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Lessons in Love General #16

This general is for the discussion of the adult English visual novel Lessons in Love, where you take over as the teacher for a class of 20 students trying to make their way through life. BEWARE: There is a lot of sex.

>Game links
https://djnostyle.itch.io/lessons-in-love (It's free!)
https://subscribestar.adult/selebus

>Tools
Guide mod (get this!): https://f95zone.to/threads/lessons-in-love-progress-and-guide-mod-v0-57-0-cckerberos.106973/ ~ https://workupload.com/file/tGkBJshZzrD
Automod (transforms the game from sandbox to fully linear): https://f95zone.to/threads/lessons-in-love-autovn-mod-linear-mod-v0-59-0.221087/
Flowchart: https://drive.google.com/file/d/11fllvDn805bE_8JOl7TKOTM40O6LJnkN/view
URM (for editing values): https://0x52.dev/mods/Universal-Ren-Py-Mod-1000
Puzzle guide: https://attachments.f95zone.to/2025/11/5442808_Lessons_in_Love_Resets.txt

>Community works
Wiki (includes translations for hex/etc): https://lessonsinlove.wiki/
Fanart: https://www.lessonsinlovegame.com/galleries/fan-art/

>FAQ
Q: The world is broken and I can't progress! What do?
A: That's intentional. Try to work out how to progress, or check the puzzle guide if you really can't figure it out.
Q: Is there any way to find scenes easier? I keep getting lost.
A: The guide mod in the tools section will show exactly what scenes are available and how to get them at any given time. It's highly recommended. You can also use URM to raise the affection/lust values of characters if you get tired of grinding them.
Q: What kind of /vn/ is this, exactly?
A: It's a sprawling, 3-million-word long harem dating sim with an emphasis on slice-of-life comedy and romance that at times dips into denpa (schizo) themes and slowly unfurls a grander narrative as a web of drama forms between the cast. Play the start and you'll soon see what's up.

Previous thread: >>584669147
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>>585655023
i fucking love pink sluts
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>>585655182
Me too
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our first thread op war... beautiful
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>>585655792
I wouldn't have contested a HOPE one usually but the schizotext on the links is kind of destructive for new players
especially when these threads last 1-2 weeks
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>>585655361
i've having a good time. it completely inverted my sleep schedule. thank god i'm not employed right now.
rested; maybe i'll get to fuck one of the girls today.
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>>585656164
I also discovered and marathoned LiL after taking a month off work essentially.. I had a trip planned but I just came home early and played LiL all day.
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>>585656575
Sex with both at the same time
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>>585658209
you have two dicks??
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>>585658328
I have GoD GOD god God to thank for that
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>>585655182
>>585655749
Me three, bros. Nobody looks better in a skimpy swimsuit than her. And she's not just any slut!

Noriko is pink, she's submissive, and she's a human sextoy. At the same time, she's intelligent, talented, determined, and utterly loyal. Literally the perfect sister-wife.

>>585655524
Just look at that perky piece of ass. K-what's-her-name is part of the background.

>>585655023
Excellent choice, her expression really conveys that the only desire of her heart is to please her big brother. The coming weeks of total Noriko appreciation are off to a great start.
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>>585658710
What I like is that she's an anarchist opposed to the patriarchy, but when it comes to Sensei she's so weak she instantly sucks his dick on demand.
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I envy Sensei
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I see the last thread turned into picrel at the end.
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>>585661436
it's pretty great
>>585658610
this is why for most of human history, parents kept their daughters on a very short leash.
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>>585661106
Since you're getting close to the point where you get choices that actually matter, I'm going to explain a little more about how the game works. In the event tracker, when you unlock an event its name will turn green. But if you miss an event it will turn red (and it's name will change). The game is designed so you can see every event in one playthrough if you make the right choices, so there aren't events that are mutually exclusive.

Anyway, there are things you can do that will cause you to just miss an event or two, but there are also things you can do that will trigger what we call a "red route." This occurs if you refuse to have sex with or sexually pursue certain characters (you get this choice with a handful of them). If you do this it will start locking you out of a lot of that character's events. But it doesn't stop there. The red routes also have a cascading effect where they eventually start locking you out of events for other, unrelated characters, or even lock you out of access to other characters' routes entirely. Basically refusing to fuck anyone in this game just punishes you. Having sex with them won't ever punish you, but refusing to will, and it gets pretty bad later and you'll miss important parts of the story (not to mention sex).

The guide mod should warn you about any event that can cause stuff like this on the Hints page with a red (!) you can click on for details. But as a general rule of thumb, to avoid any of this happening, just fuck literally everyone and make every morally bad decision you possibly can, no matter what it is. The game will only reward for you it.
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>>585663071
>>585661106
>But as a general rule of thumb, to avoid any of this happening, just fuck literally everyone and make every morally bad decision you possibly can, no matter what it is. The game will only reward for you it.
There is one exception to this, though, in Chapter 1. There's an event for Chika that you shouldn't do until after the beach trip occurs. There are a couple other things you should do in a certain order also. The guide mod will warn you about all of this too, though.
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Is Selebius the composer as well? the music is pretty good in the game even though i am a fag who likes classical/classic rock.

>>585663071
yeah i've been picking up more on how the event tracker works and everything. i see that i have a time limit for Chika and Futaba for example, but I haven't had a chance to raise Lust yet, I'm sure that will come. no problem with being a degenerate, that suits me.

I'm saving frequently so if I do get locked out of a route I might be able to go back; since I'm still figuring out VNs I may miss something anyway. i have no idea when the Snow-Covered Footprints is so i'm trying to spend more time with Chika and Futaba.

i appreciate you taking the time to give me advice here, it's very helpful.
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>>585663358
I don't think it's supposed to show those two Chika and Futaba events on the Hints page yet, so that may be a bug. Those are early events in Chapter 2 and you have until the end of Chapter 1 to hit the lust requirement, so you have plenty of time. You don't need to focus on them specifically or worry about this right now.

There's also a wiki you can look at if you want details on something (though it has spoilers on it so don't dig around too much). It's an official one that's supported by the game.

https://www.lessonsinlove.wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

>Is Selebius the composer as well?
Most of the music is freely available stuff, but some of it is commissioned or licensed, and he did modify some of it.
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>>585663358
>>585663358
Nah, he's a hobbyist musician though and spent a lot of time trawling Japanese music websites to license stuff that he thought would fit the game though. Only a few were commissioned by him.
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>>585664180
>You don't need to focus on them specifically or worry about this right now.
good to know. i felt like i really had to focus them.
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>>585664729
On the bright side I don't remember this problem occurring often. I only remember it happening once, much later in the game. Anyway, I found a good way to play it was to keep all the girls relatively balanced with each other in terms of affection levels, at least for the main ones. You don't really need to focus on specific ones at the expense of the others unless you let them lag behind.
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>>5855472933
Ok....I know now why Uta had to leave Nara
And I'm guessing her stalker is in kumon-mi
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>>585665228
Did you try "responding" to the picture message?
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>>585665228
>>585665698
SAVE FIRST
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>>585665698
Yes.....I am undeserving of his love.....BUT BOY HOW ABOUT THE 1999 PC CLASSIC ROLLERCOASTER TYCOON
Man.....send those bitches into the pond after cutting off half the track
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>>585667119
Woah is that... A water bottle?
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>>585659404
Feminism's strongest warrior
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>>585656575
is it a mod or a setting to have the day displayed in the upper-left corner
i'm noticing that outside of the dialogue box it doesn't appear to show the current day anywhere, and i am the kind of guy that forgets that shit immediately. it should at least be on my phone...

>>585667507
yes. yes it is.
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>>585667684
That's just what default UI looked like before the latest update.
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>>585667684
>is it a mod or a setting to have the day displayed in the upper-left corner
That was the original UI of the game until it got changed in the last update to being in the textbox. If you need to see it for the phone or something just scroll back a line.
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>Miss the scene for being a good uncle
>The conversation implies it happened anyway
Awhups
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>>585668130
Pure unadulterated kino incoming.
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>>585668232
I try to think about what I'd do in a character's shoes. Sometimes there's a discrepancy, sometimes there's not.
But I think, if the chance was there, I might let that suspicious voice take the wheel. Even if all it promises is misery, that's all we've already had. But maybe, just maybe, there'll be a chance to take the wheel.
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>>585668130
If you want to see what it was.
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>>585668518
That's fucked.
But I still expect Sensei to at least think he hadn't done it while Maya confirms what actually happened.
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idk why but this spooked the fuck outta me
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>>585668707
Selebus has a way with vaguely menacing smiley faces
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>>585669101
vaguely? shit came out of nowhere.
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this was very pleasant
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That's a very loaded line from Molly there (the first line I mean). So many little things here and there you don't catch at all the first time you read the game.
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>>585673068
Forgot my trip.
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pffft
It's the little things in life
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>>585673068
Also IIRC it's a line from Clannad.
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Things that nerds say.
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Someone does NOT seem happy about this.
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Good luck with that.
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I'm out, but uh...
For those of you starting out, keep a notepad handy and write ANY funny numbers or phrases or notes you find. Thank yourself later.
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>>585676512
Time for gigakino
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>>585676634
Way ahead of ya
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Closing thoughts: I'm gonna kill myself.
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I thought it was good that the game kind of belabored this point later when Rin accepts she's in love with Sensei, that she viewed people like Chika or Otoha in this kind of way where she didn't want them to know bad stuff about her, but never felt that way about Sensei.
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>>585678003
Welcome to the club, buddy.
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>>585678003
>>585678151
I too know this feel...
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I hope this doesn't turn into despair kino... I'm liking how comfy, even occasionally creepy it is.
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>>585678878
I'd like to tell you it won't but...
You can't live with the lies forever.
You have to face it.
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>>585678878
It definitely has some downer parts but it doesn't stay that way permanently or something.
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>>585678003
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>>585679486
I'LL NEVER SMILE AGAIN
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>>585679530
I will offer you a small ray of hope that you may ignore if you don't want any spoilers.
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Not sweet, innocent, pure Sana, no I can't believe it.
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The genius of comedy has finally arrived.
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>>585686818
noodles can be our friends...
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Begs the question of what the correlation with Maki's and Haruka's husbands being in the space war is with whatever their situations were in the real world. Going with the aliens representing death metaphor from NiB, you could assume they just died, which is definitely reasonable in the case of Maki, but with Haruka you do get the information later that her husband is still alive (to whatever degree that would matter). Perhaps you could be more abstract with the idea of death here and have it apply to just their marriage falling apart or something.
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Aaaaand back in the garbage you go.
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>>585688695
So Haruka's husband has been gone for three years, which I would guess it's safe to assume as the start of the space war. I'm not sure whether to read anything into this or not. Three years does correlate with Sensei leaving the Old District with Maya and abandoning Noriko, since Noriko says that's how long ago it was when she last saw him.
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Hmm...
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>>585690656
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My favorite part of this thread is seeing what new anons reacting to their first reading
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>>585700382
Kind of funny that most of them seem to have just randomly found the game from this thread.
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Maya line that you'd gloss over on an initial read.
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>>585700382
Too busy reading to be reacting, gomenasorry.
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I'd say this doesn't work quite as well since Sensei's name now has a color, but black is technically "not a color."
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>>585706079
I think Sel forgot this event when making the Sensei color change.
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>>585707228
Yeah, that's my assumption as well. Though of course he only did that to add a dark mode.
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Terminal 23.

Also my affection level for Maya happened to be at 23 when I tried to do this just now, so I had to back and raise it to check that the phone shows 23 regardless, lol.
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You can actually see this slightly earlier in the game during Ami's event Walking On Air if you tell her to call you Daddy or something to that effect. It flashes right at the end before making you choose a different name.
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Second time Sensei gets referred to as Sekai in one of these. In an earlier one his name gets changed to Sekai in hexadecimal. You also have him wanting to put on Sekai's dress in Ode to a Marsh Warbler. Easiest way to take that I think is representing the cyclical nature of abuse.
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>>585717886
I'm surprised Niki didn't just kill herself after how hard Noriko cucked her. That was definitely like suicide level.
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i just hope there's a happy ending
there better be if this takes a nonstop WEEK to finish...
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>>585722128
there are supposed to be route endings for each of the heroines, presumably they'll be on the happy side. we're still years away from that though
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>>585722128
Buddy,
I've been powering through this and I JUST got to the start of the 4th chapter. I started on the 2nd.
It's gonna take quite a bit more than a week.
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>>585723428
i think he meant assuming not stopping to sleep or eat or anything
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>>585724626
That's 168 hours.
That's still not enough.
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>>585724626
that is what i meant
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>>585724626
Even then. I did that when I binged Worm, and it took me 3 days. Well, more like 70 hours since I still had uni classes, but luckily no exams.
LiL would take WAY more than that, multiple thats even.
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>be me
>can barely write a page
>be Selebius
>write a multi-million-word epic that rivals Gilgamesh and the Bible
>most of it is ACTUALLY very decent instead of just schizoid slop (there is also schizoid slop)
is he an alien?
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>>585727206
Selebus is an alien and LiL is is way of hopefully communicating with humans successfully. He offers us sexy teens as a gift.
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>>585727206
i can only speculate his thanatophobia is so intense that he can only feel at ease by spending most of his time immortalizing himself through art
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>>585727612
>is an alien
>offers us sexy teens as a gift.
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If you had to choose... i'm going with them fries.
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why do I want to bully her? is that bad?
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>>585736179
she was made for bullying
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>>585737375
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>>585661106
yeah why could that be...
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>>585742270
who's having sex? not sensei (yet). not me (ever).
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>>585742270
Makoto's right, Sensei has so much love to give
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>>585742270
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>>585744061
sensei's such a silly guy
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the epic of gilgamesh but cunny
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>>585748592
LiL is, clearly, heavily inspired by the Tale of Genji
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>>585748685
unironically i believe this, right down to sensei being this guy who is adored for no particular reason, and welcomed/accommodated by nearly everyone.
https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/your-book-review-the-tale-of-genji
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>>585749991
>who is adored for no particular reason
Don't think that quite applies to Sensei, but I do get what you mean.
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>>585749991
>who is adored for no particular reason, and welcomed/accommodated by nearly everyone
Nah, that applies more to the LiL clones.
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All of the heroines like Sensei because he's a good person who never does anything wrong and only has a positive influence on their lives. I thought this was obvious.
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>>585755320
He has to, imo, wear them down in multiple resets until the leftover engram that gets reset has a favorable impression of him, after which it's easier. Helps that many of the girls have issues too.
>Dorm 6: innocence
>Dorm 7: bad history
>Dorm 8: feels the weak interior
>Dorm 9: gaslighted hard
>Dorm 10: love him and express it in their own ways
While I was making this, I thought of that one NTR side story and wonder if it's a situation like Midnight in Paris.
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>>585753681
Spare the older one.
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>>585757126
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>>585756114
Or maybe they're just attracted to his innate qualities such as sound moral judgment and self-restraint.
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>>585757352
hot, hot, hot. maya is so fucking hot.
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>>585758938
i think it's the eyes.
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>>585750425
>>585754936
the shrine theme is so relaxing, sounds like some peaceful town ditty from an rpg
>literally called Hammock of Peace
fitting
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ok... i'm fucking stumped now.

aaaaaaaaaa what is happening
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DO NOT THE
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>>585763389
>my honest reaction
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>>585763389
Welcome to Lessons in Love.
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>>585764359
you and me both, sensei. you and me both.
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found the song
https://genius.com/Harry-dacre-daisy-bell-bicycle-built-for-two-lyrics
what does it mean??
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>>585764990
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uerNtYhgzSw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41U78QP8nBk
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>>585763389
if you hear voiceovers in an event, said event is probably hiding more clues than we will ever find out
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i really have no words for what i just witnessed
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>>585765939
Smile!
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>>585764990
In this context?
Probably something to do with a lower state of functioning and what might lie at the core of his experiences.
>>585764829
>>585765939
Welcome to the wild ride.
Also keep an eye out for this girl. She's always somewhere you never think to look.
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>>585765939
imo, this event is a summary of the game itself
keep that in mind, and remember to replay events
also, smile!
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>>585765905
i took a bunch of screenshots
would i be spoiling myself if I asked Claude what they mean?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx2FCTn1gZQ
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>>585764990
This >>585766036
So basically https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS3h1bxmVR4
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how about yasu op next?
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>>585766339
>would i be spoiling myself if I asked Claude what they mean?
Yeah, definitely. That, or the clanker will hallucinate so hard Sel will find out, hopefully reach the same conclusions ZUN reached, and make an event focused on AI.
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>>585766339
In terms of the like coded messages the wiki has translations and it's not spoilerly, no
https://www.lessonsinlove.wiki/index.php?title=The_Room_With_Clocks#Secret-0
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>>585766581
i'll stay in the dark then. the names are clearly hexadecimal. i could figure that out myself, but i'm not sure the number strings mean anything.
the Japanese and the Eldritch tongue leave me baffled.
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god is dead
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>>585766510
it is getting close to her time but someone last thread already asked for a kaori thread next
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>>585766339
>>585766942
You can also just figure them out yourself if you're so inclined, it's not that hard.
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>>585666138
So Tsukasa's two part event began to reinforce my belief she's a spoiled shit
The end taught me she's spoiled but likely neglected and juat wants to spend time with her parents
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>>585768830
i feel it's ambiguous. it is as they say, open to interpretation.
>>585766418
forgot all about this
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>>585768960
Ah, you meant the symbols, not the cryptic shit. That stuff will make more sense down the line, actually when you understand more of the situation and just what the fuck is going on.
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>>585769309
honestly the only thing that makes any sense is simulation theory, because of how ubiquitous and open-ended it is. but i really have no idea. there are themes of death, themes of Christianity. it's all tied up in sexuality.
it's really cool, honestly. but perplexing.
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>>585769563
also the insects. termites, spiders.
idk i'm just rambling. i hope i don't dream about this shit.
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>>585769563
>>585769781
It's great, innit
There will be time when it seems to dip into straight pretentious territory, but even then it has meanings that aren't immediately discernable and later parts will straight up beat you over the head with the fact that symbols are meant to be interpreted, including but not limited to motifs telling you this, characters saying it, and the narrator one of them, anyway outright telling (You)
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>>585768941
Shit....watching the Yamaguchi together brought a big smile to my face....soon Kaori will join them in events.....soon please soon
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>>585774179
Kaori is the gift that keeps on giving. God's gift, even. It says so right on her profile.
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We're boned.
Damn ghosts and their rubberbanding AI
Oh well, one express trip to Hell, coming right up.
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Oh you gotta be fucking-
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>>585776527
That....rabbit......its.....everywhere......holy shit is the rabbit Hope when he's outside of the happy events?
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>>585776989
Close but no.
This was just a reference to a particularly mouthy rabbit that wouldn't let me enjoy my Envirokids Organic Gorilla Munch breakfast cereal. Stop clicking spoilers, it's dangerous..
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>>585776527
my jimmies are rustled
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>>585777224
I thought you were going to say that rabbit was trying to rustle your jimmies by denying you milk with your cereal because that would make me kill a bitch
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>>585774680
This is the easiest choice to fuck up if you want to see all events.
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>>585780950
>if you want to see all events
Well I'm already screwed out of that and would rather avoid both scenarios altogether, so I went with Tsukasa because another anon said I'd be locked out already based on an earlier choice.
At least that was my surface level rationale. My other reasons were picking the lesser of two evils as well as which one I'd be more interested seeing in a precarious position.
But mostly the first.
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>>585781203
that's exactly what that anon meant. the "lesser of two evils" is actually required for the wizard route
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>>585781553
Fuck it, we ball.
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>>585768941
Before that event I was thinking that Tsukasa was a daddy's girl to contrast Touka being much closer to their mother. After I started to think that Tsukasa is just a spare that they can't wait to get out of their hair in spite of her obvious talent.
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>>585689236
You must understand her state of unmoored confusion. Noriko needs a strong man to cleave to. Once she has that, she'll submit, forget such silly ideas, and become what's best for her to be.

>>585695152
thread #36 should also be devoted to our pink sex-kitten

>>585717886
this is great, just look at those eyes.

>>585753681
This would be a prime opportunity for Niki to redeem herself through sacrifice to secure Noriko's future with Sensei
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>>585782823
>thread #36 should also be devoted to our pink sex-kitten
True, we all love Noriko here
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>>585763389
>>585765939
If you reread this much later in the game you'll be surprised how much sense it makes.
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>>585794034
>Implying 36 won't be for worst waifu
>Implying 37 won't be for ???
>Implying 38 won't be for Maya
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Thread #36 should be for picrel, obviously.
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"I said what I said", he said to no one in particular.
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>>585798215
>Implying
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>>585798272
>implications
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>>585800150
Up the Ra!
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>>585800886
My money is on relics being figures, doom being schoolwork, and Irish stuff being porn.
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>>585798272
Holy it really did go full circle
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>>585801725
I guess she has several boxes of "Irish stuff" then
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>>585800645
Built for violent sex.
The biggest plot hole in the game is Sensei being the only one willing to fucky Molly.
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>>585802519
Chapter 4 spoilers
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>>585804165
>"haha, that's a jo-"
>Her "technique" is an insidious method of providing sexual gratification through innocent gestures typically directed towards kids
Oh.
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>>585805652
Wow, rude.
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>>585803658
I know I'd plot a big hole on her, amirite fellas?
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>>585765939
https://youtube.com/watch?v=RYonSOkZ5ZE
Enjoy the ride.
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Always a good sex position.
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>>585814073
Was this not used for the last scene of Chapter 3, albeit on the ground?
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>>585815291
While I don't have a screenshot of it, someone did post one earlier and they're holding hands: >>585679486
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Dropping some spoilers there, aren't we.
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Caught this a few threads ago before I started rereading the game but this is parallel CG with something later that can be hard to notice.
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>>585817468
Picrel. Nao-chan's Ami eye is covered as well with only the Maya eye visible.
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>>585817660
Which also parallels with this.
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>>585817660
I WANT TO PET THE NYAO
>>585817883
If it wasn't for this I'd assume The gesture isn't just about ill intentions, but instead blocking out the red eye because the green one makes him feel far more at ease.
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>>585818759
Knowing Sel, pic related. His ill intentions are also what center him and makes him at ease, or so I believe.
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>>585818759
>I WANT TO PET THE NYAO
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>>585819023
If Nodoka's first dose of vomit was anything to go by, it's not "at ease" so much as "numbed". I don't know if you have any inclinations you fight against, but doing so is immensely stressful and giving in is a fucking drug. Think of it like edging nicotine withdrawals only for the big hit, only somehow even more pacifying.
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>>585819530
For real. Pic is a wizard route spoiler I guess.
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>>585819530
Oh, I see. I don't have any that damage my body, but I do know of relatives, and also the few instances I've seen of the topic discussed in police dramas.
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Realized I'm at like 550 screenshots at this point and I haven't even gotten to the first fucking beach trip yet.
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Haven't been here in awhile, new content on the first of next month right?
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>>585820790
no, we are living in hell
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>>585820128
If you're at the point where you have neither the mental damage, physical damage, addictions, or issues to understand the feeling firsthand, then get out a pen and paper, count each and every one of your blessings, and never let yourself forget them.
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>>585820790
Heaven is real, and so is hell. Actually, I wonder if you could fit the cenobites in LiL.
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Funny that you can get this spoiler on Haruka so early.
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>>585820790
he's taking a break following the death of his cat
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>>585820790
Selebus is having a rough time and handling it like a sensible person by taking a break and dealing with his issues.
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>>585821749
Nah, I do have issues, but thanfully not addictions of any kind.
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>>585821817
oh...
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>>585822081
Everyone has issues. Both seasonal allergies and Stage IV cancer are "issues", which is why it's always better to be mindful of your place and perspective. I didn't really choose to go with nicotine, but it was either buying myself an addiction for Christmas or buying myself a bullet.
Point being, the best stance to understand anything from is an aware one, whether it's how little you know or how good you still have it.
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otoha ass
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>>585800645
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>>585833250
*is
Forgot your middle word there
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>>585833250
yum
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>Steers the conversation away from his dick
Sensei is dead and has been replaced, this is my new theory
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>>585800150
as a lover of redheads and a fellow Irish i think Molly will wind up being my favorite to fuck.
ginger minge
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>>585831208
It's kind of amazing how much sexier everryone gets over time (except Fataba). Sensei is such a good influence on growing women.
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And the award for WORST PARENT OF THE YEAR goes to...
Like seriously, the implications were implied, they were understood, the causes were listed, and despite all of this, you're still enabling the endangerment of your daughter at the hands of someone who all but explicitly stated how bad of an idea that is.
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>>585831208
most powerful harem of all time?
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>>585855189
Tsubasa and "Mother of the Year" is one of my favorite jokes in LiL. She just gets increasingly deranged in utterly incomprehensible ways and it's so fucking funny to watch.
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>>585855282
She needs to stop making important family decisions under the affluence.
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NO
THIS IS THE LAST THING YOU SHOULD BE DOING
STOP ENABLIING ME
PLEASE
YOU'RE INSANE
>>585855601
Wrong general.
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>>585855906
maedabros ;_;
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At least I finally pulled off the hat-trick
Though it seems my spam of DONOT cut off unfortunately prematurely.
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>>585855734
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>>585855906
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>>585856365
the banter that inspired LiL
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>>585856365
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Oh, that's what it was.
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>>585855282
Tsubasa is unironically a good parent though
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DES-PA-CITO
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>>585860979
I was somehow spared the knowledge of the existence of this cursed song until I read this game.
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>>585861421
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rare Chika spotted; when did she change her hair? probably the mall scene i skipped because school making it impossible to do anything else.
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>>585863148
these generic dorm shots are just backer perk stuff, don't worry about it
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>>585863148
That's... not canon at the moment.
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>>585863148
The long answer is that if you're a subscriber at a certain level you can put messages on their whiteboards, and if there were multiple versions of each of these generic scenes for each time one of the girls changed their hair style (or color in her case) then it would exponentially increase the number of images that needed to be edited every time the whiteboard messages changed, so there's just one image that gets used for each girl for the time being even it doesn't fit the current spot in the game you're in. It doesn't actually mean anything in terms of the story. Also she's not the only one that's going to look different.
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>>585863552
Yes.
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>>585864095
Or maybe "exponentially increase" is exaggerating, but it would make it more of a pain in the ass to modify at least.
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>>585864216
And what do you wish to do with that perception?
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>>585864263
I want to pet the cat.
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>>585864826
they're so fucking flat jfc...
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>>585864967
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>>585864967
I genuinely lost all attraction to big boobs after playing LiL. There is just no matching the incredible eroticism of a perfectly smooth, soft loli chest.
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>>585865137
TUBE
>>585865182
based; been this way for longer than i can remember, personally.
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>>585865182
>>585865258
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>>585865182
I can't fault you for "missing the point", but I'd like you to know that people like you are the reason we have people arguing that depiction is endorsement.
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>>585865860
Good thing this is a video game and not real, huh?
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>>585865860
for all you know he behaves like a perfect gentleman in public. let's not condemn people for being honest here in the privacy of semi-anonymity. this is a loli porn game ffs.

>>585866192
this
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>>585865860
It's actually the reverse, anyone who doesn't emerge from LiL wanting to bang the shit out of lolis is missing the point. Our goat Selebus is painstakingly showing us a look into his world where teen girls are sexy and lolis are sexier. If we were not influenced by his light and began viewing the world more like him we would be missing the point. Because make no mistake, if Selebus was not endorsing it, he would never have the energy to spend 6 years and 4 million words non-stop writing about an adult man penetrating an unending congo line of sexy teens and lolis. There are about an infinite number of alternative ways to depict grooming and lolicon without also making it fucking awesome.
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>>585866192
Normally I'd say yes, but if your personal preferences were that warped by something fictitious, then I'm not really sure how much YOU understand that.
The separation of fiction and reality comes with the caveat of it being understood or enjoyed as something separated from the self (i.e. not desiring violence for engaging in fictional violence, not being traumatized for experiencing fictional stressors, or not desiring rape for engaging in fictional rape)
The second that line is blurred, so too is that defense.
>>585866327
I behave like a gentleman in public, but I'm a terrible fucking person. Besides, there's no harm in condemnation here. It's not as if I'm demanding he submit himself to the authorities or begging mods to doxx him. It's a forum, and if an statement is presented, (You), him, or I are free to engage with it in whatever retarded manner we see fit. Actually, I've grown rather tired of anons pretending that just because they posted something anonymously means they're absolved of anything other than agreement or praise. It's a stupid position and you know it.
>>585866398
Ah, but so few get the point across half as well.
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>>585867024
>I behave like a gentleman in public, but I'm a terrible fucking person.
Same. My point is it's not constructive to moralize here.
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>>585867024
bold to assume that poster had any attraction to 3d in the first place
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>>585867472
The point isn't morality and I don't give a shit if he whacks off to fictional lolis. Read the response above the one for you and see if you get the point.
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>>585867642
The game is made with 3D sprites u lil shit
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>>585867646
maybe he was just making a joke? i love lolis but i still like adult women (their bodies anyway; their personalities not so much).
4chan is like Unreliable Narration central.
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>>585867024
Well, we may disagree with what "the point" is. I think this is the kind of case where people read whatever they want into something. I've recommended LiL to quite a few lolicons and they sense on their skin that it wss a game made for them. Selebus even has an old Discord quote where he said LiL is a game for lolicons, though that is ambiguous in that you can potentially read it as a game to admonish lolicons.

For my part, I think the great Sin that LiL depicts is dishonesty and sliminess. In terms of sensei's own relationships, most of the problems have less to do with grooming and more with him being a shitty slimy liar who wants to bang anyone and for them to only love him and so on. I view LiL more as a critique of the harem genre than I do on being into lolis. This is actually something of an important watershed for me. There are two paths LiL can go down: embracing Sensei's relationship with Maya or ultimately criticizing it as something that should not exist. The former view is one where love is powerful and not bound by societal common sense, the latter view is a loveless, realistic view where Grooming Bad and love is only worthwhile if it happens in healthy circumstances. That will be where we really see what LiL was about.
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i am a teenage girl enthusiast
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ooh sweaty Miku ToT
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>>585867916
That's a good take regarding Maya. It seems like it's leaning toward embracing it, but I suppose you never know. She does have some extenuating circumstances that make it not quite the same as something like that normally happening, so I suppose if Selebus wanted some plausible deniability to go in that direction, he'd have it.
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>>585867916
I... once again think you're missing the point.
I personally view his relationship with Maya as one of the most beautiful and broken romances out there, but the point isn't whether it should or shouldn't exist. It shouldn't, for many reasons, the end. The point is about WHY and whether it fucking matters. It's not about whether Akira is in the wrong, but why he's in the wrong, and how it got to that point.
I get that a lot of what's presented can make it seem like a case of "who cares if everyone is happy", but the damning evidence against it is your incomplete understanding of what his sins are and who he is. He's not someone who *happened* to fall in love with a kid once. He's a sick individual that slips further and further because the damage within is greater than his ability to resist. He gets off on his situation, gets off on his seeming invincibility, gets off on his manipulations, gets off on taking virginities, gets off on the taboo, and gets off most importantly to the fact that they're "unripe", naive, and easy. All of which being things he has little to no control over, but are things he can and should be condemned for. He knows this, but he can't stop this. It's not a story about "taboo love" and whether it should be accepted. It's a story of a very fucked-up man and his journey to growing past his sins. At the end of it all, I think he and Maya would make a great couple, laws and taboos be damned. But it's not, under any circumstances, something that should have happened. He should never have been molested, he should never have been neglected, he should never have given in to his evil desires, he should never have said he loves a ten-year old girl, he should never have taken her home and fingered her, and he should never have kept it going. But it did, because he was broken, because he was weak. And now the question isn't whether those were sins, but whether he can accept and live with them.
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>>585869109
Where we differ is in your totalitarian perspective on the dust. Remember: things change depending on how we look at them. It's our perception. Different light makes dust appear in different ways. You are very confidently saying things definitively like "it IS wrong, the end." "Sensei IS this way." blah blah. But I don't think it's so set in stone. What I think is that what you describe are your natural inclinations and beliefs, like the ideas you had going into the work, and the ideas you are reading into the work, but not necessarily the singular way in which the work is to be interpreted and the actual motives of the work.

Personally, note the title: Lessons in Love. I think this is a game about love, and, subsequently, "Is love worth having even when it so painful?" I think too much focus on "sin" and "being broken and weak" and "never should have happened" and so on are auxiliary questions to the more central interrogation of love itself. After all, yeah, it's obvious that in some idealistic world where only happy things happen (haha) that nobody would ever get molested or end up twisted. But that's not something that can be helped. What can be helped is how they love and can be loved, and whether it's worth it even when painful.
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IMO one of the things required for Sensei to exit the loop world (beyond just the plot issue of the collection, etc.) is a process of self-actualization through a sort of self-immolation (picrel). Like in order to regain himself he has to re-embrace his past, not in the sense of an endorsement of said actions but in the sense of a re-incorporation of his past as a part of his gestalt. I think that's where the wizard routes come into play. Those act as a repetition of his actions with Maya, which is one of the primary things his brain is still blocking out, and it's a part of himself he's not willing to accept and is in denial about even while having total amnesia and minimal moral restraint; cf. the line after he beats off to Tsukasa taking a bath where he says that the charade is over. You could probably make an analogy with Io here, where the idea is presented of rebuilding her through her "destroying" her.
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>>585870136
Pulling the trigger there would probably be better for everybody
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>>585869109
>growing past his sins
not so sure that's what's going on here
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>>585869585
And what I feel you're not understanding is WHY the dust lights up the way it does. There's far more going into WHY the dust glimmers around Maya then him just being in the right place at the wrong time. It's a matter of abuse, of violation, of grief, of isolation, of depression, and of desperation. Were this story about Maya and ONLY Maya, you might have a point about what this is meant to mean. But it's not. The same reasons that cause the dust around Maya to glow so beautifully are the same that cause him to perpetuate the abusive behaviors that made him who he is. Without those, he'd never have fallen in love with her. But without those, we wouldn't have a story at all. That's why I'm telling you you're wrong. It's not about a hard-assed personal morality, but whether the game themselves depicts them as despicable and condemns them, which it does. Sensei knows this and tries his best to cope with his own actions by setting constant rules of "it's okay BECAUSE" but you should know damn well that it's nothing BUT a cope to justify actions he knows are wrong.
>>585870348
It is. That was the entire point of Chapter 3. Finding ways to fight the compulsions, understanding the depravity of his actions, and being coerced to keep to the path anyway.
I don't know why I need to say this, but SEKAI IS FUCKING WRONG GODDAMN DO I NEED TO MAKE A WHOLE ASS POST ON THIS
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>>585870678
Actually, Sensei says it himself; Sekai did nothing wrong! He's the one who's bad!
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>>585870678
The dust isn't exclusive to her, though.
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>>585870954
More dust.
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>>585869892
I feel like he doesn't need to commit to the wizard routes to accept that that's who he is and staying on the wizard route is staying in denial until it's no longer possible while declining the wizard route is his acceptance that he KNOWS what he is and refuses to put himself in situations that would further enable what he's well aware is there. Take the Tsukasa wizard route, the entire event before it is layered with hints to himself that he knows what he wants as well as camera angles designed to entice because he knows who the fuck he is. Even in the following scene with >>585863552 his response is "yes, but I can't tell you why" because he knows he wants to pet the cat.
>>585870954
I'm AWARE of this, but I'm specifically referring to the dust that led to the first instance, not the more recent ones. And that just further emphasizes the fucking point of WHY the dust shimmers. It's the same reason, not a different one.
>>585870870
You're being facetious, right?
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name one thing Sekai did wrong (besides dying)
protip: you can't
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>>585871341
literally true
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>>585870678
On a side note, did you think the game would be the interesting when you first started it? I certainly didn't.
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>>585871310
I do think it's notable that see you the dust around characters like Makoto or Futaba, since they're examples of characters he mostly clearly groomed, which isn't something that really applies to every heroine. I think you have to take the (future) existence of the purity routes into the equation as well, since every heroine, including the side ones, is supposed to get one. Of course we haven't seen one of these yet, but from the information along those lines that you get in the game there's no indication that these are supposed to be bad outcomes for the heroine, but the opposite, since the existence of said routes seems to be predicated on the heroine.
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>>585871341
Fine, fuck, remind me tomorrow when I'm not drinking.
>>585871562
I dunno, went into it with zero expectations. Just followed the pull of my puppet strings. Just saw the OP, downloaded it, and decided I'd stick with it after the game was adamant about my sticking my dick in my niece.
But, I knew I'd be here for a while, and then I'll be somewhere else. Pissing people off, developing what I'm meant to give, and pretending to be silly for my personal amusement.
>>585872114
I think the purity routes are going to be NG+ options. Where at the end of everything, he'll have a chance to reset it all, and his "reward" will be this long ass story again for the sole purpose of undoing some of the damage he's done.
That said, I don't think the dust needs to be present in imagery for the point to be made. Aside from Makoto and Futaba being the most obviously groomed, they were also two of the first that he started "working" on and the two most easily influenced and vulnerable. At that point, it should be pretty clear what Sensei is about and if someone somehow forget that, it's on the reader. But yes, It's definitely more about what leads him to these things than whether they should be seen as acceptable.
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>>585871341
Not just kidnapping Sensei and taking him to Kyoto whether he wanted to go or not.
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>>585872737
>I think the purity routes are going to be NG+ options. Where at the end of everything, he'll have a chance to reset it all, and his "reward" will be this long ass story again for the sole purpose of undoing some of the damage he's done.
You get some information that very much seems to apply to all of this later in Chapter 4 so I'll just you get to it later.
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>>585871562
nta but
>bored; scrolling /vg/ looking for THAT game, the one that will let me retreat from life forever
>see cute girl OP
>check it out. VN huh; never played one of those
>starts very cute
>that Ami scene
>ok now i'm intrigued
and here I am. Day 40 btw.
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>>585873150
Unfathomably based
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>>585873150
You've got a wild ride ahead of you and you'll be surprised where all of this goes if you stick with it. I hesitate to use this term because of how it gets ironically thrown around, but it's a much deeper game than it initially seems like it is.
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>>585873049
>I'll just you get to it later.
I'll get back to you, then.
I'm still in the depresso stage, so I imagine there's quite a bit to go.
>>585873150
I'd say stop while you're ahead, but you'd be losing out one way or another. But one path has cute girls with a penis in them and the other doesn't. Sometimes it's as simple as that.
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>>585873398
Not to sound like a pseud but I read a lot; I can tell from the writing the dev (who I assume is the only writer) is not an idiot. And given how weird the "Happy" scenes are, I am starting to think he might be some sort of genius. The line between genius and madness is so blurry.
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>>585768941
Another night another few hours this time with a pint of ice cream

So Ami's poem to Wakana....does she subconsciously know Kumon-mi is fucked by resets?.....and shit here we go again.....the mystery poet Wakana likes it guess is connected
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>>585873657
Yeah it's a game that rewards you if you have some literary sensibility and are a close reader. Personally, I'm not quite as good with visual symbolism so it gave me more trouble in that area.
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>>585874040
Have you ever had a problem in your life that you ignored for too long and looked back and realized there was a moment quite a while when that problem should have been apparent but you missed it and ignored it? This was that moment.
>>585873657
Same, but it was less a "this guy is a genius" and just knowing when someone has something to say and when someone is pulling shit out of their ass, so I figured I'd stick around and see what he had to say.
Buuuut the lines aren't that blurry if you're familiar with both. Hearing a good friend devolved into shouting at walls for stalking him is one thing, someone with far more to mean than what he's saying is quite another. The interpretation of a "mad genius" is generally determined by whether they have more to say than they mean, or more specifically, whether they ascribe nonsensical meaning to what they say.
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>>585873657
LiL has a way of finding actually literate, well-read people. Real recognizes real
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>>585875714
IDK what one would get out of this game if one weren't literate. Besides CGs of cute girls.
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>>585831208
>everyone wears short skirts
>except for one
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>>585876113
Sana has on pants
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>>585878006
Not if I have anything to say about it
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>>585874040
[Spoiler]ok.....I am starting to think after this one the happy events were NOT something mental and he's literally fucking around somewhere out of his mind or he's literally slipping up mentally between sensei's. Maya KNOWS about this shit because we saw it in the Dorm wars. So I question this. Is OUR Maya just one part of ALL the Maya's? Is there a boundless supply of them? Is she just HOPE's little flesh tool?[/spoiler]
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Sensei is a really bad guy.
but that's ok! cause nothing is real!
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>>585879176
at least he's honest with himself... most of the time
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>>585855906
Been planning on playing clannad
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>>585878743
I am on bunny watch now. Ive come to understand fucking capital letters i hate you. And that the bunnies are connected to HOPE. He's watching....fucking like rabbits....makes sense with the summer.....but who is winter? Wires that pops up everyknow an then?
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>>585880149
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>>585878743
>happy events were NOT something mental and he's literally fucking around somewhere out of his mind or he's literally slipping up mentally between sensei's
Look at your image once again. Also, notice how the bune is blindfolded.
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>>585881781
Are you saying there's actually a fight amongst HOPE and the wires guy over Sensei and thats why bunny is blindfolded? HOPE has no power and wires guy did it to Sensei in HOPEs own house of prayer to dab one on him? Holy shit wires seems chill as fuck. Also ok i guess its maybe mental as there's a sensei in the back with a little girl....and he's been secretly fucking Maya before the resets hasn't he
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>>585882307
Does the little girl look like anybody in particular?
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>>585864703
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>>585882948
the compression in this shit is so fucking bad I can almost imagine she smiled there
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>>585882948
Headpats are animated?? Haven't given any yet.
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>>585883108
Not they aren't, otherwise the game would instantly be 60% better.
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>>585883108
I'm not sure where that's from but it's not something in the game.
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>>585883041
4mb file limit is rough
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>>585883263
Webm it, or catbox it.
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>>585883219
>>585883227
Damn, I almost got excited.
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>>585882636
he's been fucking Maya when she was a kid.......i guess it make sense for the whole Noriko hate stemming from back then to keep Sensei for herself....but man wtf sensei
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>>585883557
I get confused about the anons documenting their playthrough, did you already meet the dog? Shouldn't be a stretch if so.
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>>585883557
Now go reread the last part of The Room With Clocks. The song it's playing backwards there is this by the way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgOI6xROjhs
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PERRY PLS
>>585883557
You could have known that from chapter 1
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Get fucked you little shit.
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>>585883383
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>>585884563
Was that the quality of the original, or is it still compressed?
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>>585884664
original
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>>585884793
Where did you get it from? Because from what I remember from KK, those artifacts shouldn't be there.
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>>585885102
Deleted my reply to you just now, I thought you were replying to a different post, my bad. Anyway, I'd like to know where that's from as well.
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>>585883827
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW
SENSEI
THE STRANGE redhead teacher
THE LOOKING DOWN THE well AND SEES HIMSELF
He was a victim and projecting his abuse on others
Was Maya the one that was really talking through fake Maya? Was she trying to wake him up before the angels came to stop her?
The egg was it.....the egg was his real self? Cracking it open began the process to set him free. Thats why the mystery girl showed up. She's also trying to get him to wake up
I think......I think I've had enough for tonight Selebus.......
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>>585885667
Did you already learn the word of the day?

>>585885572
Only thing I found was this.
https://stopgame.ru/blogs/topic/118079/lessons_in_love_kogda_seks_ne_glavnoe_v_18_igre
Either someone animted it or cropped it, colored over Ami, and asked the clanker to make a headpat animation.
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>>585885667
>THE STRANGE redhead teacher
You'll get a lot more detail on that.
>The egg
I think the eggs are a symbol for children (e.g. the shell representing purity), or more specifically, an egg being cracked symbolizing child molestation. Not saying you're wrong, though.
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>>585885102
in some Russian chat dedicated to the game
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A new character appears.
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>I'm here to kick ass and suck cock, and I'm all out of ass
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>>585887330
she's not kidding
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>>585886578
i guess the egg could be that when looking up that for its symbolism. I was thinking rebirth symbolism as this is the Sensei that has awakened and will hopwfully confront whatever mental issue hes having. Or maybe he'll have a free for all against the gods who knows
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Didn't notice originally that Noodles has the same name color as Tsuneyo.
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>A wild Irish appears!
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oh my, how exciting. will there be revelations? guess i'll know soon.
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Heh.
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Sasuga Wakana
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My old laptop with my save bricked does anyone just have a place where I can watch all the H scenes I really dont want to get them all again
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>>585892434
There's someone on F95 that posts up to date green route savefiles

https://f95zone .to/threads/lessons-in-love-trigger-guides-v0-61-0.275514/post-21499742
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>>585892538
Ty
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What grade will Tsukasa get in Lessons in Love?
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>>585893008
She got the best titledrop line so far, that's for sure.
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I'm starting to think there's something very wrong in Kumon-mi
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>>585893454
You'll find a bunch of this stuff really interesting much later on if you look back through your screenshots.
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Forgot about this Yakuza connection here, which links her father to do Yumi's family.
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>>585894386
I'm sure, but first I have to get there. I still haven't had sex with anyone! I played like 10 hours today. Things are really heating up though. It's exciting.
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>>585896410
>I still haven't had sex with anyone!
You'll get to soon. I can tell you how to go ahead and trigger something if you don't mind a minor spoiler.
>I played like 10 hours today.
I know that feel.
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>>585893008
Probably higher than her sister at this rate.
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One orange soda, please.
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>Molly
Get pregnant get pregnant get pregnant
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>>585898017
Also I laughed really hard when I read that scene the first time. That was like... the last thing I expected this game to randomly reference.
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>>585899094
The famous new CG
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>>585898880
I'm liking how the moms are the polar opposites of their daughters. It's cute. Only met Sara so far.
>>585897304
No need. I am patient.
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>>585899434
>Shamrock earrings
kek. i bet Molly will be every caricature of the Irish ever.
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>>585901971
Yeah, Molly's great. There were a couple of heroines that took me some time to warm up to but I ended up liking all of them. Assuming you're the anon that's not familiar with VNs, I'll point out that the number of heroines in this (35) is absurd by VN standards, especially for a character-focused game. Your average VN probably has like 3 to 6 heroines or something. When I picked it up LiL, I was concerned you'd end up with a quality vs. quantity issue due to this, but that's not the case thankfully. Though that's also one of the reasons that the game is so long.
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>>585902841
I like it. More girls is always good, especially if there's characterization for them. Though I remain fixated on the flatties. I almost feel guilty, Futaba likes sensei so much.
I am playing as advised though, spreading my time and attention as evenly as possible. Some girls like Yumi, I almost never get to interact with since I've only seen her on the weekends. The hint tracker is truly invaluable.
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We will watch their movie
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looks like i'm having another schizophrenic episode
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>>585903178
>The hint tracker is truly invaluable.
Yep, that's why everyone tries to stress the guide mod so much. Do note that warning for the Sana event (or any warning really). I guess you know you can click on that to see details on it.
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>>585903920
Yes, I'm aware. Don't refuse. Like i would refuse Sana... she's precious.
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poetry in a porn game. remarkable.
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>>585904617
It has quite a bit of poetry in it (including original poems). That's actually like a substantial thing in the game.
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this is rather beautiful.
Ayn Rand said in interview she was not afraid of death, because she thought of it as the world ending.
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>>585905095
>>585905096
woah simultaneous posts...
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>>585905096
Remember the names there.
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maximum flatness
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did the /vn/ bot get lost
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>>585905776
Kageaki's pov
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>>585906182
Damn that's hot
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>>585655023
>Q: What kind of /vn/ is this, exactly?
Should probably remove the "/vn/" for the next thread if it's triggering a bot or something.
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Noriko thread became practically a Molly thread... girl is really destined to be cucked, for a real Noriko thread we may need a Niko OP
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>>585907910
Miku spoilers do not click
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>>585909732
It's actually a ploy to pull people who use that to search.
Not sure if it worked.
>>585909970
To be fair, Molly is sexo incarnate.
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>>585910838
>It's actually a ploy to pull people who use that to search.
Might be worth keeping then. Can't really complain too much about free bumps I guess, as long as it's unobtrusive.
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>>585911305
at least we love visual novels here
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>>585909970
We can have both
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>>585912093
>Loliko
Congrats on taking away what little appeal she still had. I will pet Loliki though.
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>Dream of LiL for the fourth time
>A new record
>It's the 3rd Maya one
>Teaching history and going through the records
>Only one student stands out
>Looks like an IRL version of her and a girl I [redacted]
>The dust shines around her
>Spend the rest of the time trying to ignore it as tensions build through the school year
>Wake up to a voice message from my goth, /lit/, FRIEND expressing her concern over how the way I'm living isn't sustainable and even she can't understand how I break myself so frequently
I want to fucking die.
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>>585913902
lucky. i just dreamed about /lil/ 404ing. at least we weren't on a blue board anymore.
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>>585911493
>Her shorts weren't ripped off then and there with her being mating pressed into oblivion
Man, sensei really is gay, isn't he?
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>>585918157
Sensei gets a sick kick out of seducing girls until they are so desperate for his dick they're willing to tie him to a chair to get it. Monstrous, really
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>>585918693
Posted the wrong pic.
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ami is
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>>585920739
Unfortunately.
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>>585920845
This but the opposite
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>>585922337
Okay, random rant... For 61.1
The more I sit on it the more I think Yasu's recent line "I'm not an insect! I'm Yasu!"is one of my least favorite in the game. Feels so generic. Every time I see Yasu now I think I'M YASU and I wince a little. I feel like I sense the act of grasping at a generic/weighty line but deploying it in a context where it doesn't quite fit so the genericism ends up standing out more... at least for me.
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>>585922858
Maybe you could read it in relation to something like picrel, but her being able to legitimately feel that way about herself as a person, unlike before. Just off the top of my head.
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>>585922858
the strat here is to translate the line into japanese in your head and spice it up with moé until you've distracted yourself from your initial reservations
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>>585922858
>>585923389
I guess what I meant with my reply is that she's said something kind of like that before, but it didn't mean even remotely the same thing earlier. There's other instances of her referring to her own name, though, now that I think about it. That being said, I can't say I've thought about that line in 0.61 since I initially read it.
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Page 10...
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I wonder what would happen if this visual novel gained traction on the social network X...
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>>585932807
NEED
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>>585933561
>gained traction on the social network X
It tries a few times. Never quite manages to catch on.
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>>585933561
Selebus would be harassed by terminally online children until he jumps down the well.
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>>585933561
I'd prefer it just gained a little more traction here so we didn't have to deliberately keep the thread alive sometimes
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>>585933784
The previous thread has been at its limit for over 2 days now. I doubt we’ll end up buried.
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>>585933561
No need to wonder, I am a psychicist and can calculate the future.
>Nothing for a while
>Degenerates pick it up
>Degenerates drop it
>The few gems in the rough keep at it
>Start sharing it
>Form a miniscule colony sharing in-jokes and memes
>Some retard stumbles upon it
>Shares it with his retard buddies
>Suddenly videos and posts out the ass about "SCARIEST VN EVAR!!!" and "The Most Evil Game in Existence: A Video Essaspective On My Five Minutes in HELL"
>Normalfags pick it up
>Normalfags drop it
>A few turds in the cesspool start a moral crusade against the "Grooming Simulator"
>Nobody cares
>The colony commits mass suicide or migrates to places with less collective brain damage
>It goes back to being forgotten
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>>585933784
I can start a shill campaign when I'm caught up. But finding a way to do that without catching the attention of the retarded masses but not going so unnoticed is easier said than done. Managing poster quality requires finesse.
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>>585913902
I'm glad I'm not the only one having dreams about grooming Maya.
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>>585934307
It's already been pruned.

>>585935251
The most obvious place to post about the game is /vn/, but there is an extreme bias there against EVNs (as well as Koikatsu) to the point that you won't make much headway with it no matter what you do. Said bias is kind of deserved, I think, given what EVNs are generally like (LiL is very much an exception), but it's past the point of reason in this case.
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>>585935587
Also /vn/ is basically just a shitposting contest at this point.
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>>585935587
I actually gave it a try because of someone shilling it in /vn/ a couple months ago and it sat in my head for a month before seeing /LiL/ and jumping in. Haven't been actively posting my progress but I'm at 0.30 after about a month.
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>>585936383
Very well could have been me. If so I'm glad at least one person picked it up.
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>>585935484
I don't do so proudly.
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>>585933561
it's WAY too fucking long to ever gain mainstream traction (and that's a good thing!)
most you'd get is some normies playing up to the "breed your niece" mini-game, getting filtered, and posting on twitter about how this is an evil pedophile game.
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>>585939894
>about how this is an evil pedophile game
I mean... isn't it?
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>>585942876
Well I wouldn't exactly call it "evil"
Sensei is pretty morally objectionable on a good day but the game never shies away from calling him out on it. He just happens to get away with it most of the time
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>>585942876
This is a profound social drama about a predator.
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>>585943672
When will the government stop his sinful hand?
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>>585943672
>I wouldn't exactly call it "evil"
Out of curiosity, is there any work in fiction you would call evil? If so, why?
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>>585945264
Unfortunately a higher power is sanctioning it
>>585945840
I don't like thinking in strictly black and white terms with art since it tends to stifle it more than anything but in the court of public opinion I'd say that author's intent and presentation matter most when determining whether something is "good" or "evil." Like if Sensei was simply gallivanting along and expanding his harem without any of the deeper themes being explored at all then it would be much harder to justify this game's existence. I still wouldn't explicitly call it evil but I can see why someone would
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>>585947106
Something being evil doesn't mean it's painted the darkest swathe of black with zero shades or justification. Stealing something you don't even need for your own personal gain is evil. Stealing candy from a baby before [redacted] and then using its own [redacted] to [redacted] is VERY fucking evil. Killing someone who doesn't deserve it because your own survival was on the like is evil, but not without justification and the depths of that evil being determined by situation and reasoning.
There's plenty out there that I'd call evil, but it's far from absolutism, it just is.
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>>585945840
NTA, but rarely would I call a work evil. If you mean what I think you mean, then it would be LiL but without any exploration of themes.
As in, if this was a nukige with the same length. Imagine just that all the events are coomer events. But the dialogue remains somewhat similar. Sensei successfully grooming the students. And other related parties. And the internal monologues remain, but they are even more self-serving, with not an ounce of guilt or even an attempt of self-justification, just a "it is what it is" feel, and the narration also just congratulating (You) because it IS okay, and perfectly normal.
THAT, I think, would fall into what I believe you say evil. Still wouldn't be, imo, just some gratuitous nukige.
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>>585948149
>>585947106
or, tl;dr, sekai
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>>585947635
I get that, but I mean more in terms of creation and storytelling. A work portraying evil acts is simply a work at the end of the day. Even if people feel "moved" by it and attempt to do the same acts in real life it's still a conscious decision on their part and blaming the art for it is a cheap way to absolve themselves of their own guilt. Killing someone you don't like with a rock is evil. Making a picture where you kill that same guy with a rock is not, at least in my opinion.
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>>585948616
Then you are just talking about a cognitohazard.
A work by itself cannot be evil, just depict evil, and then you get into the question of morality relative to the time, and society, and if you get far enough, to the containers asking the question.
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>>585911493
chuuni weeb goddess
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>>585948616
There's still art I'd call evil as even if the viewer's takeaway is their responsibility, there's plenty of people who instill their work with malicious ideals they want to spread that are picked up by people who are vulnerable to it.
Relevant example: >>585948415
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>>585943742
Accurate. And it's not censored, at all. That is what would really mindbreak the average American, a people who subconsciously love censorship.
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Day 450~ of my unemployment
Day 66 in LiL
Let's. Fucking. GO.
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When was Molly added? Sensei refers to a uniform here but she is clearly in her civilian outfit. No asset yet? Bug?
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>>585953193
like halfway through chapter 1 or so the other 10 main heroines were decided on, then chapter 1 was remade and she was put in the early parts. that's the koi cafe uniform though
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>>585955535
>that's the koi cafe uniform though
you're right, it is; my visual memory is really bad.
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>>585957436
we all find something to doubt in this game. the impressive part is that the game proves us wrong
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damn...
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i wonder if today is a special day
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>>585960634
it apparently was not, surprising.
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>>585960756
The day counter is 99% internal and now something you should ever be concerned with.
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>>585959914
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>>585963156
it's important in the first half of chapter 1 at least
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>>585963220
yumi owes me sex
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>>585963328
it's been referenced at least twice in dialogue, so i was curious.
need more shower scenes.
>>585963389
fair, i'll pass it along.
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>>585963474
>need more shower scenes
We all do...
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I don't know what kind of dopey expression this is, but I love it like you wouldn't believe.
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should i be worried? 'Missing' has been... missing for like 2 weeks in-game now at least. i imagine if they're occurring out of order, then i'm missing needed affection somewhere. hint tracker isn't telling me to progress specifically though.
now that i am like damn near 20 hours into this game, i'm invested and don't want to miss shit.
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>>585964678
No. Events have three states. Green, Grey, and Red.
Green means completed, Grey means it's still open, and Red means you missed it, which will ALSO change it's name and strike it out.
So if it's still grey, that means you haven't missed it, no matter what the name suggests.
Quit putting off Rin and 'taba's events.
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While I find the actual communication between operator and Sensei amusing, I'm starting to think that selling my soul to the first operator that said "dude trust me" wasn't the smartest move. Granted, my other options were a god that DEMANDS RAPE and a fucking vegetable, but still.
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>>585965227
>spoiler
i'm not! i don't think anyway.
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>>585965558
You are. Talk to Rin.
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bit of a cliche
>>585965684
alright already. does it matter where? dorm ok?
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>>585966290
>bit of a cliche
Hold on to those words.
>Does it matter where
Events lock events. I'm just telling you to get to and past her events. Dorm hangouts just increase AFFECTION POINTS which unlocks events that unlocks more events, including Main events.
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>>585966497
>Events lock events. I'm just telling you to get to and past her events. Dorm hangouts just increase AFFECTION POINTS which unlocks events that unlocks more events, including Main events.
uh, ok. focus rin events then? i will endeavor.
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>>585965558
rin and futaba just need more attention in ch1 than the rest.
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>>585966825
she's mad at me now =(
how can i BE HAPPY when she is mad
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>>585967798
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>>585967798
Her tits are really, really nice.
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>>585968423
they were really nice. really, really nice.
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I can already feel this game was made for me.
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>>585969752
DO A FLIP
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>>585964678
If you want a more in-depth explanation on what's going on: some of the main events in Chapter 1 will occur once you hit a certain day count, and others require you to hit a certain day count as well as have seen certain character events. For the ones that you're asking about, it just means you hit the day count criteria but haven't hit the other criteria, which in this case are events from Rin and Sana. Anything that's actually missable will get a warning on the Hints page.

>>585969752
Did you get the guide mod?
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>>585971397
0 mods just pure vanilla
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>>585973816
You need to get the guide mod linked in the OP post. It doesn't change any content in the game, it just adds something kind of like a walkthrough to it (without spoiling anything) in some extra menus. You very very very much need it for this game, seriously.
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>>585973816
You do need this.
>Guide mod (get this!)
And maybe later, when you feel trapped, you can consult this.
>Puzzle guide
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>>585973816
>>585974095
gonna second this and say without the guide you might have a bad time. it's definitely helped me a lot already.
if you don't care about scenes, you don't need it, but i think VNs are all about scenes. like, that's what you collect in this game. that's why you play the game. it sure as shit isn't the thrilling gameplay of clicking my mouse skillfully.
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Otoha has officially captured my attention.
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>>585974416
Even if you don't care about scenes, it's a fucking life saver. Get it.
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pffft
At least it's mutual.
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>>585974797
>>585974983
F or F11 or Alt+Ent for fullscreen
S will deposit a screenshot in the game folder
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>>585975086
I have a meter in the top left corner I'm cropping out, hate using fullscreen because I keep things in the peripheral, AND find it easier to tab to the screenshot tool and just copy and pasting something that won't be saved.
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>>585965227
>>585965684
now the hint tracker is showing I need Rin progress. I will report to the cafe on Saturday.
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>>585975491
Yeah, the tracker is a bit weird on how it does it. If there's two of one character's events locking something out, then it won't show. But if there's only one of multiple characters locking it out, it'll show every applicable character.
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>>585975719
I think it's because those events aren't missable and he hasn't gotten to the point yet where he could view them anyway, since he has to have Rin's event Delirium available.
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>>585975719
ahhhh on Friday it updated to show I need Chika progress too. guess my saturday is all planned out then.
ahhhhhh
AHHHHHHHHHHH
this is why i am single irl. well, that and 3D anime girls > 3D real women
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I legitimately feel terrible about this.
I've been wondering what her deal is in relation to the 2nd Floor mirroring Sensei's damage, and hers, I believe, is opportunism. She sold something secret to a person she knows will abuse it for something she wants with no remorse. Otoha's actions here are fucking hot and I now want to bribe her to catch a video of the shower room for something Niki would gladly give if asked. I hate it.
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>>585976038
Well yeah, but that's in relation to a different event and I'm fairly sure it only shows Main events AFTER the day counter requirement is met, so there's that too.
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>>585976221
i'm sure this is all incredibly obvious to you in highsight, but i am still a VN noob. how did anyone play this game without the hints? ANYWAYS i forgot Saturday is the cooking competition, so now I have a bunch of cute girls in my house. will have to do both Chika and Rin on Sunday if i get the chance.
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>>585976487
the game is released just a handful of events at a time, with announcements for which characters the events are for, so in theory if you were there from day 1 it's somewhat reasonable
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>>585976104
ALTERNATIVELY
>>585976487
Lessons in Love is quite reminiscent of early VNs (which is itself a product of game design at the time) where it expects you to go around, click on everything, and figure out what changed that allows you to progress.
This, however, is nowhere near as cryptic as Chapter 2 can get. Just pretend the guide mod comes standard and leave it at that, it's a much more fluid experience because of it.
ALTERNATIIVELY
If you're a fucking masochist and get off to girls you can count the pixels on while wanting to know what the "early VN" were like, check out https://tss.asenheim.org/en/ which has a bunch of web-loaded PC-98 eroges. Free, obviously.
Favorite girl so far?
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>>585976487
LiL is complex by VN standards, so even if you'd read some before it wouldn't really help that much. In a lot VNs nowadays you just read through it for X hours then pick a girl, do her route, and start the game over to do a different one. There isn't anything like what's going on here.
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>>585977074
>In a lot VNs nowadays you just read through it for X hours then pick a girl, do her route, and start the game over to do a different one.
Of course games like that also suck in comparison.
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>>585977024
>Favorite girl so far?
REALLY REALLY HARD to pick just one man. i did start doing lewd shit with Ami, which might put her over the top. I really like Sana, her personality is my kryptonite. Chika is flat as a board. All three are pretty great.

I think this will probably be the only VN I play. it's probably going to take me the rest of the year anyway.
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>>585977397
>Chika is flat as a board
??? Chika has Cs or Ds at minimum.
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>>585977397
>i did start doing lewd shit with Ami, which might put her over the top.
You would miss out on a LOT of content if you didn't do this, by the way, not just with her but a bunch of other characters too. This applies to pretty much anyone you can reject. It'll have a cascading effect later where the consequences of rejecting them will start spreading out and locking you out of other characters' stuff because X happening depended on Y happening earlier, etc. It's not just H-scenes either.
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>>585977562
Oops. I confused her with Miku. They have similar name colors. I keep doing that.
reason number two i am single: i am terrible with names. and an idiot.
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>>585977810
if you're like me, in a month you'll know their names better than your own family's
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>>585977794
is this game super based for promoting womanizing or what?
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>>585978115
maybe, i mean i'm fucking horrible at names. i think i have face blindness. also i already don't know extended family names.
so yeah. Ami, Sana, Miku. would kidnap all three. i'm looking forward to getting Sana and Miku to the lewd stage, but I shall take the advice offered and focus on Rin/Futaba.
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>>585978237
Maybe?
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so far this cooking competition has been rice, and rice with salt. what a fucking disgrace.
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>>585978634
>i'm looking forward to getting Sana and Miku to the lewd stage
Don't hold your breath
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>>585979082
slow burn huh. well i kinda figured. Miku is innocent and Sana is... Sana.
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>>585979281
Don't worry, you'll get rewarded for the wait, especially if you doing all the events.
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>>585979281
>You aren't ready for the spaghetti
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lmao
my favorite scenes besides the lewd ones are the comedic ones like this.
for happy scenes i feel like i need to put on my thinking cap. these are just fun.
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>>585979614
>>585979645
spaghettimind
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>>585979645
Don't take off your thinking cap just because it seems like a joke scene. Anything could mean everything.
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>>585979614
>tfw I slightly misremembered the line
damn...
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the second i saw the Omurice i knew who was showing up. Seb knows his comedic beats and timing.
i'll stop blogging this whole event and just go back to playing it now.
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>>585979886
this is like the singular case in the game where i don't think that applies
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>>585980265
ANYTHING COULD MEAN EVERYTHING
YOU WILL REMEMBER THAT GIANT BANANA
IT WILL BE RELEVANT
>>585979940
You can do both.
Also who gave Molly a key to the house?
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>>585980389
i won't forget the giant banana, that's for sure.
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this is the happiest i have seen Maya.
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>>585980702
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8Kasz1-xtw
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Petitioning, once more, that Selebus leave my head or begin paying rent.
I wonder if he's been seeing my notices or whether his IRL stuff has been getting in the way.
He's gonna get blind-sided by that eviction notice...
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This bit... makes it seem like there probably is no HOPE, no Sekai, and no Perry. That his actions were... compulsions, rather than being forced, and he was just in so much denial that he "blacked out".
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OH. oh. i thought this was a Sana event.
Sorry Sana...
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>>585985364
No regrets are to be had here.
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>>585985364
Oh yeah, speaking of which, you're coming up on something. What's your Main Story prog looking like?
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>>585985494
Sensei is a cad but *I* still feel guilty. Not that it stopped me.
>>585985560
it's still here
>>585976038
>>585975491
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>>585985758
I don't know how much time you have left in your night, but I'd say a 2-3 hour sprint where you spend more time talking and less time beating off to the single hottest single mom in existence will get you there.
It's really hard to feel bad for Sana when she's hiding a bombshell mother like that. I'm fine with her not calling me daddy if it means she can call me daddy.
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>>585986021
i can do that
i just nakadashi'd Sana's mom... it was fucking awesome. and totally unexpected.
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lmao
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Oh, it really was autism.
>>585986420
The bed creaking upstairs was... probably her imagination! Yep, definitely not what she's thinking about.
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when’s the Makoto thread...
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>>585988598
we haven't even had an ayane thread yet
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>>585988687
I'm the one who usually makes the OPs and I don't really like Ayane so at this rate she will be one of the last ones unless someone cucks my OP plans at some point
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>>585988687
who cares
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>>585988759
Why are you gay
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>>585986021
it's gonna be Sunday evening soon. I'm doing the dojo event.
what am I doing in the evening? talking to Chika? Another girl? there's a lot of shit coming up. schizophrenia overload! choose for me.
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>>585989060
The Letter 'T'
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>Check that affection does rise after the message pops
>See this
>Check the first person that comes to mind
>It's exactly who I think it is
Nice.
Also kinda creepy that it just casually knows.
But nice.
>>585989060
Prioritize Happy Events for maximum brain melting.
Then hang out with Chika on Monday night, take care of her next event, then Scientific Research, then Maya's room on Wednesday
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>>585989213
>>585989371
Down the rabbit hole it is. thanks for the itinerary. i suffer from choice paralysis.
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>letter T
has sensei never seen a cross in his life? this is like the third time now...
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>>585989839
Fourth if you payed attention to the alphabet song in the room with clocks
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>>585989928
there was a lot. that scene needs repeated viewings.
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>>585990019
Shit's like a fucking elder scroll. You could learn more by reading it again and again... or you could suffer a brain aneurysm and fucking die. How much is that knowledge worth to you?
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>>585989839
not a cross. a crucifix.
again she lives.
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>>585990178
Not even Willem Dafoe was this miserable of a messiah.
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>>585990243
... Antichrist reference?
anyway. wow. that was fucking sad.
bury me in a field of sunflowers
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Surely nothing could go wrong with this.
>>585991024
No, Willem Dafoe played Jesus in The Last Temptation of Christ.
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>>585991149
did he really??? no fucking way.
i feel like such a pleb for not realizing that.
of course i don't think i've seen that movie since i was a kid... yeah. my family was weird.
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>>585885667
PERCEPTION
I knew shit was up. Sana does NOT talk like that. No random pauses. Mystery bitch fucked up. Why does she have Ayane's eyes? Why does she bring up Spanish words in her sentences? Is she Ayane's reset baby?! So many mysteries.....like why she was alone at the end sitting on a bed....and shes usually seen ourside of Kumon mi
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>Norikoblocked
I HATE THIS CUNT
I DON'T CARE
GET HER OFF THE SCREEN
>>585991292
Your family was probably quite normal at least by my standards, though if they had anything more than passive interest in religious duties, they probably weren't fans of the movie given Jesus's depiction as a more troubled, seemingly schizophrenic, and all around more HUMAN version than the testaments depict.
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>>585991494
Just be perceptive of the final line, but yeah I noticed something was off too.
I'm just curious as to how you're on day 900+ already. I was just under 800 at that point.
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>>585991560
they were baptized Catholics but not practicing and not at all devout in any sense. i still wound up going to way too many masses. they were, ah, "free thinkers" you could say.
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>>585991719
>how you're on day 900+ already
Unlocking animation outfits.......lots of sex
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>>585991560
>>585991780
i will say this game gets a shitload more mileage out of the Christian canon than say, Evangelion. and it's way more fascinating. i still think Seb is some sort of genius and will pick this game apart if I finish it.
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>>585991780
I cast the Spell of Unveilment!
BRAZILIAN BE YE KNOWN
But "free thinking" is very... loose when it comes to religion. Not in the sense that they're mutually exclusive, just that every off-shoot, cult, denomination, and acedia-drowned half-assers consider themselves "free-thinkers" because they marginally deviate from the perceived norm.
>>585991972
I respect the hustle.
>>585992064
>if
You planning on kicking the bucket anytime soon?
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>>585992121
>But "free thinking" is very... loose when it comes to religion.
well my mom thought that she could reconcile Buddhist reincarnation and Christian afterlife... and my dad was an incorrigible pervert. he would like Sensei!
>You planning on kicking the bucket anytime soon?
entirely possible.
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>>585988801
As a Maya stan I have to instinctively hate her potential greatest competition.
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>>585992279
You'd better not. Nobody is allowed to dip before I do. House rules and allat.
But yeah, I can see where the quotation marks came from. That's... an interesting interpretation and honestly, some of the more creative ideas come from trying to reconcile two grandiose and incompatible ideologies.
So, I guess by her ideas, if you were to off yourself, you'd not only come back as a dung beetle, but you'd arrive in Hell as one. That's twice the punishment for half the cost.
Still, somewhat normal by my standards, sans the video rental store.
>>585992309
You do not have to hate Ayane, just Noriko. Even if she's not a real threat.
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I'm guessing this is intentional, considering the name of the event and all. If not, I'm retarded and missed the flag
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>>585991494
THE FUCKING BUNNY IN THE BED. FUCKING HOPE. SANA DID NOT DESERVE THIS. But WTF DID SARA DEAL WITH IF SHES FREAKING OUT TOO......and why did the angel have wings......I'll trust Pareidolia going forward since his presence is the only one looking like an angel
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>>585993542
Ah, no, it's this >>585991024
Same advice goes to you. Talk to Rin more
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>>585993542
see
>>585965227
was having the same problem
btw this is my progress tracker... i've having an Ayane event and I think seggs is happening.
but i must first put the pizza in the oven.
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>>585993618
>>585993735
Thanks lads I'm trying not to read too many posts to not get spoiled. Just wanted to check to make sure it wasn't a meta joke.
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>>585995402
woah, didn't mean to post that one. gotta delete it before i get v&.
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you know, considering how fucking smutty and explicit this game is, i'm surprised we don't have this thread on /h/.
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i can't. i can't stop.
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>>585995980
/h/ is just the wrong crowd, honestly
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>>585996816
yeah, not exactly intellectuals over there.
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thanks Yumi, i've been saying this for years
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>>585995980
Nothing against /h/, if there was much more sex, even with the plot, it'd probably fit.

>>585991494
You finally remembered the word of the day.
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This time the message hidden in the background...music is quite simple. Even the text brings it up. AGAINSHELIVES
I've caught a few hints from translating the hex code Sekai was also on the grave,along with one of the hexcodes that temporarily gives the MC am i okay name. I'm not sure if it's meant to be a hint that that was her mother's name, or if it's the japanese translation- world. Implying the world is dead and buried. probably both, like the real world is gone but is resurrected

Just some speculation from an anon who's only 1/3? through chapter one. if the even list is anything to go by. I'm sure there's more hints but I don't know kanji and am too lazy to mtl the sparse moonrunes.
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>>586000147
there are translations on the wiki
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>>586004975
Instant sex
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>>586000147
You've got a while before you get solid answers, but there's no harm in taking your ideas and running with them.
Still an ominous implication, and one that's rarely used for anyone or anything that's better off staying dead.
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Spent 2 hours trying to fall asleep and when I wasn't reading an article or arguing with ChatGPT I was thinking about LiL.
I will play more. Who needs sleep? I can sleep when I'm dead!
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>>586000147
i think getting to the bottom of it will require information from the girls. the problem is they're unreliable narrators, except for perhaps Maya. they all seem to be dealing with trauma, and they might all be under the influence of... whatever is tormenting Sensei. Maya is the key to all this.
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>>586004975
That shirt...
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>>586017772
How much will these girls take from Sensei before they are satisfied?
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>>586017808
Surely someone has to look out for his well-being.
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>tfw the lyrics for Paper City on the wiki are correct (I found somewhere the song's creator posted the lyrics) and it's actually just incomprehensible
Fucking Engrish. Still my favorite song in the game.
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>>586021061
Also it sounds bad if you play it in the jukebox compared to just listening to the mp3 in the game files. Wonder why.
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>>586021061
The singing voice in the song is actually digital, and the Japanese creator mapped the lyrics to the singer by ear based on what he thought sounded best rather than actual pronunciation. Therefore, the lyrics literally are completely incomprehensible nip-mangled nonsense. Nobody can distinguish them by ear because the pronunciation and intonation are fundamentally wrong. If the artist didn't post the lyrics they would have been unknown forever.
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>>586021369
Yeah he said that in the Youtube comment I found. It certainly does sound good regardless of however he did it.
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How much will I have to pay Selebus for a DLC to remove Noriko entirely
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>>586021061
as far as i can tell the lyrics were ai generated and then he cut the words up to fit the music without caring about what that did to the meaning
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>>586021506
It's interesting you can still actually make out some (not much) of it properly.
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>>586021487
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>>586021925
Here you go, you stupid pink bitch
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>>586022082
You will remember this once Noriko's true power level is revealed.
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>>586022341
You keep saying this but she keeps digging her hole deeper and deeper everytime she opens her mouth. Eventually it's going to be too deep to ever climb out of.
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My ex who is like Io+Rin+Chika+Noriko just called out of nowhere and said she wants to move in with me. Surely this is a good idea, right?
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>>586022624
Depends, why did you break up?
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>>586022624
Chika part is a red flag
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>>586022773
Real life is not as convenient as it is for Sensei. Neither of us was good enough for each other, and maybe nobody would be.
>>586022861
Wouldn't be that bad but it has a multiplicative effect with the Io part.
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>>586022341
She went from like C or D rank to S, at least for me.
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>>586023190
>Neither of us was good enough for each other, and maybe nobody would be.
Sounds like a pansy-ass excuse to me, but if that's the outcome you've settled on, then no.
I don't want to hear shit about fucking conveniences because whatever diddy bitch told you love was supposed to be effortless was an entitled whore whose worst days would be the best for most.
Be slightly better people for each other and much better people to eacn other. Either mutually agree to put the effort in or don't fucking bother.
There's your Lessons in Love for the day.
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>>586023767
Harsh.
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>>586024869
Tsubasa = Mother of the Year, all years
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>>586023361
She dropped from F to F- in >>585991560 this scene. What a god awful person.
>>586024083
If you want to talk about real life, harsh is what you're gonna get, especially when dealing with a hare-brained commitment like "my ex called and wants to move in". If it didn't work the first time and you didn't fix what's broken, it's not going to work the second time when the relationship is even more stressed.
From the sounds of it, there's plenty of issues, but the biggest one is and always will be being too closed-off and unwilling to understand and grow with one another. Reciprocity and communication can carry any relationship, but that's something you both have to be on board with.
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>>586024869
How is Sara not best mom? The woman is cock hungry.
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>>586025308
Let's just say Tsubasa goes the extra mile
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>>586025308
You'll find out eventually.
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>>586027016
Sad to see molly and yasu low but you got most of the important ones right
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>>586027062
Uta and Yumi have the ability to move to S but aren't quite there yet. I think Molly is due for an Elation Protocol event which could bump her up. Yasu has the ability to move up now as well depending on how things go. The others seem kind of settled to me, but you never know.
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>>586027016
Link?
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>>586027687
I used this one
https://tiermaker.com/create/lessons-in-love-tier-list-2021-594850
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I really don't get the size Maya love your guys feel, maybe it is time to play from the start again
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>>586027876
Maya is FLAT and that is enough for me.
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>>586027876
My love for Maya is more conceptual than real (though to begin with "love" is something I have never felt in my life, not once). Intellectually I wish to repay her for her own devotion, and view Chapter 4 as a trial designed to make people fall in love with the rest of the class and forget about Maya due to time and distance.
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Kneel.
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>>586028591
Based
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>>586028591
I... I fucking kneel
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>>586028591
Sarah should be B and you KNOW IT
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>>586028591
I don't recall posting this am i blacking out like sensei?
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>>586028307
>though to begin with "love" is something I have never felt in my life, not once
are you me?
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>>586028591
>genuflects
Pretty good, personally I just met Chinami, idk who heterochromatic girl is, but Sana, Miku, Ami and Maya are all absolute kryptonite. my FUCKING dick.
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>>586028870
>Adult
"No"
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>>586027876
If you don't get it by the end, you probably never will.
I knew Maya was the one from her introduction. The way she looks at you, the off-taste in her lies, and her unending concern are all things you should have been able to pick up by the first reset.
But I'm also someone that masks don't work on, real or fictional. Knowing what they're wearing, what lies beneath, and measuring the depths of the discrepancy tells me far more about a person than honest ever could.
And that intrigues me.
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>>586029189
You will definitely like Tsukasa later.
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>>586029189
Tsukasa is the best girl in the game selebus better move her to the main girl screen
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>>586027793
There we go. Forgot that I skipped my post-C3 rankings because I was too busy doing my best Wakana impression.
The only real surprise to me was how much less I started to care about certain characters that got sidelined hard. Not that I started liking them less, but everything started to feel less important concerning them.
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I demand a Tsukasa thread next.
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>>586034914
There's been numerous requests but there has definitely been a lot of Tsukasa posting.
The only problem is my best Tsukasa pic would get the thread vanned.
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>>586035353
that is a really really nice picture though... hrrrngh.
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>>586035353
Do what any other general would do. Catbox it.
But also, It's Kaori's turn next.
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>>586035754
What do you mean? Catbox the image and link it in the OP for when it gets deleted?
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>>586035835
Nah, just post the link now to share with the class.
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>>586035353
This one maybe?
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>>586035353
Or maybe this due to the shirt.
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>>586033353
I don't know if Osako wants to be fuckbuddies, anon.
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>>586039104
She will if you marry Wakana
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>>586037923
>>586038630
I try to go for sexy OPs since they're proven to catch people's eye more, and I like looking at them, so that first one is great.
Tossup on Kaori or Tsukasa though. One must pray to GOD god GoD God for who shall be placed with providence.
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>>586036978
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>>586039104
It's more just my personal standing of the characters than any serious ranking. I just thought it was funny to sit Haruka in the cuck chair by herself.
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So I picked this up and after playing a bit I have to ask. Are all the sex scenes going to be fucked up schizo shit? I'm not going to get what looks like a normal sex scene later only to get jumpscared with my dick out am I? Or is this one of these games where you need to have a fetish for /x/ copypastas to get off and everyone else just reads it for the plot?
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>>586045714
The intro scene is just that. An introduction to the game as a whole. 90% of h-scenes are played straight, but the other 10 might have some weird shit going on.
If you're here only for the lewds, you're in the wrong place. Best to learn to enjoy the packaged deal as it cums.
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>>586046360
I'm not ONLY interested in the lewds but it is a large part of why I'm interested in playing this. I just want to know what I'm getting into.
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>>586045714
>>586050098
Yeah it's like 90% normal h-scenes and easy to get off to, but then there's the 10% where you get jumpscared with your dick out. No choice but to play the roulette
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>>586050098
>>586050518
Also worth noting that the 10% chance usually has heavy plot relevance so it's not like it's killing your boner without a reason and you'll generally be able to tell when it's gonna be one of them.
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God help me, I may be developing entophiliia
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Late to the party but I just want to thank the anon who made that absolute schizo 68 6F 70 65 20 74 68 72 65 61 64. I laughed really hard.
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At this rate, the number is alarmingly high and this game is more resembling koikatsu's predecessor.
>>586063698
Praise be!
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Heh.
Is this the fourth or fifth Dorm Wars event?
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>>586035353
Bros do you think we'll get a new record for hours nonstop when her event finally happens?
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>>586073987
That's the fourth
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>>586035353
It has to be a targeted offense maybe by a vnfag mod because i've made threads for other games with literally visible buttholes on the OP and the threads were archived without ever being shot down.
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>>586082110
I call bullshit. Find one of these threads that hit the archive or I'm calling you names for the rest of the week.
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>>586082484
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/569075741/
this one had both nipples and a hint of butthole
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>>586083145
I'm pretty sure /vg/ mods and jannies just actively ignore any thread they're not holed up in.
But yeah, that should have been a ban.
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>>586083427
This has come up a few times on hgg2d because they've also had their OPs deleted several times, but it seems like gacha threads have special privileges to post whatever the fuck they want
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>>586077074
I doubt Sensei could handle that since she basically makes his dick explode on contact
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>>586084094
I'm pretty sure some generals just fall into the category of "the usual suspects"
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>>586027016
I like to be strict with S and A ranks on these.
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>>586018969
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>>586094075
do you not have as much love as Sensei? he has lots of love to give.
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>>586069596
erotic pinkslut sex
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>>586095646
Unfortunately Nodoka is literally me, I only have lust to give, not love.
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>>586082110
I think they have hard rules for consistency and the rules are like "swimsuits are ok" but "underwear is not ok." And what you linked isn't underwear.
However, I feel like they'd be less forgiving for a loli.
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>>585993581
This was fucking adorable
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>>586099927
Best girl.
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>>585991494
You will know soon enough.
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>>586027016
Fully caught up now so I updated mine
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>>586099927
I hate this cunt like you wouldn't believe.
The flames of my hatred only burn hotter and at this point not even liquid nitrogen can bring it below boiling rage.
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>>586101906
Calm down Maya.
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How do you know anything is happening when you're not there
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>>586102293
oh shit, i couldn't see the text until i posted this
LAYERS
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>>586099927
I really like what this meant
Ayane stonks in my heart go up
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>>586102073
Nah, that bitch can fucking bite it.
And by it, I of course mean a bullet.
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*record scratch*
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>>586103251
Imani once again proving to be a real one
That's enough for tonight since I already cried twice so far

>>586101146
Im already beginning to kind of understand as red and yellow make ORANGE perception.....
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>>586105954
I'm pretty certain Sensei's hair is dark brown, not red. The mix would be light brown or dirty blonde
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oh boy... i might have a new contender for top 5 bestest best girl...
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>>586108574
Kirin is a sleeper hit when you get to know her.
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>>586108574
>kirin
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX
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>>586108574
This slut is so fucking hot bro, every time she shows up it's an instant erection.
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>>586108838
>>586108789
>>586108787
yeah. a SERIOUS contender.
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>>586069596
>>586004975
>>585999307
Majestic Noriko outfits! It's just astonishing how SEX she is.

She's the type of girlfriend who would send any nude, any time, on demand, plus plenty unsolicited.

Also, we need more LiL main girls in bondage.
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>>586004975
>>586035353
I doubt you could even imagine it.
The bed-breaking, world-ending SEX.
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Kaori always has such a funny way of wording things.
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>>586112232
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do we have an op image in mind for next thread
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>humming Normal Day in the shower love that cornet
>playing Sweet Vermouth in my head when doing dishes
>hearing Yumi Ska vacuuming
the earworms have me

>>586112953
someone flat
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>>586112953
I didn't actually see much Kaori posting so as it stands I'm thinking Tsukasa, probably >>586037923
Though maybe >>586035353 if I think "Swimsuit Edition" or something would have the mods show mercy
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>>586113125
I fully support that swimsuit edition. I have a feeling I'm going to die laughing at all the wizardposting.
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>>586113448
I guess I'll give it a shot and if mods are unhappy with non-gacha swimsuits I trust us to switch to a x.5 edition like we did with Maya.
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>>586114783
pet the cat
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>>586113754
I can almost picture the scene: Maya walking into the room and her stopping right in the middle of taking her first bite
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>>586115149
>That bitch is ripping the throat out of a watermelon with her bare teeth, is there no end to her cruelty
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make this the OP
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>>586115625
or this
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>>586115625
She already had her thread
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>>586115850
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>>586117290
Is that....
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>>586117290
face in pillow doggy
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I had to zoom in
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>>586117543
The 1 pixel line of happiness
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The thread is nearing its end... I'll take this opportunity to say that I'm incredibly glad I found this game. It completely exceeded all my expectations.
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>>586117968
there will be another thread
i also enjoy it but i curse myself for getting involved since now it's all i do with my waking hours
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>>586118059
The pacing is ridiculous, it's impossible to stop reading
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>>586117968
Glad you like it anon.
I try to do my due diligence keeping the thread alive and recommending the game to others since I know there's a ton of people who would love playing it if only they knew it exists.
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>>586118279
This thread is basically a gathering point for 4chan, discord, f95 and various other scattered communities, so keep up the good work
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without spoiling anything, can a veteran tell me if chapter 1 has some sort of day limit? day 100 and there's quite a few events left in the progress tracker.
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Haruka's harukas...
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>>586118732
Not at all.
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Does Haruka have a pic in THAT swimsuit?
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>>586119031
Yes. But only in loli form.
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>>586119243
Holy based
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protect these smiles
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>>586119485
So flat...
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>>586119564
beautiful buds
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I respect selebus for giving us top-quality tomboy and tsundere.
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Bit early, but if it gets deleted we can shift to pic related

>>586120078
>>586120078
>>586120078
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Congratulations to best girl Noriko for being the fastest thread in /lil/ history even if it was all just the new players bringing a lot of activity
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Makoto has some nice fucking tits
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>>586120304
Mature in many ways
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>>586120365
she's such a good girl...
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it's ami friday
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Maya > Molly > Noriko
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