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    Best protagonist in the franchise.
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    It's certainly a videogame.
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    >>750729278
    Probobly the worst one overall
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    Not as good as FF15, the best game in the series
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    Best one
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    >>750729402
    This
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    >>750729278
    Sex with rat
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    >>750729328
    Agreed
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    >>750729328
    That's Tidus
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    Finish her arc
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    >>750729278
    overall good game that falls off toward the end
    >so like every fin-
    no
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    >>750729278
    Kino. As an another anon said, easily the best protagonist in the series. Not every character has to have a major arc, it is Zidane’s convictions that change the lives of those around him as he is continually tested. A much more compelling character narrative to me than one of constant change. This is a game that celebrates living through adversity, and finding purpose through love and friendship. It is a wholly sincere game which is why the retards here hate it so much. It is the kind of game that is sorely missing from today’s irony-poisoned landscape.

    IX > X > XII > VI > V
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    >>750729402
    >>750729520

    ...guys. /b is THAT way.
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    rat pussy
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    >>750729278
    My first final fantasy and forever my favorite, vivi is my favorite character in the game, eiko and Zidane are close seconds
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    2nd best jrpg on the PS1 behind Legend of Dragoon
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    >>750729278
    Mediocre game, weakest FF on PSX, looks gorgeous though. Zidane is a mid protagonist by the way, retards don't know what they're talking about.
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    Artistic masterpiece. One of the most beautiful games ever made.
    Incredible cutscene direction and choreography (the whole opening sequence for example, from Vivi arriving in Alexandria to before the party crashes in the woods). Gorgeous environment design, even one off locations like the South Gate. It's a constant adventure.

    Believe it or not I didn't like it when I first played it because the super slow battles bothered me. With the Moguri mod's faster battles it became a non issue though. I wish Moguri restored the PS1 UI completely instead of having the ugly new one, but oh well.

    >>750729328
    FF9 is not, in fact, good because Zidane is le based and grabbed le butt. He's middling as a protagonist and that's alright. The supporting cast is fantastic and even the characters who are just "okay" have great design.
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    It really lacks its own identity, because it's just aping the earlier ones.
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    >9fags self-inserting into Zidane because he gets pussy and confusing that with "him being the best FF protagonist"
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    >>750729907
    >capable chad who makes intelligent decisions and is emotionally intelligent
    He’s like an unretarded Tidus. And Tidus is based.
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    >>750729278
    Hot Take: It’s the worst game before the Enix merger
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    >>750730045
    That's 8
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    >>750729278
    Its great before the last 10%
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    >>750729278
    Great first half.
    I hate that the plot turns into outerspace alyylmao saiyan clones sent clear out the planet in the second half.
    Im using "half" very loosely here i dont remember the exact point the plot switches up.
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    >>750729328
    >Best protagonist in the franchise.

    Yeah, Vivi who would then go on to appear in Kingdom Hearts 2.
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    >>750729939
    is the gameplay that slow? i plan on emulating the ps1 version
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    >>750729278
    7 > 6 > 9 > 10
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    >>750730164
    No. It's not. People bitch and moan about it, but you barely even notice the speed.
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    >>750730226
    8>4>6>1>5>9>10>3

    I'd say that 7 and 2 tie for last, but 2 doesn't actively punish you for playing it.
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    >>750730164
    if you're emulating you can just use emulator speed up at the cost of the battle themes being garbled.
    I played on actual hardware hacked PSP back in the day so it wasn't an option for me. Same experience with Dragon Quest VIII which I enjoyed significantly more with the 3DS release and its built in speedup than when I first played it on a real PS2.
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    >>750730007
    Tidus has a stronger arc and better romance though, more interesting conflict with his father, the villain. Like that comparison just makes Tidus look better. Being retarded is good because you get to see him become unretarded
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    >>750729278
    Vivi is great, graphics are great, loading times are atrocious. 7/10
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    >>750730124
    The medieval + mistpunk aesthetic is comfy kino in the fist half.
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    >>750730330
    >loading times are atrocious
    You mean those 3 to 4 second loading times? Fucking grow up.
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    >>750730068
    Your shitty game will never STEAL my attention from better games.
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    >>750730231
    yes you do, you never played it or you're mentally retarded so obviously it doesn't impact you.
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    >>750730373
    >tfw playing Moguri mod with the 100% steal success rate cheat
    I don't care what you fags say I'm having fun
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    >>750730306
    7 is like the best one
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    >>750730372
    you actually start caring about loading times as you grow up and have finite time, so that's not exactly the insult you thought it was
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    >>750729278
    Fantastic. Play it whenever you can, preferably the PS1 version
    Perfect? Of course not
    >trance system gets mixed opinions
    >some characters are basically filler due to their lack of interaction with the whole story, same with some cities even (remember Esto Gaza? Me neither, except for the music)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpPHwByQmMk
    >story some unfinished spots (like Freya's storyline)

    But it's still a great game overall, and it was a more than decent sendoff of the franchise to the PS1 before jumping to the next generation

    >>750730373
    Oh YEAH, do remember to train the fucking Steal skill from day one, otherwise it'll forever be shit and unreliable
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    >>750730381
    I literally beat it last week. It's fine. Cry harder.
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    Probably one of my least favorite FFs. I don't care for Zidane or any of the supporting cast, find the story to be underwhelming, and it has no special gameplay/combat systems to prop it up. It's not bad but I do find it very weird when people consider it one of their favorites.
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    >>750730226
    >>750730306
    you faggots have the shittiest tastes imaginable thank fuck i'm not nearly as tasteless as you homos.
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    Not every character has to have a typical arc. YouTube essayists have really made people think characters have to be written a particular way. Zidane is a strong person with strong convictions that are constantly tested, the catharsis is that he is able to persevere through it all - it’s equally compelling to me.
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    >>750730164
    There's not really a good reason to emulate the PS1 version and if you really care about slow gameplay then yes the emulated version is slow as shit because of the long delay for battle sequences.
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    >>750730512
    like I said you are mentally retarded
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    >>750730306
    Holy edgelord
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    I like Zidane the most because of his arc through the story.
    >went on his own journey of self discovery before the game starts
    >decided that his origins don't matter because he has a family anyway
    >tries to impart those lessons onto Garnet and Vivi
    >eventually does find out his origins and has to be confronted with the lessons he'd been spouting the whole game
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    >>750730448
    Based. Moguri has some great gameplay options.
    And to your point if Im playing as a thief and wasting a turn to steal it better fucking succeed.
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    >>750730231
    FF9 is my favorite FF by a lot and yes the load times and original battle speed are absolutely grating. I feel the same way about FF10 too.
    Both are great games but improved vastly with speed up and a full party AP gain mod for 10

    as an aside, never ever EVER play the FF10 HD Remaster, the version that's on all modern digital storefronts. You should emulate it or not play at all, the HD remaster is that bad
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    >muh steal rates
    Just don't steal then? It's a gamble. You're not owed a powerful weapon just because you spent turns trying to steal for it
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    >>750730470
    WORST one. Fuck outta here, retard.
    >>750730501
    3 SECONDS. AN ADULT WOULDN'T GET PISSY OVER 3. SECONDS.Fuck off, kid.
    >>750730508

    >some characters are basically filler due to their lack of interaction with the whole story

    Name ONE character that doesn't fit. Literally every main character has an arc and a reason to follow you.

    >>750730529
    Amarant is a prime exsample of a story arc not needing to be spoonfed to you. His ACTIONS say more than words ever could.

    >>750730568
    Begone retard.
    >>750730580
    Not an edgelord. I'm just stating facts. Don't be pissy just because your false idol isn't perfect.
    >>750730617
    3 second load times are a non-issue, fuck you. And the battle speed is NOT slow. The ISSUE is the way the animations clog up the queue.
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    >>750729994
    Yeah, I'm sure it has nothing to do with Zidane's carefree personality in contrast with the increasingly dark events around him, and the way he inspires those in his company in their times of distress.
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    >>750730617
    I played FFX immediately after FFIX and I thought the battles were fast as fuck lol
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    >>750730563
    I won't deny that modern versions might have improved things like graphics and such, but i just can't get into that text format, seems like i'm reading cellphone text messages
    And for old games i always try to go closer to the original experience whenever possible, loading times be damned
    >long delay for battle sequences.
    The real way to be played, baby. It add suspense
    What's next, you'll complain about CD changing?
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    >>750730765
    >3 SECONDS. AN ADULT WOULDN'T GET PISSY OVER 3. SECONDS.Fuck off, kid.
    if you played the game (you didn't and cannot prove it) you'd know the worst loading times are the battles. which is the whole fucking game.
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    >>750730830
    3 seconds for battles. Pokemon takes longer than that. Cry harder you fuckin pissant.
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    >>750730765
    >Amarant is a prime exsample of a story arc not needing to be spoonfed to you. His ACTIONS say more than words ever could.
    ahahahah
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    >>750730765
    imagine making an average ps1 jrpg your entire identity to the point of sperging at anybody saying anything remotely negative about it
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    >>750730661
    For me? Its modding Quinas eat threshholds.
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    >>750730787
    the aeon animations in 10 are offensively slow for how much more emphasized summons are gameplay-wise
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    >>750730881
    >what about
    the fuck do I care about pokefag
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    >>750730765
    I wouldn't say "doesn't fit", i'm just saying that you could dispose of Quina or Amarant and the story would remain pretty much the same, or with little differences. I know, it's not necessarily a bad thing, if they're interesting enough on their own, but they're kind just....there, in case you wanted a blue mage or a monk in your party
    Eiko at least has the excuse of being from the same summoner tribe where Garnet originally came from
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    >>750730896
    Go fuck yourself, troll. I ain't taking the bait.
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    >>750730942
    you can enable short summon in the options
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    >>750730896
    >no argument
    I accept your concession
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    >>750730789
    nta but although I swear by Moguri, I do hate the ugly new UI. If Moguri restored the PS1 UI completely instead of just the font then it would be perfect.
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    >>750730789
    That's retarded no one should play like that and you can change the text to anything you like on the PC version due to memoria and other various mods, you can mod back the PS1 font and keep classic icons. There's just tonnes and tonnes of mods now, it's just the superior way to play just due to all the QOL features alone.
    You'd have to be playing it for some extremely esoteric reason not that I could think of a single one.
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    >>750730967
    >>750731017
    samefag
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    >>750729278
    Second worst pre-11 game. Discs 2 and 3 are a drag, combat feels too basic and slow, swapping gear constantly when you learn skills is annoying, most of the cast feels underutilized.
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    >>750730893
    >Translation: I can't read so I'm just gonna make noises and act like it means I win

    Fuck off, retard.
    >>750730956
    Quina is important as his entire reason for existing is to be the one NOT worrying over everything. Amarant is literally there to be the foil to both Freya and Zidane. Zidane helps everyone, and Freya fights for her people. Amarant only fights for himself.

    >>750731059
    Wrong again, troll.
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    >>750730789
    You can get pretty close with mods
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    >>750729278
    it's great but it feels like it has the same issue like most other final fantasy where the final act feels rushed as fuck
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    I think tetramaster is bad
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    >>750731095
    >what is inspect
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    >>750730947
    >retard moving the goalpost noises

    Ok, just kill yourself then. I ain't gonna deal with your bullshit low effort bait.
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    >>750730124
    > I hate that the plot turns into outerspace alyylmao saiyan clones sent clear out the planet in the second half.
    That’s like 90% of the games
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    >>750731183
    >HURR DURR I'M FUCKING DISHONEST ASSHOLE SO CLEARLY EVERYONE IS HURR DURR

    shut the fuck up.
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    holy shit why is this schizo malding like that? i like ff9 too but it's far from perfect, give it a rest.
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    >>750731268
    I dunno, asking the lying retarded schizos making bullshit claims and maybe they'll tell you without lying-oh wait, no they wont.
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    >>750730956
    Quina has the most based philosophy in the game and is basically the answer to Vivi’s internal struggle.
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    >>750731183
    the parentheses only appear when the posts belong to (You), nigger
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    >>750729278
    I like it a lot. The sluggish combat doesn't hold up very well nowadays IMO. It's feels 3x slower than FF7's combat barring a few obnoxious summons.
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    >>750729907
    >zoomer parrots youtube essay about game he never played
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    >>750729278
    Best one competing with X
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    >>750731354
    >completely misses the point
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    >>750731095
    Based only other person to realise Quina’s importance in the game.
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    >>750731051
    >playing it for some extremely esoteric reason
    I just told you that reason anon, and it's not that weird to begin with, you just can't accept it it seems.
    It's like people who play games like, let's say DOOM. Yeah, you have endless recent versions with modern conveniences like mouse detection and freelook, dynamic lighting, etc. But there were always gonna be people that, either for nostalgia or for desire to experience the original game, that will play it through DOSBox only with the keyboard, and both are okay
    It's the same with this game. To feel something closer to what i played when i was younger, i choose to emulate it in PS1 and remember the cool CD changing sequences, tolerate loading times, etc
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    Better the older you are, at least spiritually. Genuinely after the success of 7 and 8 and with 10 already in the pipleine the devs knew the future for JRPGs involved anime boys in sci-fi settings. They decided to make 9 as a love letter to the older style of not only FF but RPGs in general. Wizardry, DQ, and everything else with obviously FF itself getting the largest part of that. So if you are at a point where you could share in that love of the classic stuff, it's great. If you just take it off the shelf as your first videogame you will probably think it's "fine." The whole aspect of the anxiety of knowing that we'll die one day and the pain of seeing it close can obviously transcend nostalgia, but this isn't the only source of that even on the PS1 so it won't get a ton of bonus points for that.
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    >quina is vital to the story
    >optional character
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    >>750731314
    Also, I literally posted my tier list. 9 is in the bottom 5. Start making VALID complaints and I'll stop calling you out for being lying retards.

    >>750731354
    Thank you.

    >sluggish combat doesn't hold up
    It holds up fine. YOU just don't like it. Fuck off, quit spouting your opinions as if they were facts.

    >>750731406
    Thank you.
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    >>750731380
    No I've played, it's ass. I spent all year trying to force myself to finish it. Boring as piss.
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    >>750730448
    >Game is so shit it needs mods to make it good
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    i wonder if this schizo has his bedroom filled with ff9 merchandises
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    >>750731446
    Play the game tard.
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    >>750729278
    Unironically the best FF even among the ones of the golden age (PS1). VII and VIII are great too but IX is just the definitive quintessential FF. What every FF should aim to be.

    Still, i am pleased this has gone unnoticed at SE. I really wouldn´t wish VII´s fate on any game.
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    >>750731408
    Yeah but you played that game before.
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    >>750731570
    read the list, retard. Bottom five. Go take your meds.
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    >>750731404
    >damage control
    let it go bro. you played yourself. laugh it off instead of sitting there seething doubling down on your fumble
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    >>750731576
    >optional character
    >entire purpose for traveling with you is to taste food around the world
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    >>750731650
    Not optional, retard. Mandatory. Getting him EARLY is optional. You can't skip him entirely.
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    >>750731482
    >It holds up fine. YOU just don't like it. Fuck off, quit spouting your opinions as if they were facts.

    >I like it a lot. The sluggish combat doesn't hold up very well nowadays IMO

    IMO stands for "in my opinion." You must be ESL or some shit. I think the combat is slow but I'm not running any mods. I've only played it on the original PS1 when it was new and then I replayed it last year via an emulator. FF7's combat is a lot faster as long as you're not spamming shit like knights of the round.
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    >>750731446
    Quina is optional to get early but very mandatory later on. You can't get to the other continent with it. Also not at all vital to the story, at most tangentially related to Vivi's backstory
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    >>750731650
    >not optional
    >dispenses based folk wisdom with every line
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    >>750729278
    Ehhh one of the overrated ones. The entire party acts kinda retarded. Zidane's tail and origin is just dragon ball. Slow combat. Final boss battle was random/odd.
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    >>750731645
    the point was to show how inspect works you dumb jeet
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    >>750729994
    Almost every FF protagonist eventually "gets pussy," retard.
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    >>750731630
    I'll be honest (and i'll understand if you don't believe me): i never played DOOM when i was young (around the 90s) and when i finally did after 2010 or such, i still chose to go through the original version with DOSBox and only the keyboard.
    Or if you want more recent examples, i've been playing Yakuza 1 and 2 through emulation, not even touching Kiwami until then
    Again, i'm not a purist or something; if i were, i'd be autistically searching for original consoles and physical copies and all that shit. I just roll that way
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    >>750729278
    Getting the 100% in the fencing minigame on emulator was a pain. Otherwise, at least it didn't filter me like VIII.
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    >>750731814
    what pussy did terra get?
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    >>750731730
    My eyes are bad, shitstain. This haloween scheme is making it hard to read shit.
    >>750731739
    >later on
    Yup. Literally the start of disc 2.
    >>750731793
    Indeed.
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    >>750731801
    no one cares bro. seething about it will only further ruin your day
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    >>750731827
    >it didn't filter me like VIII
    You can't read?
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    >>750731827
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    >>750731964
    I fucking hate this, I know the pain.
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    >>750731247
    True. I guess its the pacing; multiple new threats and new cosmic lore dump introduced late into already established world and story
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    >>750732019
    See this? THIS is a valid criticism.
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    >>750731956
    The magic system didn't click. I was autistic enough to unlock the Lionheart on CD1 but otherwise I just... stopped. I got to finish VII and IX on the other hand though.
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    >>750729278
    Mogged by Dragon Quest 7 I'm afraid
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    >>750731964
    >>
    >Positives
    kinosovl world, appropriately FF feeling esoteric lore, great cast, adventure, aesthetic, and OST
    >mileage may vary
    customization system is underbaked and restrictive when some characters are literally just better versions of each other
    Trance is a humiliation ritual after how game warping VIII's limit breaks were
    >problems
    ADHD pacing leaves some events as literal storyboards, lot of side character development trapped in missable ATEs or events which can occasionally overlap with each other, and easily has the worst version of atb in the mainline franchise
    Also tetra master fucking blows and you are forced to play it once which is too many times
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    >>750732091
    Ok, fair enough. 98% of the whining is from people that didn't pay attention when Quistis explained shit. Also, that being said, you ruined it for yourself by doing that.
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    >>750732125
    Isn't this game like twice the length though? I've heard the original DQVII takes 120 hours to complete.
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    >>750732185
    >problems
    the fucking trance auto activating... what were they thinking???
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    >>750732287
    That was legit the ONLY problem with it. It wouldn't have been so bad if you didn't lose the entire bar at the end of battle after it popped.
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    >>750732125
    DQVII appeals to job maxing autists that want to see how OP they can make their party. FF9 appeals to people wanting to experience a fun story with cool characters and cinematics. I don't think they're really comparable.
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    If you didn't defeat Ozma you didn't beat the game.
    If you used Yan then it doesn't count.
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    >>750732243
    That's correct, 50 hours into DQ7 and you're not even done with the party members. Which is why the remake completely changed the pacing and had some story arcs happening before they were supposed to happen.
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    Reminder to name Garnet "Lili" instead Dagger because English localizers were retards.
    >German version:
    >Zidane explains that his weapon is a Liliendolch (lily dagger).
    >Garnet remembers that lilies have always been her favorite flowers.
    >She chooses Lili as her new name.
    There. Now you dont have to use of the worst default names in FF history without feeling guilty for changing it to a non-canon name.
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    >>750732614
    Italian version is "Daga"
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    >>750732579
    i beat it without knowing you could weaken it with the gemstone quests (how were you supposed to know?)
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    >>750732579
    I beat ozma AND robbed him blind. Do I win anything?
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    >>750732648
    all versions are basically daga inclusding japanese. doesnt make it less retarded in english
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    >>750732423
    I didn't like that some characters arcs come to a conclusion very quick. Steiner for instance loses a lot of relevancy past disc 2 because his character arc is pretty much already completed. So despite establishing himself as part of the main clique, he drops off in relevancy in the story almost immediately.
    Eiko is also another character that drops off in relevancy after Alexander summon. She's essentially used as a macguffin purely for Garnet and then she's immediately discarded later on.
    This is nothing new for Final Fantasy though some characters have less stakes than others but I feel the subsequent title FFX established that almost everyone had a much higher stake in the story than FFIX's did.
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    >>750732614
    >because English localizers were retards
    >Dagger is a bad localization for ダガー
    Someone is retarded and it is not the localizers (for once)
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    >>750732773
    I didnt say they were wrong. >>750732718
    But whatever if you enjoy Dagger then good for you ig
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    >>750732773
    they're retarded because a faithful localization is not necessarily a good localization
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    >>750732761
    His character arc moves from his identity as a knight to what he wants to ACTUALLY fight for, the reason he settle on was Beatrix. But you're right. It does move out of the spotlight.
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    >sup my dagga
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    >>750732579
    > its just a ball
    what the FUCK were they thinking. at least we got hades
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    >>750732929
    this fucker is weak as fuck for a side boss though. was even meant to be the final boss originally so i guess they shoved it there with his regular final boss stats
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    >>750732929
    Looks like a weird version of the Babel Core from ff4. It's not THAT strange.
    >>750732978
    The hard part isn't how STRONG he is. It's how SMART his ai is. One slip up can easily mean death.
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    >>750729278
    My favorite one, but I played it at a time where I was starting to feel the disillusionment from modern games and it was the first time in a while that I was reminded that games used to be and could be good. Maybe that affected my opinion a little bit
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    >>750731814
    But did they get rat pussy like Zidane?
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    >>750729278
    My favorite of the Playstation Final Fantasy titles, the soundtrack gets me every time.
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    >>750732761
    Good points, but what about Kimari?
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    >>750733139
    Kimahri is there for Yuna. Not you. He has no connection to anyone but her,which is why he starts so close to where she does on the grid. He slowly opens up to Tidus as the journey goes on. It wouldn't be the same without him.
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    >>750733139
    nta but to me he feels like the best among the "wasted" characters.
    Amarant, Half the cast of VI etc
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    >>750733239
    he had a great character growth when finally facing his bullies. i don't think every character needs to have a crucial part in how events unfold. some times they're just here because they're a friend.
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    >>750733139
    I mean, he does at least have some character arc resolution with his tribe. He's actually above Lulu, because he gets resolution in the main plot, and she gets relegated to an optional side-quest.
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    >>750733239
    Amarant wasn't wasted. Neither was Kimahri. Neither was "half the cast of VI". You could MAYBE make an argument for Gogo, because he's strictly along for the ride because it's better than being stuck in the Zone Eater, but that's about it.

    >>750733345
    Exactly.
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    >>750733345
    Agreed, to me the difference with a character like Amarant is the screen time. Kimahri actually exists in the game
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    >>750733409
    Amarant exists in LITERALLY every scene possible. He doesn't have to be in the spotlight toe exist. That's what the Active Time Events are for.
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    >>750733357
    Lulu is crucial to the story
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    >>750733560
    Enough Wakka!
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    >>750733080
    >My favorite one, but I played it at a time where I was starting to feel the disillusionment from modern games and it was the first time in a while that I was reminded that games used to be and could be good. Maybe that affected my opinion a little bit
    That's sort of the point of the throwback to be closer to the original FFs though so if it worked for you that's good. More complexity doesn't always make a better game.
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    >>750733357
    the lulu subplot always felt bizarre to me because she must have been way younger to have done this pilgrimage and nobody knew about it even though they all lived together like a family.
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    >>750733560
    Wakka's retarded Hawaiian ass motorboated these funbags whenever he wanted btw
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    >>750733498
    >Amarant exists in LITERALLY every scene possible
    Doesn't he join in Disc 2?
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    >>750733674
    Yes. Every scene POSSIBLE. I didn't say every scene IN THE GAME.
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    >>750733638
    FFX is all about characters withholding information for zero reason.
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    >>750733638
    >today I learned Lulu was 22 during FFX
    what the fuck she seemed soo mature
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    >>750733901
    in a jarpig anyone over 20 is matured and anyone near/over 30 is a grizzled veteran
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    >>750729753
    You have bad taste if u dont like 15, that or you just skipped the anime/movie
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    >>750733901
    welcome to japanese chara design. pic is a 15 years old teenager
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    >>750732929
    I like it. It's like Ozma is so powerful that you can't really perceive its true form, so it's just a blob of pure magic.
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    >>750734053
    he has chad ginger genes
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    >>750734010
    I will never touch Boy Band Road Trip Simulator and no amount of gaslighting will change the fact that it sucks ass.
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    >>750729939
    You really don't understand what makes Zidane good. He's basically in a class of his own as far as Final Fantasy protagonists.
    >streetwise
    >proactive
    >generally a step ahead of everyone
    >sees what he wants and goes for it
    >takes care of his nakama without ever being cloying, saccharine, or goody-goody
    >wins fights even on his own
    >wiseguy, but also keeps things under his hat
    Basically, he doesn't act like
    >Cecil, who's tortured and melodramatic
    >Bartz, who's a generic adventure man
    >Tifa, who's naive, amnesiatic, and unsure
    >Cloud, who's aloof and acerbic
    >Squall, who's stoic and misanthropic
    >Tidus, who's impulsive, upbeat, but secretly insecure
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    >>750734137
    the bros on a road trip is actually the only good part (but doesn't even last long). rest of the game is an unfinished mess that plays like an offline mmo until it doesn't. zero vision
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    >>750729683
    But every FF except VI IS like that.
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    >>750734821
    >except VI
    did you forget about WoR?
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    >>750731882
    She got Celes off screen of course lol
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    >>750733560
    Still shows more Cleavage than Tifa
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    >>750734908
    I… liked it.
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    >>750735032
    don't worry i was joking, but some things are weird, like Banon randomly disappearing
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    >>750732019
    90% of the game are like that too.
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    >>750735093
    Too many (non) characters, that was its problem
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    >>750729278
    Alongside the first gen of Pokemon it was the most important thing in the world for 10 years old me, I cannot have an objective view on it. It defined what a JRPG was for me and I pretty much always compared everything I played to it. Now that time has passed I still think the art direction is stellar in all aspects (yes even the midi soundtrack) but the franchise has had better game mechanics (mostly in terms of team/character building) both before it and after it. I still get a bit chocked up when I put on the ending song and it transitions into the classic FF1 tune.
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    >>750734137
    I was gonna type what the other anon said before I saw it and fuck it I'll repeat it anyway

    the boy band road trip aspect is, by far, the best and most kino thing about FFXV. There's nothing quite like it in that regard, it's very comfy. The game is mediocre for a whole host of other reasons.

    If you got it as a free game with your PS5 during covid it's worth checking out for a bit for that alone
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    >>750729278
    most boring FF that I've played and I've played all of them before 12, except 3
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    >>750734221
    chatgpt
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    >>750729278
    By far the worst side content in the entire series.
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    >>750729278
    Masterpiece start and mid game.
    Kinda falls apart at the end.

    Why is Squeenix incapable of finishing a FF game COMPLETELY? The end is always half assed.
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    >>750735408
    Don't ever accuse me of AI again.
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    >>750734821
    ff7 doesn't fall off, on the contrary. ffx either.
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    >>750735427
    Chocobo Hot and Cold mogs FFVII's Chocobo breeding and racing. The latter is one of the things preventing me from replaying VII, whereas the former is something I never skip when replaying IX.
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    >>750735464
    why do you think ff7 is the most popular one? it's good from beginning to end.
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    >>750735602
    You can just butcher Ruby Weapon and get a gold Chocobo from the house dude.
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    >>750735602
    IX has like fucking 30 minigames and all of them are god awful. VII only has one bad minigame and VIII only has one bad minigame.
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    >>750729278
    How did that Amaranth faggot make it onto the cover for this game?
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    >>750735231
    >comfy
    Don't care, that's a giant negative. Fuck that shit. Make me fight for my goddamn life for half the game before giving me ANY form of non-manual transportation or don't make the game.

    Also, the game. Is. DOGSHIT. Look up Versus 13's trailer and then come back and try and defend what happened to it.
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    >>750734821
    FF 12 falls off so fucking hard I think I stopped playing at the literal last dungeon before the end boss because I was so fucking bored out of my mind.
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    >>750736041
    12 is shit right from the bat. i dropped it somewhere around the bunny sluts village
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    >>750736039
    NTA but you sound like a joyless faggot. I bet you unironically like XVI.
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    >>750736076
    >i dropped it somewhere around the bunny sluts village
    you stopped to goon and had post-nut clarity about the time you wasting playing it, didnt you
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    >>750736041
    You know for how much people shit on XII's combat I actually found it pretty fun. To me XII's boring because of how much pointless time wasting bullshit the game has you go through for literally no reason. Like how doing the hunts is for no reason like a 6 step process instead of just getting the hunt, killing the thing and then reporting it. Entire game is full of that shit,
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    >>750734221
    Squall is my favourite because he’s me. Autistic and terrible at talking to people. Also FF9 child game.... look to cartoon grapfix to make kid player happy like children show.. FF9 cartoon world with rainbow unlike FF8 with dark corridorr and raelistic gunblade.. FF9 like playhouse. FF9 playor run from FF8 fear of dark world and realism
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    >>750736078
    Don't even joke about that. Fuck Devil May Clive. That's not even Final Fantasy. It's a fucking Game Of Thrones game, and a dogshit one at that.
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    >>750736215
    I'm still mad that they never fixed his lines in the Steam port. They fucked up his character SO BADLY in the initial localization.
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    >>750736215
    squall isn't autistic he is just an asshole
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    >>750736268
    >he is just an asshole
    meaningless term
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    >>750736268
    Yup. He's an asshole because he doesn't WANT people getting close to him so he actively tries to drive them away.
    >>750736286
    No, he really is just an asshole, and it's on purpose.


    https://legendsoflocalization.com/articles/ff8-squall-whatever-japanese/
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    >>750736267
    …whatever
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    >>750736338
    You are just repeating yourself. It's a meaningless term
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    >>750736453
    It's not meaningless, now go fuck yourself.
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    >>750736453
    it perfectly defines him, he is cold and dismissive to everybody all the time, even when they show vulnerability. he is the definition of asshole.
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    >>750736542
    >he is cold and dismissive to everybody
    See now you are using actual words. Good job!
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    >>750736575
    I accept your concession. if you want me to teach you more english vocabulary- hit me up
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    >>750736215
    Squall had the misfortune of coming right after Cloud. They're not the same character, but they're similar.
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    >>750736542
    He’s like if cloud was even more of a prick at the beginning of FF7 and just never changed. That’s why we love him though!
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    >>750736619
    >if you want me to teach you more english vocabulary- hit me up
    Go on, I'm listening.
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    Agonizingly slow, after 10 hours it still felt like i was in the tutorial. Outside of Vivi not a single character interested me at all.
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    >>750736720
    I thought Garnet was hot, cute and fuckable? Does that count as being interested in a character?
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    >>750736720
    you didn't like steiners antics?
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    >>750736720
    >Outside of Vivi not a single character interested me at all.
    Steiner? Garnet? Zidane? Zidane's boyband?
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    >>750736820
    >ignoring the furry waifu in the room
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    >>750731795
    > Zidane's tail and origin is just dragon ball
    what the fuck you’ve never played the game
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    >>750736806
    Not when all I wanted to do was get out of the intro, do dungeons, fight monsters, that sorta thing. The game felt so focused on dumb little minigames and lengthy cutscenes.
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    >>750736994
    >all I wanted to do was get out of the intro, do dungeons, fight monsters, that sorta thing
    so like 20 minutes into the game?
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    >>750736216
    Okay yea, your opinion dosent matter. I tried giving you the benefit of the doubt.
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    >>750736661
    He DID change. After Rinoa went into her coma, he started changing. Opening up more. Being less of an asshole.

    >>750737091
    Not an opinion. It's a fact. It was LITERALLY meant to be a Game Of Thrones game.
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    >>750736982
    >what the fuck you’ve never played the game
    Is he not an alien?
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    >>750729278
    The only ff worth playing because I had it as a kid
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    >>750736982
    >alien monkey man gets sent to another planet with the intention of destroying it, loses memories and gets raised by a resident of the planet, suddenly one of his fellow monkey men shows up to try to destroy the planet
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    >>750737349
    He didn't lose his memories. He never had any to begin with. It was also an attempt on his life by Kuja.
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    >>750737349
    >also they can temporarily transform into super warriors when they're angry
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    >>750737410
    Not when they're angry, when they basically overdose on Mist, which happens more easily while they're dealing with intense emotions. Steiner Tranced because he wanted to protect Beatrix, for example. Vivi Tranced because of despair at seeing the needless bloodshed. You really DIDN'T play the game.
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    Memoria is kino
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEXJAV1RU8A
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    >>750729278
    besides the main four, all the other characters sucked ass. the gameplay gimmick was lame compared to ff7's and ff8's. getting the strongest weapon in the game required you to rush through content and could only be used at the very end, and it's not even for the main character. the strongest boss is a giant marble and the final boss made no fucking sense at all. but at least it had good music
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    >makes his own kids look exactly like him
    kinda misses the mark on being an individual
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    >>750738651
    forgot pic
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    >>750738651
    Give him a break. He was working with limited time and resources. He didn't even make it to the reunion because he died before then.
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    >>750738460
    Freya was great. Beatrix sucks.
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    >>750729278
    Since this is a Final Fantasy thread I wanna ask
    Is Tactics really as good as everyone keeps saying?
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    >>750729278
    I don't like the character design. they all dress like morons
    and the story is generic lame shonen bullshit
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    >>750739870
    it has no defense stat so that hurts it in my eyes. The demake is dogshit too.

    Play the og or WOTL.
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    >>750739959
    >The demake is dogshit too.
    The fuck are you even talking about?
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    >>750739689
    Excalibur II is just a secret bonus item for fun. Endgame weapon stats don't actually matter much since your best moves are all skills that can do fixed 9999 damage like Dragon's Crest and Thievery.

    The final boss is literally just the grim reaper but stylized. It's a battle against the personification of inevitable death.
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    >>750736982
    >>750737409
    >it isn't exactly the same so it's nothing alike
    has anyone ever told you to get an autism diagnosis?
    IX being fantasy Dragonball is neither a bad thing or even the craziest thing about its plot and considering sakaguchi worked directly with toriyama on Chrono Trigger it's hardly a stretch to assume he'd make a very blatant homage to his works when making a very nostalgia oriented game
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    >>750740574
    Are you illiterate too? THE. DEMAKE. IS.DOGSHIT.
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    >>750740718
    Sorry this was meant for >>750738460 lmao
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    >>750738220
    for me it's
    https://youtu.be/flfGMjLUNKU?is=w06OW1oqSn3ePO6x
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    >>750740732
    Shut the fuck up. Fuck you, your a fucking retard and a liar. I will not treat you as anything other than that until you quit acting like a retard and constantly lying.

    I couldn't give less of a fuck whether or not you LIKE the game, just quit fucking lying.
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    >>750740796
    seek mental help
    Terra's esper transformation is also just an SSJ reference, Cloud is literally just Cell saga Gohan. FF has always been entrenched in anime references and culture
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    >>750740853
    ooo… soft
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    >>750740750
    What, specifically, do you not like about it, other than it removing WotL content? If anything, it's the most definitive way to play. They even restored spell chants.
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    >>750738220
    It's a great song, but it also makes me feel a bit sad and existential. Partly because it's supposed to, and partly because it reminds me that the game is almost over.
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    >>750741187
    censorship, dogshit localization, gutted content, fucked balance, the list goes on and I'm not writing it all out right now.
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    >>750740872
    slit your throat and suffer
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    probably the best ost of all time
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    >>750741375
    >average jrpg fan when someone points out the things he likes don't exist in a vacuum
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    >>750741440
    slit your throat and suffer.
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    >>750741326
    >censorship
    What censorship?
    >dogshit localization
    Give one example.
    >gutted content
    I liked WotL content, but I played FFT without it when it first came out.
    >fucked balance
    What does that even mean?
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    Are any difficulty mods for ff9 any fun?
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    >>750741549
    >Give one example.
    >What censorhsip?
    The chants, you dirty fucking poser. Also you'd have known this if you weren't retarded and a lying cunt. I aint even gonna address the other bullshit you said.. get bent.
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    >>750729328
    Zidane is great and people forget that he is mature and experienced. He cuts to the heart of the matter and embodies a good leader even though he doesn't make perfect decisions.
    For example; he is very insightful in his interactions with Dagger and Vivi, and has no problem putting Steiner in his place since he immediately recognizes Steiner's naivety. He also makes good choices for the sake of the group.
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    He gave us one kino after another in 9

    https://youtu.be/sVLVAw3NlVs
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    >>750735408
    pathetic cope
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    Best battle music in the series btw
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=KAkTUXfMcMo
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    >>750741421
    Sure. But as basic as I sound, Dancing Mad may be the best FF track ever
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    >>750730157
    >loli Selphie
    I can't be mad with you kingdom hearts
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    >>750741987
    I think Dancing Mad is overrated. Takes too long to get going. I respect the ambition but I'd rather listen to Neo Exdeath
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    >>750741692
    I don't know what the fuck you're talking about, bro. The only complaint I have with the latest version is the slight rewriting of Lucavi, but it's not enough to make me not recommend it.
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    >>750729278
    Sex with Kuja
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    >>750742120
    >lying poser fag noises
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    >>750742198
    >obsessed schizo whinging
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    >>750742039
    Also a brilliant track. I think I just like that DM feels like a prog rock track and I love my prog.
    But here’s my favourite from IX. Not sure if it’s been posted yet.
    https://youtu.be/PMpB1oX2tLc?is=xtiP1LX2y9Vo48Z0
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    ratto~
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    >>750742276
    >niggerfaggot screeching
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    >>750742287
    Pandemonium in any form is kino
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDBKqQl40l8
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    >>750742198
    I think you're projecting because you only played WotL, so that's the definitive version to you.
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    >>750742361
    >retard moving the goalpoast again

    shut the fuck up. kill yourself.
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    >>750731051
    >There's just tonnes and tonnes of mods now

    And yet somehow there still isn't one that makes the FMVs run at 30 fps. Are you really going to leave the Coca-Cola commercial as the only one that doesn't play like a slideshow?
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    >>750729278
    It's my favourite. A good game.
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    >>750729278
    One of the worst games ever made, no is not hyperbole, I played this garbage from beginning to end and was wondering every second of the experience on how did anyone manage to stand a single minute of this absolute diarrhea, fighting anything in this game is the most miserable experience you will ever feel in your life, the gameplay is just THAT bad, is the only FF I didn't bother to even try to 100%, I just played it because it was basically an obligation, it was either finish this shit or cut my balls.
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    >>750742668
    >moguri mod
    >1.3x speed
    it's literally that easy, I beat this game for the first time this year as a zoomer and had a BLASTtm, git gud
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    >>750742668
    >fighting anything in this game is the most miserable experience you will ever feel in your life
    As much as I disagree with your overall sentiment, I agree with this part.
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    >>750729278
    The best one because I like the Thief job.
    FF9 incorporated stealing in a cool way since getting new gear serves two purposes of updating equipments and also granting new abilities. I like getting to see everything a Boss can do since the new challenge in FF9 is to survive and stall long enough for Zidane to steal everything they have.
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    >>750742776
    >dude I swear it gets good with mods
    Yeah sorry for making the stupid decision of playing the actual game.
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    >>750742979
    I've never played it with mods and it's my favorite. Sounds like you've got a skill issue.
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    >>750742123
    This but with Eiko
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    >>750743209
    You mean Beatrix
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    >>750743305
    Beatrix is for corrective rape only.
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    >>750743305
    HNNNNGGG OLD HAG SEX....
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    It's a great final fantasy, characters feel like traditional RPG choices rather than in FF7 and FF10 where everyone can everything.
    I want to see the game remastered.
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    >>750729694
    but he has a tail and all the good points you mentioned are ruined by the furfaggotry
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    >what's good about it
    >it's a return to form and I had a blast with it
    I have heard this before...
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    >>750743305
    >old hag
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    >>750729278
    I think it holds up graphically better than FF7 and FF8 but worse in every other aspect and extremely forgettable.
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    >>750730157
    >IX gets only one despite aesthetically being closer to Disney than the other three
    Japan is funny sometimes.
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    >>750745123
    Nomura didn't work on it so it doesn't get in
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    >>750745186
    Pretty much. Vivi's barely a footnote character in KH2 at that, with fuck all personality. It felt like Nomura begrudgingly including FFIX because a higher-up made it a requirement. So he went with the character with the simple design that would be easiest to animate. So that he could go back to jerking of a dozen variants of Advent Children Cloud.
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    What an insanely fast butt
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    >>750745526
    >H-hayai
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    >>750745526
    >ZOOM
    >BRRRRRPPP
    >BRAP
    >ZOOOOOOOOM
    she can't keep getting away with it
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    >>750729278
    between this and iv 3d is my favorite FF
    dawntrail fucking ix up made me so fucking made i perma dropped xiv fuck you yoshi piss
    >>
    I thought disc 1,2 and early 3 were awesome but then the game becomes some sort of star-trek dragon ball, still pretty great, sadly character customization was pretty weak.
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    >>750742668
    idk how you think its worse than II, VIII, or XIII.
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    im glad the remake for it never materialized just let it stay as is
    no matter how "faithful" sqaure or whoever claimed it to be i know for a fact they wouldnt keep stuff like >>750743514 in
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    >>750746932
    >dragon ball
    It became dragon ball as soon as you unlocked trance
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    >>750742427
    >poast
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    >>750729278
    IX and VI have been overhyped for years by contrarians who wanted to shit on VII, VIII, and X. That said it's still a good game, I only played through it once so I'd like to replay it.
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    <3
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    >>750731882
    Maybe one of those little girls she looks after.
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    >>750747078
    The only purpose of trance was to have Garnet use it so you could see her wearing Terra's sprite outfit.
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    >>750729278
    First half is good, second half is meh, also tons of wasted characters
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    >>750732579
    If you didn't get the King of Jump Rope key item you didn't beat the game.
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    >>750731882
    Her own, she could kind of do a girl version of The Stranger by fingerbanging herself when she was in esper form.
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    >>750738651
    arr brack mages rook arike
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    Kill rats
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    >>750729278
    Worst PS1 FF game
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    >>750748197
    No.
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    >>750748254
    Yes
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    >>750748002
    god i love leotards
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    >>750747078
    True, but learning Zidane and Kuja are Saiyans sent to Earth to prepare the planet for Frieza (Garland) really drives that point home
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    >>750747078
    Director Hiroyuki Ito discussed the origins of Trance:
    >His stated inspiration was actually 2001: A Space Odyssey.
    >He described the scene where the apes encounter the monolith and develop the ability to use tools. His interpretation was that the monolith wasn't giving them a new ability; it was awakening something already present in their genetic makeup.
    >He connected that idea to Trance: an innate ability awakened by circumstances, representing a moment of evolution.
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    Ayo Hol Up
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    I have spoken
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    >>750749006
    >Shank
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    >>750729278
    The ending actually almost made me tear up. Very good story and characters and setting. Combat was pretty boring though.
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    >>750738732
    Show is coming about about Vivi’s kids btw.
    https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_IX:_The_Black_Mages%27_Legacy
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    You are not alone. Chills to this day.
    https://youtu.be/yUrC5R30Ofk
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    >>750749259
    neat
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    >>750729278
    Sex with Freya.
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