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>>585827075 >>585876957 >>585944862 >>585950028 >>585957553

New interview

https://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/interview/2150143.html

>They program new costumes as new characters for some reason
>Tokyo Revengers was picked because they wanted to appeal to younger players
>They pick new DLC characters based on priority. Those who haven't appeared in a long time and lack 3D models are main priority, while those who always appear in KOF have the lowest priority.
>Possible picks for the future are the Jin twins or those related to the Scrolls, Yamazaki because they are lacking villains, Xiangfei and Sendo because they are lacking in girls.
>Seemingly they considered adding Iori but decided against since it would blur the differences between FF and KOF

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>>585876957

would explain the stupid comment of "it takes half the time of developing a full character to make an alt costume"
>all other fg companies or even companies with games with alt costumes in them:

>>585824026
Team Red made DBFZ and copied Goku for Strive's roster. When the source code leaked for Strive, people found the Goku and its use was as a reference for making new characters instead of starting from scratch every time

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SOON

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>>585833315

finished all of Mai's trials...no idea why my brain farted at a tiger knee input

>>585825234
you would have thought that the company that's notorious for recycling data year after year would have known to do something like this

>>585824719
What was the rationale behind Kim then

Heroines 2

>>585827075
They needed something to sell this season pass I guess, it's a pass solely of B-Listers where the highlights have never been in an SNK game

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We have official confirmation that SNK chooses the guests, maybe people will finally stop with the burqamen scapegoats.

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Andy is gay

i've never even seen tokyo revengers get talked about even in person by the younger crowd, but one literally asked if i saw jujitsu kaiser or whatever it's called and the conversation would shift to someone else who did because i don't even really keep up with anime or manga

tokyo revengers though? lol i only once or twice heard the name of it alone in passing and only on the internet

>>585828823
I talked about it with my younger sister and the MC is legitimately such a radioactive wastebin that he outright disinterests anyone young. Anyone who IS into it are into it for the characters in CotW. So they chose a dogshit shonen people actually admit is garbage and added the popular characters for whatever reason

>>585828823
It was very popular for about a year
Also it has it's fujo fanbase, who typically are quieter but actually spend money on all the stupid merch and shit

>>585831214
>Also it has it's fujo fanbase
oh, now i understand

>>585825234
So that's just a template that they "copy" when making a new character. Seems messy that it is somehow in the code of the game and not in a dev tool, but whatever.
Dunno what makes you think that SNK doesn't have a reference like that as a starting point.

>>585832773
The costumes are proof of that, for one. Even if say SNK were copying off a base, they still do it individually for every thing implemented in the game including NPCs and Bosses. Hypothetically instead of the load-bearing Goku, the smart way to do it would be to have Costumes just reference the original ID's stats so you don't have to do the same coding twice in the first place. That's how you avoid Terry misalignment situations

>>585825517
Congrats anon! Hope we might have been of help.
>>585825864
Why is she not purple here?

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>>585834345 >>585836301 >>585837613

Brazilian EVO also confirmed with KOFXV and COTW. But still want to know if they'll feature 2002 vanilla, UMs or other stuff as side tournaments.
Those prices are insane here. I think now I understand why people complain so much about EVO in Vegas.

>>585833540
I don't what they were thinking hosting this in a 3rd world country with those prices

>>585834345
owners are money grubbers, just like tko with wwe charging like upwards of 1000 dollars for tickets which is insane even by most sports standards
they will milk something dry and sell it off when it can't be milked and then abandon it to die for another business to do the same

>>585833065
>they still do it individually for every thing implemented in the game
How is that different for Strive characters? Even if they would link to Goku parameters as a reference point as opposed to straight copy, they would still have individual difference, just in a less human readable format.
>the smart way to do it would be to have Costumes just reference the original ID's stats so you don't have to do the same coding twice in the first place
Theoretically, it could work, but it would have to be a subset of stats and not all of them, as I'd imagine depending on how involved the costume is there might be additional animations and/or effects that would have to be tied to the actions.
Ultimately, I would just synchronize those ID stats at the toolset level rather than hardcoding links in the game.

>>585833540
>>585834345
They are throwing money away, competing at a loss.
The goal is to establish the EVO brand in every region as the most prestigious tournament there ideally BY DISPLACING the area’s existing, traditional tournaments and then transform the EWC into a REAL WORLD tournament© (recreating what the original EVO once was). That is why they’ve moved events to places like Paris (goodbye, UFA) and Singapore (goodbye, Tekken World Tour).
Ironically, they are effectively dethroning EVO, quite deliberately.

>>585835459
If you don't get how it's different, one is applying the differences onto the original base while the other is running a separate stream of code altogether. You do less checks doing the former. You run the character, then their differences, versus loading a separate character altogether. It means less coding because you're not running a separate Nightmare Geese file than the boss one, you'd be running hypothetically Rock->Nightmare Geese statistics. You don't need to code the default stuff like stage movement and action, you just need to code the hitboxes and moves. It trims down work, hypothetically you can make these individual slots, maybe that would be more "optimal" for a full game release but when you're adding content like DLC not needing to do checks for all of the base mechanics helps a lot

Still, it should be utilized for costumes at the very least. They shouldn't be tying base mechanics to models directly because that's why the "half as much time to make a new character" issue happens at all. That being said I have a suspicious feeling SF6 does the same shit because Arjun didn't even drop with a Drivetech slop alt

Panni waiting room

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>>585834345
>>585836301
>>585833540
They already reduced the prices after many people complaining. A lot better but still quite expensive compared to any other fighting game event here. These are BGS-tier prices.

>>585837305
*Nitori Kawashiro waiting room
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp-yuFXYNg4

you guys have used #ifdef and #ifndef in your code before, right
i mean those are preproc macros so they're not runtime based logic, but there's something more abstract that's being illustrated here

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*furina waiting room
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5VJ2RMwRAY

Revy waiting room

>>585837251
I see how it is different, but applied differences still should be stored somewhere, be it the same file or a separate one, so it is more or less the same amount of the code.
It is just that one approach is self sufficient and another takes magic numbers and modifies them according to the "patch".
>You don't need to code the default stuff like stage movement and action, you just need to code the hitboxes and moves.
I can't say anything here, because I haven't seen how CotW does that, but I imagine that you don't need to have a copy of an entire character like Goku to hard code the very basic character functionality like movement in the first place. It makes more sense to have those things as universal functions that characters would call to.
>They shouldn't be tying base mechanics to models directly because that's why the "half as much time to make a new character" issue happens at all.
That sounds like your own misreading of the situation. I imagine that coding the character in is the fastest part in comparison to modeling work and tweaking the animations (like if there's additional cloth stuff or if there's more parts that should move).
If anything, I'm surprised that it is just half as much time, because it is really most of the work.

>>585841624
stuff like hitboxes is not part of the animation, or it shouldn't be, or active frame timing either
animations are a front end representation of the act taking place, but are not necessarily tied to mechanics
you can fully represent anything in the backend of cotw's code with vectored stick figures, simple shapes like spheres joined together, or even a single static bitmap that never animates, and still retain all the LOGIC part (hitboxes, hurtboxes, frame data, etc) without compromise, and if your code cannot do that, your code already fails

and that's the thing, it was the PROPERTIES of moves being disparate between costumes, not necessarily animations which apparently according to mai shiranui, they didn't even tweak adjusting her pants?

the only things that should be different outside cloth physics which should be defined in the model's own data files independently, are the specific animations unique to each costume and not the base animations that can work with both versions, and that is not some impossibility in programming to make happen

alba waiting room

>>585836301
For Brazil, I don't remember any other event happening around that time of the year (holy week). Most of the big fighting game events (Komitê, Treta and such) are usually on the second half of the year.

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>>585850518

Tsugumi waiting room.

>>585842692
Animations should be tied to character frames and frames naturally should represent a certain state that the character is mechanically in, so there absolutely should be some kind of link to the mechanical part. And depending on a costume, there might be a different amount of those links making it a mess that would potentially make the game miss a tick of game logic, even if it was done in a way that ArcSys does this shit.
>and that's the thing, it was the PROPERTIES of moves being disparate between costumes, not necessarily animations which apparently according to mai shiranui, they didn't even tweak adjusting her pants?
In all honesty, it seems more like alternate Mai was rushed, going by the second part and Terry being more polished. I bet that properties being different might be a part of future patch in the state that is currently mid development.
What can I say, it's probably for the best that the regular Mai wasn't affected thanks to the costume being treated as a separate character.

>>585845652
>Animations should be tied to character frames
not necessarily
you're not going to extend or contract an animation based on its frame properties either, it'll look jank
which means you should time one to the other
animations are a collection of moving the bones of the model around in specific ways and since bones are vector math based just like meshes and matrix operations performed on such, it shouldn't be too much trouble to have that be portable across almost all bodies

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>>585850518

Li Xiangfei waiting room.

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>>585839569
balalaika waiting room

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>>585849132

Aqua waiting room.

>>585847791
I still like that idea of a Isekai Quartet team for KOF.

>>585766704
Knock yourself out
https://x.com/EnergyJPx/status/2114928287407591641

>>585849552
FUTURE IS NOW!!

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>>585850518

Alice waiting room.

>>585837305
>>585844894
>>585846791
>>585850207
>xiangfei, panni, tsugumi, and kasumi next year.

Gonna be a zoovie!

>>585850936
now post the "other" pic

>people still think it's panni and not some guestshit

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https://x.com/Napoleon_FGC/status/2115126324020793529
>Fightcade folks asking the organizers why there won't be KOF 2002 at the event. Evo Brazil:
>Don't touch me!
>Filthy KOF2002 player!

none of victory quotes against guests have been in the data mines, you fucking idiot.

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>>585868687

>>585801163
>The Vegeta Jin bro was training under Tung no, just give him his bulk up moves
First thing that came to mind

says the retard who doesn't know that kenshiro's quotes have been there since day 1. what a fucking moron LOL

>>585868280
Welp, new guest here.

>>585868432
>>585868432
wrong, dumbass.

you embrassing moron take a look at the archives before replying. and kill yourself afterwards.

>>585858070
Yes, you're right. It's Sailor Jupiter.

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>>585879364 >>585897371

>>585824719
>>585825049
>>585832773
>>585833065
This is crazy stupid and inefficient, did Harada not tell these guys that they don't need to redo fucking everything for basic costumes? How do they figure that Tekken was able to have a bunch of different outfits and cosmetics, and these guys have been in touch with Tekken team as far back as KOFXIV.

>>585868687
They would never add a Dragon Ball guest because that would actually be popular with the target audience

>>585876957
he really is making excuses of stupid amateurs
oh but *i* don't understand whatever development

>>585879364
It's just such an unnecessary development tax for little gain that people might not fully notice (the sound effects) this is the same mindset that led to XII-XIII going overbudget.

>>585879550
there's a southern saying, as i've said in the past, that reflects this scenario, and i always use it
going around your ass to get to your elbow
if anyone doesn't know what it means just from reading it
it goddamn means (should be obvious) doing things the (needlessly) longer or harder way instead of doing things the normal way to reach the same result, ie you're making it harder or take longer than it should have been had you done it a more proper way
trying to think of a good example outside this circumstance because shit like that doesn't usually enter my stratosphere but let's say you could literally walk two buildings down, it's not even but 500 feet, but instead of walking, you get into your car and driver over to the parking lot next to that building just to go inside
not only did you waste gas, you probably could have simply walked to the building and gotten there faster without all the prep time of starting your car, driving, and then parking and exiting the vehicle

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Fio!
https://x.com/velune9999/status/2114512303777345922

Who will Reina rape first?

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>>585891751
Nobody. Hotaru is the rapist.

>>585876957
I asked AI and it said yeah it’s better to have skins as separate characters in few cases
>if you have a small cast and plan to add only a few skins
>a dedicated skin management system requires you to build inventory databases and a data layer logic
Basically snk never planned to add many skins in the first place as we already know, they planned it for special occasions but the heavy demands made them change their minds.
It’s retarded and shows how outdated this company is, and they always prefer to take shortcuts.

They were so confident that the game would sell that they never bothered with skins even though there’s entire games that make profit only by selling them lol

SNK won (again)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98ws7T_vAGM

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>>585913214 >>585990075

>>585900075
Mai won (again)

Max said he doesn't like Rock anymore because of COTW damn.

Max said 2XKO is making ALL the right choices.

So will Season 4 actually have Fatal Fury characters this time?

>>585902953
This game needs another member from Kim's family.

>>585903351
Kim Possible incoming.

Samsho movie leaked!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViB-tNb2K_k

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>>585990075

>>585900075
>>585900847
If costumes wouldn't be so complicated to make for this game, I would say they should have made a partnership with hololive to have a Laplus costume.
I wonder if SNK Heroines is done the same way since each character had 3 costumes.

based on that gameimpress interview they don't intend on slowing down with the dlc. looks like we're getting 12 characters next year as well

>>585902258
>Says he doesn't care about Rock anymore because he stopped being edgy
>Rock still does the "my evil blood" special win pose if you win the match with Raging Storm
It's more like Max doesn't care about anything SNK since he just wants to repeat what chat says (chat doesn't play SNK games btw) over forming his own opinions.
And this retard wants Rock in Tekken 8? lol

>>585917418
>It's more like Max doesn't care about anything SNK
and he never really did and never really will
at least until snk steps up its game because all it has is "muh number of dlcs per year" for
>one game
and how many of those in the dlc even really get anyone to give a shit about anything other than its nerd core fanbase, if that

>>585917418
https://streamable.com/gamf4q

Clip from EVO France btw, literally just a few weeks ago. Rock even references his evil blood against fucking MIKEY: "You definitely don't have evil blood like mine... But something about you still feels familiar."
It almost like Max doesn't even play Rock's game, huh?

>>585917418
>>585919032
Hate to affirm anything Maximilian says but he's right, there was more to Rock's edginess as character than just a win pose you know.

>>585926846
Yeah he was more emo before.
Good riddance.

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>>586020338

>>585926846
It was just a phase. He's less chunni now.

i love angel

>>585930641
This but Whip

>>585917418
I hate max but if you play motw yes rock was way cooler there. It’s not only about edginess, Rock had that mysterious aura about him which completely disappeared in cotw. He was looking for purpose and the story really presented a potential path for him to become evil if Kain influenced him which keeps you interested.
To make it simple Rock in motw was like Sasuke, while in cotw he becomes the boruto version.

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>>585930641
me too

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>>585936847 >>585968495

>>585932728
This is just a general problem with fighting game storytelling I noticed. Characters tend to get presented completely differently in the gameplay than the actual story. Rock isn't really that inconsistent in MotW cutscenes between is CotW version, but if you see his gameplay exclusively then he probably comes across "cooler" than his actual character. Rock doesn't have an ounce of some what some of the worst SNK winquotes offer (picrel) because of his inner turmoil. One of the worst examples of this is Strive because half the Strive characters will have stories that almost completely contradict their gameplay selves because the stories take place "after" the gameplay incarnation

It's kind of outstanding how little fighting game devs seem capable of presenting their ideas. Characters build entire fanbases off of their designs and actions and then someone actually reads the lore and wonder "do the creators even understand the appeal?"

>>585933870
>Anon literally explains how rock's story in motw is what made him interesting
>Yeah bruv it's just a gameplay thing that's totally not how he was in motw
SNK fanboys are just fucking stupid huh

>>585902258
>>585917418
He's right. Rock is uncool and lame now, just like basically everything SNK does these days. None of these characters nor worlds look appealing/cool with these guys working on them. They're ugly, toothless, and flaccid. Only other companies can make these characters feel cool. Like Geese in Tekken.

>>585936847
I think the stupid mf is the one that gets hype over Mystery Box shit

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>>586070965

>>585930986
Ikari girls for Metal Slug 8!
https://x.com/non_road/status/2079201091359748356

>>585938993
You are low IQed. Don't reply to me.

>>585942283
I notice the people who try to say "you're low IQ" in this thread tend to be the one with the worst takes or have the most off kilter expectations altogether because they have no functional basis for their arguments

>>585942837
You don't even understand the basis of the argument presented in the first place so there's no discussion to be had. You are, as I mentioned, clearly too extremely stupid to figure that out though.

>>585824719
>They program new costumes as new characters for some reason
Those of us paying attention from 2016, already knew this. Now you know why some people make fun of nu SNK's backwards design and choices. Not a "go back to 2d!" guy, but remember when the cope was
>3D is easier and less expensive to make costumes for. Costumes recoup costs"
Yeah, turns out that was bullshit, like some of us knew all along. Cause they barely to rarely make them, and when they do, they're 'redrawing' the entire character anyway.

>>585944862
XIV had a lot of costumes compared to their latter UE titles. They probably still can't utilize it as well as they should, which yes speaks of their incompetence considering it's been 3 games since they've made the switch by now.

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>>585824719
>Seemingly they considered adding Iori but it was scrapped

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>>585945161
Oh yeah, XIV and SNK Heroines had more costumes than the post-UE games.
Samsho had how many again? I know some stayed as japanese-exclusive.

>>585824719
>Seemingly they considered adding Iori but decided against since it would blur the differences between FF and KOF
That's not what they said. Iori was never considered and they were against it in the first place for the reason mentioned.

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>>585977247

Seems like only SNK doesn't understand what they've butchered with COTW.

I literally don't give a fuck what Max (or any other tourist larper like him think), SNK could make the next SamSho the edgiest game ever, and Max will still not play it.

I forgot to mention that everyone who doesn't eat up everything SNK puts out is a larper tourist.

>>585959495
Did Max ever play Samsho?
But yeah, I don't give a fuck about him. I just wish SNK gave more support to Samsho7. Rollback still could be better and no crossplay.

>>585959495
only larper tourists dickride cotw faggot

>>585944862
>>3D is easier and less expensive to make costumes for. Costumes recoup costs"
>Yeah, turns out that was bullshit, like some of us knew all along. Cause they barely to rarely make them, and when they do, they're 'redrawing' the entire character anyway.
In theory yes, but if you're SNK who was retarded enough to not create a database layered system specifically for outfits then yes it would be much harder

>>585933870
That's a cool ass win quote. It gets the job done in making you hate him which is what they were aiming for.

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>>585988853 >>586075368

>>585968495
SNK were really good at trash talk, especially during the early Playmore era. They haven't hit the same since XIV. You just had Kukri and the occasional quip, but nothing ever legitimately severe. I think that's what they thought they were doing with Vox's Reaganomics quote

Old people are just too aware of their identity to want to do things. Meanwhile all the fresh talent is bad and stuck doing the boring gruntwork (poorly)

>>585958156
not really

>>585977247
yes really

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>>585999905

https://x.com/anime_/status/2115443473759318439
Crazy how this still looks better than everything Obari works on nowadays

>>585968896
>SNK were really good at trash talk
it wasn't that they were good, it was that the things that were said were so baffling and absurd that they would be meme-viable
you spoony bard

>>585900075
>>585900847
>>585913214
Isn't this the same girl that had a huge controversy a few weeks ago?

>>585990075
Yep, she is in hiatus now IIRC

>>585997324
SNK really has no luck with these things.

>>585984990
...does look better than iron blooded organs Gundam anime.

You make fun of Preecha, she has consistently been one of the most played characters in the game, and this is with the nerfs, so people do vibe with her. Meanwhile, Vox is like bottom 5 usage.

Umm... boycott xisters...
https://x.com/Evo/status/2115519215109296468?s=19

>>586005112
>she has consistently been one of the most played characters in the game
shunei gets lots of play but that doesn't mean i or anybody else is going to stop making fun of his stupid clothing decisions

>>586009021
Mai is gay

>>586005112
Preecha's face looks especially bad in a game where all the faces look weird. Also she looks better with other hair colors but the color edit is there to fix that I guess
Otherwise her design is ok and her animations are cute, also buddying up based retard Joe with a genius brat is a fun enough idea

https://x.com/Just_Egg13/status/2115402204236656802

KOF bros...

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>>586029779

>>586013072
cute retard

Yukkuri Kula and Yuri talking about the recent interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAHIYr0LFWQ

>>586014510
I can't remember how was the life before autotranslation.

>>585928075
Hotaru has to be extra protective to Rock because she can smell Reina nearby...

>>586013072
>Kentucky of Fried Chicken
He might be onto something.

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>>586030485 >>586032565

>>586011795
I think Preecha is alright and cute her face is a lot better than Jenet. People are overreacting her design. Of course I would want some of those discarded ones as alternate costumes but we know how SNK is with those.

>>586013072
I wonder if she would think that both franchises are the same if she went to play KOFXV.

>>586013671
She's just a doggo

>>586022789
Lmfao nigga you still post that image I posted saying there’s potential in her design, glad you like it.
Use this alternative color template as her official design, remove the glasses and let her hair be straight, and you will get a 10/10 character.

>>586014510
I'm glad even japanese people question why it took so long to have Mai in her classic costume.

>>586022789
>spoiler
nicest guy in prison
preecha isn't like some offensive design, it's just that she's so mid that she as a new character doesn't really shine like a new character should
>>586030954
it took them a while to even ask because they barely even noticed that the game existed kek

>>586005224
What was the boycott? What did Brazil do wrong?

Hey, Oda! Take notes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-pDJQknmds

>>586035414
Oh they're doing a next generation cast too, interesting

>>586036264
>Next Generation
That's just an older Lion. "Stella" is the only "next generation" character so far. If she isn't just a clone.

>>586036549
I thought it was supposed to be Lion's son

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>Kof16 by Sega

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>>586037395

>>586036791
Pai is not that much of a hag for that. I think they're keeping all the younger ones making them older. Now Shun, Lao and others are just not coming back.
Lion's backstory was about being a rich kid trying to prove himself.

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>>586048048

>>586029779
Lucky Blue Mary

>>586034827
FGC brainlets were claiming that having more than one EVO tournament would ruin its prestige, causing attendance numbers to drop. That, plus troons trying to boycott anything with Saudi presence. Brazil just proved all of them wrong.

>>586037150
still would

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>>586037395
Easily. But I find it weird the mystery of Stella and so far we don't have any clue about what happened to Sarah or Jacky. But I think this game will have a pretty small roster. Still the game looks amazing mogging every competition out there.
Hag Eileen when?

>>586035414
This game has one of the worst character designs I’ve ever seen. They’re literally Preecha and Vox level but the graphics are hiding it. There’s no substance or culture they’re just normalfags because muh realism.

>>586037268
>plus troons trying to boycott anything with Saudi presence
And conveniently go quiet when Saudis have presence in things they like like Nintendo, Capcom, Squeenix...

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>>586039441 >>586041806 >>586149753

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6WLQG-VvM4
It's up!

>>586037870
>but the graphics are hiding it
if only snk had the same problem

>>586038727
What Mai has to say about this Andy?

>>586035414
looks dope

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>>586101520

>>586038727
>sega trailer = high level graphics
>snk (with infinite money) trailer = this cringe shit
snk AAA company never ever

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the king of fart when

watching some jubei movies from japan, can someone post some jubei clips

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>>586049918

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkOtCU4LYXc
It's starting

>>586037251
I find it heartwarming how they didn't acknowledge if Anton is still alive. Yeah, he looks to be on her stage but in her story, she looks to live alone with plushies that resembles Anton.

>>586046265
>Rebroadcast
nah

>>586049918
There is no live for this competition. Did you even watch the other sessions?

>>586035414
looks boring

>>586026513
She would probably like KOF more due to the character designs.

>>586053879
Hi, Oda.

>>586005224
Kinda amazing considering the prices are a lot higher than any tournament that happens in Brazil.

>>586058826
Tickets are probably expensive, but it's still cheaper than flying to the US and applying for a visa

>>586063416
You're right about that. Also the event happens during the holy week so friday is a national holiday. The organization did it right setting on those dates.

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>>585941859
https://x.com/onisakaduki/status/2115725979348033808

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>>586073320

>>586013072
Why do SNK fans keep pretending anything SNK is super popular and/or relevant at all? They always act so shocked and upset when people don't know anything about them, as if they haven't been completely irrelevant since they went bankrupt in 2001. It's like how they keep trying to push SNK as being in the same sphere as Capcom, Namco, etcetera in modern day. Never seen a fanbase try to hard to deny reality, and refuse to accept that the company they like is in the extremely niche category.

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>>586076084 >>586076651

>>586072905
Mai literally saved your game, bluefag

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Rimu strong!
https://x.com/tongpoo_rf/status/2113505224220627251

>>585968896
Maybe something were added/missed during the translations? We know how Mai and Chun-li's english translation differs quite a lot from the original japanese where they were just a bit of a banter and in english they're taunting each other a lot.

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>>586073320
You mean Ingrid, right? Cuz an overrated bitch like Mai couldn't even save her own game lmao

>>586073320
SF6 was popular before Mai though? There's also 2 characters that got the game to peaks higher than Mai's. Also, Mai is as popular she is now solely because of SF6/Capcom. Sadly, not because of her own company since they're severely amateur, and can't make their own characters/IPs appealing themselves.

>>586076084
>>586076651
This is pure cope. Ingrid had a higher peak due to controversy. Nobody was begging for that character nor cares about her. Alex won off of patch grift. Akuma is akuma. Mai literally shifted your content. All you get now is bathing suits and coom stuff just to whiff of that high Mai gave yall.

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>>586079070

>>586077156
Well looks like that smelly cunt and her original outfit didn't do shit to boost her own game's popularity. Such a shame lol

>>586078143
What's crazy is the most irrelevant in either game is Chun so...

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>>586091207 >>586097727 >>586199479 >>586202329 >>586216452

oof

>>586077156
If Mai is the reason for SF6's success, then explain why Mai being in COTW and KOF for the last 20 years haven't made KOF nor COTW popular?

>>586079548
First of all, Mai only one of the many goddesses at SNK. Any SNK female would have produced the same result if not better in SF6.

>>586080017
>Any SNK female would have produced the same result if not better in SF6
This! If a basic bitch whose only gimmick is being obsessed with Andy can pull that kind of attention, imagine what another chick with actual personality and presence could've achieved. SNK is just fucking retarded, they've never known how to tap into the potential of their other girls.

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>>586091207

>>586084678
Chun jobbing and getting crows feet = personality and presence has done her wonders. I'm so jealous of bluefags man. I can't wait for her personality and presence to get replaced by Li-Fen

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>>586079306
>>586088894
wow she's headed to 22nd place in cotw... must be Chuns lucky number

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>>586100343

SNK finding out that they can make costumes for a fighting game without recreating the whole character from scratch

>>586079306
They won't ever let her do shit after her dashes, right?

>>586094903
I can't understand Japanese programming/developer mindset sometimes. I can't tell you how fucking often and frustrating it was to see something like Monster Hunter have game logic tied to the FPS even as far as Monster Hunter World.
Not making a layering/database system for your 3d models in a series that focuses so much on its characters is beyond baffling. I'm pretty sure this also would be grounds to fail someone in a game developer course like tying game logic to FPS.

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>>586041806
j-just you wait until 2033, buddy >->:(

>>586100343
>I'm pretty sure this also would be grounds to fail someone in a game developer course like tying game logic to FPS
it would be a bad idea if only the fps is adjustable
otherwise it is fine for what it is outside parsing input from the controllers, but input detection should run on a different fork from game logic

>>586100343
Japan has the lowest wages amongst the developed countries. That’s why they take shortcuts and deliver subpar services while China can shit out 10 wukong level games a year.

>>586107615
they also cut corners on their programming education given their cybersecurity method is "pls do not hack us, it is immoral" and then they get hacked and the hackers just lol at them and then they are like "let's just block every ip that isn't japanese because only japaneseu have honoru codeu against hacku"

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>>586127684 >>586181789

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBD0XDrKlI

>>586107946
>"let's just block every ip that isn't japanese because only japaneseu have honoru codeu against hacku"
They don’t block ips because of attacks, they already are by default because they don’t want koreans and chinese. It’s really not about you or security or anything. And it doesn’t matter either way, they don’t update their security systems because they can’t pay higher wages.

>>586108529
>they already are by default because they don’t want koreans and chinese
bro, seiga nicovideo used to be (at least mostly) globally accessible and now we can't access it unless we're straight from japan
and that's not the only one and it won't end there
if you're gonna go about this narrative at least be honest about it instead of trying to cheese it like a lib making shit up

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>>586109086 >>586147035

>>586030485
Told AI to do it and there you have it, indeed 10/10 character.

srsly it's not all wages, what the fuck kind of wages were they providing before that it wasn't an issue
even though nico's was more of a payment processor and international restrictions issues, there is no narrative about pay in there

>>586108973
oh cool now she's lili rochefort with some hairclip
a character that would have at least drawn some more eyes, even if they wouldn't play the game
reina's just ehhh she's a girl at least and the game did need that

also btw
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/15/japan-cyber-security-ministernever-used-computer-yoshitaka-sakurada
this guy is like people in charge in japan in a nutshell
they payroll to boss people around so they don't have to experience or know anything themselves
and paying to get people to do things is excellent logic
WHEN YOU'RE NOT THE HNIC OF SAID THING

>>586108826
I was talking in general like in 5ch that banned foreign ips after korean cyberattacks, and even in the case of seiga nicovideo that you mentioned the stated reason by the company was to cut costs because local laws both overseas and in china demanded manga censorship, and tailoring content for every region costs money.
So who’s making shit up retard? Me or libtard raving about how Japanese are racist and hate foreigners

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>>586110225

>>586109452
>was to cut costs
lol no
your stupid narrative about wages does not apply
>or libtard raving about how Japanese are racist and hate foreigners
aren't you the one going on about them hating koreans or w/e
i mean *i* didn't say anything about such xenophobia and i don't see anyone else in this a and b conversation yet

>>586109452
After the Uma Visa incident, they have a right to be racist imo

>>586100343
You have never made a game.

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>>586109821 >>586147035

>>586109086
That’s just one hairstyle, you can pick anything you want, but it doesn’t matter you will keep complaining because you’re a faggot.

>>586109725
it's not my fault you're unoriginal
just do another ponytail, that's what snk likes to fall back on when they can't do something refreshing

>>586109627
In China it’s worse they always get banned and censored no matter how much they try to appease the government. And China is the main reason they try to expand globally, so they just stopped caring.

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>>586109891
>they always get banned and censored
snowbreak bros......

>>586109625
>*i* didn't say anything about such xenophobia and i don't see anyone else in this a and b conversation yet
>because only japaneseu have honoru codeu against hacku"
Retard.

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>>586110673

case in point, going by a jap glassdoor review of snk, the pay is apparently pretty good enough to keep them working there, but as far as talent goes, they still suck, so with all the wage talk, why aren't they any better to reflect the wages
>>586110225
omg dude that's not even talking about racism, you really had to stretch that one
you're like that guy who wants to make reasons up to talk about why snk should make games in a different genre

>>586109821
>brings something else to complain about
Lmfao such a low t faggot

>>586110391
you're the one talking about complaining, i was just making fun of the fact that all you did was make lili in preecha's outfit and you took it personal lmao at your're life

Funny the arguments shifted ever so slightly in topic and it's still everyone making the same points expecting any points to be made when nobody agrees with each other

>>586110319
>you're like that guy who wants to make reasons up to talk about why snk should make games in a different genre
Not only retarded but a schizo too kek

>>586110469
well *i'm* not gonna agree to no "jap cant do thing cuz low wages" like he's doing some kind of parallel to the faggot dub voice actors complaining about "weak" pay and lack of residuals because apparently they're so important

devs suck because they don't know what they're doing and most of them are unwilling or unable to get better either because of their ego or because they are not cut out for it
and if you're not taking up the bruce lee "always a student" mentality, you're going to be a stagnant person as a developer because there are always things to learn that you don't know about, and you don't know what you don't know until you know that you don't know
that's not simply a pay issue
you can resolve willingness to work with pay, sure, but pay alone doesn't make someone automatically better at their jobs
there are a lot of americans who suck at their jobs but get paid a lotcoughlibjudges
>>586110673
oh nos more ad hominems what shall i do

Japan having low wages is a fact, it’s not something up to debate, how a company like SNK can deal with it is up to them, it’s not a justification for their poor decisions.
But I never brought up SNK, it was to explain why JP websites and security systems are usually outdated, it’s your retarded schizo ass that made it about SNK somehow, because again you must always complain about daddy.

>>586111148
whoops but this was you
>Japan has the lowest wages amongst the developed countries. That’s why they take shortcuts and deliver subpar services
you said a cause and effect statement to correlate wage and the latter statement made when that's a dumb assessment

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>>586112215

>>586111363
oh and that statement about 10 wukongs? hmmm looks like ai be disagreeing with you here and the only thing you can bring up is living expenses lol
wait wait wait
WAIT i got it
japs can't do 10 wukongs a year because their living expenses are greater than china's on average
yes that's the ticket
totally not non sequitur logic

Since wages are low young people in Japan don’t choose game development as a profession, so companies a lot of times are left with old people who’re still in the industry.
Are you kid do I have to explain everything literally to you like it’s ABC?

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>>586111595
You’re mentally stunted.

Of course China would have a lower average overall because they have factories that must shit out all type of counterfeit goods but it doesn’t translate to game development obviously.

>>586111846
duh, i said it before, pay can be used to incentivize people to join, but it won't automatically make a bad worker better
an snk dev can go to china with some promise of such "higher pay" but it won't make them better at their jobs
you're just talking about filtering people who are already good vs those who just want the pay but suck at it
any good company that is drawing dimes will know how to manage a thing to draw dimes, and that's an issue of attitude, like hey, this foreigner from japan has great talent, let's hire him into our chinese firm, okay, great, he's really doing great things for us

that's really an attitude problem, and it's not like a small time company or a lack of dimes company in china is gonna pay so much for so little in return, that's why they abandoned snk in the first place

there's more to it than just throw more money

let's say hypothetically snk increased their offer for 3d modelers to 300k usd/yr
but who will they hire? probably the wrong people again because they're stupid
maybe they'll hire some friend or family of an employee already working there because of stupid
maybe oda or someone else thinks this person is so good
why? because nobody up there knows better
that article above was about a guy who didn't know better, he just threw money at people he thought did
so yes, money can incentivize the right people if you know who the right people are to look for

but simply thinking money itself will solve the problem is naive

let's talk about AAA companies, like our favorite region for them, commiefornia
they tend to throw lots of money at people, but do you think they hire the right people? arguably not really, and we can argue that usa is better paid than china on average when it comes to major studios in game dev work
but still, those studios come with even major gaffes at times
and these people who get paid more than a taco bell employee and less worked than one still whine about things like pay even though they spend half the time there chatting at the watercooler with their coworkers about daily life shit and how they're so stressed having to climb some stairs sometimes

money is an invitation, yes, we've established that, but it doesn't solve the problem by itself and it is not the cause for incompetence, just a supplement for interest's sake and it doesn't preclude the existence of talented individuals in the subset in question just because you said something about how pay doesn't make it worth learning such a skill

the bottom line for all this wall of text is that there's more to it than just one thing and it's the same tunnel vision i keep having to address everytime someone tries to come up with a simple solution for everything like "THIS will save snk" or some other statement that's pretty daft that it comes off as some kind of joke or meme instead
the whole region of japan can up their game with higher wages in the fields but if the education of such still hasn't increased that much because it's limited to what they already know, then people will be limited in what they can offer to a company regardless of how much is being offered or how much they ask for in pay

the scenario is a whole lot more complicated than simply throwing money at people and thinking that it'll reflect in the results

if you aren't talking about snk, you should be because it's p much an snk thread even though you spend half the thread whining and sourgraping about other companies or max because he offended your favorite company

>>586104527
Jiggling puta

Sajam could never
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlTZ-0kuL60

>>586108476
*counters you*

How come no one is talking about how shitty the Switch 2 version is?

>>586129674
Nobody with half a brain would buy that piece of crap game

Does Yuri shout "HAOH SHOKO KEN!!" when she climaxes?

>>586122107
Looks like he lost a lot of weight. Good for him.

SNK's next guest should be Taimanin Yukikaze.

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>>586147035

I believe that overall out of all the prototypes l that’s the best redesign for Preecha. Snk hire me.

>>586129674
...why are you lying? every review of the switch 2 version has been good.
https://youtu.be/DiBJmz6qpfU?si=XfwoSrO5frQL4Mqf

https://youtu.be/dkaqY_enDH8?si=A9gxCrjlOVYpqQqV

https://youtu.be/gtmOg4MUrk8?si=tORLcl8EYRARuDR0

https://youtu.be/Y-sMG3bqGP8?si=-CHRz8KFi4Lt3Pbd

And here is a video comparing the switch 2 version to the steam deck and ps5 versions. Switch 2 version is good.
https://youtu.be/bHQ8smgMp8w?si=4KFi-VrQmOzidixD

I don't understand why you would lie about a game you obviously don't own. It's not even based on your own impressions of the game.

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>>586147354

The Last Blade!

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>>586227540

>>586140778
So they're finally chasing after what SFV did years ago. Better late than never.
>>586142548
>>586109725
>>586108973
I think ditching the glasses goes against the "scientist fighter" archetype. She's just a pretty blonde muay thai fighter. If you're going to do that, maybe add the sleeveless coat from one of the discarded designs.

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>>586144178
hehe moetarou?

>>586038727
Even them thought the Tokyo Revengers kids would be a single slot duo character.

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>>586155282

Don't open this picture!
GET SPOOKED

>>586150419
She'll save COTW just like she saved KOFXV.

>>586140778
I think I'm so out of touch that I only know the pro players there.

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>>586165985 >>586169965

My girlfriend just arrived from China!

>>586155282
NESTS existing in Fatal Fury for no reason would be hilarious.

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>>586189390

>>586138608
I could see her appealing to guys who are into petite girls with fat asses.

>>586159143
nice, anon.

>>586159143
That's actually pretty cute. Good face there.

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>>586172980

https://x.com/miharasan/status/2116108872025014771

Will you buy the Oda life-size figure?

>>586170674
good lord that is one busty Mai figure

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>>586159172
Instead of kidnapping Kyo, they kidnap Mai to make thousands upon thousands of clones of her.
Just like some other ninja, from some other fighting game series.

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>>586176343 >>586184367

>>586169965
For context, this is the preview they had on their website.

>>586175065
More smug but yours is not bad. I like it.

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>>586215624

>>586172980
Oh! I hadn't noticed. I’m going to throw it in the trash. Thanks, anon.

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>>586181049 >>586181789

now that doa is actually an "active" ip with doa6lr and doa7 in the works, expect a doa character or two in cotw.

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>>586181789 >>586237297

>>586179318
I always liked to mess with the idea of Kasumi (and Ayane) being added to CotW, they could even reference Mai being in DoA. Koei Tecmo is generally open to collabs, so let's just hope SNK can fit them into the roster.

>>586179318
>>586181049
Damn, what if we get Kasumi before Kasumi >>586108476 ?

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>>586181789
We already have 3 Kims and 3 Kens. 2 Kasumis won't be a problem.

>>586142620
It has massive input lag. Obviously the sponsored reviews aren't going to point that out you imbecile.

>>586175065
I prefer the one I got

https://x.com/Just_Egg13/status/2116122211555901567

kek, based doggo

>>586185830
Good to know that Vtubbers have common sense.