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    post dead games ITT
    pic very much related
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    >completely run out of ideas
    >just do Heavensward again
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    >>750726808
    they ran out of gameplay idea since hw so that's fitting
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    >>750726536
    WE DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO ANYMORE

    >end game has been logging on for the weekly raid and then logging out until reset next week since the games release
    >people's main complaint is that there isn't anything to do
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    >everyone hated Woke Lemutt
    >QUICK ADD A LOLI CAT

    hahahahahahaha
    >>
    >>750727057
    I liked Wuk but then again I used JP voices. I checked out the EN ones and can see why everyone hated her with the 3rd world accent.
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    >Evercold delayed
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    >>750727159
    shit character regardless of language
    even the nips can't fucking stand her
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    >>750726953
    The literal only thing they added was that 200 boss mode, unless they make the new "not savage" mode not hard then it will also end up as a dead mode
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    >>750727169
    HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
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    I really do not like the new savage gearing system.
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    >>750727474
    Its like they looked at the current model and said "this shit is too simple", now you if you want your bis you better farm that savage alliance and craft the final step!
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    >4chan hates it
    >xitter hates it
    >reddit hates it
    >official forums hate it
    >JP hates it
    >That One Retard: Yeah Evercold just won bigly.
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    >no kate

    RESET ERA AND BLUE SKY TRANNIES VERY QUIET OVER THERE. LOOOOL
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    I haven't played since ShB and was kinda looking forward to trying out this xpac, but both of the new jobs look really gay and everything else seems mid. I guess I'll make my decision when they show off evolved jobs. If it looks lame I'll pass.
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    >>750727745
    >no kate

    oh you gullible fool
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    >>750727762
    XIV died with Endwalker
    the story ends there
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    >>750727784
    dilate.
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    >>750727849
    TRVKE
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    >>750727057
    But it wasn't her expac
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    Are you guys preordering for “early access”?
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    >>750727849
    pretty much
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    >>750727849
    I got it but I never played it. I can't be bothered at this point, I'm too soured on how derivative the game has become and how awful all the jobs are now. I'm sure the story is fine but meh
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    >>750727879
    why?
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    >>750727849
    Yeah, even the game acknowledges that, everything from Dawntrail onwards its basically XIV-2
    >>
    >>750727879
    kys you gullible idiot
    >>
    >>750728000
    yea
    >>
    >>750728040
    who asked
    >>
    >>750726536
    Pokèmon Unite
    Mario Kart Tour
    >>
    >>750728089
    This is a discussion board faggot
    >>
    >>750728171
    not your blog
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    >>750728171
    nobody asked to discuss your personal life
    >>
    Based on everything we’ve seen so far, what lessons do you think square enix learned from dawntrail? Yes even wrong lessons.
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    >MMO that only exceled at the story (by MMO standards) and raiding
    >people get genuinely upset that each new expansion focuses primarily on story and raiding
    XIV has NEVER had good "other" content. Relic grinds are chores pf doing dungeons, FATEs, crafting, and raids. Diadem was REMOVED from the game the same expansion it was introduced, PotD and Eureka were divisive and still are to this day. It always loops back to raiding because that is generally what people like, but only straight raiding (EX, Savage, Ult) not gimmick raiding (Criterion, CAR, Quantum, Foray discord organization, etc)
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    >>750728000
    I'm faxing SQEX money right now just for the Köttr.
    >>
    >>750728000
    Early access? Access to what? There's no content.
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    >bastion is just a job based on a meme character from years ago
    >and a fucking crossbow

    oof
    >>
    >>750728205
    Discussing the game and my opinion of it in response to someone talking to me isn't my "personal life" you retarded newfag
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    >>750728213
    As long as the story is good then casual paypiggies will take anything up the ass
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    >>750727849
    they'll never top Venat either. Crystal mommy won the wolbowl so bigly in 2010 that they had to supermurder her.
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    >>750728237
    The evolved jobs, that alone might lead to some interesting stuff for some weeks
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    >>750726953
    >people are tired of just savage raiding
    >now you have to do savage every patch
    yeah they really fixed things
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    >>750728217
    >the game was only ever raiding
    >i'll prove it by listing all these non-raiding things they don't make anymore
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    >>750728213
    having everyone stand around like a failed theater playwriting while npcs talk. they changed to camera angles after that shit show.
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    >>750728318
    >crossbow
    its just a fantasy SMG
    they can't even get that right
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    How is it that after all this time their content cadence hasn't improved and they still haven't broken free of the patch formula that's been around since 2.0?

    Is the game run by a skeleton crew or something? I don't get it. Problems that existed in the 2.x patch cycle still exist.
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    >>750728460
    you dont even play the game secondary
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    >>750728000
    nope and its the first time I haven't since heavensward
    thank christ dawnshart broke the godawful spell the game had over me.
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    >>750728318
    what is wrong with crossbows?
    >super mobile fast shooting class
    >crossFUCKINGbow instead of a longbow
    besides games having no idea how they work that is
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    >>750728510
    Imagine being triggered by such a mild criticism of the game
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    >>750728383
    evolved jobs arent gated by owning the expansion lil gup
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    >Huge chunks of the fanfest keynote were already said at NA fanfest
    >Spend a bunch of time on explaining shit like "Seasonal gear optimization" which is definite dfifferent from tome gear augmenting, for sure
    Even the fucking press events are out of content. Didn't even have the decency to wish some shit out there that won't be followed up on like BLU update for Dawntrail
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    >>750728318
    Shame we'll never get a new job like that.
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    Evercold is looking to be even more peak and banger than Dawntrail. We're eating GOOD boys.
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    was the dawntrail fanfest this boring? what a nothingburger
    >>
    >>750728341
    shut the fuck up
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    >>750728318
    kek the crossbow is so fucking lame
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    >>750728642
    Yeah this year's fanfests have been pretty shit. A lot of wait until laters. They didn't even show off evolved any more.
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    >>750728705
    no alisaie is a huge plus. let the ec world breathe and become its own. calyx is trash and should have stayed in dt. .
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    >>750728705
    >>
    >potential expansion
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    >>750728705
    >>750728860
    kek this retard is so desperate to get into SE's good books after being banned for being an immature child
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    >fight random bosses from old dungeons
    >...the game is saved!
    wtf lol whos excited for this
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    >>750728869
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    >>750728918
    me!
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    >>750728783
    NA fanfest was good by their standards but not like the ultimate one. EU and JP fanfests were the worst fanfests they've ever done by a wide margin.
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    >>750728705
    >>750728860
    >savege alliance announcement
    >open his legs to square again
    Grim
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    >full trailer has fuck-all views

    big yikes
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    >>750729002
    it's so over
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    >>750728952
    kek
    >>
    >>750729002
    >release the same trailer three different times with 10 seconds more each time
    Yeah I'm not watching the new one either.
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    >>750729002
    i will watch that shit in game
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    >>750728568
    Weapons in this game are basically only for aesthetic because they don't even remotely try to differentiate themselves in function and are completely removed from their real-life counterparts so it's just MCH with different animations, except they went with the same CRAZY acrobatic shooting MCH already does, the only cool thing I saw was the bird gliding thing
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    >>750728904
    i'm glad he called kate and the tranny out and exposed mr happy for the cuck he is with his woke gf
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    Is it true lenneth got shown in the presentation? What was the context?
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    >>750729165
    good point actually
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    >pedo allegations within the community
    >new character is afucking loli catgirl

    o i am laffin
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    >>750726536
    >ShB is a massive unprecedented success
    >hit your high point at the same time your main rival and the giant in the industry is at their worst point ever
    >know what would be great right now? stop putting any effort into the game and put ALL the money into a console locked piece of shit
    >get giant login queues during EW launch
    >massively stifle your momentum
    >people who were curious about the game don't bother
    >console locked game flops LMFAO
    >spend even less effort on the patches because you're busy with a remake of a 30 year old game
    >30 year old game remake flops LMFAO
    >okay fine next expansion we'll do better
    >hire some trannies and let them wreck everything
    >fire your GOAT writer and replace her with some faggot who can only write blackhole sue characters
    >the expansion flops LMFAO
    >put no effort into patches because you're working on 3rd part of 30 year old game remake
    >>YOU ARE HERE<<
    >next next expansion flops LMFAO
    >3rd part of remake flops LMFAO
    name a more incompetent subhuman company
    >>
    post temu ysayle. my dick demands her
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    >>750729173
    Literally nothing. They didn't even refer to her by name. They just said in EC you will fight people including perhaps "this person" to a still image of her and they immediately moved on to housing after 2 seconds and that's no exaggeration. It was 1,000% her though.
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    >>750726536
    How did they do it? How did they kill all the hype people had for the new expansion after the NA fanfest? It needs to be studied how they are so fucking incompetent they managed to get people tentatively on board again and threw it all away with how fucking boring the EU and JP fanfests were, along with a month delay to the expansion release.
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    EU/NA cross-dc matching was the best announcement of the whole presentation
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    >>750729470
    Letting shaved head sex weirdos out of their dungeon is one of the worst change in the history of this game.
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    I could not be more disappointed with what I just watched at this fanfest. I wanted less raids, and more variety and it feels like I am getting the opposite. The showcase felt entirely filled with nothing but QoL and reiterating of stuff we already learned about. Stuff they could have easily just talked about at dev panels or left to later streams not to stand on stage in front of tens of thousands of people and act like it was somehow an evolution.
    No, this is just regular quality of life changes, things we been begging for literal years, expansions even. Quality of life should just be a constant thing in a live service game! It is outrageous yoshi stood on stage and made splitting some of the alliance raids into 2 split duties as some MASSIVE change/evolution of the game. This is nothing, this is cliff note level changes! Even the class looked meh, it was alright but nothing more or less. It truly feels like they have lost any level of competence to do anything beyond their current MO.
    I just found it hard to believe there was SO little for them to show. You said the classes were coming along why not show it? Why not just say work in progress subject to change like millions of other companies did and said hey here are some things to showcase. It does nothing but concern me that they have nothing much to show. I personally not sure how I even feel about evercold, the quality of life changes are great but and the end of the day it is just qol. The game was supposed to evolve not just improve current systems.
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    >>750729369
    NA was a smokescreen. They announced a bunch of big stuff but still can't substantiate anything 6 months later. It's obvious they're struggling to get the expansion out at all. Even with the month delay it's going to be a barebones rushjob.
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    The Evercold song is pretty mid, I had high hopes since the first teaser. The transition/beat switch at 2:52 into different part of the song is jarring as fuck, it doesn't feel cohesive at all. I thought it would flow better in the full version. Soken didn't cook this time.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mN8N5O5ru0
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    >>750728000
    can someone explain this to me? when you preorder, you get early access to the game, right? or is this the part that im getting wrong? Because I don't understand why there is an early access date and 'normal' release date - what do you have to do to acquire the expansion right now, and be unable to play it till the actual release date?
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    >Chaotic dead and buried
    Where are all the retards that said that shit was a success now?
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    >>750729773
    >It's obvious they're struggling to get the expansion out at all.
    Which is amazing because what they've announced is what? Quality of Life shit that should be implemented in patches, not selling features for an expansion. I mean fuck how in the fuck is splitting up Alliance raids why did it take so long of the presentation?
    Where was the information around how they're changing how you interact with the World zones? Nowhere to be seen but Quality of Life shit? Hours and hours spent on explaining the most boring shit that is instantly understood.
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    >>750729308
    wow weird
    i really doubt most people even know who she is lol
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    >>750726953
    You arent supposed to play mmos past that point, once you hit max level and have done every raid/boss/main quest you won. Its only the autists that cant move on that will keep playing at that point
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    >>750729470
    huh? they didn't nothing about that.
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    doomers on halloween shitposting lol what a life.
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    >>750728415
    No one did them
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    >>750728918
    Me, actually. A lot of old bosses are going to fuck over shadowbabs because they skip over all mechs due to powercreep
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    >>750730009
    shiteater malding about doomposters on halloween lol what a life
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    >>750730009
    Are you going to spend another Christmas defending Wuk Lamat dumpy?
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    >>750728217
    Diadem was good and fuck all of you assholes who took it from me.
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    >>750729953
    Remember how Arthars and Xenos said Chaotic was going to change raiding for the game? They're saying the same shit with the new raiding as well.
    People need to stop listening to those 'content creators' they are retards.
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    It has more than 10 years
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    >>750729953
    Only reason there's a vocal minority pretending to give a shit about this is because it had a fuckton of exclusive rewards and sellables. Has nothing to do with content. Raiders just want gibs.
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    no kate kek.
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    >>750730574
    she's still there
    you're delusional
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    >>750729827
    The first teaser trailer and music for it were really good, but when they added in the Amanda Achen vocals and the tone shift it completely ruined the tone and theming the first trailer had set-up, it's all over the place.
    This trailer today just felt weird, the music was so, I don't know how else to describe it but lacklustre.
    Compare it with previous trailers for other expansions (minus Dawntrail) and it doesn't have a consistent tone.
    It's like they set up the trailer with this darker themeing, darker fantasy feel and then they've undercut it with this upbeat happy go lucky tone mid-way through the trailer.
    Another way to say it, they had a threatening feel to the story and then they've said "don't worry everything will be ok because here's your disney vocals and cutsey character we can't have the world being too dark".
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    >>750730858
    holy sexo
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    >>750730858
    >alisshit
    >dumb headcanon take

    yea sure whatever.
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    Another anti-FFXIV thread after Fan Fest was yesterday?
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    VIDEO GAME GENERALS BELONG ON......
    Say it with me!
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    >>750727261
    It's supposed to be easier than an extreme, so I can't imagine it even being as hard as the first step of a savage.
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    >>750730998
    Go to a forum/ website with your native language. We're sick of you ESLs on here.
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    >>750731074
    >Say it with me!
    >>
    show me how you xiv it!
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    >devs have clearly completely stopped trying
    >only competition is classic season of fresh discovery+
    so uh
    what do we play now that mmos are well and truly dead
    >>
    >>750730858
    imagine how tight she is
    >>
    >>750731218
    yo is that goku
    >>
    Yeah Evercold just won bigly.
    >>
    >>750731303
    I was gifted a free week of Wow Forever so I'll try that and see if it's any good when it releases. I'm so disillusioned with FF14 right now after that presentation, if Yoshi's intention was to hype me up then he failed miserably.
    >>
    Look at crucible leaderboard, first place is unashamedly cheating (no items, no damage taken, no beast gear used)
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    >>750728237
    >Modern Retail WoW
    Nobody cares.
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    >>750726953
    >make content optional and gearing easy
    there’s nothing to heckin do (true)
    >make progression a grind with chores
    the game is a heckin chore simulator i feel forced to minmax!
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    >>750731353
    >she
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    >>750730986
    the song sucks Soken
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    >>750731540
    you say that as if there aren't a million possible compromises between the two extremes
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    >>750731610
    You're replying to an /xivg/ sexual degenerate. There's something mentally wrong with that 'person' you won't ever get a coherent reply from them about the game.
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    >>750731647
    Unfortunately not because MMO players are mentally ill and absolutely don’t know what they want
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    >>750731218
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    >>750731514
    Wow, absolutely no way anyone saw this coming. Not in XIV, an honest game for honest players.
    >>
    >>750731927
    >>750731514
    Mate why does it bother you how others play their game? So fucking toxic. I have a disability I can’t di crucible so cheats and mods help me.
    >>
    >>750731880
    right is hot
    my ex did that on my face
    i miss her dick so much
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    >>750731880
    literally me and bro xD
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    >>750731848
    >the game is a heckin chore simulator i feel forced to minmax!
    clearly refers to wowfags specifically though, not mmo players as a whole
    you also seem to be making some baseline assumption that the complaints stem from mainline progression being too easy, rather than the fact that side content is far too simple and comes far too late
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    >>750732180
    >her dick
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    >MMO players are mentally ill and absolutely don’t know what they want
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    >>750726808
    Heavensward was kino so I'm happy about this
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    >>750732259
    me too, I can't wait for Alphinaud to teach the loli cat about firewood xDDD
    and it's gonna be, like, SO sad when Ysayle dies again I'm already tearing up just thinking about it ;_; uuuuuuu
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    >>750729908
    You preorder to get early access to the expansion, it just unlocks the quest for you earlier, so you can play or even complete the expansion in that time if you speed run it.
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    >>750732363
    based xd
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    >>750732259
    >I'm happy they ran out of ideas

    good little consoomer
    >>
    >>750732259
    retard
    >>
    >>750732259
    same
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    How do the retarded lorewriters explain the fact that Ysayle in the 4th looks identical to Source Ysayle? Do their parents look the same too? And their grandparents? And all their descendants since the dawn of time? So does that mean they were all fated to meet and the possibility of an all-orchestrating God?
    >inb4 who cares
    I do. The lore is gay and retarded.
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    >>750732216
    >NO EVOLVED GAMEPLAY
    HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

    just play a single player game nigga mmorpgs were never for you
    >>
    >>750732605
    lame
    >>
    >>750732620
    Shut up and buy the next modernslop glam and hop on your flying motorcycle
    >>
    >>750726536
    do they really expect people to stay sub for months without any new content
    >>
    >>750732620
    Same reason a bunch of NPCs in S9 are people from the Source.
    >>
    >>750732620
    the same way they explained every reality having an alcoholic supersmith who's hopelessly indebted to a jewess
    now stop thinking and eat the slop already
    >>
    >>750732783
    Found the casual shitter.
    >>
    If all the casual players quit XIV, the game would only improve. I welcome EC for this reason alone.
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    >>750733138
    Because that worked so well in Dawntrail didn't it? You fucking retard.
    >>
    >>750733138
    Based! I love raids!
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    Ban mods. Save FFXIV
    >>
    >>750728705
    >>750728860
    >rest of ffxiv youtube completely silent
    Say what you want about the bald ginger retard but at least he just throws his genuine dogshit takes out there instead of waiting to see whether he's allowed to put a doomer or positive spin on it
    >>
    >>750733029
    throwing yourself at a single fight for weeks on end isn't much reason to stay subbed either, raidlarper-kun
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    >>750733195
    Modders are literally what are keeping the game alive lmao.
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    >>750733151
    Dawntrail catered to casuals and failed. Too many gimmick modes and AFK bot content. EC is just savage, which is all raiders want. No CAR, no Quantum, no discord organizer shit.
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    >>750733138
    No MMO would ever survive without the casuals.
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    >>750733195
    The only mod I use is that fast launcher, collectable timers, and shortcuts that bring me to the aethertye of whatever item I looked up.
    >>
    >>750733341
    At the cost of keeping the cancer active.
    >>
    >>750733363
    Raiders should kill themselves actually
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    >>750733138
    >evolved mode
    >fierce mode
    >gear further streamlined into nothingness
    >only actually new content is level-scaled dungeon bosses
    EC is shaping up to be THE casual expansion, what the fuck are you smoking
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    >>750726536
    Reminder to report afkers in Keybound Brawler.
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    Yep, dead game
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    Anyone know who made this?
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    >>750733259
    hi zeems
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    >>750733590
    looks like shit
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    >msqfags filtered
    >casuals filtered
    >midcore filtered
    >gamer dad casual raiders filtered
    >parsers filtered
    >barbie doll dressup fags filtered
    >anti-pedophiles filtered
    >anti-fomo fags filtered
    Holy f*ck! This is f*cking epic! Evercold is filtering people like never before! We f*cking love this! Thank you based Yoshi!
    >>
    >>750733590
    that's a child
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    >>750733590
    sick fuck
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    >>750733363
    >Dawntrail catered to casuals and failed.
    Oh you are retarded
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    >>750733793
    Wasn't there a paedophile ring exposed recently using the game to mod in their paedophilia fantasies?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfQkaCAkzyM
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    >>750733793
    >>750733816
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    >>750733561
    >catering to 7 fags
    >catering to HW fags
    >spent half the budget licensing a crossover with one of the most popular anime of all time
    unironically yes, the game is clearly dead as fuck
    >but muh crowd
    people cheered at picrel too
    >>
    >>750733550
    Why, so they can send you an automated reply about how they will investigate the incident? (they won't)
    >>
    >>750733480
    Buddy people are still going to parse grey with evolved mode, shitters are always going to be shitters who want to AFK.
    >>
    >>750733997
    stop or i'll get the cyber police
    >>
    >>750733997
    moar
    >>
    >>750733480
    >lies
    >lies
    >lies
    I can smell your dilating axewound from here raidtranny.
    >>
    >>750734147
    no shit retard, literally 60% of everyone parses gray
    that's how parsing works
    are you stupid or something?
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    >>750734271
    60th percentile is blue, actually.
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    >>750734310
    eh, same thing
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    >>750734310
    I doubt there are many players that are exactly 60%, the statement is probably true for most of the servers.
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    >>750734198
    no
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    It was really funny how excited everyone was when they showed the first slide that was like "alliance raids are designed in a really boring linear way with trash-boss-trash-boss-trash-boss", everyone in the chat was thinking they were going to add some diversity and mix it up and then the next slide was just "we took our boring cookie cutter design and cut it in half".
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    >>750734018
    I'm not saying I'm a GM but if I was, I could tell you that we're cracking down on it. I would say we had a whole meeting about it this morning. If i were one.
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    >>750726536
    If it's so dead, why can I log in RIGHT NOW and play a repetitive keyboard typing minigame that is a very blatant FF7RE advert?
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    >>750734271
    >>750734310
    I remember when I raided and was grey parsing and then went Purple parsing after about 10 attempts to kills at a fight. Looked in on the balance and saw every single person who was saying they were 99 percentile+ every single one was cheating/ using plugins.
    Looked into it more and found that that's the norm and not the exception. Kind of ruins the entire point of it don't you think when the entire aspect of becoming a better raider a better player is down to what plugins you have installed and how good you are at following orders given to you by the plugin rather than your own ability.
    What's the point I thought at that stage in trying to get any better?
    No really I've asked that of people before and they've never been able to give me a good reason why?
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    >>750734590
    This feels like something that would be a footnote announcement during the tail end of a live letter or patch note release, not a major announcement during fan fest. Wtf are these jap niggas smoking that this was a revolutionary idea to them?
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    >>750734663
    based lalaCHAD I hecking LOVE crossovers and minigames
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    >>750734663
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    >>750734741
    I'm not against them, I just want better
    >>750734749
    I love these, beeg funni
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    >>750734694
    there isn't a good reason and there never has been
    plugins aside, parsing is literally just a matter of practice and a way for spergs to pat themselves on the back for being good at something that isn't hard in the first place
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    >>750729773
    They talk a big game and do sweet fuck all for a while now. I still remember island sanctuaries being hyped up and it just being a miserable shitshow. Then they had the dumb ass criterion dungeons that were just miserable to play through multiple times, just literally worse than regular dungeons due to the constant speedbumps and samey bosses. But wait we'll do a new limited job with beastmaster! Except we suck and it's delayed to the last three months before the new expansion and we won't update BLU at all in the fucking Tural expansion...

    What faith could anyone possibly have in the future of FFXIV?
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    >>750734590
    It was grim. Granted, I don't know what a good alternative would've been.
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    >>750734694
    For me it was the P3S phoenix controversy + the M6S adds being the same, they just don't fucking count the adds phase of the fights, like why?
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    um so its just the same formula?
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    >>750735224

    yes, 90% raids, 5% delayed content, 5% broken promises
    >>
    >(And one more thing: for those wondering what comes after the Japan Fan Fest...while I can't give any details just yet, rest assured you won't have to wait long.)
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    I can tell Fanfest just happened because the hourly seethe threads with Google Images results are back
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    >>750735346
    that fucking vagueboy
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    >>750726536
    don't care about this game but i want more art of her
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    >>750735116
    I mean something, anything, that isn't just the same trash boss trash boss boss routine that they've done since inception. All this change really seems to do is make queueing for a "full" run more annoying and add an extra trash phase between boss 3 and 4.

    Dungeons are the same issue. Even just the base ARR had more interesting ideas with dungeons being more open so you could just pull shit in creative ways that modulated the difficulty to your skill level. These stupid fucking gates between trash waves are just tedious and limit any growth people might experience in running the same dungeons dozens of times. What currently motivates you to do better in a dungeon as a tank or healer? Nothing you do really makes the run any faster.
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    >>750735193
    Because autists will pad, but then on some fights they overlook padding (if you knew what to do, you could pad really hard on Zodiark orb add phase and Hydaelyn add phase for example). It's just bullshit, any fight that has adds I ignore parsing completely.
    >>
    >>750733793
    >>750733816
    OUT OF TEN!
    >>
    >>750734749
    Is that Jackie Chan?
    >>
    >>750726536
    WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING
    >>
    >>750735457
    kys
    >>
    >>750735346
    What did he mean by this anyways? If it was sticking to original launch which was going to be the 29th for early access and Februrary 2nd for full release from what they said (3 week delay) That's still not an official January release and still 3 months after JP fanfest which is how long the wait was before EW and covid and all that shit that made them lazy and take 9-10 months between X.5 and next expansion.
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    >>750735580
    no thanks, rajesh.
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    >>750733915
    it all makes sense now
    >>
    >>750735571
    yoshidder's ever-growing collection of watches and newhalf prostitutes
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    >>750735571
    Game is delayed because whatever cb3 is actually working on is getting all the dev time and dollarydoos.
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    >>750733915
    >xenosys exposé
    Suggest a different news-source. This one has a vested interest in bawling about The Community™ after people were clowning on him for getting himself banned through Xitter fights and being a dick in raids, just before DMU/UMAD.
    >>
    I do think it's a bad look that they immediately stopped showing planned content for the expansion because they couldn't commit to a second criterion and BLU update like they said they would for DT. They definitely don't want to be held accountable.
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    >>750734004
    >catering to 7 fags
    It caters to fans of every FF game at some point or another. It's an FF theme park, dingus. Besides, 7 is kinda underrepresented. There's really only a few store items and the Weapons in The Sorrow of Werlyt.
    >half the budget
    Why would it cost them anything other than the regular work it takes to add an alliance raid?
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    >>750735894
    7's not directly represented but it's hilariously prevalent in the actual metaphysics and setting
    Materia and the Lifestream alone make up a huge part of the setting's backbone, job crystals are visually the zodiac stones from Tactics but functionally they're materia
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    >>750732259
    It's a monkey paw, It's going to be so bad it will ruin your fond memories of HW too.
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    >>750735894
    >Why would it cost them anything other than the regular work it takes to add an alliance raid?
    because square enix doesn't own evangelion, retard
    you have to pay money to put someone else's property in your game
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    >>750736068
    I don't have many fond memories of HW, Alphinaud firewood and kicking the shit out of Thordan and CHILDREN OF THE LAND DO YOU HEAR are about all I remember of HW that isn't very negative from playing it at-release
    >>
    >no ultimate news
    >if ultimate and savage alliance co-exist, that's two raids players will need to prog simultaneously
    >yoshida also said they are planning on shortening patches back to 3-3 1/2 months
    >new gear system means you are on a constant gear treadmill if you raid
    >HYPOTHETICALLY if ult releases before savage alliance, you need to drop ult progress to learn savage and start augmenting your gear further
    >if savage alliance releases first, then it's a mad rush to get as much gear augmented and clear savage before ult releases so you aren't left behind
    I just don't see ult and savage AR coexisting with how things are set up right now. I don't think ults are gone for good, but it might just be a captstone finale for expansions going forward, otherwise it's going to induce a ton of rush and stress that everyone will complain about if we still get 2 an expansion and in X.1 + X.3/X.5
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    >so many people quit that they had to do a server squish and try to sell it as a feature
    Grim.
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    >>750736068
    HW was interesting, for me it was good, then boring with the Nanako shit, then good again till thordan, then boring till Nidhogg then good again till the end
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    >>750736213
    Ultimate being forced to take a back-seat on a raider's priority sounds fun for treating it as pure vanity content like it's supposed to be. That's making the assumption it's not just gone period since Ults take up a hefty chunk of resources and unanimously have their world-first race (the only part of an Ult anybody gives a shit about) cheated through.
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    >>750732259
    I don't want them to rehash a story from a previous expansion that's ass and lazy.
    It's like Star Wars how they rehashed a New Hope with The Force Awakens.
    The rehash will always be inferior and will always be compared, I don't like it at all not even remotely.
    >>
    Collecting every Ryne shard.


    >>750736213
    Will poopsockers ever be happy despite being disproportionately catered to?
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    >>750736582
    Best FFXIV girl and she should come back yesterday
    >>
    >>750736582
    Worst FFXIV girl and she should stay gone forever
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    >>750736582
    Medium FFXIV girl and she sould maybe come back
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    >>750736582
    Ryne is the hottest Final Fantasy character ever conceived.
    >>
    >>750736894
    That's not Tifa, Yuna, Shantotto, Y'shtola or Krile.
    >>
    >>750737028
    >Shantotto
    >Krile
    My nigga.
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    >>750736894
    agreed
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    >>750737102
    GILF tarutaru sexo
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    >>750737028
    >Tifa
    shit
    >Yuna
    shit
    >Shantotto
    shit
    >Y'shtola
    shit
    >Krile
    shit
    >>
    >>750737102
    problem?
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    >>750737242
    bro, she's like 12......
    >>
    >no Kafe
    It’s because they promoted her to such a prestigious position at the company that she doesn’t even have time to go to FanFest any more. She even pulls Koji’s strings now. That’s how powerful she is. Kate has collected the five sigils and ascended to Zereth Mortis to remake SQUEENIX in her image. Now… KNEEL!!!!!
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    >>750737284
    OUT OF TENNNN
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    >>750737316
    This is what it looks like inside LanselotTV's head
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    >Kate spotted at JP FF
    OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO ANOTHER WOKEFLOP INCOMING
    >>
    >>750737465
    Source? (I believe it though)
    >>
    Forever WoW is for everyone
    >>
    >>750736079
    Why? You're actively promoting and advertising their IP. Even if they did ask for money, I can't imagine it's much.
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    >>750728237
    You can do copperbell with your chocobo now?
    Holy fuck i'm resubbing
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    >>750737605
    Yeah they're expanding chocobos to be functional trusts in the future
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    >>750737526
    >Even if they did ask for money, I can't imagine it's much.
    lol
    lmao
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    Why the fuck is Alphinaud ovulating after seeing wol in the new trailer wtf?
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    >>750737664
    alphinaud cuntboy
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    >>750737630
    nah jk i haven't played the game in 3 years
    the only way they're ever getting me to resub is if they roll back to 3.0 and kick out all the wow players
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    >>750737664
    because he hasn't gotten his prostate flattened in the last 15 minutes and he's starting to get that magical itch again
    >>
    >>750737734
    buddy the wow players all left years ago
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    >>750737734
    >kick out all the wow players
    Most of them fucked off of their own accord before Endwalker was up
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    >>750728237
    >two tabs for out of game stories
    >tab for yearly event that's over a decade old
    >three raids with one of them just being a rehash until fucking spring
    >hurr but no content in XIV
    You dumb nigger in the same timeline ff14 gets new raids, new trials, new combat system, new battle system, two new types of pve content, three new types of rewards, a new reward structure, and entirely new zones instead of 20 year old memberberries.

    I know a wow player didn't make this shit, because they'd be too embarrassed.
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    >>750737630
    they should makle ryne a trust
    they should also let her follow us around like a chocobo and visit our player homes
    >>
    Would Estinien score this time?
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    >>750737881
    >instead of 20 year old memberberries
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    >>750737881
    I remember something about WoW players being pissed at *how fast* they're getting patches, because the patches suck as a direct consequence
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    >>750737517
    It was on twitter but I lost it. I think the guy is a semi XIV lolcow though, icon is a 16-bit skull with a sword going through it and he seemed pretty desperate to tag xenos so probably just bait.
    >>
    So, basically Fierce is another way to get dyeable Tome gear without doing Savage, and without waiting 4 months to do Alliances.
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    >>750738015
    >culture warrior hailing a bigger, fatter culture warrior
    Tale as old as time.
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    >>750732620
    The same way the warrior of darkness looked like (You) back in Heavensward.
    Reflections look alike.
    >>
    >randomly thought about "VOUCH FOR ME!!!" today
    Lol
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    >>750732489
    ok but?? this doesn't answer my question? what the HELL do you need to do to 1. acquire the expansion before the 'early access' and 2. NOT be able to play during early access?
    the early access IS the release date. There is no 'early access' bonus.
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    >>750737881
    >new raids, new trials
    Bare minimum copypaste shit
    >new combat system
    WoW revamps its rotations every expac like XIV should've kept doing after Stormblood. New rotations is a bare minimum feature. And we all know these ones are going to be dogshit.
    >new battle system
    Nigger is just babbling randomly now.
    >two new types of pve content
    Roulettes and 8-man savage aren't new.
    >three new types of rewards
    90% of which are going into the cash shop.
    >a new reward structure
    It's the same shit except raid rats have to run on their treadmill harder.
    >entirely new zones
    With nothing to do in them.
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    >>750738167
    in shortits just a dumb name they made and they act like the early access is a bonus despite being the true release
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    >>750738061
    Yeah it seems like a way to get you Savage's cosmetic perks compared to normal mode gear without giving you the actual statistical boost. I'll take it
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    >>750737986
    absolutely not, the yumejoshi foids would make love and deepspace look like a minor forum spat
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    >>750738072
    Hey bud, how's bioware doing right now?
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    >>750738156
    QRD?
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    >>750736079
    >you have to pay money to put someone else's property in your game
    Or you have to pay to put your property in someone else's game.
    Retards on /v/ don't know that Eva has been a cheap whore for almost its entire existence.
    FFXIV is advertising Eva, not the other way around.
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    >>750738156
    I often think about that one, the guy saying his raid static are just 1s and 0s so he doesnt have to care about their feelings, and Xenos going "NO LETS NOT TAKE A FUCKING MINUTE" to one of the other semi-famous raiders during tea but the name slips my mind right now. Just perfect vocal stims or displays of raid autism.
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    >>>750737964
    they should makle ryne a trust
    Well, she is one but you can only use her in ShB dungeon
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    >>750737465
    >>750738015
    I believe it because it's her name was still in the credits on the patches something that wouldn't happen if she was fired.
    But all the same I would really like some proof when people say this stuff because it's such a contentious subject, she's such a polarising figure that if she is still involved with the game it needs proof because the pitch forks are grabbed.
    >>
    i downloaded xivlauncher+dalamud and every punish plugin after yesterdays keynote, i no longer give a fuck.
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    >>750729908
    Wasn't there something like "FFXIV complete edition bundle" that they sell close to expansion launch that doesn't come with early access? You buy that as a new player and don't get to do expansion until actual launch date.
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    >>750737987
    >entire world map, abilities, music, graphics, raids, quests, playstyle
    vs.
    >four new raids with old characters
    Discord isn't sending their best.
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    >>750738346
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGdeJ7zAhEs
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    >>750727849
    It's like Avengers: Endgame. You can't milk things properly if you wrap things up so tidily.
    >>750728318
    We should have had a crossbow class since meeting the hunters in HW. Those guys are probably how they're going to introduce it into Hydaelyn lore.
    >>750729224
    There is legitimately not a gaming "community" that hits a million members that doesn't have pedo allegations or somesuch drama in its history
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    >>750738350
    >don't know that Eva has been a cheap whore for almost its entire existence.
    yeah, because they can easily rake in a lot of money by allowing brands to slap their characters on a box
    nobody's going out and buying a 37th blu-ray of End of Eva because of a colored razor, but there are absolutely fanboys that will buy anything and everything related to their favorite franchise
    >>
    You can easily tell that these last few threads are just a handful of incredibly mentally ill posters samefagging that’s the game is doomed
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    >>750738520
    ok pedo
    nice cope
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    >>750738156
    Holy shit lmao
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    >>750738478
    >20 year old memberberries
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    >>750738571
    >>
    the mobile gamefication of the industry is saddening
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    >>750738593
    kek
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    >>750737881
    You dropped your crown king.
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    >>750738489
    kek
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    >>750728318
    Zephyr's value is in being verbally identified as a pet job which means Summoner and Scholar stocks have never been higher

    Also the Sam Raimi = Samurai level bullshit involved with the Rhitatyn shirt since a zephyr or zephyrus is a westerly wind and he's fought at Cape Westwind
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    >>750738593
    dilate, tranny
    >>
    >>750738625
    IMO this looks worse than the preview
    >>
    >>750738625
    The fuck am I looking at? Is this AI?
    >>
    >>750738489
    KEK, what a little bitch
    >>
    >>750738242
    dang thanks for confirming because i legit thought i was missing something, that's actually just really gay
    >>
    >>750738593
    you're actually a retard
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    >>750738625
    HOLY FUUUAAARK 10,000 GIL IM RICH
    >>
    >>750738489
    jesus fucking christ im glad i use pf
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    >>750738593
    So what? Yes, I am one. And I am proud of it, go fuck yourself.
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    >>750738625
    >10k gil
    >Level 110
    You can't even repair your gear for 10k gil after a few fights. Do the devs even play their own game?
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    >>750738771
    It could have been worse, imagine if was those fireworks and shit they use to pad some treasures
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    >>750738240
    >Bare minimum copypaste shit
    Already wrong, they're entirely new design styles because of the new combat system and the death of the 2min meta.
    >WoW revamps its rotations
    Rotations aren't a combat style
    Classic to Mists is closer to what is happening in EC
    >Nigger is just babbling randomly now.
    Boss rush mode, Fierce raids, Savage alliance
    >Roulettes
    This is cope
    >and 8-man savage aren't new.
    It's double the amount and change in structure
    >90% of which are going into the cash shop.
    This is seethe.
    >It's the same shit except raid rats have to run on their treadmill harder.
    Nope. Raidfags get deterministic gear progression, casualfags get multiple ways to progress to raid level.
    >With nothing to do in them.
    World raids were confirmed in NA
    >but that's just big fates
    Already confirmed to be different than the boss fates that have been in the game since 2.x

    Sorry anon, I know it's hard trying to shit on the game after a massive series of positive announcements. Better to wait for a couple months so it won't be fresh in everyone's minds.
    >>
    >>750726536
    >see that thing we've been looking at for 2 months?
    >let me point at it in case you don't
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    >>750738625
    are they getting rid of the challenge log and roulette for this shit or what
    >>
    >>750738869
    >*hhuuuuuuf*
    >*hhuuuuuuf*
    >*Wheeeeeeeeeeze* Yup. A return to form.
    >*hhuuuuuuf*
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    >>750738934
    This is the replacement for tomestones in general
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    >>750726536
    The nails were put into the coffin with 2.0 when they redesigned it to die.
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    >>750738869
    It's easy to shit on the game because it's a dead game in a dead genre and real gamers are not playing this old garbage, they are playing hundreds of thousands of better games that will last them a lifetime without a subscription fee.
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    >>750738947
    The chad Yoshida photoshop of a Disney movie
    The virgin Yoshida AI generation of an anti-WoW meme
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    >>750738934
    Basically there's only one tomestone now, and there's no weekly cap.
    Although now i'm wondering how low levels are supposed to gear up without Poetics?
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    >>750738869
    >massive series of positive announcements
    >>
    No one is talking about crafters becoming meaningless for raid gear going forward.
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    >>750726536
    Evercold has at least 1, possibly more new lolis and hebes. Already solid expac.
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    >>750739039
    Crafted, dungeons, and normal raid still probably.
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    >>750739050
    don't crafters make most of their money from housing shit anyway?
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    >>750738869
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    >>750738526
    Yes. They do.
    Normalfags who don't know shit about it see it and check it out after enough repetition. That's how all advertising works.
    If it was so fucking expensive to have Eva on your brand you wouldn't make enough profit to cover the costs.
    You're thinking of merchandising, where they sell shit after the fact. This is advertising for the new shit being written by Yoko Taro, the exact same way the unpopular Nier series was advertised in ShB.
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    >>750739039
    I mean that's easy, they just give NPC vendors more stock bought with gil
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    >>750739050
    It's a good change. You can't just expect raiders to pay c*suals 700k gil for day one raid equipment so they can farm mounts/hairstyles to sell back to them for 20mil a pop.
    >>
    >>750738614
    See >>750738478
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    >>750739050
    I think people are shocked at how little they revealed for the expansion they don't really know what to say.
    All they revealed really was more bullshit about stuff we already knew or quality of life updates and that was their big reveals for Evercold, so people are kinda unsure what to think at the moment that they haven't really given thought to stuff like crafters/ gathers because they're still thinking
    >"wait is that really all they're going to reveal for the next expansion?"
    >>
    >>750739046
    No but you see savage alliance raids and 200 boss mode and uhhhhhhh you know are a massive series of announcements!
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    >>750737987
    >>750738614
    Cutlist status:
    [X] RAPED
    [X] GAPED
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    >>750732620
    I'm going to assume it's not actually her shard, because I resent that they keep pulling the shards looking identical despite immediately establishing in ShB that they explicitly do not look identical. And I was going to say it'd be like a Minfilia situation since Ysayle is referred to as the Oracle of Ice, but we see Ysayle dead in the Aitiascope, meaning she went to the Lifestream. So I don't fucking know.
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    >>750739050
    Aren't they needed for the final bis gear step? they still got some use
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    >>750739182
    >20
    >year
    >old
    >memberberries
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    >>750739050
    just go back and do 6 weeks of tier 1 and then 2 weeks of alliance savage to be ready
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    >>750738386
    >I believe it because it's her name was still in the credits on the patches something that wouldn't happen if she was fired.
    Her name would absolutely still be in the credits even if she was fired, because she still worked on the content.
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    >>750739193
    >Some people were unhappy we showed Solution 9 during fanfest so this time we gave you nothing!
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    >>750738983
    It's such a dead game that you needed to come here and remind everyone that it's so dead.
    Unlike a real dead game like Lost Ark or Phantasy Star, or WoW Retail where there's no threads positive or negative about them.
    >>750739046
    >>massive series of positive announcements
    Correct.
    If the fanfest was shit there wouldn't need to be fags rationalizing about why it's shit, they'd just laugh.
    Only good announcements need people trying to pretend adding two new difficulties is the same as not doing it at all.
    >>750739105
    https://www.youtube.com/live/IUtPVmCtltY?si=dx_gCy5WbyhIf9Ce
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    >>750738787
    Yeah, if you don't know relatively normal people, you get nightmares like this
    >>
    >>750739139
    >the exact same way the unpopular Nier series was advertised in ShB
    merely pretending, I see
    >>
    >>750739351
    >there wouldn't need to be fags rationalizing about why it's shit, they'd just laugh.
    anon what do you think we're doing
    >>
    Been out of the FF14 loop for like 3 years, what have I been missing since DT?
    >>
    >>750739514
    No you haven't, you're here for every thread lil gup.
    >>
    >>750739514
    >bad story that gets good again around 7.2
    >a few good EX trials
    >10/10 8-man raid series
    >good alliance raid series, basically a FFXI commercial
    >bad Eureka/Bozja zone
    >decent Deep Dungeon
    >a good "savage alliance raid" for the Cloud of Darkness
    >Beastmaster limited job
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    >>750738593
    got the pedos malding
    >>
    >>750739239
    >a gear set
    vs
    >an entire game that is the highest point wow has ever had since Lich King
    >these are the same to anon.
    Ok.
    >>
    >>750739514
    Nothing. DT is the worst received expansion and first expansion to have negative player retention consistently. The 8-man raid was good for a multitude of reasons, and some of the EX were a breath of fresh air, but nothing else was was worth it. I suggest a skip if you can afford it come EC.
    >>
    Did the QnA happen yet?
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    >>750739363
    >nier was nothing before automata
    >majority of sales came after ShB crossover announcement
    I guess math is pretending too.
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    >>750738809
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    >using the raid weapon with a full set of raid gear gives it a glow
    Goodbye relics
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    >>750739748
    >20 year old
    anon I'm not even going to bat for wow here, xiv is like 90% memberberries
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    >>750740037
    Did they say that you needed to do savage to get the glowy version?
    >>
    >>750739885
    >majority of sales came after ShB crossover announcement
    >source: my ass
    >>
    Kate won!
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    >>750740107
    Pretty sure it was heavily implied but they didn't talk about normal mode raid gear at all. I doubt theyre getting ride of the normal set but perhaps with the changes
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    >>750740037
    Statistically I wonder where this actually leaves relic weapons, because "controllable substats + materia slots" is supposed to be a relic's niche.
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    >>750740072
    You're still comparing references to an entire relaunch of a game.
    It's the difference between fighting a boss that looks like the Warrior of Light from ff1 and making the entire game from the ground up to be the exact same game as ff1 but with a couple bonus dungeons and a new job.
    At best you're disingenuous at worst you're a brainless nigger.
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    >>750740160
    lmao he actually did tag his masters like a hunchbacked minion. unreal
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    >>750740107
    >>750740037
    what was the thing they talked about a b and c effects toggling or whatever? i watched it but i already forgot the info
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    >>750739273
    >>750740160
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    >>750727661
    Wish I could put a bullet in every faggot that posts this disgusting AI slop
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    >>750740224
    anon what do you think "memberberries" means
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    >>750740151
    BEHOLD! MY ASS!
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    >>750740350
    >>
    >>750740316
    >source: This dude on twitter said his friend totally saw her (no pics) (no name of friend)
    >>
    >Yoshi-P believes that they’ve hit the reasonable limits of the design behind the Relic Weapon series, due to the ever-growing Job count and time investment required in these questlines, so there are plans to wrap up this kind of design with Dawntrail and do something different in the future.

    >Since there’s a big gap in feedback between difficulty opinions, the burden being too great, and so on, they want to move onto completely new ways of providing the fun of developing weapons and armour, so the current format will be put on break for now with more details to come in the FanFests.

    No more glowsticks for the casual plebeians while raidGAWDS get dyeable glows. Raid or get out.
    >>
    >>750740320
    This isn't a semantic argument, it's an argument of amount.
    You know this. I know this.
    WoW Forever has more than fucking Strangers of Paradise.
    It has more than the fucking pixel remaster.
    Why pretend otherwise?
    >>
    >>750740160
    Wait I think I recognize that skull, wasn't he one of the old Zodiark Trancers
    >>
    >>750736582
    the only reason I like ryne is because she's brainwashed into a dragonfucker shiva version of her.
    now that ysayle is back, you can keep ryne.
    >>
    >>750740350
    >games continue to sell after launch
    whoa......
    you have to show a spike in sales/players sometime after the announcement if you want to establish causality, retard
    >>
    >>750740451
    I'm not defending anything, I'm calling you a fucking retard for chucking stones in a glass house
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    >>750727849
    So glad I stopped there
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    >>750740407
    relicbros not this way...
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    >>750741004
    I'm sorta not broken up about relic weapons going away because they haven't been able to resist ruining them with a unified glow effect, and sometimes they're just "whatever" and don't pair with the artifact armor very well
    >>
    >>750728000
    Cute kot
    >>
    >>750740270
    It was about certain things on the job gear being toggled on or off, like the scarf on the BLM outfit or the collar on the VPR for those with longer hair who dont want it to clip.
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    >>750740407
    I actually do like that they are going all in on raid rewards that isn't just, more mounts or more plates. It puts a much bigger emphasis on raiding or learning to raid for cool stuff that isn't thrown in your vault and forgotten.
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    >>750740407
    that's a good thing though, especially with fierce mode letting you learn Savage mechanics in a lower-pressure environment
    >>
    Genuinely, who asked for Alliance Raids to be split into 2 floors? If they wanted to save time, they should have just did tokens for gear instead of random drops and increase the reward coffer amounts by 2
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    >>750741636
    JP players probably.
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    >>750741636
    It's for people who want a specific piece dropped by the first half or second half of bosses and don't want to do the whole rest of the alliance raid for it
    >>
    It's actually quite sad this game is going to go down as "that one gooner game that had a okay story at one point" Actually I can't even make fun of WoW rats anymore because they acknowledge their maze but ffxiv sissies are in straight denial about theirs.
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    >>750741925
    >Actually I can't even make fun of WoW rats anymore
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    >>750741967
    is this the average WoW sissy getting xir ass blown out by blizzard for having non-trans affirming names?
    >>
    triple cast gone
    specific abilities only castable in leylines
    >>
    >>750740407
    Do any of these lazy japs like to work on this game anymore?
    >>
    How are they going to change Reaper? Guesses?
    >>
    >>750742093
    they'll sow
    >>
    >>750742093
    mazed and caged
    >>
    >>750742093
    >111122111122333
    >left, right, back positionals
    >burst every one minute
    >arcane crest is now a 90% mit and tied to a damage cooldown
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    >>750742013
    I think triple and leylines are gone. As far as borrowing from PVP for PVE< I think BLM is one of the best suited to just take the kit 1:1 and throw in some extra skills or slight tweaks.
    >>
    >>750742158
    Heh...
    >>750742182
    This really does capture the average /v/ poster
    >>750742192
    It just has to be fun
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    Sex with Visna
    >>
    >>750742252
    no experience, boring lay
    >>
    >>750742306
    shalom rabbi
    >>
    >>750742252
    She's for Alphy desu.
    >>
    >>750742252
    that looks like a child
    this community is sick
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    >>750742396
    Alphi's balls deep in Visna while you're balls deep in Alphi.
    >>
    >>750742468
    OUT OF 10!
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    >>750742468
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    >>750742537
    based bald man
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    >>750727169
    >>750727326
    Is a 3 week delay supposed to be some sort of own or something?
    I don't get the laughs
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    >>750742537
    still having sex with visna btw
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    >>750742580
    there's that copium I've heard so much about
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    >>750742537
    "what were you doing at the witches' sabbath" ahh thumbnail
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    >>750742509
    I hate that I'm not opposed to this.
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    >>750742580
    Not much shitposting fodder going on. Most of the changes are too nitty-gritty for retards to latch onto for OHHH NO NO NO NO fodder.
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    >>750742610
    Is it?
    I'd understand mocking XIV players if it was like a 3 or 6 months delay ala GTA 6 but 3 weeks just feel like a nothing burger
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    >>750742856
    whatever helps you cope
    >>
    From the QA panel at Final Fantasy XIV FanFest:
    • The Zephyr's nephele familiar can change colors by giving dye to a certain NPC.
    • A new system would have to be built from scratch to be able to preview hairstyles, maybe for ones not yet obtained
    • BLM in Evolved Mode won't have Triplecast, Yoshida says it turns into something other than three instant casts & Leylines won't need you to stand in them for 30 seconds, but certain abilities can be used on them.
    • In Dancing Mad Ultimate, the new design used for Kefka is based on an idea that Kefka became self-aware that he is in a simulation built by Omega and therefore created an image of an all-powerful mage... but... that staff...
    • Savage drops will be individualized but those who have cleared helping you get your drop can do so. Those who haven't cleared yet will get a drop.
    • Almost every housing item will be compatible with the user interface update that allows you to float furnishings. There's a few exceptions.
    • While you can collect Adventurer Points for a previous week, you won't be able to collect them a week ahead. Yoshida say if they did this, people would fall into habits similar to the existing tomestone system.
    • (Asked about NPC date events) While I understand the request, what if it doesn't align what what you expect a date would look like? I'm not saying anything will happen to a given character, but if they were to leave the story, it would constrain us.
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    >>750731103
    Hmm if it ends up like that then i kinda of like it, i like to do extremes in PF but PFing the savages makes me want to kill myself, if Fierce is like a really light version of the fight it can go well
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    >>750742981
    >• (Asked about NPC date events) While I understand the request, what if it doesn't align what what you expect a date would look like? I'm not saying anything will happen to a given character, but if they were to leave the story, it would constrain us.
    Lol people are still asking on that, also wtf the date does not need to be with a relevant msq character
    >>
    RIP Planetside 2, there was no other game like it.
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    Wait a second..this is just Faggots Fagtasy thread not overall about dead games. Gargle my hairy ballsack OP.
    >>
    >>750743150
    >>750743125
    sorry bwo, you bumped into OP, the faggot who is obsessed with FFXIV's downfall
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    >>750743074
    the question was specifically about dates with alisaie
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    >>750742981
    >• Savage drops will be individualized but those who have cleared helping you get your drop can do so. Those who haven't cleared yet will get a drop.
    That's amazing
    Not being able to help other get their full loot once you got yours has always been fucking awful
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    >abel is still running 24 hour damage control
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    >>750743376
    basically means multiple characters to have raid alts is now obsolete
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    >>750742981
    >as you can see here you press manawall and it works as usual
    >but step into your leylines here and it becomes manawall 2 giving you...A 90% MIT
    >do you understand now what it means to evolve?
    >>
    >>750743387
    What are Abraham and Isaac up to lately?
    >>
    Fuck Off
    FFXIV was, and IS literally the best franchise ever. Fuck you guys, probably playing "Call of Booty" or "Counter Dikes Global Gayfensive". All of you nerds never spent time in the glory days of FFXIV, and probably never had a girlfriend.
    >>
    cosplay soon
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    >>750743371
    Ohhh that makes more sense then, i hope they do it one day
    >>
    >Evolved jobs won't be showcased until the next LL
    >Most likely near the end of November
    >Preorder for EC go on sale Nov 4th
    >Same day WoW forever releases
    Are the devs retarded or what?? Looking around the internet most people aren't happy with the fanfest. People don't think cutting araids in half and auto-walking should be a MAJOR feature for the next xpac, while they all want to see how evolved jobs play as they said evolved is the "future" of ffxiv but they've only showed us only one instance of evolved jobs back in April. Like are these devs out-of-touch?? I'm genuinely confused because you would think that showcasing evolved jobs would be their top priority in order to get more pre-orders. But people will be too busy trying to get into WoW forever to be bothered with preordering outside of the super fanboys. We're coming off a poorly received xpac and they're still doing the most minimal shit like HEEEELLLOOO???
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    >>750743392
    terrible news for the mentally ill
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    >>750743696
    nah even the mentally ill should be celebrating that. less annoying for everybody. savage makes you mentally ill by default
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    >>750743646
    she cute and her accent makes me diamonds
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    Is the AI webm schizo a jeet or that aussie abbo
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    >>750743486
    abel melty abel melty!
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    you guys have a happy halloween?
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    >>750743915
    Somebody trying to pretend to be the Aussie abbo
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    >>750743646
    redhead pussy
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    >>750742537
    Isn't he a pedo?
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    >>750744149
    I think he's one of those that likes to try and go as low as legally possible
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    >>750736582
    >>750736894
    she (along with her goth friend) makes my pp the big pp
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    >>750744149
    shouldn't you be in prison?
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    >>750744291
    my wife and her gf (also my wife)
    >>
    so with all these gearing changes do you still have to collect 3 sets of, now completely identical because you can change the stats at will, sets of gear to play all the melee? every other role you can just get by with one set and reforging to whatever is bis
    >>
    jej
    >>
    plap that dancer
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    >>750744403
    I assume that the only difference will be that your main job will have the materia melded slots and alt jobs of a different type will just be behind on those 3 things. Knowing YoshiP, you will also be cucked out of changing alt job sub stats until you get that gear itself in Savage.
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    >>750741925
    >WoW rats anymore because they acknowledge their maze but ffxiv
    lol
    lmao
    WoW players can take over a decade and a half of dogshit expansions and then go "BLIZZARD FUCKING WON" the second they shell out rehashed leftovers.
    >ffxiv sissies are in straight denial about theirs.
    That's why the devs had to make a statement asking the fanbase to stop sending them death threats the very second they released a bad expansion? The blowback towards Dawntrail was massive and universal, which is kind of conclusive proof that FFXIV's players are willing to criticize the game and give it shit when something is bad. It was enough to get the devs to actually try to course-correct.
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    i don't understand how fierce is supposed to let you practice savage if the difficulty is supposed to be below extremes. at that level, you can't have the mechanics work like in the savage mode anymore
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    big news for FSH
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    >>750726953
    Never played a mmo, but I imagine they're hard to maintain. Like, do you focus on early game shit to draw in new players or late/end game shit for the people who actually play the game? I would say the latter is a better idea, but most seem to do the former.
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    Check out what Bebop bought.
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    >>750733997
    I know you have a name I just can't put my finger on it yet
    Dunno why you're so keen on staying anon though
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    >>750745275
    Soulless
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    >>750738695
    >jacky
    THERE HE IS DUDE
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    >>750744393
    The fuck are you talking about?
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    you guys have a happy halloween?
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    Savage Chads won. Casual sissies coping.
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    >>750743646
    Those aren't the major features. The major features are cutting costs and putting the savings back into the shareholders pockets.
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    >>750745756
    accusing you of being desolance, xenosys's old stalker, whose court case for stalking and harassment xenosys milked for clicks and views before his lawyer told him to shut up
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    They just fused gnb and sge artifacts and gave it to vpr
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    >>750746094
    They gave up and gave it a Kirito armor set
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    >>750738625
    Funny. After I moved on from FF14, I ended up playing mobile games.
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    >>750745891
    I'm just happy that Raid gear are becoming actually stronger instead of having casual get the same ilvl as us by beating a 24man raid or following/botting a train.
    >>
    >>750745850
    welp, you finally broke me. i'm going to unsub now and play World of Warcraft: Forever now. thank you for pointing out the error of my ways
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    >>750746169
    >pay a extra 15 dollars
    >get stronger gear
    there is nothing good about this
    >>
    >>750746375
    I assume you're talking about paying the sub fee?
    As someone who never really stop my sub since I pay it by selling gils to my friends, I don't really care, heck if I can play more to get multiple sets to have the glow effect on them I'm actually happy.

    I usually just beat savage enough time to have my BiS, now that I have actually a reward for playing more, I'm happy.
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    >>750746217
    Personally, every time I see that image posted, I think about the irony behind him calling someone else a pajeet with an A.I. genned image
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    >>750746169
    What's wrong with casuals getting the same ilvl like two months after people who do savage?
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    >>750746739
    Because then the casual shitters can parse higher than me in content exposing me as a dunning kruger retard.
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    >>750746739
    Nothing "wrong" per se, it's just that it's a bit annoying.
    You beat some very hard content to get powerful gear, you actually play the game to get this gear.

    And a few months later the casual who don't even touch extreme fights get to be on the same level as you while all they do is getting fucked in Balmung uldah by a lv1 black viera called "bullungah".

    On top of the whole "nothing can be rare forever" anti FOMO thingy, it really felt like it didn't matter you know?
    >>
    I'm gonna miss the release date, bros
    It's so fucking over...
    >>
    >>750746907
    >let me just slip in my fetish for no reason
    >>
    >>750746681
    Is it AI generated? Could have just photoshpped it.
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    >>750747037
    I'm actually more into the shortstack femlalas but nice try.
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    >>750747168
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    >>750746907
    I don't think ilvl is the only gain you get from doing savage.
    You get the dyable glam version (exclusive for a raid tier at the very least) and a mount, and on top of that you also get to have ultimate rewards as well since people who run savage rarely skip ultimate.
    These are things casuals have to wait at least until the next expansion to get (glams and mounts) or will never get in the case of ultimates.
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    >>750747168
    >raidkek is a modbeast bbc fetishist
    to absolutely nobodys surprise
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    >schizo spent his halloween malding and ritual posting about 14, again
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    >>750747223
    You're right, it's a mentally I've got from previous MMOs I've played where the people who do content and the casual/RP players were never really on the same powerlevel.

    >>750747235
    BBW femlala maybe, not BBC stuff.
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    >>750745973
    I wish all content creators die a slow painful death.
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    >>750747239
    poopdickschizo is behind all this?
    >>
    >>750735894
    >Besides, 7 is kinda underrepresented.
    >Ultima Weapon
    >Werlyt Weapons
    >Knights of the Round
    >Guard Scorpion
    >Yinyang
    >Unknown (monster type is originally FFV but the one that appears in Anamnesis is from FFVII)
    >Kujata
    >King Mog (Mog appears as a character in previous games but as a summon/primal only in FFVII and FFT)
    >North Thanalan looks like Mt. Nibel and the ceruleum refineries there look like mako reactors
    >Costa del Sol
    >Gold Saucer
    >Seventh Heaven bar (with secret hideout)
    >Anamnesis Anyder resembles the City of the Ancients including the broad, layered coral on the outside of the main building
    >Meteor Project and Nael van Darnus of the VIIth Legion
    >Lifestream
    >Materia
    >Ceruleum (Mako)
    >DRK /bstance and male /cpose
    >SAM /cpose
    >Braver, Bladedance (Omnislash), Final Heaven, Dragonsong Dive, Chimatsuri (Bloodfest), Doom of the Living, Sattelite Beam, Breath of Life, Ungarmax, Greased Lightning, Cosmo Memory
    >Island Sanctuary OST
    >catboy shitter in the Ananta quests is a Red XIII reference with his father being petrified as he held back monsters
    >Fenrir motorcycle mount
    >Island Sanctuary motorcycle mount
    >Advent Children Cloud gear set
    >Most commonly used airship is the 'Bronco' type, a reference to the Tiny Bronco
    >Vauthry's design is a reference to Don Corneo, he's even called Don Vauthry in JP
    >Eulmore's Beehive is a nod to the Honeybee Inn to go along with Vauthry/Corneo
    >Hardy Daytona mount
    Honorable mentions:
    >Hades. He first appeared as a summon in FFVII but his appearance in FFXIV is more of a FFIX reference.
    >The Ancients. It's a broad enough term not exclusively connected to FFVII or even FF at all, but their role as stewards of the planet resembles the Cetra.
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    >>750735894
    >It caters to fans of every FF game
    except ff14 fans KEK
    >>
    >>750742981
    >In Dancing Mad Ultimate, the new design used for Kefka is based on an idea that Kefka became self-aware that he is in a simulation built by Omega and therefore created an image of an all-powerful mage..
    But it's Maduin. He's dressing up as Terra's dad.
    >>
    >>750744047
    Did you, cocobutt? Any trick or treating?

    Honestly I was disappointed by the fanfest news and trailer both. The only thing that was even remotely interesting to me was the housing size/layout changes. Still curious about the story at least, but feature & gameplay wise...not impressed.
    >>
    >>750746681
    Spoken from a true addict. Keep smelling the syrup and posting here 24/7.
    >>
    >>750742981
    The main issue they have with character dating is that it's hard to make scenarios that will please everyone and they most likely want to avoid people going batshit insane because they turned Alisae into a femdom or Yshtola into a semen demon.
    >>
    I'm actually glad for more raidfag content, I've lucked out into a really cool and good static.
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    >>750747589
    >Alisae into a femdom or Yshtola into a semen demon.
    ...but that would be 100% accurate?
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    >>750747550
    LTG is a deadbeat that needs to pay child support tho, that niggy is insane
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    >>750746979
    You're a casual, who cares in that case
    You only need to poopsock if you raid
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    Are you guys going trick or treating?
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    >>750738625
    Name a mobile game that looks like this
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    >>750726953
    >Reach current content
    >Stop paying sub and playing for two years
    >???
    >Return two years after
    >At least 60 hours of new content
    Wow, so hard...
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    >>750728237
    retoilet literally has zero value to offer, and it's no coincidence that blizzcuck goyshills like you only bring up forever in your jew-sponsored crusade against other mmos
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    >>750739239
    >20
    FFVII is nearly 30
    >>
    >>750738614
    Eva is 31
    >>750739239
    FFVII is 29
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    >>750732259
    I can cope myself into giving everything else a chance but sell me on how rehashing the HW main party overall does something good for the plot.
    I loved HW and had been cautiously excited for EC but now that we're here and it's clear we're really doing Alphi Estinien and !Ysayle again that's what killed it for me.
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    >>750750647
    Having less characters and not requiring everyone to be around just to fill trust spots is better for the narrative. But not-Ysayle is retarded.
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    https://youtu.be/WiVABiUttiw
    start working on those norse glams
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    >>750750694
    I'm fine with less Scions, but I'd like a curveball instead of a pair we already had, and then not-Ysayle...
    I'm sure it can still be fine, but I don't feel I owe myself to play it anymore.
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    fake ysayle is hot
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    >>750728705
    thought this guy got banned
    >>
    >>750738593
    Ok smashy
    Sorry, pokefag
    Sorry, undertroon
    Sorry, robloxnig
    Sorry, minecraftard
    Sorry, blizzdrone
    Sorry, FGCnigger
    >>
    >>750747589
    >they turned Alisae into a femdom
    Cock is so fucking hard rn
    >>
    >>750750780
    >fake
    I hope they address that. Would be a nice source of friction for once.
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    >>750740160
    >Kate
    >still employeed
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO3zXu9sFOU
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    >>750740160
    her being there doesn't necessarily mean she's still employed at SE but I wouldn't be surprised if she is considering what a dogshit company SE is
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    >>750742981
    >(Asked about NPC date events) While I understand the request, what if it doesn't align what what you expect a date would look like? I'm not saying anything will happen to a given character, but if they were to leave the story, it would constrain us.
    why does he think the waifus/husbandos you wanna date need to be involved in story? just give me some hanamatsuri date in a completely optional, voiceless side quest with my wife Yugiri back in Doman Enclave and I'll be a happy guy

    it's wild that XI trusts could have flirty lines with (You) but somehow they couldn't do that in this game
    >>
    Video game generals belong on /vg/
    Tranny faggot generals belong off the site
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    >>750751805
    Funny, didn't see you crying here >>750721064
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    >>750751717
    This. Let me hit Kan E and Raya O's padjali peaches.
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    >>750751805
    >>750751978
    or this one

    >>750741101
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    >>750752124
    >>750751978
    be the change you want to see
    ironically i saw someone do that earlier so they took my advice
    death to mmofags. please play a real video game
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    >>750752145
    >retards thinks people can only play one genre

    shut the fuck up you stupid cunt
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    >>750752145
    kys
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