Therodos my beloved editionDominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 3400 units, 1100 spells and 400 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them. It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.Basically, it's an autist's wet dream of a war game.>Our pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/ENJpuvqz ( Pastebin updated but then I got instantly banned from pastebin for having the term 'drawfaggotry' in the paste. Anyone want to self host a pastebin alt? )https://pastebin.com/wjbSA98Y ( Dom5 Pastebin )>Steamgrouphttps://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya>Multiplayer/game hosting>Hinaserverhttps://hinaserver.nethttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/548312356/#548526452>Blitzserverhttps://beta.blitzserver.net/games>Illwinter's official serverIn game: Network > Enter Game Lobby>Documentationhttps://illwinter.com/dom6/docs.html>Tools>Mod inspectorhttps://larzm42.github.io/dom6inspector/>Wikihttps://illwiki.com/>Pretender calculatorhttps://zollqir.github.io/pretenders-dom6/>Debug modhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3083231618>Communion fatigue calculator (still dom5)https://instacalc.com/53495>How do I change the fonts?Replace guifont.ttf, guifont_fancy.ttf and guifont_texty.ttf in the game's data folder (...\steamapps\common\Dominions6\data)>Sloop's Comfy Balance Mod (SCBM v1.13)https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zeDyK8Zb_p4lIJ0yp3a3ikMprRkmBCWvy31_4jBen3Q/edit?usp=sharing>Fan arthttps://thronebooru.booru.org>Other asynchronous strategy gamesSolium InfernumPrevious Pantokrator:>>583363167
Last call for 2hu game. We will be starting Oct 23 at noon UTC, if you're going to play submit ASAPhttps://hinaserver.net/game/137https://hinaserver.net/game/137https://hinaserver.net/game/137>>585267854>pastebinUse rentry so you can use markdown instead
>>585268556https://rentry.co/vg-domgWelp look at that. If someone other than me makes the next OP can use this if you want. I mostly just cleaned up the dom5 links, the PBEM sections and added how to use Envoy/Hina since that confused me a lot when I started.
Anyway to combat the tidal wave of EA games that have been created in the last few weeks.Here's a LA game.https://hinaserver.net/game/142National - The R'lyehs' helmetless Atlantian Slave Guardian Slave Shieldbearer, Bone Trident Stone Spear, Shell Armor Sharkskin Cuirass, gains Turtle Shell Shield, can be recruited in coastal forts - LA R'lyeh's forts protect a portion of the population from popkill, more in cap. 5.5-6k out of cap, 10k-11k in cap. - Jotun Wolves gain Stealthy 40, like Son of Fenrer, other wolves and Skratti's Jotun Wolf form - Vaettiheim's Vaetti Hag 100% WSNDGB 100% WSDN 100% WDGB, 60g 100g, become fort recruitableSome changes to LA nations in the last sloops update if anyone wants to try it out. Me however? I'm going based Erytheia
>>585269895Also I'll be using https://github.com/DrThyme/ThymeWorld for the map gen.
>>585269895No idea what I want to run, but I'll consider it. My first mp game was LA Marignon, and no I did not know what I was doing. Now I do, so I might try it again.
>>585275247Well that evil freak Ulm joined so go something early to defend.
we did it, reddit
why are all LA nations evil blood users now?
>>585278489They ran out of any other good options for magic than blood and death.
>>585269895Why do people like Boomer Age?
>TURN 36 OF THE ARENATienchi retreated and Feminie took over. But there was a tiny bit of PD, so it counts as a battle.Point for Feminie, +0,25 for killing three guys
>Gods_of_EAgypt still goingAs someone who died early: what's going on in there?
>TURN 37 OF THE ARENAA random horror attacked the arena, but as said above, we're counting all arena battles.Managed to be surprisingly dangerous. It quickly killed a bunch of lady knights with stellar fires and then spent some rounds spamming evocations while surrounded by horses, until one of the fire kings managed to get to it.Point for Feminie, +0,25 for
>>585282742MY FUCKING ADEPT EVERY TIME
Arenamin, the rules say that you can't attack, siege, or conquer other player island provinces, but what if they were simply to fall under my control after a wish is spoken?
>>585283490Can you wish for points?
>>585283894I'm considering what ridiculous things I might wish for, just for a laugh. A doom horror maybe.
>>585281661I once won a game spamming greater horrors to defend my throne rush Warlock niggas go hard
>>585283490>the rules say that you can't attack, siege, or conquer other player island provincesWould you attack them? No, as attacking means using force. Would you siege them? No, obviously. Would you conquer them? No, see attacking. Looks all clear to me.
>>585282813Fucking rekt>>585283490That is indeed a corner case that slips past the rules, and is therefore allowed.Keep in mind that it only works if there's no units and pretty much no PD in a province, though. I'll be surprised if you actually manage to steal a single province from another player that way.It'd be a nice way to gain some extra land in neutral islands, if you think the gold income is worth the 100 pearls.Also notice that the rules specify: no attacking, sieging, conquering "other islands". Not "other player's provinces". So if you do manage to steal some provinces with a wish you can defend them as much as you want, but if the other guy manages to retake them, then you won't be able to recapture with troops. Even trying to break a siege would be a form of attacking, since it triggers a standard battle with a standard battle message, which is how we originally defined what counts as an attack.>>585284606Yeah, pretty much.We already walked this ground and it's implied by other wording in the rules, but I guess I should type it openly for clarity:Attack = a fight that prints a battle report in the turn's messages (so your scout being found and attacked doesn't count, since the province owner's battle report clearly says "we found a hidden enemy and attacked")Conquer = capture a province as a result of an attackSiege = putting a fort under siege, I don't fucking know how we could twist this one
>>585285227If I break the rules but swing a Caelian over my head afterwards, will you ban Caelum instead of me?
>>585268556>A nation with sneaky heavy infantry and good flyers, along with a SC chassis that can be outfitted with weapons, along with great magic.>A freespawn nation with Sacred freespawn and strong troops.>A nation that spreads cancer Dominion and has a recruit anywhere commander that can thug right out of the box. >Shinuyama with a wider roster and teleport shenanigans>Sneaky bunnies that all have luck abilities like fate-weaving and their big mage autocasts darkness on top of being immortal. >Sacred vampires that all come with great protection, life drain and reforming flesh.>A nation that has access to every magic path in the game and can troops that deal ranged magic damage and come with free chaff.It's going to be fun! Join up now!
>>585286750I have no idea what I'm doing but since I have a CD release of Help me, ERINNNNN I felt obligated to do it. I'm sure it'll work out.
>>585267854Thank you op for turning the wheel
>>585287048Out of all the nations I tried for this mod, Eientei is my favorite. Bunnies are surprisingly scary in melee and even with all the 2 path mages you get are pretty nice.
>>585282604Everyone's gone apeshit and it's a full free-for-all I think>Marverni attacking Machaka>Abysia attacking Machaka>Yomi attacking Machaka, Rus, Abysia, and probably Marverni too I think>AI Rlyeh, TienChi, and Muspel doing random annoyance attacks where they canPigs, ants, and onis everywhere
Twiceborn
das a big problem
>>585299849thank fuck I'm on the other side of the mapHow's research looking?
>>585300372don't have it but in every tab I do have spies that can see decently they have a similarly sized lead
>>585299849It's all Chaff I'm buying the cheap 5-10g indies (begotten and crossbow chuds) don't worry about it big dawg
>>585303164>double income, province count, army size, etc.>don't worry about it
Dust to dust
Ayy I'm expandin here
>>585289295Is this the new or old 2hu mod
>>585303164crossbow chuds are a big deal lol. 100 crossbows can nuke a lot of things.
>misfortune 5Surely this will finally kill my capital in the LA_Arena game
>>585319547The new one.
>>585268556Gimme like 2 hours and I will join as the 8th.:3
goats
I'm sorry Yomi... I kinda didn't think about a late game plan for this nation.... I am too scared to leave my forts with all of the SCs Matchaka has (SCs I can kill fine with soul slay) one wind of death cast will wipe out my entire mage core before I can do anything and I wasted all of my astral mind hunting vampires.My god sucks I've realised.
>>585337905>I kinda didn't think about a late game plan for this nation....You're in good company then, my thinking stopped at "wow banefire dragon cool" long ago during pretender creation.Defend your thrones of course but other than that losses don't matter, you lose everything anyway when ascension is achieved.
Nations for this feel?
>>585344651ea arcoscephale for the bronze heavy armor. ea therodos for whatever the fuck allat green crap is supposed to be
The touhou game has begun! Good luck everyone.I tried to give everyone access to terrains that their nation can make good use of, but if I accidentally gave you garbage I can gen another map pretty easily
>tfw everyone wants to be a comedian instead of giving their pretender/prophet cool chuuni names..
>>585350904Everyone is past their edgy uchiha phase
>>585350904That's the appeal
>>5853496872huminati reaches even here...
Niggas really be trying to do magic/stealth phase cut off retreat cheese in the elden ring mode....... cmon.......... I expect that of discorders not domgers
>>585353120im not
>>585358391how do i play more like a /domg/er and less like a discord groomer, anon?
>>585363569Go ai after an overwhelming lead
anons, what custom fonts do you use in-game? i want to switch it up.
>>585370129Fraktur is mandatory for the full ulmish experience
Someone sell me on why LA is fun and worth playing as someone who likes magic
>>585376680Excessive amounts of virgin sacrifice.
Play EA.
I do, but I want to play all ages
bro how
>>585384990Mages are dead. This caused the Vine Orges to dissolve which must have triggered a HP rout.
>>585386038oh so he assassinated the commanders?
>>585384990>>585386770Please delete this I don't want more people to find out about assassin expansion
>>585387549Yeah because there's so many assassin nations.
>TURN 38 OF THE ARENAFeminie abandoned the arena, and a mind slime horror got rid of the few stragglers, leaving the arena completely empty.Lemuria and C'tis both arrived next and apparently went all in at once.Unfortunately for Lemuria, it went exactly as expected in a battle of undead vs THE necromancer priest nation.Point for C'tis, +0,25 for the victory
>>585393803What's the bless on those tomb wyrms?
>>585363569Give me all your gems
>>585393803>Unfortunately for LemuriaThat seems to be the tagline for Lemuria as a whole this game.
>>585395745
>>585397962So realistically what's the smart move against this? By smart I mean not >unga bring EVEN MORE sacreds with EVEN BIGGER bless!Because BV makes it a pain in the ass, all the things I can think about would get the mages killed by BV before really denting the mass.
>>585398510I wish I could tell you. Unfortunately, there's around 900 sacreds in there.
>>585398510Just kill all the commanders with undead leadership in the first few rounds of combat, bro.
>>585393803THIS NACTION IS MEGA ASS
>>585398510Only effective play against that 800 wyrm stack is full +5 pen Undead Mastery, I'm afraid.
>>585398510Usually it would be something like wind of death but those things are already dead. Still might be worth to kill the mages. Anything that fucks with them that does not proc BV. I think agartha's god is a simulacrum so it can just earthquake without giving a shit too
>>585386038>>585386770The mindless vine ogres disintegrating from a lack of magic leaders didn't change anything here (happens with undead too), an army with no coms with rout on its own. Assassin expansion is killing all the coms and then attacking with a scout (or any cheap com) to take the prov.
>>585402585Yeah, I recognized that after I posted.
Imagine how many turns we'd have if the admin just AI'd asspoodle when he started doing this shit.
>>585408497Just forcehosting when he's the last one would have worked too
>>585408497I literally would've missed like three turns or more if you did thatThe game was already ruined for me by the bug but if you don't let me not have it creep forward four hours daily then I'll just miss turns because I have a job.The game's already ruined and I'm just gigagambling though so does it really matter? May as well just straight up delete it since my neighbors are getting fucked or free territory because I have no reason to play normally.
>>585410070>The game was already ruined for me by the bugIt's not a bug, it's a province type and it says on the description what it does, and even if it didn't you losing 3 turns on it is your own fault. How many times don't people get fucked over ten times worse by indie spawns, random events, or just shit cap locations? If everyone behaved like you over a minor setback in Dominions it'd be unplayable in multiplayer.> if you don't let me not have it creep forward four hours daily then I'll just miss turns because I have a job.At this stage it takes as long if not longer to start the game, connect to the server, and enter the password than to do the turn (and probably took 3x as long 5 turns ago when you were already doing this). How does a 24h cycle shifting earlier change if you have time to do the turn?Doesn't matter anyway, you consistently set yourself to unfinished, meaning you have always had the time to connect to the game, which at this stage also means time to do your turn. You're just lucky the admin is lenient because I'd have forcehosted you since turn 11 already.
>>585410070>I'll just miss turns because I have a job.bro your turn is unfinished and you're here arguing, you could have done that turn twice over in the time you wrote this reply...
>>585398510This is why everyone agrees to bumrush ctis before he shows up with this bullshit, if, no one, did, this, then, a,i, g,g
>>585398510>>585411783There's like 15 of you with direct access to the arena, even without finding a clever solution or just a bigger club than mine there is no way I'll be able to replenish faster than you can attrition me. Sadly.
>>585412103Yes, but who is willing to sacrifice their forces to try and take you down?
>>585412167Yeah the guy going first only loses, so the best move is to simply not go. Let someone else take the brunt of the impact.
>>585412491Devious. I shall bide my time and build up my forces while some fool breaks his armies upon yours.
>>585412491Can't I just stack one of my fire kings with MR and fire storm it all? Or do they have like big big fire resist. 800x checks of BV.
>>585411294It literally doesn't the admin even admitted it was bugged retardIt's also not a minor setback, you're clearly very newMy turns are also well over twenty minutes already, so the rest is just not trueIf I didn't set unfinished then I wouldn't have the time are you fucking retarded? Unfinished with an hour left or four hours left is not comparable; one's a missed turn if the other didn't happen.
>>585412747They have 10 Fire Resistance from bless.
>>585413897waaa waaaa waaaaa i had one problem playing the best nation in ma now i gotta cry and set my turns unfinished over and over cause im having a whiny baby shitfit :(
I'm playing a MA game as Na'ba and currently am on the downhill of getting assraped to death by C'tis who has ethereal holy troops and pretty much twice the amount of research I have. Highest magic research is i conjuration, evocation and thaumaturgy at level 4 and I just lost my capital. Keep in mind I also told my allies Shinuyama and Nidavangr to eat my remaining territories before C'tis did. How much of an inconvenience can I pose to those faggot fucking lizards before I die?
>>585416236He has a job please understand
This mod is insane in a good way. Dominions vanilla should be this whacky with all the unique indies that completely change the game.I have scroll slingers that are basically crossbows on crack, massive vine mechs with 80hp that are only 80-100g to recruit including one as a commander with juiced stats. It's too fun
EA Arco how do you win with this naction (ASKING FOR A FRIEND)
>>585423642Fog Warriors
>>585408497>>585411294>>585416236surely this and the admin telling him to kill himself will get him to cooperatetruly, antagonizing the guy who's causing the problem instead of asking nicely was always the right play
>>585428723Well he probably should
>>585428723yessss ask nicely be obsequious when the guy is holding the game hostage every turn <3 peace and love <3
ahhh is that a slight inefficiency for my cancer nation to deal with im going insane help me admin!!!!!!
>>585289295Im in as the mountain kappa/tengu alliance. All my rifle infantry is stealthy, I got big dick nature, earth and air. Decent glamour and cap only Death 4s on a giant chassis. My tengu come in sacred, berserker and gunkata variants. I have a sacred mech I can stick custom weapons on with my incredibly efficient smiths. Despite all these boons, I will likely still lose really quickly. And that’s Touhou. If you are familiar with the mod, you would notice that no one went Luna. That is because it puts such a massive target on your back you are likely to get coalitioned immediately.
Burden of Time
>>585340215Banefire dracolich IS good though. It breaks you into death fire through its sacred mages. I do agree Yomi doesn’t really need old and fragile human mages and that one of its best Divinitus picks is the Judge of the Underworld
>>585416674If only it wasn’t that buggy. I even reported all the bugs I’ve found until now and the author did fix them but the updated version cannot be downloaded. But yeah, this guy knows how to make fun mods, you should check out his other works
Wish
Gnight domg
>>585443383When the stealthy alligator riders come out the shit gets real
>>585443017It is, also because it's an insane expander (and immortal with instant reincarnation on top of that), though I don't think Yomi really needs more fire and death. The banefire children are a bit of a disappointment though, they're killy but they get attritioned down very quickly. Oh and the whole>pretender teaches 1 path to a mage if he's in the same province, 50% chance at bestis quite useless, a pretender like the dracolich will almost always have better things to do than sit in cap researching hoping to get some D2 scrub to D3.>Judge of the UnderworldThat would definitely have been the best pick, but the dracolich was just cooler so I had to go with it. Having a good bless with the judge now that I'm fielding thousands of onis would be very welcome. Though if I had done some think, I would also have attacked Marverni (who is busy with Machaka), Rus (who is tiny), and Abysia (even smaller) now to rush their thrones and try to win, but here we are. Onis are not good at thinking.
>>585370283i fuck with it
>>585423642Never take a fair fight.Get a few engineers to hold up your walls while his doomstack sits on your fort thinking he's winningRaid everything with your flying horses, then collapse them all on his empty forts to crack them in a single turnSeduce/mind hunt his leadershipOnce his main stack is weakened, put it out of its misery
*bones rattling in the distance*
Shouldn't we be playing divegrass friendlies today against /civ4xg/, manager?
>>585477129Hopefully
Konosuba nactions mod when?
>>585477129Around 18:20 UTC, t. /civ4xg/ manager.
>>585486583Alright, I will have to use a neutral flair, since I post in both...
>>585267854I wanna try this game. Which one is the best one?
>>585487072Go with 6 for free from here (account needed last time I checked):https://cs.rin.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=134416&p=3012207#p3012207Decide if you like it enough from your singleplayer experiences before you legit buy it.Try Middle Age Ulm, it's one of the most straightforward nations.
>>585487072The latest one, 6. Each game in this series is iterative, reworking some systems of the previous entire and adding in new content. Some of the new nations and changes have been really good.
>>585488792>Middle Age Ulm?>>585488824>Each game in this series is iterative, reworking some systems of the previous entire and adding in new contentoh so kinda like far cry, ok
oh, that's what he meantso is this like antiquity > middle age > renaissance ?
oh fuckand it's not ordered by name, so no easy to find "ulm" in that shit, gotta take the long road
>>585494305>renaissance ?I wouldn't go so far, at least not for many many factions.
Are you fucking kidding me?I'm going to assume this is some old-school game where you only realize afterward that you just picked the most important option in the game totally at random.Also these guys look like dwarfs, but without the magic resistance.>>585494950Shame, I really liked Thief and I remember a game taking place during Napoleonic wars and having wizards fighting. And I mean stuff like animating churchs to fight and what else.
>>585488792>MA Ulm>most straightforwardConstruction is more of a headache for a new player than any other magic school. I'd recommend Pangaea/Abysia/Agartha (any age)
>>585494305Late Ages are late medieval to early renaissance with archers/crossbowmen acting as arquebusiers/musketeers. Marignon is colonial-era Spain with devil worshippers, Bogarus is Novgorod/Muscovy with a self-mutilating cult, Ulm is the HRE with vampires, gypsies, and illuminati, Man is green England, and so on.
>>585477129It's about to happen.
>>585496808rooting for both teamsbut maybe manager should link the stream
>>585496708I, huh... not going to fuck up with options. I lowered something which I thought would make the game shorter, and it did. Only had time to capture one province as Gamall, the Hag Queen, before the world collapsed.
>>585497618Easiest is to ignore blesses. Simply pick high order/production/growth scales and a point or two of luck, and simply focus on spamming stuff for the first game.Leave shit default. Singleplayer is barely playable anyway as soon as you know the game minimally, so no need to adjust much
>>585498941So I should got for the lads on the right? The dudes in full black armor with a halberd?
>>585499673>shouldn't*
Spiderfag is now in /domg/? Have fun with the game.
Glorious victory
>>585500153Did I miss some 4chin lore?
>>585501484Spiderfag (the guy who's been posting in the past hour or so asking for help) is a longtime and prolific poster in /civ4xg/ and /indie/.
>>585501716Oh so he's a shitposter. Can you keep him?
>>585501716Someone fucking walk him through playing Machaka then so he can live up to his name
>>585500153>>585501716>>585501859You got the wrong person, I've been playing Dominions and Conquest of Elysium for a while.I even got the Floor map thingy.
>>585501859True.>>585501817He's ok, tends to just post game screenshots he plays.>>585502035Wait... so it's somebody else?
>>585499673They're pretty strong and ideally you'd want some blessing to help buff them up even harder, but this game is best learnt by attacking one thing after another. Check troops, interface, and generally shoveling stuff around and controls for an hour or two. Don't even bother finishing the game.Research Alteration for buffs and Evocation for attacks. Your earth mages will be able to cast some nice stuff. Send a couple mages out to search for magic sites.Do some shit at random. Don't even bother to finish the game, just go as far as it is interesting and quit.Then start another one with the same nation but put a bit of thought into what you're doing during pretender creation. What pretender you pick, what scales and blessing. Don't go crazy, just a bit.Best way to check the options: set all magic paths to 9. Then you'll see in the "add bless" screen every option available. Pick whatever sounds kinda fitting to your troops.This time also research some Construction and check out some magic items.Again, just play as long as it's interesting and quit.Next thing, practice the first 12 turns until you can capture at least 12 provinces (15 would also be easily doable and some nations can easily hit 20, but 12 is the minimum) AND have at least one fort already under construction by turn 12.At this point you're ready for multiplayer games. Come join some. Singleplayer is good for testing stuff, but the AI doesn't know how to play beyond shoveling stuff around, so playing more singleplayer won't help you learn any more beyond this point.
>>585502353Yes. I suck at Dominions but I wouldn't put the endtime crisis in turn 1.
>>585490939>oh so kinda like far cry, okNot at all. It's more like (You) should read it as Dominions, only one game. Then the "sequels" are essentially paid major patches. So like you go from 5.XX to 6.0 and have to buy that patch--but there is no reason to continue on 5.XX other than you can't afford the payment. >>585494305More like Age of Myth, Age of Heroes, Age of Collapse. Also I recommend learning through trial and error in singleplayer. Choose a nation you think is cool over all else first. You're going to slam your head into a wall a little bit. That's okay. The AI sucks dick and is not at all representative of how the game's played. Use the damn mages. Use the mages. Magic is worthwhile. Yes, it is. Always. Use them. I can't stress that enough. Magic wins battles, wars, and games.
>>585502353can't be Spider. He is not subtle. Always posting 1 of 8 screenshots of Kumoko from "So Im A Spider So What?!"
>>585504327
So are there elves in dominions?
>>585505943Yes. But they're not cute lolis with big butts, sadly.
>>585505943Fae summons.
>>585505943Not traditional fantasy sense, but maybe in some mythological sense.https://illwiki.com/dom5/dom6/nationssearch "elf-like" nations
Do (ritual and not) assassination attempts you win in the arena province count as won battles?
>>585510287No?
>>585510362It's technically a battle in the arena
>>585510457You're not contesting the arena though.
>>585511495This. You need to claim the arena and own it at least temporarily for any win to count
you might be in here Xibalba from mr_bEAt on hinaserver, check the MOTD, you are the last to join
>>585510287They're fair play, but too obviously against the spirit of the challenge: great battles to please the Pankomann.Assassinations are attacks, but not battles. Most of them don't even happen "in the province", but in a tavern, mansion room, library, etc.The message is also rather clear: "Dude was a victim of an assassination attempt". No mention of a battle, or a winning or losing side. The results message clearly stating who was defeated has previously been used as the key deciding element a few times before.
is MA Pangaea a scales nation?
>>585511915It was worth a try
I considered dropping a Doom Horror in the arena but I don't think I can choose which one gets summoned with Wish. And there's that chance that it just turns on the caster on summon anyway. I need to find some other silly thing to do with this power.
holy fucking shit mapnuke sucks
>>585519028do it for the meme
>>585519028>droppingCan you even decide where it spawns? At most you can wish for it and hope he doesn't sperg out and attack you on the first turn before you move it to the arena.
>>585519497The plan was to (hopefully) summon Kurgi and teleport it in, but otherwise, yeah.
>>585519335it is indeed hideousshame the in game map editor also blows chunks
>>585519028King/First of the Gigantes, Lord of Hell, Guardian of Muspelheim, Black King, Daughter of Typhon (immortal)
gnight domg
>>585519028Grigori
>>585524794Aren't those all unwishable? If I could I'd throw the Legion of Gods in the arena for a laugh.
>>585519803idk anon, if you know how to draw interesting shapes in krita and then use the blueprint function + spend sometime reading the manual to learn how to clean things up, you can get some nice results from it and even have nice themed map regions. picrel, map from my current friendly disciples lobby for example
>>585529803I feel like it could be more intuitive, but I also haven't read the manuallast time I opened it up I couldn't even switch something to a province type other than plains
Sorry for wrapping up Water World if it was abrupt for people. A lot of people sending unscripted stuff at me so I'm sensing people are kinda over it.It seems people just didn't expand well I ate up all of the underground without anyone contesting it. I was about to start summoning a Telkhine a turn which would've been cool.
>>585532823Carl only plays LA pyrene
frickin go away....so tired of this
>>585538898Disease niggas always be doin too much
>>585532508>people throw a bitch fit when the map has no water to accomodate their snowflake nation>get bored when a pure water game is upLike pottery
>>585543657I mean water nations don't really work in an all water game. You need a pretty strict 2-3 water nations total, and honestly Theredos and LA Ry'leh are kinda fucked for any water heavy game.
How's the ELAsyium game going?
>>585524794You get an old man named Grigori for your wishful thinking.
THERE'S AN UNDERGROUND LAYER?!?! WHAT THE FUCK
>>585543657If everyone's a water nation then nobody is. Water is uniquely terrible since it devolves into stupid shit like conj 5 water ele rushing and it snowballs harder than land factions fighting each other.
Before I'm gone, here's some graphs for full_stEAm
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>>585562957drives me insane that illwinter cant even label the axes with numbers
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>>585564583
WHO THE FUCK IS DOING THIS UNREST SPY BULLSHIT REEEEEEEEEEEEE
I dreamt of Dominions last night. I was playing a new and -was I told- strong nation whose gimmick was a special attack that could be triggered by the player during battle replays.Also the map was some kind of giant tabletop, like several of Warhammer's, with huge buildings and it wasn't looking bad.I think I was doing ok and there may have been some diplomacy but sadly I don't remember much else, thank you for your attention and may you crush the skull of your enemies under your mighty feet/hooves/flappers/paws.
>>585568849This is what R'lyeh does to you
>>585532823>>585538898kek
>>585532823So here I was trying to have a good J O sesh and then these goddamn elves came flyin in outta nowhere and now my turns take so long I lose my boner
>>585519335There's a reason it's called map puke
>>585519335>>585519803>>585574378There was some shit-taste faggot before the release of 6 that said he didn't want 3D maps because the 2D ones look better.Fuck you retard, we could have had soulful pic related but instead we're stuck with these horrid 2D maps. 99% of games are not played on some handcrafted 2D map from Pymous.
>>585519803Illwinter's biggest crime was adding a shitty implementation of the weather and province terrain type change. It's barely relevant, but it made everyone not want to use all those nice handcrafted maps we used all the time in older editions.I miss nice maps
>>5855771963D maps would have made the weather/terrain system comparatively trivial to implement.
>>585563137How the fuck does Therodos have enough income to be making all of these forts
>>585577832No dominion?
*casts astral corruption*have fun, retard
>>585577731These look fine for battles, but not for campaign maps.
Speaking of maps, I was thinking about making some, and possibly trying to run games on them.However, I like interesting design features that aren't always balanced, like long mountain chains with limited passes for example. How willing to try this kind of thing are people?Also, how important is it that maps have wrap around, and does it need to be both west/east and north/south or just the former? Obviously for balance it's better to have it but do people really care I guess is what I'm asking, since our games are unranked and skill levels are all over already anyways.
>>585592279They're battle scale maps, world maps would have a completely different scale.
>everyone is done with their turn 10 hours in>even asphodel>but he put himself on unfinished instead of completed>have to wait 12 hours because of thatWhen is it enough, admin? At what point do you finally forcehost this fucker?
>>585599682He's still unsubmitted. Having a full player roster than a AI asphodel is better.
>>585600190He actually is, there's just so much fucking yellow on his bar I mistook it. Point remains though, he'll do his turn in the next few hours then drag it out another 6, as he's done for what, 10 turns now?
>>585600457He does slightly have a point, where if we roll it it means the game is rolling when most of the players are probably not at their PCs. I don't think its an issue because you don't need like 4 hours to do turns this early and you can just ask in the thread for an extension. I have actually forcehosted him twice but its been like 1-2 hours before the turn rolls, so probably not seeing it.
Shimmering Fields
>>585600668>where if we roll it it means the game is rolling when most of the players are probably not at their PCs.When it rolls there's still 24h so people who do need the extra time will always get it, they'll simply get home to a new turn and do it instead of getting home to his unfinished state and having to wait a few hours. The difference is that normally turns probably average around 12-15h in the early game, while now he's forcing it to average the full 24h. It's perfectly fine to take the full 24h when you need it, but if you can boot up your PC, start Steam, start Dom6, connect to the game, enter your password, and mark as unfinished during expansion phase it means you had the time to do your turn too as they only take a minute. He's only doing this because he's butthurt over a minor setback with the province.Imagine what happens when we move to 48h turn timers later.
>>585268556Just in time for the https://www.youtube.com/@LucidTactics Late Age tierlist
>>585610471Thanks
>>585593481Double wraparound is pretty much a must because otherwise the people in the corners have a HUGE advantage, the ones on edges a big advantage, and the ones in the middle are completely fucked. The difference in advantage is too strong.As for the other stuff: people who like balanced maps above anything else already have mapnuke. Handcrafted maps should have an identity. I think it should be something cool that makes the map play out in an interesting or at least kinda unique way. For example, some mapmakers like making huge swathes of the same kind of map, but fucking no one wants to spawn in the middle of 12 wasteland provinces, and only a select few want to be in the middle of 17 forests. Mobility is fucking ass either way.But some interesting mountain ranges can create pockets of conflict. It can give players a safe flank, allowing more direct attacks elsewhere. Maybe place some particularly rich provinces in front of several bottlenecks, to encourage everyone to bunker up nearby but make it difficult to hold on to the rich land. Use rivers to cut off plains. Shit like that.
>TURN 39 OF THE ARENAPangea tried a good old statue airdrop on the arena. Cast solar brilliance and returned. Killed 4 longdead, blinded some. Not many, I think.Some monsters attacked the arena next, but they got the full napalm treatment with banefire. That's not gonna be fun to go against.Finally, Ragha hit the arena with a small test squad and tricked C'tis into bombing a handful of his own troops.All in all: point for C'tis, plus 0,75 for three extremely easy victories
>>585618081How much MR do these undead have.
>>585620169The 700 Tomb Wyrms have 15 MR (-1 from Magic scales). Have fun with them.
>>585621114Solar Brilliance isn't affected by pen is it... Does anyone with Undead Mastery paths want 2 rune smashers for ts?
>>585575080how would that work? Like a paradox map painting game where it looks like a map until you zoom in and it switches to 3d mode?
>>585621250they have undead regen so solar brilliance isn't an insta win button sadly. need undead mastery spam with as many pen items as you can get, or a mage stacked to the gills with +mr gear and something to kill all the living mages like firestorm or wrathful skies
>>585623889wait, la c'tis sauromancers are sacred... so i guess meteor shower?
>>585623889He has shock res and fire res. I think the only way through it is to kill them all with antimagic up somehow with mundane troops.
>>585624131yeah i forgot la ctis sauromancers are sacred, so i guess meteor shower or a huge horror bomb would give you the best attrition
What about shimmering fields, they can regen false damage from glamour ....
>>585624325aren't spirit sight units immune to that
>>585623395Same as now just that the overworld map is in 3D. The maps in the menu are battle maps, but my point is they have the ability to make good looking 3D maps, or at least better looking than the autogenned puke we play with due to the season/terrain changes.
>>585624482vanilla map gen is fine with a few tweaks desu. you can draw in blue to get a general look of the map, and then go in by hand and set all the terribad provinces to be nostarts. honestly the amount of time it takes is comparable to how much time it takes to generate a mapnuke map
>>585621250>>585623889>>585624126>>585624131>>585624272>>585624325I think the best strategy is to just keep throwing tiny armies at him to attrition him like Ragha did while we build up a bigger one for later.
>>585625352Winning battles gives points too, every small army gives him .25, throw enough at him and it's several turns worth.
good nighty
machaka, surrender now.-ermor
>>585625352nice try c'tis
>that BV nuke deleting the crystal pretender
>>585636124It's what happens when you hit 700 sacreds with blood vengeance.
>>585636124Super unlucky it didnt kill him on the first one. So many mages lost ctis should have only brought half
>>585636124I should have planned better, but fuck it. It was a worthy trade in my eyes. He lost a good chunk of chaff and a lot of mages in my suicide run.
>Think I will just steal the tomb wyrms with apostasy>MR 16 and apostasy is MR negates easily checko-oh okay then
>>585636835NIGGA DID YOU NOT EVEN SIMULACRUM YOUR TENDIE
>>585636983I thought about trying to use Undead Mastery, but it has that same issue.
>>585636124>>585636242>>585636835I WILL NEVER GIVE UP THE ARENA, NEVER, DO YOUR WORSTYou definitely did the most of everyone so far, Agartha. The mages are the weak link, the sacreds are a menace even alone but the banefire spam will be missed.>>585636609It dying on the second roll is good enough for me, could have gone better but could also have gone worse.
>>585637141It was a calculated risk. I could have spent one more turn to get Simulacrum up, but that's one more turn of lizards controlling the arena and getting stronger. Granted, it was a mistake but I put some thought in being stupid.
>>585630793No. Being petty and trying to scratch the face of your enemy as you lose is one of the fun points of this game.
Are there major design issues with this? Figure it's worth addressing them before I make anything pretty. I know the land nations are the least balanced, while cave and water are symmetric. But I think having some asymmetry in land makes it more interesting, and I tried to make sure it wasn't too off. The major concern I have is if the two close by air land spawns are nations that can quickly cross water.Looking for feedback in general though. The pink are not intended to be the only thrones, but probably just a handful of level 1s outside the level 3s at the pink so still major targets.
>Researched Wish>Realized that I can't cast itFUCK
>Originally was gonna play Lemuria in LA_ARENA to cast Utterdark>Figured it would be too slow with my mages costing gems>and had to keep my nordic theme doing (Ea muspel, Ma Nidavangr, now La Utgard)>mfw see the Lemuria anon taking L after LAnyhow, this might be the last match i play on a while, feels more like a daily checklist than a game to me, i realized i am too dumb to sink hundreds of hours and learn the ins and outs, i had fun for sure!PS:Fuck you Yomi
>>585647263Balanced asymmetry is more fun I agree. I think you should make the cave layer arenas a bit more natural looking too.
>>585649575>i realized i am too dumb to sink hundreds of hours and learn the ins and outsfor me it's a real touch and go, sometimes I take several month-long breaksrather than intentionally try to learn I just fuck up and see what other people are doinganyway glad you had fun
>>585640594yeah, i agree anon, dw, just a bit of banter
>>585647263huh, i was almost thinking of using hexes for a 4 player scenario im working on as i have a lot of experience with them for ttrpg stuff... but i was worried it might be too cluttered with each province having 6 connections without rivers or mountains. what do you anons think?
>>585647263Maybe its just me, but I really dislike the vanilla style of mountains being a border thing since its unclear from the tile whether a province is mountain, highland, or plain. It can also cause a surprisingly few number of plains, which can make movement a huge hassle.
>>585398510Twiceborn casters using wither bones maybe? BV bounces off lifeless right? So some twiceborn mages running a wither bones commununion?
does gift of health not work on diseases or am I just getting unlucky rolls
>>585655420That is entirely a problem of whatever mapgen you're using. If the map clearly depicts where mountains are and hand places plains and other types this is not even a point of discussion.>>585655040Personally I think it works fine but you have to aggressively create mountain ranges. I may need more still. I have to through it in the game itself and see what it looks like.
>>585658413it does but it's a low chance iirc. is the unit already old? recup doesn't work on old units so maybe it works the same way
>>585562957MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>585659919nah not old, just two diseased summons with limps, sitting in 8 dominionthen again I just realized they're also in my c'tissian swamps so it's possible they got healed then instantly diseased again
>Got removed on T1 of a new game>For the second timeThank you for preventing me from falling back into playing this game again, this playerbase is truly blighted
>>585661190>>585511884If you're talking about this game, the MOTD read something like join the linked discord or be kickedBest to wait until someone actually from the thread starts a lobby
>>585659652Well I did say vanilla..
>>585661190they could sense your autism
>>585659652my current thoughts are a vaguely celtic themed scenario.TNN, Marverni, Fomoria, and Ulm, with only celtic pretenders permitted. each nation starts in a corner of the map and at the center lies a large forest of 12-16 provinces infested with dragons and similar. 4 1 point thrones on the perimeter of the forest (one for each nation), each guarded by a different color dragon and its forces, with a 3 point throne at the center guarded by a dracolich and it's forces. 4 points to victory. i think i'm off to a nice start, just need to get off my ass and make it so i can test it..
>>585661190If a lobby is public and wasn't advertised in this thread there is a good chance that the host forgot to make it unlisted. The few communities that use hina have unlisted games with the sole exception of /domg/If you were going to play xibalba then it is entirely your fault for not reading the MOTD that plainly stated to join a discord or get booted
so what's the upside of hina over just hosting using the in game thing
>>585669228hina is in-group behavior for anon
>>585669228anyone in an in-game lobby can sabotage it, which wouldn't normally be a problem but domg is an online asylum
>>585647263only for mp, at best, I dislike when mp symmetrical balance impacts overall game design
>>585649161Wish to be able to cast it.>>585488792Are we signed up for vgl27?
>>585677683>Wish to be able to cast it.I'm fucking trying but there aren't enough boosters for this shit. I might have to use a turn to empower and eat pearls that should be used for a wish to be able to wish in the first place.
THREAT ALERT. The mohglester has taken a FREE fortress from the AI. /THREAT ALERT
>>585668883sigh guess i missed out on joining a new discord server and making friends while playing dominions....................................... oh well maybe i'll find another one to join at some point but probably not.........
>>585488792https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_27_SignupsOOOOOOOOO MANAGER
>>585678139Good morning domg
I thought /domg/ said anzu were overpowered, but they get destroyed in this demonstrationhttps://youtu.be/VDnrotkaojI
new merrow in the new year, I can feel it change is on the wind
>>585696616Soon
redpill me on berytos. scales elephant expansion? massing cavalry? does it require an awake?
>>585709334Yes, elephants still work fine
>>585649575Thanks for playing, anon. Glad you had fun.Most people take long breaks every now and then. It's a game you learn slowly, over the years. I've been playing for close to 15 years and still haven't bothered to learn communions.At some point it turns into a comfy routine, though. It's just a nice, daily dose of autism, like a warm cup of tea.You'll be back. Maybe.
>TURN 40 OF THE ARENAAgartha went in for another fly by. Survived the banefire napalm strike just fine, but lost 300+ HP from earthquaking blood bonded sacreds. Then the mad lad did it again.Then a horror attacked the arena, but got wrecked by a brave snake's bite and a well aimed banefire blast.Point for C'tis, +0,5 for two victories!
>>585716462And here is the great tally as of right now, as we start the final stretch.Will C'tis make it to the top in time? Will Andramania manage to defend his position? Or will our resident newbie, who's still ranking 2nd, surprise us once more and reach for victory? Stay tuned!
>>585716732Utgard would have to essentially get everything to win. All the remaining turns and someone else taking last than Andra. And C'tis had attrition of whopping 1 wyrm.
>>585717684Dude was asking how commanders work while hogging the arena and he's been in the top 3 for like 90%+ of the time we've been playing this, and in the top 1 for a solid 30% or so, straight off the top of my head. If anyone deserves a cheerleader, it's him
>>585709334First, you're pathetic early game and OP later, so you're the #1 rush target in the age. Second, your blood summons are what's OP, and you can't blood hunt when you're on the back foot in an early war. These together mean it's basically suicide to not take a strong awake.You can't fit a hellbless on an awake monster and giga storm demons are stronger than your zerker goats anyway, so a hard skin earth monster is the most reliable option. Ant lion, drakon, white bull, you have some of the strongest options for it.
Soccer?
>>585727985Soon
Banefire
>>585726230>Ant lionworth spending the points on raising its fire path or just stick to earth?
>>585729350But sign-ups are NOW
>>585735108You'll need to raise it to F2 minimum to pay for the earth bless, and that's enough for a half cost fire shield and to cast phoenix pyre later. F3 for some innate fire res and cheaper fire buffs is alright, but I'd only take it if you have spare points, or if dropping a point of dominion is enough for F3 but not enough for +1 scale.
>>585718515I will blush, shut it!>>585713280Thank you!
Where are the LA boomers at? I'm trying Pyrene
>>585649575It's really not that complicated you learn by playing and having the inspector open to see what units do and what spells the enemy might cast. It's definitely an autistic game and takes a lot of commitment so if it gets annoying not being able to take breaks prob best to just do something else. Blitzes can be fun though and give you much more reps in learning the game if you want to try those sometime, idk if they still happen here but surely on a discord.
>>585727985You mean divegrass?
This is a message from the manager, who can't post it himself: The /vg/ League signups are in fact open right now, so if you're interested in seeing some more divegrass, give a (You) to this post. Also, if we do play, it'll be as an autopilot unless somebody else wants to try their hand at managing.
>>585749496I'm down to watch I always try to tune in, but if it's a hassle to you there's a 40% chance I miss it anyway so up to you.
>>585749496Going AI seems very domgeqsue so GO AHEAD I like watching them (from time to time) the reactions to the names is always a chuckle
>>585749496In that case, I'll be going AI as well.
>>585752245>>585750352kek
>>585749496Given we won't be in qualifiers this time, our auto menace will harm all who face us.
>>585749496Please sign us up
>>585749496>Goes aiAppropriate
>>585749496sending my AI to watch for me
>>585756176Who watches the ai men?
Leeching darkness
Stream of Life
>>585749496Go for it
>>585790015Yomi is so overpowered
>>585792000what actually happened that people consider them OP now? i know 2 of their biggest counters, holy scourge and massed air eles don't really work vs them anymore but was that really all it took?
>>585792319I never played dom5 but yomi seems to run over the early game in EA from turn 1 and their mid/lategame isnt even that bad. They have army wipes and a thug chassis in the same unit, but also it's a mixup too. They could cast firestorm one battle or stall with all their freespawn with rigor mortis in another. The nation is just too good in many ways, it's not just the dai oni soloing everything but their versatile gameplan on top of the momentum from early power spike
>>585792319Very strong early and a strong mid too. Being demons means a weak late game as there's a million ways to fuck them over but by then the game is either already over or Yomi's huge. Of course this is mostly an issue for sweaties, if Yomi is one of those trying to win as fast as he can then it's a problem, if he's taking it more chill research will eventually give you the tools to counter him. Most of the nation power level discussions come from communities whose games end at turn 35 by forfeit.
>>585792319noobs use dai oni to beat noobsadepts use shikome to beat adeptsvery little trades effectively into an optimized shikome bless
>music got much worse>maps look like puke because of the seasons/terrain changes meaning everyone uses autogensBooted up Dom4 again and I'm afraid that Dominions has lost a lot of soul over the years.
>>585793921disagree about the music but the map issue is very real, very fucking ugly but their default map gen is god awful
>>585794397https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnmW88w3WG0
Good night domg
>>585696616
I have so far won mp games with:MA Xibalba, MA Shinuyama, LA Pythium and MA Eriu.What nation is my best bet to get an EA win?Also what would you describe my style as based on the nations I've won with?
>>585807993You like painI recommend ea rlyeh
>>585807993>What nation is my best bet to get an EA win?Yomi
>press n>ponder>repeat 500x>mark turn as unfinished>ponder
>TURN 41 OF THE ARENAC'tis abandoned the arena, but not before killing another random horror.Andramania took the arena again with another 700+ hot dogs, killing the 1 PD left behind.Battles not worth posting, the total death tally is four idiots and a skeleton.Point for Andramania, +0,25 for the easy victory and another 0,25 for C'tis for defeating the horror!
What are some HORSE factions?
>>585820641You want to ride a horse or be a horse?Man/Marignon for the former, Pangaea for the latter
>>585820641LA Tien and EA SauroHonorary for Bogarus
>>585793921No point in feeling bad, ded multiplayer = ded game
Rigor Mortis
why don't pretenders fight the war?why do they always send the poor?
>>585854607Tendie is sleeping.
>>585854607You aint never seen my nigga the dracolich
>third game in a row where I am attacked by a neighbor without a single message or anythingWhat is going on?
>>585855218Why would someone who is planning to attack you, message you?
>>585855450Usually I try to at least misdirect, maybe offer to 2v1 neighbor C before backstabbing him. Perhaps a lie about neighbor C asking me to attack him here, another lie about neighbor D being in on the attack on neighbor C there. Maybe a few trade offers to make it seem like we're good neighbors, and I'm not even going into the edited llamaserver emails to "prove" I am in fact neighbor E (sadly a thing of the past now). /domg/ these days has no finesse.
>>585856061The standard is no comms so by giving any comms at all you're ironically informing them you think of them which means you think about attacking themThe ideal domg neighbor is a nameless faceless blob next to you that never interacts at all
>>585855218That is me. Your bless sucks and your tendie is imprisoned so I'm killing you.Thanks.
>>585856494No communions?
Mortus
>>585869324Is this list randomized
This is not a drill. The massa has won one (1) single battle. Kneel.
The bless was actually a curse
>>585854607My tendie is the first one throwing hands
ACKKK!!! MY ONLY REGRET IS I HAD BONE-ITIS!!!!!
>>585871761Yeah, the crossbowmen got blown up. The real problem was that my tendie didn't have enough gems to cast Master Enslave in a third battle.
>>585871761"I can make Death Explosion work" is the Dominions version of "I can fix her"
>>585872038Death explosion is only good on LA abysia with their fire immune ghost summons
Lets see if i got dominion killed yet
>>585872038I'll fuckin do it againGive me a nation that can field 600 sacreds and I'll take Death Explosion every time. Note: This is only the second time I've ever done it and the third MP game I've ever played.
>>585872202BASED
Some of the units I stole with Master Enslave made it back home. I don't really want them.I also still have some fucking ghosts I stole from Lemuria a while back that I can't do anything with since I don't have anyone that can command undead. There are nine ghosts just sitting around spooking random passerby.
>>585873023Return me my slaves
Also the fucking necromancer event happened and he stole 21 of my death gems
>>585807993Yomi, Agartha, Rus, Hinnom, Arco, Pan, Lanka, maybe Ermor with the new sacred.
>>585877528No, they will continue to haunt my halls until the end of the game. At least it isn't like what happened in the last arena game. I was MA Marignon and an event gave me a couple of Devils that nobody could command, so they just sat in my cap eating fire blasts from the site.
>>585881360ea RLYEH is a sure way to victory
THREAT ALERT STORMVEIL IS THE THREATI will try to double tonight sorry if being last most times is annoying
>>585885372bruh
>>585886027
>>585882650based and lore accurate ma mari torturing demons in its cap
Wo Muuch Warriors owe me sex
>>585894609>Grab and Swallow
>be friendly with C'tis because cancer dominions have to stick together>he stabs me in the back to help Bandar LogThere's no honor among cancerdoms. If you defeat me, they'll persecute you next.
>>585902408you're playing ermor you have no friends
>>585872202>marignon
>>585856061hey man, it's your most trusted neighbor here. you know who I am. sorry.
>>585792319Someone figured out a build.
>>585894609>>585897674I heard they Sak.
>wasting almost 30 turns against AI and still can't finish them off in MP.I'm so fucking bad at this game...
>>585905052Gnight. I will be away for couple of weeks, keep the thread alive, lads.>>585749496You have my yes too. But I suppose we won't have roster poll or anything?
I wish there were more factions like in CoE besides Indies, players, and horrors
>>585913765bro just empower one of your D4 mages with air so you can trapeeze on top of the enemy, give them a ring of returning, and proceed to cast winds of death repeatedlyliterally unbeatable and will clear ai chaff instantly.
>>585920537if you know how to make mods im pretty certain you can do this. dont just whine anon, get to work. documentation is in OP))
Utterdark
>>585922245Thanks, I will consider that once I reached Evo 7 and Const 7.also does anyone planing to make vanilla game lobby for MA or LA? EA is also fine too.
>>585923258Will do
>>585920537Like what though? Cloud people or demons? Why not just make them players?
Pretender for t'is feel, brethen? Smithing heathens is fun.>>585920537My main beefs against CoE are how unbalanced it can be. Thou can be Baron and not find any village that thee need to grow, thou'rn't guaranteed to have ressources near thou like in most strategy games.My second is that thou cannost forge magical items, thou art to find them.
>>585940052>my main beef against coe is how unbalanced it can beWorry not, my friend. Dominions is known to be well balanced
>>585946367Why's a popori on /domg/?
>TURN 42 OF THE ARENAAndramania gets a free 0,25 points killing a mind slime horror.Then proceeds to get BRUTALLY OBLITERATED. by Piconye. The lion got mauled to death by its own troops.Pangea arrived with a small army, but the hobbit's mass proyectile and evocation spam, plus the exploding bless, resulted in plenty of casualties. Mostly dogs. However, many fled the battlefield, leaving them vulnerable to the next battle.Lemuria cast one funny bone grinding and watched the large majority of Piconye's army explode. Fucking beautiful.And finally, C'tis came back and wrecked the ghosts once again.Point for C'tis! +0,25 for one victoryAndramania +0,25Piconye +0,5Lemuria +0,25
>>585947612Honorable mention to Andramania for the perfectly placed message
>>585947612Pan was actually planning on doing what I did to Andramania, some mage there was scripted to cast Beast Mastery. It might have actually worked out for him if he actually got to fight Andramania.
>>585947612>And finally, C'tis came back and wrecked the ghosts once again.kek Lemuria can't catch a break
good night, domgers>>585947797C'tis is not a menace!
>>585947612Rofl based Piconye for that meme bless tho wins based on rule of lul
>>585902408you are popkill dude what do you expect, you are evil and one of the strongest ones too
>>585947612Hell yeah birbs
arco, i see that you are also being raped by earth elemental attacks, solidarity. this range of hills and mountains is cursed.
>>585965127Man if it isn't ghosts it's elementals.
Summon Flame Jelly
>be new to Dominons, played some 5 in singleplayer but never multiplayer>join a bunch of games here because I figure there's no way I'll survive in all of them>somehow won my first war in literally all of them>pretty sure I'm leading in one, second or third in another, can't tell in the rest>have already directly killed or caused someone to gg/quit in every single one of those games>now I have to play for like 2 hours every night because I have so many turnsdo you guys suck or am I riding some insane newbie luck or what?like I'm just kind of throwing dudes at people and it keeps working, even though I consistently mess up scripting, have no idea what to research, what troops to recruit, completely yolo'd god creation, and so on.the only thing I can think of is that I attacked earlier than people expected because I wasn't trying for some super sekrit top tier end game strat and am going to get smashed in late game but cleaned up the people who skimped on armies early
>>585984338Sometimes dudes just go ai next to you and you get free territory It's how most irl dictators and emperors did so well
>>585985660I wish my government went AI
>>585984338Many players here just suck in the sense that they don't take motivated action to snowball and get (more) ahead which is what wins games in Dom. You're doing better than most by just taking the initiative at all even if another motivated but more skilled player would trounce you, but we're seriously lacking in those around here these days.
I am OPEN for donations to help defeat the Mohglester (free second capital blood nation)
>>585995145Finish me yourself you fat chud, you're like 3 times my prov and mage count yet have been camping the chokepoint for a dozen turns now
>>585998792Yeah cause I'm also dealing with the most annoying Gelmir player of all time who almost killed me cause I had to split my army, but soon I will attack I just couldnt risk losing my army on both fronts. I actually pulled out that entire stack to defend vs Gelmir for a bit that's why I stopped fighting you
Can someone recap what happened to Natgen? Did horrors eat all the thrones? I dipped out when my ele kings got horrored after the 1v4. Where are the graphs? Fuck you Atimon at least post the graphs i know you have the site that shows all graphs.t.Tisfaor
>>586007057The Ai won, I believe. Really funny that he quit when Tifs started pushing back only to win in the endI’ll host another soon
>>585984338Most lobbies are balanced out by diplomacy because the nations are so unbalanced and the rng can be pretty brutal but since most domg veterans barely communicate and it's on this awkward in game messenger system the games are a lot more chaotic and random, add in the tendency for even the best players to just randomly quit due to no long term consequence and it's just a crapshoot sometimes... But it's often still more fun than the discord retardation due to a bunch of factors.
>>585984338You can overwhelm people early with sheer numbers and chaffs. Especially in /domg/ environment where everyone likes to use gold for research early instead of troops. That doesn't mean you are in the position to win because that 3-4th strongest nation is probably waiting for their mid/late game gimmick to come online and kick your teeth in. Don't be surprised to see you lose in 5 turns being the strongest nation income and troop wise in the lobby on war dec.
>>585984338It's ez to take out thinkmaxxers early on by just spamming dudes, esp if you're up against sacred/mage-heavy nations that can't spam out their backbone quickly. Anyone with an above-average army like Mekone or MA Ulm can wipe the floor with basically everyone else early-game.
Ermor days soon.
>>586007057>>586009289Apollmatia (AI) wonThere's some dominions bug that doesn't cause the graphs to show up and I don't know what causes it nor what I need to change in the save files to make it work again. There was another game that had the same bug about a month ago
>>585985660that did happen in one game that gave me a bunch of turf after my first war and I won't deny it's a luck advantage.>>585993531I guess that makes sense I was super scared to attack the first time but when it went well I just said fuck it and attacked someone in like all my games>>586017432what's better or worse with discord games? never tried thembut I do feel there's like no communication about games in this thread practically and the turn delay for in game makes it too hardalthough I don't know how much could be done in some games because even if you want to help if you don't share a border what can you do?>>586017873yeah I'm kind of expecting that in some of the games. I just don't know when or how it'll happen because a lot of my enemies thus far have had like nothing going on or one big doom stack and that's it>>586018940I guess that's kind of like the cycle of 4X life tho right?you gotta get to your powerspike and exploit itif you don't rape niggas with praetorians while you can you're gonna get raped later on so you better just get too big to fail while you can
>>586029464You'll understand when your stacks of ordinary units gets jumped by a few Golems or other SCs or a simple elf rush that slash your economy in half in the first turn of the war. Then reality kicks in and either you have the out against the enemy or you don't, thus the outcome of the war has already been decided, unless you are willing to diplomance and beg for help, but at that point people won't be eager to help the biggest nation in the game. So expect to win 2v1s or 3v1s with concessions at that point.
>>586029464That pic reminds me of "man with ebola growing stronger" meme. Somebody should make "Ermor man with curse of undeath growing stronger".
>>586029464>what's better or worse with discord games? never tried themDiscord games are better because people are much more likely to communicate and deal with *the threat* than here but on the other hand cliques and extreme autism means that you can end up dealing with the same group of buttbuddies secretly planning everything together or get some faggot that holds a grudge on you for the next 10 games because you attacked him. Entering games is a bit more difficult and usually people segregate based on skill at least for noobs and if you suddenly leave then your reputation suffers and people might not invite you again versus here where there is little consequence. So it's a more tryhard serious atmosphere.All in all I like being in Discord games for tryharding and domge games for fun meme games that you don't take too seriously. It's competitive versus quickplay basically. Though sometimes you get some real nerds here too.
>>586043029huhseems like different skillsets to be honestone is diplomacy and coordination the other is raw in game intel and gameplayit would be kind of cool to get a system up where you are still anonymous in game but you do have an mmr score still, and then you can get marked as a known leaver or whatever too
>>586044337Nah people in the known forums are much more skilled too but that's also because people deliberately won't put too much effort in game where everyone can leave at any point.Thought the archetype of the autistic social pariahs (that have been banned from regular games) that think they're the shit congregate here too because diplomancy is vastly weaker here.Though there is something magical about an anonymous game where no one knows each other and every turn is turn based diplomacy, the problem with known faces is that everyone is pre-coalitioning the good players which can get tiresome. There was talks of a mmr system with blitzmin but he refused due various reasons (that are also legit)
On average discord games are higher quality. HOWEVEREvery game you join will absolutely have one guy that thinks he's fucking Machiavelli but he's actually supremely retarded and petty and will torpedo both of your games while the leader rapes the rest of the lobby.They will also keep sending you messages sperging out if you don't bow to their autism and start shit talking you in the public chat.You might get lucky and never have to deal with that guy though and have quite a fun game.Retarded autists exist here too, but their reputation isn't on the line and theyll just give up rather than sperg at you over the days. Though if they do sperg it will be in the spirit of domg and be amusing
>>586044778I don't really agree fundamentally because the strategies that work in a game with instant communication and perfect information via screenshots are just not congruent with those that require self-scouting and prevent coalition coordination to such a degreethe ruleset is barely comparable, and so saying one group is more skilled seems a bad comparison; it's like saying a tennis player is more skilled than a volleyball playerand personally since spies and sites that show graphs and stuff are built into the game it seems the information asymmetry is intentional, so the discord version is kind of a special one, the default is anonymous with minimal coordination
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Is burden of time still gank worthy
>>586056262Only if you are playing specific nations weak to it does it matter. Namely nations with low life spans like AbysiaThe caster can usually just do way more with their death gems than cast BoT, especially if we are talking about an Ermor casting it
>>586045870In principle I agree with you in practice the human element makes things different, in, any, case, that's just, generalization, mileage, may, wary,
>>586044337>>586043029>>586029464Discord is overall better if you want to take the game seriously. There's no reason to not play discord games if you actually want to try and want others to not shit on the game by going AI. That being said I only play domg games recently cause I want the casual aspect of games. Being forced to answer DMs from people who care much more about the game than me is really annoying. Diplo here is separated by 1 turn so you cant really coordinate hardcore and it eliminates a lot of autism.
>TURN 43 OF THE ARENAA gore tide horror attacked C'tis. Got napalm'd, granted 0,25 points.Then came Tienchi and it all devolved into a big display of random shit go. Maybe poison arrows wasn't the best choice against C'tis. Ultimately the Tiencheese couldn't kill mummy snakes fast enough, and were blasted into a retreat, with a couple well buffed mages holding out surprisingly long.Point for C'tis, +0,5 for two victories!
>>586059631my whole point is it's a different game though, you've fundamentally changed the rules suddenly your neighbor's time zone matters because it affects coordination, metagaming is arguably more important than the game itself, and so onif you actually want to try and play discord you might not get shit on by someone going ai but is that better or worse than getting shit on because of a metagrudge or because of a metaclique goonsquad?discord is effectively a gigamod stapled onto the game because aspects like hidden graphs, spies, na'ba, and so on are entirely changedlike why would you ever spend gems or commander points spying if you can just get free screenshots
>>586060587You can just play a public diplomacy game too though so conniving and diplo spamming is discouraged
EYES OF GOD
Nice try you bastards. Love the bargain bin isekaislop writing for this message.I was finally pushed out of the arena this turn though.
>>586029464>>586043029>>586059631Besides discord players secretly scheming with their own personal dilation congregation, and having to diplo with some supreme sperglords who will get offended for bizarre reasons (which is also common here, but domg barely does diplo so you run into it less in that sense), there's also the problem that when people don't want to play the game anymore, instead of going AI outright and suffering that more dramatic stigma, they get every turn extended, and as the game goes on, more and more of these losers are extending every turn until you're getting two turns a week.The only way to get quality games is to vet the players somehow, which can be done over discord to an extent if you integrate into a non-pozzed community, and could be done here since the host site admin can track players by their copy of the game and piracy can't get around it, but blitzmin was a true lolbertarian and refused. I don't know if hinamin would.
>>586073436Well, that didn't work as well as I thought it would. Maybe I should have targeted Ulm's god just to get rid of those globals.
>>586073801Tracking chronic early stalers would only be a net positive. If youre going AI before turn 20 consistently you probably should not join any more
>>586074331Is there no way for the server to identify players?
>>586073801>>586074331While Hinamin would be a supreme gentleman for doing so I can imagine not from a "don't step on snake" perspective but more of a general perspective of not wanting to deal with seething spergs getting called out for serial stalling would maybe be a headache. Should do it tho! Could even make it an optional mmr setting so no one is forced either way (I can make up the name while someone codes this) :-)
>>586075246Well it should be up to the admin to see their tracked stales and kick or not
>>586075246Just make it optional per game, admin can decide if its on or not. If the community doesn't want it, they won't join games with it, and nobody will use it.More likely though it will be revealed that the same people saying we shouldn't add it are the dickheads staling and going AI in expansion phase, and that they're a loud minority.
This >>586074331 was my perspective and this >>586075246 was my suggestion to blitzmin if he didn't want to violate the sanctity of being a faggot anonymously, to make it optional, but he still wouldn't bite. Hinamin may not want to do something blitzmin wouldn't but holy fuck would it improve the quality of games to even cut out the worst 1-2 shitters who routinely join and become a free AI meal before year 1.
>>586075661>>586075720>>586075854If it's an optional system that only the lobby admin can see and only enabled optionally and to be gracious non-default setting then surely no one except serial stallers could be against it.As you say the worst part of domge games are the serial stallers/leavers they've enshittiified the game for years and sure everyone has an emergency at points but it's such a consistent element that at this point it has to be the same handful of retards that would've been banned at any semi public function long ago
We've had this talk many times. A few faggots get very loud against it every time and then it fades away.We'd just need a very simple system. Something like going AI before turn 50 giving you points: the earlier you went AI, the more points you get.If the game admin forces you to AI, you don't get any points. So if you're stuck with almost nothing left and the attacker simply won't finish you off, you can just ask the admin to sort it out.Points decay slowly over time, and finishing games also lowers them a bit.The server keeps track of the points each CD-key has, and there's an option to stop keys with more than X points from joining.Would need a bit of fiddling but that's essentially it. Most people will never interact with the system at all, since even dropping out every now and then should not raise your score enough to get filtered. And since no data is displayed at any moment, the community stays anonymous. Quitters simply can't join games with the filter on, so they'll have to wait (therefore not being able to shit up games) or stick to unfiltered games (where they can play with each other and anyone who doesn't mind).We just need to target the 5-10% worst chainquitters.
>>586078010Yeah something like that, very simple, it's good that it filters people before joining so there isn't even a real chance of cross reference between games. Good to have decay, good to have options to get an exception..I think a thing in all of this is also the preventive effect, if there is a risk of being barred for a little while from future games some people would be incentivized to spend the 2 minutes of effort going through the turn of a losing game rather than just wasting hours of time of everyone by running the clock down.
Personally I would be totally for an optional staler/early leaver tag as well as an MMR system. I see very few downsides.>>586078010One caveat I'll raise ahead of time with that is you need to restirct games that let it decrease to be public ones. But not a terrible idea.
>>586080054It could just be a toggle for the host to track the game in the first place. Of course we are just idea guys I have no idea how annoying it would be to actually code.
>>586078010This and make it non-linear.>AI before turn 15 = 50-100 points>AI after turn 40 = 2-5 points or something like that. If you die, no points. If admin AIs you, no points.>Points decay slowly over timeYes>finishing games also lowers them a bit.No, dickheads will join games with intentionally shit pretenders and attack the first neighbor at turn 5 just to die, or with 1 dom to do the same. No reason to give them an easy out anyway, simply don't accrue points to begin with.>The server keeps track of the points each CD-key has, and there's an option to stop keys with more than X points from joining.Yes, a max points limit when the admin makes a game would be perfect. Limit displayed publicly, but player scores are not of course. Staling should also give points and increase with stales, so if you chain stale it keeps increasing (e.g. n^2, 1st stale 1 point, 5th stale 25 points, but stops after the 5th) but a single stale here and there won't do shit because that kind of thing happens. Or maybe better if its stales per game, with the final step giving you the same amount of points as going AI would.
>>586080476Assuming all the data is available to the server this stuff is trivial to implement, even if you don't know how AI will do this kind of thing in 1 prompt. The bigger issue is balancing it and making it exploit proof, which is where keeping it simple matters.
>>586080518This is getting way too complicated. Dying fast still contributes to the game who cares.The system just needs to be barely there and simple. >>586080752
>>586080841>Dying fast still contributes to the game who caresDying fast wouldn't penalize you at all though? It just wouldn't remove any points so you can't enter games with the intention of dying fast to get your points down. Also just make a non-linear turn curve and multiply the point values for going AI and staling by it, done. One curve, two constant values, and then the points you get reduce by some amount every n time span.
What >>586078010 has proposed a couple times now is pretty close to what I want in a system. I have a rough idea that I would like to implement whenever I get the chance based heavily on that system, but when that will be I dunno. I play in /domg/ games quite often so I know how much it sucks to have people go AI or chainstalling especially early on, and I do want something to (optionally) prevent this, or make it less worse>>586075231I know your CD key, but it's only visible to me. I am not interested in making people identifiable even if it is just to game admins>>586080752For this reason I am half considering doing an inverted system to that of >>586078010 where you get points for playing instead of getting points for dropping out. It comes at the cost of making it harder for newfrens to play here but also prevents people from jumping to another CD key. At the same time I don't think anyone would care enough to go through with the effort to do that.
>>586083692>I know your CD key, but it's only visible to me. I am not interested in making people identifiable even if it is just to game adminsWhat, like the actual CD key and not a hashed or something? >where you get points for playing instead of getting points for dropping outAs you yourself noted, if the system sees widespread use (which is the idea) then newfags will never get to play except in shitty lobbies with the AIing/staling low-points dalit caste which will just turn them off the game before they can farm enough izzat to play with higher castes. I think just giving out points for going AI before dying or staling is enough, it's easy to just let the points drop by 1 every 24 hours or something.
the system wouldn't even have to be very strict, i have a suspicion it's a small number of chronic game ruiners rather than a large-scale issue
>>586085038>What, like the actual CD key and not a hashed or something?The first part of your key is shipped in every save file that the game produces. Not enough for me to plug it into any old copy of the game and have it work, but enough for me to flag you when you submit multiple pretenders to the same game, or complain when you try to overwrite someone else's pretender
>>585992586Give it a few years
Bane
>mfw I am the one playing broken shit and going full tryhard in all your silly 4chan games
If the elden ring admin is here 3 are unfinished i suspect a stale or two, extension?
Second Sun
>>586104920Second son (gay)
>>586105341Theft of the son (he's mine now)
>>586107058
>>586097762It's an asymmetric war game bruh
>>586097762my nigga unless you're yomi it can't be THAT broken
>>586097762Why?
>>586105341>>586107058>theft of gay sonsReminds me of that old fable...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsCaFAJYCI8
Best nation for being ignored all game?No popkill, no underwater nations
>>586125232MA C'tis in theory, why fight in disease dominion.
>>586125232MA Ermor, Lemuria, and LA R'lyeh. In domg games it depends, but on Discord games where people consistently try to win nobody will touch you as it's a net loss (provinces are worthless) and games usually end well before you can scale into a problem since forfeiting actually happens.>No popkill, no underwater nationsThen cave nations if you are lucky enough to be in your own cave "island" and not bordering anyone with easy access to dark vision. Alternatively something annoying to fight like elves etc. Just be a less appealing target than everyone else your neighbors neighbor and you're good.
>>586125232UW is the ultimate choice, but if you don't want that, MA C'tis or a strong cave nation. And if you don't want those, LA Atlantis has a strong home field advantage in its cold scales, but you can sometimes get rushed by a hellbless during you vulnerable early game before you can really shit out the ice guard. An established LAtlantis tends to be left alone. MA Ulm gets left alone unless someone has an easy counter like Foul Vapors. Andramania has OP units so nobody wants to fight them until they have mass soul slay/enslave mind going. Zemaitia has strong sacreds and out of cap stealthy raiders so they're just AIDS.Any nation with a strong early game is intimidating early, but you're prone to being ganged up on later. Hinnom/Ashdod, Yomi, Rus, EA Vanheim, MA Mari, EA/MA Pan, MA Man, Nidders, Pythium, Ragha are definitely some.
Hey guys, remember when Mictlan was one of the most feared nations in the game?Haha good times
>>586097762Every lobby needs a villain it's okay Anon
>>586137045Got your threads mixed up time to, go, ai
SAURO GOING AI AFTER ATTACKING ME IS MAJOR KEK BEHAVIOUR.
>>586137643highest iq domg player trying to kill skinshifters with low strength stacking cavalry and no mages
>>586139251He had a regen bless too. Guys if you are playing a nation for the first time at least look at some builds
>>586137643Did the bull actually try to trample stuff?That is not the kind of tendy you through into a pitched battle to stomp around. Maaaybe if they were casting some big spells for you like howl or relief or something
>>586139391The bull had no buffs and died to two chud battleaxe swings
>>586137643nation of girlbosses and literal sissies folds to nation of bear-devouring gigachuds
What's the most rapist naction
>>586135436happier days for /domg/
>>586146673LA PyreneEa/Ma PanOceaniaEA Abysia
>>586146673In what sense? MA Pyrene raped demonic goats with other goats to breed bigger blacker dicked demon goats for their men to ride into battle and their women to in the bedroom.The flavors of Releyigh (or however you spell it) rape women in costal provonces to make crossbreeds.I am sure there are more cases than just that.
>>586146673Pangaea or whatever, being animals, are frequently the victims of naked white women
>>586146673Isn't Hinnom?
>>586156642I think it might be very hard to actually rape with that size difference.I think they are more into cannibalism than actual giant on humie rape
>>586160617They were graping avvites iirc
>>586163802They were raping avvites.
Is it even possible to reliably expand with defense tanks?I'm trying to come up with something using the Eriu Sidhe Lords but no matter what it feels like there's a high chance they just get blown away.
>>586173405The sidhe lords horses cant get enough defense to do that in expansion, and they have dogshit prot so they get obliterated by any ranged attacks or high attack density indies like bone tribe. Even slingers would bully a sidhe lords mount.I'd give up on finding a bless for sidhe lord expansion, at best you might be able to grab an extra province or two with them against weak provinces while focusing your bless on the doaine sidhe to expand. Awake monster is also an option.Sidhe lords are best used when you have some construction and buffs unlocked for light to medium thugging, or for just being glamour casters under twilight
>>586173405Lucid's discord has almost 6k posts trying to wrangle Eriu. Someone was able to make a Great Sage pretender with an Awe, Unbearable Splendor, and Fire Resistance bless work.8F 2A 3W 3E 4S 3D 1N 6G4 Dom, 2 Chaos, 2 Sloth, 2 Heat, 2 Death, 1 Misfortune, 1 DrainI have not tried it myself and there are a bunch of other ones that I think look better, but there it is.
>>586174652Demi LichStyg skin + Fear with 8 domExpand like a demon into most indies with your sacreds. Sidhe lords can maybe sniper easy provs (possibly in pairs) didn't really try. It was good enough to win a domg game at least
>>586173405just take stygian skin undying and enchanted blood like everyone else unc
>>586173405You gotta kill the fuckers
>>586083692I'm the anon you're quoting.I actually spend some time thinking about it and did share some specific implementation of it a couple years back.I don't remember much and unfortunately I didn't bother saving it, but long story short, gaining good points is worse than gaining bad points.First, we're a small community within an already very niche playerbase. Any kind of friction to new players is bad, as is dooming them to play their first games with a particularly high quitter concentration.Second, it makes balancing a lot more complicated. How do you gain points? By finishing games or playing until death? How many? A flat amount per game? It can take months to finish one game! And then either you have some sort of cap or extreme diminishing returns (like receiving exponentially fewer points the more points you already have), or you'll have a sort of two communities at once, since anybody old will have many more points than anybody new. What numbers do you even pick to sort people now?It's just a lot more complicated.
>>586176546My suggested model is: you gain points = (60-(current turn))+(points you already have x 0,5). Being set AI doesn't grant any points.Stales grant 1+n points, with n being the amount previous stales in the game.The server offers four settings: strict = < 10 points, standard = < 20 points, lenient = < 50 points, no filter.If you're feeling fancy, add a small log screen to the website that prints something like "pretender for Ulm was rejected at (timestamp): current points X > game filter Y" so it doubles as troubleshooting and as a simple and still anonymous way to figure out how many points you have.You lose 1 / (75 / amount of points you have) point every day, minimum 0,1. This means you lose faster the more points you have, so even a chronic quitter has a chance to redeem themselves after a few months, and someone who simply has a shitty run can occasionally drop off early and not suffer much of a penalty.This way we create a simple distinction between the few people who never quit (useful for the occasional fancy game with more elaborate mods or whatever), the big bulk of the community, and the few quitters who won't cut the bullshit. It's essentially compound interest but in reverse.So if you have 0 points and you quitting a couple times around turn 20, that will set you to roughly 30-50 points (worst case being simultaneous for 20 + (20 + (20*0,5) = 50). It would take exactly 70 days so go from 50 to just below 20 points, and 121 days to make it under 10. That feels quite fair to me, considering the pace of the game. From 20 points to 10 points is also exactly one month. Elegant.A losing rate of 1 / (100 / current points) would make that 93 days to get under 20 and 162 to get under 10. Feels too harsh. Everyone has a bad game every now and then.A rate of 1 / (50 / current) would be 47 days to reach 20 points and 81 to reach 10. Too lenient, in my opinion.
I Femine have saved us from the Tomb Worm menace.
>TURN 44 OF THE ARENAAnother gore tide horror, another free 0,25 points for C'tis.Pyrene goes for another big assault. They cause significant damage, but probably knock themselves out with such a loss at this point. Pretty standard skelly and evospam affair. The foul spawn, surprisingly, held out until their army was already crushed, so they probably weren't the reason for the big rout.As heralded, it was Feminie who finally saved us from the Tomb Worm menace. Aggressive fire spam, elementals, and a couple hard points finally did the lizards in. Victory might have been costly, though. It looks like a significant amount of his troops have been blinded by solar brilliance.No idea what made the crossbowmen die and rout, though. The log doesn't show any messages for the dead ones, at least for the handful I checked.Point for Feminie! + 0,25 for the victory0,5 for Ctis
>>586181590Blood veng killed all of the crossbows probably
>>586181897But doesn't that still print a magic resistance roll in the log?
>>586182018You can see it triggering on all of them with the little red lines in the battle. Also some started losing hp to heat from hell
>>586182868Also I blinded everyone by not realising a astral 2 can't use 3 astral gems to cast antimagic hecking awesome.
>>586183006>forget about a little basic rule>blind your entire armyIt truly is a wonderful game
>>586181590>As heralded, it was Feminie who finally saved us from the Tomb Worm menaceTo be honest previous attempts should get credit too, I was down to a quarter of the Wyrms I started with, Feminie would likely not have managed if it hadn't been for the others shaving off a hundred or two at a time in previous battles and was still at 800 something.
>>586183736You under-estimate how many fire elementals and warrior illusions were on the field.
>>586146673Any goat faction.
>>586184503Gonna have to agree with anon. Feminie printed their own army on the field
>goy cuts my reinforcements off in a surprise move>kill half his army on accidenthehehehe big cocks!!!
>>586193937is it me? It probably is me. I don't regret it though
*cracks whip* That's right, meatbag cucks
My fucking stolen moose
Oh boy it is time for graphs.
Map also has this kind of unreachable cave province.
>>586204083Ur is the threat and somehow Rus has infinite research interesting.
>>586204310Three sites though, imagine.
After 100 hours I've never copied any tendie build, if you win using someone else build it comes across as cuckoldry (respectfully)
>>586204425I don't even know what other people do, I just use whatever dumb idea pops into my head.
>>586204425Same
>>586204425same but without the (respectfully)
Sorry Pan, I somehow sent your coral blade to the AI Caleum. You will receive it in two turns now since I have to reforge it. I've sent you some substituent items I had as compensation, which will hit you the next turn.
Being trapped in a perpetual 2v1 cause elphael left immediately really sucks assLook at all the shit this guy summoned to defend his fort.
you put up a good fight machaka, but the augurs foresaw your doom..(luv me star fires)
I got this game because I like CoE5 but I have no fucking idea what’s going on when I’m playing it Anyway I’m a firm believer that El is the Pantokrator
>>586224332If you played CoE5 you already know the best strat in the game--avoid the other guy's doomstack and just keep capturing all his income (provinces instead of villages).
>>586224332Make big army, put mage in army, put gem on mages, army + mage fight other army + mage. End
>>586188456Toasty
>>586209059
>>586232921repost if youre an evil blood mage who eats larvas
Leprosy
Ermor day is here.
>TURN 45 OF THE ARENAFeminie retreated from the arena, but not before getting a free 0,25 points for an attacking mind slime horror.Agartha arrived next and defeated the small PD and a handful of troops that were left behind without suffering losses, for another 0,25.Lemuria attacked with EVEN MORE grand lemurs than last time, and despite taking big losses - it finally worked! The Agarthan troops struggled against the ghost frontline, and they got ground down little by little through sheer evocation spam.Point for Lemuria, +0,25 for one victory!Agartha 0,25Feminie 0,25
We're approaching the end of the LA arena.To celebrate and unwind, before trying out the first multiprovince arena map, I invite you all to the first sudden death arena.There's only one rule: whoever first captures another nation's capital, wins.Starting next week, probably Friday or Saturday.https://hinaserver.net/game/145
>>586243994How close are the capitals to each other?
>>586245246Standard arena map, so all exactly one indie province away from each other.
>>586245378Flyers and stealthers are going to be op, being the only ones that can avoid the arena to get to an enemy capital.Sounds cool
>>586243994What age?
>>586243994time to pick nazca and abuse flying siege strength to break my neighbors walls in 1 turn in the first year
>>586246320Is this finally the game mode where the Solar Eagle is actually a good pick!?
>>586245762MA, for a balanced approach
>>586243994Where's the duel arena?
Merrow soon
>>586250204It was a fucking mess to organize. I thought about doing a simple 12 turns, pretenders only arena, but why no try something different
>>586243347My strategy would have worked a lot better against anyone but Lemuria. Darkness and Army of Shades to lower their Attack, Curse of Stones to put them on a timer, a bunch of buffs, and flaming crossbows for that extra bit of damage. Most of that is pointless gainst undead with spirit sight, lol.
>>586255764Let Lemuria have one nice day. He's suffered enough
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>>586252948Merrow soon to be publicly humiliated once more when Illwinter releases the next patch and add gnu mounts to Berytos (in wastelands)
>>586259698good
>>586257272Thank you for this weird fish freg
No Ermor posting on Halloween? Wtf
>>586275312
Wind of Death
There's so many globals ive never seen cast even though ive played mp since dom 4.Has anybody ever cast foul air? Kindly ones?
>>586254441>I thought about doing a simple 12 turns, pretenders only arena,Dunno anon but to me this sounds a lot more interesting to me than a sweaty hellbless rush.
>>586243347Don't forget about rigor mortis. Agartha perfectly counters darkness (ignoring my shadow units get dark power), but he can't resist every tick of rigor mortis so I just auto-won when he couldnt clear the ghost horde fast enough
>>586243994Yeah like the other people said it's gonna be a flier or stealth cunt that wins, I'm kinda interested in the outcome but I wont play cause I dont like those types of nations
>>586255764Dark power shadow soldiers and shade beasts so darkness was not only useless but buffing them kek
>>586275459AAAAAAAAAAAAA
STOP LEAVING YOUR TURN UNFINISHED
>>586281381kindly is fairly common actually, there's just a lot of competition but it can be a nice fuck you to blood nations
Does someone have a list of all province types and their home type? Like Land->Plains/Swamp/Forest etc.Also, what transitions are allowed? Plains to forest, coastal to sea, what else?To create a new type I'm guessing you need a full mod not just a custom map?
>>586299690Idk but you can make wastelands with enough death scale
>Make big army Get raided>Make smaller armiesGets destroyed by big armyHow are you supposed to win this
GHOST SLAVES BUT THEY REBEL AND ENSLAVE HUMANS INSTEAD
Trick them into thinking it's small army but actually it big army. Mindhunt the raiders if theyre not astral nation.
>>586308103Dominions is a game you gotta play dirty. You have assassins? Use them. You have sneaky units? March them into their territory and elf them. Can you convince another nation to step in? Do it.
>>586308103Be the one proactively attacking so they're the one having to adapt to your strategy and mixups.
