Turboprop editionPrevious >>582692030A thread for all vehicle simulation games: racing sims, flight sims, train sims, submarine sims, tank sims, anything else sims which do not have enough traffic to sustain their own independent generals.>Extra attention grabbing search terms for example welcome sims/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/>OP Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/TxxE74ja (embed)>Planefag pastebin:https://rentry.co/simg>Tankfag pastebin:http://pastebin.com/EbdtnyPX (embed)>Boat- and subfag pastebinhttp://pastebin.com/JqTQWFFE (embed)>Repository of various aviation related material:https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3EQDvufMNdeTUh4SE9WV0txa0E&usp=drive_web>Example of welcome simsFalcon BMS, DCS World, Rise of Flight, IL-2, Combat Helo, Microsoft Flight Simulator, X-Plane, Euro truck sim, Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2, Live for Speed, SAM Simulator, Steel Beasts Pro, Steel Armor: Blaze of War, Steel Fury: Kharkov 1942, Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum, Silent Hunter, Dangerous Waters, Train Simulator, Farming Simulator 201X, OMSI 2, DiRT: Rally, Ship Simulator>Example of non-welcome games:Arm*, Ac* C*mbat, W*r Th*nder, W*rld of _____, The S*ms, S*m C*ty, G*at S*mulat*r
First post for remembering safety procedures and not raising the landing gear on the ground.
Remember to not grip your stick too hard
>>584552849First thing I do during startup is to switch off the weapon safety. No, I don't care if my aircraft is pointing at you, grow up.
>>584562726Funky livery
>>584563248
>>584564281topkek I've never seen that. Looking it up apparently the warhead would have been fine >The warhead features a safe/arm device requiring five seconds at 20 g (~200 m/s2) acceleration before the fuze is armed, giving a minimum range of approximately 2.5 kilometers
saudi typhoon hit with some shrapnel from an IR missile proxi blast. looks like it perforated the wet wing. i'm assuming the eurofighter's DASS was working as intended and caught the missile before the kill envelope or else the jet would've been ded dedpresumably throttles down, flares, hard to tell if he dropped his load or not but i think he did, banks, runs through a cloud and heads back to arabia. no kill but it's cool to see the pilot maneuver. i think the typhoon has auto-flares. missile looks like it exploded right in front of him, imagine seeing and feeling that shit go off out of the cockpit window kek must've been a pant shitting experience
>>584565762>tfw you'll never dodge heatseekers going mach 1.5 over a desert in a futuristic giga-advanced 9 figure supersonic jetWhat's the fucking point of living
>>584565762He probably dropped his load in his trousers
>>584567037Have you seen this? I wouldn't want to be in that situationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUjX1RntqVw
>>584567230Yeah I'm sure it sucks ass but I would sign up for it if I could. I'm too old now, they won't let me fly a plane for the military
>>584567476You would sign up for sucking ass?
>>584568187
>>584564281Was this operator error, or were the machine gods in a funny mood that day?
>>584567037>>584567476You'd be doing it for israel anyways, ewww...
>start designing a new plane in flyout>>it's just an F16 with a gimmickevery time. i figure just stick another engine in it, add 3d vectoring to em, throw on some stabilators for the fuck of it>gets blasted by an aim120 from 100km awayguess we'll have to make it stealthy too, well shit now it's just an F-22. flyout really makes you feel like a Lockheed blueprinter kek
>>584569297Every plane is just another plane with a gimmick
>>584569649*blocks your path*
>>584570404>MiG-15 but fast and has a pointy noseGimmick
>ready to buy stick>vkb is out of stock>wait a week for restock>ready to buy throttle>winwing is out of stockHow am I supposed to consume chinese products like this
>>584575761Bad social credit>>584576234What happens if you press the cum button?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9n_5TXH9A0
Gonna give 'em whatfor.
>>584587772>LET ME IIIINNN
>>584588084Why did they place the bombs on the wingtips? Surely closer to the other bomb would be better for flight
>>584575761You waited too long, now you're never going to get your HOTAS unless you pay twice as much and wait twice as long for the Lithuania one. Now empty your bank account, and pray the US doesn't provoke Putin in the meantime.
>>584588728the pylons on either wingtip of an f80 could carry bombs or tip tanks. it's not really like a "we should put the bombs here" thing, it was more like a "we could theoretically put bombs here"the manual notes that if you do stick bombs there, it's going to roll like a brick until you drop them. you're mostly supposed to fly it like a bomber until you drop the bombs
Flying DME arcs is hard.Also notice the terrible ILS approach.
>>584590853I've never actually done one, is it quite a shallow bank to keep the distance steady?
>>584576571I didn't press it as I was trying to unfuck my flight plan.
>>584588728>>584589719Not the same attempt, but finally finished the mission. We were bombing an airfield and there was a loud bang at a point and when I looked I lost a piece of plating which was kinda cool.
>>584591467Were you too low when you dropped the bombs?
>>584591557I was very low when I dropped those first bombs, yes.
>>584591994Many such cases
I should fly this baby more.
>>584590853>>584591129Turn 10 (degrees), Twist 10 (degrees)
>>584593046One of my favourite airliners
>>584593218yeah I was watching some old footage of Kai Tak and it reminded me of how cool this thing looks, so I decided to wheel the old girl out from back of the hangar (I had actaully never flown it on the new PC build).God it's so nice to have actual frames.
I wasn't concentrating and nearly hit an invisible wall at 45mph
>>584594983Please tell me the renderer put the markers there and you actually play with them turned off.
>>584595241You can turn them off?
>>584595241>>584595559Had a look through the settings, you can, I didn't know that.
>>584549440virpil r1-falcon vs slaw dora v3??
>>584602524I think you'll be happy with either one. Slaw was the OG combat pedals.
>>584602524I'd just go with whatever uses the same software as the rest of your setup.
Bump
>>584591129Yup, usually flown in segments.>>584593194Care to elaborate ?
>>584637043>Care to elaborate ?https://youtu.be/NtVwTOm-OGk?t=240
>>584591467kek do you keep the JATOs full as an emergency boost or did you just forget to jettison them? I gotta try that.
There's an Alpha Jet for MSFS and I didn't even know, it's had a native 2024 update.
>>584589278I had the wrong region selected, it's stocked, we are all gonna make it
>>584658069Based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7p18wZJaKw&t=6sThis could be fun
>>584638789Thanks, didn't know about this method. I remember reading about DME arc in some DCS document about TACAN so it was doing without ILS instrumentation. The video made me realized I wasn't paying enough attention to the angle with the station. Will try again.
Oh shit the Bluebird 757 is out next week. 2024 compatible with a native build following later.
>>584669745The brown cockpit era was so cozy (recently learned the ATR had one too).
>>584671163It's to hide the skid marks
oh husbant...you spend all our money on Boeing 757 panels...now we are homeress...
>>584638789Ok, I'm getting it.
>>584675770sweet
>>584675770Good job
>>584676397>>584676718Thanks. Found out that if you have some instrument pointing to the direction of the station then you can synchronize the turning speed of your compass so the station always stays at a 90° angle. If you hit the right bank angle then you'll be flying a nice round circle.
>>584679002Is this hand flown or with autopilot?
>>584679104Hand flown (in the very stable Jaguar).
>>584617982what map is that?
>>584669681>>584675770>>584679002yep, feels good teaching the new generation to do it right
>>584686183KHII Lake Havasu
fitter is dead
>>584686639How did you know? It's almost a home base for me, I love the scenery.
All of this can be ignored
>live in the middle of the desert but also on a weird housing estate with artificial riversWhat in tarnation
>>584687452floggerFloggerFLOGGERF L O G G E R
>>584688674I looked it up, it's soulless but also kind of comfy
M̵̨̜̜͖̫̪̹͌́̂͠-̵̭̙̜̠̬͑͝3̶̡͇̦̱̐̉̿͜4̵͔͉̰̣̹̺̞͙̥͛̓ͅͅ6̷̪̪̱̗̱̘̪͆̈̍͒̇͆̄̕͠ ̸̢̘̖̻͖͎̻̫͓̍R̷̨̙̹̘̝̙̦̹̯͘Ë̴̡̢͙̖́͊͌̓́͆͝I̶̝̠̭͉͉̫͖͎̐̒̂͗Ğ̵̡̡͓̗̬͖̗̪̳̯̣͓͜Ņ̵͎̹͉̮̒̃̌́̌͂͆̃͘͜͝ͅ ̵͓̌̉̎̾̈̒͐S̵̨̢̺͖̳̝̤͋̾U̷̹̞̘͐P̷̭͉͚͌̾̊̀͒R̸̠͕̺̣͔̞̭̄͗̈́͒͐̿͝͠E̵̡̖͚͈͖̩͉̥͕̣̰͍̓̓̓̃̔̄̌̄̕͠͝M̶͈̫̭̘̮̻̠̼̓̂̈́ͅE̸͈͎̞̼͗̓̿̔̒̀̏̑̽̈́̎͝
Err lads, are planes supposed to hover?
>>584690271That happens when you mount the propeller backwards
>>584690271An-2 Colt can hover in a good headwind
>>584688841guarantee there was drama to get this project accelerated post-razbam.
>>584692151The AN-2 can probably hover with the engine off
I wish I tried the Mirage 2000 before deciding to never play DCS again
>>584688918Your plane is trying to escape the simulation.
>>584675129I would have imagined 3d printing and cheap solder were the end of sim panels
>>584693952If the headwind is over 43kt you just pull back on the stick
>>584693501I'm just glad they're releasing more 'modern' attackers.
>>584643914Is THAT was those are?? That would've been super handy during take-off, it was almost impossible.
>>584703048They're actually to give you a boost when ramming
This looks awkward
what do you guys think about war thunder
>>584707237The grind ruined it for me, but apart from that I had a bit of fun with it. Fuck knows how long you have to spend grinding these days to reach jets.
>>584707606With premium, it takes weeks/months of intense play to get to top tier and be able to afford the jets. Even longer if you suck.>>584707237War Thunder is the most amazing air combat game I've ever played, but it's the definition of wasted potential and greed. In a different time or a different universe it would be worth your time, but not in this one.
>>584709619Why is it amazing?
>>584703404I usually just leave my shoes on if I need that.
>>584710731The controls are buttery smooth. The sound design is cash. The plane choices are endless. The community is tight as a near-18 year old. The mere suffering of it all, the packet losses, the third party missles, the braindead blues. It makes you wanna end it all, but if you know your aircraft and your enemy and you encounter one bird out there who knows the same, if you come out on top in that dance in a moment of pure victory... There's nothing like it on the market.It sucks, and it is fantastic.
>>584702721I'll take whatever red air we can get, but still wonder if the Su-17 died on the vine or has now just fully transferred to Mag3.OctopusG did great work on the I-16 and La-7, looking forward to their first real fast mover.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZkusZSRfgc
Flare
This is your captain speaking, please prepare to die
>>584739662
I should buy an old cargo plane and live inside.
>>584697359She told me she wants me to be in her cockpit, F̵̢̬̞̝͓̖̤͉̦͇̩̥͔̫̖͍͂̿̒̊́͂̑͆̈́̀̓̂̂͂̍̃͘̕͠Ò̸̝́̓͌͝R̴̞̱͔̠̮͕͉̳͚̟̭̳͖̮͉̺̞͙̉̿̓̄̒͗̾́̌͝͝ͅẼ̵̛̳̼̱͍͈͙̺̹̳̩̱̫̭͓̘̯͉̬̥͙̞̈̀̓̇̂̓̎̌̒͋̇́͋̆̓̍̿͒̍̕͜͝V̶̢̺̮̠̠̠̺̩̱͛̆̿̊̊̈̃̈̐͊͒̓͑͗̀̏̊̆͘̕͝͝Ȩ̵̧̛̯̝͓̳͇̺̰̥̮̦͖͖̦̬̜͓̤̩̖̗̙̭͓́̌͆̀̇̑́̒̆̉̈̍̾͋̏̆͗̆̓̊͗̊̂̂̌̕͘R̶̛̛̛̛͖̼̀̓́̆̎̈́͑̄̀̂̎̈̔̈̂̍͛̈́̀͒͂̊͛̕̚̕͠
Apparently Asobo fucked up drag in SU7 so there's a 7.1 beta to fix it>Fixed a flight model issue that was causing a decrease of drag.
terrain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLE09usd4fssex sounds
>>584766876Also apparently elevated helipads are broken again and the ground effect is excessive, I wonder if that is why the ground effect was ridiculous around that bridge when I tried to land on it the other day>>584463227
Every bloody weekend /simg/ dies. Am I the only person without a social life, or life of any kind here?
>look to see how much>VKB Gladiator>VKB STECS>mounts for them>Winctrl onion + dampener would cost>about a grandFuck, is it worth it lads? That's a lot for bing bing wahoos.
Shit looked fun bump
>>584789186Yeah that's a lot, but everything's so expensive lately. Only you can know whether the investment will be worthy or not (you don't have to buy all at once anyway).
>>584795871True, I don't. For some reason rudder pedals in particular are all £300+ and dampeners add another 50-60, but it sounds pointless getting pedals without one.
You cannot suffer in burgerland
>>584789186>is it worth it lads?nojust get skilled instead
>>584799987Twist rudder is so fucking gay though
>>584787191i just play other games sometimes
pucker factor
>>584812648Wow what's the max flap angle?
>>58481358720° for TO and 40° for LND IIRC.
>>584814962Yeah I thought that looked like 40 degrees, seems a lot for a plane like that.
I was looking at the cities they're going to release for ATS with the British Colombia DLC, it sounds like it's going to be big, but not go all the way up north which is a shame. Still, doing Southern Texas to northern British Colombia will be a long journey.
>>584816182They help with slowing down, which is really needed in the 346.
hello
hey stay up
They might have fixed the G58
>>584687752I've been there,The shape of the airport,The road right next to the airport,The mountains,The shore line of Lake Havasu,The gentle slope from the shore to the foot of the mountains,The fact that it's a desert and empty as fuck,How all those features are oriented together.
>>584862920Based
>>584862920I'm not even a burger but I was looking for random places to fly once years ago and came across Lake Havasu and now it's my 'home'. Arizona is fun to fly around.
>>584854519qrd?
>>584866252Plus your computer doesn't have to render a single tree!
>>584867895vgh the lush forests of Arizona
Finished my Luftwaffe PWCG career, 17th April 1945. Last sortie was a two man interception mission, ended up getting jumped by 7 fighters. Wingman scored one, I got four. My last kill ended up being a midair collision, spent the last weeks of the war in a hospitalWhat career shall I do next
>>584872202Train driver
>>584880482
SWS PC-12 MSFS 2024 native update out on the 30th new flight model/aerodynamics amongst other things.
Revisiting trying to get ChatGPT to make an MSFS livery since it's been updated to 6.0. I'm using the 'thinking' mode and it's taking forever, I've probably killed thousands of trees doing this.
>>584896125The result
>>584897879After some json fixes, this is probably the best result I've had yet but it can never get the orientation right.
>>584899794Actually I suppose it isn't too far off
>>584897879kek
Red is not a pleasing cockpit colour
>>584897879:)
Rate my flying, constructive feedback welcome.
The first M-346 for the Frecce Tricolori just rolled out in Venegono. 19 more to go.>>584899794Impressive>>584905473Great helicopter skills.
>>584909237>19 more to goWait no, the order was a joint order with Austria so add 12 with possibly 12 more to that. Then they'll start with the Canadian school.
>>584872202>What career shall I do nextDo the Desert Bad Guys campaign for either the Nig-21 or the Mirage F1, and let me know how it is (it's on my backlog).
>>584897874Looked like a Descent Freespace screenshot from the thumbnail.
>>584897874Is this Docked?>>584911893kek you're right
>>584866309Lift and climbing were fucked.
>>584924691Both of which are important for planes, or so I hear.
SEEEEEEXXXXXOOOO
>>584810416other games are boring againi've shelved the stealth fishbed for now since i pretty much got it perfect on the first try. it goes mach 1.8 at sea level and mach 3 at 11km, has a radar cross section smaller than an F-35, has two internal 25mm cannons because a fishbed should shoot bullets, and is capable of BVR combat at over 90km and i designed that 90km missile platform for it as well. for being my first plane in Flyout it went pretty well, but jets are easier than propsso naturally my second plane will be a GIGA C-130. 34 meters like the stretched variant... but i want it to be VTOL capable to complement the C-130's current abilities. that will be fun and let me fug around with props and variable surfaces
>>584889008Thats high
>>584787191I too have no life outside work and sim, but I get shit faced drunk on saturndays and I spend my sundays tied to the shitter puking
>>584940496Drunk simming is the life.
>>584940496You're not going to find her at the bars. Trust me, I tried for a decade.
>>584943720I'm running away from her memories
>>584936956engines and control surfaces: configured
>>584948048giant piece of shit actually flies nicely even without fbw setupnow to make it fly like a helicopter
>>584950082Needs more engines.
>>584950082almost there. my rear engines need less authority I think.
Hmm... The p-47 likes its accelerated stalls...
>>584964872>ze dauble skis...
>>584576571>>584591179Shows the total distance it will shoot before it lands, rather than just leg-to-leg distance."It" being the plane.
>>584964872This is uncanny on several levels, congrats.
>>584973892when it comes to airplanes and a limitless budget you are only limited by a little understanding of fluids and your imagination
>>584975698what game is this?
>>584979847Flyout, my friend
>>584975698Now to just fit bombs and gunners on it and it'll be a proper Highfleet aircraft
>>584972769
>>584986504without a boatload of addons it's true.
I sim to keep away the bad thoughts
>>584787191Losing interest in simming to lock in on a 300-hour new game sidequest is a rite of passage in the autumn.>>584945150Never enough booze to get rid of the memories, anon
>>584964872My autism is not strong enough for flyout, the best I can do is sprocket and maybe automation, but I can't make a suspension worth a shit.
>>584987778
>>585008936Why do they have the Walmart logo on their jackets?
>>584997113Simming is the one thing I always seem to be into and never get bored of, I definitely go through phases but I'm never done with it.
>>585021489Nice ride
>>585016737Walmart sells Space/Aeronautical companies in their fresh produce section. 30 days free returns.
>>585029008>passive aircraftA likely story, finish him.
>>585029389I zoomed him at Mach 1 before nailing a perfect landing in front of him. He's probably better off dead now.
On other news I can't see shit.
>>585033536>landing at mach 1
>>585017524Simming never goes away, but there are full seasons where the lights stay off in the hangar.
>>585035208Deep
This webm is in my planes folder for some reason, therefore it's suitable to post.
>>585035208>Simming never goes awayBefore coming back with MSFS in 2024 I hadn't simmed since Flight Simulator 98.It was quite a shock.
why does winwing need my phone number
>>585038902Harro, this is shitty airrines!
climb climb NOW
>>584986504X-Plane 12's depiction is highly unrealistic in this image.It needs an FPS: 18 in the corner.
>>585035375if you're european this season is just regular summer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u7V64QlnPQ
went to make a livery for a plane in msfs2024 and the process is so needlessly convoluted that i uninstalled the whole game out of spite. i can't stand microsoft, i would choke the life out of every microsoft executive with my bare hands given the opportunity
>>585063837Based
sleep time
DONT SLEEP WOOP WOOP
>ironman PWCG career>Flying IL-2s for the 62nd Guards Regiment>Take a direct flak hit en route and get killed immediately on my first sortiePoints for realism I guess...
>>585081235im tired …
>>585063837>went to make a livery for a plane in msfs2024 and the process is so needlessly convoluted that i uninstalled the whole game out of spiteI looked into this before and noped out after hours of frustration
>>585081656Enjoy the posthumous war medal.
>>585081656Let me know if you want me to keep your girlfriend company while you're flying if you really want to crank the realism.
>>585029389OK good.
The Western parts of Spanish Pyrenees foothills are a great place to frolic.
>>584982715>Highfleetwhat's the deal with Highfleet? A while ago I read that there were playable ground vehicles planned but it seems development is completely abandoned? I wanted to give it another playthrough but I'm too uncreative to come up with a different playstyle so I thought I'd wait for the update.
>>585057391kek that's very true, I didn't sim much over the summer as it was so fucking hot. The thermostat in my office says the max temp recorded was 31.8C and that was when I said 'Sod it I'm simming' on a scorching day.
>>585099791Very scenic, seasons in 2024 are a nice touch.
New MSFS PMDG 747 images
>>585103771s h a g
>>585103771747-400 ?
>>585105950The 100 or 400 but I believe PMDG plan to cover basically every variant, even the SP.
>>585105552Those seats look so comfortable, maybe I should look for one IRL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM1KLTGnlAEOh nice, this was fun in FSX
>>585103176>>585099791try going to LESU. It's a cool airport
>>585115879They're great for absorbing fluids
>>585116883I've seen that fucking plane so much over the years of you posting that I can see it when I close my eyes at night. It's always there, watching me.
>>585122104Feel like buying one yet?
>>585121048Ass sweat and landing strips.
>>585123736Nah we're getting the Bede BD-5J instead, sorry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swnR6DQkbGkSneed Power Falklands
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCSUCvev_bI
>>585123976what if we add 2 Bede under each pylon? You could fly the M-346, and your kids go into the bedes.
>>585121048What about solids? Most stewardesses are men these days.
Ah yes, the shit texture county.
>>585131207NO solid loafs, keep it liquid
>>585131606What the hell is going on there?
>>584744382where is this?
Chicago to Barstow in California, this is going to be a long trip.
>>585135415nta but that looks like the coast of florida
>>585132682Not sure, I had seen already a few similar patches elsewhere in China but this is the first time I see such a wide blank area (it was around 60NM SE of Chengdu).
>>585141701Maybe it's just a bug, or something to do with missing satellite imagery.
>don't fly for a week because vacation trip + injury>completely lose all drive to do any simmingGranted, I also kinda lack mostly any drive to play any games, but it's a bit of a bummer because I was just getting into that plane
>>585145839>You didn't fly the planeYou didn't fly the plane
>>585139332the entire atlantic seaboard looks like this desu
>>585149239I like flying in this area
>>585149449
>>585154912The clouds look good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8kDCqe8Fg4
>>585163797What's the state of TCA?
We're back slowpokes
>>585174225dev is still alive and it's getting updates again, but picrel is hijong park's defender patrol
Flight sims are fucking dead
st.petersburg
>>585196176They seem to be thriving actually
>>585196176>He sold his GPUNGMI
>>585199686Il-2 korea is dead>>585199837I own a 4090
will a sideways stick make me feel as cool as it looks
>>585200420>Il-2 korea is deadthey have a big carrier dlc in the works idk what you mean
one bump only please
>>585200420Sorry, didn't mean to make fun of you for being poor.
>>585200420Did Korea fix the AI gibberish nonsense, where American pilots pronounce "radio" as "orareeroo" or whatever the fuck?
>>585163797Missiles simply are an optimized and overefficient way of greeting someone.
>>585201620no>>585215151no
>>585182250I thought you were flying in some extremely realistic snow particle effect before realizing it was just a stray sun ray hitting the dust on my monitor.
Say, what horrors lurk in the shadows of the rear compartment of a CRJ ?
>>585229857Small canucks
>>585229857Is this in the tail behind the rear galley/toilets?
>>585229857Someone definitely stepped on this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAJy89cHFXM>3055 metres downnoice
Oh shit there's a Comet in development
>>585196176>MSFS 24>more players than at release, even console casuals are simming now>X-Plane>eternal development, pure soul and autism>DCS>always 'dying' yet always selling modules>IL-2 Korea>too expensive, too niche, 1C fucked themselves but the tech is good>BMS>new theatres, models, textures, optimizations>solo-dev simlites like Nuclear Option, Tiny Combat Arena, Defender Patrol>Falcon 5.0 and Combat Pilot in dev>probably MSFS 2028 too >more FFB hardware than ever>VR support for everythingEven War Thunder somehow has more players than ever. The genre is doing fine.
>>585240518Is Il-2 Korea actually dead? People have stopped posting it about it here.
>>585241096basically
>>585241320Oh wow what the fuck, 27 players?
>but the tech is good
>>585242946it has better destruction mechanics than anything else out there, but the AI and AI-gen assets in SP are terrible and multiplayer is a ghost town. it's also a dead end historically if you don't really enjoy sealclubbing or riding the prop struggle bus. it also has great visuals. very frustrating experience, you can see the potential is there.
>>585241980keep in mind that they sell the game in their own shop cheaper but yeah, id like to see screenshot of the server browser>>585246683all they had to do is say that they love ukraine and donate 100 dij fpv drones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3M8quFH1RI
>>585250114>pilot farts are modelledI kneel
>>585250114Nice, I appreciate that level of autism. The only aftermarket plane I bought was the Hangar Studios Super Decathlon but I have been very pleased with it as well.
>>585241980I imagine half the players are not using a steam launcher, but even still, it's pretty bad
>>585234465Yeah, there's a (shitty) hinged door at the bottom of the rear fuselage to access it.>>585235784Definitively. But yeah, training airframes suffer a lot.
>>585204467The online is quite literally dead last time i had a look at it
There's basically 22 people playing Korea online right now.
>>585257651
>>585259894Any landing is a good landing
>>585269906
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_SH73QaNVM
>>585270315i can't even manage to fix it. Thranda devs are utterly retarded and their mantra with any issue is "we wanted it to be this way!" in pure xp12 fashion. "it's a feature not a bug!" when you click to move a panel and instead it rotates 90° because fuck you.
>>585273290minimalism innit
>>585274578
>>585274747Why are you even having to edit the cockpit, what the hell is going on?
>>585274747>>585269906This shit better be freeware.
>>585274747Wtf is the loaf of spaghetti
>>585276351It's how Italians make sandwiches
Don't sink
I'm not sure this is going to work lads
>>585256469oh yeah the onlinewell that's their own fault. nobody wants to spend $80 on it. i bet if they lowered the price they'd get some of the russiabad people to actually buy it anyways
>>585274747The vast blue area right in front of the pilot really is soothing, good job, can't wait to see the next improvements.>>585287928The concept is fine, but you need to flap faster.
>>585237290That looks very nice save for the plane's unsettling and gloomy cockpit.
>>585293791>unsettling and gloomya matter of opinion
Big things in the works for the 1946 modding scene...
>>585297385where's that anon who said flight sims are dead
BOmp
helo
>>585259894oi mm'ate, kan'pahh theé
>>585297385Soon big nightmare projects like this can just be handled by AI. It's probably the only hope DCS has in continuing to progress, in fact.
>>585296556>a matter of opinionYou're right. Why must it be so dark though.
bump
>>585258670aircraft carriers will save il2 Korea, just two more weeks.....
>>585274957in the cockpit tablet there was the edit panel section, I thought it would be like the usual stuff of swapping a garmin for a non gps module, but as soon as I touched one of those it slipped behind the panel itself, I tried reloading the 0 preset which I thought would be the base version, but due to them not even properly coding the "hit zones" for buttons it instead overwrote it leaving me with that. >>585276239They have the galls to ask 50$ for something in such a state, not to mention they brag about 8k texture yet it looks worse than the freeware modules for xp10. IMHO aside from a very few modules everything for sale for Xplane is basically a scam where the devs shit out stuff that works worse than a vibecoded project and will never admit to a fault. >>585276351armrest lmao, the first time I loaded the plane I thought it was fishing maggot texture>>585291126Behold, after a skunkcraft repair. Thankfully I try to pirate modules before buying them.
Systems, sweet systems
>>585339559sovl, you don't need instruments
bumo
>>585348397>how do you know your rate of descent during an instrument approach?>You feel it. In your soul.
>>585357923>use a radio tuned into the ILS frequency which turns it into sound>it's discordant if the localiser heading isn't straight, or you're not flying down the two lobes for the glideslope>REEEEEEEeeeeREEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeee>glideslope capturedNo need for a visual indicator, you can just listen to it. I should go to Boeing or Airbus with the idea and make millions.
>>585360903I like the M-24, it's great for sightseeing but it's bloody slow.
>>585361458Yeah, autogyros are a meme. I took it out after that one guy crashed into power lines in Italy (I think), and realized they aren't great. Is that the Florida Keys?
>>585361919Plenty of low and slow airplanes you can fly for sightseeing that have a fixed wing and glide great but I guess part of the appeal of an autogyro is being a meme.
>>585361919Yeah, it's fun to fly around but the satellite water imagery is a bit messed up in parts. I see an M-24 fly over near me every now and then, they sound different to helis, very easy to fly in the game though.
>>585362612You can't hover in them, but they have really low loiter speeds which is good for looking at stuff out the window.
>>585366005The jank is the fun part.
>>585366445This is what I mean, it's worse than this in some areas. A low resolution satellite imagery texture placed over the water making it look naff.
Don't fucking give me hope again
>>585367209That's SOVL anon. Sovl in a 2024 game and you're complaining?
>>585368052That's awesome, and I don't even play DCS.
>>585368876We found the mythical AI derived content game with SOVL.
>>585368876A patch of sovl amidst a sovlless sea stands out
>>585368052you have to be a retard to have hope in a literal map maker dev making a fighter jet module
>>585369798The maps are good tho.
>>585369798>take a building>make it plane shaped>wrap a texture round it>get it flying>bob's your uncleI'm sure it'll be fine when it comes out in 10 years
>>585369969you don't fly the maps, and the maps don't have a radar you retard
>>585370107Who the fuck knows dude ? Maybe they poached devs from other teams. We won't see anything for 5 years anyway, if it ever releases. But call me retard once more if you want, it will bump the thread at least, faggot.
>>585370359>Who the fuck knows dude?shits obvious as day>But call me retard once more if you wantokay retard o7
>>585370359>>585370484You're both retards
This is why some of you guys have no friends btw
https://youtu.be/p4cmaggyMzc
>>585370568We're all friends in /simg/
>>585370750I'm definitely not friend with the discord clique
Look at all my friends I'm flying with here.
>>585370904I'm not even on the server and I've been coming here for years, I normally stay away from discord servers as there's always drama.
>>585370547>>585370568friends keep their friends real anon
>>585372146Beggars can't be choosers
>>585373179stop begging
>>585369798Germany has a lot of vehicle assets, they also did some aircraft for Great Battles
People on the MSFS forums are such drama queens, they're mostly console users complaining about bugs and there's tonnes of 'This is the worst game EVER I'm never playing it again!!!!' posts.
>>585378842Yeah, don't forget also the Random user : "I'm asking out of the blue for something to be changed in this module"Dev : "sorry, this is not planned."User : "This is SUCH as disrespect for the community, developers should cater to the users, I will never buy any of your modules and nobody else should".Though compared with AVSIM, the MSFS forum feels like a heaven of courtesy and friendliness.
>>585380038I stopped going to avsim years ago, it's full of miserable old cunts
>>585378136>Germany has a lot of vehicle assets,how does the cope train get from here to Supersonic, Swing-wing, Radar Equipped aircraft module?>piston>transport>none of the cockpit controls can be operated>in an entirely different simulatorhey at least it has a flight modelOctopusG has 2 DCS modules out rn (both piston) and I don't even think they can manage it, Aerges can't even build a radar outside of Flaming Cliffs and they already made a jet.
>>585378842>console users
>>585378842why would you even read those forums?
>>585389267Patch notes and seeing what bugs people are moaning about, sometimes they're legitimate. SU7.1 is out but doesn't appear to include a fix for the ground effect bug for instance. Unlike the people on the forums though I'm not going to shit myself over it.
>>585378842Huh, I feel like I haven't run into all that many bugs personally. Just the odd goofy thing you expect from so much auto generated stuff like a city bus driving across a runway while I am on short final or some background plane that spawned on the ramp slowly spinning in circles upsidedown with a forklift attached to it. But like, the game crashing or the flight model going insane while I am flying, not so much. Maybe the console port is more iffy?
>>585391550>like a city bus driving across a runway while I am on short finalLol they did that in 2020 too.
>>585391550I seethed last year at all the CTDs I would get playing the game until I realised it was a stick of RAM dying kek
>>585391645>know that the traffic isn't real, it can't hurt you>still shit yourself when you're trying to land
>>585386801https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3m0WpgCbgcUgra has more than a flight model, they have very close connections and possibly some of the same staff as ED's in-house team and operate as an "independent contractor" with plenty of Nickbux
>>585394641>he thinks posting a video of shitty Combined Arms vehicle driving physics (which is just user control of the AI) and making up some random bullshit has any value whatsoever to the topic
>>585392019OH N-
Tbh i think Ugra fucked this dude's wife or something
>>585392019fuck
>>585397257iggers tongue my anus
>>585368052I want the MLD
Anyone used the DCS freeware A-4? How is it?
>>585418010Having flown Heatblur's F-4, I don't like Skyhawk's flight model particularly because it feels artificial, but everything else is solid. Great mod with most of its system modelled and you can do carrier ops on top of that.
>>585396741Belsimtek 2.0
.
TERRAING!
Managed to do my first completely blind ILS landing, in the jaguar furthermore. Almost perfect. Almost.
>>585458817kek
Upskirt F1CT
>>585389696They've fixed it in 7.2 beta
Today I'm installing DCS !>125GB downloadWhat the hell. Is that the weight of the ugly Caucasus, watery Marianias and two free planes ?
>>58547201225GB of game and 100 of 'two more weeks'
>BlueBird has now confirmed that the 757 will just miss its release window. The developer says everyone involved is working to get the aircraft out within the next several hours, and that its next update will be the release itself.Oh dear. Apparently it's excellent in some areas and not as good in others, it's also pricey, and not 2024 native yet.
>>585484064What does this instrument do?
>>585484978That tells you if you are in the airplane or not.
>>585491276A very important part of flying
I'm happy to report my comeback to DCS is going as expected.
bitchcrafts in the air above me, camera too bad to take good pictures
A plane to surpass the M-346
>>585493832Then use your words. Are they elegant or awkward to behold ? What do they sound like ? Do you feel they are watching you ?
>>585495868Not enough engines.
>>585498481Mate this has a 12 (twelve) cylinder engine. For some reason it barely rolls, maybe I need more ailerons or bigger wings.
>>585498775more engines solves all your problems. try a bigger tail and coordinate your turn
>>585499078
>>585499662submarine
>>585495984They look like someone drew a plane from memory, they are trainer planes in all grey. They sound like any light aircraft but they move noticeably faster. There's big helicopters too, might go peep the only base nearby.
>>585476445It's out
It handles like arse but it's fun and goes 200 knots
I'm so good.
>>585516551I might need to use more catalytic converters though as this exhaust looks ridiculous
>>585516797>engine might overheat>I might also freezeNice
>>585517061I reached about 20,000ft, the engine died just before overheating, and then I suffocated and died.
aaaagghhhhh
Went and saw turbomentors, sea kings, c-12s, and an eurocopter fennec today. No getting in the aircraft but petting was allowed and there was a fun with guns table
>>585531479Since you already have attitude hold on, I have no more advice to give you besides git gud.Maybe get a better throttle before the economic crisis hits.
Mig-23 and mig-27 in 2029, hype.
i said hype
Is this a good combo? some might remember i asked about this stick a few weeks ago, today I just found this throttle for $12 at the same local thrift storefor some reason it still has the protective plastic on the screen and everything seems to work, the only issue I notice is that the grip rubber is a bit peeled and sticky
>>585546228Not bad for a start. If everything works, you're set. The stick is lacking in inputs if you want to fly modern shit. But then again, some people manage to play on a fucking controller so heh.
>>585546228The stick has Hall sensors on the X and Y, only the Z axis doesn't so it is guaranteed to die eventually. If you can find some cheap pedals to go with that, then that setup will last you for years. You might have to add a modifier button or two for modern jets, but it's not a big deal.
>>585546751>>585550401seems like everything works wellany idea what should I do with the sticky rubber grip? tried rubbing alcohol and wet wipes but it didn't get much better
>>585556778>any idea what should I do with the sticky rubber grip?Sounds like the rubber is decomposing. I'd either peel it off and stick some tape or silicone sealant in it's place, or just tape right over it. Maybe try hitting it with some acetone on a rag first to see if that removes the sticks part, just be careful because the acetone can haze the plastic.
>>585546228The stick is fine as a starter one, it's what I use. That throttle will be better than the T16000M one which is pretty naff.
Top Mach Studios MSFS news>Gripen E/F won the community vote so that's what they'll be working on next>Su-57 and Su-35 texturing and modelling in process>F-15E and F-15EX in early stages
Henschel VR ops in 1946Good fun
>>585569154Where is your anti aliasing?
Nice weather for flying in Europe today.
>>5853680524YA are closing? Damn.
>>585572131The weather was apocalyptic here last night and I saw a Ryanair flight take off near me, must have been fun onboard with 50mph gusts.
RG550 in it's "final stages" of development.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3M8quFH1RI
>>585572959I love the legacy, used to fly it loads in FSX
>>584582253Something sexual about this if you think about it
>>585578802How do you feel about it?
>>585591032looks cool. especially from the front.
>AMS2>Take out ABS and TC inside the game menu and set the assist to authentic>Cars with ABS/TC no longer have said assists, even though they should>Turn on the assists from the menu again>Cars with no ABS/TC now have working assists, even though they shouldn'tI have no idea what to do. What backwater logic is being followed here?
Time to do so fun little trip, since weather has calmed significantly. Let's do EPSC-EPWR IFR with beyond atc.>N421SV request IFR clearance to EPWR with information mike.>Cleared to EPWR via APNE1D departure. Climb FL100
Short flight so we won't go that high. Cruising altitude of FL300 has been selected in the flight plan.
>Cleared to descend via STAR to 5500 feet, QNH 1001. Expect the RNAV approach, runway 11.
>Cleared to land, runway 11There is some cross wind, but it's not bad. No traffic in sight.
>>585604524do it.
>Taxi to ramp 16 via AThank you for flying with our airlines.
>>585604824It's such a sexy plane
>>585617706You need glasses
Putting a pump after intakes and giving it an extra propeller blade got me to 35,000ft before something bad happened.
rate my takeoff
>>585620562Not bad
>>585618815WHAT? I SMELL GASES?
>>585620108I bet that felt really good for the plane though.
>>585624356It turns out it was overheating, so probably not
>>585620562Nose in right direction, 10/10>>585620901Nose in wrong direction, 0/10
>>585620108You need more propeller blades and a larger turbo. Also, more wings.Trust me, I'm a mechanic.
>>585625667I trust you
>>585627519Thank you. Remember to invest in hydraulics. Airplanes love that shit.
Which games are recommended to get started?
>>585628737Nah fuck it, what's the worst that can happen? An engine explosion taking out all control resulting in a crash? That couldn't happen.>>585629426For planes or in general? If you're asking about flight sims, civilian or military?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5AsT0W-5fYwoops
>>585631557Had many such landings in msfs
>>585632670>taildragger with no tailwheel lock>land>tap the rudder>immediately spin outsad!
>IndiaFoxtEcho warns about new drag-related issues after Sim Update 7.1Fucks sake Asobo
>>585629426Microsoft Word 2008.
>>585629583>Nah fuck it, what's the worst that can happen?Spoken like a true airplane designer ! Yes, away with those ladylike engineers stammering about safety and redundancy and landings ! If your engines haven't quit in a blaze of toxic smoke and fire on top of climb it means you're not pushing them hard enough ! Burn all fuel at once ! That's how they went on the moon !
>>585629426If you want to fly around then MSFS2024.If you want to fight and you're a huge nerd with lot of time and money then DCS, else some version of Il-2 if you prefer it realistic, or Nuclear Option if you don't and only want the fun part.DCS has a couple free airplanes and map and also a generous try before buy system so you can start there and see if that's your thing before shelling hard dough on sim.
>>585629426>Which games are recommended to get started?
>>585639603Click the green button and you're good to go
>>585629426I'm speaking mainly from a milsim point of reference, I never really bothered with the civ stuff. I'm also assuming you don't have much in the way of gear.Despite being old, IL-2 1946 is still a really great game and perfect to start with if you're just getting into sims. It isn't DCS levels of fidelity in terms of flight models and systems/engine management, but still feels pretty 'hands on' depending what difficulty settings you run. It *can* be played via keyboard but I would recommend a joystick. It's simple enough at least that you don't need a sim rig full of buttons, I played it for years on a cheap thrustmaster Hotas X.I'd say the main draw of 1946 is the amount of content and the singleplayer experience, especially once you get into the modding scene for it. A lot more theaters of WW2 are included compared to IL-2 Great Battles; western/eastern front, Mediterranean, Pacific, etc. gives you a wide range of terrain and aircraft to play with, if not necessarily super in depth
>>585657796You gotta polish that wind screen bro.
>>585658109The Polish only do plumbing, my man.
Some simulation games that are on my wishlist:Sea Power Missile AgeGunner, Heat, PCDestroyer U-Boat HunterTask Force AdmiralDrone Sector
>>585658109You're supposed to only wipe one direction too (with the airflow), somebody royally fucked up that canopy.
>>585659292No, those angry slavs will do anything, as long as the pay is good.
Derail Valley update coming before 2028 ? Less likely thank you think.
I have trainsim DLC and friendsimslop on my wishlist
>>585673846WTF is friendsimslop?
should i start with microsoft flight simulator 2020 or 2024?
>>58568368120242020 is dying and inferior on all points.
bamp
>>585666997Release never fucking ever
>>5856836812024 definitely>takes up barely any space>runs better than 2020>looks better, feels better, lots of improvements etc>the last 2020 addons are being released, devs are all switching over to 24 only2020 is still getting sim updates, and even getting 2024 native planes backported in some cases, but I'm not sure when Microsoft will pull the plug on it.
>>5856498181946 has aged really well, it's a great game, I played it so much back in the day but haven't touched it for years.
>>585631557https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWNHiDcJqncThe aftermath, it got the tow of shame to the gate.
>>585678020friendslop but its a simulator
>>585698235Name one game
>>585684767>inferior on all points.except for plane visibilitythey still haven't fixed daytime airplane lights being invisible in 2024 (it's hard-coded to "daytime hours = dim lights", doesn't matter what the actual ambient light level is)Combined with model LOD range being shorter than 2020, and you can't even see a plane on the runway while you're in the traffic pattern (at night you can see its lights)
>>585698419Sailwind
>>585704564That isn't friendslop
>>585704004I don't understand why that lighting bug still hasn't been fixed.>model LOD range being shorter than 2020Is it actually shorter? I know they keep fiddling with it, I think console peasants are restricting it.
>>585370107the hard part is just learning how the game infrastructure works. they're developers, they presumably know how to write code. since they make functioning maps and have worked with the game for a long time i'm also assuming they're familiar with the engineif you're familiar with the engine it's simply a matter of learning how the plane works so you can accurately write it into the gameit's not like making modules for DCS is too difficult in complexity for developers, it's that it's usually more labor than it's worth. they're expensive to develop because they take time and they're niche so the return isn't guaranteed, devs don't want to take the risk or waste the time
>>585386801is going over mach 1 and having wings that move really that complicated to you? radar tech from 60 years ago? this is plane design 101 shit, you think the devs can't simply read a book or two?
>>585724896I used to fly in Norway a lot back in the FSX days, there are lots of fun airfields there.
I flew a real plane (old piper) last summer and I still cringe hard when recalling it. I was so disoriented, the instructor just told me to floor it when we took off and so I did and I think I kept it aligned with the runway but it was so freaking confusing monitoring everything while keeping the plane straight and climbing at a steady rate. Nothing like in my sim.
>>585727041And I mean he just threw me in the deepest part of the pond so I just had to learn to swim right away to avoid drowning. I don't know how flight schools do introduction but I got none, just straight into the fucking cockpit, few rounds on the ground and then takeoff.
>>585727041Why would you cringe about doing something new and feeling overwhelmed? I remember feeling like that back when I was learning to drive, let alone fly.
>>585727041>>585727383you probably acted overconfident and he decided to give you a slice of the humble pie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfSWeZ-5VhY>World Update 23: Poland and the Baltics out for MSFSI thought that came out a while ago but apparently it was due to be out in September but was pushed back.
>>585727584It was a good experience after all and I am glad that I did it but it just felt very unsafe and chaotic and I went in unprepared assuming I'll maybe get to control the plane when we are cruising.>>585727691I tried to be humble.
>>585727824They talk about 'staying ahead of the plane' a lot in aviation, it's normal to be overwhelmed.
>>585727901I actually made a joke about that while we were a bit more stable and cruising. Idk, I had never fucking seen the cockpit layout of that plane so I had to be careful when interacting with any of the knobs/buttons to not do anything stupid.
>>585728026Did the instructor show you how to fit the pissbag? That's one of the most important things in flying.
idk anon this sounds like a normal discovery fight, you probably just got overwhelmedI don't like letting first time students take the controls at low altitude, as there's always a possibility that they panic and lock up on the controls, killing you both.
>>585729684Do you let them land on the first flight?
>>585727041>>585727824I promise you he was right on the rudders helping you out bro, gotta trust your instructor is not going to let you kill yourself. Presumably he also does not want to die right? In fact, he doesn't even want you to damage the airplane as that goes on HIS license not yours.>>585730082I did on mine, also in a cub. Those things practically land themselves apart from the usual tailwheel keep it straight when on the ground bit. Best glide is just trim full back power idle and let it float down. And then to do a nice three point just try to keep it in the air in the ground effect and when the airplane is done flying it just lands.Anyway, don't feel bad, my first 10 hours or so it felt like it took 100% brain power just to not die.
>>585730631>the usual tailwheel keep it straight when on the ground bitWhat is the trick to dealing with that? It feels like even small amounts of rudder lead to losing control. Is it just about making sure you're straight on approach so you don't have to use the rudder after touching down?
>>585730884Literally just getting the reps in, it's all feel. Sims don't help, they are great for navigation and systems training and stuff like that but they don't feel anything like a real airplane close to the ground. I remember overcorrecting a lot at first, and then I would undercorrect a lot and my instructor would wait until we were way the heck off centerline about to go off the runway before fixing me haha. I also switched to Citabria after the Cub went down for maintenance at my school which is a more touchy airplane but I still figured it out eventually. Soloed at 30 hours. The main thing I can recommend I guess is go practice at an airport with a ginormous runway so you can do touch-and-gos and get a buttload of reps in each flight. It's good to do some at small runways to not be afraid of them but taxiing back every time takes way too long. If you go when it is not busy ask your instructor to do fast taxiing too, that's where you punch it like you're going to take off until your tail comes up and then throttle back and fly just the tail with your main wheels still on the ground the entire length of the runway.
The Shittna 172 is coming on well, put still gets two hot even with four gigantic radiators, it needs more tweaking.
>>585727383>I don't know how flight schools do introduction but I got none, just straight into the fucking cockpitWhen I went on a sightseeing flight on a 152 and told the pilot I simmed he let me take off (went left a bit because I didn't use enough right rudder at first) but he had me check only the speed, he monitored everything else. You got a spartan teacher maybe.
>>585730884Oh and uh, you do use the rudder after touching down. In a tailwheel you are pretty much always flying the tail to some extent.
>>585732095Maybe I'm just using too much and overcorrecting
>>585732157Just keep at it. If you can afford it and are not doing it at the moment I highly recommend trying to fly three times a week. It will probably work out to be about twice a week due to weather and scheduling conflicts most of the time if you do this. It really helps in not having to re-learn a bunch of stuff over again if you can fly frequently. Once a week can get really rough because if weather cancels your flight well now it has been two weeks since you last flew. Feels impossible at first but eventually it just becomes second nature like riding a bike. I do not regret my decision to do private in tailwheels, a little steeper learning curve perhaps but everyone says it makes you a better pilot at the end of the day. Besides, once you are comfy with the plane you can do fun stuff that you can't do in a Cessna 150.
>>585732854Jokes on you, I only sim because I'm poor, even though I live 20 minutes away from a flying school.
>>585734619A lot of the zoomers at my school are funding it by working the ramp, dispatch, and maintenance. Big discount for employees, and an A&P can be a super lucrative career itself. I kinda wish I had done that when I was young and poor too.
>>585735163The issue is, say you get your PPL, now what? Renting a plane is fucking expensive. It just seems like a bit of a dead-end hobby to me unless you're very wealthy and can buy your own plane.
>>585735753Personally I intend to make it a career. I'm tired of computer.
>>585736435Good luck to you then, it's not an easy career. Grinding instructor hours sounds shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKdm2xkVZucAn-28 out for MSFS
>>585736623Yeh well, everything worth doing is difficult
>>585579181
>>585736980Wanking isn't difficult
>>585738132Finding a girl worth marrying was pretty difficult. Raising children with her is difficult. No ragerts.
>>585738469>wife kids and making a career out of flyingYou're far too successful for this website
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAo5h1tjlw4Aeroplanes shocked, wind rocks!
>>585731553What are all the extra A-pillars for, deflecting tree branches?
>>585739138We're all gonna make it brah
>>585739706There's no single window pane wide enough for that space unfortunately, there's probably a nicer way of doing it though.
>>585739763You're going to make it and we'll be stuck here playing with virtual planes and our dicks
>>585724896
>>585740939What have you got your LOD set to? It looks low
Reminder that this is /simg/, not /realg/, keep those lived experiences to yourselves.
>>585741108That was Greenland, no better terrain data
>>585741182>that's how we say 'normies get out' on /simg/>>585741385Oh interesting, I've never flown there.
>>585738469As a guy with no children and probably too old to have any now, who is more or less about to quit his girlfriend and who is stuck in limbo with flying lessons I sincerely wish you the best.
>>585742078>quit his girlfriend
>>585742510Yeah, you just bail.
Who needs MSFS? Something is on fire in the distance but it's not my problem.
>>585746191I had no idea this game had volcanoes
>>585746401
>>585746191>Something is on fire in the distance but it's not my problem.That's exactly how I felt after quitting firefighting.
>>585747782topkek
>>585556778>>585558498its the fate of all soft-touch plastic coatings, which is why I hate them. acetone will do the trick.
>>5856205626.5/10, nose angle is a bit steep and I'm not noticing any flaps. Also bad centerline. Pretty good otherwise.
don't sink
>>585777710Damn, Linux Chads live like THAT?!
Beirut at night is my new place to chill.
>>585790158It'd be more comfy if you didn't have to dodge incoming missiles when flying there
The M-346 devs for xplane are releasing a study level ATR-72 module. I wonder if it will be any good.
>>585791084But I can't relax if I'm not fearing for my life at all time !
>>585694373Sim Update 17 is out for 2020 and they've brought over water improvements from 2024, so it's not dead yet. Picture unrelated.
>there's a Chengdu J-36 for MSFSI had no idea, I wonder what it's like
>>585784002Native builds soon. Also mac and modern windows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GzyixDXY4k
>>585694373>>5858025372020 can run on an airgapped machine after the internet dies, it's the AI doomer sim of choice
>>585809339I don't think you can play it if the Microsoft servers fuck up, X Plane or Flightgear are the sims you want for the apocalypse.
>>5858094802020 technically is better than xplane for the apocalypse since the function to save satellite data imagery and photogrammetry is already built in and is pug and play. Xplane needs external addons and a shitload of things to tweak, like linux.
>>585810641Meanwhile Flightgear can run on a potato and looks like a potato too
Don't know if this is the thread for Gran Turismo but I couldn't see anything better in the catalog, but I got a PS2 lately and have been having fun playing Gran Turismo 3. The internet said upgrading the Mazda RX7 would carry me through the game but like hell fucking no, it's got tons of horsepower but weighs far too much. So I bought a Lotus Elise and even with the large drop in horsepower the car being light as fuck has made me much more competitive in races.Fun!
>>585813909You'll want>>>/o/29130731For racing games mostly but they're still welcome here. I've never played GT2 but I still go back to GT4 every now and then.
https://media.il2-korea.com/news/dd_91
>>585820164Nice cockpit, I can't wait to click all the buttons!
>>585820164>No handholdDon't fucking tell me what to do
>>585821114Handholding is too lewd and would distract the pilot
>>585821114Its a plane for true PYLOTS, no handholding here, you casual.
>>585821290Pilates
>>585821467Pilatus
>>585821290In this case I'll rest my feet on it.
>>585822428I 'ate piles
new A2A's plane outhttps://youtu.be/gNvnrVcQ1zQ
>they fly upgraded turboprop DC-3s out to Antarcticabased
>>585821114That's just there to remind incels of what their life is.
>>585823168u wot I didn't it was out so soon
>>585823389today you learnedmust be about time for the summer season down there
>>585823768I hear the beaches are nice
>>585823168Aaaand their website's down.Interesting they didn't send promotional copies to the usual youtubers beforehand.
>>585826439>Interesting they didn't send promotional copies to the usual youtubers beforehand.They're still a stand up company, this is how it's supposed to work.
>>585828159I'm still hesitant about buying anything on day 1 these days as everything has bugs
>>585830128yeah that's still a good move
>>585834638RIP
This is neat
>>585842038My friend gave me a code for IL-2 Korea so I bought some cheap thrustmaster sticks and pedals from ebay to play it. It's pretty fun to learn about the setting and learn how to play. Do you anons recommend the ww1 il-2?
>>585842486>ww1 il-2I've seen people here playing it but I've also heard bad things about it
>>585842486Also, any tips on aiming? I keep running out of bullets. Trying to aim using a stick and pedals is pretty hard, the plane sometimes feel to sensitive when I use yaw left/right
>>585842737I'll try to get it on sale or something since I always see them go fairly cheap. I never got it since I never had equipment to play flight sims. I love the setting and will prob help learn since it's a slower pace
>>585842947You're not supposed to use the pedals to steer, only to counter slip when turning (that ball thing moving to the side) and to keep aligned with the runway for take off and landing.Trying to maintain a steady aim on a a flying machine is like formation flight, which is known for being challenging even for competent pilots. Learn to fly with the minimum of inputs, the more you'll try to correct the more you'll be all over the place.Bullets are in very limited supply inside a jet and you should only shoot short burst at very close range when you're sure you won't miss. Also remember to keep some ammo to defend yourself.Have fun.(Yeah, I know, there were no F-100 in Korea)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0RDavyDjik
Wanna get DCS at one point but I don't have 3,500 for the full game lol. All for supporting a game like that, but I don't think that's even possible. I'm wondering how to approach that game, both as far as what to buy goes and I'm also curious how long it takes to learn how to play the game both in a general sense, and to learn how to fly individual planes, as well as the set up I should have, like if I need a flight stick and such. Also heard there are planes you can no longer get. Is that really true?
>>585844510Are you being serious? You don't need to buy every single DLC
>>585844747I know that well, I guess I'm wording that like a retard. Even buying a few planes costs over 200 dollars is the thing. I don't know what's required to get into it.
>>585844510This >>585844747It's a flight simulator not a gacha
>>585844989Oh right, yeah they are expensive, just do some research and get one you like on sale, but DCS comes with a free plane anyway.
>>585844130Yeah, it's been a great experience so far. I can understand why it's niche genre with prices and what not now. I just put a Korean war mig alley documentary and zone out practicing landing.
>>585844989Base game is free and comes with 2 planes and 2 maps. From there you can try at ease any module for 2 weeks, no question asked. You can have hundred of hours of virtual flight without paying a single buck, should be more than enough for you to know more.
I like the idea of a combat flight sim set in the early jet / super prop era, just well, not Korea. Some fictional conflict with a more balanced plane set than "shitbuckets + MiG-15" and "ground pounders + Sabre"
>>585847272I would support a fictional conflict with real planes
>>585844510>>585844747>>585845015You don't need to buy them all, but you will eventually if the sim bug really gets you.You can spend a few hundred to low thousands of hours just learning the basics of flight, see picrel. That's your baseline.Since you fight other people who are actually competent at flying airplanes, you'll also be spending hundreds of hours practicing the basic maneuvers and energy management techniques you need to survive getting shot at.You're looking at more brute-force practice to nail precision flight skills than in civ sims, especially if you get into carriers, refueling, or night ops.You'll also need to download a bunch of contextual information directly into your head about weapons, military systems, tactics, strategy, and the overall combat environment, assuming you have no prior background.You can grind all of this skill and knowledge out for free in the basic TF-51, Su-25T, and free A-4E mod, but most people are weak and fall for shiny new cockpits instead of putting the time in with what they have. You can buy every module, but you can't buy skill.
>>585847650>you'll also be spending hundreds of hours practicing the basic maneuvers and energy management techniques you need to survive getting shot at.I doubt the average DCS player does that
>>585844510Just start with free planes. You have SU-25 and full fidelity TF-51D Mustang. Also caucasus map which is awesome.
man fs2020's mandatory updates are so fucking annoying, I just want to fuck around man I don't need your update
>>585849256This one improves the water so you'll want it
>>585847763Jumping into a dogfight server and dying for 2 hours still counts.
>>585849673>hundreds of hours practicing being shot down and failure management techniquesbased
>>585849536I just wish they would let you update when you feel like it. Like after I am done, for example.
>>585849884I agree I hate software that forces updates. I had to use a M*c at my previous job which was fucking terrible and it'd just force an update locking you out of the laptop, I missed meetings because of it.
>>585844510Don't play DCS if you can't afford the full game, I don't want poorfags ruining my single player experience.
Atomic Suggestion update WHEN
>>584568730what about against Israelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLkMTDMWJyw
>>585737558Good taste. Even now that she's old she still looks good and homely
>>585877952Here you go:
>>585886903Reminds me of those russians fucks who found some "hot metallic cans" randomly in the snow and used them to keep themselves warm.
>>585844510this image is for you
What is this camouflage even supposed to hide amongst?
>>58589613490's furniture
>>585896134>>585897382kek
>>585844510I have sunk 1200$ into DCS and I wish I hadn't. it's trash
>>585904057Care to elaborate ? What grief did you have with it ?
>>585905453Not him but for the amount I personally spent on it I could have got a way more complete experience in XP12 or even MSFS24. DCS lacks a lot of things and its quite restrictive. The military stuff ended up being a liability in the long term.
>>585907730I agree with this, if you spent that much in X Plane or MSFS you could have tonnes of planes, tonnes of airports, city improvements, weather addons, career addons, ground services and who knows what else. In DCS you just have planes and a few maps. Not to say DCS is bad, but I'm not sure that's a good investment, it sounds like spending money for the sake of it, 'I must have [other plane]!'.
Mr Bean is selling Su35s to Ethiopia!
>>585905453NTA but for me it's not having enough free time to actually learn all of this shit, in combination with the sim itself being dated, barren, and broken in many fundamental ways and the company being run by brain damaged slavic criminals.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VJ7r-2ilWw
>>585907730I've been playing DCS for years, thinking that why would I need civ plane simulator. I have jets, can do patterns, can do everything. I now rarely touch dcs, and use it mostly for helis, because it is superior for them, but I mostly fly MSFS. I have corrected my approach to DCS and instead using it for some epic ground/air battles I've started using it mostly for training and designing some training missions, imitating those from real life. Most fun I've had was on some SAR server with helis, where there were auto generated missions for picking up civilians and transporting resources. Too bad that server died.
>>585907730>>585909840You don't believe the superior fidelity in aircraft systems is worth it in the end ?I'm genuinely curious because I've started learning the F1 in DCS, and while I enjoy flying it I'm realizing I'm more interested in navigation and perfecting landings than blowing up stuff.
>>585909840Whenever I feel an "I must have [other plane]!" I go download it for FSX where there is a basically infinite supply of free planes then get cured of it after shitting around for awhile.
>>585912438The fidelity is amazing, you could buy one plane and study it for the next 5 years if you wanted to, which is even more reason to not spend $1200 on getting all of the planes.
>>585905453I entered thinking it would be a military aviation sim and instead it's a lackluster sandbox where 90% of the stuff isn't really simulated nor working, they expect you to spend months in the mission editor to do anything, and even if you do it's enough for a trigger to not work properly and you have to restart the entire mission. DCS is turning into a pyramid scheme where ED can only keep making money by shitting out half assed modules and terrains and roping other developers in doing the same then abandoning them to make yet another module as actually finishing and improving "old" modules doesn't bring them any money. If you have a plane you're so obsessed about you'd be fine just flying it over and over without doing much of anything else, and you're lucky enough for someone to actually release a study level module (I've yet to actually see a true study level dcs module) then go ahead, but you should enter DCS knowing it's mostly a scam.
>>585914562Yeah, ED should focus on some core elements instead shitting out new planes, which are mostly in EA anyway. Dynamic campaign has been developed for so long that it has become a meme at that point. Besides, there are many things missing from core, like actually passable AI, ATC, weather . You really have to sit down in the mission editor and create something for yourself and mission editor is sometimes so annoying and janky. I think that they will never touch it, because it's hard to monetize it instantly, like selling those modules that are in eternal EA.
>>585915396Everything is EA now, the amount of games I have wish listed and then they all fucking 'release' in early access drives me mad.
>>585915490Yeah I don't understand it. Meanwhile in MSFS single developer like Black Square delivers plane that is a finished product and needs some minor touches in the update. >But anon, MIG-29 has so many systems to develop. We have to develop it for the next century to grant you the best possible experience.>Proceeds to slow down with development of siad module because they need to shit out another EA module with the same philosophy.>Neglects everything but the EA modules which are being neglected over time because they need to deploy another EA module.>Memory leak? We will fix it in the next 2-3 yearsMeanwhile whales are showering them with money and thanking them for existing.
>>585916215I don't understand how Black Square is a single developer, he must have giga-autism to pump out study-level planes on his own. I also don't understand DCS addon devs, everything is in early access and takes years to finish.
It was real nice of Microsoft to digitally preserve the Baltics and Poland before it gets destroyed.
>>585917809really? how many centuries back can it go?
>>585918864
>>585916215When you're in a dry spell of full fidelity military aviation sims, even a cunted BPD whore like ED starts looking good.
>>585912003if you want, some of the PVE servers include a CSAR script that spawns a soldier at the location another player ejects, it adds quite a bit of randomness to their extractions and the rescue can be quite hot depending on how far into enemy territory they bailed out
>>585933513CSAR is never worth many points and won't really help your team win the mission, so keep that in mind if you're sweaty or competitive.Delivering supplies will help to progress most PvE scenarios, but flying in a straight line at 120kts for 30 minutes at a time can get pretty dull
>>585938616>but flying in a straight line at 120kts for 30 minutes at a time can get pretty dullYou'd hate civsims then
Atomic Conundrum should make pilots a resource to incentivize CSAR
>>585941146>>585938616This is what changing the sim speed is for
My steam buddy has insane hours on ETS2.
>>585942748For 8 hours maybe, not for 30 minutes you filthy casual
>>585933513Yeah, I've been doing that exclusively lately. It's fun flying a Huey or Hip into the warzone, pickup soldiers and then run like hell to the base. That's a nice mechanic.
>>585941146Civsimmers miss out on the fun of getting assfucked by an AMRAAM at any given moment
>>585946038I don't want to simulate getting assfucked thank you very much
>>585914562>I've yet to actually see a true study level dcs moduleWait, isn't that supposed to be their selling point ?>>585915396>weatherOh yeah, I had forgotten about the complete lack of atmosphere modelling. They have supposedly the best flight models but the air is always still and static without any hint of turbulence. I remember it was a huge bummer when I realized.
>>585946038my civsim can CTD at any moment, the user experience is the sameyou only lost 30 minutes of flighttime to your amraam
Amphibian version testing going well
>>585950160Please tell me that's an old video, who the hell is still playing prepar3d?
>>585950582guess you just entirely skipped over the GTX 970
>>585950783I was still on a 980ti until 2024
>>585946932It's not about simulating the assfuck, it's about the thrill of trying not to get assfucked.
>>585951715That's one hell of a quote, saved
>>585948232>Wait, isn't that supposed to be their selling point ?"Study-level" is code for cribbing it from Chuck's Guide kneeboards and random youtubers, any broccoli-headed monkey can be trained to remember MFD button press sequences.Nothing in DCS is beyond the difficulty of learning to use a POS system at McDonalds
>>585954446show me the McDonalds with the CK37
>MSFS 2024 SU 7.2 beta>Reverted a change to drag simulation calculations to the pre-SU7 version to ensure backwards compatibility with certain third-party add-on aircraft.So they broke drag, fixed it, and then went back to before both because there were still issues?
Got Friends Piper Super Cub images>five landing gear options>three enginesShould be fun
>>585954446>Implying real MFDs are any harder than their simulated counterparts Aww, did somebody's favorite button not get implemented correctly?
There are so many games based on playing as submarines.What about all of those other ships?
>>585965043There are load of ship simulators in development/early access at the moment, for some reason they've had a resurgence. There are also people now using MSFS 2024 as a ship sim.
>>585965043You mean the targets?
>>585965043flight simulator already exists anon
>>585965043https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA8nexiAtF4
>>585965043too many people get sea sickness through the screen
>>585951072Based, I traded my GTX750 for a 5070 at the start of the year. Had to get a new PSU too.Worth every cent
>>584688841i wont even think of buying a single thing out of Erectil Disfunctioners again until they have the decency to start making an official campaing for the MIG-29FF. Is not even a matter of money, time or manpower. They just don't care. "Early Access" is the "fuck you, pay me" nowadays
>>584787191Too Busy simming and reading manuals. Also re-learning math
>>584789186you dont need more. maybe upgrade after a year of flight-simming. Its the lurk-more of the sim gear kits.
>>585961517Now that's a good looking cockpit. Feel free to write a quick review when you have an opinion on the module.
>>586003447The only issue I see with something like that is that you can't just upgrade piece by piece, you can you replace the stick and throttle at the same time. Plus, ballcrusher pedals.
>>585812172I had terribly performance with Flightgear. XP11 ran way better on my old PC.
>>585714443>I think console peasants are restricting it.The minecraft special. But mobile instead of console.
>>585730631>Presumably he also does not want to die right?You never know
>>585911186I'm jelly. We are stuck with shitty Kfirs
>>586005703Don't worry, $200 FPV drones will clean those up for you.
Has anyone tried the Su-30 / Su-35 freeware planes in DCS?
>>584789186Winwing has its own stecs sized throttle now, $300 for hotas (no pedals). It's not really pocket change but compared against the number of inputs of a $80 ps5 controller it makes some sense for the components
>>584789186i got a thrustmaster t16000 and throttle from a goodwill auction for $50not as good as good brands but $50 is better than $1000. if you've never tried a stick before maybe look secondhand first. can always upgrade in the future
>>586017883Codename Flanker team did their homework, they're good mods.
oh yeah, it's time for a vaguepost
I did not choose to fly at night, the night came and took me.
>>586023359The ursa minor? I haven't looked at that, is it any good?
>>586034702https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SaGF0V0BR4
You knew about DME circles. But how about... DME SPIRALS ?
>>586051015th-thanks approach, i am sure this was necessary
>>586051015>GAAN69 go around
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCZNEo8N6wMrip
>>586056004rip
>>586056004RIP, at least they died while doing what they loved.
>>586056375Colliding in mid-air?
>>586056794Flying
>>586005814I'm not Israeli, my country is just forced to buy them.
Reshade for xplane12 is genuinely a game changer.
>>586057624bullshit, that is real life footage. Insane if real
>>586057782u got me :( the first m-346 for the frecce flew for the first time today. The blue is way too dark and the tricolor on the bottom is barely visible. I hope they will change it.
>>586058053lmao looks like shit, get a better GPU
>>586058204not in this economy kek
>>586056004>https://theaviationist.com/2026/10/29/developing-italian-ch-47f-chinook-crashes-in-bosnia/Also, RIP to an italian chinook that crashed in Bosnia
>>586058613>we live in an economy
>all emails from nigerian princes are scams they said
>>586059391I'm still annoyed they didn't go with the kino livery. By the way we need a new thread and I made this one so you do it.
NEW THREAD>>586062895>>586062895>>586062895
>>586057623>my country is just forced to buy them.I'm American, so same here technically.