>What is Morimens?A Slay the Spire inspired card battle gacha featuring elements from the Cthulhu Mythos.>Official Linkshttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3052450/Morimens/https://x.com/morimensofcl>Arc 2 Chapter 6 PVhttps://youtu.be/GZFhJdAeUwE>Ongoing Events (V2.6.1)09/21 - 10/19 ○ Character Awakening: Ogier: Oathbound09/21 - 10/19 ○ Character Event: Should Glory Fade10/05 - 11/02 ○ Rerun Awakenings: Castor/Miryam/Xu10/05 - 11/02 ○ Rerun Event: Mirrored Prisoner10/19 - 11/16 ○ Character Awakening: Vivian10/19 - 11/16 ○ Character Event: And Then There Were None11/02 - 11/30 ○ Rerun Awakenings: Pickman/Tulu/Lily11/02 - 11/30 ○ Rerun Event: Dark Side of the Canvas>V2.7: 2026/11/16 (as of initially announced, TBC)>Guides & Wikishttps://skeydb.com/databasehttps://morimens.huijiwiki.com/[Boss Compendium] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QYciqHJY3BilDcdvBiIT_dOqXOdqGX-4FBDj5rL6qyA[Mythag Compendium] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TCU7LJRzqKeuvLe97y_TfGZ-j6jq5bZX6hskAAJ2mFQ[Flares's Guide] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cC7FOebdy_J2hONmVT1QUSk6SxIRTuVoI4XADVlq5JU>Forgotten Eve>>584548273
>>585588645and then there's GLotan who has a unique animation for her dimensional image that you will rarely seeand Doresain who has the same animation for his 1 cost and evernight's revel for whatever reason...
>noo infinite scaling was a mistake>noo corrossion was a mistake>noo hp% damage was a mistakeHow does this cat imagine people playing dissolution slop without all that?
>>585597420AA and + 12 WoDs. Just the way dev truly intended to experience the game and have "fun" >but most teams don't dealShhhhhhhh. All that matters is the investment.
>>585597420I don't think he considers corrosion a mistake. They designed corrosion with the intent of it being a sort of vuln replacement but with numbers that can be tuned.Vuln can theoretically provide an indefinite amount of value for as long as you can deal damage. Meanwhile 50k corrosion for example provides 150k extra damage (which is the amount of extra damage you would get from a 300k hit on vuln) and then stops increasing your damage any further.What he considers a mistake is being able to apply high amounts of corrosion multiple times a turn (like with Saya), to the point that you've applied so much of it that you never run out. Once this happens, corrosion stops being the "limited vuln" they envisioned and becomes "vuln that increases your damage by 300% instead of 50%".
thank god light doesn't play the game, otherwise he'd make it even more unfun
>>585599171he does play it, just not on the highest difficulties
>>585598775Saya was kind of a mistake. I don't think the corrosion from Castor (not that high) or Gogier (turn limited) or Viv (PITA to apply) is that bad.
>>585608885Saya's kit is super well designed and it's a bit of a shame her 0 cost is so strong that many people completely ignore the rest of her kit, never rouse her and only play her for the corrosion spam.
>>585597420>>585598329I have 4 limited AAs (Xu, Mouchette, Birds).I used only one of them (Xu) in my 500 run this rotation because dissolution difficulty is too retarded for normal teams.
>>585612729you couldn't find a spot for an AA Castor?
>>585613175(already reset W1)Technically I could put Castor in W5, but I was trying Hameln out. Looking at other people's replays, I don't think it would be an improvement with Castor anyway. Sure, it would be a different comp, but not a better comp.
Death resist didn't proc last thread...
>>585617078It was already past bump limit
>>585598775Actually I think the real mistake is G Ogier having damage based corrosion that procs itself on repeats. Which does make sense from a design perspective, you should not make a status mechanic that rewards high damage also have its values scale with said damage. Which is even a design constraint you see in previous corrosion characters, i.e Castor not proccing his own corrosion with feathersCurrent usage of G Ogier isn't even a corrosion character because he instantly consumes all the stacks he applies.
>>585597420Unironically the goal is that its only AA and +12 wheels in max difficulty D-tide, with just insane raw stats from having everything level 90 and account level at 100.
>>585617580I don't think his kit by itself is a problem honestly, Arachne is the primary reason for his inflated damage.Remove Arachne from his team and you'll realize that he can't keep up with other meta characters like Vortice or even 24/GHelot.
>>585618170Its a mix of things but the problem is how many multipliers he can stack, even if you took away Arachne he limits design space for future damage multiplier supports. And to me the most egregious is his particular usage of corrosion, which is just a pure 300% more damage multi by itself.Every other corrosion character generally relies on something else to proc it, but since G Ogier is kind of crippled (negative draw, extremely high arith consumption), NOT being able to self proc makes him really awkward to play, but the self proc just gives him a "free" in stat budgeting 3x damage multi.
>>585618883I don't think you realize how carried he is by astral reign. Try playing him in P-Dive and you'll see what I mean.
Rather than a drawback, Gogier's negative draw should be turned into a strength bonus to represent him channeling the raw power of his inner darkness.
>>585618170The problem with gogier is that he is awkward to play in general. I used him >>585614694 in W5, and while strong, it was still awkward as fuck to play.
>>585619632I think they wanted the negative draw to be offset by the extra shield/str from exalt and the guilt stacks that you get in exchange for the lost undertow, but both of those effects feel so weak that you'd rather just not exalt at all unless absolutely necessary.
>>585619214To me his biggest issue is his rouse dependency, not so much soulforge. We'll have to see how they adjust rouse access in the next ruleset, if he can't turn 1 hamelin rouse -> t2 gogier rouse then yeah he's gonna be pretty shit to play.
>>585619821it's just bad. a character who rewards you with absolutely broken damage if you never see his exalt. whose str scaling mechanics are so impossibly clunky and awkward that people AA him and go base DMG and don't have to play around anything. gogier carry is dumb, bad, failed design. i have him OE and use him as a shitty str scaling support because that's how his kit feels rewarding to play gameplay-wise even if it's mediocre by comparison.
>>585619821Yeah it's basically a glass canon team with no long term survivability and you have to pray for good draws.Almost feels like that pre-madness GLotan/Arachne glass canon team except instead of oneshotting entire rooms, you oneshot mobs one by one. And it's a lot stronger against bosses I guess but survivability remains a concern.
>>585621096>failed designThat's a bit harsh. His design is interesting, it's just that his power is a bit skewed in one direction. People do whatever feels rewarding and if exalting at 3 undertow doesn't feel rewarding then people won't do it.
>>585598329>AA and + 12 WoDs. Just the way dev truly intended to experience the game and have "fun"Dissolution tier should be balanced as the designated whale playground. Dolphins and f2ps don't need to freak out just because they can't clear it.
I feel kinda dirty using Liz in traphase...
>>585626850They absolutely have to undo her buffs next patch. Her numbers are so high now that they make no sense.
smol news today but tomorrow will be big news
/mori/ love
Stop being cute
>>585622210Also it’s not awful to have a fat shield in your back pocket for emergencies. It takes 3 turns to ramp back up all the way but most characters aren’t ready to burst every single turn anyway.
>>585642949the worst part is they could have buffed his portrait relic to gain 2 stacks on spear instead of max5 which could have actually corrected some of the errors in his design. but instead portrait makes it incredibly punishing to exalt and also removes all the cost of not exalting.
morinight
>>585643487Yeah the portrait ironically locks you into NEVER EXHALT mode more than portraitless play would.
>>585643487It's probably balanced around his posse. Problem, of course at the moment, is that PChaos locks the equipped Posse on rouse so you can only use it a limited number of times in a fight.GOgier's exalt should probably be more useful once the update comes around, since PChaos would get a free posse every turn, so he can technically gain 2 spear stacks every turn. Maybe even four, if you gamble like hell.>>585619821Rather than being able to draw his spear on strike, it should've just given his spear retain. The fact that you can barely plan around when his card comes around is what makes ultra the most viable realm for him in the first place.With that bit of QoL you can spread out his sin stacks over multiple turns, without relying on Arachne's Rouse or Casiah's Telekinesis.Without it, putting the spear card in Ultra sort of eats up his Soulforge stacks so he's extremely reliant on which cards he plays first.
>>585642949Yeah I don't have problem using his exalt once in a while but it's true you better use his posse to get the stacks back fast.IMO he can be pretty fun actually.
>>585645951>Rather than being able to draw his spear on strike, it should've just given his spear retain.Had a bit of a brain fart here.Was referring to Gogier's E2.
>missed out on daily + weekly???
>>585655989When reset's still 30 minutes away*
Good morinight.
The weekly rewards should include 1 Gnostic Primer.
Three (3) Clems. You too could be surrounded by Clems.
W4 this time is unbelievably annoying. Holy shit.
>>585671090Is that not how D-Tide is in general?I don't play it that often though.
>>585671753I generally like dtide, it's the only mode I play for something other tham rewards, but look at this lineup.
>>585672446 (me)Mouchette would be amazing here but they just HAD to put anti-Mouchette boss as Elite 2
Balance in this game sucks...
>>585675603biva shill won't like this post
>80 pulls>still no XuAt least I got two Faint dupes, but...
>>585672446the new buffs etc are coming out during this cycle right?wasnt this boss nerfed along with all tentacles?might be why
>>585678196I think the buffs are assumed to be for 2.7
>>585645951>PChaos would get a free posse every turnthe free posse is going to use the charge system so it's every 3 turnswhich is still much much better than right now
Now that I think about it, Sanga Saya should be one of the better comp for W4 if you can get past the first fight.
>>585677723yeah it sucks when rng decides to be mean but you'll get there bwo, no worries
>>585655989guide to never miss your weekly:>don't use your pure cores as you get them but save some amount for weeks where you won't be rolling elsewhere>don't buy out the script shop immediately on monthly reset, instead stagger your purchases so that you spend 1 million scripts per week (500k will be from the weekly purple xp potions, the remainder will usually be from buying skill mats)if you do the above, you will almost always be able to finish your weekly on the first day it's up
>>585679690Oh, right. I got used to rousing two turns in a row and just assumed that was how it was going to work.On another note, Arachne's going to be upscaled again by the Realm charge mechanic, considering she has to put back another card for every card she pulls out of ultra space.She can just generate weave cards like there's no tomorrow now, while enabling other attacker's to do their thing.If only there was a good ultra dps that worked with her...
>>585672446Dios mio! *Draws a cross* Lemurians!
Covenant improvements today. (pic 1 of 2)
>>5856849202nd pic
Game is saved
>>585619214he's broken in pdive tho...
i don't want to do pdive againi don't want to do traphase againi don't want to do train again
best support for w4?
>>585686750For lower difficulty, Doresian. idk what for higher difficulty.
>>585685316Absolutely not. In the current rotation he's an enhanced awakener with an enormous x1.5 multiplier to all his stats so his usage is inflated.In the previous cycle his highest scoring team was like top 200 and there were maybe 10 teams tops that even brought him, most of them way lower than 200.
>>585688865there's like 6 awakeners that are viable in top level pdivewhat you're describing isn't at all him being "carried by arc2 rules" even without the 50% buff
>>585689404He benefits massively from keyflare rouse, his dimensional image and to an extent his soulforge. The X-cost feels really weak outside of astral reign, without even taking into account the lost STR multiplier on the 2 cost.Again, try playing him when he's not enhanced and you'll see for yourself.
>>585689917sure i never said he isn't weaker that way, but at lv90 he's so broken that he still happens to be one of the strongest awakeners in the game, there's no changing that
>>585686031Take a break anon, there's no point in getting burnt out
>>585684920>>585685035>>585685110Looks solid. Was hoping for buffs to some of the weaker sets though, like re-evolution or returnal line.
counterbros?
>>585698594still dead
>>585698594>and then, Wanda laughed
coventant buffs tomorrow!
>>585706236I hope they give us more overall Realm Mastery and better unique covenant buffs. They really need to grt more creative with them, instead of just another +X to Y stat.
Happy dtide day
>>585706236I think only returnal line is truly bad, revo is a dumb set but the six piece is obviously really good sometimesit's really the arc2 sets that are questionable because they're so narrow, wonder how they can adjust SweetSlug to be less ultra+aequor locked without making it insane.
>>585714269organic form existsalso those arc2 sets are completely meant to be locked to mixed realms, they're not bad sets at all they just don't have users
>>585714269I think Sweet slug is very very strong, especially for shielders, if you remember to utilize it. I know that I'll forget about it in runs so I didn't bother making one.
>>585714269I like photosynthesis on Castor but it's a bit annoying because I'm not always playing him in caro. And these sets lost a bit of value after bonding.
>>585714969i build one for vortice back when her exalt damage was the relevant part of her kit, now it's collecting dust
>>585714764Now that I think about it, the mixed realm covenants should see a bit more use once the new relic sets drop.
>>585713967my "dtide day" is towards the end of the second week
Morinight
I've neglected the shit out of my covenants and I should really take some time to work on them
>>585738895I've stopped trying to minmax mine, it's too annoying. Max roll death res on my dps set? I'll take it. Random support stat on my keyflare set? Good enough.
>>585741551This.Except the dps is Sanga, and instead of saying "good enough" I reroll for keyflare.
>>585741551i mean that's just correct. the gap between 5/5/5 covs and 8/8/8 covs on a DPS is like 16 crit damage and you'd have to pay thousands of pens to get there. you're getting 5% more DPS dumping unreal amounts of resources in.
>>585741551I just go for two relevant stats at 7+Rerolling with 2 locked stats is just asking to go through months worth of pens in a minute
>>585750470I mean at a certain point its better to make another good enough set and bind it
Vivian buffs doko
vivan buff where?!?!?!!!!!!!!!
Why is this game balance so bad when devs are willing to throw out buffs every few patches?
>>585764026>>5857681354/5 of the 500 scores use vivian so idk why she'd need buffs. i'd like cauldron and rouse to be playable while asleep but that's about it.
Morimorning
>>585771852wave 1 doesnt count
>>585771852It's pretty funny how Kath continues to being a W1 merchant even after dtide massive changes. Her minimum investment was just raised to AA instead of E3.
>>585784357>minimum investmentin the whale playground sureif you're just going for 450 then E3 is still good enough
bump
>>585784357Devs are absolutely terrified of making stall viable in madness level
>>585794014stalling for 100 turns is badrewinding for 100 hours is good
>>585794578but y tho
>>585794624light's favourite is gramona and you need to suffer like she does through rewinds
>>585769656>Why is this game balance so bad when devs are willing to throw out buffs every few patches?Precisely because they throw out these sorts of balance changes all willy-nilly. Like Riot, and any other live service bullshit.Mechanics change a lot, and a lot of other parts of the game were built under the assumption that those mechanics would stay the same, but they didn't. So what you end up with is a frankenstein of a clock with a revolving door of gears being hashed in and out based on whoever complained the loudest that day.Games tend to look better when they're allowed to sit out in the sun, where the players can pick around its insides for a while after the initial wave of hype and doom.Of course it's a gacha game, so that's easier said than done. If this was a one-and-done sale, balance changes wouldn't be as fast and drastic, considering that the sale's already been made.And new content could've been shipped out and packaged together in large batches of DLC that would be better tested and planned, since the deadlines wouldn't be as tight, if they even existed at all.I want to go back.
>>585796404>I want to go back.with that spacing you should
>>585795373ludonarrative kino.....
>>585796404There's no going back. The future of the game's industry will be everyone building their own games on the fly with a few prompts and companies providing stuff like server infrastructure that an individual person wouldn't be able to handle.
>Our servers serve Keepers from every region at once, so many actions feel sluggish to some of you. We plan to gradually change this so that an action first shows its result as if everything went through, and only corrects it afterwards if the server data disagrees. Most of the time this should make the interface feel noticeably faster. But this change runs very deep, so it will take longer than the other items to roll out step by step. Today is just a preview.
>>585797491the best news
I HATE EMERGENCY CONTACT ENEMIESI HATE EMERGENCY CONTACT ENEMIESI HATE EMERGENCY CONTACT ENEMIES
>>585798507not a problem for Vortice/Saya :)
>>585771852make her anger buff last until used
>>585803285I have no idea why this is not the case by default. But on other hand that means you can actually wait for good card combo to play and we can't have that.
"Wtf bros our game is dying!">2 months later"We're gonna live forever!">2 months later"Wtf bros our game is dying!">2 months later"We're gonna live forever!"Just how much Death Resistance does this stupid game even has?!
>>585803569I'm still half convinced that arc 3 isn't real
>Light has comitted to clearing Hard mode with the 4 starter awakeners to prove that BIAV plays their own gamePretty based, not gonna lie.
>>585804692All 4 starters+Gramona are in a good spot right now in Arc 2 (except maybe Lotan, but she still has a niche). Remove soulforge and they're fucked though.
>>585805814people keep saying this but is it really that hard to imagine that they'll just replace soulforge with some new passives?i know people like to doompost but i honestly doubt they'd just remove SF and leave half the roster unusable, would make no sense
>>585806148It took them half a year last time to add soulforge for everyone and it massively effected characters' playability.I have no doubt that new passives will bring some characters back from the dead, but I'm also sure that some characters will get fucked.
>>585803426>good card combolol every card is good to play in anger. it's sixty ligma and sixty temp CR for 1. permanent anger is just use a big cauldron at the start of the boss fight and vivian's cards are twice as good forever.>>585804692i mean it's impossible. wouldn't mind if lotan non-cheese dps got buffed though it's pretty cucked by design.
>>585806148Right, I assume something new will be there and partially scramble the meta and we’ll have a few weeks of rebuilding units. And we know there will still be modes with Arc 2 rules.
>>585804692madness clear where?
>>585806148he hasn't meaningfully buffed Wanda, Daffodil, Sorel, and Doresain for a year+ now despite everyone knowing they sucknot hard for me to imagine another eight limiteds joining them in the permanent toilet
>>585806148I expect them to split the SF talent into 2 parts: stats(+keyflare rouse bonus) and the unique passive effect per character. The passive can become a baseline talent while only the extra stats(+keyflare rouse bonus) remain in the soulforge talent. Then the arc 3 talent will just be stats again but instead of keyflare bonus, it can be an improvement to whatever arc 3 mechanic. This makes the most sense to me and requires the least amount of dev time.
>>585808527Doresain's buff was objectively very meaningful, just wasn't enough to make him viable. 50% overkill splash is a really strong effect.
>>585808880he's being used this dtide tho
>>585808527They're not live yet, but the changes to arc 2 counter rules will help them quite a bit. Wanda's 3-cost might actually deal meaningful damage with the right setup. Also, Doresain (and others with on-kill effects like Daff) will get kill credit when attacking things with corrosion stacks. If they want to buff other old limiteds, they'll have to do it incrementally to avoid breaking the meta again.
>>585809290yep it's caro ring, his portrait is really strong and he hard counters the z4 bossgonna be honest, I have no idea how he survives the elites though
>>585809457and lets not forget the singularity annihilation buff which makes Wanda+Arachne a legit strong duo
I never see them mention it when they’re talking about fixing awakeners but I really want Erica buffs
>>585813362Many are saying this. And by many I mean like 1.5 people who still using Erica. Not the popular pick. At least she is wife material.
>>585813362she's a keyflare enlighten unit with very good stats and weak+vuln on her exalt. but now that the 10-team meta is dead this isn't the sales pitch it once was.
>>585814069the 10 team meta has literally been back for like a month
>>585813752She’s got the best design out of the SSR welfares but gets less usage than Aigis and Aurita, it’s not fair bros
>>585814261show your 525 10 team meta
>>585815721>it’s not fair brosI mean anon already said that she is good KeyF bot. The issue that all two character who could work well with Erica's STR/Alert gains want someone who would rather overcap shields. And ofc her cards are dirt cheap but major issue they also do fuck all and there is ultra-leap problem. Also on top of really good designs. It's funny actually because Tinct another support character that doesn't get a lot of use, despite her kit being quite good is also ultra. Coincidence? Idk really. Ha-ha Ultra bad joke is no longer funny....
>>585815721I think she's pretty good with Castor but there's just better choice if I'm doing a 5 teams clear.
>>585815742Why does 525 matter? Clearing S with 10 teams is roughly equivalent to old 425 and gives the final silver rewards.
W3 was immensely fun, really enjoyed the fight. Hope we can get more fun gimmicks like that
>zero keyflare on my pontos and gdoll covs>set 4 and 5 aliemus regen mainstatwow....... old me was a retard
>>585804692he went and doned it
>>585826395Doesn't GDoll still want aliemus? Pontos keyflare doesn't matter because gaunts don't count as command cards therefore don't generate keyflare.
>>585826535>Ogier last to 90that's kind of weird because he's arguably the highest priority to 90 from the starters
>>585827289yeah but it'd be gay otherwise
>>585827074i'm still playing pontos' 2 cost a dozen times per fight, GDoll gets her ligma from her wheels and keyflare is very good on her because her 3 cost and 2 cost are so expensive.
>>585827074> Doesn't GDoll still want aliemus? Not really. You'd use two Aliemus wheels on her most of the time, so between the Aliemus recharge from the wheels and her innate stats, you'd already be at the soft cap (~25). It's much better to focus on Keyflare on her cov.
>>585826535>100% covenant for RamonaNo favoritism here at all
>>585826535Ogier, the least loved child…
>>585826535>>585827289>>585834760How dare he
DORESAIN BELIEVERS RISE UP
>>585838971Lel this is like the third or fourth time he’s confirmed Dorebuffs, he must be sick of being asked
>>585838971Going to be +50% base damage again. Still trash.
>>585838971I wonder if they'll also touch up his posse so the wording doesn't make it look like it's bugged.
>>585838971>Definitely getting buffs (mentioned by Light)DoresainWandaPollux>Probably getting buffsSorelDaffLizJenkinPandia>Maybe getting buffsCorpoKath
>>585854491isn't Jenkin pretty decent?
>>585854491Isn't it sad, Erica? ;_;
>>585854491kath and corpo are ruined characters because their AAs make them block 50% and 100% more respectively meaning their non-AA lblock will never get buffed. of all the dumb decisions in the past year this was their dumbest.
>>585860968>non-AA lblock will never get buffedThey could just buff both the non- and AA.
>>585863535Or shuffle part of the AA effect to the normal one and replace it with a new AA effect(didn't they do exactly that with doorstain?) Plenty of ways really.
Sincerely this makes me more mad than anything else in the game. why the fuck would you do this?
>>585797491Rollback for Morimens confirmed?
>>585864336"you" here being light ofc.
>>585864336first gacha?
Fortress!
Temporary Barrier!
>>585864336I don't get it
>>585860968Kath doesn't block more on AA (except from 10 levels). But she does 36% more damage with it.
>>585880997 (me)She gets 150% final damage increase at Fiamma 3 before AA. This becomes 240% after AA. So 36% increase.Easily tested by borrowing AA Kath and compare the damage before and after rouse.
Dead
Buying emergency gnosis
>>585844424Pretty sure this is also third Doresain "fix".
>>585876251he thinks the AA is too big of a buff to pilot shieldingI'm not so sure myself because I don't know how it stacks with the E2 and getting an extra 10-15% DEF per pilot doesn't seem THAT insane to me
>>585897947It's not too insane but still pretty significant (lv90 no shield gen buff). Befroe rouse with 12 tentacles.
After rouse
>>585900372>>585900418oh so it's straight up a x1.5 multiplier, that's pretty goodstill, while the increase for the individual card seems pretty large, I'm not sure how impactful it is for your overall survivability throughout a runI guess I can check some non AA Corpo runs and just halve their pilot shielding to figure out how much they would've gotten with AA
>On top of Likes, there's now a Comment feature! Only Keepers who follow each other can leave comments on each other's pages. Either side can delete a comment, and each Keeper can post 1 comment per day.we moribook now
>>585901561I'm not exactly a discard player, but her AA makes her 2 cost infinitely better.
>we can customize profile page with stickers nowcant wait for the N sticker swastika
>>585902195oh yeah definitely, the extra pilot is huge
>>585907045non-AA will play an ominous semaphore and block for 80 (and this is a high estimate). AA will play ominous semaphore and block for 240.
>>585911153understandable but naivethe game balance is always going to be measured around its hardest content, since that's what hardcore players enjoyplayers who don't really care about challenging content will thus not really care about balance either
>>585911153Makes sense, but something about the gachabrain goes into full seething mode whenever you add a "for dick measuring only" difficulty level. They can't stand the idea of SS being the standard and Dissolution an extra treat for maxed out whales.
>>585911153I think SSS was enough. Dissolution is a bit overkill and puts a lot of pressure even on skilled whales who want to prove they can top the leaderboards. SSS is still incredibly hard while allowing for more team variety.
>>585912290The existence of the last difficulty is good, it just shouldn't be part of any balance/rewards calculation, and exist specifically as a leviathan playground for them to dick measure.
>>585894283Just one more buff bro I swear just one more
wanted to use vivian on two teams this tide (Thais Pickman Doresain, Mouchette Saya Aigis). guys i think she is actually good.
>>585918661She is, she’s just hard to pilot
anyone keeping track of how many times we've gotten the 1k silver so far?
>>585924848I have four of the letters in my inbox, which is roughly what I remember.
>>585925472the mail expires in 14 days and the first time we got 1000 silver was 17 days ago so it's at least 5 times
Bump
it's fine that AAs are strongcharacters with a weak AA feel hopeless, like you'd never be able to make them good no matter what you do
awakener buff news next week!
>>585947686gLotan value, her OE here would deal at least 15% of the boss HP
>>585948339Honestly, an AA Glotan in a PCaro, after spending a some time setting up, could probably deal around 5–8M damage with OE. With her portrait, she should outright delete him in another turn. I've been watching her replays, and her exalt can deal stupid amount of damage thanks to the retard amount of damage the highest difficulty boss do.
>>585947686Fat fuck
>>585948339yeah this was an AA glotan setup with the full 3 turns of deadly duels. she hit for 15 million here.
When does the GTulu marketing start?
>>585952808> Watched the replay> 1123% DRDamn....
>>585958839sleep tight moribwo
>>585953510his preorder should start when Vivian's ends at the earliest
Wow you guys weren’t kidding about Dore vs wave 4
>>585966238as long as you manage to beat the elites then the boss is basically free
death resist
bros i ran out of pens and bought the pen bundlei'm telling myself it'll be the last time but will it???
I can no longer remember the last time I won against a Pollux team.
>>585988417The one the give you daily pen?I've been slacking off so I accumulate a lot of pens.
>>585941014Vivian's design and gameplay just hits different. I love how she looks completely unfazed while sitting calmly and reading her book and fucking sleep right in the middle of a fight
>>585988417it's pretty decent for levels too
>>585993402try playing him and you'll also learn how to play against himthings that mess with his game plan are:>mass dispel (nobleman, Tinct, Casiah)>discard (Clem, Goliath/Tulu posse)>high pressure from faster teams like Liz teams for example>positioning (tank in the second/fourth slot forces most of his sin generation to target the tank which you can then clear off with a single target dispel)
news soon!!
no news I need xussy copies
today's nyewsyou can now marry your favorite awaker
>>586016887do NOT marry the aurita
>>586016887holy SOVL
lol
>>586016887only good news so far
Who will (You) marry, /mori/?
I don't have a single awakener at Affection 20 and I heard that it's a shitty grind so idk
>>586018569 (me)Just checked.... interesting...
>>586018737helot catena is for marriage
>>586017708>>586017293>>586016887leave it to the discord creatures to already be complaining it might be pRoBleMaTic to get a ring from "underage characters" lmao
>>586018392no one at 20 yet but my highest affinity character and likely first to 20 will be the most loyal of knights, Ogier
>>586016887polygamy status??
>>586019212confirmed
more details about affinity gain changes/token acquisition changes.
>>586018569They're speeding up the affinity grind too>- Companionship: you can now spend 3 Reality Verge on the home screen to triple the Affinity earned there for 24 hours. When you don't need Reality Verge, this is a way to speed up Affinity!>- SR Wheels: the SR Wheel of Destiny obtained from an Awakener's event now has an exclusive effect, "+25% Affinity gain for that Awakener," and the bonus is doubled while that event is open.>- Shared Affinity: at the end of a stage, every Awakener gains additional Affinity equal to 50% of the total Affinity the team earned in that stage.
>>586020356>>586020315the 3 reality vergs are the best part, you can just spend those and the passive affinity is pretty nice without having to do shiti'm always overcapping them anyway
>>586020576yes this basically reads triple affinity gain for accounts that don't need verges anymorewhich is kinda weird but whatever, lol at everyone who grinded affinity before this change
>>586018392canon wife (Kath)
Is it cheating to marry someone and their Genesis?
license for mainland chyna release was granted today
>borrow a whale GOgier>cursed rabbit instead of TTBWhy are whales like this, every fight is taking twice as long now
>>586022960pick ephemeral eternity posse
>>586018392My lovely wife Leigh, of course! I haven't had the time to grind out her affinity to 20, but now I feel much more motivated to do so, even before they buff affinity gains.
>>586027376your bonded coventant bwo..
>>586022343So do all the ghouls and stuff count as spooky skellies?
>>586027614yeah that's the reason it hasn't released til nowwe'll see if their version has different art or if they just bit the bullet and released as an 18+ game there
>>586020356>you can now spend 3 Reality Verge on the home screen to triple the Affinity earned there for 24 hours.Putting Clem into the 24 hour accelerated loving machine!
>>586027376wait for the buff, it's so much faster. literally 3x affinity gain (every awakener gets their current amount plus 50% of the total)
>>586027572Oh yeah, that screencap was taken before we got bonded covenants. She has this one right now.
>>586027969based!
>>586018392Like Light, it looks like I’ll be marrying Castor first
>>586018981I mean there's reproduction frenzy...
>>586016887>put the Vow Ring on Aigis' finger>she starts producing babies like crazyLudokino...
How many madness 1F train runs do I need for Affinity 20?
>>586020783How much do you get from passively being on the home screen anyways?
>3 verges for a 24 hour home screen affinity buff>can get 3 verges per day if you have the BPClever...
>>586036958wedding rings aint cheap
>>586036454idk i read it wrong, I thought it was all gains tripledbut affinity gain in general is tripled otherwise anyways, if the wording is accurate each awakener gets 50% of the total in addition to what they're getting now which means you're in total getting 300% of what you were before
BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY
what's the correct way
>>586042218I always leave the heals for last
>>586039059But mine's already +12...
>>586042218left
>>586036358dunno but keep in mind you also need a bunch of tokens of concord which are not trivial to get
>>586048953They’re going to be handing out more from events, logins and the shops
>>586048953When they introduced this system, they gave out enough tokens to reach affinity 20 with one character, no? That's all I need if that's the case.
>>585675603its pretty good actually
just backed out of a 5hr run ama
>>586063795Which stage?
>>586063940w5mwas fun but the run was too ambitious
>>586064356I wouldn't do w5 without borrowing Gogier. He's ass to play but the stage goes by so fast with him.
>>586063795it's okay, just treat it as a learning experience
>>586067267>GOgier without chaos ringsounds a lot more rough than borrowing a whale Vortice or something
mmmorinight
>>586072989Just pick draw relics and posses
>>586072989No Gogier portrait btw.
>>586082501not saying it's impossible just... difficult
>>586082501where vivian? where vivian buff???
>>586082501AA ryker i god i kneel
>>586088134What the fuck does Ryker's AA even do?
>>586087220right here bro. you're welcome.
>>586094168not as good as arachne. shit support
So doomers got btfo'd again?
JP will save Doresain.
Bros, why is the game so hard now? I was a 425 whale but I can't even do SSS now
>>586105141dev keep increasing stat caps for awakeners and enemy stats to match. +10 levels, +10 levels again for standards, aa upgrades, bonded covenants, arc 3 talents in the future. characters just cant stay maxed in this game. endless resource dump.
>>586105141i don't have any AAs and don't find SSS too badvorticeborrowed gogierpoison24random last teampretty much all i usevortice and gogier can usually clear dissolution
>>586105141You need to choose how many clear you're going to do and redo all your team. Each SSS will need a lot more investment than old A5.I did 500 once and now I'm back to doing 450.
>>586105141The game has gotten much easier but it is balanced around emergency gnosis now.
Post your rank sister. I can only do Mickey Mouse mode as Flares often says
>>586116034i've been slacking...
>>586090287better dice rolls and an additional relic upgrade on rouse letting you have 3 upgraded relics
>>586105141old 425 is 10 runs of S now, not SSS
>>586114580post-mouchette the only challenge in old tide came from either not owning any units or being a newfriend with no soulforge levels.wave3 bosses in old tide had like 400,000 hp. hilarious that you guys had SF10 units and were flexing your 425 clears. losers.
>>586116034I'm staying 450 until the end of the year to recuperate from the cancer of last difficulty in last rotation and playing CZN and a bunch of other games.Maybe they'll inflate player power until the last difficulty is fun again.
>>586120804425 would still be a challenge for most players todayofc the challenge was having 10 semi-built teams which you were either an out of touch whale or a very long time f2p player, or somewhere in-between + decent at the gamethey didn't really start giving out SF like candy until a few patches ago with the taboo quests
News soon... probably
2 years of whaling on this shit and I still run out...
czn better news kek
myriam wheel free reset!
>>586128852Nice
>>586126109 (me)Of course the one day I decided to post this was the day with no news
czn has news kek
>>586129373the news is that tomorrow starts the balance news!
>>5861293732k silver is pretty big news if you ask me
>>586129972got agr*ppa so its fake news
>>586130123Agrippa is one of my favorite designs in the game. Creative spider motif, delicious tummy, pupula duplex (triplex?) kino.
where is the "agrippa ma cocka" anon when you need him...
>>586136692he took agrippa to dissolution d-tide and was never heard from again..
>>586127187yeah so sad for the 2 year player who ran out of reds to level6 their pandia's Defend or whatever.
>>586136692Agrippa’d too hard…
can we expect the full roster reruns during anni?
After all this time, Karen finally became the poison unit of choice...>>586140579Maybe, it's usually a shitty rerun though, with mixed banner between character and WoD
>>586140862her marvelous cuisine actually scales pretty good, the 200% increase it scales up to is a totally unique multiplier and she gets nine plays per OEand ofc you get loads of free arithmetica too, kind of sad for nymphea to get done this dirty
DR proc
>>586140862I'm more interested in why Caraboo is in poison comps. just to deal with mobs?
>>586153547caraboo is just one of the best surival units
>>586153547yes, to deal with mobs and block for 1000 and scale your hp by 1500, also prop caro is just broken and makes all your poison exalts apply 60% more poison
>>586153547Caraboo is the strongest stall character in game, ramp/shield/healing and a bunch of random utility in 1 character. Even has a strong nuke for trash clearing. If her kit was on a chaos unit I'd probably shove her into every team
>>586153754>>586154813>>586157039Not to mention poison cap scales with your max hp for some stupid reason....
>>586164417i dont think that comp is reaching the cap anyway but yeah
our daughter is incredible...
>>586164769Just raising the bar of the 3000% hp soft cap is pretty significant enough imo.
>>586166079Who the fuck gave her sugar?
>>586168704interesting. implies two weeks of dead time between vivian banner and 2.7. Possible they launch a kaleido early or something.
>>586170857last anni there was also a 2 week gap before GMurphy's banner
balance news tomorrow!!
50% DR
>>586181464I'm wondering if they'll ever give the early standard awakeners any stat buffs. Leigh is an obvious choice for that, but there's also Celeste, Nymph, Tinct, and Aurita with some of the lowest overall stats in the entire roster. I think that the most recent awakener to have stats even in the same ballpark was Saya.
>>586189417They did You just need 300 standard pulls for it
>>586189417stats other than CON don't really matterLeigh and Celeste have very strong kits already so I'm not sure they'd need the extra stats
>>586189417leigh is already being overbuffed with the scar change, please give it a rest
>>586189417Stats are assigned based on lore. Leigh is frail as paper and never getting any stat buffs.
>>586192851>frail as paperMan, her part-time job in is being the stuffing inside a punching bag at the Mythag gym.
>>586189518the bonus stats are still based on base stats thoughbeit
Traphase hours
>>586213159thanks for reminding me
Arcade doneP-dive doneTrapphase doneD-Zone doneI guess I will continue story hard mode.
>>586228861Which chapter are you on in Hard mode? I still need to finish arc 2 ch 4 Hard.
did those gnostic research posse changes go live?
>>586232378nah most changes light talked about are for 2.7
>>586232332Chapter 5 on the last boss. I need to get lucky with the relics.
Will you guys try Miresi when it is out?
>>586235375hadn't heard of it, is it genshin slop?
>>586235375Had not even heard of it, but it looks like another one body type ecchi game like nikke from a glance. Which is boring as hell, if everyone's tits are giant then no one's tits are giant. Give me some fucking variety.
>>586234817I only ever fought that boss once in my original run through that chapter, so I barely remember the mechanics, but given it's from ch 5 it was probably obnoxious. Good luck, anon!
>>586235375I might only play Silver Palace when it releases
>>586236483Thanks!
>>586236206>if everyone's tits are giant then no one's tits are giantis that how the incredibles line went
Buffs doko?
>>586244791two more weeks
did my traphase quest AND had fun!
>>586246209draft is fun because less tryharding
news!!
>>586249648And new Covenants!
>>5862496483 new covs
>>586249783>living oceanvivian buffs?!
>>586249793>>586249783so instead of weakness they gave Vivian a covenant with STR drainill take it
and doom recurring is literally tailor-made for mouch lmao
>>5862497932 arith for -16 str drain is not saving vivian
>>586249783>>586249793I know Pursuit and Corrosion, but wtf is Resonance?
>>586249783>>586249793>Resonance covenantWhy dies Xu get a covenant set all to herself?
>>586250004that's Xu's effect after playng 3 other cards
>>586249954 (Me)and arachne gets another +50% dmg amp, in case she needed more i guess
>>586250023>>586250032They're likely going to introduce more units with the effect. We already have not!Ultra with GOgier so this'll probably be the inverse lmao
>>586249998yeah i guess that part is kinda meh, castor might be able to stack some decent STR down on a burst turn tho, assuming it's not turn unique
>>586249783>>586249793Living Ocean is trash.Doom Recurring is made for Mouchette with another multiplicative base dmg buff.Moonmaking is good on the only resonance character in the game.
>>586250198 (me)im retarded, just saw it is indeed turn unique..
>>586250198>assuming it's not turn uniqueI have bad news, anon...
>>586249648more sayanga buffswe cant stop winning
Light has implied they'll start giving old posses character-specific effects. Those changes will probably be considered part of the buffs given to standards. Hopefully this won't force certain awakeners to be permanently attached to their posses like with Vortice and other recent awakeners.
>>586251215>force certain awakeners to be permanently attached to their possesthis wont be a worry if you exclusively use pChaos awakeners, trust the plan
>light:corrosion was a mistake, we regret doing it>also light:here have a set that buffs corrosion???????
>>586251794corrosion is perfectly fine as a mechanic thohe only said that saya's corrosion was a mistake since it's 0 cost and cant be applied multiple times in a row
>>586250257doom recurring is really bad. Use this AI slop mouchette dmg calculator to find out how bad: https://formulas.moriformulas.workers.dev/mouchette/
>>586251215idk if this is a meta viability thing, more like a larp thing like how liz players get to use liz posse
>>586251794you wouldn't use the corrosion set on Saya over dream, Castor doesn't want crit rate, GOgier doesn't apply fixed corrosionthis is just a Vivian set for now and whatever future corrosion character of course but I doubt they'd care about crit rate
>>586251929>1k permanent strengthI think this is skewing the results. Do Mouchette teams even generate strength aside from some relics?
>no re-evolution buffsurprising
>>586251929No dmg amp, no arachne buff, no 5 other base damage relics.
Unstained Chronicle being 24% CON at all times sounds fun. Especially with the upcoming buff to overall healing with the changes to bottomless scar.
>>586251794Corrosion is fine, Saya's 0 cost was a mistake
>>586253013I added dmg amp and base dmg and even with really favorable assumptions it's much worse than crimson pulsebeats paradox quite often though, paradox really sucks with arachne as it turns outhttps://formulas.moriformulas.workers.dev/mouchette/
>>586253098dont mind the ponytail anymore but at first it was the straw that broke the camel of overdesign's back
>>586256405I'm a big fan of the Mythag uniform in general, but what's wrong with sidetails? The only part I don't really like is the monocle.
>>586253098eh it's still only good on doll most likely, going from 15 to 25hp heals isn't that crazy
>>586258198>The only part I don't really like is the monocle.Same
>>586253098I think it's quite good now, real contender on Ryker, Arachne, Goliath/Tulu, Nautila, Vivian, and even Vortice. I just don't know how to think about it in comparison with BGS.
I avoided Ryker because I hate furries, but I'm starting to think he's really good and fun to have in team... Does he need any enlightens? Might give in and get him when there's an opportunity
>>586259991his E1 is good, but other than that most of his value is just octahedron dice which doesn't even scale with his stats it scales with your keeper level. He's totally usable at E0 even though E1 is something you'd want eventually. that's about it though his other Es are pretty skippable.
>>586259991not a fan of furries either but Ryker is a real bro
>>586255341i guess the upside is the DR stat which is universally good but for pure dmg yeah it's more of an arachne cov
>>586266916I'm an idiot, I forgot to rouse mouchette. Doom Recurring is still worse than crimson pulse even on 500 dmg amp and 100 base DMG from relics and 0 permstr, but it's only worse by 4% or so. ofc it gets smashed by april praise.
Friendly reminder to buy your Prototype Horizon and Timeloop Copy before the Sediment Exchange resets tomorrow.
>>586277002Do people not buy them immediately on the 1st of the month?
>>586279452not everyone logs in every day and sometimes people simply forget
Hey, bros, I was looking through my Morimens folder and this pic reminded how much I love Leigh. She's just fucking lovely. That is all.
>>586281404i was gonna say hope she gets some nice buffs but she'd probably enjoy getting nerfed
>>586281619Some believe that the changes to Bottomless Scar are enough buffs for her in terms of healing, and I'm inclined to agree. Her healing is already great among the cast for being one of the only sources of "heal X% of lost hp," and her strength gain is pretty incredible with her AA. But yes, her being completely neglected in the upcoming batch of buffs might just turn her on instead, so it's a bit of a tossup. But now that I'm thinking about future additions and shit, if BIVA ever implements a training/simulation system to test out teams and builds, I sincerely hope that Leigh is the designated punching bag.
>>586282196I love how simple but impactful her design is. The flowers transitioning to organs is perfect Morimens style.
>>586284085Agreed. She appears disheveled, vulnerable, and halfway in a state of undress, but then you see the heaps of flesh sloughing off of her arm and her big smile and you just know she a freak. Delve into her past a bit and you find out that she used to be the daughter of a noble family, hidden away by her parents when she was infected with a supernatural taste for human blood. She's completely thrown away any and all dignity of her former status in favor of whatever degeneracy she currently seeks. But she will still sing for (You) in the way she was taught as a socialite, because she loves (You) and wants to share more of herself with (You).Fuck I love this bitch.
Happy Halloween, /mori/. I work weekends, so I won't be doing shit tonight, but at least I can log in for the monthly resets during my shift.
>>586286972happy halloween morifren
too fast
alright, try to survive until news...
BOO!
Good morinight, I'm going to dream of morinews
morimorning
morisunday
>>586249648>chrysalis buffSanga will be eating good
jenkin? more like jenkem!
Don't forget to buy your usual stuff from monthly reset!
Wheel buffs!!
>>586347310
>>586347394
>>586347310>>586347394holy, some really really good buffs
>>586347310sangachads...
>>586347310more wheel stat inflation will save morimens thanks light
>>586347310>>586347394Standard damage characters still need an 10x damage buff to be relevant.
>>586348582do they? uvhash is already meta at +12, and this just made him even betteralso liz is looking to be actually pretty good after buffsjenkin is still doomed tho
>>586348664>jenkin is still doomed thoShe's still one of the best in the game at using strength stacks specifically because she hits so many times. And doesn't her 1-cost directly increase base damage of her cards? An extra 50% base damage on top of that on a burst turn sounds good to me. Unless I still don't know how base damage buffs work, in which case you can ignore me.
>>586349138she's great for earlier stages, i was talking about late endgamethe base dmg gains are flat and doesn't really scale fast enoughif you have a bajillion STR and arith she can do real dmg tho, it's just that you'd probably run sorel in that scenario
>>586249783Did Xu really need a buff?
>>586350663its ok on hersomething tells me gtulu will have resonance since its an ali regen cov
>>586349138Her numbers are plain bad. Low base damage and low strength scaling.
>>586352452her str scaling is pretty good but takes too much arith sadly
Bloody feast and rat wheel buffs seems interesting, maybe I'll need to go back to wheel banner.
>>586353036i never left
>>586348664>uvhash is already meta at +12not really
>>586355014he's one of the few dps who can scale into the dmg required for dissolution so imo that alone makes him meta him being way better on caro ring doesnt invalidate this just like gogi
>>586355129yes he can scale very hard but he's much much slower than something like 24, not to mention that he's actively killing youI think his posse is very likely to get a buff which could push him a bit more into relevancy
>>586355410i'd say it's somewhat similar to 24 but that comp has a lot more survival thanks to tawil and the posse spam, but people clear with him every dtide now and it's not even that expensive so he's mostly fineand honestly compared to most other dps awakeners he's chilling
>>586349138>>586349546she benefits both from str and base damage but mostly from the latter because Arachne exists and inflates the value of base damagea couple cycles ago Angbak had a Jenkin clear where he basically 1shot a madness boss with a triple cast Swarm Impact that had 17 hits each for 170k dmg per instance
>>586355734What's the whole team comp for Uvhash? Him, Tawil, and who else?>>586356104Yeah, SUltra is really good for Jenkin.
>>586355734>but people clear with him every dtide now1 person clears with him during non-caro ring, which is still impressive but he's using a +12 Thaishonestly the biggest thing holding Uvhash back imo is his reliance on scion embryos and Thais being the only awakener able to provide themand using Thais on his team would mean you can't use her with GHelot...
>>586356328the core team is Uvhash/Thais/Leigh and you can't really replace any of themlast slot is flex and can be a variety of things but the top Uvhash player seems to prefer using GRamona in that slot
>>586356480meant for >>586356239
>>586249793>Living Ocean Honestly they could have replaced Corrosion with something like STR down trigger and that would be an okay option for Pontos.
>>586356480Uvhash is very replaceable in that team.
>>586357032not with that crit rate stat on the 3 piece
>>586357906Hmmm. Swap it to crit damage instead?
>>586358035sure, though the buffed organic form might actually be pretty good on him and potentially better than dream of medicine
