Why is the game at mixed reviews? What's so wrong with it compared to the first game?
steam says very positivemixed was from launch
Non-christian abrahamites saw the burning heart on the cover and thought it was christian.
>>750711562the burning heart is a christian symbol? first time i ever heard that
>>750711562>stereotypical jesus hair>crown of thorns as a late-game helmet>dlc boss>can throw hands like jesus did at the templeMight as well call it Christian.
>>750711787Really niggaYou never heard of the sacred heart?
>>750712102Nope
>>750712102no. what picture is this from
>>750712139>>750712154Try googling "Jesus".Most of the times he's depicted with the burning heart
>hired pawns whose levels are close to my own>super small pool>got dragon aids>whatever I'll get the achievment>hire new pawns after>got dragon aids againI'm actually glad the aids cure exists now.
>>750712262oh nevermind, it's catholic nonsense. no wonder i didn't know about it.
>>750712273i have the same problem at ~130. what level are you at?
>>750712273Anything higher than 80 is likely in Unmoored World, where dragonsplague is the norm. Or maybe that's changed since endgame Norgan makes level ranges completely off-kilter.
>>750712360Always get a laugh out of uppity protestants.
>>750712478Now 635, pawns were around 500 and the first infector was 300s I think. You level up quick in Norgan. Also playing on switch so it's an especially tiny pool.
i knocked him over with the magic archer snonball and he fell into the water. the fucking retard.>>750712776i mock what deserves to be mocked. this, too.
>>750712776lets not pretend the pope doesnt lick nigger feet as well. 99% of protestants have embraced jews instead of heeding martin luther's advice.
>>750710787Performance was god awful on launch and they only properly fixed it two years later for Dark Arisen 2. As for the game itself, it ended up being about as rushed and unfinished as 1 was, so instead of getting a sequel that was the realized vision of 1 we just kinda got... release DD1 again with some steps forwards, some backwards and a whole bunch sideways.
>>750712102Im also christian. Went to sunday school and mass and never heard of this.
>muh prots muh catholicsThis is like watching jeets and pakis argue while lacking the self awareness to understand that they're both the same and the entire world sees them that way.
>>750710787my only issue is no loli pawns other than that is better than the first game, I bought it both on PC and SW2
>>750712941It's just a 1000 years old symbol of God's love.
>>750712941>i knocked him over with the magic archer snonballhow do you do that? do you hit it on the eye?
>>750710787I made it mixed just so you can have another useful provocative statement for OP <3
This is it! Beat the last enemy remaining.Played this DLC much longer than expected, worth the money.See you in 15 years when DD3 comes out.
>>750713326it was on the second run in that dungeon. he didn't summon any eyes at first. only a couple of them mid fight. he opens the barrier to cast spells after you cut off the tentacles. (and sometimes with tentacles intact i think). he was over the pool and i shot him twice in the eye with glacial bolt and a level 2 spellbow.
>>750713089dd2's main story is nowhere near the level of completion dd1 got. dd2 has perhaps the worst of all time
they did some fuckery with how the arisen behaves at cliffs right? i don't remember it being that fucking annoying before.also, i got the paragon staff. what am i supposed to do with it?
>>750713493congrats, for me DD2 is something i'll be revisiting probably every two years or so.
>>750713753DD2’s story is fine it’s just conveyed confusingly
for some reason the non p2w micro transactions pissed off the trannies so they review bombed it
>>750710787incomplete storyruns like assmissing vocationsfewer skill slotsnonexistent enemy variety
>>750714071you do literally NOTHING in battahl the whole area is meaningless
>>750713493See ya, anon
I think most of the negative reviews were from when it came out and ran like asses taking a giant shit on your PC, but also the game is half baked in many aspects compared to the first besides graphics.
>>750710787>Armor that wasn't even in the game at launch>One NPC that you never talk to>Another NPC who shows up for thirty secondsWhat were they thinking with that cover art?
>>750714349>meaningless>oh, btw, here's gobdsbane, the elder scrolls of dragon's dogma, and medusa, and dragonsplague, and tricksterit did enough it's just not everyone's cup of tea
>>750714349>meet Rothais and learn the truth of the world>acquire Godsbane and repair it>fight the giant which is really just in the story to be cool but it did happenThe main story is just really short in general not much happens in Vermund either
>>750714443That they would have another 2 years to make the game instead of shoving 70% of it into monster hunter wilds, onimusha, and dark arisen 2.
Runs like ass. Top-of-the-line machines are barely running it with copeframes and copescaling (mandatory)
>>750713753Like a lot of shit regarding DD2, that's an over exagerration, but there are many aspects of the game that signaled it needed a year or two before being truly complete. I get the disappointment but the hate it gets is kinda insane really. I genuinely liked it despite its flaws, just like the first game.>>750714473Not to mention the shitton of caves and places to explore. I will say the story REALLY meanders in Batthal and just kind but otherwise there's plenty to do if you don't want to do story content.
>>750714609>Runs like ass. Top-of-the-line machines are barely running it with copeframes and copescaling (mandatory)Unless you are lying high-end PCs are getting 175+ frames on max settings
>>750710787dogma bros, did the dlc save the game?
>>750714615i can never tell wether a pic is dd1 or 2 unless it's really obvious
>>750714729It was already good...but yes.
>>750714783>played neither
>>750714959no, i'm serious. i love both games, it's like they're mixed up in my head. i have a hard time remembering which quest was in wich game and which region was in which. in my defence the base games are very similar
Think I need to cut back on some mods because I'm starting to get massive frame drops, especially in battle. Maybe the randomizer needs to go. I think this weather mod is a big culprit too, but I really like it.
>>750715124Just a jape, friend.
Only recently realized you can rotate the camera in photo mode to take portrait shots>>750714729Yes
>>750714071DD1's story is pretty simple until postgame and the Dragon appears suddenly, kinda barebones but you get the gimmick of "Classic fantasy with some crazy meta shit hiding in the background", which they'd repeat with the sequel.DD2's story feels like it was building up something big with its main story, but after you reach Battahl they ran out of time and had to fast track you to the Dragon. Nadinia's on the cover but barely has any screentime.>>750714615DD2 is flawed but it makes so many changes that benefit it compared to DD1 once you look at it with a clear head>Classes all diversified, everyone gets a unique weapon type to avoid moveset overlap, ie Thief and Archer being dedicated dagger and bow classes instead of Ranger being "Strider but with more arrows">Most skills are changed or touched up, some are consolidated, ie getting one really good shield bash instead of several>Warrior almost completely overhauled>Trickster as a dedicated "fuck around with the enemy AI and physics" classI do agree it needed more time in the oven and I'd kill for a martial artist Vocation, but I like all the changes it made. Mystic Spearhand's telekinesis throw is fun and I don't know why more games don't do it.
Just saw a wandering endgame pawn get brined by saurians lol
>>750715535>spearhands telekinesis throwYeah it's cool, unfortunately completely worthless against bosses because they don't always have stuff around them to throw. I did use warfarer with this and the mage spell that creates ice blocks. It's fun in early-mid game hard mode where knocking down bosses matters. Afterwards completely useless
>>750715968>i just walked that path between the border town and the second shpinx spot.>there's a bunch of the stone saurians fighting a wandering pawn>one after another does the rollie pollie move and rolls down the cliff>hire the wandering pawn on the spotthis is how you get a job, zoomies!
>>750710787It repeats the same flaws from DD1 and adds even more of them.
>>750712262Lookin ZESTY!
>>750710787It's too similar to the first.Turns out Itsuno didn't have a grand design after all.
>>750715535>DD2's story feels like it was building up something big with its main storyI always felt the dev intended you to do a lot more quests in Battahl involve Nadinia, with Rothias, Phraeus and Pathjanny's goals being doled out more slowly over the course of a much longer act.I assume the dev team had to hurriedly abridge the story just to finish the game before the quarterly earnings period.
Why does my GPU start sweating whenever I'm in Norgan?None of the base game areas cause this.
>>750717836it's too damn hot. undress the arisen and pawns
>>750712102Sacred Heart. Great Dio song.
>>750717973is holy diver also about jesus?
>>750717836gotta render all that snow tessellation
>>750717694The execs definitely rushed it out the door so they had something for that quarter, but also remember that it started development in 2019, right before Covid hit. I'm sure that impacted their ability to work for a year or two.
Is mixing with beastren is frowned upon?
>>750719082Only because they dont have tails.
>>750717485>>750717619DD2 is better in every single way though.
I just beat my first evil eye in one of the rites in the unmoored world. What's the deal with the special weapon you can power up by defeating them? The pop up tutorial didn't really explain much.
>>750719140Why does it matter?
>>750719416Equip the weapon and then interact with the Evil Eye body. It rerolls the weapon, kind of like how your relics get rolled. So stats are randomized, as are its skills. And since you can enhance and dragonforge it, it can get really juicy. It won't ever beat out a level 5 relic you get from Satanachia or roll an element, but it's a good alternative weapon if you choose to avoid relics for whatever reason.
>>750719082Vernworth is a bit racist, probably in part due to their relations with Battahl. You can see some anti-beastren stuff at the shitty hobo tavern.Given the DLC, I wonder if the likelihood for a non-beastren offspring is higher if the partner is an elf of dwarf.
granny - humangranpa - beastrenmom - ???dad - beastrenkids - beastren, human, beastrenwhere's the mom?
I don't understand how they had such a strong OST in DD1 and then for 2 they didnt even bother bringing back eternal return, which is like THE dragons dogma song
>>750710787It got review bombed for bad performance and "microtransactions" at launch.
>>750710787base game is unfinished dogshit.dlc is good;still minuscule enemy/vocation variety.
>>750710787Where is the>it's the 'cooooordSchizo? He thinks DD2 was perfect and that there were only discord users reviewbombing it
>>750720490most discordfags have been banned i thought.
>>750720715they're using the 'eckers thing to ban evade.imagine that. they showed their 'icks to the 'ecker to spam in these threads. absolutely deranged retards
>>750710787The base game is still kinda trash, and rather than fixing it the devs just gave up and made the DLC self contained. In some ways the DLC actively makes the base game worse thanks to the power creep and forced inclusion of the eternal ferrystone.
>>750720490The sheer chasm of difference in quality between the DLC and the base game has forced some schizos to consider the idea that maybe base DD2 was bad after all
>>750719570Because without them they are just weird looking humans.
>archer has unironic auto aimSecondaries actually defend this gachaslop/vampire survivors gameplay of DD2 archer lmoa.>y-you will never reach the true damage potential with auto aimIt literally can't miss lmaoooooo, even if it doesn't hit every headshot the fact that it's an aimbot probably means the auto aim will always outdamage the manual aim, ESPECIALLY if you're aiming with a controller (aka 90% of the playerbase)
>>750721429melee attacks also have auto aim
>>750710787Funny thing is, this game seems to be getting absolutely slaughtered in Asia. Most of the Korean, Chinese, and Japanese comments I've seen are overwhelmingly negative, while Western players seem way more receptive to it.
>>750720490I think its very suspicious when people spend large portions of their lives going into threads for games they don't like and trying their best to make the game sound like it raped their parents and killed their dog.
>>750719591yay more rng grind
>>750721492Absolutely not to the same extent as the ranged hitscan pinpoint accurate auto aim of archer, you can easily just miss your warrior overhead move if you move slightly too much to the right, it also requires timing and placement, archer only requires you to turn on your aim bot
>>750712262Jesus was the first Arisen
>>750721554asian ‘gamers’ dont like real video games.they like no effort gambling machines
>>750721568Base DD2 literally scarred my soul for how dissapointing it was, i did shitpost about it for 2 years.After dark arisen 2 i'm shilling it any chance i get because i want a kinoshita DD3
>>750720021I guess I'm a massive fag because I didn't care for that song at all.
>>750719945She's dead. And also human.
Anyone know what the actual endgame progression is for mystic spearhand?Is fully upgraded Oscine BiS, or do the random Satan drops eventually beat it?And what's the deal with armor? Are the Lost Rite pieces the endgame set that must be upgraded? or am I supposed to be farming Satan drops for that too?
>>750722506 >human Dwarf. Or half-dwarf, at the very least.
>>750722548Satan doesn’t drop armor. Lost Rites armor has high raw defenses but is inferior to optimized armor drops. Battle frenzy IV^ weapons from Satan are the best for every class except mage.
Post thicc beastrens
>>750722548Im always partial to stamina regen shit with the spearhand because its fun to zip zoom around.
>played Spearhand with some Magick Archer mixed in on my first playthrough of vanilla years ago>make a lion lady since I didn't play as a Beastman first time through, thinking I'll play Sorc>on the other hand a lion lady seems more suited for Fighter, which is kino and the most MC codedOn the other hand I'm a fag and like playing mages so I can wear sick Odin style hats.Meh. Maybe I'll just transmog my gear. How far into the DLC do you unlock it?
>>750723898Relatively late, when you've got the whole map unlocked and get lvl 4 relics. You'll see most of the DLC gear before you get transmog.
>>750723898Fighter feels amazing in DD2, especially with the DLC skills. Transmog isn't unlocked until very late into the DLC, so I'd just use the mod Transmogify if I were you.
If your female pawn has a calm inclination, please use an aphonite's tome on her.
>>750724126>>750724160Thanks Anons. I'll probably just use the Transmog mod until then.
Is it just me or is the Pawn AI completely retarded when you make them play as Warrior and actually good when playing as Fighters?Like for a sturdy frontline that actually is able to deal fucktons of damage I'd rather hire a Fighter pawn every single day of the week. Warrior pawns spend a lot of time whiffing and just gassing themselves out.
>>750724787Nah it’s well known that Warrior pawns are kinda whatever. Warrior, mage, and Sorc pawns are dumb as hell. Fighter, thief, and archer are competent although thief will annoy you sometimes refusing to use feint for literally no reason
>>750723898>How far into the DLC do you unlock it?About 70% in for the main quest. It's retarded and should have been unlocked very early in the base game.
>Spend 110h replaying the base game on hard + relic rites>By the time I get to Norgan my pawn is way overleveled with mediocre gear compared to normal mode players that just rushed to the DLC content>No hiresSuch is the cross of the hardmode chad. I'll just cap myself & pawn to 200 so that I'll eventually catch up.
>>750724787Warrior Pawns can definitely be retarded if you give them a bunch of skills that require charging, but no Pawn has ever made me grind my teeth as hard as a Mage Pawn who just stands around clicking their basic attack when they could be doing literally anything else.
>>750725909>Fighting slimes>Mage/Sorc pawns using basic attacks instead of casting simple spells that would insta kill themCAST YOU FUCKING MONGOLOIDS, I CAN'T DO SHIT TO THEM AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>750726084You don’t truly appreciate how terrible mage pawns are until you equip a mage staff on Warfarer and discover you’re more effective even with no skills
>>750726084Warriors and Sorcerers at least have the benefit of looking really cool when they get certain skills off, but the best a Mage can manage is when they cast the right buff or get a slick heal off. That's the main reason why I never make my main Pawn a Mage. I always grow to hate the designated healslut.
These mods look sick>https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/817>https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1196Anything else as cool as these two?
>>750726574Oh, and this thing too>https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/2357
>>750711562DD3 needs to go full gnostic and reveal that the Greater Will is a Demiurge and have us fight it, mow that we've killed Satan
>>750726962Hell yeah.
>>750710787base DD2 was rushed out before RE Engine development figured out how to do open world effectivelythis was eventually fixed, but the launch was a bit roughthere was also a MTX controversy, western players were convinced the game was made more inconvenient to convince players to buy MTX, eventually they completely got rid of those MTX and added a lot of optional free convenience features to the game, like the eternal ferrystoneother complaints were just not enough monster variety and difficulty, which got addressed in the DLCsome players dislike having to pay additional money for content they felt should have been in the base version, but this was just not going to happen with the original director of DD2, who had a specific vision for the game, who then left Capcom after the base game release was mixed, and his replacement who worked on the DLC for the original DD1 came in to replace him for the DLC for DD2there's a couple other complains, but generally speaking, DD2:DA is in a great spot right now, it has a very specific audience for this type of game and they will enjoy it
>>750726574https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1479co-op mod for DD2, it's still in early testing, but before the DLC it was stable
>>750727415Holy fuck!That's genuinely sick.
>>750726574Lindwurm is a really cool rain mod, I haven't tested it out myself yet tho
So I beat the last boss of the DLC and the sky cleared, should I just immediately go back and make those portals appear again? Or can I get level 5 loot from the normal mobs now?
>>750726574Lindwurm Weather adds storms and severe winds to the vanilla maps. Obviously mainly visual, but it does a lot to add variety to your travels.Hydra adds, well, the Hydra to DD2. Prone to memory leaks at the moment since it's still super early in development, but it's something to keep an eye on.Take Notice adds radiant quests.CarryMeSenpai is a must-have, and you are not a true Arisen if you do not have it installed.And I haven't tried it yet, but StartCore has some interesting stuff going for it. If you've played Skyrim, it's basically Alternate Start. You've got a few options right now, such as you just being a regular traveler and not an Arisen, therefore never being able to have pawns. You can start as an elf, which comes with the twist that you can understand elvish, but can't understand humanspeak.
>>750727312The really stupid part about the MTX discussion was that DD2 was less bad about it than DD1. DD1 locked away a bunch of unique gear, while in DD2 it was just more consumables. Clearly something just slapped on because the business people demanded it.Launch was wild with everyone bitching about those MTX and the stupid class chart of all things. Performance was bad on some machines, but people barely talked about the actual issue of the game.
>>750727540>>750727669Yeah, okay.Alright.There are some substantial mods for this thing.Awesome.Thank you anons.
>>750727640Eternal darkness for Norgan if you want loot
holy BASED
>>750727792Thanks, does it effect those new quests in any way?
>>750727823UK in a nutshell
I kind of wish heat stones didn't exist and they used a different system for the cold mechanic It's just too easy to hoard them and never have to think about it
>Hire Archer Pawns>They're all dying in one hit from anything stronger than a slap>Most of them are using Lv5+ Relics, usually a Battle Frenzy in there>Main Archer Pawn is somehow tanking dragon nukes to the face>Still on Lv4 Relics with nothing in particular about the gearI don't get it. I've gone through a half dozen archer pawns and all of them are dead weight.
>>750728427Blizzards themselves are underused and you can still see wherever you are by going to your world map
fuck this guy
>>750728749Battle Frenzy by itself is a death sentence. You also need shit that increases health to offset the severe penalty. So if those hired pawns don't have the ring that doubles health or anything else to mitigate damage, they're just gonna fucking die whenever a ghoul as much as breathes in their general direction.
>>750728749I'm leveling vocations in Norgan at level 130 at item level 3, and hired my friends 250 something level fighter pawn and its dying fucking constantly. My warrior pawn survives just fine.When he's on his deathbed I'll ask him why he built his fighter pawn to be a fucking glasscannon.
Think I inadvertently took the most roundabout route to the checkpoint town.
wtf
>gave eternal bond to ulrika>did escort missions for her>gave gifts>somehow that faggot elf archer became the belovedhow the fuck is this possible
>>750729758uninstalled
>>750730531I did the exact same thing. I gave her so much and I got the ex-Arisen nignog
>>750730531same, dragon kidnapped her even, but somehow by the end of unmoored world in the end-end cutscene it was Sven for me
>>750712102That's the hospital in Scrubs you silly willy
>>750720490Discord assassin killed him.
Started playing yesterday, in Battahl today, this game is weird/autistic as fuck and not in a good way. It's like Elex + Shenmue. Leveling up vocations is the only thing keeping me interested.
>>750730531>>750730817>>750730949fuck capcom
>>750730531itsuno's vision
>>750710787We expected Dragon's Dogma 1 but with more content and possibly co-op, not Dragon's Dogma 1 but with better graphics
>>750732169>We
>>750720082Why did you put microtransactions in quotes.
>>750710787review bombed by retards thinking this is the only capcom game with micro-transactions and by poorfags with shit PCs
>>750732364pretty much
Is there no way to remove pawn scars during Unmoored? Not even mods?
>>750732364Nice to see that the repetitive schizo finally woke up. Now all you need to do is mention discord and "browns".
>>750732539?
>>750732598ignore the retard
>>750710787Performance was roughy on release. The DLC an preDLC patches fixed most of the issues, which is why its been Very Positive reviews for a while. You still have butthurt people that make hating videogames their entire personality but their opinions dont matter.
>>750732615done
>>750710787>Why is the game at mixed reviews?DLC didn't fix the base game.
>>750732529Nigga what unless ur volcano island got nuked just go to the hot springs
>>750732336because they're not part of the actual game and the shit sold is in the game anywaysame shit with dmc and the first dd
>>750732825and monhundunno why this game got so much shit for it
>>750732878deserved for putting e-celeb pawns in it
>>750732878Having it in multiple games isn't a good thing. Micro transaction is a cancer and capcom are fags for doing it in any of their games. >pay to change your characters looksThank fuck for PC modding. Sucks to be console fags
>>750732817Already evacuated the camp so there is no one there. You can walk in there but your pawns won't follow you into the hotspring
>>750710787>What's so wrong with it compared to the first game?Worse story and characters. Really bad quests for the most part. Worse class distribution/specialization. No real setpiece dungeons. Horrible corridor overworld design. "Weighty" movement leads to annoying shit like this. DLC fixed a lot, but wasn't perfect and doesn't change the base game.
>>750727736DD1 straight up locked actual QUESTS behind MTX. The DD2 DLC was retarded, but it was just shit you could get by playing the game normally and that soundtrack DLC.>>750730531>>750730817>>750730949I use these mods to make sure I always get Ulrika:https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1657https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/349https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1739Once you've gone down the rabbit hole of making your pawn look exactly like Ulrika, having anyone else as the beloved is just awkward. t helps me set my affinity with characters to what I want it to (although for Ulrika, I literally just visit Harve Village and give her a ton of gifts and do the escort quests too). If it gets too close or past the Beloved status threshold, I just set it too 100-120 so that they're friendly but not attracted to me. Except my pawn and Ulrika. I just romance them naturally.
>>750729758They aren't missing; I Pilfered them.
>>750733035i just don't understand why DD2 got so much shit for it when it's in every crapcom game
>>750733885see>>750732890e-celeb attentionso people focused on it more not realizing it's common for capcom
>>750733941true
>>750721720Pretty based take
>>750733885It was weird to me since it literally was the exact stuff in DD1 and DMC5 that doesn't even impact your gameplay really.
>>750734160it was really forced and only because of the e-celeb attention so retarded parrots dogpiled it
>>750711562Reminder to always take your meds before posting
Ahem, Big dick satanachia horse cock brat breaking shota arisen and pawns
>>750733885Pic related. It is quite tone deaf to say this and then sell port crystals as a paid DLC, it made it seem like Itsuno purposefully gimped fast travel to sell it as DLC (which isn't true but can be misconstrued as such).
The final boss of DA2 feels like it was designed specifically so you would play an archer, the teleport spam is ridiculous.
>>750734778his idea of interesting travel was to fight the same saurians and goblins every 2 days
>>750735460It's always worst the first time but he telegraphs his teleports on certain attack patterns like the finger sway one, you can actually charge and hit him anticipating where he'll be or when he'll reapear.But yeah, easier on ranged for sure either way.
>>750712273Isn't there a mod to just make your own party of pawns now?
>>750712360i'm lutheran and have known about this forever. guessing you're not actually christian
>>750732336There was a general uproar about the vanity items you can buy. Which was all fluff because there are no gacha loot boxes being sold, and the things they do sell for extra have no impact on the gamd (you get enough portcrystals and ferry stones in game you run out of use for them). Yet somehow people were accusing them of being microtransactions
>>750735701His idea of interesting travel were walking ferrystones that only go to a single location and only spawn once every day
Can I ever raise my pawn affinity so I can princess carry them? For some reason I can donit with some NPCs who I dont give a fuck but can't do that to my pawn no matter what I do
>>750732878because people like the other games better. that's the whole reason, while DD2 has much more mixed reception. performance sucked for most people, the story was meh, and long time fans were disappointed by the class selection, etc. So they made a mountain out of a molehill.if DD2 was as well received out of the gate as RE2/4, or World, nobody would give a flying fuck about microtransactions, in the same way if a person is a giga chad or giga stacy, nobody would care they have 'boring personality' or whatever the fuck flaws people want to assign.
I felt conflicted about the response to DD2's microtransactions because on one hand in an ideal world everyone would react to all microtransactions with such ire and they wouldn't be in games at at all. But on the other hand, DD2 had such insignificant items you could buy, there was truly no reason to get them.
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>>750710787>Dragon's Dogma shits out yet another 7/10>defense force emerges, every single time:Dragon's Dogma a good game, it dindu nuffin. These review scores is bigoted against a non-souls action game, ya'll. Itsuno was tryna get his franchise back on track. His team just need mo money from Capcom budget.
>>750710787>worse story>worse characters>vocations missing from 1st game and the new ones are largely mediocre>enemy variety is bad (pre DA DD1 didn't have good variety)Overall, it was just an alright alternative to DD:DA rather than a worthy sequelPersonally I did enjoy it a lot.
>>750737939DD had a story?Characters are just as forgettable in both games, except for my wife here.
Even as dissapointed most people were (and now they're coming back in droves for the DLC) it's interesting how alive the game is in /vg/.The whole pawn system, proud parenting and hotwife weird parasocial mix, attracts a certain sort. As if people were enjoying wife swapping their sims and modded skyrim OCs and having adventures and sharing screenshots.
>Did near everything in the base game on release pre unmoored>made sure to ride the Sphinx to her second location, get the best painting of the Griffon, and a bunch of other shit I'm probably forgetting>been too long since release to comfortably resume that playthrough>starting from scratch and redoing that also seems dauntingthe age-old autism
>>750738037She goat has at least some story relevance, this bitch is irrelevant
>>750738037>except for my wife hereThats just temu Quina
>>750738037I'm not saying the story or character of DD1 were particularly good, but they are still miles ahead of DD2. I liked Julien, Mercedes, Edmun, Festus, jewtits, and Selena even if their roles in the story was largely minimal.
>>750738180>She goat has at least some story relevanceHAHAHAHAHA
>>750738213sexism isn't cool
>>750738063The whole idea of pawns is pure gold, more games should copy it.
>>750738219She appears in 3 story missions and even is there when you escort the hydra head?Where the fuck is ulrika in any of the game except for the intro
>>750738213>I liked Julien, Mercedes, Edmun, Festus, jewtits, and SelenaHow can you leave Fournival out of that list?
I love the weight of a well placed hit with the warrior and you send them flying
Trying to beat the Fallen Dragon as Warrior is so awful. I keep getting ragdolled no matter what I do
>>750738294in my heart
DD2's story is even shorter than fucking Skyrim, what the fuck were they thinking?
>>750738360he stole my heart on my first playthrough and I haven't forgiven himI really should have looked into beloved mechanics better. Even just doing the Julien/Mercedes quest properly tripped me up the first time
the new maister skills and transmog should both have unlocked earlier in the dlc
>>750738456just feed him to grigori and become duke
>meet the cat bitch on the cover of the game>she gets backstabbed before she even exchanges a single word with your character
>>750738417They were thinking that the game needed another year or two of development and then Capcom said it's time to ship.
what's the best way to grind greatswords endgame in the DLC?
>>750738470No to the transmog, i don't want to see fighters wearing mage bikinis at lvl 10
>>750738248Yet women love it.
>>750738536but, would you say you had your expectation sufficiently subverted?
>>750738619get the buff from the warrior obelisk
>>750710787>What's so wrong with it compared to the first game?It just sucks overall, doesn't really do anything well. The only good things are some of the mods imo, and I guess the chargen is okay.Bad music, bad gameplay, virtually no balance or enemy AI, shit story, muddy graphics. All in all inferior to the beloved original but even on its own its just mediocre.
>>750726574Dullahan is pretty good but I prefer gameplay uwu and heavily nerfing it so that I only get block cancels on fighter because it's fun
>>750726670Oh shit that's out, I've been waiting like 2 months for this mod.
>you can't throw and hold your pawn down underwater in the unmoored world hot spring to remove their scarsA shame.
>>750726574they seem good but they barely change the game, it still sucks
>>750738248yes it is>>750738213>I'm not saying the story or character of DD1 were particularly good,they were pretty good though. the presentation sucked and it didn't have much story but DD1 is a very memorable game in terms of story stuff
>>750732336Because people acted like they were infinite buy items, and that you needed to buy them to fast travel, which was completely false.
Tummy
>>750726574>>750738805I like Dullahan for the most part, but it's incompatible with True Warfarer so I don't use it. It also kind of makes the warrior too easy, but I guess that's part of the fun.
>>750738627Transmog fixes when you have cool low level starting armor but the stats suck but then you start getting mid game armor that doesn't have good aesthetic but you have to switch off anyways because this is an RPG where equipment is king.
Are Mages basically too useful to pass up or am I just retarded? I felt like I could go without them in BBI but in Norgan they are super useful.
>>750710787because it suuuuuucks
>>750710787it's woke with how uglified the female characters are and the out of place niggersespecially compared to the 1st game
Hopefully DD2 puts this franchise in the grave for good.
>>750738037BASED ULRIKA ENJOYER
>>750710787best game ever made
>>750710787because it's a garbage downgrade sequel, fuck shitsuno>randomly removed beloved classes from 1 (assassin and mystic knight)>lowered the amount of weapons for each vocation>lowered the amount of armor slots>armor restrictions that make no fucking sense instead of splitting armors 3 ways between (fighter/warrior/spearhand, mage/sorcerer/trickster, and thief/archer/ma)>fewer weapons and armors than 1 (like few elemental weapons in base game, missing debilitation weapons)>plenty of missing monsters from dd1, especially bbi reskin monsters that were cool i don't care what the fuck you say i liked the giant fat guys and giant skeletons>base game post game is literally them just putting on a red filter and shrinking the map>no ur dragon EVEN AFTER THE DLC>story is way worse (to be expected) but the npcs are also way worse too, there's so few pretty and memorable npcs, dd1 npcs had unique dialogue that changed throughout the game for random town npcs, dd2 has generic lines and ugly as fuck seemingly random generated npcs, the absolute garbage written "rival" negro with broccoli hair, etcetc etc etc
>>750738037>Characters are just as forgettable in both games,shut up you nigger tourist retardpeople still post today about characters like mason, fournival, symone, especially mercedes, etc
>>750712102catholic whore
>>750740956based
>>750740956I love my wives
>>750741512no they don't
>>750741670kill yourself troon niggerset yourself on fire
it's wild how quickly people turned on Itsuno
>>750722548Pretty much the same as any other vocation. You farm a Battle Frenzy 4^ weapon and then use armor skills like Gigantus Vim^/Wicked Knight/Frozen Soul/Spectral Feint with a Ring of Inversion or Ring of Reversal setup to offset the massive damage increase penalty from Battle Frenzy. Gigantus Vim has a magic attack/defense penalty so it should be bad for Spearhand but the damage increase from Battle Frenzy is so powerful and Gigantus Vim is a key part of offsetting the penalties that its still worth it.But as far as actual Spearhand gameplay in endgame goes, it honestly feels like its a support vocation disguised as a red vocation. I've had the best luck with just getting some powerful pawns and spending my time using the new gravity well skill to trap enemies in so my pawns can go to town. Throw out our shadow clone to attack in the background while enemies are trapped and use your other skills to zip around.
>>750741798proof most are cattle that repeat anything in front of them for long enough.
>>750741798yeah i also hate the guy responsible for the garbage sequel lost planet 3 too (which was also capcom funny enough)
The cat people don't even have tails it's a rushed shit fucking game that I bought for full price.
>>750741798Twice he turned out to be the ideas guy that made decisions that were more for feeling in the moment than for the overall game package, it needed proof to be confirmed that he was the one calling the shots that actually made the game less than it could be.Im actually happy that its in Kinoshitas hands now but I will never lament Itsunos pitch of a taking a 2d classic RPG and just making it a 3rd person action game, and his idea with pawns feels like it was made for me, I just wish it was improved on. Maybe it will be moving forward. Its funny to think that his ideas spawned Monster Hunter AND DD, so wherever hes at now I would hope he makes that game he always envisioned, but truth be told, its probably not going to be very good, because he doesnt strike me as a "gameplay" guy more of "how does the player feel first time doing this" guy.
>>750741713nice argument
>>750742216your argument was literally>nodumb nigger
jesus christ how terrifying
>>750741713>>750742241>look mom I said the N word to fit in
>>750742241and yours was made-up bullshit
>>750742325you're not welcome here you stupid troon nigger fucking die
>>750710787It's just flat out boring
>>750742308THE WIND IS PUSHING ME XD
>>750742345trying way too hard kid
>>750742336nice argument nigger
>>750742292WOULD
>>750742383>make a retarded claim>get called out on it>start sperging out
>>750742428nu-/v/ in a nutshell
>>750738536they literally did not even have the cover art armor in game at launch
>>750742428>be a tourist nigger>make no argument>seethe when you don't get a full argument back for your non argumentkill yourself tourist nigger
>>750742489>look mommy I'm still saying it>am I cool yet haha
>>750742489you're trying so hard lmao
Because people are addicted to BBI LOOT LOOT LOOT LOOT and nothing else
>dd2 is amazing guys!! btw just download the mod that locks your level because there's no good level cap>also btw download the expanded bestiary mod>also btw download the-
>>750742545i love base game dd1 more than bbi and i hate dd2 so shut the fuck up
I didn't really care about the future of DD after 2, but now that DA was good I genuinely can't wait to see what a 3 is like directed by Kinoshita from the start, reusing as much from 2 as possible
>find a decent pawn>about to hire>Logistician
These lesser demons don't mess around.
>>750742658i hope you're right, i'm worried that if they make a sequel now a lot of the bad changes in 2 are just going to be locked in like the armor slots and capes that don't fucking fit
>>750710787because it's shit. a sequel that is a downgrade from the first.
>>750742770I think the DLC is the best DD has been, and the base game is the worst. The DLC could be its own game, if it was the scale of the base game it couldve been something special.
i will now give my one compliment for dd2i really love this armor, it looks really nice
>leveling Mage
>>750742940>>750742732DD2 might have removed the armor layering, but all the new armor does look amazing
>>750742551Don't use my NEET wife for your shitposts you ugly faggot.
>>750742987I dont mind the layering being removed because it means everything looks great, they definately need to add more customisation to compensate though. Let people change the color of stuff or choose which parts to remove, all the armours actually add and remove bits depending on what cloak you wear, just let people pick without the capes forcing them to, and I would love some of these armours in different colors.
>>750742732We need to all send as much feedback as possible in the survey as futile as it may seem.
>>750710787Release DD2 had problems and frankly it still does now. It is however much improved with eternal ferrystone, denuvo removal performance increases, Hard Mode, and the Lost Rites along with the DLC proper.Does that change how the actual quests for the MSQ are buns most of the time, how you can absolutely fuck proper progression by buying gear early, lot of quests just being wikipedia bait, and other shenanigans? Not really.It's a wanderlust game, a propah' adventure, if you roam the land exploran' and foightin' it's great. About the only modding it "needs" is ShadowFilter, unlocking the Dragon Forge before NG+, and maybe an XP thing so you can slow your levels down a bit because Hard Mode will get you crankin' pretty fast, not that it matters since the DA portion is still going to fuck you.
>>750742987some of them are really nice but don't mix and match as well because of the slots thing, like my favorite after the toga is probably that yellow scale set that returned from dd1 but i don't think i ever looked to see which pants were matching
>>750743071i already sent them a big message in the survey thing, i forget there was one thing i forgot to mention though, quality of the npcs i think (but i did explicitly complain about the dei shit, just make a cool black dude mason is right there)
>>750743001but it's still true
>>750742940the purple one looks nice too
>>750743153I kinda like Captain Brant and the new merchant guy. Like they are actual characters beyond "I'm black"
Why yes, my Arisen will always just be Savan with a beard and eyepatch
>>750743206i guess the purple one does match a more witchy look more, needs an oversized hat, but i just really love how the white one looks with a sword and shield, feels like idk a greek epic style outfit, too bad i can't do that with my prawn because those sets are for like mages and prawns can't go warfarer
>>750743105What'd wild is that some capes will directly modify far left, and if I were a gambling man the others too, so that it looks quite different. You get more of that underlying element and it removed the metal potion on the chest.Or the fact that beastren will have the visor up on the far right helm while humans have it down. Full of weird shenanigans like that.
>>750743206holy sexo
>constant ctd on latest autosave>last save was an hour ago before relic farmingFuck.
>>750743309Anon...You can raise and lower the visors in the equipment menu, theres a few helmets that do it.Different capes will remove different parts, some dont remove anything. They shouldve just let players choose what parts to show, but I suppose its to get rid of clipping.
>>750743309>What'd wild is that some capes will directly modify far left, and if I were a gambling man the others too, so that it looks quite different.i wouldn't know because they fit so horribly on my characters i just decided to ignore them completely early on
Bro FUCK these camo ice breathing lizards.
SILENT HEARTED ONE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>750743718THE CHAD STRIDE
>>750743081>It's a wanderlust game, a propah' adventure, if you roam the land exploran' and foightin' it's great.It's fuckin nuts how people just refuse to see this
What is Dogma?
/v/ makes a pawn
>>750741713>set yourself on fireThey're dogshitter 2 fag, they can't.
>>750744398>they
>>750744398apparently spearhand still can but idk i didn't touch that vocation really, i don't like twinblades
>>750744909Thief can. Blades of the pyre. It works how it did in DD1.
>>750744942oh my bad, you right
woke slop
>>750745143kek
>>750744141The meaning of the dragon's sugma.
>dd2 didn't have a sexy kinda fatter female dragon this timei have a NEED to hear a good female voice actor tell me to CUM ARISEN through a big sexy female dragon
In a hypothetic DD3 I wish the devs would add way WAY more variety to pawn dialogue. Fuck it is so irritating to hear the exact same lines repeated fucking endlessly.
>>750738248Shut up, whore
If you didn't deleted your save file after the true ending then you didn't beat the game
https://youtu.be/yMRzNvJ1UP4?t=350So this is confirmation to me that Kinoshita is the guy that "gets it" when it comes to DDGive him DD3
>>750745581An actual good use of Ai would be to get VA to do their job, then have Ai effectively triple the variation and responses to everything on top of that. There is a surprising amount of lines in the game for each voice pack, like pawns having quotes for literally every quest and area of the game, even in the DLC, but when theyve run them out and you start to hear the generic filler dialogue it feels less organic for sure. Just have way more chatter dialogueDo something like they did in DD1 aswell where you can personally pick how pawns respond and behave towards shit to make a personality>when I give the "go" command how do they respond. flippant, aggressive, meek, excited>record lines for each and apply this to all commands and interactionsShit like that could go a long way to making pawns feel more personal. At least the prospect of DD3 is on the table and has areas for which to improve without changing the game.
https://youtu.be/3_IimJeHkOwDD2's music is so lame compared to the original, please get back the original crew for 3
>>750745561dayum
>>750745626absolute fucking gigachad goat-killer
>>750745768>then have Ai effectively triple the variation If you already have the VA's booked you could just write more dialogue for them to say.
My DD3 plot, my ideas mashed with another anon's:>game takes place in a much more apocalyptic world than 2, the entire world is overrun with monsters and everyone is located in one giant city and you adventure out from it, with cool set pieces like Shadow Fort from 1 where you retake forward bases with a bunch of soldiers for use in adventuring out into the rest of the world>game reverses the Satan stuff in 2DA and reveals that the Greater Will is actually a demiurge situation where it traps us in the cycle for its amusement and we have to challenge it>world is overrun with more demons and angelic themed enemies as we fight both off, trying to break the cycle but not give in to the Rancor>game ends with you taking a giant tower dungeon up to the moon to fight the Greater WillThoughts?
>>750745884Its a general problem with a lot of music now, its been described as "overproduced" as in there is so many insturments and ups and downs in the music that you cant hear any single instrument on its own and it cant dwell on a moment in the track. That said, I actually really like some of the DLC tracks exactly because they have discernable motiffs, like you can actually hear single instruments the track is based around.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYoJ9I-TLAghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMRzNvJ1UP4
>>750745765No itsuno no dragon's dogma
Asking for dd3 is like asking for more Berserk after miura death
>>750746124Itsuno wanted to turn DD into GTAUnc was going senile and had to go
>>750746105I definitely think the 2DA music is a huge improvement over 2's music, but I miss the electric guitars from 1
>>750746124>>750746159>>750746172Kinoshita has now proven 3 times that he can do DD better than Itsuno. Let Itsuno go do his own thing somewhere besides Capcom now
>>750746205Kinoshita's dragon's dogma is just monster hunter with gacha progression
>>750746050Sure, baring in mind they have to hire VAs for each language an read those scripts is where the problem starts and why they dont do that. Not only because its expensive, but the scripts also need to be adjusted for each language in translation. With AI its just a matter of having a voice to put the lines to.Im not shilling AI Im more thinking of a practical application that could benefit the game without costing much of anything.
>>750746289and itsuno's is a barren tech demo with a schizo campaign
>>750710787Niggers niggers and more niggers. And no lolis.
>>750746289DD3 should have 3 kinds of progression:>relics that give decent gear, but they don't drop as often as 2DA, but more than 1DA. This would be done to reward basic exploration and combat>unique gear that is found in only specific spots in the world like at the end of dungeons>basic gear is sold at stores, this would be weaker gear but would be used for things like getting some gear with good ice resistance and thermal protection before heading off into the snow area for the first time
So how does hard mode feel on a fresh character?
>>750746589Oh shit, I'm sorry.
>>750746316Both vanilla dd were a masterpiece Dlc just added more side content while nerfing the base game adventure to appeal to subhuman like you
>>750746730>base dd2>masterpiecebegone retard
synth is really destroying his career because people didn’t want to watch another fucking video about this dogshit game
>>750746850Fuck off tourist
>>750746964you're a LARPer and a very bad one at that
>>750746289I think DD is better when it leans more into it's MH roots because while the combat is solid the other aspects of the premise are all severely undercooked. The exploration, the questing, the general "adventuring" don't work, for me at least, because the setting is drab and samey and filled with too many dull eyed nigger retards.
>>750746730>DD2fag trying to leech off DD1Chad
>>750745626based as fuck
