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#1338: Moon witch Edition

Previous: >>585500257
This general is for the discussion of original, fan made, or look-alike Mega Man games as well as original titles developed by Inti Creates.

>/mmg/ news
Mega Man Starforce Legacy Collection out now https://youtu.be/PTct687LRmQ
Mega Man Dual Override releasing spring 2027 https://youtu.be/6_70fT8aEMM
Proto Man trailer https://youtu.be/f9w_Q7XpB-s
Mega Man collab with Fortnite available now
Mega Man X Command Mission coming to PS+ Classics
Steam leak revealed the full achievement list for MMDO
Tank Man revealed at Paris Games Week

>Fan game news
Mega Man X Regenesis
https://youtu.be/1FDp3u8uMcE
Mega Man Wily Tower NES
https://youtu.be/U6ofONZSIvc
Mega Man Maker
https://youtu.be/Q10CIIGODdg
Mega Man Zero Remake
https://youtu.be/4necFQJGk50
MM8BDM
https://youtu.be/HpSl5uy2L2s
Mega Man Sequel Wars
https://youtu.be/KzzsfE2rHZk
Mega Man Zero 3 Remake
https://youtu.be/TKYr5-I5-jo
Mega Man X Co-Op
https://youtu.be/chlM1e5z2F0
Mega Man X Innocent Impulse
https://youtu.be/s_j8zNumhv4
MM7 Style Mega Man Remake
https://youtu.be/oF_PYB3_YVY

>/inti/ news
Gunvolt Chronicles Luminous Avenger iX 3 coming in 2027 https://x.com/GunvoltOfficial/status/2100781876482900054
Gunvolt Trilogy Enhanced Switch 2 Edition and Gunvolt GX out now https://youtu.be/v-Eulp_puU0
Gal Guardians SotD Switch 2 port releasing 01/28/2027 https://youtu.be/u9leagIvb6k

>Other:
Translations of Classic mangas on mangadex
Mavericks are not allowed

>DiVE Links
rentry.org/xdaibu (game, emulators and other stuff)

>Koikatsu
rentry.org/mmgintikk

>Melt Stuff
rentry.org/mmelt melt 2 its real

>Game Downloads
rentry.org/mmglinks
Has all MM games, MN9, romhacks, patches + BN cia files

>Audiovisual Media
rentry.org/mmgintimedia
Contains:Cartoons, Anime, Comics, Manga and other printed media - Music Playlists and albums
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Copen won.
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>>585874093
Nice harvest moon!
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RiCO won.
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>>585874281
You mean that NiCO knockoff?
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>>585874093
Bake stolen...again. by the Lunafag...again.
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>>585874093
At least have the decency to call it you doushe. Last time you did this you got both sides nuked.
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>>585874573
At least the bake he made this time isn't riddled with mistakes. Go with it.
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Inti redemption arc soon
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Post genie butts
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>>585875021
Shantae, my favorite Mega Man extended universe character!
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>>585874902
Was the time prison a meta-commentary on how Inti has been trapped in GV3 rereleases, just like how GV3 was a meta-commentary on how Inti felt bad for how edgy GV1 and GV2 were?
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>people only get hyped for MM12 when they reveal a female robot master
how can capcom get people interested in the game for the next 6 months
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>>585875593
Capcom let her go. And that's the only thing that kept the character alive.
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>>585873191
For good reason, she's pretty much Copen's thematic half. Even though the GV2's primary narrative centers around Joule, those two represent opposite sides of the exact same ideological coin. Their identical trauma are both rooted in the total betrayal by the opposing demographic.
Copen inherited a dark prophecy and interpreted his father's death as absolute proof that adepts are inherently unstable and dangerous monsters, and therefore locked his worldview into a rigid binary of "humans good, adepts evil."
Zonda likewise experienced a mirrored version of Copen's revelation. Severe hostility, poisoned food, and abuse from baseline humans convinced Zonda that humans are inherently savage, cruel, and incapable of coexistence. Thus locking Zonda's worldview into its own binary of "adepts good, humans evil."

Gunvolt's advocacy for peace feels hollow when the narrative presents him as this compassionate defender of humans and adepts alike, even while his primary method of conflict ending is Total Adept Death and he's just given a human onahole in Quinn - the token "good human" - to justify his belief in human-adept coexistence without doing any of the actual political or societal work to make that peace a reality.

But if Copen and Zonda, the two absolute extremes of the conflict, were the ones to actually drop their weapons, it would serve as the ultimate, undeniable proof that peace is possible. It would show that if the two people with the deepest scars and the most intense hatred can find common ground, anyone can. We'd have some actual hope for redemption. Rather than ending the series with the message being "hatred is an inescapable vortex that destroys everyone," I think a much more narratively satisfying conclusion would've been "Breaking the cycle of violence requires the immense courage to forgive the unforgivable."

It's such a shame those two didn't get more development with each other. They deserved more.
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>Shingo Izumi: At this time, there are no plans to do so. However, as mentioned in a prior response, when we consider new collection projects in the future, a Mega Man Legends collection would also be one of the possible candidates.
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>>585877201
Kinda my thoughts, but I think GV's ineffectual portrayal was purposeful. He is told several times that Quinn is a dumb argument. Tenjian and Zonda themselves are willing to accept that there are good nonadepts (Tenjian in conversations with GV and Zonda in audio dramas and her statements concerning QUILL). However, they still see nonadepts as a massive net negative for adepts and believe that one side will cause the extinction of the other.

Like with Nova, GV is not able to adequately push back against them. He lacks a counter-plan or counter-ideology to throw theirs into doubt. He cannot empathize with why they feel the way they do, as he lives in a relatively "peaceful" country (it's a bit of an inconsistency, as he can empathize with Copen and why he's genocidal). There are points where he is unable to respond to them and needs Xiao to juice him up. But he isn't really there to convince anyone, just kill them. And in a way, just like Nova, Zonda was proven right when GV hurt Quinn.

Also, in GV2, he's solidly in the anti-adept camp as he holds them mostly responsible for the race war, probably as an over-correction to Asimov. He's not genocidal, but he takes X's attitude that the only reason normies hate the special people is because they abuse their powers. If adepts didn't fight back, then nonadepts would stop their violence. That's why he's okay with total adept death and considers things wrapped up when he annihilated Eden.
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>>585874093
Luna!
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>>585877201
>coexistence is a pipedream, hatred can never be overcome
>differences can only be resolved with violence
>understanding cannot be reached; the only way to deal with an enemy is to kill all of them
>vengeance is good if directed at the right targets
>deeper societal problems will never be meaningfully addressed
>even with superpowered heroes, the elite will never be held accountable for their crimes
>children are the sacrifice that keeps the world running
>redemption is impossible, even for children; mercy is foolish and will lead to death
>any attempts to fix anything will only make everything worse
>there is no hope

Don't think they thought this through, but that's the note GV2 ended on.
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So what do we do once (IF) Inti Creates puts out more little girl pussy for us weebs to violate with our cocks?
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>>585878952
>Also, in GV2, he's solidly in the anti-adept camp as he holds them mostly responsible for the race war,
I don’t buy this at all. It’s one or two lines getting taken out of context, no different than the old racist Kirin meme.
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>>585878952
It's so fucking annoying how frequently everyone subjects GV to heavy ideological lecturing or personal mockery, and Gunvolt almost always takes it like a bitch and internalizes the criticism or responds with quiet resignation rather than a fierce defense of his actions. Sure I don't expect him to have a sweeping, neatly packaged political manifesto ready to counter anyone's rigid worldviews, but you know, say something. At least show some conviction and defend what you're fighting for.
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>>585879802
Good lessons to teach early on. Not sure if they absorbed it through the score attacks
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>>585876446
It was a meta commentary about Inti customers being suckers to buy GV3 so many times
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>>585876490
Desert Woman.
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>>585880865
GV usually just shouts that they're wrong, they're evil, and that he's going to kill them, and then kills them. Afterward, he chats up one of his pals about how it was a job well done and discusses what he's getting for dinner afterward. It's not like he's just taking it. He spends most of GV1 and GV2 telling his enemies that their issues were made up excuses to be evil douchebags, and then in the next game, he finds out that they sorta had a point, even if they were addressing it badly.
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This finger witch. Spoilers for Majogami, I guess.
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>>585876490
Jump the shark.
>Zero and X cameos
>Playable Roll
>Final boss rush sends you to all the different Willy castles
>Sand Woman will be a goth witch
>Bass is a mix between every podcaster that the core values comitee hate
>Tripple Gear
>Make the Darkstalkers ultimatum
>Have Protoman kill Abraham Lincoln
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>>585879802
The best part? Our heroes face a complete ideological defeat by the very concepts Zonda embodies. Especially in the Copen route. Even though Copen defeats Zonda physically, Zonda wins the philosophical war by forcing him to become the ultimate realization of her worldview. Zonda's philosophy was that baseline humans are inherently savage, merciless monsters who will always hunt and destroy what they do not understand, and Cope validates that perfectly. Acts exactly like the bloodthirsty human savages Zonda claimed ruled the world.
And not just that, Copen’s primary anchor to his humanity was Mytyl. When Mytyl awakens, she does not recognize Copen as her savior. Instead, influenced by Joule's lingering consciousness, she actively shields Gunvolt, telling Copen to stay away from her "precious person".
And the best part? The one other person he trusted, Nori, was secretly working behind the scenes with Xiao, effectively orchestrating the exact environment that shattered Copen's life. All so Gunvolt could get a new chance at a better life down the line.
He didn't just fail to destroy Zonda's ideology; he was consumed by it so entirely that he came to alienate one human being he was fighting to protect. Copen's story ends with him spiritually, emotionally, relationally and ideologically cucked. At least GV gets a do over, Copen gets nothing.

Gunvolt 2 was just so bleak.
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>>585881939
>>585879802
You can kinda see why the staff at Inti didn't like it. It was way too grimdark for even them. If they had more time, you might have had a sort of Elpizo like ending for Zonda where she realizes she's wrong or GV and her reach an understanding as she dies, or something to imply that people could change, although it'd be tragic, but everything in the end game was clearly rushed. While it matched the mood of the finale, Belladan was a chore and the worse set of end levels in Gunvolt. The writing was bleak depression kino though.
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https://github.com/Wrexxial/HarmonyRecomp
harmony of despair recomp
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>>585875021
>Sample
Noticing Lunagroid.
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>>585881939
>>585879802
>>585877201
Inti is not based enough to give us a fun story where these two mutually deradicalize each other. Zonda and Copen would have an entertaining dynamic if they weren't at each others throats. They're almost like complete opposites in ideology, personality, and background.
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>>585883931
>excludes the three main Mega Man Legends entries
>three
well well well
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>>585883931
So Legends is not happening.
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>>585877201
Zonda also slots in as Mytyl and Joule's counterpart. Her older brother is both a blue man who uses swords, and a white haired turbo racist hardass who's a softie to his sister. Zonda is versatile like that.
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>>585883668
From the thumbnail it looks like she has her tongue out.
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>>585884690
misadventures counts as a full main entry
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>>585881670
I'm almost sure everybody here has played that.
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>>585888849
I've seen people picking up Gunvolt recently. It can't hurt.
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When you realize Cyanotype (GV1 true ending credits) is basically the story of GX/GV3:

>Falling apart with a roar
>This world devoid of color
>Is filled with a burst of light
>Upon your arrival

>But I still feel a little nervous, you know
>In the face of an uncertain future
>But I know for sure that it will be a bright one
>Because you're here with me, and I know it'll be just fine

>But I still feel a little nervous, you know
>In the face of an uncertain future
>But I know for sure that it will be a bright one
>Because you're here with me, and I know it'll be just fine

>Everything has changed
>In this world dripping with color
>Within this vivid light
>I'll live on with you

>I'll live on with you

Inti always surprises you with the most dumbfuck writing ever sandwiched with some really clever writing.
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>>585888797
cube pushing gods won
then again, the AI note fucked up
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>>585889739
They even meet in the world depicted in the album art.
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>>585881939
HAHAHAHAHA! fuck man, I never even realized that!

>>585882363
Man these convos put a lot of shit into perspective.
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>>585881939
>>585890238
>Do not underestimate humans, vermin. You think you've seen the extent of our spite, that you can match our hate, but you know nothing of the bottomless malice within the human heart.
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>>585890474
Oh the beautiful irony, that he's saying this to another human.
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If love is both fuel and food to the angels. Then what is NTR to them?
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>>585890840
Or that he had a plan B on the backburner to let go of his humanity just to keep his crusade going.
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>>585889739
>>585889839
And this Gunvolt 3 promo art looks like Joule keeping GV asleep in the Time Prison.
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Does the EXP for gear in GV2 go up based on enemies defeated or simply missions completed? Can I just keep sodomizing Tenjian with chains in a fraction of a second in mission 2 to grind them out fast?
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>>585895347
Exp scales based on the type of enemy killed, but I wouldn't know if grinding a boss is faster than stage enemies or not.
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>>585883931
this pack doesn't include the starforce collection either iirc, why are legends fans so sensitive
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>>585877201
>his primary method of conflict ending is Total Adept Death
I've always had the theory that GV has a lowkey self-hatred of adeptkind, due to his early life as a miserable lab rat. He'd have been a perfectly happy, normal boy if never granted power.
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>>585883668
>deradicalize
Pantera doesn't actually want to kill all non-septimals, she's just aware many would rather die to oppress and murder adepts so she'd give adepts the power to defend themselves.
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>>585899742
>her actions will directly result in non-adept genocide
>she doesn't WANT that doe :^)
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>>585902375
Yeah.
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Inti X Castlevania with yearly releases
if Konami were smart, we'd get that
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>>585904420
What would Inti do with Shanoa? Or Charlotte?
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>>585904420
They really should, I doubt Konami hasn't taken a look at the Curse of the Moon games.
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>>585902375
It'll only end in mass casualties for those actively hunting down and oppressing adepts and those minos that don't hate adepts.
Yeah let's not forget non adepts killed more minos than adepts did.
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>>585904493
Pre-order bonuses.
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Star Force if it had a good MC
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>>585907808
swords users should never be an MC in megaman, no not even zero
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>>585895176
Lev doesn't look very happy about that.
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>>585899781
soulless
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>>585881704
The only way the series ever jumps the shark is if they make the "zero kills classic man and protoman" fan theory canon
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>>585909870
So if Proto Man were to kill Abraham Lincoln you would think "meh just another classic final boss"
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>>585874093
>Luna OP the day when Crapcom announced that they want to forget about Starforce and Legends
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>>585885360
give it 3 years, if its not out by 2029, its truly over.
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>>585874093
No "full collection" in the OP
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>>585874093
The moon is right
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>>585910507
starforce collection is too new to be part of that mega bundle, maybe in a year or two
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what lore was revealed in GX?
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>>585912214
Capcom "forgot" to count it on their sales report.
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>>585912808
Xiao's Septima and backstory, the full context behind the endings of GV3, Joule/Mytyl's soul lingering into the Muse Septima within Xiao's special locket.
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>>585898610
A lot of adepts are eccentric, loud, and love fighting (most effective way to have a heart to heart and build nakama). GV is super serious, cold, and mature, and he doesn't like playing games. If he gets into a fight, it's to the death. So yeah, he can't stand them. He seems to be pretty annoyed with even allied adepts like Zeno. By GV3, he's become a lot more tolerant towards adept quirks, and even embraced some of them.
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>>585913104
Does it set up the next game?
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finished X4, 5 and 6
is X7 truly as bad as its reputation paints it
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>>585906962
Why is she pulling my nipples
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>>585913201
Yes and no
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>>585913152
It's set between the bad and true endings of GV3 so not really, we still don't know where GV ends up in the new timeline and in what condition. There is one new element but it's pretty vague, Luxia is attempting to make contact with GV.

>>585913201
I don't think it's frustrating or broken in an unplayable way, it's mostly just basic and extremely mediocre because they couldn't get the hang of 3D level design and combat and kept them way too simple. Which is odd since they'd already made DMC by then.
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>>585881939
>Copen: Nori....I'm already a demon.
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>>585913570
X7 and DMC 2 released the same year Capcom was cursed that time
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It's so simple.
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>>585914416
Also Battle Network 4 and Battle Chip Challenge
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>>585913201
its clunky as fuck but not unplayable
the slow move isnt an issue when stages are so short anyways
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>>585914813
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>>585914813
Why Yoshiko the fisherwagie is there?
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>>585918404
spiral power rising
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>>585918369
wagie implies that she gets paid.
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Let her in, whe only wants candy
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>>585914813
Reminder that even after all these time Beck remains the only true friend Gunvolt ever had.
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>>585920059
Get in line.
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So what now? We sorta ran out of content until either iX3 or MM12.
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>>585923321
Just make your own content.
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>>585923321
ahem
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>>585923321
Legends undub melts
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>>585927349
Migu Legends...
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>>585927349
did we do shitalian legends or only X4
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>>585913201
Play the n edition, it fixed a lot of stuff
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>>585930576
Just x4 I think
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she likes to lick the lollipop
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>>585874093
It might just be recency bias but I think I like GX's gameplay more than base GV3, and I already liked it quite a bit there to begin with.
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>>585893020
It was all planned from the start.
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>>585895347
>Can I just keep sodomizing Tenjian with chains in a fraction of a second in mission 2 to grind them out fast?
That's how I did it for GV, Copen doesn't have it as easy.
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>>585931623
>
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>>585923321
iX3 news mid December, I LOVE DROUGHTS
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>>585932083
>doubting ze plan
ngmi
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>>585931294
I just replayed all the games back to back before GX and it really feels like the apeX (said in Maxwell Powers' voice) to the point I wonder if they can match it going forward.
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>>585931294
This GV is certainly better than GV3's, if nothing else. Kinda wish there was a Dnizer-like mode to play with this GV.
I'm not sure I like Copen's EX weapons here though. Two of them just seem like speedrun memes, three of them are braindead iframe spam tools, and none of them let you cancel out of a wheel combo (not that you need to when you're invincible, but...).
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>>585877201
Do you think she spends hours in front of the mirror playing with her illusions?
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>>585933116
It always comes back to Copen's EX weapons being kinda useless at worst and only circumstantially okay at best. It doesn't help that even after 12 years, Copen's primary gameplay loop still consists of bashing his face into enemies with no variation while Gunvolt is basically Super Kirin with all that entails, having successfully added natural extensions to his core kit as time went on.
At least that's how I feel. Copen has to work his ass off to even remotely compare to what Gunvolt can just do at base now. It really just comes down to one character having evolved and grown out of his original limitations, and the other not having fundamentally changed or evolved how he plays since 2016. You could argue he only regresses.

Maybe it's a contrast in design philosophy. With Gunvolt it seems like they're going "How can we make GV feel more powerful and seamless?" and with Copen it's "What Megaman sub weapons can we lock him down with next?"
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>>585937035
>Copen has to work his ass off to even remotely compare to what Gunvolt can just do
Its appropriate.
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>>585937035
Well, the problem here isn't that Copen is weak, it's that he's powerful in a really boring way. For all the cool new stuff GV has here, none of it compares to that "press button, be invincible" that Copen has here.
Also, while I'm bitching about the EX weapons, how the FUCK is Prado's weapon gimmick not that it changes properties based on the direction you're facing? The obvious gimmick was right there, what's this "swing both swords" bullshit???
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>>585937973
>changes properties based on the direction you're facing
Too hard to code
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>>585932285
It’s just gonna be old Gunvolt news and probably them talking about how they feel like they’ve done something truly groundbreaking with the series. Snoresville.
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>>585937696
Sure, from a thematic standpoint the asymmetry is great. The problem is that balance and gameplay wise, it turns Copen into a chore where you work twice as hard for half the result. It really highlights just how little actual development he's received despite being playable in twice as many games. EX weapons truly are a massive bottleneck.
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>>585939141
>like they’ve done something truly groundbreaking with the series
But they have, they speedran a new IP to maintenance mode in record time. It took Mega Man 25 years to get to the point where the only things to look forward to are collections and rereleases.
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>>585931146
good taste Pandora
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>>585935347
I wonder how "The Lustful Mirage" plays with her own illusions.
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>sin of lust
>look inside
>It's actually just a deep compassionate love
How unintentionally poetic of Inti.
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Dangerous Beast?
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>>585932663
It feels like the basis of what GV4 would play like, if they ever bother to continue the series. First time where GV actually felt "right."
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>>585914813
If I understood it correctly, the real Copen returns straight to his world after iX2, while the amnesiac one in GX is just his Image Pulse, copied by Xiao via The Muse locket and thrown into a simulation inside Gunvolt's dream.
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>>585943502
she finally lets her fgo addiction bleed into her works huh
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>>585943502
I recognize that fur collar!
Oh no!
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>>585943858
They only say Copen and Lola's minds entered the Time Prison while their bodies are returning from Mother's world through Null's wormhole. They could always make them forget the events of GX in iX3 though that would be really boring.
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>>585941214
Throws parties for other adepts, like she did in Eden's Party, or pranks/trolls them like in CnC.
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>>585939141
>It’s just gonna be old Gunvolt news
They could talk about that now so why wait nearly two months?
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>>585891331
The forbidden fruit and the ultimate allure. As beings wo work tirelessly to meet quotas for "pure, wholesome love", the absolute chaos, raw intensity, and messy drama of NTR represent everything they are denied. It is dangerous, unpredictable, and completely intoxicating to them. A dark and captivating temptation that offers an instant rush of forbidden energy. Just like the classic biblical myth, taking a "bite" of this forbidden fruit would mean instant spiritual corruption. For an angel, indulging in or intentionally causing NTR would result in the shattering of their halo.

Although you could easily imagine a strict rule-follower like Ekoro having it as a guilty pleasure and keeping a hidden stash of human NTR manga under their desk, claiming it is strictly for research purposes to understand human sin while sweating profusely. She'd then go on to masturbate profusely while watching Shinobu get cucked by her own sister.
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>>585939378
>EX weapons truly are a massive bottleneck.
Which is ironic considering how stagnant Zero's gameplay was in Zero/Zx series.
He has like 5 versions of fire sword uppercut
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Turns out the first two Gunvolt games got more updates in the Switch 2 Edition of Trilogy Enhanced other than 120fps support. Title screen and menus are all in HD now and in GV2 specifically they added an option to turn off the microphone event. I don't think even the PC version has any of this, which leaves the Switch 2 as the best platform to play these games on.
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>>585950536
you get it on pc with gx dlc
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>>585949201
All you'll ever need is ryuenjin and kuuenzan anyway
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>>585943502
Knowing Kirinfags it's either a dog or a black.
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>>585950645
Ah, good to know, for the time being I'm waiting for the PC version's GX DLC to go on a bigger discount before I pick it up there.
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why is promete wearing the lev MK-II hat
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>>585954565
He's a Levfag
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>>585914813
yohane sequel...
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>>585945569
Girbil would wear it better.
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>>585956518
Gerbil in the beast suit and super in to it, Kirin next to her in the same suit to her and super not.
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>>585946891
I'd say it's more their McDonald's happy meal. It's shit, it's bad for the body and mind, the person eating it knows those things too...but it's cheap and easy to get so that's what most get.
Maybe Patako wasn't as stupid as we always gave her credit for.
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>>585943704
Even if they did make GV4, you know they'd scrap everything in favor of a new gimmick anyway.
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>>585956708
Somebody call Cougar...I would but my bank doesn't like when a transaction is in yens.
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>>585956786
>Even if they did make GV4, you know they'd scrap everything in favor of a new gimmick anyway.
it's a good thing atp
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>>585956780
I miss when McDonalds was cheap.
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>>585923321
time to read the mega man comics
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>angels decended upon the mortal plane to get the full farm to table experience
>demons acend to live as illegal workers in any maid cafe or mantion in need of maids, anything that's not living in their wartorn plane
>demons also take everything they hate from home into the human world to do it there too
What did INTI meant with this?
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>>585958428
That I should marry Elise.
What I got out of it anyways, not like their fluff is consistent.
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>>585959006
Don't! She will doom your bloodline with soccer team worth of anime people who in turn will hunt down your fellow nerds to marry them.
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>>585956708
Kirin was the first one to don the adept modest wedding dress and looked like she liked it. Not as much as Lola but she liked it.
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>>585939378
for me Copen is way more fun to play, but he's much more difficult to get into scoring, as GV can just do doubles/triples to get big scores, whereas with Cope you must avoid braking the Aerial EX chain, but if you do it right he's also better for scoring
funnily enough, in GV2 I find GV much more fun for scoring than Cope, but in GX? even with his multiple jumps GV feels like an afterthought while with Cope I fill that inspiration meter much faster, same with kudos
that said, GV3/GX's level design is ass, it stinks, it was designed for Kirin in the first place but still overrelying on Arc Chain, but in GX at least both characters easily bypass the level design altogether with their movesets
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>>585959770
Oh hey, she'll bond with my brother that won't shut the fuck up about la seleccion and Real Madrid. You're just upselling here.
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>>585959897
I don't see how that's relevant.
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>>585956931
If I was going to commission stuff it sure wouldn't be that.
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>>585956518
Gibraltar wears anything Kirin does better, hit us with another take as hot as the Mariana trench.
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>>585960095
In GX I think GV is better for scoring since he starts matching Cope's scoring bonuses at 4 kills, but he also gets full damage kudos and potential skill bonuses from his cooldown skills. My own scores are better with Copen, I'll admit, but I think that's mostly because I'm not a Japanese superplayer.

>GV3/GX's level design is ass, it stinks, it was designed for Kirin in the first place but still overrelying on Arc Chain, but in GX at least both characters easily bypass the level design altogether with their movesets
Yeah, this is true. Feels like nearly every stage has some giant empty section with nothing but the occasional enemy to anchor yourself onto. Not much you can do with level design for a character who has virtually no mobility options or way to interact with terrain.
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only way to make kirin better is making her evil and give her skintight body suit
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>>585960778
I wouldn't say that.
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>>585960962
with triples GV can indeed reach 1000 kudos at the same kill count as Cope (12 enemies), there's also no risk of breaking the chain, but triples themselves are situational and not always possible, sometimes you just have to settle on a double, same with electrics although I don't remember if they're a thing in GX
but after 1000 kudos? Cope is a fucking scoring monster, every Aerial EX is a guaranteed 100 kudos per head as long as you keep the chain intact
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>>585961709
I did.
I mean it.
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well well well

https://steamcommunity.com/app/3813350/discussions/0/568175573451484576/
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I can't believe I put off buying the sexy nurse Murasaki from SK because it costs so much and then I put that much into Roll instead.
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>>585962128
You have no idea what you're talking about, GV3 literally has electrics that go so high in their count their cap for GX is you having to stop to recharge.
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>>585963107
Huh, I remember trying that for CiX and it didn't work. Does that mean you can load the original Sunrise Palace stages as well?
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>>585963107
Nova with his psychokinesis... and Azure Striker. He's a certified Brazilian now.
In other dimensions there probably are versions of him that also have Resurrection, The Muse and Mirror awakened into Reverie Mirror. All in one guy. It takes Copen to take such monster down.
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>>585963107
>That's the december stream news
I wouldn't mind at all if this means iX3 will take 6 more months to be polished
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>>585964302
You don't really have to worry about that, Inti's release schedule for physical stuff means that the game will release during may 2027 at the earliest.
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>>585964302
>physical Switch 2 Edition of the Trilogy is instantly obsoleted by a further patch with meaningful content
Inti is like Lucas constantly editing his movies post-release.
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>>585964002
just checked, you're right, I don't know why I assumed the cap is 3 and there's an item to unlock the fourth one lol, maybe I got too used to older games
still, there aren't many situations while you can just perform an electric, but since it's still there, both characters seem well-balanced
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>>585964532
This is by design, Aizu unironically thinks update campaigns keep the game relevant for longer and thus make it easier to sell the remaining physical stock.
>>585964609
Look up any Dnizer run of a good player and you'll see boatloads of them. Most of them are doable on GX up until you run out of EP then you wrap up the combo with an Arc Unleash.
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How many sales do we think?
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>>585965929
Bout tree fiddy

I didn't boughted but I already had the Switch 1 copy so I got the digital upgrade. I also own GV1 digital on 3DS, the Striker Pack on Switch, LAiX1 and 2 digitally on Switch, GV3 physical standalone and the LAiX1+2 Dual Collection physical on Switch 2 meaning I have both a Switch 1 and a Switch 2 copy of every single game plus a third copy of GV1.
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>>585966242
but how many X7s
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>>585966330
Just the one in the X Legacy Collection 2: The Bad Ones
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>>585965929
Steam numbers put it above base GV3, which is pretty funny (totally not because GV3 was a late port)
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>>585966827
Wasn't the old Striker Pack on Steam pretty scuffed too? The Trilogy is definitely the best way to get into the series on PC.
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>2027: LAiX3
>2029: LAiX Trilogy Enhanced
>2030: Luminous Avenger BacK, Blade/Kirin tag team story mode DLC exclusive to the Trilogy
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Cero D Gunvolt game soon
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>>585965929
what is inti's best selling game
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>>585969541
Gunvolt 1
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>>585969541
GalGun.
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>>585969541
CotM at 600k last time it was reported
>>585969718
That's mostly due to the amount of times it was rereleased though, right?
>>585969780
Aizu said once that Double Peace was the best selling title overseas but we never got actual numbers after the 100k celebratory post.
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How in the shit these fangame builds is lost media?
>https://rockmanciel.com/rcl_move_sample.zip
>dropbox.com/s/cijn49da0shdzzo/RockMan%20Ceil%20DemoV1.1.zip

All we got are videos of these games.
Anyone got these builds? There's only the 2018 demo out there.
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>>585969915
>after the 100k celebratory post
God I miss the celebration art so much.
The soul is always the first to go...
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>>585970698
Isn't that what the average IntiCreates game needs to sell to be called a win?
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>>585970698
These were typically made for the first entry of a given series. Make of that what you will.
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>>585970419
I'm surprised that nobody has bothered to mod one of the Zero games for the fabled Rockman Ciel game. They've modded Zero 3 for just about every other character.
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>>585970972
Lol lmao.
>>585971124
I can't even recall which game was the last to get a sales milestone art piece. Granted there's probably not a lot of sales milestones being passed these days.
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https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/12463490?q=gal_gun_%28series%29+
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>>585972249
Curse of the Moon in 2018, which paints a pretty bad picture for the seemingly now closed experimental phase, even for the supposedly successful Card-en-Ciel, unless the tradition was dropped entirely and they stopped even acknowledging milestones like these at all.
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>>585972502
Kill yourself.
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>>585964730
>looks at dnizer
>Juan Kamizono is there
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dniz nuts
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>>585972921
There's no way no other game of theirs has done 100k at least over time and with sales.
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>>585970419
i only have that 2018 test room but never bothered to check for other back then
probably the best options is to check any internet archive but it is not a guarantee

if i am not already given to the alzheimer, i remember a demo with a test cyberscape with slopes and that in the rcl engine but that's it, that was before even this version of the general happened iirc
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>>585971519
Because the MMZ series & Z2/Z3 romhack scene is straight up balls
Do you know how people are calling vibecoders "cuckcoders"? Somewhat the same for that for anticipators, but you never can play the hack they make or working on because morals, feelings hurt, or lame excuse #838383, then you get a buncha betas just kissing their feet for sharing.
This was a thing before people memed about Corruption btw.
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>>585975076
Only first entry of a new IP got the treatment, which means this would only throw Umbraclaw, CeC, and Majogami under the bus, as the rest are all releases on an existing IP so despite reaching the milestone they get nothing.
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>>585975939
By "new IP" I meant as in the first time they tried their hands at it, so I forgot to add Yohane in the potentially flop list if that counts for them.
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>>585975076
There absolutely is. MMZX in its entirety only sold 150k and that was with the Megaman name and Capcom branding.
If we're looking at it objectively, Gunvolt only sold as big as it did because it was made by "the MMZ guys" and presented as a spiritual successor.
BMZ only sold as well as it did because it came out as a Switch launch title, and there was literally nothing else to play on that console at the time, at least on the Eshop.
CotM was carried on IGA's coat tails.
And Galgun was carried hard by the ironic weeb phase of the early 2010s. Even Pewdiepie and Vinesauce played it because >creepy anime bullshit lmao

I wouldn't be surprised if even their strongest IPs couldn't crack 50k lifetime sales these days as there are no external factors pushing sales anymore.
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>>585976694
>Gunvolt only sold as big as it did because it was made by "the MMZ guys" and presented as a spiritual successor
that indeed was the case, but most people just ignored the インティ・クリエイツ INTICREATES splash screen in the Zero games because the first one, Capcom, was the one that did matter for them, the second one was just whatever
so while there was some influx from MMZ to GV, I don't think it was that big, as even today many players think Mega Man Zero is a Capcom game full stop
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>>585874093
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>>585976083
So Yohane did that bad? Well I guess the crab fishing jokes were not jokes afterall.
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>>585980895
I don't think any inti franchise is in the position to gloat all that much, I'm convinced they just operate at a loss and some yakuza member covers the bills for whatever reasons, numbers haven't added up for years now and Aizu's stance on rereleasing game is downright insane unless you're laundering money.
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>>585981309
Meh, I'm almost sure it's just that this is what the actual price tag of making videogames would look like without all the commie nonsense that the Euros and the gringos like to burden every industry with. X Box new CEO just released an statement not long ago about how everything had to pass over 15 layers of rubberstamps before being implemented and that she aims to cut that down to just 7.
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>>585913201
is it very, very bad

That's not to say the game doesn't have some good ideas or good parts, but the engine is complete fuck that makes the game hellish to play for a good while

best tip is save some reploids quick to get some parts that fix your iframes. decide which two characters you want to keep for endgame and only upgrade those two
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my body feels strange lately

maybe cause I haven't seen Zero t-pose or X fuck anything up lately
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>>585971519
Most of the modding community is focusing on classic, snes X, PS X and ZX.
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>>585984453
Here's the latter.
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>>585984453
Sir we are in BN4 season. No X or Z until next year.
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>>585908830
It's a learning process.
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Let Copen beat on Asimov and Zonda.
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This is how Maria would look around any other child on her class. No wonder her parent had to ditch her into the minos getto.
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>playing on gutless
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>>585987592
And that looks like she stuck her pinky finger in a chair.
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>>585987592
Hot.
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>>585993762
Kudos lock system is gutless enough. Not much better than actual Gutless.
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>>585989771
You're crying. The rain of tears is falling. I wo
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>>585993958
Dammit Lev, can't you for even five minutes without getting corrupted? Even Imperial isn't that much of an easy victim.
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>>585994153
Kudos lock feels closer to Cautious. That S++ is basically gone by the third hit or so.
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So...are those Archie comics still going?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgfwBr14p1A
Apparently this came out
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>>585998101
Cute
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>>585998101
Methead jokes incomming!
So when melt?
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Ancie leglock.
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>>585999947
telemet
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>>585997737
No, but actually yes
First issue in a decade scheduled to come out this November
https://www.rockman-corner.com/2026/07/archie-mega-man-returns-udon-announces.html
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best I can share:

https://litter.catbox.moe/3x46xnohy97nmkke.png

https://litter.catbox.moe/cw4g89lhly29uv06.gif

https://litter.catbox.moe/9l81gshoog1clp6i.gif

only 1 hour
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>>586002490
It's more blurry than a Japanese hentai.
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>>586002490
>https://litter.catbox.moe/9l81gshoog1clp6i.gif
it looks like a little face
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>>586002831
can't share the uncensored stuff, had to blur it more

>>586002869
she taking care of the tip
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>>586002257
How
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Bioniclev
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>>586005671
The bare hands is triggering the fuck out of my autism.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pv4lFAwCB0
Mega Man X4 FG (mod to add Falcon Armor and Gaea Armor to X4)
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>>585874093
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lev's levicles
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https://x.com/IntiCreatesEN/status/2115715301916762308
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>>586008491
Anorexia is no joke, Levi.
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>>586010056
You know what to do.
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>>586011810
I misclicked and can't change my vote.
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>>586010056
I voted that I don't like them despite never touching an Inti game besides Zero.
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>>586012905
thank you for your service
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>>585908691
Wrong!
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>>586011810
i never use the dubs, but they should still exist
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>always wanted to fight Shovel Knight in GV2 but didn't have the amiibo
>a friend gifted me an amiibo emulator so I finally can
>it's a glorified regular enemy with only two attacks who goes down in twenty seconds
Oh well.
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>>585969915
>CotM at 600k last time it was reported
damm, maybe inti really should approach konami to make a castlevania game
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>>586016636
It also comes with some item to buff reload crushes, doesn't it? Was that anything cool?
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>>586017854
I haven't tried Copen's gear yet, but I have put GV's on and having an EP-free Ambi Annulus is nice.
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>>586016830
>implying Inti could ever be allowed near another big company's IP after they bungled their relationship with Capcom
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>>586019469
That doesn’t make sense.
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>>586019561
Big corporations talk.
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>>586019817
Maybe, but Capcom is a Californian company these days, not a Japanese one.
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When are they revealing who those mystery niggals are?
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>>586020827
Because they are thinking of making a new Gal Gun. But set in the doomer era. They probably are tick tockers.
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>>586019469
inti didn't deserve to have their name scrubbed from the zero/zx collection
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>>586020827
Those are clearly mini Kuronas.
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>>586020827
lola?
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>>586020827
First time I notice Kaoruko's statue in the background. Why isn't she allowed to exist anymore? Even though she graduated they can make something up about her visiting.
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>>586025724
in japan you're dead after graduation
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>>586025815
Even the literal ghost is allowed to hang around.
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>>586025724
GV's mom.
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>>586025856
Obviously never graduated.
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>>586025815
>Points at Isola's corpse
I mean...
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>>586010056
>cutting full multiplat releases (Xbox is just gone now, PS5 starting to get delayed ports
>now polling on cutting dubs
How much do they have left?
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>>586026285
I've never understood the idea that Gunvolt is only one generation removed from Gal Gun. The world seems far more advanced and Septima and the first six waves sound like they took longer than 20-something years to spread. As for Kaoruko and GV specifically, is it just because of the hair and eye colors? That would make GV/Quinn unknowing incest.

>>586027378
Cutting dubs would be a straight improvement and I can assure they wouldn't lose a single sale.
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>>586027378
I mean, they only started having dubs a few years ago and that seems more like something their retarded localization staff wanted rather than something the customers asked for.
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>>586027445
>Septima and the first six waves sound like they took longer than 20-something years to spread
The initial crux of the setting is that Septima users has just recently started to emerge and society is undergoing collapse as a result. Galgun was already a fantastical universe filled with supernatural anomalies like magic, mysticism, angels and demons. In the context of the shared lore, Maya already fits the archetype of a sixth wave entity perfectly. As far as technology goes, it's probably all reverse-engineered angel tech. Copen's X reticle and old homing lasers pays tribute to similar looking elements from Galgun angels.

Speaking of Copen, it's such a shame they turned him into a melee character since inheriting Shinobu's penchant for ballistic firearms was the only thing that really tied him to her because her genes certainly didn't do much work. I'm probably the only one who cares about stupid shit like that though.
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>S++ rank in GX rewards less credits than X or SS
I like how we've already devalued S++ into a meaningless shitter rank
I can't wait to try for XXXSS+++++ rank in GV4
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What's she so happy about? She's going to die!
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art we birth and rebirth by sleepmelt
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>>586027445
>As for Kaoruko and GV specifically, is it just because of the hair and eye colors
Blonde hair, blue eyes, poor eyesight and both characters share similar background musical cues and melodic themes.
>That would make GV/Quinn unknowing incest
That's what sisters are for.
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>>586027445
Adepts were already active during the events of GalGun. They reference the discovery of the first septima in GG2. GV's generation was the first where adepts were born in significant numbers. That's why the characters were so young in the first two games. That's why not just the G7, but all of Eden doesn't have anyone above the age of 20 in it. iX, meanwhile, did have a bunch of 20 something adepts because it takes place a hundred years in the future.
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>>586031449
>>586027445

Weakness to water as well.
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>>586030468
One final firework
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>>586027378
I think that says more about the state of X Box than of IntiCreates. They have become just that irrelevant as a platform.
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>>586021874
>Doomer Gal Gun
As in fix a cursed world with the power of love and horniness?
Or as in let's make things edgier like Advance Wars DoR?
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>>586027445
>The world seems far more advanced and Septima and the first six waves sound like they took longer than 20-something years to spread.
That's how a real industrial revolution would look like, not the AI bullshit we have that hasn't show any signs of actual progress at all.
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>>586033219
Set in Hell, you have demon maids and dragon girls trying to suck your life
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>>586033219
The doomer gen is the one after the zoomer one. Doomer because they are screwed from the day they are born, doomed to live sick, weak, stupid, without property and shunned by the opposite gender. So yeah, Advantance Wars: Days Of Ruin but in Gal Gun and Waylon is the only male person in the cast besides the MC as the only one who doesn't hate the MC from the get go. Extra points if it's Houdai and Maya son and it's living in the worst days of the adept uprise.
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>>585996067
Nah, it's much closer to Gutless, all things considered. You may lose S++ with a few hits, but with Cautious you lose a lot more. All your kudos are gone on the third hit.
That said, with additional penalties, in iX3 the kudos lock system may finally be polished enough to scale better with how good you are instead of acting as a safety cushion for players who play somewhat decent and giving them an A almost for free. We need more of those C-ranks for shitty players.
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>>586011810
I don't plan on creating an X account but I don't use the shitty dubs, I'm ESL anyway and English dubs don't even feel natural to me, they just sound wrong compared to the original
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>>586011810
Time to subject myself to X musk and his stance on bots just for this.
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>>586011810
peeped and it's botted to oblivion lmao
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>>586036397
Anything on X that isn't? Ironic isn't it, no matter how many bots kills in his moments of racist, no matter how many bullshit plot power ups he gets madness their number only increases.
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>>586011810
They spend a sizable chunk of their budget just to get A rank Seiyuus to grunt into microphones. What would drive Inti to think I'd rather listen to some literalwho tacobender doing it instead?
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>>586036397
And some still dare to say that English dubs are not a hussle at best and a scam at worst.
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>>586036979
>tacobender
You wish. Mexican dubs always put the gringo ones to shame.
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>He thinks inti can afford bots
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>>586037174
not inti but the dub suckers
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>>586036397
Share the results?
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>>586037460
Yup. That's how Double Fine just saved it's own ass. The actors guild has a lot of bots and goverment propaganda money to throw.
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>>586037487
i promise you there aren't almost 500 people asking for engdub in inti games
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>>586038042
We like dubs here.
We like 8-4 localization here.
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>>586036397
pls understand, AI is about to make all these people homeless
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>>585965929
So far the floor for physical Japanese Gunvolt games seems to be around 3000, so I'm expecting it somewhere around there. Today Famitsu released the top 10 for last week's sales and it didn't make that, top 30 will be up tomorrow.
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>>586030873
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>>585967054
Steam never got the Striker Pack, but besides the new modes the standalone version of GV1 on PC is pretty shit simply from the fact that it has online DRM.
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>>586040486
>online DRM
why did it even get that shit? it's probably the only inter game with fucking online DRM of all things
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>>585998101
Just shadow dropped it out of nowhere huh?
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>>586040915
it had a sage demo earlier this year it just didn't create much buzz
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>>586040915
There was a previous video that announced a release date this fangame was just under the radar
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>>586041368
Wonder what else was missed
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>>586027378
>Xbox is just gone now
How badly were the Xbox versions selling for them to just give up on them? It's pretty pitiful seeing those Xbots continue insisting of staying on their sinking ship in Inti's reply sections.
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>>586042149
This also came out today
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3257150/RoboGAL_Gaga_Delta_Lady/
It also announced its release date ahead of time, but don't think many care. I'll probably give it a try later today.
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>>586010056
>>586011810
I did my part.
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>>586042459
>The game feels like Mega Man 4,5,6
>, and 10.
so whenmelt
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>>586042848
Isn't Saturday basically free once vania month is over
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>>586040775
The original Mighty Gunvolt also has it but that's it.
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>>586043405
unless we want to dogman, yeah
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https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/151429117
suddenly new ouka art
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>ouka
Its Quinn, you weeaboo.
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>>586047520
it's just easier to type
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>>586046695
We could gregvania later, is not like we haven't delayed hallow before
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>ouka
Its baka bomb, you weeaboo.
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>>586030873
I thought satur was for vania
saturbirth is unclear at the moment
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>>586053538
oic
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>>586048853
Swamp woman hands typed this.
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>>586042459
Okay, this is not a very melt friendly game.
The fortress is structured such that you seemingly play six ministages and the six main bosses back to back. The game's main trick to kill the player is instant death spikes or pits, there's limited lives, and game over brings you back to the start of the fortress. I'm yet to see if there's any proper check point that saves after a game over during this whole segment.
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>>586055567
finally, china castle
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>>586055567
Glad to see fangames taking inspiration from DOS 3.
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>>586055971
I think this is more comparable to MM&B's final stage, except more cruel.
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>>586056130
...I think the boss weaknesses heal bosses in the fortress stage.
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>>586029475
>I'm probably the only one who cares about stupid shit like that though.
You're not.
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>>586042063
That'd be pretty great if I liked this Prisma outfit.
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>>586002257
Somehow, Archie returned
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>>586055567
Well, I finished it. There is a checkpoint that persists through game overs once you've beaten three of the six bosses, and again after you've beaten all six. I'd recommend hoarding e-tanks for the fortress stage, because bosses do not give you any health back when you defeat them, and 1ups in the fortress are sparse. Unfortunately, there's plenty of instant death tricks, so you'll have to learn with those no matter what. Honestly wouldn't recommend this game.
Also I see that the game didn't unlock any achievements. Nice.
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>>585963107
>>585964051
>>585964302
>>585988312
Turns out it's just leftover data from the base game.
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>>586029475
Copen lost both things that used to tie him with his mom. His gun skills and his racism. Also I do care too.
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What the actual fuck is a voltic chain?
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In GV2, what does it mean that clips with a higher number of tags reduce the Flashfield's power? Does it depend on how many tags you spread out on individual enemies or is it absolute? If I use the 8-tag clip to put three tags on a single enemy, will the Flashfield do much less damage than if I put three tags on it using the 3-tag clip or will it be the same?
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>>586064919
Ritual of the Night cut content.
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>>586065274
More tags = less damage, unless you're using the Dias clip which has the base damage for all 8 tags.
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>>586066536
Okay, so it won't make a difference on single bosses.
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>>586066686
No, for bosses there's not much reason to not use the 1-tag clip.
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>>586066783
Oh shit, I didn't expect one tag to do so much more damage than three normal ones.
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>>586029475
>pic
Man, I wish so badly we could have gotten this game. The mental image of Shinobu waking up as a demon and freaking out is enough to make me want it on it's own.
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>>586064919
https://youtu.be/Ym3NQneBLfA?si=ws84AIEfigXve13H
Gunvoltiño Dos Santos Du Nacimiento screen clear. The ultimate attack for the average Azure Striker.
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>>586068168
>Both sisters know that they have become succubi
>Both know what must be done to feed
>Both only think on one guy who they will not mind using to satiate their hunger
Would be a cool speedrun mode.
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>>586071563
I don't believe for one second those three are celibate anyways so nothing would change outside of weakness to holy water and having to wear stupid hair ornaments.
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>>586072338
Shinobu 100% is.
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Is the ZED epilogue in Gunvolt 3 worth playing?
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>>586075219
It's like an hour long, just play it.
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>>586075219
Definitely. ZED is a lot of fun and the ATEMS convos are actually interesting since they're better characters than the Dragon Saviors and lore/setting drop.
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>Seven Slashes
>look inside
>it's only four slashes
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>>586080095
it's called Seven because it's made with a Septima
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>>586078308
You can't get lamer than a reverse harem.
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>>586081815
Pardon?
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You levaboo
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>>586075219
No, it's trash and for recycling with different characters GX is right there.
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So what was the melt menu for this weekend?
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>>586089370
Tuna melt?
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>>585967495
>>2030: Luminous Avenger BacK, Blade/Kirin tag team story mode DLC exclusive to the Trilogy
>Inti Announce Guy: Fetters & Lighting Combine & Strike in Radiant Glory!!
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>>586071359
I know that Juan Voltios "Gunvoltinho" el Delantero Azul has that attack and it's his ultimate move alongside Grand Strizer
but how? does the lore explain it?
releasing electric current through a metal medium is one thing, but summoning metal out of thin air has nothing to do with electricity
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>>586093526
I don't think they ever explain it beyond it being a septimal construct, it was very likely put in mostly as a Saint Seiya reference.
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>>586093526
Septima is tied to an adept's mental state. In fact, many unlock their true powers during some traumatic event. Here's the haikus, by the way:

煌くは雷纏いし聖剣
蒼雷の暴虐よ敵を貫け
SPARK CALIBUR

8-4:
>"Sacred sword agleam / Barbarous and bathed in blue / Cleaving right from wrong! Luxcalibur!"

MTL:
>Radiant is the holy sword wreathed in lightning.
>Tyranny of the azure lightning—impale the enemy!
>SPARK CALIBUR

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閃く雷降は反逆の導
轟く雷吼は血潮の証
貫く雷撃こそは万物の理
VOLTIC CHAIN

8-4:
>"Bolts of rebellion / A thunderous voice in his heart / Speaks of one true law! Voltaic Chains!"

MTL:
>A flash of lightning signals the beginning of rebellion
>A roaring thunderclap is proof of bloodshed
>A cleaving strike of lightning is the very principle of all things
>VOLTIC CHAIN

------

天体の如く揺蕩え雷
是に到る総てを打ち払わん
LIGHTNING SPHERE

8-4
>"Lightning that flickers / Like a star, and purges evil / That violate its realm! Astrasphere!"

MTL:
>Drift like a celestial body, O lightning.
>Purge all that comes across your path
>LIGHTNING SPHERE

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掲げし威信が集うは切先
夜天を拓く雷刃極点
齎す栄光 聖剣を越えて
GLORIOUS STRIZER

8-4:
>Let praise be unleashed / As blades of lightning cleave sky / Yielding great glory!
>GRAND STRIZER

MTL:
>The prestige upheld converges at the blade's tip.
>Lightning Blade Zenith Cleaving the Night Sky
>Glory Bestowed Beyond the Holy Sword
>GLORIOUS STRIZER
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>>586094082
Last time INTI referenced that was in MMZ like 10 years before that. And there's a huge difference between Ikki and Shun for people into Saint Seiya as well.
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>>586094218
so it's just there... and that's it
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>>586094218
That picture isn’t okay. Delete it at once.
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>>586019469
Did Inafune fumble them that badly?
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>>586095994
Don't worry, she'll ReSURrexXxXX h3rSELf.
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>>586096389
That doesn’t matter. It’s still not okay. For christ’s sake, GV, look at her face, stop this.
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>>586023086
trademark issue, crapcoom may not have the rights to display their logo anymore
they're still credited though
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>>586095994
Make me
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>>586096587
Jesus Cristo WILL NOT let such abomination to live. To play with life and death is to spit at Him. As His soldier, I will not tolerate it walking alongside humans, beings blessed by God. Now... eat my Greed Snatcher, monster.
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I am what you would call a "Levlamist".
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>>586097276
El racist will end up with an adept, mark my words.
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>>586099639
Who the hell would want to marry such a creepy, mentally damaged girl?
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>>586099639
Doubt it. Even Roro gave up on him.
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>>586099639
And that adept's name is Geebui
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>>586096940
That one’s not nearly as bad.

>>586099761
Me.
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feesh
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>>586102131
Oh neat, somebody hasn't given up on Majogobonito 2.
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>>586099639
Indeed he will, with "The Muse" Kohaku.
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>>586099639
Zonda crushing on Copen, yet still massively racist, would be the hilarious off the wall shit you'd expect from Gal Gun, not Gunvolt.
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>>586102131
I'd still hold that making her VA be not Gawr Gura would have saved Majogami on itself.
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>>586099639
Fake Zonda was a better boss battle than the real Zonda. Banger theme and attack patterns. I like Zonda as a character, but she was the lamest in terms of spectacle and fun. Destroying a little girl and the game treating it like it's not worth lingering or commenting on is also weird when every other badguy gets to make a big speech when dying and GV or Copen to go "..." while looking glum as they do it.
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Is Gunvolt the dragon marked for death?
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>>586105931
>Fake Zonda was a better boss battle than the real Zonda.
They went for dramatic, creepy, and evil for true Zonda's boss theme song. I know that over time, Inti settled on her being more child-like and innocent when she's not plotting genocide, but I remember in the original game where she behaved more reptilian and adult-like than any of the other characters, including the adults, to the point that I thought her true form was another illusion. I felt no guilt killing her like I did Elise or even Tenjian, because to me, she was mentally an adult and grooming a bunch of kids for her plans for godhood and genocide.
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>>586096940
She pissing herself in this one?
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>>586106846
no, rape
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>>586106663
Meant to attach these bozos as examples of old normies that Zonda is more adultish than.
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>>586105931
>looking glum after killing an adept
>Main universe Cope
He would not only dab on their freshly made grave but piss on the ashes.
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Why was "blitz" translated to "bullshit"?
I know, I know, it's written without "sh", but still.
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>>586107371
To my great disappointment, he didn't have anything pithy and edgy to say to Zonda as she died, especially with all the smack and threats he told Tenjian, and all GV got was a quote from Choujin Locke that didn't even make sense with the themes of GV2.
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>>586105931
This moment soured me on iX so hard. Well this and Jason. Those are two things that even iX should have some things to say something about. But no.
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>>586099761
You serious?
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Cute robot
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>>586111849
So that's all the things X dive left behind? A sorta new Iris and a couple more costumes for Roll, Ciel and Leviathan?
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Z
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https://github.com/mstan/MegaManXSNESRecomp
with zero, probably can be in OP
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>>586093526
There's a base conversation about Voltaic Chains in GX. GV himself is weirded out that he can summon physical chains out of nowhere but Copen and Lola simply find it cool and strong.
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>>586114427
>94 releases
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>>586111849
In the end, Iris just wanted a human bf. More especifically her Pureiya.
That's the last time she was truly happy.
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Nubs, will you pretty please SHUT THE FUCK UP?
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>>586111849
Evil trash.
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>>586111849
cute maverick
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justice for metal shark
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>>586122027
Only High Max deserves justice from that game
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Why not justice for Dynamo?
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>>586114427
when capcom remakes X1 again, Zero will have his own campaign X4 style
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>>586122027
For all the people who were backstabbed by Alia.
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>>586124107
He killed billions for fun i think
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>>586124878
For money. He still ended up working for Amazon tho.
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is rebirth W3 host or papmachine
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>>586107785
>GV got was a quote from Choujin Locke
What was the quote?
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>>586129379
People are not tools.
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>>586133596
>ends up used as a battery by Sumeragi
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>>586133706
The great irony of GV's life is that he always ends up proving the villains right, and the villains don't exactly have it all together either.
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>>586127771
W3 is closed this sat
big chance i'll be deaaad but might connect on shitty wifi/leave early
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>>586124778
is it really never explained what alia did with gate after x6
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>>586133706
Bonus points for Sumeragi creating him to be exactly this.

>>586135076
I think Gate just died.
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>>586140395
Lev doesn't have what it takes to be Lilith
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>>586142071
Ciel doesn't have what it takes to be Morrigan either.
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Gunvolt should have just been an android, or a cyborg at least.
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>>586143653
I think he'd dragonize anyway. Pix and EX Weapons aside, true Septimas are bound to bring destruction to the world.
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>>586143653
>Gunvolt should have just been what ruined iX
Fantastic idea anon. You're such a genius.
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>>586144921
Copen from iX is the best character in the entire franchise thoughbait
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>>586144974
>bait
Indeed.
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>>586145084
That's not bait, that's just Tai posting.
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>>586143653
gunvolt should have been a five man combiner
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https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/151441063
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>>586144285
>true Septimas are bound to bring destruction to the world.
The dragon crisis is entirely man made, everything that led to it, can be directly traced to Sumeragi's experiment on orphans and/or newborns.
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I can't believe all Copen needed to do to defeat Gunvolt was toggle the setting on his Blaster Rifle™ from Blaster Master Zero® that allows him to chainsaw imaginary anime girls.
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>>586143230
Ciel has a bigger bodycount than Morrigan.
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>>586027378
>managed to sell 1600 copies even with cope multishilling
It all returns to nothing...
It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down...
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>>586146072
Most die-hard fans would already have the Switch 1 version and be able to just buy the upgrade pack.
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>>586145272
JouleGODS are the strongest.
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>>586134871
He proved Asimov wrong, however. And reluctantly killing his adoptive father to save humanity was the catalyst for him opposing Eden later.
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>>586145272
She's no Korra.
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>>586145198
Well, Tai is wrong because iX Cope is shit for more reasons than I can be bothered to write down. I'll just say that Leibniz reveals exactly what went wrong with Copen and is the living proof that at least SOMEONE at inti knows how to write a broken, trauma-driven anti hero correctly. And that just makes iX's writing even more inexcusable. Leibniz was built as a shattered mirror to the main hero. She represents everything Cope’s "tragic survivor" arc should have been but failed to execute.

Just take killing Mytyl, what should've been a pivotal moment for him. What does he do? He shoots her, shows no visible reaction and has absolutely nothing to say. He recalibrates his weapons and moves to the next stage. And that really defines all of Cope's """"character"""" at this point. This unwarranted stoicism doesn't make him cool, it makes him a boring and lame black hole Garystu that swallows up any and all potential drama.

Leibniz also lost her home planet and Lucia. But her trauma actively defines her character. She still wears the choker of her deceased droid around her neck. Her entire abrasive, cynical personality is a direct logical coping mechanism for her immense loss. You care about her pain because you can actively see it pulling the strings of her behavior. Leibniz is Cope done right.
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>>586145446
Give some credit to the angels too. Their fuck ups also had a lot to do with this.
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>>586148652
That's because iX isn't Copen, but iX. Any trauma and edge were beaten out of him by 100 years of conflict. There's a reason the two are considered distinct characters by the team.
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>>586148652
Just say you want Cope to be more fuckable
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>>586145446
Sumeragi just accelerated the process, that's it. The Dragon Radiation is what every adept emits, they also amplify DR emitted by other adepts, creating chain reaction. When an adept is distressed, not to mention tortured, the DR gets stronger. When an adept is calmed down, like in iX, the DR gets weaker. That's why there's no dragon crisis in iX, it was just postponed.
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>>586149374
Allow me then to make a small correction: By making iX Cope a dull marketing mascot with nothing going for it instead of a human being, they highlighted exactly why Copen failed and where Leibniz succeeded.
>>586149523
Maybe he'd actually get some fan art then. Lol!
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>>586149778
>Dragon Radiation is what every adept emits
Source needed for this. No mention of Dragon Radiation ever appeared in the series prior to GV3. Prof K. would've mentioned it, his son would've mentioned it, their internal research notes would've mentioned it. Zonda stole all of their research data and pored over it to learn everything about the Muse and how their tech worked. Everything indicates that it's a new phenomenon which only appeared in the gap between GV2-GV3. Before that there were just the seven stages of the life wave.
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>>586148652
anti-cope coper still can't understand that Leibniz was written to still maintain her humanity even after she was mindshattered, while in iX's case it's a contrast between his hot-blooded, always angry young self and his current self, who willingly thrown his humanity away along with his biology, feelings and emotions to save others
imagine yourself doing the same, throwing away everything that makes you you - oh wait, you can't because you're consistently being too dumb in these threads
the fact that residual emotions are still there with him, despite him being essentially a robot made for killing, makes him quite deep of a character
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>>586149374
>iX isn't Copen, but iX
Really a moot point when the two are used indistinguishably from one another
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>>586150930
>Copen Lopez
>wants to slaughter Juan Voltios
>Copen Lopez iX el Guerrero Cibernético
>doesn't give a fuck about Juan Voltios
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>>586150847
>her
>she
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>>586149867
>exactly why Copen failed
The original one didn't, though. His character was simply denied full closure in the sense his route in GV2 was open-ended, but you can clearly see where he was headed if he kept going on his path. In reality, Tsuda simply ran out of story to tell, which is why he switched to adapting random Choujin Locke arcs.
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>>586151175
where
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>>586151680
private link on pixiv
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>>586152000
do show?
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>>586149778
>it was postponed by hundred years, with no sign of happening.
So the dragon crisis was created by Sumeragi
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>>586150847
>writing Tai's character for him
El oh el.
I was about to write out a long worded reply but halfway through I realized I don't give enough of a fuck about this non-character, nor do I care to enable your fanfics. I'll end this by saying that Cope's past is treated like a dry textbook summary rather than an open wound. Everything is delivered in the same flat, sterile cadence of a scientist reporting lab results. Well adjusted, calm, and perfectly logical under any circumstance. Even when faced off against the very person who vanquished his entire bloodline. What a nothingburger """character""".

>>586151275
That's another thing. His spinoff incarnation retroactively ruined his original appeal, ruined the narrative stakes of the series, and completely robbed us of any satisfying character payoff, essentially signaling to us that his narrative trajectory in the main games didn't matter. What matters is becoming sterile, consequence free mascot marketing.
>Tsuda simply ran out of story to tell, which is why he switched to adapting random Choujin Locke arcs
This is why I smile every time someone mentions GV4. They were already out of ideas by GV2 and also concluded as far as the series creator was concerned.
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>>586152607
>Cope's past is treated like a dry textbook summary
still seething and dialating about these 100 years not explained in detail, I see... well that's a (You) issue
>Everything is delivered in the same flat, sterile cadence of a scientist reporting lab results
and that's just adds to the tragedy, mirroring Cope's new personality to show not what's new, but what's gone
but hey, if you wanted the entire Gunvolt franchise to stay a flashy edgy shonen for middle schoolers, with flashy battles, flashy Anthems and flashy story, the iX is a separate subseries for a fucking reason and you're just not its target audience, that's it
now go watch your Naruto while I'll savor Texhnolyze like a fine wine
still, I do agree with you that BMZ is a better-written game in terms of story, but it's mainly because Gunvolt became a mess ruined by corporate affairs such as Tai not being present to properly write the story in GV3
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>>586152607
It can be argued that they were out of ideas during G2, as they keep trying to push "X as the final villain" from the first megaman zero for Gunvolt.
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>>585874093
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I am a time traveler from a year ago. Tell me, is Natsume out of a job yet?
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>>586152242
nothing worthy sharing, just a censored short loop
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>>586154619
lame
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would you give her a hug
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>>586154995
Oh, we have a Not-Lotton now?
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>>586153227
Oh the irony.
It's funny that you criticize friendshipslop shonenshit while in the same breath felate the subseries where the main character is simply TOO KEWL to ever react to any outside stimuli and has not just one, but TWO genki FriendshipGirls that only exists to endlessly praise the protag and keep up the spirits no matter what. It's so fucking stupid how Tai made Kohaku yet another boring genki girl, because Roro already steals the entire show. When Copen travels through time or infiltrates, Roro is the one commenting on it. When Copen defeats a boss, Roro is the one celebrating or expressing pity. By the time Cope returns to the hideout, every emotional and conversational need Cope might've had is already being fulfilled by Roro. And thus Kohaku is reduced to a third wheel standing awkwarly in the corner and repeats the same praise and worry that Roro has already spent the entire level expressing. Now there's a bad character too who has all the mechanical, conversational and thematic roles she should've filled already perfectly executed by a floating singing orb. But I'm getting sidetracked.

>mirroring Cope's new personality to show not what's new, but what's gone
That's all in your head, nothing in the game's environment actually interacts with his history. He's completely divorced from the internal life of a human being who has watched his world burn. And that is by design, the narrative environment is completely sterilized to ensure Cope never has to feel pain.
>The shitty minos kids never asks him deeply personal questions that force him to confront his losses
>Roro is just the eternal cheerful Siri that is always prepared with cheerful, upbeat banter and never shows any actual concern to whatever grief could be in Copen because there is none
>The Falcons and even Asimov don't know enough about his past to taunt him psychologically
iX is such a stupid fucking series man.
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>>586155574
How does a robot catch an infection and why does it make her tits swell three sizes?
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>>586146508

Apart from the racism and authoritarianism, Asimov's ideal is that adepts need someone to lead or inspire them, which is what he wanted from GV. That adepts don't have that means they fall into the despair and desperation that consumed Zonda and Nova. Then you have ZED acting like Asimov's ideal.

As for Eden, see
>>586146508 >>585877201

He dealt with them by killing every last one of them, thus proving that their methods worked and that reaching an understanding or a peaceful resolution was impossible. Nova was also proven right in his beliefs that adepts are inherently dangerous and will rise up if given the chance.
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>>585965929
>>586040301
Famitsu top 30 is up:

11. [SW2] Splatoon Raiders (Nintendo, 07/23/26) – 3,370 (689,061)
12. [PS5] Ace Combat 8: Wings of Theve (Bandai Namco, 10/02/26) – 3,081 (85,729)
13. [NSW] Minecraft (Microsoft, 06/21/18) – 2,425 (4,294,981)
14. [SW2] Tales of Eternia Remastered (Bandai Namco, 10/15/26) – 2,419 (20,330)
15. [SW2] Kingdom Hearts Collection [I ~ III] (Square Enix, 10/08/26) – 2,402 (31,217)
16. [SW2] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 4 (Activision, 10/23/26) – 2,376 (New)
17. [NSW] Tales of Eternia Remastered (Bandai Namco, 10/15/26) – 2,167 (16,170)
18. [SW2] Pokemon Pokopia (The Pokemon Company, 03/05/26) – 1,962 (1,138,630)
19. [PS5] Tales of Eternia Remastered (Bandai Namco, 10/15/26) – 1,825 (12,215)
20. [SW2] Derby Stallion 2 (GAME ADDICT, 09/24/26) – 1,782 (44,654)
21. [NSW] Castlevania: Belmont’s Curse (Konami, 10/15/26) – 1,751 (17,381)
22. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (Nintendo, 12/07/18) – 1,659 (5,959,558)
>23. [SW2] Azure Striker Gunvolt Trilogy Enhanced – Nintendo Switch 2 Edition (Inti Creates, 10/22/26) – 1,622 (New)
24. [SW2] The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom – Nintendo Switch 2 Edition (Nintendo, 06/05/25) – 1,369 (83,665)
25. [SW2] Minecraft Dungeons II (Microsoft, 09/30/26) – 1,357 (17,980)
26. [NSW] Powerful Pro Baseball 2026-2027 (Konami, 06/11/26) – 1,317 (225,828)
27. [SW2] Super Mario Party Jamboree – Nintendo Switch 2 Edition + Jamboree TV (Nintendo, 07/24/25) – 1,313 (229,803)
28. [NSW] Yo-kai Watch 1 for Nintendo Switch (LEVEL-5 the Best) (LEVEL-5, 04/22/21) – 1,264 (64,029)
29. [SW2] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild – Nintendo Switch 2 Edition (Nintendo, 06/05/25) – 1,247 (101,361)
30. [SW2] Dragon’s Dogma II: Dark Arisen (Capcom, 10/09/26) – 1,201 (11,268)
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>>586156150
Well achshually she's not a robot, she is a highly advanced biomechanical android. Her anatomy blends machinery with organic, artificial tissue, she is susceptible to biological threats. Especially a highly aggressive dimension hopping mutant pathogen.
>but why the permanent breast expansion tho
To make her better at nursing her mutant seedbed babies, duh.
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>>586156276
No, he proved that he's an Uncle Tom and Might makes Right. Almost like a certain B-Grade Hunter...
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>>586156779
Eterniabros we did good
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>>586156780
>To make her better at nursing her mutant seedbed babies, duh.
Not even. All droids adapt to whatever the driver needs out of them, a girlfriend for Gonbei, a daughter for Stein and wierd mix between father figure and servant for Kanna. What is to say that the changes to adapt for the driver stops at just the way the support droids acts?
Also this means that Leibzs never had a shoot and Kanna was probably gonna be plan B for Jason.
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>>586156779
The genki anal idol wins once more. Condiment packs for everybody exept Inafune and Natsume!
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>hates shirts more than basically anything else including the Pirate Master who nearly killed the planet
Somehow very in tone and character.
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>>586156779
>sold half as much as Kingdom's flop
Somewhere... Beyond the sea...
Somewhere... Waiting for me...
My crab boat stands on golden sands...
Waiting for me to go sailing...
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>>586156779
Yohanekeks in shambles
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>>586156779
Card-en-Ciel is the only other late Switch 2 Edition from Inti and that did not chart at all, both of these games have a cheap digital upgrade pack for the original Switch 1 versions so it's yet even more proof that Gunvolt brings in money.

>>586158376
Most people probably got the digital upgrade pack, it charting at all is a good sign.
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>>586155574
1/2
>Roro and Kohaku are always praising Copen
>Eve is always praising Jason
what did you expect from them, backstabbing him?
>Kohaku is reduced to a third wheel
are you for real?
>she saved him with the smoke grenade when he was taken from surprise and his prevasion turned out ineffective against the Azure Striker
>she's always there to lift his spirits between battles, it literally says that Copen feels a warmth inside him when interacting with her and Minos
>she, along with other Minos, tells the story about what's happening in this otherwise action-focused game with no dumb Live Novel from mainline (thank God!)
>she enters the Sumeragi building and deals the final blow to the severely weakened but still dangerous AsimovGPT
>she fixed Cope and Lol at the end, at least to the point of them being able to properly fix themselves
she already does much more than Ouka or Monica
>getting mad at Roro for being just a floating orb
she's basically a gag character, adds humor and cheerfulness to Copen's seriousness, almost boke/tsukkomi relationship but without jabs at each other which has a good explanation in the role, they both have AB Drives and both are synchronized with each other, they pretty much act as one, that's why Cope cuts the synchronization whenever Roro uses Darkness Trigger
she's 1/3 just a small orb, 1/3 extension of his own mind and 1/3 the remnant of his sister, although the latter is yet to be explored and that's a good thing, it's bad to rush things
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>>586158697
2/2
>That's all in your head, nothing in the game's environment actually interacts with his history
you don't get it.
what I meant is that if there was a dramatic explanation what happened to him, what he lost, how he cried like a baby and then clenched his fist with resolve or other shitty straightforward story, you'll get something new on the table as a reader/player, but since there's something supposed to be there and you know exactly what (your endless tirade about unexplained 100 year time gap and lack of Cope's emotions gives it away), there's a profound feeling of emptiness, inb4 [EMPTY] lol
the analogy would be suddenly waking up and discovering that you don't have some body parts, for example your limbs, as opposed to what you'd like in your story, that is the expression of having them ripped alive from your body in some dramatic battle - and that are two profoundly different types od experiencing loss
now go watch Ghost in the Shell, it brilliantly uses the theme of purposely not showing what was lost but is supposed to be there
>no grief in Cope
same with a real-life veteran of both World Wars, he doesn't feel the pain of having lost his home, family and friends anymore, he's just apathetic and wants to peacefully sit on a rocking chair and watch some movies or whatever till the end of his life, that's a way of a human brain to adapt to a severe trauma and Cope shows this mechanism very well, after all when he completed his mission he just sat in his lab and found simple comfort in research, same mechanism, same mind adapted to extreme trauma
but well, it takes more than 14 years old to get such things, actual middle schoolers will probably stick with mainline GV
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i'm not reading
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>>586157721
>Eve could sense Jason wanted children with her and her breasts swelled three times that day
I guess that works for boosting motivation.
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>>586158697
>she's 1/3 just a small orb, 1/3 extension of his own mind and 1/3 the remnant of his sister
And 100% pure sexoooooo
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Is that one guy still seething over Big Kamizono like anyone cares? We won already, it's over. He owns the series and Inti by proxy. See you next game.
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>>586159223
Also means that Gonbei was into cutting boards and Leibz was in love with herself.
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>>586158697
>>586158875
Nowhere is the "textbook" writing more glaring than the climax involving his sister, Mytyl. In the mainline series, Mytyl was Copen’s entire universe. Every sin he committed, every Adept he slaughtered, was done under the fanatical justification of giving her a tomorrow without adept threat. To reduce her ultimate fate to a 2 minute sequence with absolutely no emotional aftermath is arguably the greatest narrative failure in the entire franchise. Go back to GV2 and watch his reaction to her death, or to Joule's death. It's raw, it's messy, and it becomes the absolute driving force for the rest of the entire series. Then compare it to iX where Cope isn't fundamentally changed by the experience, his philosophy doesn't pivot, and by the time of the even shittier sequel her death is never brought up again. Her death leaves zero scars on his soul. Gunvolt however? Every single decision he makes moving forward is dictated by the trauma of failing Joule. Her death is treated as an open, bleeding wound that defines his entire life trajectory.
>oh but that's actually very deep and you just don't get it because you're a retarded 14 year old!!
Yeah yeah, it's SUPER compelling.
iX is shit, was always shit and continues to be shit.
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>>586160517
>See you next game.
Next game is Copen once again so get ready for even more Roro gravure and Copen owning the IP.
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>>586160517
>See you next game
The one where everyone would rather play as Blade?
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>>586160745
>Then compare it to iX where Cope isn't fundamentally changed by the experience
If we ignore him dedicating his entire existence going forward to rectifying this, for the sake of argument, why would it. The boys are shaken in GV2 because those deaths are the results of their failures, while for iX Copen he's succeeding. That's the culmination of his efforts, not the failure of them, further proof that he can do the right thing even if he has to sacrifice his humanity to do so. There's nothing to change because it validates his path.
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>>586160745
>>586158875
INTI likely just wanted a cheap redo of Zero going into hibernation and waking up a century later in a new body, without any of the context or characterization which made that work so well in Mega Man. Because when you compare Copen and iX, they may as well be apples and oranges. His backstory is literally just Elf-War redux; a 100-year-old conflict that's there to set up the opening stage.
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>he thinks blade is still playable
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>>586161246
You still on about that?
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>>586161489
iX has more in common with X than Zero. All the way to the racist part.
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>only Mega Man posts are images and fangames
It's that dead until DO huh?
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I just want to be free of the razor wheel. GX somehow made this shit even clunkier than iX2.
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>>586162323
Wait for iX3 and iX Corrupted
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>>586162137
The last game was years ago.
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anon thinks corrupted will come out
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>>586162648
But anon, Starforce Legacy.
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>>586162323
We got Whirling Chopper At Home in iX3, we'll be straight
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>>586161462
>why would it
Do I really have to explain it? Ultimately, Joule’s death turned Gunvolt into a great protagonist because it proved he was human. He was allowed to fail, break down, and lose the things he cared about. By shielding iX Cope from that exact vulnerability, the Tai isn't going to make him look cooler, he just proves he doesn't have a soul worth investing in. It's a failure in character writing.
Cope isn't managing his emotions, he appears to completely lack them. When standing face-to-face with the extracted brain of his beloved little sister, he treats it with the same mindset as a carpenter or a surgeon; as a problem that needs to be fixed. It can only be interpreted as total apathy.

When Gunvolt openly collapses into ragged tears over Joule's death, or mainline Cope with Mytyl, they signal to the player exactly where they're vulnerable. We suddenly realize the villains can genuinely break them, making the subsequent battles much more hype and high-stakes. iX Cope, conversely, is written as psychologically bulletproof. If the grotesque body horror fate of his own little sister, the literal anchor of his entire life's mission, cannot cause him to falter, panic, or shed a single tear, then nothing in this universe ever will. When a character is entirely immune to emotional damage, all narrative stakes instantly vanish. (We) stops worrying about him because nothing the script throws at him will ever leave a scar. Just look at how fucking stupid he looks at the ending of iX2.
He's got nothing beyond being a sterile corporate asset now. Sanded down and sanitized to serve as the perfect, unproblematic front facing corporate mascot for a spin off title specifically engineered to take as few resources as possible, with a singing gravure idol at his side whom he has ONLY a purely platonic relationship with because, you know, we wouldn't want the waifu crowd getting angry.

iX is as anti-soul as it can possibly get.
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>>586162137
Well no shit, DO is not out and there's no demo yet either.
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>>586162687
Well get a sloppa version of corrupted before the actual corrupted
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>>586161489
Absolutely. It's Zero but without any of the things that made Zero actually great.
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>>586127771
what's a w3
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>>586157912
The fuck are you celebrating if a rerelease of a collection outsold Dual Collection?
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>>586157149
I bought it but haven't started
I heard they redid the dub?
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>>586163418
you're right someone should get on with it
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>>586163592
So Zero, the series without Zero, the character?
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>>586163703
They did yeah since they restored the map skits so there's more dialogue than the original international releases
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>>586163140
Hadn't iX already fought the Butt Effect once before according to lore materials? So in-universe, it would make sense that he doesn't break down after dispatching her. He already knows Mytyl is long gone since its been decades since she was taken, and whatever was left of her obviously wouldn't have much humanity remaining.
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>>586164157
i'll miss meredy
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>>586164171
The story of the happening mostly offscreen doesn't really work for new franchises.
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>>586163140
You're ignoring the context of the scenes and their motivations in them to make this point. It IS a problem that needs to be fixed. It IS THE PROBLEM he's spent his whole natural life and more trying to fix. He's psychologically come to terms with what he's needed to do for a century, it's not suddenly sprung on him in the last second showing that he's a stupid chuuni failure, this isn't a last second gut punch to him like it is to the viewer in every other scene done with the intent of showing you how this violence was ultimately pointless because, it wasn't. This is calculated and deliberate, likewise there's no vulnerability to show in his methodology here because the simple fact he did it proves he is correct. He's already doing the right thing for the right reasons so there isn't really a need to narratively punish him beyond the idea that that punishment for the protagonist "just because" would be all good storytelling consistutes.
>>586164171
>Hadn't iX already fought the Butt Effect once before according to lore materials?
Yeah
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>>586163695
Because it means more INTI games for the road.
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>>586164171
Meta-narratively it doesn't matter, and it certainly doesn't excuse bad writing. If anything, it highlights an even lazier narrative failure. Moving a protagonist's most vital, emotionally shattering realization entirely out of the active narrative is a fundamental misunderstanding of dramatic structure. You cannot demand that an audience invests in a character's journey journey, only to hide their most vulnerable, defining moments behind an unshown backstory gap. It's idiotic.

The protagonist acts as (Our) emotional compass for the universe. If the protagonist communicates that an event is a catastrophic tragedy, (We) absorb that weight. When Tai decided that Cope should shrug off Mytyl's demise within five seconds to effortlessly transition into a final boss arena, he sent an explicit cue to us saying "This isn't a big deal, let's hurry up and get to the fight." Because Copen invests zero emotional currency into his own life's tragedy, we naturally mirrors his indifference.
>>586164609
Read above.
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all inti recently registered new ips have been released
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iX2 is one of those games where the more you put into it the more you get out of it, which is why it's based.
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I am mad that Luna never gets properly corrected by Geo for being a genuine bitch to him
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no flamefrit no hope
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>>586165053
Nothing but Gunvolt and Gal Guardians for a while is my guess.
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>>586165053
Return of Kingdom's Return
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>>586165261
Back to the licensed game mines with you, Aizu
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>>586165261
Yeah! More Gal Guardians... Two.
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You just can't post naked girls on wholesome boards like /vg/ anon
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>>586164987
Sorry that the series isn't just an endless series of reheated sad Mytyl deaths and aura but if you need the narrative to pause and tell you this a fourth time you might be stupid
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>>586165053
We make bets on what AAA studio IntiCreates will burry up next. The favorite to win at the moment is Naughtydog.
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So it sounds like people's real gripe with iX's storytelling is that it ignores everything it should be setting up in favor of doing a timeskip, making every emotional moment feel unearned. How would you even fix that without making a prequel to iX, kind of defeating the purpose of it being a filler side series to keep you busy while waiting for the main course?
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This the horni mmg?
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>>586166935
always
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>>586166783
blade should turn into a dragon but also a dog
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>why aren't the old men eternally emotionally fixated on multiple decade old misfortunes? stop caring about the present!
a real mystery i think.
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>>586166935
haha yeah sometimes
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>>586166184
Nono, I get it. You like Cope, so you fill in all the structural gaps with your own headcanons to justify its shortcomings. I don't like Cope and I certainly don't like his shitty low effort sub series, so I have a much easier time seeing all the cracks. A script deciding that the protagonist has already "gotten over" their feelings before the scene even begins is some superb writing after all. And that's the problem really, without Mytyl Cope has nothing left to say, no internal struggle to resolve, and no psychological friction. His emotional arc was dead before the game even boots up. A brick wall before the game starts and after the game ends.

To go back to the beginning, Leibniz also knew perfectly well that her entire home planet was dead and that her support droid was *lost* long before she met Jason. However, that information was also an open wound that actively bled through her current, volatile behavior. There is after all a scene where we watch her emotional armor literally shatter in real time. Her past loss isn't deleted, it is honored by the narrative.

And that's it, really. iX was never interested in exploring the psychological depths of Cope, it was only interested in rushing the player from one flashy gameplay stage to the next. Arguing that Cope "already knew" isn't a defense of the script. It is a direct confession that Tai chose the easiest, most sterile, and least engaging route possible. Entirely abandoning character driven storytelling in favor of being Megaman Classic.
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>>586166935
Yes.
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>CD implies a hybrid GV2 canon where Copen and GV both killed the G7
>takes place after Copen killed Ghauri
>people still claim that Copen did nothing and lost every battle to even basic Eden grunts
Why?
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>>586166935
It's not our fault that they keep making these semen demons. Well some of those are angels but you get the point.
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>>586167965
>>586167042
Good good. Always gotta ask.
Im gonna draw some Halloween Roru and id figure for some sexy+cute costume ideas.
Also I was thinking about q front facing pose but youre all about the supple buttcheeks yeah? So maybe a butt pose instead?
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>>586166783
>How would you even fix that without making a prequel to iX, kind of defeating the purpose of it being a filler side series to keep you busy while waiting for the main course
I dunno, maybe do exactly that? The entire reason for a spinoff is to explore an overlooked side of an established universe, or to give a compelling supporting character the narrative space to grow outside the protagonist's shadow. Exploring unresolved character threads. Maybe even continuing where GV2 Cope left off, but outside of Japan.
Alas, instead of enriching the Azure Striker Gunvolt franchise, LaiX quarantines itself in an irrelevant alternate timeline and lobotomizes the most interesting traits of its main character. And it just keeps self-defeating with each subsequent installment.
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>>586164987
Cept the part where Tsuda said that one of the themes are the dangers of a one sided perspective. Neither Copen or GV really align with most people's emotional compass, at least in the first two games. People are still pissed at GV for being so casual or unemotional, even satisfied after killing some of his sad orphan enemies.
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>>586168694
>sexy+cute costume
>Halloween
>Roll
>Butt pose
Pop step cotume is the perfect fit.
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>>586168093
No, I'm just reading what the game says. You just reject what the game says because you don't want to acknowledge that things are the way they are for a pretty easy to understand reason, and thus are fine. You want an exploration of Copen from the perspective that he did something wrong and thus should be punished and slash or changed for his sin of killing sister or something. He did narratively did a grand total of zero things wrong though, so there's nothing to breakdown. The rival comparison or whatever is meaningless because you don't want to acknowledge he's already got it down at the start. There's no arc because there's no need for one, he's acting as the force that effects the world around him now, not one shaped by the machinations of the world anymore. The analysis attempt fails because he's a static paragon now. Goku not a Vegeta.
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>>586168694
Hello drawfag, glad you made it here before the end of the month.
May I suggest Leoparde costume for Roll?
>maybe a butt pose instead?
You know that the answer to that will always be hell yeah!
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very polite
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bring back pandoland
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>>586169567
NTA but hou could really just say you're fine with the games being nothingburger plots since that's what they're intended to be from the moment they started development and be done with it.
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>>586163601
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>>586170890
NTA but there's nothing wrong with that.
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>>586169567
Why are you putting words in my mouth? I never said any of that. I've only called out iX for being awfully written and that Leibniz is, down to her very character architecture, the definitive blueprint of how Cope should have been written. That the writers of BMZ took the very same elements (a lone survivor, crushing grief, an abrasive anti-hero edge, and a high-tech arsenal) and actually gave it a soul.
Like the anon above said, if you're fine with iX being a cynical, consequence-free playground designed to sell Megaman gameplay loops under the guise of an iconic character's name, then go right ahead.
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>>586171473
No but there's no need to pretend it isn't kind of shit coming from mainline in that regard.
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>>586170890
And there's nothing wrong with that. I don't really care one way or the other honestly I'm just here to dash into people. The attempt at analysis is just crazy poor so I'm trying to just say what he is. No, Copen isn't like Leibniz. At all beyond like, a very surface level reading of his character and motivation that falls apart instantly. Thinking he's supposed to be is already failing massively. He's a pretty simple character if actually engage with him instead of trying to stuff him into these dumb boxes.
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>>586172354
Identifying a writer’s intent does not mean the execution is good storytelling. I've already gone over that. Saying "there is no arc because he is a static paragon, and therefore the writing is fine" fundamentally misunderstands how a static paragon actually functions in engaging drama. You talk of Goku, but iX Cope inspires absolutely no one. He is an emotional void. He displays no passion, warmth, or psychological vulnerability. He functions not like an inspiring paragon, but like a clinical military computer. If a character is going to be a static force that shapes the world, their personality must be magnetic enough for the audience to want to follow them. Copen has all the charisma of a brick wall.

You completely misinterprets how narrative tension works. A character does not need to sin or be "punished" to experience an emotional struggle. Even if performing a mercy kill on his sister’s brain was the correct choice, the human cost of that action should still tear his soul open. Reducing the execution of his own flesh and blood to "old data he already got down at the start" is a massive failure of basic human drama. True strength or stoicism isn't a complete absence of feeling.

If he already got it down at the start, then he is structurally the worst possible choice to lead a spin-off. The entire reason for a solo Cope game was because he was the main series' most volatile, dynamic, and internally conflicted anti-hero. His character was defined by his hypocritical friction with the world. Erasing that internal conflict to turn him into a flawless, static force completely defeats the point of giving him his own game. It is the narrative equivalent of making a Vegeta solo movie, but stripping away all of his pride, anger, and psychological demons from minute one to make him a calm, flawless Zen master. It isn't "fine because the script says so", it's a fundamental misunderstanding of the character's appeal.

Sit your ass back down Pablo.
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>why isn't copen written like a clone of this character he has nothing in common with
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>>586165118
so much this, unironically
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why isn't copen fucking lola already, shit character
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>>586166498
Actibliz.
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>>586173778
>but iX Cope inspires absolutely no one.
That's all he ever does actually, it's most of his relationships. Kohaku, Null, Blade, GV, himself, basically everyone but Asimov
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>>586174060
He never wanted that. He NEVER wanted it.
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>>586168364
>people
>meanwhile it's just one retard
>who haven't even read OCWs and is too dumb to figure out timelines
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>>586174060
In case you haven't noticed for the past ten years, human Lola is a hologram. Though maybe Copen would be more interested in fucking the metal ball anyway.
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>>586174414
>hologram
it's called Image Pulse and you can interact with it
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>>586174221
>>586174414
that's exactly why he's shit character
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>>586174060
Congratulations, you just managed to explain the resident anti-Cope coper in one line of text.
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>>586174145
Except they don't. The minos children start and end the game in the exact same emotional state. Kohaku and the other orphans learns nothing from Copen, and really, their entire dynamic comes off as purely transactional. Kohaku and the orphans allows him to use their hideout as a base, and he acts as a glorified guard dog in return. They are happy he keeps them alive, but his personality or rather the lack thereof leaves zero imprint on their souls.
I could go on with the others but honestly, I've had enough talking about the flaming dogshit that is iX and its poor excuse for a "main character", so I'll bury the subject now.
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>>586155038
I can't see girls like Kirin acting like this as anything but hypnosis or corruption. Post-bad end Kirin.

>>586156780
>>586156150
She's a robot, just made with meat instead of metal. That's a thing.
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>>586168694
RoRoll is a good idea.
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>>586175030
Do you want me to like, pull up screencaps of them saying as much? Do we really have to do this with Hopeman and his good friend, the Muse of Hope? GX just came out.
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>>586157721
>Leibzs never had a shot
To say someone never "had a shot" only applies if they were interested in the other party to begin with. Leibniz just hates Jason.
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>>586175030
Wasn't it a thing that the minos kids start scared but by the end help Cope sneak into the final level? They cause a bunch of off-screen chaos or something? I forget.
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>>586175698
Still getting the Leb end.
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>>586175741
Yes, they take up the weapons they had in their hideout and go make a distraction so that Copen can sneak inside the secret lair of the Butterfly Effect.
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>>586174726
I don't care about Roro though. I think her genki bubbly demeanor completely undermines his core thematic appeal. It's like having an idol riding shotgun in the Batmobile.
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Is that theory that Leibniz is actually the support droid just completely dead?
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>>586175987
Kinda, not really?
The English voice being a masculine one instead of the more androgynous one to better be coy about it kinda killed it in the English side of things.
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>>586175741
>>586175860
But that was Kohaku inspiring them and hyping it up. Copen just stands around like a dumbass.
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>>586176103
I don't care about dubs, especially dubs from totally different games, when considering shizo lore theories. Don't consider that much better than saying Levi can fly because of that recent comic or that X is bound by Asimov's Laws due to Teppen.
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>>586175987
No, but it doesn't really matter in the context of things discussed.
Whether or not Leibniz is Lucia, Leibniz is still Jason's 2nd wife.
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>>586175741
Yes, explicitly
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>>586176819
>No
Baller.
>but it doesn't really matter in the context of things discussed.
I know, but I don't give that crack ship the time of day. Jason is for Eve and that's that.
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>>586175030
Dang that's crazy, someone should have told Kohaku that
>Who are these guys? Are they from Sumeragi? (Referring to Asimov clones) ....! I'm not giving up.... No way in hell I can give up now! Copen saved each and every one of us! Countless times!! Now it's my turn to pull out all the stops!!
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>>586174640
It would honestly be kinda lame for him to get with the robot he built himself. And I'm not saying it's problematic or some other reddit nonsense, just that it's pathetic to imagine a lonely scientist who built himself a cyber girlfriend, especially one with an AI built on his sister's personality. These are the kinds of characters who get cucked in NTR doujins and for good reason.

It's kinda funny just how barren Copen's selection of girls is compared to Gunvolt. There was only ever really Roro and that only existed in an optional drama CD of dubious canonicity, and then there's Kohaku. And boy do I have a hard time caring about Kohaku, she's just Quinn 2.0 and equally as underwhelming.

If I'm being generous I could say Kohaku is Inti's attempt at recreating a 'Joule', but stripped of all the things that made Joule so good to begin with. Joule and Lumen are the same and are spiritually tied to GV. When you play well, Lumen sings. If you die, Lumen's anthem brings you back. Kohaku has zero presence in the actual levels. She doesn't upgrade your geaar, she doesn't sing to give you buffs, and she doesn't resurrect you. Roro handles all of that. Kohaku is relegated strictly to those mediocre VN dialogue boxes IF you choose to engage with them.

It's the "Septima vs. Mundane" problem all over again, just like in GV2. Joule is an anime person with sought after powers and as such tied to the dark, overarching conflicts of the world whether it is Sumeragi or Eden. Meanwhile, Kohaku is just an ordinary human. Her role is being a handy mechanic who fixes scrap metal. There's no mystery. Just a regular girl, living in a bunker.

Joule was shy, traumatized and deeply insecure, while Lumen was confident, outgoing and flirtatious. They didn't compete for screen time, they complemented each other. Lumen expressed the hidden desires and bold emotions that Joule was too afraid to speak aloud.
Aaand the comment became too long...
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>>586179392
Samefagging here.
Roro already handles the singing, the upgrades, the resurrection, the sassy banter... Roro completely cannibalizes anything Kohaku COULD do. And this leaves Kohaku trying to fill Joule's shoes as the "grounded, sweet girl," but without any of Joule's tragic backstory, growth, powers, or complex codependency with the protagonist.
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>>586179392
>just that it's pathetic to imagine a lonely scientist who built himself a cyber girlfriend
Light did it and nobody blames him for doing that.
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>>585874093
teen luna's drills are so pretty...
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>>586180346
That is his brocom daughter
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>>586180346
He made that for his son thoughbeit.
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it's kinda cool how every game someone will turn towards the camera and say "copen your perseverance in the face of adversity has inspired me to action, go now as i place my faith in you" and then do something risky that helps copen like turn into a portal or run at asimov or try to give him an opening to save gv, and that's still somehow too subtle
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>>586180663
Look, the aim was to make a daughterwife. He never accounted for the Capcom factor that makes all cannon relationships have incest. See Apollo and Trucy.
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>>586180546
She can't handle a skirt this short.
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>>586180546
Luna is just so precious...
Witch Luna OP...
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>>586176543
>or that X is bound by Asimov's Laws due to Teppen.
I dunno anon, Alia nearly killing a whole hotel with a T virus bomb, leaving B.B. to take the fall and then making a core values death camp was very on point.
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>>586177825
Based monogamyGOD.
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>>586168694
>but youre all about the supple buttcheeks yeah?
A little bit yeah.
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>>586179392
It's doubly funny that Tai himself said that Lola only fell for him because the Zonda shards in her yearned for Copen.
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>>586184371
That is not how butts work.
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>>586173931
Recently Japanese super player clips of that game kept popping up on my Twatter timeline and it just makes me want to go play it again, never gited guded but I want to.
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>>586188568
it's pretty fun once you implement all the tech and routing tricks, you can push the pace very high if you want to
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>>586185957
This means Pantera was also kinda the final boss of iX2 and best Kohaku is imbued with but a fragment of the love Pantera felt any given moment.
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>>586185957
I hate that so much. It's so stupid. Why can't he just commit to the act? Why throw in these random variables that makes the product less than the sum of its parts? Why do this? I hate Tai so much, almost as much as he hates Copen.
Whether or not it is Zonda influence or Joule influence, it just makes the entire thing extra pathetic. Roro is fundamentally robbed of her own agency, she doesn't actually like Copen for who he is. Instead, she is merely experiencing a corruption driven by the lingering leftover residue of a dead girl who was hopelessly in love with someone else.
And Copen? The emotional secondhand outlet. He becomes the ultimate rebound guy for a robot experiencing another girl's romantic history. Nothing more than a completely counterfeit version of the actual bond Cyan and Gunvolt had.

Apparently Copefags are fine with this absolute unending humiliation ritual. I just assume they're rent-a-girlfriend fans at this point.
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>>586189401
>best Kohaku
If she doesn't have this costume as an unlockable in iX3, we riot.
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>>586189401
I mean if we're thinking about it like that then everyone is the final boss of iX2, silly way to think about Lola as a character imo
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>>586189401
She did use all of Eden's attacks, after all.
>>586185957
Don't forget that NPC Copen's signature attack in both games wasn't shred storm, but Zonda's lust doppler.
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>>586168694
Nobody has mentioned some actual good sexy cute HALLOWEEN costumes, so have a couple:
>Vampire (Big ass revealed under her cape, bat pasties)
>Jiangshi, talisman pasties. One talisman covering her anus. Maybe take notes from Hsein-Ko
>Franken monster. A play on her doll joints
Somebody else could add to my suggestions. Keep it lewd and festive.
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>>586189463
Would you forgive them if the next GV game was like GX with mainline Copen as GV's partner, and had adept girls like Zonda fawning for him?
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>>586191259
very lickable butt and 5head
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>>586191492
No. That sounds terrible. Copen would just become GV's accessory. Having Zonda and other adept girls crushing on him would be character assassination, turning Copen into a joke! It wouldn't even make sense. Copen would try to kill them all.
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>>586189463
yeah because no one actually cares about this stuff. the exact mechanism through which it happens is for the most part irrelevant because the feelings are still real.
>>586191259
would
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>>586191492
Turn Copen into a girl and have GV fuck her.
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>>586191804
So you complain about Kohaku and the nonadept girls who are into Copen being boring and lacking chemistry next to the adept girls, but you also reject Copen having a (one sided) relationship with an adept, all the while moaning about how Copen doesn't get any attention from girls like GV? Is there no pleasing you?
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>>586191814
>because no one actually cares about this stuff
Not true, people are keenly aware of this stuff.
There's a reason why Kohaku and Roro are only featured with dozens of faceless men. No one in the fandom or the narrative takes Copen’s interpersonal relationships seriously, because the game itself doesn't take it seriously. There are no emotional stakes and Cope in particular doesn't give a shit. And if Cope doesn't give a shit, we don't have to give a shit.
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>>586191925
>Lola's comment about GV having an unexpectedly feminine side
Just have Copen fuck him without changing their genders.
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>>586192425
pretending like that it's not the most represented pairing in the fanbase by a pretty big margin because he's harder to draw in porn is pretty funny ngl
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>>586192738
Now that is some glorious Cope.
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>>586193009
do you actually think these characters are unpopular or is this just a bit to get a (you), genuine question
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copen is way easier to draw in porn than gunvolt tho
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>>586189463
RoRo has always been a form of a composite character as her very form of artificial intelligence is very malleable and dependent on input.
She only began to think of herself as a woman because of her time with Mytyl and Nori, she's literally just a weapons platform and everything else is a divergence Cope didn't plan.
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>>586193953
idk i think it'd be relatively hard
https://x.com/lololotton/status/1764317494800679328
like it's done here and they're still kinda doing the bare minimum to avoid getting his whole body in the shot
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>>586193424
Did I say they were unpopular? I said no one cared enough about his interpersonal relationships, hence why Kohaku and Roro are rather drawn with faceless men. Nobody takes his relationships seriously because the games and the community have collectively agreed that he is an emotional void who only interacts with people to advance a mission objective. Thus the player base naturally treats his relationships as background noise. Did you know Cougar used to ship them too? Copen and Roro, that is. That was a looooong time ago though.

>>586194312
Congratulations, you found the one-or-so times Lotton drew Copen. Two years ago. And really, that's probably more a case of Lotton NOT WANTING to draw Copen, because she doesn't like him.
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actually let me try to comm Copen fucking Null in a standing full nelson with all the machinery and shit there rq i just got paid
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>>586194312
i mean in porn as in naked person with the character's head stick on it,he even was shown having relatively normal human body underneath the armor in concept arts, also the artist in question has gone record to admit that she sucks at drawing mechanical part so that's probably why she avoided it
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>>586195148
based for making more null art anon
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>>586195148
>that time
Holy hell an actual pag outside of his gacha habitat!
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>>586195494
If the guy that keeps getting Kirin blacked gets to live his dream, maybe I can too. Maybe we all can...
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>>586185957
Wtf Tai?

Why you got to ruin this with either the stank of Zonda or NTR?
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>>586192705
Not going to happen as Copen is already the more womancoded character, what with the tsundere archetype and more defiant exterior. More emotionally volatile and prone to mask his vulnerabilities with aggression. The red and white accents, high collars, and sleek, compact armor profiles are frequently used to signal elegance, purity, or maiden-like ferocity. There's a reason Mikos use this palette.

There's also the fact he was looked after by only female characters. Male characters in this medium who are deeply pampered and fiercely protected by the women in his life often takes on a more submissive and coddled framing.
There is a reason he's always the bottom. Fujos and fudanshis can smell this shit from a mile away.
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>>586168694
Lowest hanging fruit for a Halloween costume and a butt centric pic how about....
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>>586196431
There's gotta be a ton of pics like that, right?
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>>586196406
Male tsunderes exist. I think GV is prettier as well. Prime forced crossdressing material.
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>>586197657
ok cool story lotton
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>>586197606
Probably, Roll and Lilith even shared VA for quite a while.
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>>586197736
I was thinking more Cloud Strife, but okay.
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>>586169430
Seconding this or this >>586170307
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>>586196406
is she lurking this general the fuck
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>>586197657
Well, Nori said Copen would be the prettiest princess in all the lands if he wore makeup... But I do agree, Gunvolt is prettier.
This just made me realize, if there is a genderbent Copen among the iX bearers, that character is going to fucking explode in popularity. Easily even eclipsing the canon version. Which wouldn't be hard all things considered, but I digress.

If the Malfoid fad has shown ONE thing, it is that the world craves earnest bitch-faced tsunderes to be corrected and taught their place. And boy do we have a candidate for that, primed and ready to go.
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>>586198421
>iX isn't a bottom though
she truly gets it, I'm impressed
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>>586198421
>icks, you mechanical dick!
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>>586198421
Copen is definitely the top in the yaoi universe of GX, that makes sense. GV was giving crazy catcher vibes
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>>586198421
Who is this?
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>>586199219
lotton
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>>586198421
>bsky
She's just using it because their mascot a blue butterfly, isn't she?
Also what the fuck. Hi Lotton.
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lotton implies the existence of lotty
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>>586191204
Magical Girls are perfect for Halloween costumes. Roll herself has done it.
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>>586199248
>We subjected Lotton to countless KYJ Kirin posts
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>>586198421
>4m
>13m
What the fuck? That’s actually believable.
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>>586199350
Also because she can post deranged comments in japanese without having the chance of her account being nuked. She even deleted a bunch of risque Cyan posts off her twitter for the same reason.
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>>586198531
>This just made me realize, if there is a genderbent Copen among the iX bearers, that character is going to fucking explode in popularity.
Relatively, right?
If female Copen eclipse Blade in this I’m going to be fucking mad.
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>>586199776
No such thing
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>Buttfags have never seen a woman's ass before
Wow, shocker.
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>>586199109
Probably helps that Copen didn't literally get mind controlled by a girl that wants to fuck him, that just cemented GV as a perma bottom no matter what.
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>>586200135
We're already probably getting 8+ new Lola's, that's enough of them to probably dilute how well any single one of them does I think. Unlikely that we get another Mother.
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>>586200135
Prepare to get mad. Swapping his gender changes how his extreme personality traits are perceived by the wider community. A highly competent, deeply aggressive, tech-wielding tsundere girl with sharp silver hair? Instantly appealing.
All the traits that made Copen divisive? He gets the female buff just like Malfoid did. His borderline obsessive hatred for adepts and his rigid logic? Highly fetishized and celebrated. And then he also has this intense family-oriented, domestic soft side to him that just needs one dicking to come out and it's over. Instant favorite fandom girl. Bladed won't stand a fucking chance.

By this smug Kurona I will it to happen.
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>>586200873
watch inti inevitably fumble this too
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>>586200873
I’ll seethe when there’s cause to do so, and not a moment before. Your imp has no power here.
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>>586168694
Plegian witch
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>>586196072
Zonda would be worse girl but they will never have her again so we are safe there. I will never forgive what she did to Joule and Mytyl.
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>>586201567
Based grudgelord.
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>>586200873
It does not work like that. The main reason why Malfoid works is because he is a bitch across the whole story. A fem Copen would be seen as a psycho bolter bitch from 40keks.
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>the antizondafag might have been lotton all along
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>>586201958
No, that was me.
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>>586201658
Nah. Both of them are about a bully who mostly had it all in the mouth and their interactions with the protagonist that are defined by extreme, stubborn friction. The only problem here is that FemCopen wouldn't face off against Gunvolt, but I'm sure the few fanartists that remains will make up for that.
Or she'll just get fucked by faceless males(adept). Whichever works.
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>>586201958
All me
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>>586201958
wtf I love lottie now
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>>586202129
I do not care for the name Malfoid.
And you’re losing me pretty hard calling Copen a “bully.”
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>>586201958
Lotton drew Zonda before and said she was cute.
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>>586202654
I can't help you with that.
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More kudos in this one level than all of GV1 and GV2 combined.
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>>586203945
Yeah, because GX has a mechanic on harder difficulties where if you don't finish the boss with a cool anime skill, they won't die, allowing you to farm a ridiculous amount of points.
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>>586200263
Hot. That just means no one loves Copen enough to want to do that.
He'll stay a TRVEcel until the heat death of the universe.
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>>586203037
What do you mean? You said it. Draco’s a bully, Copen’s a fucking serial killer. They’re not the same thing.
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>>586203945
That's just the GX skill revive thing isn't it? You need to do a GX finish unless you have the solo abilities on.
It actually got me pretty good when I did my first Copen only run without the skill, since I just didn't know it existed yet and just ran it right off the bat. I was super confused
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>>586204215
Might understate his role a bit, but really, name two characters he's killed. Just two.
Copen is a character who shows up to say outrageous things and then get his comeuppance in the very same moment. Sounds familiar?
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Why is Albert such a Cielfag? He puts huge murals and stained glass images of her in his throne room, and feels like he's her ideological heir.
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>>585874093
Pollinating Luna.
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>>586204915
Why aren't you?
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>>586204915
So was Elpis, aka male Zonda.
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>>586205271
Zonda is Albert, Elpizo, and Ciel rolled into one weird Alice.
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>>586204868
All the people on iX?
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>>586205632
That's not "Copen" though, that's "iX." Similar yet distinct according to Inti.
The prospect of a FemCopen iX Bearer would be built on a "Copen", not an "iX."
Couldn't they have chosen a better term. Fuck.
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>>586204868
You don’t get the title “The Adept Slayer” without slaying adepts.
>Copen is a character who shows up to say outrageous things and then get his comeuppance in the very same moment. Sounds familiar?
Again, you’re stretching this so far. Draco’s a douchebag who does douchebag things and eats shit for it, Copen is actually fighting and killing people. His entire route in 2 is him showing up, saying outrageous things, and then killing everyone. Hell, correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t Draco get cold feet on the whole murder wizard master race thing?

>>586204915
>and feels like he's her ideological heir
I think you answered your own question. You’ve never seen evil bastards using great historical figures to legitimize their evil and/or prop themselves up?
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>>586205458
>>586205695
These a good sinister Ciels. I hope they’re real.
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>>586201958
No, we don't actually have women here.
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>>586201958
There's literally a single GV girl she hates and it's not Zonda.
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>>586207081
Who?
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>>586206543
>You don’t get the title “The Adept Slayer” without slaying adepts
The title isn't actually stated in-game. It's just marketing for us, marketing that doesn't quite live up to its name all things considered.
>His entire route in 2
Luckily that one isn't canon.
>doesn’t Draco get cold feet on the whole murder wizard master race thing
Kinda. Draco initially wanted the mission to restore his family's honor and avenge his father, Lucius, who was imprisoned in Azkaban. Sounds familiar? When it came to the weight of actually carrying out a murder, he realized he wasn't about that life.
Still a blood purist through and through.
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>>586207119
Are you seriously asking who the most autistic GVxJoule/Lumen shipper in the entire fanbase hates?
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What's with the meme of bloodthirsty X in the fandom? See it on both sides of the Pacific.

>>586207119
QUINN
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mistakes were made
now, we wait
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>>586207498
Which artist?
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>>586207498
goodluck brother
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>>586207498
Impressive, very nice.
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>>586207360
>The title isn't actually stated in-game.
So what? It’s still his title.
>Luckily that one isn't canon.
Citation needed.
>Sounds familiar?
No? Cope’s not out restore his family honor and his dad is fucking dead. You’re just stretching these two characters to fit the same mold.

>>586207392
>>586207427
Impossible. Nobody has strong feelings about Quinn.
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Regenesis apparently got an update
>Added Zero as a bonus playable character after beating the game. Can teleport swap on the fly using Select/tab.
>New optional PSX style remixed soundtracks for entire OST.
Everything else seems like bug fixes and minor tweaks
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>>586208821
GV and Lotton have very contrasting strong emotions on Ouka.
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>>586208821
She literally got pissed off at the one single dialogue that alludes to her in GX when it was shown on an Inti stream, her hatred reaches almost chink level spite.
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>>586207498
I really hope you commissioned that because you wanted it and not just because I said nobody cares about Copen's interpersonal relationships. Anyway, enjoy.
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>>586209198
Huh. Well then.
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>>586209198
Don't understand why she hates Quinn but is okay with Zonda, Mytyl, and Kirin.
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>>586208821
>It’s still his title
I see. So we both agree 11 year old Zonda is "The Lustful Mirage" with all that it entails?
>Citation needed
Gunvolt 3.
>You’re just stretching these two characters to fit the same mold
They are built from the exact same blueprint of elitist prejudice, inherited burdens and intense rivalry. If you can't see it, it's because you don't want to.
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>>586209479
Zonda was playing the villain role, Mytyl gets treated like Joule's alternate account half the time so why would she hate her and Kirin's not actively torpedoing her preferred ship for an entire campaign worth of base conversations. It's really not that hard to grasp.
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>>586209479
Zonda is a nonthreat. Mytyl is Joule. Kirin is safe since she's for blacked and bestiality.
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>>586209685
>So we both agree 11 year old Zonda is "The Lustful Mirage" with all that it entails?
Sure.
>Gunvolt 3
How?
> They are built from the exact same blueprint of elitist prejudice, inherited burdens and intense rivalry. If you can't see it, it's because you don't want to.
I can see the similarities. That doesn’t mean they’re the same. You’re insisting on that because you want them to be.
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>>586209889
>How?
This is how. And because it is directly validated and continued by the plot of GV3.
>That doesn’t mean they’re the same
I never said they were.
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>>586209685
Fake Zonda is the Lustful Mirage. True Zonda's title is Priestess/Miko of Eden (エデンの巫女), sort of like how Layla has her own title (Priestess of ATEMS) while Luxia is the Cyber Djinn.
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>>586209312
I was thinking doing about it for a while anyway, it was just trying to figure out with who and getting the motivation to do it. mostly just back and forth between Kohaku and possessed Kohaku until like right now.
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>>586210209
That is the fucking height of pedantic reasoning. You might as well also say "Adept Slayer" Copen is gone by GV2 since True Copen is "Copen Kamizono" (神園アキュラ) Or even just "Boss" (Akyura-kun)
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Is the Mega Man complete pack OP news worthy?
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>>586210209
You can have multiple titles. GV does.
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>>586210203
That could just as quickly easily be Cope being an unknown.
>I never said they were.
Fucking really? Alright, anon.
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>>586210360
huh i thought it was null anyway good for you anon hope that shit went through for you
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>>586210496
I suppose? It's a nice deal if you don't have them yet
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>>586210421
Nah, that makes complete sense. Fake Zonda is lustful, and they’re a mirage.

>>586210360
>mostly just back and forth between Kohaku and possessed Kohaku
oh please oh please oh please
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>>586210568
It was Null, I just wasn't sure it was going to be Null until now. She's pretty cool and could use more appreciation
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Man, I wish Fan No Hitori still took commissions. He did for a little while, and I’m still kicking myself for not taking the chance.
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>>586210209
>>586209685
>Glaive is named Crow Child
>Is a literal child
deep
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>>586210721
God dammit.
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>>586210889
Joke boss turned actual character just because it'd be the perfect punchline do be like that.
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>>586210547
If you're going to just deny, deny, deny, then make a twitter account and ask Tsuda himself. Alternatively Aizu.
>Fucking really?
Fucking really. I only ever insinuated they were familiar, not the same. Want me to talk about the inherited prejudice from patriarchal figures? Or how they both depend on the wealth of their families to match the chosen protag?
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>>586209198
imagine pushing 40 and still being like this, bet she isn't married either
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>>586211431
Iirc she actually is.
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>>586210831
Yeah. I wish I could have asked him to draw Kirin.
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>>586211642
really? based on her tweets i just assume she just lives by herself all this time
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>>586211996
Exactly.
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>>586210360
Regardless, you couldn't have made a wrong choice. You can probably count on a single hand how many art pieces there are with Null and Copen, and maybe two hands for Kohaku. Maybe. I can't recall the last time I saw a piece of art with either, not very impressive for a protagonist in a still running series. So if nothing else your commission lands in a dry place. I bet all the Copefags are starving.
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>>586211203
>ask Tsuda himself. Alternatively Aizu.
I’ll get right on that.
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>>586211642
That'd be Snakr the failmom.
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Witch moon OP!
Spooky moon OP!
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>>586210992
They designed Zonda that way and then had her act like an adult, treated her like an adult, and killed her like an adult to shock you and have a laugh, but now they treat it like a bad joke.
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>>586213910
Well I don't find that Moon spooky
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Baking the next OP.
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>>586214426
Really? Scared the pants right off of me.
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>>586214541
Better be a witch. We’ve got a lot.

>>586214135
Most of that isn’t true.
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