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    An account leaked a video with a filter of a new Persona game with characters from the first 2 games: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGIkbY2n_y4
    The video says Persona 1 Remake in the title so it might actually just be an alpha of the first game and they're making models of Persona 2 in preparation, or the uploader just got the video without context and this is actually a crossover game, who knows
    Just wonder which team is making this, did the P4 Remake devs immediately move on to make this or is one of the other Atlus devteams within the Persona Studio
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    >>750735292
    Probably a proof of concept video the Persona 4 Remake team did to pitch this to Atlus, thus why it reuses animations of Persona Remake which is a game that hasn't come out yet
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    The UI looks off to me they don't normally include the turn order and have the character avatar part of the persona, defend etc part.
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    Just want a new Devil Survivor and Trauma Center man
    Is that really so much to ask? The Switch 2 has mouse controls and Atlus now does ton of day 1 PC releases we're in prime time for a new TC
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    I don't know what SMT game to play, I'm interested in Persona 5 but it took me a whole year to beat P3P and almost as much for P4, is there any with the length of SMT IV?
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    >>750735997
    Play Kartia / Rabus by Atlus instead: https://howlongtobeat.com/game/4939
    Around the length of Soul Hackers
    Also if you know Spanish there's the PSP remaster of Devil Summoner
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    Do something with Devil Survivor!
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    Elly sex
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    >>750736467
    Devil survivor really could've been fatlus's next persona had they made more games especially with how popular fire emblem got
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    >>750736467
    Surely the team is making something right? The last thing they did was that Etrian Odyssey remaster but it has been 3 years since that.
    So even if it isn't Growlanser or Devil Survivor I just want to see the team do a new game that isn't a remaster or a remake
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    >>750736596
    You'd think it'd get more nintendo push being a 3/ds exclusive
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    If they're going to remake something it might as well be 1 and 2. 4's remake is a completely pointless cashgrab, Golden is already modernized and it's available on all modern platforms.
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    >>750735292
    I want Nakajima to cameo in a new Atlus game
    He's my favorite school shooter in both novel and gaming history
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    >>750736763
    I'd rather they'd remake SMT 1 and 2, or at least remaster the PS1 remakes to include all the new scenes added in the flip phone versions. It's insane that SMT 2 has yet to get an official translation in any form considering how Aleph shows up in the SMT IV Apocalypse DLC which has an official translation.
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    >>750736763
    I'm honestly a bit surprised it took them this long. It won't be nearly as an expensive an investment as a newer game would be and it would be the perfect easy filler project. something you can give to the B team with a modest budget.
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    >>750735292
    Most likely a pitch, I assume picrel was also that
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    P1 and 2 are not even persona
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    >>750735292
    Honestly I believe it

    Remember the P3remake leak that nobody thought was real? This looks the exact same
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    >>750735551
    >they don't normally include the turn order
    P1 and P2 do though
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    >>750735292
    persona 1 and 2 are more shin megami tensei than persona, I doubt they have the balls to remame them
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    >>750735292
    If they do a remake would they remix the original OST, the PSP OST or both?
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    >>750737345
    They'd just make them more in line with P3-5.
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    >>750735292
    Elly was made for rough hair pulling demon sex.
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    >>750735292
    >no positional mechanics
    >the ranges and uniqueness of weapons and magic types will be removed too
    >probably will have the shitty one more system
    What am i missing?
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    >>750737394
    nta but how would they do that? Their stories don't really lend themselves well to the Persona 3~5 structure.
    I guess they could make 1's combat like the rest of the games and rework the romance and rumormongers in 2 to work closer to social links but that still seems like an awkward thing to do.
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    >>750737476
    You of course mean tender handholding after marriage
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    >>750737296
    Oh really? Show Persona 1 doing that then.
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    >>750735292
    yup, i'm thinking it's kino
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    >>750735292
    Persona 1, 2 and Eternal Punishment are basically a trilogy anyway. If you're going back and fleshing out Persona 1 for a full remake, might as well make them even more of a trilogy.

    Although I buy the theory it's just planned Phantom X assets being used to pitch a Persona 1 and 2 remake.
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    Okay, I'm interested. Every single persona game existing in this form is rather interesting
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    >>750737586
    Doesn't have to flow beat for beat the same as P3-5 just so long as the general vibes are there. They basically just need to reach a point where people will say "this feels like Persona 3-5" and the jobs done.
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    Naoya x Elly x Maki should remain canon
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    >>750735616
    After Soul Hackers 2 it's probably for the better that some things remain forgotten.
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    >>750735292
    Did somebody say Persona 2 remake!?
    In these kiked times, we need a little more Hitler in our lives
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    >hitlersona
    >slutsona
    how would the modern audience react to it?
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    >>750738007
    Germany lifted the total ban on nazi symbols in vidya back in 2018.
    I don't think they'd even have to censor Hitler for a P2 remake at this point
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    >And then Anon just walked up and said "Umm HI" before running off. Can you believe what a geek he is.
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    am I gonna need any other stat for story reasons like in smt or am I fine to just dump it all into dex
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    >>750736467
    man, if only
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    >>750738231
    You won
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    >>750737943
    Soul Hackers 2 was made by the Tokyo Mirage Sessions team at Atlus, imo they're the only genuinely bad team at the studio
    I'm fine with any Atlus IP coming back as long as it is by any other team, hell I'd even be fine with the P5 Tactica guys doing a new IP or taking over one of the SMT spin-offs IP

    >>750738007
    There are several modern games with Hitler and he's a bad guy in Persona 2 so they'd probably be fine with it, the Lisa backstory bit of her using drugs and Satomi as a character is what I'm afraid they'll censor
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    >>750735292
    oh cool, they're ruining their good games too now
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    I know P5 was a massive success but it's getting boring having EVERY game now look exactly like P5
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    >>750738430
    >implying 3, 4 and Raidou aren't good
    >forgetting that 1 and 2 already got PSP remakes making these new ones even more pointless
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    >>750738495
    yyyep
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    Why is Tatsuya in this game again?
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    >>750738648
    He got lost in the sauce after EP
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    >>750738648
    it's a placeholder and this was a vertical slice never meant to be seen outside of atlus
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    >>750738648
    The general assumption is that he's just there as either a placeholder or to show investors/upper management how he'd look in a potential P2 remake
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    >>750735292
    It will be disastrous for P2fags if they ever remake it and the general public learns that its story is just as dogshit as the rest of it instead of the deep, hidden gem P2fags make it out to be.
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    So say we do get Persona 2 down the road. Do you think they would merge IS and EP into a single game or keep them as separate titles.
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    We'll we finally get 3D models for those unintelligible transparent Personas sprites for the first game? Hell I'd love to get a clearer look at the Personas in 2 too, I don't get why they only released concept arts for a few of them
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    >>750738231
    You can just spam Megidola the whole game.
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    >>750738903
    What? 2s story is good.
    >>750738908
    Depends on if they make them longer or not. If they keep the playtime roughly the same they can just combine the games.
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    >>750738908
    Given how lazy and greedy they are I would say separate games for sure. No way they would be nice like that.
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    >>750738903
    copying this post for when dds eventually gets a port
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    >>750736980
    I think we're oversaturated with remakes and would gladly see P1 and 2 not get them at all, I like P1 well enough but I don't think either have that much potential to mine, but an SMT2 remake would be amazing. Tokyo Millennium is such a cool setting.
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    >>750738908
    Leaving them separate would earn them more money so that

    >>750738903
    But Persona 2's story and cast are good, so are every other Persona game aside from everything regarding Yukiko in 4 which felt like cheap writing to extend the mystery longer
    I don't get why everyone gets so tribalfaggy about the stories in Persona but if I had to guess it's probably a mix of deranged Persona 5 "fans" and that journalist way back when that shut on the first 2 games hard only to later admit not having playing them which led to the image of the first 3 games being bad and cause the fans of the first 3 to be extra over defensive
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    >>750739036
    I think people overrate DDS but I can at least believe DDS fans played and enjoyed it. They tend to at least have more to say about its story than P2fags have to say about P2, rarely amounting to more than vague statements about how much better it is than later entries and mentioning Hitler.
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    >>750738231
    You don't need to worry too much over stats if you ask me. They won't impact the game that much when you're just spamming AOE spells
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    >>750737887
    >the general vibes
    anon have you ever played persona 1, its more akin to a fucking horror game than le quirky chungus modern reddit persona, its like making dead space a mass effect game
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    >>750739203
    Horror game is a stretch.
    It's just an SMT game, man
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    >>750739271
    you know what I mean, nigger, you said "keep the general vibes" how the fuck do you do that with a game that wasn't built around quirky chungus school life

    its a litera fucking demonic invasion that warps the entire school, making it "more persona" would inevitably create a retarded tonal shift
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    >>750738309
    I'm putting together a team.
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    >>750739102
    EP's story is okay, mostly because Nyarlathotep is already established and his and Philemon's conflict was easily the best part of Innocent Sin's story, and it has a much better cast than Innocent Sin as well. Innocent Sin's story is awful, so much of it is spent on Eikichi's and Lisa's terrible arcs and the whole amnesia shit is such a retarded and anemic attempt at drama. It's also just terribly told - no good idea is going to land when the storytelling structure is to splice short cutscenes amid mindnumbing, overwrought dungeoncrawling sequences that rarely feel in tune with the narrative.

    Reading about how amazing and underrated P2 and its writing was for years only to get that was one of the most disappointing experiences I've had with a game in my life. That bias adds a lot to my own distaste for it, but it's also remarkable that such an ostensibly off-the-wall story can be as painfully dull as Innocent Sin's is. It's no surprise people harp on about Hitler being in it so much because a JRPG where you fight ancient Mayan wizard Hitler who lives in a UFO with a Japanese city built on top of it sounds like it should be enjoyable just for its absurdity, but the presence of those things ends up being less remarkable than the fact that Innocent Sin somehow manages to make those things as exciting as watching paint dry.
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    >>750739143
    Do people overrate Digital Devil Saga? I never see enough people talking about them.
    Having played them I thought the first game was awesome as fuck but the story feels incomplete, then 2's story has ton of amazing concepts but its story feels rushed, in particular the resistance that one helps.
    As for Persona 2 personally I prefer it over the other 3 (haven't played 5 yet) because the cast are imo the best, Eikichi is just a fun retard and Baofu is hilarious but I wouldn't go as far to say it's better in story and gameplay. The best story is still 3 for me, the gameplay from 2~4 are about the same quality imo but all of them have worse combat than SMT due to being a bit on the easier side and the few difficult fights they have being on the unfair side like the optional Elizabeth and Margaret fights. The only argument I'd get as to why Persona 2 has a better story is the whole rumor system which is a far more interesting setup than any of the other Persona games but the game doesn't do enough mechanically with it, it's cute but it definitely could have been exploited more.
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    >>750739143
    DDS was too terrible for me to believe everyone that sucks it off and it's fucking dogshit story actually played it
    the least I can give it is the setting for the first game and exploring areas in both games were enjoyable
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    >>750739353
    I'm not that guy
    I just took issue with you calling it a horror game
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    How are Caligula Effect and Vilion Code by the same writer of Persona 2 Satomi?
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    >>750739449
    I don't care if you aren't that guy
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    >>750739414
    I wouldn't say people massively overrate DDS, but it definitely has a contingent of fans that make it out to be deserving of more popularity than it got. It does have a lot of key Atlus figures like Kaneko and Meguro at the top of their game, but I don't think it comes together into something that does enough to stand on its own as something really special or feel like the most unique MegaTen spinoff of that era.

    I think it's pretty appropriately rated in general, but anecdotally, I think there's a decent amount of people who think Nocturne is undeservedly the 'definitive SMT' of the PS2 era over DDS or that P3/P4 are undeservedly the breakout spinoffs of that era over DDS.
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    oh hey I'm back in the section where I dropped the game before
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    >>750739561
    Then you are a homosexual man who likes homosexual men, and my mom forbids me from speaking with your ilk
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    >>750738908
    Between P5 and P6, there was P3 remake, Persona Fantasy (Metaphor) and Persona 4 remake.
    Between 6 and the hypothetical 7, they could easily remake 1, IS and EP into their own games and call it a trilogy.
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    People were thinking they were going to do something dumb like add a calendar system to justify having social links which means the entire story would have to be heavily reworked, but I like the idea of them instead adding times that the group takes a break and that is when the social link equivalent stuff happens.
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    >Persona 5 is the worst thing that happened guys!!! The UI's looks all the same >:(
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    >>750739554
    >Caligula Effect
    Awesome
    >Villion Code
    Shovelware, they didn't have enough budget to create a great game and they had to reuse the engine of an already bad game

    >>750739594
    >I think there's a decent amount of people who think Nocturne is undeservedly the 'definitive SMT' of the PS2 era over DDS or that P3/P4 are undeservedly the breakout spinoffs of that era over DDS
    That's dumb, are they just saying that because Metaphor got a similar combat?
    I'd get it if it was a complain about Atlus not doing enough non-Persona spin-offs so they want Raidou and DDS to come back
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    >>750739603
    no u
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    >>750739724
    That sounds cool, basically the Party Talks of Star Ocean
    I guess 1 and 2 kinda did that by having dialogue with the party for each non-battle area which incentivizes replayability since you can't have every party member at the same time, my favorite one of these was Nanjo being royally pissed off for going to the Casino iirc when Maki was about to die.
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    HITTO POINTO KAIFUKU SURU NARA KIZUGUSURI TO HOUGYOKU DE~
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    oh I think I didn't drop the game at the sebec basement but after clearing the sebec building and re-entering the basement because I remember this
    also the psx song for the sebec building is decent
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    >>750740049
    Yeah one of the neat features of the first games was how you could walk around and talk to your party in every room or store. it really gave them some personality so if they lean into these bits it could be something
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    >>750739724
    I was kind of thinking something along those lines too. You already have the chance to talk with party members whenever you stop by a store or whatever, so it would make sense to expand on that and make those into dedicated dialogue scenes.
    From that proof of concept leak, it seems that the dev's planning on leaning in that direction anyway, with them all hanging outside a convenience store after killing some kind of demon in that pic.
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    >>750738958
    you never played it nigger, shut up
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    >>750740298
    I can quit whenever I want. I just don't want to.
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    >>750736763
    I'd much rather have a remake of SMT1. The story and gameplay are absolute ass, but the setting is really cool and exploring it SMTV-sttyle would be sick.
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    >>750740594
    I like how the only canonical trait of P1's protagonist is that he's a gamer, I remember laughing my ass off when I met my shadow despite the scene itself not being inherently funny
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    >>750740551
    I did, and I spent the vast majority of combat in it just using Megidola with Gozu-Tennoh. It's so effective you don't even really need to upgrade to a better Persona to spam it with. It gets you through SEBEC completely mindlessly and it's only slightly less effective on the Snow Queen Quest. P1 and 2 are not hard games, especially not 2.
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    >>750740754
    So how do I get megidola
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    >>750735997
    Play the Digital Devil Saga games, they're wild
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    >>750735997
    How anyone can have SMT4 anywhere near even just C is beyond me.
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    >>750735997
    What a shit list
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    >>750740776
    Just fuse Gozu-Tennoh as soon as he's available, which I don't think is that far into the game. I think I used him on Nanjo most of the time but him or the protagonist will do fine.
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    >>750740906
    I really hope they keep party persona swapping
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    >>750740906
    Alrighty
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    >>750740958
    They should keep it in remakes of P1 and 2 but I think both it and making the protagonist special both feel a bit imperfect to me. P1 and 2 don't benefit much from the customization aspect of it anyway because they're so easy it barely even matters, but even if it's a more freeform system, it also makes characters so malleable that them being their own unique character feels almost irrelevant, they can all function the same anyway.

    I think if P6 tried to build on the sub-Persona system from PQ that would be ideal for the series going forward, you could keep the character-specific specialties and roles based on their stats with the protagonist being uniquely customizable, but you also wouldn't be limiting the party to just being what the game has specifically designated them as.
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    >>750741160
    >>750740958
    Except the party has restrictions to which personas they can use
    You can have a party setup that is completely innacesible to some personas.
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    >>750735292
    Who fucking cares about anything Persona post-5?
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    >>750741271
    Okay. That's still way better than everyone being locked to one and only one
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    >>750741413
    They’ll likely pull a Soul Hackers 2 and make it so skills are character locked, to incentivize tarot compatiblity.
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    >>750741413
    >>750741271
    Yeah IIRC, even the MC has restrictions
    The opposite arcanas are innacesible
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    >>750741745
    yeah you can't just have the main do everything. I swear in 3-5 it feels like I was doing everything in one turn so my party could clean up.
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    Looks cool, I hope it's real even though I never played P2. Certainly more interesting than infinite P3-5 milking while they hold P6 hostage.
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    >>750742015
    Thats just the flaws of the One More system
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    So is Persona 6 coming out next year alongside Persona 4 or in 2028? Because they haven't shown any gameplay I'd assume 2030 considering the original teasers of Persona 5, SMT V and Metaphor but the leaked achievements being 100% done and the leak from the studio that's making cutscenes showing that they had a 2027 estimate as of 2024 makes me hopeful Persona 6 is coming out sooner than later.
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    >>750741745
    The funniest one in P1 is Nyarlathotep because only Reiji can use him and he's a secret character with ridiculous conditions to meet (and Nyarlathotep isn't that good to begin)
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    >>750743046
    All leaks are that it's coming out late 2027. They could push it to 2028 if they want more time but it wouldn't be 2030. They are not marketing P6 because they do not want it to steal the spotlight away from P4R, expect P6 marketing to ramp up only after P4R is released.
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    >>750743046
    Probably P4R in February, P1+2 in summer and P6 in winter
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    >>750743364
    Year of Persona
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    >>750743364
    >>750743597
    The 1+2 remakes could be for 2028. Once hype from 6 settles down they'll have a big nostalgia bomb.
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    my first spell card... pyro jack
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    >>750743364
    >P1+2
    The OP's YouTube video seems to be really preliminary and considering it reuses assets of Persona 4 it's probably the same team, it's much likelier for it to come 2028 or 2029
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    >>750743821
    I mainly put 1+2 before because I think atlus will focus exclusively on P6 once it's out. P4 probably won't have much hype behind it so they can pump out 1+2 faster.

    >>750744002
    I guess so but P1 is a considerably shorter game than most new personas, so if they reuse the engine and persona models from newer entries it shouldn't take too long for a full game. But I guess if you bring in IS+EP it turns into a giant game which could take longer.
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    Persona 1 and 2 (and 2-2) draw no dimes and are not worth a company like Sega to bother revisiting.

    Next thread.
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    >>750744224
    Nigga they made Persona Q 2
    They can remake 1 again
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    >>750744258
    They half assed PQ2. Didn't even give it an English dub
    >Hurr le durr who cares about dub
    I'd say around 70% of Persona fans do
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    >>750744258
    >Etrian Oddysey + Persona 5 spinoff vs Boomersonas
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    >>750741354
    >Caring about Persona post-3
    ngmi
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    People really think it’s a crossover because of tatsuya? It’s clearly the hospital level
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    >Combine 1, IS and EP into one game
    >On NG+ you can use party members from any of those games
    Mite be cool
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    >>750738510
    PSP ports, dumb dumb, over 15 years ago. The games aren’t accessible, one of the 2s didn’t even get localized cause they flopped so bad lmao
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    >>750737780
    Does this imply Mark was able to cure himself fr blackness?
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    >>750745694
    Tatsuya obviously wasn't on Persona 1 and crossover doesn't prevent them from using an old setting, are you retarded?
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    Is Kaneko done penning worldviews and doing character designs for Vidya?
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    >>750735292
    But persona started from 3.
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    >>750735997
    SMTVV should be in S tier
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    >You can miss out on eriko being a party member by letting hidehiko join you
    oh.
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    >>750747169
    Yeah you got limited slots
    Good luck grabbing Reiji
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    God, I fucking hope it's not remakes. The originals are there if you want to play them. We don't need any more zoomers bastardizing older communities and you can still find nice conversation about 1 and 2 out there while everything else is off limits.
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    >>750747214
    I'm seriously debating starting over
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    >>750735997
    The fuck is this lol
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    >>750738309
    I HATED that shit game soul hackers 2. I would prefer them to have nothing to do with it. But. Perhaps they could be counted on for a remake? The hardest part of the stories and characters is done and they have to follow a pattern. Could even the shit team be capable of coloring in the lines and making something worthwhile?
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    >>750747258
    I literally just overwrote a save from before the prison oh my fucking god I should've looked it up earlier when I was wondering why eriko hadn't rejoined the party
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    >>750747258
    You can always pick up Eriko on the Snow Queen route
    You'd need a guide to pick up Reiji and if you knew that you'd have known about the party member limits, so you might just want to keep playing normally
    Even if you play the "optimal" way (ie see every party member) you still miss out on dialogue unless you do multiple playthroughs with multiple configurations
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    >>750747410
    Just make a save before the sebec / snowqueen split and go from there
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    >>750747258
    >I'm seriously debating starting over
    I mean it's not that far in you make your choice. That's one of the things I like about persona 1. In the time it takes you to so much see a persona in the new game you've made your full party and made good headyway into p1
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    >>750747453
    >>750747434
    >>750747498
    I think I'll finish sebec with hidehiko then after making a save before the split on my old 2022 save
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    >>750735292
    Great, instead of doing a decent remake that tries to keep the game as close to the same feeling and tone the original had, in music, ambiance, writing, etc. We get another shitty persona 5 reskin, and retarded persona 5 fans yet again going on about how the old games suck and are just worse versions of 5(because atlus removed all their unique traits to make them that way.). And of course, we won't get any ports of the ps1 games either because of this. Man, fuck atlus, persona 1 used to be the highest selling game atlus made period, and to this day is still the second highest behind persona 5, and it's the first fucking persona game(not counting smt if). It deserve a remake with actual fucking passion, heart, and respect, not this fucking reskin slop.
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    >>750747535
    You are the minority. Persona really created a vibrant and defined style that found its widest audience with 5. It makes sense they would want easy money with remakes of previous games in that same style. For better or worse, persona games are being painted with the same brush, all for the sake of brand identity and sales.
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    >>750747225
    P1 and P2 are too archaic for most to play
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    >>750747535
    The gameplay looks 1:1 with P5 and the new remakes but the cutscene with Mark seems pretty cool. I think it can be a pretty cool remake depending on how they handle it.
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    >>750738495
    >but it's getting boring having EVERY game now look exactly like P5
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    >>750748063
    Look, I can see the colors and font is different but you're really kind of missing the forest through the bright lights here
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    >>750747660
    nta but is it? I beat Persona 1 and Innocent Sin back when I was 14 after having beaten 3 Portable and I had no trouble beating it plus had fun with the. I played Eternal Punishment years later when the fan tl for the PSP released and I thought it was great but enjoyed it less than the other two in spite liking the party the best out of those 3 because there were a lot of optional stuff than depending on luck could get really repetitive, on top of that the Sengoku Persona were really easy to miss and the additional PSP scenario glitched for me making me unable to progress until it unexplaicably fixed itself later after progressing through the main story a lot, all of this made me question if I just had really good luck during Innocent Sin since there wasn't anything I felt that was too luck based. But EP is still a good game and comparatively less archaic than a lot of PS1 games from the times so while I don't expect it to be popular with most people my age (25) or younger I'd say most people into retro RPGs would be fine with them.
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    >>750748116
    How come every time this topic comes up nobody can actually explain their point? Are you afraid of being ousted as a P5babby who never played anything from the franchise prior because you seriously believe P5 was the only entry with style or that it didn't derive anything from the previous titles?
    >>
    Honestly, maybe he should've stayed black?
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    >>750748504
    pay $30 for the revelations outfit pack
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    >>750748504
    Real soul
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    >>750748548
    you mean 35?
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    >>750748232
    >How come every time this topic comes up nobody can actually explain their point?
    Because there's nothing to explain. You just dressed it up differently but it's functionally identical
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    >>750748567
    no sorry i meant 60
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    >>750748504
    Could you imagine how fast threads would have been if black Mark was confirmed?
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    >>750748232
    Your right. Persona has always looked like 5. See this image of P2's UI? Virtually identical.
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    >>750748504
    We can have black Mark but only if we get actual Hitler later
    He still gets his cool shades but he's not called the Fuhrer
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    >>750748626
    >upscaleslop
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    >>750748504
    >>750748636
    >Keep Black Mark
    >Keep in how much of a cuck he is because Maki likes the player.
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    >>750748579
    >Because there's nothing to explain.
    So I can say you're full of shit
    >>750748626
    Lmao
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    >>750748579
    >but it's functionally identical
    Lol no shit, genius. They're menus.
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    >>750748710
    P3 looks almost nothing like P5
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    >>750748710
    I'm not sure you actually understand the conversation. Or words.
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    >>750748182
    For one, they play more like SMT than later Persona series so most are quick to play and give up. And usual with Atlus, there is a lot of miss-able events or things get worse when you complete them (Like making the fairy charging you more)
    >>
    Elly and Maki are so chopped in P2
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    >>750748807
    both look 10x better than the shitty design yukino got
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    >>750748785
    I don't think you understand anything
    >>750748763
    >P3 looks almost nothing like P5
    Yeah because its a PS2 game retard the point is that P5's stylish presentation isn't unique to the franchise at all because every game had their own visual motif
    >>
    the best thing about persona 5 was the UI i don't mind them "reusing it", they should also reuse the concept of "homosexuality"
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    >>750748850
    And non of the remakes have their own. Almost like atlus is just trying to make them as much like p5 as possible and make them overly flashy garbage with no purpose to any of the design.
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    >>750748918
    based!
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    They are not going to keep this one, are they?
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    >>750748951
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    >>750748931
    >And non of the remakes have their own.
    They very clearly do. The only way you can say that is if you think no Persona game prior to 5 was stylish. P4R is completely detached from P5's design motifs for the sheer fact its not cluttering the screen with PNGs everywhere
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    I wonder if they'll incorporate any of Naoya's characterization from the manga.
    >>
    >>750749017
    I mean he doesn't have a lot outside of it so it'd be a solid way to pad out the story. """Kazuya""" could also be a good recurring antagonist.
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    >>750749017
    >shadow in the mirror behind him
    this kind of shit is kino every time
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    >>750735292
    >>750739724
    i need a hd pic of this because it look really cool
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    >>750749167
    eriko too far from naoya
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    >>750749191
    Maki is the main heroine of P1
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    >>750749240
    And the main villain.
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    It saddens me to see positioning completely removed, but I wasn't really ever expecting them to keep it if they did a P1 remake. That said I'm interested that they seem to be doing a P2 style turn order thing, I wonder if they're trying to make the gameplay closer to P2 so they can more easily use this game as a base for a future P2 remake.

    I hope they'll keep party members being able to have multiple personas equipped at the same time at least.

    I actually don't mind the nu-sona "one color focused UI" artstyle change, I would've preferred it if they kept it looking like the PS1 UI but PSP's UI was already dogshit so this is an improvement, and deep purple works well for the darker tone of P1. And all of the character designs look great and accurate to the original so far.
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    >>750749306
    and the main rapist
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    >>750748918
    >they should also reuse the concept of "homosexuality"
    they stole that from 2 already
    actually P5 is pretty shameless about stealing from 1/2
    >>
    >>750749318
    >and deep purple works well for the darker tone of P1.
    And when you want to kick back and rock out
    >>
    Remember when Sakurai BTFO'd oldsona 41%ers?
    >>
    >>750749373
    Based Makotochad tells it like it is.
    >>
    >>750749352
    i've never played them because i'm gay as fuck bro... i'm sorry... and your dick is bigger than mine too..
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    >>750749352
    You know it's kind of funny. I mind P2's ACTUAL homosexual plot, a plot you can actually reciprocate if you want, a lot less then all the bullshit ship bait pandering you see in other series. I guess I can respect them taking a stand and saying, with no ambiguity, Jun thinks your sexy and he wants your body, so come on baby let him know.
    >>
    >>750749373
    sakurai has made a career out of pandering to people who dont play the games
    >>
    >>750735292
    looks like utter dogshit so i believe it's real
    >>
    >>750749373
    I like jokers moveset in smash but his outfits are fucking ass
    >>
    >>750749450
    A believe a ruse would look realer and feel faker. This has a solid, we hobbled it together with existing assets, vibe
    >>
    >>750749403
    *Makotofag
    >>
    >>750749403
    >>750749496
    >makoto
    yeah, you are a fag
    >>
    Can't see them getting approval to remake 1 and the 2 duology without being told by the execs it needs to play and feel more like P3/4/5.
    And at that point you might as well go all in on the remake to the point you're essentially making brand new games if you're switching up shit, which could be a double edged sword depending how trigger-happy they get with the idea of fleshing out the setting an story some more.
    You go all in on trying to make the definitive Persona 1 experience for new players and you end up making it no longer feel like Persona 1.
    >>
    >>750749583
    if youre trying to push that mfs manga name or something, its so irrelevant i forgot what it was. so dont even try
    >>
    P5 derangement syndrome has damaged the minds of you lot if you think P1R looks similar to P5.
    >>
    genuinely what's even point of remaking the earlier games when 3+ completely ignore and retcon their existence?
    up until 3 atlus was building this little interconnected world, you had P1 bringing up both stuff from devsum and IF, connecting them to the SMT world, and obviously P2 being a direct sequel bringing back many characters
    hashino takes over series by literally calling for dumbing down P3 for wider audiences (you can check interviews, it's literally what he pitched for 3) and rewriting setting, but I think the worst part is each game after it still existing in their own little bubble with nothing really tieing them to the previous except a few minor single lines of clapbait, at most you have the shitpost fighting game which who fucking cares about it only happening in spinoff shit
    the only thing I can imagine is maybe they want to bring some characters back for P6 which at that point would feel fucking insulting
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    >>750749679
    >genuinely what's even point of remaking the earlier games when 3+ completely ignore and retcon their existence?
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    I never once used Trish's fountain of healing. Too expensive and I don't like her attitude.
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    >>750749679
    meant P2 bringing up stuff oops
    >>
    >>750735997
    Play the Digital Devil Saga. The first one is goated. The second one is also good, though I liked it less
    >>
    >>750749712
    I've used it twice and you're right this shit is expensive
    also it feels like the demons in this alternate world are twice as strong
    also also it sucks that the music in her fountain isn't as good as the smt3 fountain of healing
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    >>750749771
    why would you lie like this lolmao
    >>
    >>750749679
    Because you can easily get a trilogy of Persona games out to kill time between Persona 6 and 7.
    Frame it as Persona's first interwoven story then edit the story of those three games into something that slips right into your other 4 persona games.
    Congratulations, you've now got a cheap trilogy that will continue to make money while reusing as many assets possible, all while you continue to work on your next big entry for what ever series you're focused on next, be it SMT 6 (lmao), Metaphor 2, or Persona 7
    >>
    >>750749712
    It goes down the more you use it I think but again, you can skate by pretty well on alternative means. I used it a couple times.
    >>
    >>750749810
    Seriously. We had multiple console generations between 4 and 5 and almost as much time between 5 and 6. This is absolutely a easier way to get more games out while you fuck around with the next one.
    >>
    >>750749679
    >hashino takes over series by literally calling for dumbing down P3 for wider audiences
    To be fair they said that in P1 interviews as well
    >>
    >>750749712
    P2 Trish is the hottest persona girl
    >>
    They really are going to call it Revelations aren't they.
    >>
    Massive waste of time and resources because they won't be able to reuse the persona designs anyway unless they just make them the SMT demons instead which would be fucking gay. They should remake Soul Hackers and just call it Persona: Soul Hackers
    >>
    >>750749679
    >genuinely what's even point of remaking the earlier games
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeXatquVqAc
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    >>750749973
    they will reuse them though? DLC and gachaslop
    >>
    >>750749964
    i will always die on the hill that "Revelations" is a kino title and shouldve been used for more of the games
    >>
    >>750750037
    You got what? Persona and Last Bible? I thought there was one more but it escapes me.
    >>
    >>750736596
    Fire emblem is like resident evil, they are so popular because for some reason the competition refuses to do SOMETHING
    Where are the vc2/3 remasters and vc5? Why the fuck won't we get devil survivors ports?
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    >>750749240
    The manga disagrees
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    >>750737780
    No, stop! The kanji is 暇, not 黒! The OCR got it wrong! Stop, don't spread this misinformation! HE'S ASKING IF THEY'RE FREE, NOT IF THEY'RE BLACK! MARK ISN'T DANCING ALL CRAZY
    >>
    >>750735292
    I'm considering playing P1 and 2.
    I grabbed some and I grabbed some mods people suggested for music and I think sprites. Are there any other mods you suggest? On the chance the games filter me is there a mod for filtered people?
    >>
    >Persona 1 and 2 fags finally won... ON FUCKING HALLOWEEN
    I can't... it's simply too kino
    >>
    >>750735292
    Love the style, but knowing the new persona team, it would be sanitized to all hell and look lifeless like the P3 and P4 remakes.
    >>
    >>750750361
    IT'S A HALLOWEEN MACKERAL!
    >>
    >>750749627
    it just sounds better
    >>
    >>750749041
    >Spoiler
    Was Piercing-kun's/Naoya's shadow antagonistic to begin with? My memory on the manga adaptation is hazy but it seemed to just want to laze around and play vidyas, while leaving the bothersome stuff like rescuing girls for the MC to deal with.
    >>
    what are the odds that snow queen and EP are DLC
    >>
    >>750735292
    Personastartedat3fags BTFO
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    >>750750959
    i just ran the numbers but you'll never get them out of me
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    >>750750928
    He had the gambling monkey and didn't want to deal with shit. The manga gave him a complex about his dead brother he blames himself for dying.
    >>
    I really, really hope they bring Tadashi back as a writer. Everything he's written has absolutely mogged all of nu-sona. And we need to see more of his self-insert fucking Tamaki to make waifufags seethe.
    >>
    >>750751145
    >Everything he's written has absolutely mogged all of nu-sona
    And other lies you keep telling yourself.
    >>
    >>750735292
    The UI looks so fucking ugly oh my god
    I fucking hate Persona 5 for encouraging these retard devs to have every single menu be flashy and clustered for the TikTok crowd
    >>
    >>750750361
    >won
    >>
    >>750751145
    Every time I see this kind of post I assume it's Tadashi himself writing it and it makes me chuckle
    >>
    >>750751558
    Persona's writing after 2 is garbage, cope.

    >>750751668
    Why yes I do fuck Tamaki every night, how did you know? Wonder if they'll ever consider doing a If... remake in the future, but we probably missed the chance for SNES era SMT remakes after the 3DS era where they could've made them for cheap re-using the EO engine.
    >>
    >>750751803
    P1 has worse writing than any of the games and P3 and P4 have better stories and characters. P5 is the only game you can make a case for and even then the first arc and the third semester have great writing that easily trumps the older games. There is a reason people say Persona started at 3.
    >>
    Will they shove romance into a oldsona? I've heard people ship the protag with two girls.
    >>
    >>750752050
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    >>750752094
    So what's the deal here? Betty and Veronica?
    >>
    >>750752021
    >There is a reason people say Persona started at 3.
    Yes, people are retarded
    >>
    >>750752128
    More or less
    >>
    >>750752094
    Adult maki roll mogs
    >>
    >>750751145
    Low bar
    >>
    >>750752234
    Adult Maki looks like my lesbian aunt.
    >>
    >Modernsona, but with old school moon cycles, no calendar and everyone can switch Personas
    Sounds good, what's the catch?
    >>
    >>750752351
    Mark has sex with the main love interest behind your back.
    >>
    >>750752401
    Mark's whole entire character arc is about being a cuck
    >>
    >>750748710
    I never played reload, but I still miss the revolver cylinder menu. Even though the envokers aren't revolvers, it just fits with the style well to me somehow
    >>
    Makoto for P1 superboss
    Yu for IS superboss
    Ren for EP superboss
    >>
    >>750752021
    >>750751558
    There's no use in even pretending anything past 2 is better. The P1 and P2 are getting remakes, and people will finally play them and realize they were fed garbage all along.
    Cope bitch.
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    >>750749373
    The Kirby we all know and love is Forgotten lands. Guess what Kirby game is missing in his flop racing game?
    Get fucked
    >>
    >>750752021
    5 is awful and peaks in the first dungeon it does not trump the older games.
    >>
    Will they get someone to do a german accent for the Fuhrer's dub?
    >>
    >>750735292
    Lol get fucked, the series will forever be clones of P5.
    >>
    >>750753347
    >P5.
    Retard alert
    >>
    >>750753347
    >Complete retarded moment
    Can't wait to see you faggots saying the same thing for Persona 6. I can tell your seethe narrative is already ready.
    >>
    You're not fooling anyone.
    >>
    >>750753347
    >Persona UIs with distinct differences
    >EVERYTHING IS LE PERSONA 5!!!
    >Dragon Quest and FF games with the same old black/blue boxes from 40 years ago
    >IT'S LE TRADITION!!!
    >>
    >>750754351
    >Dragon Quest and FF games with the same old black/blue boxes from 40 years ago
    You don't even play games.
    >>
    >>750754351
    >Dragon Quest and FF games with the same old black/blue boxes from 40 years ago


    FF dropped those blue boxes years ago and have been going with the same style of FFXII for years now yet you don't see anyone saying that every FF is XII
    >>
    >>750748182
    P1 is not a great game and the 2 duology, particularly Innocent Sin, is just miserable. It has nothing to do with their age either, they're both outclassed by their peers in the genre on the PS1 and even Atlus themselves made snappier, more enjoyable games with SMT1 and SMT2, maybe even if... as well, than they did with P2's combat which is the worst combination of slow and braindead imaginable on top of not even having fusion to play around with.
    >>
    >>750754480
    >>750754483
    Sorry bros, unfortunately your new shitty FF game is just FF4 again. Name a more incompentent company: you can't.
    >>
    >>750754620
    You don't play games AND you're blind, so sad.
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    >>750754351
    It's always funny because the FFcultists love to seethe about Persona games UIs, since they use the same garbage blue boxes everytime.
    >>
    >>750754620
    >>750754772
    I would cut my tongue out and eat it if I was a Fina Fanto fan crying about Persona series UI.
    >>
    >>750752589
    Tadashi trannies will spout out retarded babble but will still pay 70$ for Persona 6. I'd say the good thing about old troonsona getting remade is that I get to see fewer low IQ takes on Perosna post-3 but I know that's just wishful thinking but at least I'll get to laugh at dementia sona jeets when the P1 remake sells less copies than Metaphor.
    >>
    >>750736596
    >in a different timeline 3H would be see as a desu ripoff
    >>
    >>750748116
    >Every single UI element has a different placement on the screen and a different shape and colour
    >it's totally the same though
    You're talking out of your ass bro. They literally go out of their way to make them different. The only one that looks kinda derivative is P3R but if you dare say P4R looks like P5 then you're just shitposting. At that point every JRPG UI that isn't just FF/DQ bland blocks is Persona 5.
    >>
    >>750754351
    Anyone who calls himself a Persona fan and yet want what made Persona unique removed is a fake fan. These people are just malding SMT niggers that will forever be asshurt that Persona will always be the superior series.
    >>
    >>750755245
    >At that point every JRPG UI that isn't just FF/DQ bland blocks is Persona 5.
    This shitposting is how squeernix cultists cope with their crappy games lmao
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    >>750749373
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    >>750755265
    >what made Persona unique
    The UI didn't make Persona unique until 5 invited retards like you in that watch the game on Youtube in lieu of playing it. Talk about fake fan.
    >>
    Why are Persona 5 haters so mentally ill?
    >>
    >>750755390
    kek good job proving his point dumbass

    >>750755424
    It lives rent free in their head because of how successful it was. Actual literal mindbreak.
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    >>750755390
    You're the tourist if you think Persona is unique solely for Its UI you inbred.
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    >>750755467
    >proving "his" point
    Kek sure
    >>750755481
    I see you've quoted the wrong person. No worries I'll correct that for you. >>750755265
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    >>750755531
    >everyone that disagrees with my retarded points is the same person
    lmao definitely something someone who isn't mentally ill and seething would say.
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    >>750755424
    Jealousy/tribalism
    >>
    >>750735292
    >turn order
    Already an improvement.
    >>
    >>750756591
    This and the moon phases as well
    >>
    >>750735292
    I NEED A RELEASE DATE
    >>
    >>750757481
    After Persona 6.
    >>
    >>750755424
    Literally the single most popular JRPG of the 21st century.
    >>
    >>750757941
    We thought p4r was going to be after p6 too
    >>
    >>750748504
    They will add a black skin for true american patriots
    >>
    >>750748626
    Okey anon is time to stop with this upscaling
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