in the pro scene knows macro lmao).The fact that Heroic Aura isn't bought every game at pro level is shocking.
hello america i queue with you now
maybe echo shard on the jar is the #method
damn apollo kinda shits on danny huhvery durable with his fat heals, if he holds his 2 you can't ever bomb him, very evasive so he's hard to hit, stays in the air most of the time so you can't hit him with strix, and has apollo ult to finish your bony ass offthe only advantage danny has is that he can noclip out of there in 2 seconds
i swear since i've got to mid ascendant i've got like a 30% winrate but since the loop is>win>get asc 3>lose>lose>losemy rank remains Ascendant 3 most of the time. I'm holding my team perpetually hostage.
>>585913708Fuck off, we're full
>>585913708>100msRussian/russian colony spotted.
>>585913812>>585913821deal with it :)
>>585912741I said I want lose streaks, you idiot.
>>585913853>make russia horrible>rusnigs leave for europe>make europe horrible>europeans leave for america>make america horribleNo one likes you. Not even other rusnigs.Reflect on that. (I know you are not capable of reflection)
>>585913757that's what i preferred back when i was BLAZING the trailthe skulls pretty much always become staggered and you're on them with M1 + capacitor pressure, which sets up your line+ghouls for the kill once they start panickingeven if they dispel the capacitor and/or have mobility it doesn't help much because hey, the skulls chase fliers
>>585910536My wife Ivy is so cute and strong
>>585913853>annoy people>>mad? )))this is the only thing in life ruskies find pleasure in doing btw, their only reason to not ack themselves.the trannies of europe lol"europe"
Wraithfags say she has a weak early game but doesn't the fact that she gets picked consistently in pro play prove that isn't true?
>>585913992>>585914071seething euroidswe don't care about russians we already deal with chinks and spics, only eurofags piss and moan about slavs
well /dlg/? an easy question
>>5859142494
>>5859142493 It's not actually that good until you upgrade it
>Jamlex Melee Tank Graveswhat is this guy doing>>585914019I was always an echo shard on 2 enthusiast but I'm slowly shifting towards the skulls, the enemy Danny was getting blasted to the point where (once the match ended) his teammate said he threw the game
>>585914249idk like 6 or 7
>>585914235any experience laning against a wraith proves that isn't true
How would a Sinclair redesign even look like? i dont like the fan models where its split in half i think thats lame as shit.
>>585902035Gas Danny and all his shitty defenders
Erm wraith can't ult you and insta kill you by bombarding you with all of her cards and be ahead by over 20k souls in lane so her early game is bad
>>585914240I wonder why It's almost like the world would be better off if they were all nuked>>585914249Mystic Regen sucks. RR is the OP one
>>585914235wraith with a card stack deletes people in lane
>>585913334>the basic bitch pick that like sitting in the back and let others play the game for themshe would be the Paige of this game
>>585914235Wraith is weak mid game. Lane she can dump cards, and late game she's late game Wraith. It's that inbetween stage where people can tank her cards but she's not Thanos yet where she's vulnerable and weak.
>>585914537I think the basic idea of Sinclai being a mannekin is good. I think you can have lots of fun with its animation by making it look "puppettered".As for the split design, I think the mannekin should have a face on each side of the head. I think his spectral assistant should show the original appearances of Henry and Savannah.I don't think the mannekin wearing the costume and top hat is fine. Just add a bit more feminine flair to it by adding some flamboyance to the cuffs and neck.
for me it's this graves build in eternus
Does Bloodletting make it so that Silver builds her ult slower on Shiv?
>>585914895needs more 6.4k items
>>585913125seven
>>585914895Titanic Magazine my beloved
Nurse 2 is the most griefable ability in the gameNo one knows how to use this thing properly so I just take extra damage for no reason
I build point blank + sharpshooter on apollo
>>585915450My favorite are nurses using it on themselves as if it will save them
>>585915450i do not play nurse harrow but isn't it something like>teammate is making a play (but likely not the first person to go in as they are drawing too much fire at once)>amp them with 2 to make them kick ass 30% faster>blast them with 3 heals to offset the incoming increased damage
>>585915573the play is to put it on someone that is about to die
>>585915450I keep getting it when I play m1sI mean thanks I guess now I deal one gorillion damage from the speed increase but I also die from a sneeze
>>585915450play haze and cleanse the debuff with 2 (haze is the only character in the game that can cleanse it ^w^)
>bomb bebop on my team
>>585916114Idk why they felt the need to get rid of self-bombing on him
>>585914937Yes I’m pretty sure, it’s just flat damage dealt so even regular tanks with resists will build it slower
Let's try something. I have a theory about certain heroes...>your top 3 played:>your highest level of education:>your region:>average games played/day:>do you play other games:
Solo standard as a tank Billy/Abrams player might be the most miserable dogshit someone can subject themselves to in 2026
Got in low priority and realized one thing.The players in there are not toxic and are just really really bad at the game.They are mostly getting mass reported because they are feeding or playing really bad.
>on a winstreak>game deploys the anti fun hitsquad>have to lane blue on top of it
>>585915494i max ult extremely early just so the 2 actually can save me
I'm learning Violet, should I even bother buying gun items other than maybe Mystic shot? Seems to like they don't really benefit her much and the slots are better spent on more spirit
>>585916278Not answering your personal info poll
>>585915573Its really good on people with good self healing or buffs like Wraith, Billy or Victor.>Throw it on Wraith as she goes in and pocket heal her>Also extend her full auto infinite ammo buff>She shreds and lifesteals/heals via card bursting a ton>Your healing also helps offset the damage>When the buff finally runs out you can pump even more healing (now without the increased damage taken) into the target to top them up and prevent deathVictor dying he does not care because of his ult and billy can a use melees more with an extended unstoppable from his ult.
>>585916278>Billy, Drifter, Abrams>Diploma (been unemployed for 10 years)>Australia>4 standard or like 10 brawl,. Previous map/before Violet and Danny faggotry it was like 10 standard a day>Competitive games? Just Dota. Games in general? I have 6 poorly translated Chinese martial arts Wuxia/Three Kingdoms slop games on my desktop that I cycle as the vibecoding devs put in patches
>>585916278>I don't play this shit game>Masters>Brazil>n/a>no, why would I?
Rat king deserves buffs.
>>585916278>holliday silver ivy>masters (unemployed)>eu>3-4>yes
>>585916450Just push 4 bro
>>585916542If by buffs you mean his hugs oversized stinking rat balls worshipped then yes.
>>585916225When did they?
>>585916450gun is a meme take this build
>>585916450Yea it’s worth going 4.8k, can either go mystic+opening rounds+swiftstriker or mystic+heroic aura
>>585916537Interesting, why are you here, then?
>>585916720Almost a year ago now. At the same time they killed gunbop and added the healing on his max tier 1
Is Archmother's half of the map just way better and safer than HK's? Bottom left for AM you have the theater, perfectly enclosed space that holds all your camps which are safe to farm and your double sinners which are pretty far back and no one is gonna bother you while you take themBottom left for HK, half your camps are in no-mans land in the middle of nowhere, clear sightlines on anyone rotating from mid or taking bridge buff. Your sinners are in a tiny claustrophobic shack WAAAAAY too close to blue lane where if you don't have prio on blue it's suicide taking themBottom right for AM you have the purple smog which hides you while you take sinners and the camps, and nobody ever really wants to gank in the one doing sinners in this area because the purple fog fucks your stamina. You can easily sneak these sinners even if you're behind and enemy has prio by quickly getting in grabbing them and getting back out.Bottom right for HK is chinatown, 500 routes to get ganked by/from when you're doing a camp, and your triple sinners fucking ANNOUNCE that you're doing them turning it into a hitler brawlfest every now and again. Impossible to take your own sinners here when you're behind because the enemy tank WILL appear in your asshole the second the gong ringsI just feel so much safer playing AM's side iit's not even close
When did they change warp stone to conserving momentum?
I just learned this MikaelS guy is Finnish and he suddenly makes a lot more sense as a person. The "chill vibes" are actually just fingolian autism and he's a god at the game because of national nerd genes
>>585916114>>585916225Is bomb bebop decent currently?
>>585916945no real reason
>>585917024Pretty much. Double sinners in particular are the most biased. Theater is a billion times safer and easier to escape (if the enemy is going to catch you doing sinners) than the Hidden King side's shitty rundown apartment
>>585917024No hk is better, before the map rework it was even more hk biased so am is better than it was which is probably what you are feeling
>nobody buys phantom strike for vindicta>have to do it on remim a predator
>>585917068He also used to be an item designer for Riot Games
>>585917024Yeah. HK is fucking terrible and designed by utter retards. A bunch of clutter put everywhere for the sake of saying they did it rather than to make a balanced map. Old map was 10x better and it's unfathomably to me that they take a step back each patch in exchange for better visuals
>>585917174
>>585917096no it's been useless for a year
>>585917262bro your knockdown?
>>585917174Why are Harrow players so bad at the game? When there's one in my matches, they almost always perform this poorlt and it's not the case with other new characters
>>585909162That's what you're supposed to do though>2 upgrades into pain battery>1 into aura>Finish off pain battery>Max ult>Max the rest of aura upgrades>Max jumpstart lastThis is the most optimal path of upgrades if you want to be a real hero pre minute 20.
Is there any way to make the sound of heavy meles more obvious? I can't even hear this new sound properly, let alone adapt
>>585917390
>>585917096I'm pretty sure the meta build is "bomb Bebop" by technicality since you're getting spirit items, but it's mostly supportslop like Knockdown and Slowing Hex. You just run around ganking like crazy with Trophy CollectorBuilding for your bomb exclusively(e.g. rushing Tankbuster) is dogshit. IF your match lasts long enough you can pivot to stuff like Mystic Reverb or whatever because you have a billion stacks, but that's a niche exceptional thing. Bebop (like a number of other heroes) is currently a platform for delivering support item active effects
>>585917392CarefulHarrow clique isn't gonna tolerate any critcism. You're gonna be accused of being a Violet falseflagger soon.
>>585917216I wonder what makes HK advantaged. If I'd have to guess its that the AM side has slower defensive rotations because of the open spaces and the fact that the pond is easier to invade (a HK Rem will be feasting).
>>585917478I haven’t done a deep dive in the new map but the old was camp placement+base geometry
>>585917437I just go Dispel because the game usually has alot of other bullshit to Dispel ontop of knockdown too>>585917421Mods, which probably will be fixed by release cause its broken as fuck for counterspell.
>>585917478If I had to guess, it's because of how good AM's side is and how it's safer to invade. Aggression and taking resources wins games, and AM can't really do the same back the fucking bell tower
>>585917642true but it still knocks her out of lunar orbit which is the most important part for getting pubbies to blast her
>>585917068Not only that, his fingolian genome also makes him predisposed to playing exclusively sharpshooter heroes (Shiv knives is a sharpshooting ability). The reason he is so strong is that he is in his natural environment when preying on russians.
>>585917719>Shiv knives is a sharpshooting abilitysharpshooting is a stretch that shit wider than the fucking lane
>>585917263why would anyone just go on the internet and lie
>>585917716Nah you can dispel knockdown before the stun, the moment its on your head just press Dispel and its gone.
Why is Valve raping stat tracking sites for deadlock anyway? They never had a problem with dotabuffI hate not having a site to check my own statistics
>>585914235People say early game is weak but once landing is over she becomes an existential threat with constant hard-to-interrupt farming (LIFTING LIFTING LIFTING) and the ability to just obliterate walkers if she’s ignored on a lane push for 5 seconds
>>585917719>sharpshooterGod imagine the absolute KINEMA that would be a stealthy poke-and-run sniper a'la Simo the White Death in Deadlock
>>585917808It is also very slow, at midrange you have to actively predict movement to hit it.t.Shiv main
>try to play Abrams/Billy>the most faggoty lane hitlers on the neemy team swap into my lane every single fucking time without failHoly fuck is it too much to ask that I don't feel like the reason the team is getting raped for the first 15 mins for one match
>>585917716>counterbuy faggots don't even know that knockdown can be dispelledLLLLLLMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>585917716what the fuck man are you regarded you are making us look bad
>>585917875Are they? The only one that I know of raped themselves by preventing you from accessing the site with an adblocker, because they're greedy jeet faggots
>>585917924He doesn't play her right now, but MikaelS is probably the top Vindicta too when she is good.
Its over victor bros.The ecelebs have caught onEnjoy the free elo potions while they last until we get given the mirage/warden treatment.
>>585917096Go either tankbop or gunbop with hybrid bombPure bomb is ass
>>585918048All stat sites are rate/API limited, so they don't get full match histories
>>585916278>geist, ven, harrow>bachelors>US>3-4>tekken 8
>>585918049/ourguy/ surefour mogs tho>>585918048They throttled API calls
>>585918101I always thought that was because it was reliant on people to have the apps install to track it. If no one had it, it doesn't get uploaded. Though that may have only been a last year thing
>another wraith, ivy, celeste 3stack on standardim having fun bros the dopamine will tickle down eventually
>>585918145>harrowMy nigger.Howeverthoughbeit, picture this: Geist and Harrow, naked, buttered up, in a twerk-off. Who wins? Thoughts?
>>585916278Billy, Victor, SilverBachelors with honoursEU2-3 games a dayLimbus
>>585918221I have not seen an Ivy in like 50 matches in standard (outside of when my friend picks her randomly)How are you running into enough for it to be noticeable Celeste is also rare, and unless you're super high elo they're a free kill because they're groundbound retards and you're supposed to play Celeste up in the sky like Vindicta but shitters dont have #movement
>>585918145Hmm yes this confirms my thesis that hagfuckers play both Geist and Harrow... Interesting...
>>585918221You people are literally literally Hitler
Last time I saw an Ivy they literally rushed Healing Tempo with their first 6.4k souls and then linked Wraith with the full link APs for permanent link. It was like a dog on a leash.
>>585917024No HK has an innate map advantage and always has 1% more win percentage
>>585918391>confirms my thesis that hagfuckers are attracted to hags>in my next theorem - sand found at desert!I'm sorry are you retarded my man? No offense
speaking of Ivy is it even possible to play any Ivy build thats not chudzu anymore
>>585918306it'd be close but i think geist slightly has the edge due to more experience>>585918391the riper they are, the sweeter the fruit
>>585918747I still play healslut Ivy
>>585917024yes because of how strong theater is yeah purple>tower but it's mainly because of theater >>585917216this isn't taking rank into account and is probably all matches since the patch so people didn't know what they were doing
>>585916278victor, lash, sevenhigh schooleast coastif im grinding like 4-5, if not then 0-2yeah
>>585918742I have many theses I wish to prove with this. Primarily related to M&K/Graves players and education but you gotta make due with what results you get.
this game is making me #sorrowful
>>585904242I like it on Victor
Do you guys think Graves is gonna see play with her tank build in DLNS tonight?
>>585918908>M&K/Graves players and educationWell, spill it out doc
>>585919176They've all been scrimming it and DLNS has 6 bans this week so yes
>>585919052>cheats
>>585917024Theatre is just so much better than whatever-the-fuck hidden kang’s equivalent burned-out shanty town is- it’s a goddamn mess with confusing flow where theatre allows you to just shoot and move from camp to camp. Enemies never dare archmother sinners because of how easy it is to get counter-jumped and then just fucked over if you can’t kill the wraith farming the doubles and camps fast enough for her backup to jump in
>>585919346>jeets
>>585918747I mean you can build whatever utility items you want, really. Ivy doesn't actually need specific items so you can get the slowing hex, knockdown, relic your team needs. Echo Shard and Expansion if they just need stuns. Healing Tempo if you're a slut. Gun damage if you really want to.
balance patch today
>>585918843>this isn't taking rank into accountuhh... anon?
balance patch NEVER! MWAHAHA
>>585919220I believe with this paper I will prove to you that there is a direct link between Graves or M&K players and their education.The research will show that there is an inverse relation between the education of the individual and their games played on these heroes. Their winrates may also be related, although results are pending.
>>585919479silver nerfsradiant regen unchangedbaba melee & debuff resist lowered by 5%nurse heal coefficient dropped by .001 great patch abdul you keep hitting them out of the park
>>585919314>6 bansOh really?When do the bans happen then? 1st pick, 3rd pick and 5th pick?
>>585919609Honestly these are some really good numbers. Just some tiny tweaks and they might hit a really good equilibrum on eternus.
>>585919628Don't forget to include the inbreeding factor and the sexual abuse received as a child in your theory, professor. Hurt people hurt people.
>>585919748I'm not sure, I think it might have been that each team opens with two and then gets one after the first couple picks.
>>585919792They are actively tweaking the map continuously. They already made one of the theatre camp all 3s on AM side. Need to see new data from after that change was made.
>>585919824god I love these goofy fucking images so much
>>585918908I'm legally retarded and I only play Viscous, Sinclair, Doorman and Lash
>>585919792They have actually made some changes since release, they removed some boxes on the HK side and removed and then added back some heavy boxes for the AM as well as giving them another T3 camp.
>>585918145 (me)unrelated but can anyone verify whether or not statlocker is full of shit when it comes to these personal stats?if not then i am thankful for the free glaze
>want to play ranked before the new wave of players unlocks the queue>don't want to play ranked until I can ban the new heroesI still don't understand why they're open to play in ranked even without the 15 wins in the first place
>choose only oneSo, /dlg/? What's your poison?
All Seven players are very high iq
>>585919824The problem with this approach is that it's hard to test for inbreeding or sexual abuse in a questionaire, as they often aren't even aware that they're inbred or have been sexually abused.It seems this thesis will need more rigorous testing than I previously assumed to draw a true conclusion.
>mina on the enemy team>snowballs off of retards in lane and I need to dedicate all of my time and resources to countering them>mina on my team>doesn't know how her gun works, dead last in souls all game
>>585920279None because they're all trash
>>585920374how many ENEMY SO GOOD ME TEAM SO BAD posts do we need nigga
>>585920296but anon, all the se7en player are r*ssian??
>>585920279L > C > J > G > K > H > E > I > A > B > F > Dparadox isnt that fat btw
>>585920146as far as i'm aware accuracy isn't tracked by valve so these numbers are cooked up one way or anotherthe fact that 50% accuracy is 50th percentile, 55% is 75th, and 47% is 25th, my intuition says that these numbers not aligning with what i'd expect suggests they're fucked in some waytheir items WPA shit also seems friedbut again, this is hunch, gut, instinct shit. i could be entirely wrong, no idea
why cant I spectate some matches? It just gets stuck on 'connecting to match'. It's been like that forever.
>>585914895*dies to a random gt arrow*
>>585920438Don't talk to me like that boy
How the fuck do I win this?>Vindicta gets gigafed early>Dynamo already has Refresher at the 20 minute mark>Mo and Krill will not die>Infernus has a ton of on hit effects>Violet just wins every team fight with her ult>Graves massively split pushing so we can't deal with these 2 problems at onceLike what the fuck was I supposed to do here as Abrams? We get slaughtered and then we lost.
>>585920279G nonstop
>>585920363>M&K players>Graves abusers>QuestionaireJust do a vivisection at this point, doc.
>>585920667You lost on queue
>>585920667Make peace with the fact that you will at times get raped with no recourse
>be harrow>have Baba on team>use 2 on her when she's diving>win harder
>>585916278>celeste, mina, holliday. lately been enjoying danny as well>college dropout>NA>2-5>yes
>Harrow's face gets veiny-er the higher her leech counthaha imagine if her boobies were like this too
>>585920667in the 6v6, if their six are just better, stronger, more synergistic, there is nothing you can do. the best you could do is rush phantom strike once you saw vindicta getting fed to try and shut her down with it. the only other option is to make calls, soft lead, and hope your team can work together better than theirsbut yeah nah. sometimes you just lose
>>585920667Honestly Violet’s ult could just be the walls themselves blocking vision and it would be strong enough by itself.
Does anyone use the sewers? I've never seen anyone use the sewers.Specially as Ratking. The hitbox for the sewers seems a bit off I always have a hard getting in or out of them.
I've finally gotten a couple Danny games inWhen he comes online, he is easily the most fun character in the game Whoever designed Danny should be the lead on kit design cause nobody else compares
>>585920279Vyper sisters...
>>585921225>Harrow lovingly nursing my cock after ripping it off and sucking the tip clean offAlso I ain't gotta imagine shit they literally are like that ingame (and in real life)
>>585916278>mokrill/dynamo/kelvin>nearly got my masters in education>NA>2-3>waitan for wow forever
>only just found out 2 seconds ago that you can melee rat king's gay bomb awayThe third eye has been opened, boys
>>585918358Specifically Ivy + Wraith happened twice in 8 games. It's always the most annoying shit ever because Ivy's ult is overtuned as fuck and Wraith is Wraith>>585918471I'm not the one playing as them
>>585921423OH VYPERYOU ARE SO BEAUTIFUL
How does the game determine team comps? they got two tanks, billy and rat king and maybe a third in bebop and we got, Silver, I guess? does she count?
>>585921539why would solomon be mad in this scenario. has the artist listened to a single line of dialogue from the man?
I want my heart back
>>585921806I don't know, have you?
>>585921806He's mad because he lost
>>585921794Each team needs two heroes that are tagged as "Frontliner" by matchmaking, they don't necessarily have to be heroes who can "tank"Apollo is a Frontliner for exampleI don't really know who's tagged as what specifically but I can imagine silver is one, maybe venator too
>>585920724Perhaps that would be safest...After all, I do this to better the world. If we could just understand them, we may be able to reason with them..
>>585922097Silver isn't really a frontliner, she's more of a assassin if anything. Playing her like one is just going to make you go 0/10
What does she even do?
>>585922261die
>>585920279Wraith but the punishment for my insane gambling debt is sitting on my face
start digging!
UNSTOPABLE DOESN'T STOP YOU FROM RUNNING AWAY UNDER FEAR?!?!?!?!!?!?WHAT???
>>585921980ah, i see. it's merely projection. racists really see a humble old man and get mad. i don't get it.
>>585922261um shes le OP ok??
>>585922261I don't know, but I'm 'bout to find out!
>>585921539>mokrill>mastersInteresting... Would you happen to get only Ds? No offense, of course.
i added another bind for zipline because of danny but it feels like it takes a second to trigger that space doesnt haveanyone experience this?
lmao every single post about russians/matchmaking gets shut down
>>585922261If you get behind, its extremely hard to get back into the game. You can't pop ult super easily, might die right when you do.
i try to avert by looking down at least a quarter of the time when harrow ultsit feels like such a natural response
Why do people keep pretending like we need or should/would ever get a "true melee" hero?Apollo and Drifter already have very limited max range, gun denies are already a thing, and it wouldn't be fun to play with this game's massive amount of movement and parry system.
>>585921794>>585922097It is definitively Silver. The other one is probably Calico. Venator is their m1, Solomon and Graves are the supports, and Celeste is the caster to complement Venator.You know those questionaries where they ask how good a frontliner or non-cc support a character is? That probably determines their matchmaker classifications I bet.
>>5859224274chan really is the refuse that even Reddit doesn't want, huh? The only reason to come here is when you get banned from Reddit, is that it
>>585922592holy esl post
>>585916278rem, dynamo, ratkingschooleualotyeah but not right now
>>585922240I feel like Haze would be a cat furry because cats are very sleepy and also evil.
>>585922261Scissoring with Violet
>>585922318Just ridiculous
https://www.twitch.tv/rileycs_she's live
>>585921794>>585922579The enemy team is hilarious btw. Rat king and Billy frontline, Violet and Bebop support, Vindicta carry and Mina nuker.
>>585922261Effortlessly win 1v1s and even 1v3s then proceeds to whine on /dlg/ about how their boring statstick is actually the worst hero in the game
>>585916278Graves, Paige, SevenDropped out of uniEU4-5Typically strategy or 4X
>>585920279JBest genetics, prettiest
>>585922624Did you- do you not know refuse is a noun as well as a verb? Jesus Christ, invoking "ESL" when you barely grasp the language.
>>585916278>Venator, Doorman, Lash>Master's degree>LATAM>1-2>yes
>>585920279Why the fuck is McGinnis so small in that image when she's built like heavy weapons guy in game
>>585902035>play deadlock>absolute slop matches, greatest skill diff in history vs greatest draft diff of today>everyone's sleepy playing this cheesy shit>one teammate leaves, the other goes afk and opens blender insteadI'm going to be honest, outside of the new map these 6 new heroes was just a net negative. Ignore ranked, can't even take this seriously in casual.
>>585922552implicitly a true melee hero would not have their left click be parry-able, silly. y'know. like the periodically-true melee character have in the game already (silver dog mode)?my thoughts are that there are enough characters with dogshit guns for confirms and it doesn't actually matter that much. i think a true melee character with a greatsword or some shit could work just fine even without any kind of projectile for last-hitting
hidden king intro is better because he does that crush his balls gesture with hand and has cooler jingle then archmothers
>>585916278Ok Mr Data Miner>Silver Yamato Graves>Master's in computer shit>EU>3-4 hours upper average>fps, hero shooters, MMORPGs, Dota and Hots
>>585923338Archmother needs way more sauce on her theme with the orchestral choir, maybe some drums or high pitched flutes or something to give her a more unique sound.
>>585923223how would you know a teammate went afk to open blender
>>585922735Knotting you mean
>>585920279Love Silver but damn, Pearadox is peak and also canon
>>585923454She's the Order to the Hidden King's Chaos. She is supposed to sound boring and flavorless.
>>585920279For me it's Silver
>*BELL SOUNDS*YOU'RE MINE>*TRUMPET SOUNDS*WHO'S THE KING OF THE RATS, BABY>*CHESS SOUNDS*BOW, BEFORE DE QUEEN>*EXPLOSION SOUNDS*I'M NOT FINISHED WITH YOU, YET>*RAPE SOUNDS*YOU WILL BE JUDGED>*SLEEP SOUNDS*SLEEP!
>>585923438>Data Minerit's more like data panning at this point lol
>>585923223Honestly Solomon is the most balanced of them all- and if anything a little weak. Danny is mostly infuriating and too matchup dependent to fight against more than anything else, but the other 3 are really overtuned.
>>585923665RUN FOR YOUR PITI-euggghhhh
>>585923665rolling!
>>585922914Post your Silver matches
>>585923665LONG MAY SHE REIGN
@yoshi, hook reset and heal on uppercut t5 removed, replaced with x5 melee damage multiplier on the uppercut
Mirage's Scarabs feel so useless
>>585924087They take your wife tho
>>585923665>PETRIFY>THE OL’ GORGON SPECIAL>YEAH, I DON’T PLAY FAIR >LIFTING>LIFTING>LIFTING>I’LL TAKE ON ALL O’ YA BLEUEUEUEUGJJGJGJJCJGH (beam noises) >LIFTING>LIFTING>BURN>LETS GO>LIFTING
GETTEM BOYS*entire team dies to the second paige ult*
>>585923530they said so>>585923749Solomon is balanced but is laughably terrible in readability, I don't want to fight against him. Just pisses me off, win or lose, flashing opaque vfx that eat the whole ground level.
I like Deadlock but it struck me that I really haven't played any hero shooters (class shooters don't count). Are there any good ones worth trying? Overwatch, Rivals, and Valorant look gay and retarded so those don't count
>>585924268>whole ground levelIf onlyYou need to fucking triple jump to not trip his bishop squares. Fucking dumb as shit hero
>Venator can just barely kill someone if he stuns them against a wall then cycle through his entire kit (including his ult) plus melee>people will swear up and down this is overpowered (then immediately queue as Baba)
>>585924360>is that an area of denial ability>WHY IS MY AREA BEING DENIED THIS IS BULLSHIT
>>585923618https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfDemd1Oj0IThis already sounds way better.
>>585923558Girls have no dicks, silly
>>585924340No
>>585924418Do you think its good gameplay that a square that looks like it's glued to the ground has a 5m tall hitbox with no indication?
Guys, I literally placed in Brick 3. Was I not supposed to do my placement matches until I had a bit more experience?
Give mirage 65 health per boon like mokrill
>>585924426good direction, but the melody is wayy too simple
danny needs like half the turning ability he has during dive that he does nowhe should NOT be able to 180 instantly it is insanely bullshit
Venator naked mod when
>>585920279Calico should not be that flat.
>>585924398He is good tho
>>585922914LMAO
>>585924268Fair. He’s the most balanced of the bunch, but he is crazy with the visual clutter. I could excuse it if it was unique to him to kind of reduce the map to a chess board, but the aoesloppification in general is too much>>585924360He’s a walking slug, forget the squares (that tickle) and just jump on him. All he has is midrange engagements. Literally Demoman, LITERALLY.
>>585924594nothing wrong with being a brick shitter, sport. just dont get lippy to your superiors
>>585924607Agree lowkey the scarab change away from flat hp was a nerf
>>585924594Season resets in a week so who cares
>>585920279As I always sayThe bigger the betterSo E>L>H>I>K>the rest
They need to do a hard elo reset because some of these niggas belong in brick
>>585922427This doesn't work because rusnigs select all available servers and languages to queue faster
>>585920279We should start heavily regulating art so I don't have to be mentally assaulted by the dogshit you guys post here
>>585924884>The bigger the better
>>585923665I'll get you settled.
>>585923665
>>585924985I've never seen a ranking system slaned this far towards the bottom, the bottom 3 ranks are 50% of the playerbaseidk what else you want
Honestly mirage feels like a poop carry. Yeah, being at range and ricochet-applying mark on the whole enemy team and then gassing them feels good until you realize that’s all he really can do (if he’s fed).Next time I play him I’m just gonna triple-down on Nature’s Prophet gameplay and go heroic aura, fleet foot, and maybe even fucking magic carpet just to maximize his rat factor (but honestly Rem is a better Rat than mirage is- those fucking helper buffs)
>>585924536fight for bridge control, congrats. he cannot get a bishop back up to the bridge. his only other option is to rush double bishops, but laning is already half over.
>>585923665>IN HERE>I AM KING
>>585925283Just because he's brown doesn't mean he has anything to do with poop, chud
>>585924398max ult and kill three people in a fight
>>585925395Do you think it's good gameplay that the invisible hitbox is much bigger than the visible hitbox?Yes or no? It's a simple question.
>>585925534yes
>>585923665WENOWYOUHAVE
Where is a good site to learn all of the frame data so I can start abusing the shit out of people during trades?
Time to get 15 wins on Violet
>>585925628https://cdn.deadlock.wiki/Lash_use_power4_01.mp3
>>585925283When Mirage first released, that was whay I assumed he was supposed to be played as. Just pick up a slowing hex and teleport in behind someone. Mirage isn't really my kind of hero but I think the playstyle still still fit him. Lategame his synergy with cursed relic should be pretty nutty as his main source of damage is naturally delayed.
I can't win with rat king this hero doesn't do anything
>>585925741See >>585925709
>>585925857immense skill isue
Why does ivy have more map pressure than mirage?
>>585925969Because she can bring someone with her
>see giant chess piece with glowy bits all over>durrrrrrr letz walk through it>AIE AIE AIE! AIIIIIE MI CABEZA, NO BUENO, SENOR ICEFROG, NERF NOOOOOOOOW
how many hours do i need to play to not use builds at all like Mikaels?
>>585926091>heh, you think this ability has a poor visual? you must be mexican o algo(You)>>585926189Depends on if you only do L->R builds or not. If you don't you will naturally learn how to build just by playing. If you do then it'll take a long ass time.
>>585925857you stand in front of your team and soak up damage for themif you're feeling like a real gamer you can press the 4 button
>>585926189like 100 hours and also depends on your skin color and IQ
>that feel when you’re in NYC at this exact moment and are forced to bask in how much of a shithole it is >everyone glazes over NYC as some sort of amazing enlightening jewel of the world >it’s just a shitholeThink I saw Rabies Ronnie looking at me from the tracks
>>585926284I am not accusing you of being mexican, I am accusing you of wearing a bumblebee suit and you happen to be mexican
>>585924418Yes yes we know you're a disingenuous faggot, no need to go whole hog about it
>>585920279>Paige>short and big tits>not evil, dangerous or a criminal>don't have to be a good conversationalist because she's happy reading books while I listen
>>585925431How do you even lose on Graves?
>>585926091ok nigger lover
>>585926397bro, it is not that difficult to fight against, same with danny that is somehow destroying this entire thread with a 45% win rate
>do this>can still fucking hear people talking in vc ingamewhy the fuck do the settings in this game not fucking work
its so hard to slot blood tribute into builds
>not even 2 weeks ago:>GRABES IS FUCKING SH T SHES FUCKING DOGSHIT THESE FUCKING 69 IQ GRAVES PLAYERS THROWING MY GAMES>now:>FUCKING 69 IQ GRAVES PLAYERS ABUSING THIS OP SPLOP CHARACTERSSo should I just not believe what anyone says about how good characters are?
>>585926718a high winrate build recently got popularized
>>585926371well you're wrong on both accounts retard so fuck off
>>585926718The people saying Graves is shit either don't play her, played her and got their shit pushed in, or just parrot what streamers say
>>585926718Average deadlock player thinks they're a temporarily embarrassed eternus who thinks they 100% know how to expertly play the game and will confidently state whatever
>>585926189MikaelS1 has builds, he just got them memorized and he knows at what points he can make a pivot. He also usually does a bit of testing by doing slight variations to gather data.He does vocalize his thought process. Pay attention to how he reasons about his green investments.
>>585926837the funny chess man shall reap more seethe from you
Imagine
Healing nova needs a buff
>>585926943have you asked him out yet
>when the wraith farms jungle without tesla instead of taking lane, instead of joining fights>47 minute matchLegitimately you cannot win if your carry is someone like this.
I long for a hero with a double barrel shotgun M1It always has two shots, there's no way to increase thatAll extra ammo from items and boons instead raises the amount of pellets in each shell
>>585927142move the movespeed from heroic aura to healing nova, and add a reload speed buff to the heroic aura active
>>585925857Rat king basically does everything- but because he’s not the best at one specific thing it doesn’t stick out as much. He’s good at everything. He tanks, he scales well as a carry, his gun is good, his laning is good, he m1s and lane clears well, he can push and farm well, rats help you and your team with damage, and ult is a big AOE ult great for ganking, team fighting, and/or escape. He’s the supreme generalist in a game of specialists.
>>585927371Post the rest of the endgame screen faggot
>>585927374sounds dumb, why not just give him more ammo
>>585927432Healing nova should buff stamina regen whilst the regen is active, make it small though
>>585927470Because double barrel shotguns are cool
I'm removing Radiant Regen from all my builds.>B-BUTDon't care. Not abusing broken items.
Going full mute and disabling voice makes deadlock a peak game. The biggest issue with MOBA is you have these fucking ego maniacal FREAKAZOIDS who are completely convinced they have "solved" deadlock and make these calls + telling people how to play the game and it ALWAYS ends up making things worse. Also take any graves player that proxies waves endless, put them into a van, take them to any body of water that runs down stream, and blow their shit off
>>585927614>Also take any graves player that proxies waves endless, put them into a van, take them to any body of water that runs down stream, and blow their shit offdon't care lmao keep coping
>Even game>rift about to spawn>My Infernus, who's the richest person on the team runs into 4 people under thair walker>starts sperging out about getting "no help"is there a mental disorder that can explain this?
>>585927567it would still shoot like a double barrel. abrams has a revolver shotgun and nobody cares that he can get to 20 or more shots
>>585927313the most emotions i see him show was when he got denied souls lol
>>585927614You wont do shit faggotI'd HEEM you
>Play Haze>Have more healing than my Harrow>Play Harrow >Have more dmg than my Hazesurely next game will be better....
>>585927703It's like people who obsess over the Garand ping in gun games. The coolness of a double barrel shotgun is the bang - bang - clack - reload - clack - bang - bang cycle.
Learning to play the lash is unironically one of the most fun times i’ve had in gaming for yearsRunning around like a crazy person looking for ganks, hitting a crazy 4+ person ult into slam into whip with reverb. Being able to dip out of a fight whenever i want. Man this character is fun
>3ed game in a row where some retard that went 1/10 in lane leaveAt sad part about this game that it almost seem winable if the rest of the team is competent.
>>585927814>heemwhat sex act is this
interesting.... very very interesting...
>>585927374>>585927567I know exactly why you think it'd be cool and I agree thematically it'd be cool but the idea of character with a gun with only one or limited number of shots that scales damage instead of ammo or fire rate would just be able to basically one or two shot people with their gun depending on their build and it would be a very big nightmare to balance. Gun shiv can already do like 1/3 of your health with his right click and it still feels very bullshit. There's a reason basically every gun hero Has a big magazine and high rate of fire And all of the shotgun Heroes Or Heroes with strong but slow projectiles have like 10 to 12 shots Per reload It's just the optimal number for an average character.
>>585926718The only reason Graves doesn't have 75% winrate is because Graves players are retards
There should be more anti-health items
>>585928264Lash is the best hero design in any moba.
>>585928494dispel magic just needs to be removed, and the dispel effect on it added to Unstoppable
>>585928264Playing spirit Lash on the current version of the map feels so bad. I miss all my rollouts and rooftops from the old one
>>585928674no
>>585926718Graves is broken up until Oracle, so both are simultaneously true.
If a match goes on long enough, every M1gger hero ends up being a delivery platform for Ricochet+Silencer+Inhibitor+Siphon Bullets. It's like the Deadlock version of all those random animals turning into crabs.
>>585928674yea dude yea actually can we just combine all items in the game? easily could cut the itemization in half and and have 0 build flexibility!!!! you are so fucking retarded
Doesn’t it concern Yoshi that every player is perma stacking spirit resist regardless of character? Like if spirit nuking is that prevalent shouldnt it be toned down?
>>585928891reducing damage is... le good???
>>585929018well the options are spirit nuking is good enough to require buying items against it, OR spirit is so unbelievably dogshit you can ignore every spirit characteryou can see why this would be a problem
>>585929061Yes? That's what my post says.
>>585929125>run into the enemy team like a monkey>diegood
>>585929125>i see an even teamfight going ontheres your problem you need to be looking for a 2v1 rape gank with anybody else or initiating the team fight yourself with said rape gank
>>585929229quite right, sir
Nerf Silencer
slowly rising to 100 matches played as graves
>>585929405it's fitting that the masters at /dlg/ spam the character where the skill floor is burning in hell
>>585929125I swear most people must play with something blocking the minimap, no one can understand when teammates are coming
>>585916278>Drifter, Rem, Danny.>high school.>Russia.>3-4.>yes.
How is there no patch yetSeriously HOW are they this slow??
Is there any reason not to buy counterspell every match?
>>585929684yes but I'm not telling you
>>585929014based brownbro giving his initiate opinion on the game
Watch the patch be some a whole bunch of nothings, small slaps on the wrists, bad heroes remain bad
>>585929472what
>>585929621i think you missed d2g bro
how'd they ruin the game in two patches holy fuck
>>585928891and every spiritimmy is just ee + boundless + reverb + spirit burn , there are just too few items in the game to promote variety
>>585929881post your rank or quit talking lil pup
is this violet character totally not overtuned?
Graves is the most skilled character.
Graves players think that they actually play the gameEveryone rolls their eyes when they see you retarded carried chimps
*does nothing in you're path*
>>585930191violet, rat king, nurse
>>585929125If you aren't willing to use your mic you shouldn't be playing characters that require communication. No one is looking at your annoying ass spam ping messages when more important things are happening. Press push2talk, say "I have ult I'm going to use it on x" and you'll drop 30kp every match.
valowatch tourists playing dota be like ugh none of these characters have to aim none of them take any skill
>>585930239I am NOT path but this item only serves as a counter to Plated Armor
>>585930254all of them take infinitely more skill than tardes
>win 4 games in a row>teammates get progressively worse in games 3 and 4>in 5th game my team literally has a guy who runs towards enemy tower, stands there getting killed, respawns, takes zipline and repeats, all game longforced 50 is a conspiracy theory btw
>>585930254you're not really proving your point by saying characters that actually have to do something. graves is just smooth brain. no think only farm
>enemy m1 rolls sharpshooter>you don't>game automatically loststreetbrawl is so close to being good bros
>>585917285>Infernus: So, you're the Djinn's bodyguard, right?>Mirage: ...>Infernus: Uh, hello? Can you hear me?>Mirage: Why nigger talking? They don't do that where I'm from. Must be an american thing...
>>585930293valorant is rng though, you can stand still and aim at the head of an unmoving target and 1 of 4 will not land where your crosshair is because of their special "recoil rng"
>>585929405Graves and Danny players both need to be taken out into the shed and be put down
soon
>>585930457this means 8 days btw
>>585930114>cheats
>>585930404it's so fucking stupid why did that make me laugh
>>585930457FakeGames EOS
>>585930353i bet i just raped you and you're seething. made you quit after crashing out on my graves gameplay. i'm CUMMING
death is cumming
>>585930457Damn I have to spam as many Rat KANG games as I can in the meantime.
>>585923665you forgot>DON'T MESS WITH NEW YORK
GUYS I GOT A MATCH WITH NO RAT KING
We should nuke the Djinn
>>585930670YOU WILL NOT TOUCH NASHALA
>>585930596>KISS MY ASS, MILDRED!!
>been on a 14 game loss streak>decide to unbind my chat buttons, mute my microphone and mute everyone else>first winit really works
>>585930574I’m hoping for the “rats reduce spirit resistance” buff so I can play endless rat spam rat king (which doesn’t work at all but it’s so much fun throwing endless waves of rats at the enemy team)
Graves has the highest winrate overall, she's one of the best in top 10%She's had high winrate since she releasedThere is no hero more carried than her, you don't even need to manage your macro just drop your tombstone and go do something elseIf you were at least honest about you abusing an overpowered hero I would have some respect for you
>>585930670>nuking Wyoming What the fuck did Wyoming do to you
>>585930730FOR THE DJIIINNNN!!!!
>>585930040The map designers are on roids and the hero designers are on gas station supplements. Deadlock team is like one beefed up arm and one noodle arm.
>>585930958I wish the necromancer minion hero required more input. Would be kickass if they had a hero that turned the game into an RTS style where you control minions like Dota- something like good old natural selection 2 where the FPS becomes an RTS for one character. CHEN when
>>585930958It reminds me how you had morons complaining about Celeste while calling Kelvin underpowered the same patch. Where they both basically had the same win rate, trading blows between Oracle -> Phantom -> Ascendant People don't want honest discussions, chilling when you realized these are the kinds of morons probably in experimental, hence this dogshit hero rollout.
>>585916278Yamato, Shiv, AbramsMastersEastern Europe (not Russia)3-4 games a dayYes I do
>>585930958This chart is really misleading with how bottom heavy ranks are in this game. Shouldn't look at top 10% you should be looking per rank info
>worst design art wise has the worst design gameplay wise and the worst design lore wise and is also made for literal retards to win onim losing all faith in the game violet is such a fucking travesty
>>585931440This all applies to Danny btw. Violet is actually engaging to play against and has counter items. Deadname Tranny ignores core game mechanics, anything that applies gravity and doesn't require any aim or skill to play.
I like Graves because I can play her with one hand
>>585931096gas station chinese viagra and MD 50/50
>>585930958I don't think the hero would be this good on the same build without all the new teamfight ults, they further centralise the game around rift and midboss where Graves was already good and create new points to fight in/away from that Graves can set up in and I think they should hold off on nerfing Graves again until after those get hit. But they also need to bite the bullet and just make Graves have to micro her summons with her right click like Solomon.
>>585931439When discussing if heroes are good or not, top 10% is the one of the best metricsProbably the worst metric is shit like nightshift matches because organized teams are not representative of anything but itselfBut honestly there's a case to be made for using phantom to eternus and look at that data, large sample size and filters out a lot of "skill issue" problems
>>585903614The deadlock devs were out of ideas when they made the game, considering that Pocket is literally just Puck + Venomancer and all the obnoxiousness that brings.
>>585931439>Tfw had 60%wr in ritualist VI>Update happens>Now I can barely maintain a positive wr playing my heart out in ritualist IThis rank is smurf city I tell you 'hwat.
>>585931440I like the drawing mechanic and I wish more of her kit was focused around that rather than having gargantuan damage for some reason and getting billions of stats with an ult that covers manhattan
>>585931440You misspelled "Rat King"Violet needs minor nerfs to her spirit scaling and Radiant Regen will nerf her plenty
>pick haze>backdoor 24/7>run away with 9999 movespeed + invisseems like easy win in shitter ranks, no ?
>>585902035Guess the heroes
>>585931908That would make sense if the devs didn't give a shit about game experience. Despite what you and I might think having terrorists in low elo is important to solve just because low elo is a majority of your player base. It's not uncommon especially in moba for dev teams to use low/mid elo (initiate to high ritualist/low emmisary) to balance the game. Yea it's going to fuck up high level and pro play but those players don't matter as much. You will never see the deadlock team make adjustments based on phantom or eternus.
How often do you think the devs lurk here?Also hi Yoshi buff Silver please she sucks
>>585932163Yes and works on Infernus too. Only issue is in low ranks people don't understand the importance of map pressure and objectives, so when your team BROOLs 5v6 in the middle of the map and loses, it's a coin flip whether or not someone loses their fucking mind and accuses you of griefing even though you used that time to kill walker and base guardians
>>585930457There will be placebo Violet nerfs to shut up crybabies and they won't save you from me.Im already so consistently good on her, I already made so many builds for any occasion, I already calculated all possible nerf paths for her that I will adapt within less than an hour. There is no escape.
>>585930457They better push the item overhaul before ranked season 2
>>585932361understood, nerfing silver
>>585932160her ult needs to be redesigned or deleted entirely
I am the only one that feels like teamfights over rifts are a waste of time?
I love hearing Vindicta say MOLEMAN! right before getting phantom striked and pounded.
how radical is the item overhaul gonna bei don't wanna relearn itemization
>>585932361prob hotpoo on occasion, some thread suggestions made it into the game like the exact number tweak to bloodtribute from a while back.
>>585932424>>585932160Why would they nerf Violet? She's not even top 10 currently. Only bricklow skillets complain about her
>seven thinks he's so smartwhat's holliday's problem
>>585932241Valve is one of the biggest faggots when it comes to balance changes, they "balance" the game almost exclusively for literally 0.01% of the playerbase
its so hard to read the minimap......... the icons are so tiny and stuff man................
>Spellslinger still not giving stacks when Haze uses smoke bombfuck these stupid monkey nigger devs
>>585931908Problem is that top 10% is not encompassing of 90% of the game. Top 10% should be balanced sure, but if things aren’t balanced in terms of skill-floor/reward ratio (Graves) or in terms of simple “fun” (surprise, playing agains Danny falls in this category) it doesn’t help the health of the game either. One of the biggest sins a potential “esports” game can do is to always balance around the top 10% instead of making things ‘fun’ across all skill levels first. Always balancing at the 10% causes the community to fall out and then you’re left with a game that has no community (so no esports) and a game that’s not fun to play (StarCraft 2- which is somehow making a small resurgence largely due to community efforts at balancing, adding new research techs, and tweaking risk/reward ratios)
>>585932748I wish you could maximize the map
>>585932834yea thatd be goodcan someone call gaben and tell him
>>585932923Sure, give me a sec
>>585932748The minimap needs to be updated at this point or allow us to customize it as we please. No I don't need to see camp locations. No I don't need to see a big hyperlines stretching across the map. You could easily just give me a pip on the map indicated how far deep my line is. You don't need mid in there. You don't need shop locations.
>>585905113>Enigma is a literal deity-grade space entity thing and acts the part>Dynamo is the nutty professor and acts the partWhat's the issue?
>>585932923i was invited to a dinner party at his house tonight i can ask him then
>>585931938>Pocket is a poison snake creature>Pocket vomits out slimy poison wards>WELL WARDED>MY LOYAL WARD>MMMMMHMMMMMMHMM>I ONLY… WANTED TO KILL EVERYONEUnironically would be the only logical basis for tranny’s “POCKET IS A THEY/THEIR” argument they’re spouting all the goddamn time
>>585932763No you shouldn't put too much emphasis on the casual level of play, pretty much every hero or strategy works at that levelYou need to focus on the upper 20-10% and not the cutting edge faggots playing with literal different rules from the rest of us.
ooog danny pressed 3 buttons and I instantly died with no counterplay again
>>585932628hopefully soon im not even trying to learn them until it comes out
>>585927613You're a lemming. Why did you have it in your builds in the first place if it's so oppressive even after it just got nerfed?
How long until you need 15 wins with the new heroes to play them in ranked?
I play Mina, Silver, Violet and IvyHaze players make me angry
Laning against a Haze is fucking miserable
>>585906329no
>put down my gravestone on the outskirts just as a fight starts>zombies immediately fuck off and go in the opposite direction
>>585933765Facing a haze/rem 'cord buddy lane is like pulling your fingernails out
>>585896807hey retard that skin released in 2019https://x.com/PlayOverwatch/status/1130508747800031232
They're right... I only farm as Graves... Farm their lame asses and watch them cry in all chat and here
>>585933827*ppfffthhtpfppfphhththhfhfhfhfhpp*
I haven't played in a while is beam Kelvin good again
>>585933996it's goodhe's not a terrorist anymore but its good
>>585917716Knockdown is a useless item against most characters in the game since it just gets dispelled. Phantom Strike is too expensive for being the only good anti-flyer item
>>585934363phantom strike is a core item for most frontliners, it's strong
>>585934363you can counterspell phantom strike too can't youneed to be psychic to pull it off though
>>585917674The chinatown bell tower kinda sucks ass compared to the purple fart gas zone
>>585933996quite good i'd say. make sure you buy heal bane
>>585921806Rem doesn't like chess and thus Solomon is mad that Rem is playing chess incorrectly on purpose>>585926501He probably encountered someone that actually knows how to play the game, which means he can't win on a stat-check hero like Graves (or Victor)
>>585933996All of Kelvin's builds are in a very comfy spot
I'm Rem!*shits on the floor*
>>585934517It's nearly impossible to do so, but yes, you can get lucky if you counterspell preemptively since the parry window is super generous.>>585934495It's good on a lot of them, even Rat King.
Who's your favorite character from the original roster?
>>585935026Ivy of course.
>>585935026hehehehehehehhehehehe you see dat shit?
>>585935026haze because they're the only actual gun character in the game
>>585916278>silver, seven, mina >in uni atm>NA>2-3, averaged out from bursts of playing a ton or a little depending on my mood for the week>currently? some fightan, one to two gachas on my phone, and xiv
>>585935026dynamothe original aoesloppa
Vindicta is for rape
>>585935026seven made me boot up the game for the first time after it sat in my library for months after getting randomly invited, he's too cool
>boots can now build into majestic leap>majestic leap now has sprint and regentake it or sneed it? would be nice if this item was viable
>>585935471when i majleap past her i like to imagine my hero getting a sneaky foot lick in
>>585935026I didnt give a shit about this game until they added celestethought it was just another flopped multiplayer attempt to add to the pile
>>585935649>majestic leap moved to t4 and can be used when damaged, albeit with lessened potencyfirst real nigga item added to the game
So who is getting the nerfbat?
>>585935026geist
>>585935671>Mo & Krill ultMating press>Billy 1Baseball-bat-handle-as-a-dildo masturbation>Abrams ultFull nelson
>>585935884why there isnt an nazi flag reaction to counterbalance the tranny flag emoji
>>585935884please gut harrow to the point she's unusable PLEASE
>>585935026Maximillién & Kévin, the sheer RAPE RAPE RAPE energy is unmatched.
>>585935884Silver
>>585935884Radiant Regen, Violet, and maybe small rework on Baba 2 to let parry do something to the duration.
>>585915494Why wouldn't you use it to waste 5 seconds of their time if you're going to die anyway? You are retarded
>>585935947go add one
>>585935026mo and krill, unironically we should have stopped adding heroes after the last batch of 6>>585936037based
what is it about pocket that attracts the biggest shitters ive ever seen
um technically this game is still in alpha so all the added characterless are still part of the original roster since the game isn't finished or released to the public yet
nice game dotards
How do people complain so much about Nurse Harrow ult when Violet's ult came out just a few days before and it's 10000000x more cancer?
when will vindicta address the feet situation in game?
phantom strike a blueberry today
>>585936386you are supposed to suck ass on him for 200 hours until it clicks and you become god, but they removed the part where he's god with DB spam this patch so only the sucking part remains
Once you reach Phantom and above, you realize Violet is very honest and balanced.
>>585935979I dont even know what they could change about her
there's something inherently wrong with the design of the game when multiple heroes need to spend 800/1600 souls to improve their bullet speed
Once you reach Phantom and above, you realize Harrow is very honest and balanced.
>>585933996he's in a fantastic spot rapes ratking though you may want to swap off if there is a baba.
>>585936854This but stamina mastery
Suppose...a hero...who can...shoot a sort of bouncing damage dealing thing like a less big celeste ult...and a sort of pin where if they're close to an obstacle it pins them to it...and a mobility tool where they get easier pathing...and then a snipe where they charge it up and shoot it along a straight trajectory with damage being based on the time charged
>>585936516nurse harrow is invincible and you literally lose all agency just by looking at her or have to turn your back and get ass raped by the enemy team without being able to fight back. With violet you can atleast shoot her and her teammates to death and retain control of yoru character outside of the silence.The new heroes basically fucking ruined the game by all being bullshit OP with stacked kits with the possible exception of solomon whos just annoying
>>585936928i think thats better design actuallyyou spend 3200 and forego other defensive greens in favor of better movementnot everything needs to be a stat stick
>>585936854bullet velocity as a stat should be removed and they should balance characters around their bullet speed.
>>585937002>nurse harrow is invinciblejust interrupt her ult lol
>>585936991that's boho with witch docta cask and the stroker hero pin that got scrapped because everyone hated it
>stare at venator for over 2 seconds before weaving in a random light melee>frame perfect parry>"seems legit">"teehee youre billy you spam light melees of course i parried you x3"is this character just completely unplayable until it gets a better anticheat
>>585937091this kills the paige lane
>>585937160If they didn't parry every light the whole match then they weren't cheating and you're a paranoid faggot who got btfo
they should rework this game to be a 1:1 copy of league so that people will stop complaining :)
>>585937121yeah but the dude was asking why people think shes more giga cancer, honestly her healing is bullshit more than her ult but still this game needs less rape your entire team AOE ults that let you steamroll teamfights
>>585935884Violet, Baba, Rat King, Danny, Nurse, Solomon and Radiant Regen
>>585937268Many are saying this!
notice how no one complains about rat king or danny
>>585937160Why are billy players so fucking retarded
>>585936772massive nerf to her healing to bring her down to Rem's levelchanging how the ult fear works so it takes longer to build up and falls off quicker and you can't be feared more than onceremoving invuln from her ult
>>585937493they identify with him being a low iq antifa furry character
>>585937438There are several people in this thread complaining about both of those heroes and danny just happens to have a legion of shills telling you that phantom strike not countering him despite grounding every other hero is ackshually balanced because 45% winrate or something despite the fact that he got a massive buff and completely rapes certain matchups and thats a problem in itself
reduce harrows ult cone to less than 10 degrees and have all of her healing max out at 1
>>585937779what matchups does he rape
>>585937839mo and krill, apollo, viscious, calico, abrams to name a few
>>585938110>literally all annoying fucking characters not a single one thats even tolerable good fuck you
>>585938221>deadman danny faggot complaining about abramslmao nigga really? and calico? who the fuck complains about calico? shes a garbage hero with nothing in her kit? Billy, victor, infernus, silver also cant do shit vs him.
I FUCKING LOVE COLLECTING LEECHES!!!!!!I WISH THE CAP WAS HIGHERI'LL TRADE A NERF SO THE EFFECT/CAP IS HALVED AND DOUBLED JUST SO I CAN COLLECT MORE LEECHES!!!!!!
>>585904242I like it on hybrid Celeste
>>585938375>who the fuck complains about calico? shes a garbage hero with nothing in her kit?Dishonest fucking downplaying faggot we should cut out your tongue inshallah
>>585938110>cube against hero with incredibly telegraphed damagewhat
>>585938375I've played Danny like twice everyone you listed is annoying as fuck and I would never feel bad if they were going "NOOO HE COUNTERS ME AND MAKES ME USELESS!" because of how fucking annoying they are to play against now that they're the ones getting shit on they wanna whine? nah fuck you
>>585937160and what exactly can viscous do to danny after he's cubed said damage
>we have to nerf danny because...>he counters makrill and victor...
WHERE'S THE BALANCE PATCH YOSHI YOU FAT FUCK
>>585938689meant for >>585938607
Ugly bastard doujin starring Mo with help from Krill to rape Billy and Apollo.
gj valve
>>585938991Thought I was the only one with crazy long match queues
>>585902035fun game i love this :DDDDenemy team had a somewhat suspicious player, checked their steam, it was filled with comments calling them a hacker, they had a link to their twitch and youtube in their profile as wellso i checked them out, and what do you know he was just streaming with aimbot and wallhacks on, a fucking auto-sinner script as wellsure okay i will report them whatever, and when the match ends im hit with this fucking red little square :DDDDDthank you for reading my faggy little blog post about my worthless faggot life
>>585916278>harrow, danny and silver>law degree>NA>3ish street brool games, 1-2 standards if buds are on>rivals, I like daredevil and magik
>>585938991Solo or party?
Here I come!
>>585938991Cut or uncut?
Anyone else getting random disconnects
yoshi is about to send his strongest soldiers to make sure i dont get the last 7 wins i need to unlock ranked
>>585938689Alone? Not muchWith an ally? Rape the dumbass skeleton who just stunned and damaged himself and lost his only mobility tool
>>585938607You can avoid his damage but viscious doesnt have many options for fighting back because his of his slow ass goo gun and his punches are also very telegraphed>>585938523>nigger downplaying a hero hard>telling me to stop downplaying a weak ass heroher fucking entire kit is a meme outside of her ultimate which is also just a slightly buffed version of etheral shift>>585938661Your a shitter if a solid 20% of the roster who are varying degrees of meta is "annoying as fuck" to you
>>585940036>calico is weak and a memedid you just install 2 weeks ago?
Is Dynamo honest?
>>585940240he's the most honest of the teamfight heroes
>>585940240lollmao
>>585940240quantum entanglement is BULLSHIT why is that button so STRONG
>>585939992>who just stunned and damaged himself and lost his only mobility toolstunned and damaged himself with what? you know hitting the cube still counts as a hero hit?
>>585916278anyone replying to this with genuine information should be offed from the gene pool
>>585940240I feel like Stomp is a little bit crazy
>>585937160i had a lobby where i shit you not every person on the enemy team had a parry botpeople backflipping through the air doing three blind parries in a row consistentlyi should just install one myself and quit complaining
>>585940116Did you? when the fuck was the last time you saw a calico? Maybe like fucking months ago before a ton of heroes got powercreeped, she doesnt get picked anymore in high ranks.
>>585938991like every valve game the player count is botted and the real number is way lower
>>585940240Out of all the retard "Press 4 to win" yeah, him and Lash are the most well designed.
>>585940458im a researcher not a glowie. i've already discussed this. >>585918908
>>585940240I used to think he was dishonest, but after these new AOE slop heroes yeah he's honest.
>>585940496she was meta like a month ago, and she always pops up when her numbers get buffs, nobody cares if danny counters calico, I assure you
>>585940624lowkey glowsyou could've made an anonymized poll
>>585940116Her box routes got fucked by the heavy box changes. She's still playable but she's fallen off hard
If Silver is so bad then why does she dominate every single game I'm in
>Shiv spends 20 minutes bitching at me for "doing nothing but farming">Match ends>Most player damage most objective damage highest kills lowest deaths
>>585940698There are too many factors at play. Like previously discussed the best option would be to kidnap Graves and MoKrill players to disect them but that isn't legal, unluckily
>>585940785if you're playing pocket you shit out damage just for showing up, who do you play
>>585940240his 1 and 2 are degenerate enough to make people build around them at one point in time so no
>>585935884Please delete Baba
>>585940801I think an anonymous Google Forms would've been enough, and with the benefit of linking it to multiple sites like plebbit and discord.Honestly I'm just yanking your chain, but this site has post history and account data invisible to ordinary users but visible to mods and (some) feds, so I'd rather just not give that shit out.
>>585940767Just buy disarming hex retard
>harrow in jeet brool>gets Infinite Roundsi dont think theres any item + hero combo thats more funny
>>585926718>>not even 2 weeks ago:>>GRABES IS FUCKING SH T SHES FUCKING DOGSHIT THESE FUCKING 69 IQ GRAVES PLAYERS THROWING MY GAMESI have been telling you these people were wrong the whole time
what does holiday do? im not doing some donkey kong barrels on a pod and some lasso shit is just buildign gun for headshots vialable
>>585940865I think what happened is whenever a teamfight ended I would immediately ult to push anywhere that looks good to push. Assuming Shiv was one of those players accustomed to immediately looking for someone to blame the moment their screen turns gray he would have died, checked minimap, saw me killing green walker and felt his blood pressure surge
>>585926718i shilled capacitor graves for 2 months and everyone i knew who played graves told me i was an idiot and gun graves is terrible
ults that need a rework:celestehazevioletmirage rat kingsinclair
>>585941174if you hit all headshots it's legit OP
>>585941174crackshot scales with spirit hope that helps
>>585940519Why would you bot deadlock?
>>585941174go back to gun geist lil skillet nigga
Mikuginnis
Mirage ult should be a 5m aoe at his feet and it will take teammates with him if they stand in it
>>585941339For the lootboxes
what streamer started playing gunfernuswhy is he in my gameswhy is he always useless
>>585941463YES but he has to stand still to channel it for a short time. He can also be blue all over, to visually show how supernature and magical he is
>>585941526>gunfernusas in what gun items?
>>585941339why do they bot 1.6 and source
mirage should empower the player/building when teleporting to them including the patron
>>585941597do they bot 1.6 and source?
>>585941540>he has to stand still to channel itNTA but he doesn't? never played him but wtf that's OP
>>585941587as in only gun items.the only spirit item he got was boundless.he got fucking recharging rush, like what are we doing
>>585941720Recharging rush is unironically core on infernus, he has two charge abilities
>>585941741>>585941741>>585941741
>>585941339>>585941664you are replying to a schizodisengage. i repeat: disengage!>>585941824Nah, you're smoking dick and balls. Just get rapid recharge (which he also didnt get, mind you)
>>585925702link? all I can find is the apron + catgirl as separate files so assuming it's custom
>>585941910You literally get 2 charges per proc it’s better on him than anyone else
>>585942024Holliday mogs him for Recharging Rush use since she only needs one crackshot to proc it.
>Specter crash can damage you through ethereal shiftKirkenuinely how is this ability not a grief button?
>>585942561Haze can cleanse it with 2
Paige is fun, bros
>>585941664they do yes>>585941910sorry youre probably one of those tf2 players in denial the games population is actually like 2k
my lash bought refresher but didnt press his ulti for the last 15 min of the gameim literally going fucking insane manwhy do i get the dannys that buy these items while the enemy is going 20-0 dropping fat mans on me
>>585908352I never noticed Mina asymmetric face because I was too notice looking at her fat ass.
