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    >>
    I'm having a blast
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    Alliance or Horde?
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    You've been saying this every year for over 10 years now.
    It's a carrot on a stick tactic only the carrot itself (Blizzard) has long since rotted and yet you keep trying to chase it.
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    Did you...boughted?
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    >>750739834
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    >rogues havent received a single update the entirety of the beta
    >sub is still not viable in pve
    >assassinations keystone talent is a dps loss
    >paladins and druids have gotten like 3 reworks
    someone should email microsoft and have them force aggrend to play rogue or warrior.
    >>
    >>750738060
    Me too. Nothing to but blast my dick until my foreveranyl arrives.
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    >>750739713
    This time it's different. This time, it's Forever™.
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    How did the French manage to make the best MMORPG of 2026?
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    >>750737969
    I'm not really sure how much I care about Forever specifically but I'm still waiting for a modern mmo with old-school design and modern aesthetics and Forever seems to be the best chance of proving that model can work
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    >>750737969
    thatll be evercold thoughbeit
    >>
    >>750741561
    evercold is literally just retail wow with catgirls though
    >>
    >>750741657
    retail wow with even less content
    >>
    >>750739713
    the only time I've seen WoW get this kind of treatment was for 2019 classic release, retail expansions don't really have that much hype
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    >>750737969
    Never played WoW before. What's the endgame gonna be looking like? Is it mostly just raiding?
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    >>750737969
    Is anyone honestly expecting this to be more than a "fun for a month until the novelty wears off and people get bored" classic rehash?
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    >Reskinned blue blood elves
    >On both factions
    Kill yourself. Blizzard are niggers.
    >B-b-b-but they wouldn't release a faction only 1 % plays!
    And yet the last two retail races are played by nobody. And nobody asked for them.
    >>
    >>750742235
    >skiggers
    >only 1 % plays
    Pure delusional cope.
    >>
    >>750742298
    Learn to read you fucking retard.
    >>
    >>750742342
    You're an ESL, aren't you?
    >>
    >>750737969
    >hey our MMO died, should we start over learning from our mistake?
    >nah, let's just repeat history all all over again
    Dead game in 4 years tops.
    >>
    >>750742392
    No, you literally have no reading comprehension.
    As in, you're illiterate and/or retarded.
    You see that part, where I'm talking about the last two added retail races? Those are the races that aren't played, not sky niggers. It's about how Fagzard would SURELY not add races played by nobody, yet the last two retail races are exactly that. But in "vanilla +++ gamerfuel edition" they added OC blue blood elves knowing women and fags would play them, instead of a race the community asked for that wouldn't see such success among the player population.
    Do you understand now, or do you need an AI summary with bulletin points?
    >>
    >ogrefags STILL malding
    literally nobody wants to play a fat bald piece of shit, get over it
    >>
    >>750742693
    >But in "vanilla +++ gamerfuel edition" they added OC blue blood elves knowing women and fags would play them, instead of a race the community asked for that wouldn't see such success among the player population
    Yeah this is exactly what I was responding to. You retarded ogrefags pretend skiggers are only played by 1% of the population, but you're full of shit and this is what I said the first time. You just proved YOU are the illiterate one.
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    >>750742849
    personally, i don't want to see them add ANY new races to the game, but i would much rather play as an ogre than yet another faggot recolored elf
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    >>750742925
    Oh, you're just "pretending" to be retarded, my bad. Stay in school sport.
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    >>750741085
    rogue is ALWAYS viable because you can go grief with impunity and that's better than parsing or whatever you zoomers do
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    BTFO of that retard so hard he didn't even have a real retort.
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    >>750737969
    sky elves are dumb as shit, having a neutral race in classic wow just feels so off
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    >Booty calls.
    >>
    >no high elves
    Korean shit like ArcheAge Chronicles will be better than wow flopever.
    >>
    >>750737969
    If you saw this shit and still thought "yep this is going to be classic+, I will pay actual money for this" then you're an absolutely retarded shit-eater who will get exactly what you fucking deserve
    Then you'll come back to /v/ and cry about how blizzard ruined WoW again and never learn your fucking lesson
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    >>750744626
    Why would I see that and not think it's classic+? It's literally new content for classic or, you know, the + portion of classic+.

    You seem really upset at other people for enjoying things. Weird.
    >>
    >>750739834
    Yep.
    >>
    >>750737969
    >We need a neutral elf race otherwise faction balance will be extremely weighted to the alliance
    >Should we do high elves? They can be silver covenant on Alliance and Blood Elves on horde
    >No no no then everyone would play high elves on alliance since Blood Elves aren't new
    >Ok, let's go with darkfallen/undead elves on Horde, they're already canonically in the forsaken anyway so it'll fit in the lore and we can do something else for alliance that's more ugly which should help keep the faction balance
    >No I have a better idea.... BLUE SKY ELVES FOR BOTH FACTIONS
    >Perfect! Make sure their character models, starting zone, equipment, and druid forms don't match the classic aesthetic at all as well and then shove it in!
    >>
    >>750744736
    I also bought that chen figure off of Aliexpress, but how the fuck do you get this staff through his hands without snapping it?
    It's way too tight of a fit
    >>
    >>750744685
    You're right anon
    There's no problem adding in the WoW token, or paid level boosts or store mounts either - they're all literally new things for classic, or, you know, the + portion of classic+
    Anyone who says they don't belong in classic+ is just upset at people for enjoying things
    >>
    >>750744850
    You're such a disingenuous faggot I can only begin to imagine how european you are.
    >>
    >>750737969
    I still want to kill Kil'jaeden and don't how to reconcile with that. TBC classic has been my favorite WoW experience so far since I never got past level 69 in the original. But I want to at least try Forever.
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    >>750744815
    Uh, I didn't buy it off aliexpress it's official but one end slides in the bottom and the other through the top, then it has like a D shape for the match up otherwise it doesn't connect. So look at which way you're pushing it in.

    >>750744850
    You're getting upset about things that haven't happened yet. Weird.
    >>
    There's no convincing the millennial numale retoilet player. They will be NOSTALGIC for wow forever after it's dead in 2030.
    >>
    >>750737969
    Isn't this just vanilla WoW for the third time?
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    >>750744925
    You seem upset. Why not just ignore this and move on?
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    It's amazing how this image not only remains relevant, but gets more accurate as the years go on
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    >>750744893
    I haven't played the game since Cata, I'm tempted to resubscribe to have one more experience with the game. This will probably be the last "official classic" release anyway.
    >>
    >>750744939
    No.
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    >>750737969
    do people really want to play World of Warcraft forever?
    >>
    >>750737969
    Blizzard hasn't made a good game since 1998.
    >>
    >>750744993
    By the time I stopped playing wow I was just hanging onto the death knight fantasy that I found cool.
    I wasn't really playing a MMO anymore. Once I realized that I stopped.
    >>
    I cannot believe this one private server dude has been spamming the same 5 images over and over again in every wow thread for a month now.

    Wild.
    >>
    >>750744685
    >Why would I see that and not think it's classic+?
    Probably the retail elves
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    >>750744993
    The original devs managed to hit that sweet spot for the almost perfect MMO. Considering how many private servers there are, there is a large number of people who just really like it.
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    >>750745039
    >retail elve
    >uses the bloodelf skeleton
    >lore written by Metzen
    >not in retail at all
    If you say so.
    >>
    >>750744993
    Literally millions.
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    >>750745035
    >Someone calls a Blizzard game shit in 2026
    >P-P-PRIVATE SERVERSS!!!
    rent free
    >>
    >>750745076
    I honestly don't care about the blue elves. It's just another cash grab so blizzard can make money. What is going to be extremely annoying is the inevitable cash shop they include in a game you pay a subscription for.
    >>
    >>750745106
    If you think the game is shit why even post in the thread? Like, why are you even here if you don't like a game and have to include the year as well? Which one of us is really rent free here?
    >>
    >>750745154
    That's only an issue to weird kids with fomo. "oh no he has a skin I can't afford!!!!!" who cares.
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    >>750741085
    >paladins and druids have gotten like 3 reworks
    Because Paladins and Druid talent trees were so badly designed they were completely remade in TBC, then again in Wrath. Rogues never needed help.
    >>
    >>750745076
    >>uses the bloodelf skeleton
    Blood elves are from TBC which is retail, the models are from wod which is retail, Metzen writes retail and only retail, the skin colour is from Shadowlands which is retail, and the hair is from Dragonflight which is retail. As a bonus, the voice acting is literally worse than the ones Turtle wow used for high elves, which was some slav smut VA they gave $5 to and recorded in her basement

    Its literally the laziest they could have possibly done.
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    >Blizzard hasn't made a good game in a decade at least
    >Blizzard hasn't shown any promise anywhere in a decade at least
    >Blizzard has been actively and consistently fucking retail as early as TBC (less interaction, more epic corny story telling, less focus on the world, dumbing things down, not giving a fuck about the leveling experience at all, etc.)
    >go on stage and state they suddenly care about all these things
    >millions of retards lap it up
    Can't wait for the threads in half a year when Forever has a massive bot problem, and the game just gets warped into retail-lite.
    Then Blizzard will announce Forever Classic + Extra Special Sauce, and then MMOs will be saved for real this time!
    >>
    >>750745169
    >If you think the game is shit why even post in the thread?
    Because i want everyone to know what I think and i want them to avoid this shitshow at all costs, what a dumb fucking question
    >>
    >>750745196
    I dislike that a game I'm actively paying money to play has even more money gated content.
    >>
    >>750745217
    >TBC
    >which is retail
    >Metzen only writes retail
    Holy Retard. Lmao.
    >>
    >>750745278
    No one cares what you think, and millions are already going to play. So, wasted effort.

    >>750745291
    >skins
    >content
    Lol.
    >>
    >>750745292
    Can you prove me wrong? No you cannot.
    >>
    >>750745332
    I don't need to.
    >>
    >>750744993
    I definitely would have, everything in the announcement seemed great until I saw the Skyborne, at which point I knew Blizzard still has no idea what they're doing, so I will not be playing. I can already see it now:
    >Everyone is happy, people are generally annoyed about getting Skyborne instead of one of the other races that everyone would've preferred but it's a minor thorn in an otherwise enjoyable experience
    >There are obvious bots everywhere that never seem to get banned

    >New update comes out and the content is enjoyable but still lacks the spark, most of the new stuff are just items with extra stats or raid bosses that are more like retail dungeon bosses in terms of mechanics
    >Blizzard announces that they banned all the bots, but you can see more of them than ever before

    >Another update comes out and the new additions are again just additional stats added to the same stuff, maybe another two races that nobody asked for, the new raid/dungeon is engaging but has no charm
    >Blizzard promises they've cracked down on bots and gold sellers + buyers, yet there's always trade chat spam for gold-selling sites and bots jumping between layers at each gathering node

    >Player count will now drop significantly
    >Blizzard adds WoW tokens to "fight gold sellers"
    >Anyone who complains about the bots in general/trade chat gets mass-reported and temporarily suspended
    >Blizzard adds "new anti-bot features"
    >The anti-bot features only ever catch legitimate players, who are then told by AI customer service that they have not made a mistake and the ban is permanent

    I'm no Nostradamus, I just have basic pattern recognition
    >>
    >>750745314
    >No one cares what you think, and millions are already going to play. So, wasted effort
    Thats fine, if I can save just one soul from wasting their money on this garbage, I'll be happy. Now go get your shinebox you dumbass shill.
    >>
    >>750745373
    snore
    >>
    >>750745348
    Everyone else shares my opinions so yeah I think you do
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    I'm going to have a lot of fun and you can't stop me!
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    >>750745391
    For that one soul you "save" I'll spend money on their behalf. I already bought the $60 pack for my friend who's never played before and hes coming over to lan next week. My GF isn't planning on buying it early and just using her sub but I can buy it for her also if you want. Not to mention I already bought the collector's edition. You'll never dissuade enough people to counter what money I could spend out of spite.
    >>
    >>750745217
    >Blood elves are from TBC which is retail
    >>
    >>750745432
    Blizzard will stop you the moment you cast your eyes upon the sky elves and their flying disney ships
    >>
    >>750737969
    It's not going to be classic plus
    It's going to be retail minus
    How have you people not learned yet
    >>
    >>750745425
    no we don't, tbc isn't retail at all retail is post cata bullshit
    >>
    >>750745457
    >Blizzard employee has to buy the garbage he made to keep himself employed
    >>
    >>750745483
    That's a good thing btw
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    >>750745481
    I really don't care man. They're not perfect and high elf would have been better, and their visuals could have been done much better, but I played on turtle and had a lot of fun there.
    Skelves are a bit goofy but far from enough to stop me from having fun.

    Besides, I'm going to ERP with a lot of girls playing skelves!
    >>
    >>750745512
    I don't work for blizzard, I have a normal career that pays me much more money in a LCOL city tyvm.
    >>
    >>750745501
    Anyone with eyes can see the beginnings of 'retail' from TBC, which continued in Wrath. I'd agree that I think 'retail' as most people describe it began in Cata, but nothing happens in a vacuum. Retarded decisions that started in TBC grow and fester, and in part led to what retail is now.
    >>
    >>750737969
    We're so fucking back!
    >>
    >>750745501
    Of course TBC is retail.
    >Flying
    >Arena
    >Tokens
    >Makes old content redundant
    >Ruins lore
    >Heroics
    >Dailies
    >Homogenized class design
    >Adds spells that will get reused literally every expansion until the present

    Name one thing from tbc that isnt retail
    >>
    Vanilla is retail. It was a large departure from Warcraft 3.

    Which was also retail.
    >>
    >>750745574
    >Name one thing from tbc that isnt retail
    Combat Rogues
    >>
    >this retard is still seething over a month later
    >>
    >>750745534
    >I don't work for blizzard
    >>
    >>750745574
    >Name one thing from tbc that isnt retail
    Going through the Dark Portal
    >>
    >>750745584
    Combat was added in vanilla you dumb motherfucker
    >>
    >>750745583
    This, but unironically
    Nothing post WC2 is canon btw
    >>
    >>750745635
    Was Combat in TBC? Yes? Thought so.
    >>
    >>750745620
    >Instanced continent separate from the low level zones
    Thats a retail
    >>
    >>750745667
    It was Warcraft 2 actually which predates Vanilla, ergo Vanilla is retail
    >>
    >>750745659
    So everything you liked from TBC actually came from Vanilla? lol you retard
    >>
    >>750737969
    Kinda worried that the game will be filled with pedophiles, parsers and metaniggers that ruin it for everyone else just like classic wow.

    Whats the play here, just create your own guild?
    >>
    >>750745728
    >Kinda worried that the game will be filled with MMO players
    >>
    >>750745704
    It's amazing how every response is just one retarded response only tangentially related to what you're trying to argue against because you know you lost. Being that butthurt must suck.
    >>
    >>750745829
    >No argument
    I accept your concession
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    >another turtie meltie
    oh my...
    >>
    we are so back...
    >>
    >>750746471
    Yeah i totally believe this
    >>
    OSRS killed runescape private servers.

    WoW Forever didn't kill wow private servers.
    >>
    >>750746529
    I mean it's not something they need to lie about it was extremely obvious.
    >>
    >>750737969
    Reminder that nothing has changed at Blizzard to warrant having any faith in them not ruining Forever. It'll start out okay because it's using vanilla as its baseline and it's hard to fuck that up, but every subsequent update will slowly make the game worse until it's just another retail. They're already fucking it up with changing the genders of characters, removing emotes, over-moderating the game, giving us blue retail elves, and generally not having a fucking clue when it comes to balance. I don't begrudge anyone for playing this as the MMO scene right now is in dire straits, especially after Ashes of Creation exploded, but don't delude yourself about what is going to happen with this shit.
    >>
    >>750746605
    And? If that happens we can still enjoy it until it sucks.
    >>
    >>750745747
    You know that it didnt use to be that way.
    In gw2 the community is also still fine and not like that
    >>
    >>750746684
    Yeah but it's filled with furries and trannies instead
    >>
    >>750746657
    It sucks right now if you're a white man and not some degenerate subhuman.
    >>
    >>750746785
    I'm white and I enjoyed the beta, now what?
    >>
    Zero experience with WoW. I want to gank people so I'm going Rogue. But from what I've researched it looks like the skill trees are a fucking mess and none of the capstones are worth taking. Should I just go mage or something lol
    >>
    >>750746809
    You're not white.
    >>
    >>750746867
    Lol, yes I am. Retard.
    >>
    >>750746901
    No you're not.
    >>
    >>750746828
    Rogue is still fine through the leveling process and ganking will still be fine.
    You play combat while leveling and thats basically unchanged besides some qol stuff.
    Sub still has prep and vanish and blind and all the other tools so you should win every fight you initiate later.
    >>
    >>750746901
    Swarthy skin from an Indian most likely
    >>
    >>750746917
    >>750746940
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    >>750746948
    you can post as many images as you want, you're still not white lol
    >>
    >>750746972
    If that's what helps you feel better at night or whatever.
    >>
    >>750746948
    ewww is that your hand lmao
    >>
    >>750747060
    Yep.
    >>
    >>750746529
    >stage 1: denial
    >>
    >>750746948
    that's a latino hand
    >>
    >>750746901
    >watchnigger
    Your soul is not white
    >>
    >>750747116
    Not even close lol. I'm mostly of Irish descent, with English and German. Here's what I looked like when TBC was out. Latinos don't have hair like this.
    >>
    please stop responding to the soul-lacking subhuman, he does not possess a white soul and he is upset by this and will continue to use this thread as a blog
    >>
    >>750747153
    What's not white about watches? Especially a finely crafted Japanese watch that almost destroyed the mechanical market.

    >>750747197
    Post your skin then. Go ahead. I haven't even taken the easy route of posting my blue eyes yet lmao.
    >>
    >>750747159
    >I'm mostly of Irish descent, with English and German
    that's good american stock. shame about your latino hands/nails
    >>
    >he doesn't know about black irish
    >wants to shit talk races
    Embarrassing
    >>
    >>750746828
    devs have pretty much completely ignored rogue so far. they only do DPS in melee range, they give no buffs, they are lower than most other DPS, they press 2-3 buttons the entire time in pve, only 1 spec is viable in raids, they are mediocre in 1v1 pvp, they are the worst class in group pvp. and anytime anyone complains they are told "Rogues are fine" because everyone is super salty that rogues can hide in stealth and then gank them while they are eating food or in the middle of fighting something else (something druid can do better anyways).

    Blizzard had a whole month to update rogue but havent done it. They promise they will be #1 dps on single target. They promise they will update rogues eventually. but so far more work has been done on say any individual warlock talent tree than the entirety of the rogue class other than some generalized nerfs to rogue scaling. Basically every other class got buffed by like 50% (other than warriors lol) and rogues got their main dps talents nerfed by 50%.

    unless there is some huge rogue update before full release drops its looking like another situation of sod season 2 where the devs said "lets wait and see how this plays out" and it plays out to where its so bad for rogues they are blacklisted from raid invites because they dont do any damage or bring anything else to the raid.
    >>
    >>750747091
    Post the sub numbers then blizzdrone
    >>
    >>750744405
    dumb /wpsg/ tranny
    >>
    >>750747159
    >I'm mostly of Irish descent
    >white
    OH NONONONONONONONO
    >>
    >>750747668
    >stage 4: bargaining
    >>
    >>750744993
    no, but they have to
    >>
    >>750742925
    Jfc you're retarded.
    >>
    >>750745076
    >lore written by Metzen
    You mean the Californian cuckold that changed covered up Sylvanas' midriff because his daughter bitched about exposed skin?
    Or is it the Metzen that regrets calling it "warcraft" because it's too scary of a name?
    He's one of them now fully.
    >>
    >>750745252
    They ALWAYS fall for Blizzard's bullshit.
    >This time it'll be different!
    The eternal refrain of the Blizzdrone.
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    >>750744338
    >file.png
    dumb nigger
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    Blizzard doesn't need to pay shills. WoW is just that good. I will be having a blast, you will be here crying and seething about it :)
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    >>750744993
    only soilennials who grew up playing nothing but that slop instead of paying attention in school, going out and party, getting a gf
    the wow slop trough is all they know
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    >>750746948
    KWAB nice sausage fingers you obese brownoid
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