Without mentioning trans people, what do we think about retroachievements? Is there a way to use it without making an account and syncing shit online?
>t. ranny
>>750735824no there isn't
>>750735824there's no point in playing uncslop without achievements
Fanmade achievements are dumb. They don't have the context that official achievements do.
Shit tier>no damage allowedDogshit tier>play entire game without using the game mechanicsThe autists are loose tier>the above but now there's a time limit and a level cap
>>750735824no and who cares 99% of the achiv are autistic completion shit rather than challenges or new way to play the same game.
>>750736160I don't mind that stuffWhat's really gay is in any fighting, racing, extreme sports, etc. game, they always have>complete the game 100%, do every goal, buy every item, blah blah blah.. with each characterI know THPS2 like the back of my hand and it's still a massive slog
serious question why do you care about non official achievements?
>>750735824Is Pokemon Clover back or are trannies still pretending it'll curse them with an early(er) death?
>>750735824It's great, it makes me go 100% games i wouldn't have in the past. I care about them more than steam achievements or PS trophies for some reason.
>>750736021>>750736298>it has to be official! Uh huh
Retroachievements are better than 'real' achievements cause you get to pirate all the games, there are 0 online achievements, and ps2-below gens are better than modern games anyway
>>750736298dopamine rush when I 100% that game I always wanted to see everything in. shiny badge
>Complete the game without getting hit and only using the starter weapon 3 times on the hardest difficulty (jumping is not allowed)
>>750735824I think achievements in general is stupid and i respect Nintendo for never falling for this bs. It's turned off on my steam
>>750735824I guess you could use it if you wanted to keep track of what you did in a game but even then a spreadsheet is better.
>>750736298I would just want new ideas on how to play old games. I don't care about officiality or even if it's logged online. Looking at some of the site though a lot of achievements are hyper autistic speedrunning esque shit like beat the game with no healing / beat the game with no damage so I don't know if I'd really have interest in it.
>>750736478I scoff and laugh at the youtubers asking "CAN GAME BY BEATEN WITH ONLY X"
>>750735824>trannyACKievements
>>750736365Yes huh. Official achievements for old games are made by people actually involved with its creation.
>>750736365>it has to be official Yeah nigga
>>750736685Shut up
>>750735824Just make up your own challenges. That's what RA is, you're just outsourcing it to somebody else and locking it behind their website. Which is pretty weirdIf it's a matter of laziness just use their achievements and track it yourself
>>750736705How many remasters have you purchased that were not made by the original devs?
>>750735824Couldn't care less.
It's fun. Some cheevos push to you improve your skill or do hidden things you may not realize exist in the game. That said chasing after 100% especially when there's autism cheevos is retarded and I don't do that. Anyways add me bros:
>>750735824I like it. It's mostly just a fun way to track what games you're playing and talk about them a bit. It's great being able to talk about games and know for a fact that other people in the space actually play them. I also like how it's generally really laid back too. Like there are some people that care about cheevos n' shit, but most of the people on the site seem to just care more about just being able to talk and share games with other people that play them. There's a reason why the event pages usually just have very basic achievements that are just an excuse for people to give the game a shot and have a fresh crop of people that are recently focused on it, or why the "Play This Set" section of the newsletter is rarely focused on the set itself and is usually more "this game fun, you should play it and have fun"Will also say, I've seen anyone of repute actually be against it either. The people hating on it are almost always retards that usually don't even understand what the site is used for, or that one tripfag that keeps screeching in these threads about how "I was promised the mastery 3000 years ago, and having tough achievements is anudda shoah, no I won't just play the game for fun and not be an autistic troon REEEEEE"
>>750736998Cute autistic tagline
my favorite retro game :)
>>750737075It's 13 years old boomer.
>>750736309hahaha.....
>It has wii achievements nowHow much further can they go before big N gets angry?
>>750737181i bet they couldve added wii u by now but botw with cheevos would get the entire site nuked
i love how far emulation has come and hope nerds will just start making sequels of old games so i never have to play an open world one againa lot of games on this site have 60+ achievements per game though. if it's a site for people who have probably played the game before, why bother with the generic progression ones?
>>750735824If I recall, they banned Super Mario /v/orld from the service.
The entire verified thing should go. They'll never be able to prevent achievement hacking. Just embrace that people will cheat by making it easier to implement achievement support. All these recomps should have retro achievement support.
>>750736365Yes, it has to. Ask any athlete, artist, anyone who ever took a course. Fan-made = Self-proclaimed = Worthless
>>750735824Imagine not being able to play games without a random dopamine pop-up occasionally appearing every once in a while.
>>750737635>play games without a random dopamine pop-up occasionally appearing every once in a whileSo, the way that 99% of RA's users play?
>>750737075problem with "retro" label is while it can theoretically be applied based on how old the game is, in reality games from the 2010s and on all kind of blend togetherThere are indie games released this year that feel more retro than games from 15 years ago. Considering games are made specifically to feel "retro" it's obvious that "retro" isn't just an age threshold, but games you can tell were made in an older world that no longer exists. But TLOU could've easily been made today (and will probably get another rerelease in the future) so it's not retro
>>750736298Retro Achievements will probably outlast XBL and PSN.
>>750737260no, they just gave /v/orld achievements recentlyhttps://retroachievements.org/game/20066now all 3 games have them
>>750737260I think it was Pokemon Clover they banned, which is weird because how the fuck did Pokemon Clover even get on thereThey should add built-in achievements in the update (never ever) and make sure one of them is impossible to get.
>clover and custers revenge is a nono>princess maker and trans ball is finethonk
>>750738067>I think it was Pokemon Clover they banned, which is weird because how the fuck did Pokemon Clover even get on thereFor some reason Retroachievements turned into a pretty big romhack database. You can downloads tons of patches which aren't available on the usual hack sites or even worse were only released on someone's discord
>>750738321Clover and Custer's Revenge will probably still be unbanned, it's just a slow process
every game has retarded achievements that you need to look up before you play the game or you will miss them, and thats gay and borderline mentally ill
>>750738628Owner is too audience-captured for that. If those games ever get unbanned the owner is going to get a bunch of angry emails and be threatened with cancellation at which point he will relent.
>>750737967>Pokemon Periwinkle was banned just for having Clover devs>/v/orld is completely fineI don't understand RAfags.
>>750736998>casual points
>>750740194Does it piss off xkeeper? >No?They keep it>YesBanned
>>750740006They are already planning to bring them back if you ever checked out discussion in tele's super secret server.I welcome witnessing the freakout over it. That said recently they detransed the transball badge and barely anyone cared so eh.
>>750741128Casual is fine because you can do tricks to control RNG in grindy games like RPGs.
>>750735824Retarded idea, like trying to make fan fiction part of the actual product
most i've seen don't seem to balance normal and autistic too well
I was gonna make an account, then I saw 99% of the sets have some stupidly autistic shit that less than 1% of people would do then I thought why bother
>>750736160>Beat all stages using only Unarmored X (Fourth Armor in intro) on Xtreme, without upgrades, parts or life DNA (One session
>>750741443>xkeeperXKEEPER?!The Sonic Retro faggot? He's part of this?
The UnderTale achievement set was the nail in the coffin, made even more ironic when the set developer attention whored in the forums about deleting their account.
>>750741910All of the X games have bullshit like this. Literally the only thing making me not even want to play them because I can't stand not seeing a full gold bar completion on my profile.
>>750741857I always thought it would be better to have ultra hard shit be a whole different set but nobody does that
>>750738717>>750741857A site that makes autistic achievements.Users that autistically need to go for 100% or nothing.A perfect match.>>750741997xkeepers only involvement is stealing code notes from the site for the cutting room floor and rallying his tranny friends to get clover banned.
>>750741910>>750742036Don't forget this is also essentially no damage runs because sigma bosses will kill you in 1-2 hits without armor or life upgrades.
>>750742084>Wanting to 100% something means you're autisticYou are the stupidest person in the entire thread which makes sense consider you run defense for a looney troon.
Who has ever givin a single fuck about achievements? pointless bullshit
>>750742152Achievements are little more than those shiny star stickers youre teacher used to put on your coloring homework. They have zero value and mean nothing.You are simply so pathetic you need to be pat on the head and called a good lil bitch every few minutes
>>750742152>he's autistic and can't readLet me point it out for your retarded ass, going for 100% is ok, thinking "nah not gonna play this unless I can get 100%" is definite autistic shit you absolute retard who thinks I am defending xkeeper on top
>>750742275Go fuck yourself.>>750742331If the set sucks to complete then that's a failing on the developer's part, end of discussion.
>>750735824>speedrunshit>nohitshit>both at onceYeah nty bro
Just don't finish the set, what's wrong about that.These 3 have mega bullshit acihevements and I'm not finishing it.
>>750735824>"achievements" made by regular people>achievements with many stupid titles that are the creator's way of trying to be "funny" with stuff like wordplay or references to other things>in some cases the creator is actually complaining about the game in casual manner or outright insulting itYeah, I really want RetroAchievements for that.>there's also achievements for super specific things you'd never see officially, or incredibly stupid monotonous thingsRetroAchievements are goddamn stupid, and it baffles me why they appeal to anybody.>>750736365Yes.
>>750743847>Enter whomps fortress holding A and collect the start without pressing A againHow do 22% of people even get this achievement? How hardcore is the RA community? Isn't this speedrunner/dataminer shit? It's so bizarre
>>750742081The failure here is actually not enough sets have enough of so called retarded bullshit achievements and just let you master it for just playing the game.Like tell me, what is a person after if they are actively and constantly chasing achievements on this site? It's either going to be to show off or its purely for challenging yourself because you like that, right? Otherwise just play the game without it. If by chance someone checks your profile, no one is going to care if they see you beat some average game normally. Yet in that same game you did it all damageless or etc? They might.I actually left out a third expectation of why someone is on the site. Someone who treats it like its called RetroTracker and want to see anything remotely gatekeeping them from 100%ing a game for the badge removed.
>>750742084fuckin i was almost thinking that xkeeper was actually an admin there thank godwonder why he hasn't managed to get /v/orld taken down though
>>750744201I think in that specific case it is a challenge set separate from the main one (the main set has at least 60.000 players with one achievement), so it's just 22% of those who tried that set and not 22% of everyone who played SM64Although I though the subsets shared the total players with the main sets, but I guess I haven't checked in a while
>>750736160They have these in the Oracle game sets and I started having fun again with the gamers as soon as I started ignoring themAnd yet its gonna fuck with me not having the full set, fuck my retard autist brain
>>750737926Just think of Retro as retroactive instead of old
Gayest shit ever invented, but troons and zoomers can't play games without le achievements.
Not required.
>>750742152>>750742393You are an autismo in denial. Just don't 100% it, play the game, enjoy what you will have fun with it and stop. It is that simple.It's clear by your attitude and many others I have heard this same story from you rather not play and actually have fun with a game because you go on ahead and check what they ask for in achievements, you see they don't sound like fun, and well since you won't 100% it you choose to 0% it.
>>750735824I do not like the censorship
>>750735824achievementards must be eradicated
>>750745430Actually there is something worse, the insanity of some on RA that actually reset all their achievements for a game because they got cockblocked by something. Actual unfiltered autism.
I used to try to 100% every game I played on RA but what broke me was the Super Mario World set. So many bullshit>Beat this level using the cape but if you fuck up enjoy running all the way back to the donut island ghost house to get more feathers then running all the way backFucking time wasters when you can't use savestates.
>>750745580>Use autistic cheevo site for troons >Be surprised it's autistic time wasting shit Whatever happened to just enjoying games
>>750735824>Letting random people who had no hand in crafting the experience of a game tell you how to have fun
>>750735824I don't care about it at all, it's just more attention whoring.
>>750745665The best part is how the site has a softcore mode that lets you use cheats, savestates and such, you can even mix doing the game half on hardcore and half on softcore but the autism that attracted them to the site in the first place is too powerful.
>muh original developersWhy do so many /v/egans here hate mods/romhacks?
>>750745739Yeah but hardcore mode gives you fancy gold borders and bars.
>>750737075do they use the official trophy lists for ps3 games?
>>750741910Go look at the MML1 set and then look at its subset. The subset was part of the main list for years and yes, I mean all of it. I tried the subset list for fun initially and it took three hours just to do the tutorial one, I can't imagine the sheer misery the final boss one would be. Then there's MML2 which is basically "Lol no damage every boss on the highest rank difficulty with the worst equipment in the game".>>750744578>Although I though the subsets shared the total players with the main sets, but I guess I haven't checked in a whileThose are only the experimental ones that integrate the subset with the main set via the emulator without requiring a custom patched rom just for the subset. That's a more recent thing and very few games have support for that.
>>750745739Oh yeah, worth pointing out softcore is the default mode on emulators. It's just the people who get most invested into the site flip it into hardcore and get ultra autistic about it.
>>750741523>teledidnt he cuck out too? i know one of the mods doxxed another mods newborn and made said mod quit and nothing fucking happened
>>750745834There are no PS3 achievements yet and you shouldn't expect them for years, the site just lists the games. That said, the plan with any game with official achievements is to do their own thing, emulators have the original trophies built in and supported anyway.
>>750736568>I would just want new ideas on how to play old games.I did this with Shadowrun SNES recently and it was kind of fun. I'd always heard about being able to have Kitsune survive in the ending but I never realized it required never letting her die at all after you first recruit her so that was a neat little challenge on a game I'd already finished a bunch of times.I'm not about to sit there and autistically replay boss fights to get shit like "beat boss in 30 seconds with no damage on a wednesday afternoon" but it's a neat way to track progress on things I've been playing or replaying.
>>750745918Dunno about tele, but wes who is one of the only guys who does shit for updating and maintaining RA already shared the plan for making some sort of optional super filter for ""problematic"" games is how clover will be brought back. To be done after the site's ticket system is updated.>>750746032Some of the best achievements are ones that show you cool stuff about a game that is easily missed.
>>750735824We mocked achievements when they first appeared and we doubly mock people for adding them to platforms they never existed on
>>750735824I hardly ever emulate anything besides the very few games that don't have PC or modern console ports, so I don't ever get a chance to use it. That being said, when I made an account and linked it up with my emulators, I noticed that even games like Here Comes The Pain or Pokemon Emerald have like 100-200 achievements. That sounds painful.
I play video games to have fun. I don't see how stuff like this is fun.
>>750746102Achievement count doesn't mean much on how painful something will be. I think its easier to judge by the average mastery time listed on the site.
>>750746160>beat the game using only the x-busterI thought you needed to use Rolling Shield against Sigma's final form because everything else just bounces off?
>>750745834No. The current idea behind it is that RA will have their own set and you can still unlock the original trophies within RPCS3.>>750746102Sets are a bit messy when it comes to quality control outside of "Don't make something obnoxiously bad for the player to do" because everyone has the same argument that "Achievements should be achievements" so it leads to the tedium you end up seeing on a lot of lists because of that awful logic.Some of those 100+ lists are checklists (Digimon World 1 for example) or a mix of an actual list with a checklist (Tomato Adventure), and other times they genuinely are equivalent to something you'd see in a normal retail release list like Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga.Honestly, with the site you have to personally check a list before you decide to do it otherwise you could be committing yourself to a 5+ playthrough game like Castlevania: Circle of the Moon unless you don't care about 100% completion, but you're on the site so you likely do.
>>750746223Charged x-buster does damage, but not effective damage like rolling shield.
>>750746296Huh. Learn something new every day, I guess.
>>750746283>because everyone has the same argument that "Achievements should be achievements" so it leads to the tedium you end up seeing on a lot of lists because of that awful logic.Yeah, expecting achievements to be achievements on the achievement site is truly awful logic.
>>750746412And that's the good thing about Retroachievements, that it usually pushes you to learn new things about a game you love. It's just that 95% of it is autismo shit like beat the entire game in one sitting damageless and without any upgrades.
>>750746545There's a difference between "Beat a boss on X difficulty" and then >>750746160. One is reasonable to ask of a person, the other is a 10+ hour commitment of beating your head against a wall for no reason other than to just say you did. There's a reason why they've been walking back and revising a lot of older lists to get rid of stuff like this and that's because everyone wants lists to be more like retail lists, not these autistic speedrunner-oriented ones.
>>750737967>full completed over 1000 gamesHoly shit what a fag
>>750735824Why trannies love cheevos so much?
>>750746078lol wes just uses AI to do his posting
>>750746623Just because you say that's the case doesn't make it so. There is no consistency you should know that, sets are getting revised right now like Link's Awakening adding "bullshit" people are crying about.And exactly, the point of the site is to either do it for yourself or to show it off if anyone even gives a shit. Yet you and people who think like you on there clearly just want to see the site turned into an automatic tracker for doing the minimum of playing a game like anybody normally would.>>750746654Mastery count is meaningless, there are countless 10 minute games on the site and people like that chase those to inflate their count exactly for the reaction you just had.
>>750746654>Uhm I mastered 1000 video games I am an expert my opinion is fact listen to meew
>>750746751And? He codes with AI too, check the RAWeb github. I'm surprised trannies haven't had a melty over that.
>>750746793>Yet you and people who think like you on there clearly just want to see the site turned into an automatic tracker for doing the minimum of playing a game like anybody normally would.I want to see it like retail lists with interesting side things to do or minor exploits, easter eggs, and mostly 100% requirements, not entire playthroughs of some specific way of playing the game. The FF1 list is filled with that kind of stuff ruining it. I also don't want the retail FF1 list where it's basically just clearing the game and nothing else. At least the RA list has you doing more than the bare minimum but it goes overboard.If you want to do ridiculously annoying requirements that's exactly what subsets are for and the MML1 list is a perfect example of how it should be handled. If you want your super challenging tedium and multiple pointless playthroughs then put that in a subset. The autists will autists. Circle of the Moon is a great example of a bad list solely because of those 4 extra playthroughs that change next to nothing about your playthrough outside of the first hour or so.
>>750735824I like them.Fans make them, so they do a good job.
Not only are speedslop and no-hitslop lazy uncreative trash by its own concept, tracking game time and whether the player has ever been hit is also the easiest shit to setup ever, so it's double the fucking laziness of these niggers.
>>750747075>i want the site by autists for autists to stop being thatI know >>750744328Since you likely won't see an actual site created for your tastes, you and many others want RA to change to a completion tracker, something to just basically guide you on 100%ing a game, do all the "actual content." Nothing to do with actually achieving shit.
>>750747379>Nothing to do with actually achieving shit.You can achieve things, that doesn't mean they need to be absurdly obtuse or irritating. Stop taking the term "Achievement" literally, your logic is what ruined discourse about 360 achievements early on and justified garbage like "Seriously?" and the #1 achievements in Lost Planet or GRAW that literally formed paid cliques just to let others get them. You had idiots arguing that "They're called achievements" so we had the "Go on a 25 kill streak in a FFA game on this specific map" in Halo 3 DLC achievements, and the Master Chief Collection is probably one of the worst lists on the Xbox because it's nothing but hundreds of LASO requirements, sometimes with full teams. No one is saying you can't have subsets with the autistic stuff, just put them there. The main list should be reasonable challenges like avoiding certain gimmicks in certain boss fights or something, or avoiding using some really good endgame weapon for the final boss fight. No damage, speedruns, no equipment stuff, "All White Mages", and so on should be subset material.RA is also appealing to the casual audience and the more that handheld emulator systems come out the more true that becomes so the more these lists have absurdly tedious stuff the more people will complain.
>>750747571Again, you want the site that was clearly founded on appealing to what you dislike about it since quality control is non existent, and hope all of it becomes like the parts you like.Tell me exactly who the fuck is going to care that you 100% MMX's regular content like probably anyone else out there? The reasoning for not moving ""tedious"" (called tedious, but actually really fucking hard) achievements into subsets is because it diminishes the value of what the badge means, and might I add if you are on an achievement site you are probably there to show off. We had the Wii event this year, in the end who gives a shit you got the plat badge for it if everyone will assume you mastered 10 minute Wii slop for it?Oh and don't worry, I know RA is getting more and more popular, and with rising popularity it's likely to want to start appealing to the masses, turning something that had initial focused appeal into a very broad "for everyone" one, the site just becoming auto 100% trackers as you and many others wish? I can see it happening.
>>750736420>there are 0 online achievementsRetroAchievements added support for Ragnarok Online and Final Fantasy XI private servers.
>>750747889>exactly who the fuck is going to care that you 100% MMX's regular contentMe. Because I get these things for myself and seeing hardcore 100% is what I want without having to become the resident expert in that game or go to extremely lengths of repetition to accomplish something just once. The DMC1 list is something I always point to because it wants you to S rank all of DMD whereas the retail list is just beating DMD, something that is already difficult enough even with 20+ hours into the game. I now have to become a speedrunner and plug 40+ hours of my life learning how to execute routes on top of the 10ish hours just normal DMD took me in the retail PS3 release just to do this.Onimusha's list is 1:1 the PS4 list just without the cheese allowed for the highest difficulty (By carrying over the final sword) and like one extra achievement.>because it diminishes the value of what the badge meansWhile also making the subset one significantly more valuable because only a select few people will dedicate the time to get them. By your logic subsets shouldn't exist then as anything going into it devalues the main lost. You should have to collect every piece of furniture in Animal Crossing. You should have to beat entire games with no upgrades using the default weapon. You should have to learn speedrun routes that sometimes are literally WR time requirements (The Superstar Saga escape achievement was initially like 2 seconds slower than the WR time years ago).>We had the Wii event this year, in the end who gives a shit you got the plat badge for it if everyone will assume you mastered 10 minute Wii slop for it?Who cares about the site events? It's literally nothing but grinding for a worthless badge that shows that, wow, you spent 100+ hours grinding games and rushing for a very short time period not even truly enjoying the games because you had to clear the easiest things you could to prove you were there. Good for you.
>>750741857You just don't complete those, OCD kid.
>>750745854Holy shit the first one alone is fucking retarded.
Do trannies really need to delude themselves into thinking they accomplish something when they play video games?Why can't these lunatics just treat video game for what they are, an entertainment mediaBunch of weirdos
>>750741523>That said recently they detransed the transball badge and barely anyone cared so eh.Good to hear they got rid of that garbage. Some of these faggots felt much too empowered after xkeeper's little crusade.Now all I see is one troon having a melty and getting his comment deleted. Not gonna join their discord to see if there is any more whining about it.
>>750735824Don't like penis snippers
>>750748203Ok man, read this https://docs.retroachievements.org/developer-docs/achievement-design.html#challengesAnd this for what subsets are supposed to be used for https://docs.retroachievements.org/guidelines/content/subsets.html Because yes, the site lacks consistency due to how its all community created.I was writing yet another lengthy reply as you have been doing but sorry mate, can't do it anymore. You clearly just want the site to go into a direction it never set it self to and refuse to see it any other way.Look at your attitude to how you view site events too, you are practically agreeing with me but somehow you don't see it.
>>750746658most of them have never achieved anything in their lives, part of the reason for trooning in the first place.
>>750735824It's a good community. Some sets encourage you to play in a way you wouldn't try otherwise. Just a bunch of cool people enjoying their hobbies, like we used to.
>>750749292Even the guidelines don't expect what the old achievements are typically like. Yes, it mentions 1ccing Contra but then also goes on to say the challenges should be fun at the same time and a lot of the time 1cc or damageless stuff is not. It's why they're almost always localized solely to easier arcade games or sub-1 hour games.https://docs.retroachievements.org/guidelines/content/unwelcome-concepts.html#unwelcome-conceptsEven their "Unwelcome Concepts" page that has been added a year or two back has heavily dialed back RNG-focused stuff, difficult challenges, or time wasters, and your own subset list explicitly points out difficult challenges being put into one because they understand their mindset is a bad one.>Challenge: Like bonus, does not require a patched ROM but is opt-out by default, requiring you to opt-in to play. These are typically used when you play the game in a specific way, like low-level/single-member party runs in RPGs, beating a game without weapons, or doing as much as you can before a certain story event.>you are practically agreeing with me but somehow you don't see it.I agree with you that people can trivialize the events with easy game, but my distaste for the event badges comes from their FOMO nature and pointlessness that ruins the experience of the games to even get it. If they were permanent badges I wouldn't care about their existence because everyone would get them and most people would naturally do it for fun, not because they were rushed to get the lower value ones just to obtain them.
>>750736327Because you are a retarted tranny
>>750736327>for some reasonThey actually give a shit about cheaters and nothing is locked from you to play by money.
