You guys did it! Mina saved Yacht Club :)
>>750713869Maybe they wouldn't have blown millions of dollars if they didnt have their jewdio in an expensive commie cuck city?
>>750713869>THEY MAKE GOOD GAMES, BUT I DONT AGREE WITH THEIR POLITICAL BIAS NOOOOOthis is the mindset of the average /v/irgin btw
Why does she not wear pants?
>>750714182easy access
>>750713869This is emotional blackmail. They're setting us up to take the responsibility from them when they go bankrupt.
>>750714114>THEY MAKE GOOD GAMESThey barely make any games at all
>>750714114That’s why /v/ hates games, because conservatives don’t make games.
>>750713869>for now...
I bought this game because I'm based and support developers, but ultimately it wasn't that good. It has barely any puzzles and is more of a Souls game in top-down than anything. The story makes no sense, the music is alright, the areas look good, but the combat is such a drag and the forced Hollow Knight style charm system where you get to equip SIX out of SIXTY trinkets that have clear correct answers sucks any fun out of experimentation. I don't know what they were thinking.
>vaccine analogy
>>750713869mussy is just that strong
>>750713869Time to hire 100 more developers to sit in our office in california every day for 5 years.
>>750714770quality > quantity
>>750714775>conservatives don’t make gamesChris avellone confirmed why, although it makes you troonycuckies look very very bad so you might have a melty if you look it up
>>750715137Worked for Bioware until it didn't.
>>750713869>shot in the armWhat a weird way of saying shot in the foot
Maybe now they can quickly shit out Shovel Knight DX, I know Yacht Club takes their time but damn.
>>750713869oh thanks for the reminder. just bought a copy together with squeakross. im on a rodent kick lately
>for nowgood, it means they won't survive long
>>750713869I didnt even know it was from the shovel knight dudes>tranny settings are up nextdodged a bullet there
>>750714114Actually it's "they make ok niche games but decided moving to an extremely expensive office in the usa (from australia) after a single unexpected commercial success was a good idea".
>>750717162It's bad because it's not vidya, nigger.
Physical soon Mouse friends!
>>750714062Also, making the MC trans.
Just make your main character a furry girl.Why don't devs understand that?
>>750713869That's good. I worry about their games standing out as much as they used to (same problem all indie devs have now), but they make great games so I hope they keep it up.
>>750717050>it's their fault they're successful after proving it twicei guess, bro
>>750714775>because conservatives aren't allowed to make games.fixed.remember Domina? I remember Domina.
>>750713869Ofcourse. Its goated. All talk of poor sales or whatever is just 4chud larpery.
>>750714840>Hollow Knight style charm system
>>750717502>acquire a lot of money>lost it within 5 yearsWhy does this usually happen for people that acquire millions of dollars that they're not used to having?
>>750717502>being successful means you have to waste all of the money you made to prove how successful you are
>>750713869>randomizer>in a game that lacks a proper map that doesn't force you to go to your underground lab every fucking time you want to check it.As if navigation wasn't insufferable enough
>>750714114the average /v/ermin is a third worlder who only plays gacha games
>>750718479>>750718494you seem upset. they won and made their money back btw.
>>750718527Skill issue (kind of). The map in this game is actually not that large. You should have it mostly internalised before beating your first playthrough.
>>750713869They'd be doing a lot better than "surviving" if they hadn't given millions to BLM.
>>750718647that flavor of sexual dimorphism should be punishable by death
>>750718647Never happened btw
>>750718647>gachaslop and culture war garbage in the same postthere is a 90% chance that this poster is from a third world shithole
>>750718609They made millions with shovel knight and are now teetering on the edge of financial instability. If they were winning, they'd have more money now than 5 years ago, not less. They also moved out of the expensive office, because it was always retarded.
Honestly amazed it hit sales targets and will let them survive
>>750718647Any dev who does this shit is cowardly and will have to accept 11% less sales over the game's life span than they would have gotten.
>>750718609>you seem upsetIt's a phenomenon that happens to lots of lottery winners. I'm legit asking what these people are thinking, I don't give a shit that you're having a sealion contest with some other fag.
>randomizer speedrunner faggotryAfter you make the ending something that feels like BAD END or cliffhanger at best, your job is to have an expansion or update, not random make your own fun faggotry. That's fine bonus content, but add what needs to be added to the goddamn game
If there's no actual progression with abilities and you can do the dungeons in any order, what's the point of a randomizer?
>>750714114>BUT I DONT AGREE WITH THEIR POLITICAL BIAS NOOOOOI don't think saying they shouldn't have their studio in the most expensive part of one of America's most expensive cities is a political opinion.
>>750719324Rest of the game always pointed out to a fairly bad ending. No idea why you'd want a feelgood end where you fix everything and everyone is happy.
>>750719485stop pretending. you fags only give a fuck only cuz they donated to that blm charity or whatever the fuck.
If they were so hurt for cash why did they give half their money to black lives matter
>>750715427Avellone is not a conservacuck, he's just not a lunatic
>>750719567I didn't even know about the blm stuff until after the headlines of them moving out of their california, or wherever, office.
>>750713869>for nowNeatly tucking their little guilt trip back behind the breakable glass I see.
>>750713869HAVE NO FEARS WE'VE GOT GAMES FOR YEARS
>>750714114Mina is just ok
when will Mina's boyfriend be playable
>>750713869Is this game any good?
>>750720540If you like top down action adventure rpgs, sure. Otherwise, no.
Be lucky and hope that 2027 doesn’t require more souls for the Chud GODS
>>750720540I really liked it
>>750720639How does it compares to something like alttp or tunic?
>>750719556The issue is that the bad end is contrived -you can't really see or change the very obvious heel face turn, you can't change your path earlier to change the trajectory of the ending etc.. its just locked into a bad end for no good reason.
Mina is Spooky?where, it's just a mouse in towns
>>750720813it's more action/platforming focused than puzzle focused
>>750720813It's not really much like Zelda, there's obviously some influence but it's really more like a top down Castlevania mixed with aspects of Shovel Knight>>750720972>bad endI think you may have slightly misinterpreted what that scene was meant to convey
>>750720813alttp absolutely clears it.mina still a good game though
It was crap though
>>750720972You say that as if endings choice was an overwhelming norm in videogames.
>>750716231A shot in the foot doesn't help you stay alive, it's crippling.
>>750721349Shot in the arm means you only have two weeks to live
>>750714840The story makes perfect sense. You got hired to fix the generators and instead you went around vandalizing property, assaulting innocents, and even murdering some
>>750720540>game>goodthere are no good games
>>750714846Shot in the arm is in reference to a vitamin injection retard.
>>750713869Why would anyone want to play as vermin? That's pretty gross.
>>750722276Vitanim injection is both weird and makes for a terrible analogy for helping you stay alive anyway.
>>750713869Can we get a Shovel Knight sequel now?
I don't like the implication I'm obligated to help them
>>750713869Has the same energy of S-E saying WE MADE IT when FFXV sold 6 million copies after previously saying it needed to sell 10 million to break even.
>>750713869>no dlcit's never been more over than it is now
>>750713869I don't think i was a bad game but it's kind of insane they "bet everything" on a gameboy color gameAlso, not to be picky, but with does a gameboy color game take so much time to make? Just from the anouncement to release it was about 4 years and they should've been working on it for a while before the announcement, why did it take so long?
>>750723393From what I remember, there where a bunch of other projects around shovel knight which ended up cancelled or in dev hell, leaving mina as their sole project and the reason they had to bet everything on it. Think Bungie and marathon kind of situation.
>>750723603I liked Shovel Knight too but i also think they shouldn't have gone as hard as they did with it trying to spin a franchise from nothing, maybe wait for Shovel Knight 2 or 3 for that
>>750723603Also thanks for telling me anon, i didn't thought anyone would bother answering
>>750717502You didn't see Team Cherry crying that they were on the edge of bankruptcy and NEEDED Silksong to be a smash success to save them. Because they didn't. Because they weren't retarded with their Hollow Knight money.
>>750720972>bad endThe "Good end" is agreeing with a monster to let the entire island decay into a nightmare as long as the city is lovely to live in. If the farms can't farm and the countryside is making giant monsters, how nice can the city actually be to live in? The "Good ending" is an easter egg for speedrunners.
>>750723873All the other stuff (Plague Knight, King Knight etc) was kind of a Shovel Knigt 2
>>750713869Shovel knight 64 next, right?
>>750723603>>750723985iirc they were working on a 3d shovel knight game and development stalled so they switched to mina
>>750724503after $2M goal kickstarter
>>750720540It's a good 2D Zelda. Very wholistic and creative. If you played A Link to the Past or Minish Cap you should apporximately know what you're getting in to
should have let them die
>>750713869Is this game good? I need a new game to play and it's pretty cheap
>>750725409It's pretty boring
>>750725409It's alright. Pretty meaty for the price but I didn't really feel inclined to 100% it or replay it.
>>750714114Aside from the lame BLM support, I don't have much against them, personally.
>>750725409Do you like 2D Zelda? If yes it's good.
>>750714062It's mindboggling how utterly idiotic the average indie dev who struck gold is with money, like it's okay you got a gorillion money from the game, but don't fucking first thing you do is renting a 100k per month or more shit in the most expensive city in the world.
>>750725284I only played Link's Awakening and the Oracle games. Guess that's a skip.
>>750717162>Explain why BLM is bad without being racist.They stole all the donations money to buy themselves and their families expensive mansions in the whitest neighborhoods of the US
>>750720540I never played it, but based on the Steam Chart I can confidently say that it looks like most people boughted it to prove a point to chuds, launched it once, and then never played it again. 13k concurrent on release, but then under 1k in a month. If it was good people would be playing it.
>>750713869I hope they go under.>>750714114These people support violence against us. We are in a war.
>>750725612I'd argue most people upset at them don't care that much for the BLM stuffTheir actual wrongdoings are:>Renting an office in one the USA's most expensive district>Living it up Hollywood style, burning through their funds>Moving out of said office when cash ran out and having to shamefully sell all their furniture (and a fancy grill)>Not releasing a single game that entire timeIf you're gonna blow your savings like that anyway, just up the salaries or something. That was the dumbest way to use their Shovel Knight money.
>>750725612They side with the journalists instead of the players
>>750725882I pirated it. It's good, in the niche genre that it is. It still implies that you need to like the genre in the first place.
>>750713869>No DLC>Only game in the pipeline is a remake of the base Shovel Knight campaign>Remember they tossed all the 3d devs since they had to go all hands in on Mina so Shovel Knight 3D is abandonware right nowSo with the base rate of dev pay along with office upkeep and office rent, I give the Yacht Club fags about three years. Two if they decide they want to virtue signal and donate to retarded scam charities again. Tick tock on a NEW game Yacht Club. TICK TOCK!
>>750726267Cheat modes used to be common in games. I used to play Duke Nukem with god mode on. I don't resent them for putting the code in.
>>750725882i bought it on switch
>Shills desperately trying to shill their BLMslopKWABMIna was a failure KEK
>>750726510Why don't they just use AI to stitch the 3d game together?
>>750725882>caring about playercount in a singleplayer gamei shiggy diggy
>>750725723Whats even the benefit? Access to more indians for codework?
>>750714114>THEY MAKE GOOD GAMESI never said this
>>750718863>>750719567Which is it? Are we crazy for saying they did or is it true and its actually a good thing, studies show, experts say?
Was a fun game though the difficulty curve was backwards for some reason
>>750719657not that anon but centrists were getting gutted from studios for just having social media that wasn't completely PC with the leftist politics of 2018-2022it created an entire cascading effect of silence at the company about any criticism of anything
>>750727378Do you also say this to your discord xisters that post baldurs gate 3 numbers?
>>750727607Agreed, as soon as I realized the synergy between the DoT one and the big jug the rest of the game completely folded.
>>750725612>aside from supporting blacks killing you and burning down your homes and businesses i dont have much against themyou dont have much against anyone then
>>750721315It is quite prevalent and has been for ages, especially when the shitty seeming ending is the default one. The days of having no choice usually meant the ending was >congratulations hero you defeated the dark lord and finished the quest! When you finished A Link To The Past you didn't have everyone hate you for going to the Dark World and the fact that you finished the Ice Palace meant that their air conditioning didn't work anymore, despite Link coming from a heroic line of AC repairmen. >>750724243The issue is those shouldn't be the only options, an that's why we need an expansion / update. Hollower tech should be able to find a solution that works to ensure the city is comfortable, without ruining everything else. Also if Mina could have seen the face-heel turn early enough she could have been less trustworthy of everything well before it got to that point and had to make the choice between one or the other (which isn't really a choice for most players who aren't on a very specific speedrun)
>>750727654>it created an entire cascading effect of silence at the companyAt Yacht Club? Grim stuff.
>>750727760I did everything with the blaststrike maul, it was pretty fun and I loved the combos. I used the daggers + chain combo dmg trinket for an optional boss but that was it. As for the difficulty curve, yeah it felt backwards to me. I remember doing the beach area after the cemetery and it was a little tough but everything else except the final area was easy.
>>750725995>we are in a war.
>>750727908There was no massacre, anon. And that aside, my hate for BLM as an organization is far greater than stupid liberals who were gaslit into thinking they were actually a monolith for all blackness. Stupid liberals are very, very common.
>>750727391>Whats even the benefit? Access to more indians for codework?They get to live their dream of making it into the holy land for leftists.
>>750714114I just don't think an indie studio with no major publisher backer and inconsistent output should be working out of Santa Monica. Like even staying in Los Angeles would've been a smarter financial decision.
>>750721349>A shot in the foot doesn't help you stay aliveWow it's almost like the game was overhyped garbage that almost made the entire company go under and now they're barely scraping by
I just want to say that I liked DLCs to Shovel Knight. They were janky, but still worked.
>>750728903How did it nearly make the company go under?
>>750729454The menuing in Plague Knight's was straight awful, though I liked the gameplay between it. It would have been greatly improved by letting you set 3 custom potions and using the bumpers to cycle them or something.
>>750714775>conservatives don’t make gamestroon delusion"conservatives" have been making art since the dawn of time, renaissance and all that shitif art has political alignment, it 100% isn't "delusional frankfurt school weimar refugee marxist follower"games specifically have been made by normal people (which you mislabel as conservatives to avoid referring to them as normal to not highlight your abnormality) since their conception
>>750728798>Santa MonicaReminder it's expensive to live there because it's mostly a white area. The less blacks the higher cost of living.
>>750729754In a later update they added a quick select menu for PK, you hold a button and it brings up a thing where each D-Pad direction corresponds to a bomb component and pressing a direction cycles that part.It's still a little too stop and go for my tastes but it's much better than it was when he launched.
>>750714114I can seperate the art from the artists if the artist keeps their shit out of their games.Note: most game devs dont so this
>>750730941What does this mean for Santa Monica studios
Was Shovel Knight even any good? How full of the woke stuff is it?
>>750731305if you dont give a shit, then i'd at least recommend checking out King Knight's campaign. it's the most fun one.
>>750731305It kind of did try to "subvert expectations" because Knight's love is a fighter herself, but you still do save her and have a coop final battle.
>devs recently said they plan to make an art book and more merchThey should make a nendoroid of mina where you can have her wield the weapons in the game and give her a platter of cheese or something
>>750725723If u make alot of money then u r always gonna make that amount of money forevever. Buy New York real estate hire 100 new employees then u cna make 100x money than before! Its thag shrimple.
>>750729743They kept delaying it and the money was running out
>>750731624>thag shrimplGeorge Lucas ah name
>>750714775>conservatives don’t make games.He says when Scott Cawthon, an honest to goodness Christian, came up with one of the biggest hits in indie history
>>750731305The major DLC campaigns are significantly better than the base game, but the original is good. Honestly across the whole set of campaigns the only "woke" things I can think of are>possible implication that Propeller Knight may be bisexual(?)>there is one woman who fights>the genderswap mode options have an option for gender neutral terms in dialogue>there is a black woman in a relationship with a white man
>>750719567Isn't that a pretty retarded thing to do when you're struggling financially? And for one of the shittiest options out of all charities you could donate to? Sounds pretty dumb dude, I don't think you need to blame me for that either if they're not doing well. I dunno about you, but if I've got money I'm putting it towards financial security and keeping my family fed and happy/
>>750718756retardit's arknightsthere's women like that, too - I think these are father and daughter or grandpa and granddaughterin the lore everyone has animal features regardless of sex, but very rare ones are full on furries, there's female furries, too, this isn't dimorphismalso you sound like a troon/femcel
>>750720540If you like Zelda, Bloodborne and Elden Ring. You'll like this game.
>>750727580it was like 20k at blm's apex.basically spare change for a company that big.
>>750733567right it's ok to throw money away that could feed a nerd for a year because it's just chump change
>>750719556nta but i think the ending wasn't framed that well. when i got it i thought it was the "normal" ending and i had to do something to get the "true" one. it wasn't very satisfying even if in hindsight it makes sense (it clearly pushes a "there's unrest now but what you did was ultimately good" message).mina's problem is that the writing simply isn't that good.it's also retarded to consider the lionel ending seriously because that's so obviously an easter egg.i don't even understand the seethe behind the modifiers, it's not like the game very clearly tells you what the "intended" experience is.>>750733654i never said that, just that crying about blm donations from 7 years ago and pretending it was a continued, million dollars pledge is retarded. 20k don't get you a lot in terms of professional dev time.
>>750733858I resent the idea that "it's just money" while a lot of taxes and in this case private money get thrown into garbage.
>>750714114They want me dead, so I want them dead. Simple as.
>>750723393what others said and the interconnected world do-in-any-order setup proved much more complex than they thought.same reason why after dark souls they never tried again to do a truly interconnected map, going for more linear stuff.
>>750733998what? you heard "kill all nazis" and you got offended? kek.
>>750734062You will never be a woman.
I don't think tax man was as lucky
>>750727908is every person donating to scammers responsible for what the scammers do?
>>750733949If wasting 20k on good boy points is what bothers you you might as well ack yourself now because whoo boy you are not ready to see what true money waste is.
I honestly didn't buy the game because of the whole "IF OUR GAME DOESNT SELL WE'LL KILL OURSELVES" thing. It was obvious the game was probably going to do fine, it just felt like dishonest marketing. Just like this.
>>750734289I wish I never learned this.
>>750734289anon I hate to break it to you but I don't think anon sincerely cares about money being wasted
>>750734165>doesn't deny ityou're all so predictible. LMAO.
wtf they shot the mouse? why?
every single fucking thread was filled with troll niggers telling us the game failedhonestly we should clog up the catalog for like 5 days with this just to pester the retards who viciously ruin every thread
>>750734472nice psyop.
>>750730979I was not aware if that, maybe I'll give it another go through. It was my favorite to play on a moment to moment basis because of how insanely mobile PK can be
>>750734472>honestly we should clog up the catalog for like 5 days with this just to pester the retards who viciously ruin every threadThat didn't make Poke All Toads successful and it won't make Troona the Follower popular either. You lost. Game is a flop.
>>750725723That's not the average. The average indie dev runs with the money if they ever manage to become the FOTM inde darling.
>>750734673>Y-you lost.Yeah, you did. Yacht Club lives another day and here you are still seething about black people.
mina still outsold and will outsell shitted floppedmaidens doe
>>750725723America's game devs are almost all centered in Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Seattle. Your only other options are major Texan cities or NYC, both of which are hardly cheaper and you have a smaller talent pool
>>750714840The exact opposite for me, pirated it because I'm based and want the industry to collapse but ultimately it was Game of the Year.
>>750732042Christian =/= conservativeA friend of mine works in the Protestant church and believes in universal healthcare.
>>750714114Leftists are funny because they'll randomly come out and say shit like this unprompted because they're soultrapped by the Luigi Cinematic Universe.
>>750735729I agree with the sentiment but American Protestants are so far removed from Christianity they might as well be their own religion.
>>750730389What are you talking about. Artists have always been more progressive than the standard person regardless of was. The desire to create art is connected to having a vision, and conservatism is all about keeping things as they are or bringing them back to a mythologized version of what they are. What’s hilarious is that there are real conservative artists working now, but they always make stuff that pisses off chuds. Christoper Nolan is a recent example. He made his final Batman movie about how “Occupy Wallstreet is bad” and “we must protect the wealthy”, very conservative positions, He made the odyssey movie in a way that suggested the least amount of magic possible, also very conservative. This still pissed off chuds because a tranny was cast in the movie. Chuds can’t even recognize when art is conservative.
>>750735923No church is really connected to what Christianity is supposed to be about because no Christian church preaches against usury.
>>750735920>NOOO STOP NOTICING BASIC 4CHAN PATTERNS. YOU'RE A SCHIZO!!!sure, bro.
>>750735729He was a republican retard. Even got canceled for making donations to several republican politiciansAt least look shit up before opening your retarded mouth
>>750714062Fpbp>>750714114I don't want my money being spent on donations to domestic terrorists.
>>750736003Usury is a flawed concept to become with, you christcucks can't even wrap your head around the time value of money. Stupid goyim.
>>750718272Nothing is stopping you from making a videogame. Look at comics. A decade ago there were people saying they were going to make “conservative comics” and got a ton of money. Most of them never even had to even make the comics. You could do that with videogames.
>>750736102I’m speaking against the claim that Christian means Conservative.
>>750736074Yeah kind of like that.
>>750734673wtf is poke all toads, im talking about mina
>>750736003Actually there's a group pf christians in my town who actually don't practice usury, are very pacifistic, go on mission to help others and spread jesus's teachings and all that shit. Kind of annoying tbqh. They keep their money in the bank for various conveniences (I guess, you'd have to ask them) but refuse getting interest. I found out they all bank at one specific bank because they have some kinda deal where the bank doesn't pay them interest on their savings ever, which I'm sure the bank was more than happy to do.>tl;dr some weird subsect of mennonites or something
>>750737109They're getting fucked
>>750732128Yeah this is too much gayness for me. Will not play.
>>750737195Yup, they're really not built for modern society. Or previous societies. But it blew my mind when I heard they were actually refusing interest from the bank, and supposedly if they can't money on the barrelhead something then they just don't do it.
>>750738237>if they can't money on the barrelhead something then they just don't do it.wat
>>750725723Don’t forget donating/bragging about giving 20,000 smackers to No Lives Matter
Just means they'll die eventually, they wont have another hit.I can wait.
>>750722467Read a book
>>750725882>muh gaben playercount!Retard.t. Bought it on GoG
>>750739557Wait what?
>>750725723>>750714062>the most important aspect of video game development is rent
>>750741216where's that? looks like golden gate but can't be it.
>>750741540san frandouble fine has an office in the san fran bay area because it helps them make quality games
>>750741897green ground put me off.
>>750736119Nothing is stopping the thought police watchdogs from ruining you for trying either. Even the really popular "right wing" (and I say that very loosely) games like KCD were astroturfed to hell and back just because the developer wanted historical accuracy. I still haven't forgiven Trannies for fucking with the Lisa dev's mind and gaslit him to troonout and ruin his life. And he didn't even commit and bad wrong think, he just lived a decent life and had a good relationship with his father.
>>750714840Note that if you actually didn't break the rules in a second run (harder then it sounds) then instead of being accused you get invited to join up in hunting down the rebels.
>>750744706I actually did this for my Below Zero run because as much as it sucks to avoid breaking rules the whole game, the idea of having to do Furgus, Lionel, and the FUCKING Greenhouse Roof at -4% made me feel ill
I really love at the start of the game where a guy defends Thorn burning down the fucking town because "he only targeted industry and left people's houses alone!" Or some shit, blatantly trying to run cover for IRL commie vandalism lmfao
>>750718272Domina was unironically kino
>>750745096That's not what he said. He said that Thorne only attacked properties directly connected to Lionel himself.You know, because that's the specific person who he has beef with, not random villagers.
>guys this woke game was totally not a failureveilguard shills said the same and look how they ended
>>750745518DAMN, Grinnsly gets to puppeteer THAT?
>>750713869Do they have too many games being worked on simultaneously or something?
>shot in the armVaxxed cucks lmao
>>750745784they were apparently working on a 3D Shovel Knight game and Mina at the same time, but then Mina ended up taking a lot longer to finish than they thought and they pretty much ran out of money so they had to shelve the SK sequel to finish Mina before they went bankrupt
Does anyone have that picture of the 3 mice girls who are saying something like "he looks like he fucks mice girls"
>>750745879just go to mars
>>750745879
>>750745950Thank you!
>>750713869The game didn't really wow me. Maybe its because I'm so old and I've played a 100 other games just like it over the decades and can't enjoy them like I once did.
