JRPGs are suddenly fun againStart doing this
Start doing speed?
>>750698658That too
>making the voices even more high pitchedyour funeral
>>750698764Lost odyssey recomp added normal audio
>>750698615Why not just play another game?
>>750698615rpgs are more satisfying at 1x speed when the pay offs come after hours instead of minutes.
>>750698764Speedhack is not like emulator turbo, it doesn't affect voices and sountrack
>>750699076Because I love JRPGs and want to play JRPGs?
>>750699193Apparently you don't if you have to speed them up
>>750699193Nobody likes jrpgs on /v/All the threads are shit and no "jrpg fan" posts in the ones that try to be earnestFuck off with your bullshit
After playing Dragon Quest XI for about 300 hours with the fastest battle speed setting, I tried the normal speed just to see what it was like, and it's a shock to see how slow the animations are.I definitely wouldn't have been able to play more than one time at normal speed...
>>750698615this but unironicallyI do it in H-games, walk&talk garbage and JRPGs>but le adhd-AAAACKKKYou don't play turn based games tranny, don't reply to me.
>>750699264A beginner skier goes slowly down the easy slopes and has a blast. As he improves, he goes faster and faster. Does he hate skiing now just because he can go faster? Of course not.
>>750699383Okay what does that have to do with you being too ADHD to properly enjoy them?
>>750699438I don't have ADHD. I'm a family man now.
>>750698615Fully support this in jrpgs where 70% of your gameplay is padded with gay animations and pointlessly long dialogues
>>750699438My analogy is perfect. I won't repeat myself.Copy and paste this thread in ChatpGPT and ask it to explain it to you.
>>750699547Okay anon I hope you get treated for your ADHD
>>750698615ok do that with unlimited saga
>>750698615>JRPGs are suddenly fun againyeah, expedition 33 was great
>>750699670I'm waiting for the decomp
>>750699438Kill yourselfplay enough advance wars and you'll turn off the animations, no matter if they're amazingsame for fire emblemsame for pokemonkysgenuinely end your fucking life casual, you don't play these games to begin with
>>750699721Not a jrpg
Why stop at 2.5x?
>>750698615>play jrpg>discover a new town>your party members suddenly start having some boring dialog about fucking food and shitty cutscenes start triggering for the next 45 minutes>all this could be done in a 3 minute timeframemaybe im too old for this shit? i simply value my time now more
>>750699950nah your attention span has been whittled down like everyone else's
>>750699889Any faster than that the game becomes too difficult to control
>>750699950What is "Tales of" series?
>>750699798>"genuinely end your fucking life casual">says the casual who has to use speedhacksLOL
FUUUUUUUUUUCK! CHARACTERS ARE TALKING AT A REGULAR PACE! OPTIMIZE OPTIMIZE OPTIMIZE
>>750699802it is thougheverbeit
>>750698658YES
>>750699950>play 1 jrpg at 1x speed>man what a waste of time>play 3 jrpgs at 3x speed each (spent same exact amount of hours playing jrpg)>so glad I didnt waste my time
>>750700157What do you think the j in "jrpg" means, retard?
just play the few greatest story jrpgs and then not play the rest that are all shit
>>750699950>>750700107Learn from your beloved SakuraiHe reads fast as fuck, see 00:26https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkXSIUX5l_s
>>750700246There's like 150 great JRPGsAll combined it would take non-stop 5 years of your life to finish them all
>>750700193Turn-based with great lore and story?
>>750700298>There's like 150 great JRPGs>150
>>750700392He's not wrong.
>>750700454>I'm right
>>750699950I always despised big cities in JRPGs. For me the genre is all about exploring dungeons and overworlds. There are only a few exceptions like FF9 where the cities are actually relatively small and tame despite the visuals.
>>750700527I'm not going to post a list of 150 JRPGs because you're just going to do this.
>>750698615thread of massive importance
>>750700570FUKKEN SAVED
>>750700624>>750700264Sakuraimind
>>750700624so he basically just skips 90% of the text and just looks for keywords? is he literally me? its a nice feel to know that even famous people do this
>>750700570i'll help you>Mother anythingit's shit>Chrono anythingit's shit>DQ anythingit's shit>FF anythingit's shit>Trails anythingit's shit>Tales anythingit's shit>Persona anythingit's shit>Xeno anything but Gearsit's shit>indie anythingit's shit>Pokemon anythingit's shit>FE anythingit's shit and you are gay
>>750700624He actually reads that fast in english or that video is subbed?
>>750698658Speed W
>>750700327That level of ragebait doesn't work on me
>>750700824
>>750700824Ys brothers we are so fucking back.
>>750700886Not even baiting. Nowadays the 'J' in JRPG is more of a seal of quality rather than the original meaning of 'Japan'
>>750700193jrpg is just a genre now, 4 niggas in a rowit has nothing to do with japan anymore, just like how souls games are mostly made in China now
>>750700824We fucking won Growlanserbros
>>750700864The video is subbed, which makes a little more sense given the nature of the japanese language. But his point still stands true no matter what region of the world you live in. One of the worst sins a videogame can do is take control away from the player going through information. The retards screaming "ADHD!!" because they read slower should be ignored There's a handful of games where dialogue pacing is actually used well to emphasize a scene, and most of the time you actually don't need voice acting
>>750700887Yep that's how I feel everytime I play a jrpg
>>750700193retard
>>750700952>just like how souls games are mostly made in China nowThere's AI limit and..... and..... and.....
>>750701040can someone translate this autism
>>750701040>durrr hurrrrthe latest and biggest 3 souls like games all came from China:WukongWuchangPhantom Blade
>>750700930>Nowadays the 'J' in JRPG is more of a seal of quality this is complete babble>>750700952it has nothing to do with japan anymore>the term japanese roleplaying game has nothing to do with japanI know brownoids are retarded but GOD you're fucking retarded
>>750701167you know JRPGs are just a ripoff of D&D right? dont be a smug faggot
>>750701017>The video is subbed, which makes a little more sense given the nature of the japanese language.Then that makes the video even more baffling.If he’s going through text at that speed, I find it hard to believe he’s absorbing everything rather than just glancing over the kanji.
the only 4 niggas in a row game im looking forward to playing is the romancing saga 3 remake in 2027
>>750701029You're cuteKonata is cute
Genuinely don't understand why retarded jap devs don't make an option to skip animations and dialogue for turn based games. They were fun for the first 3 hours, I don't want to see them played 1000 times by the second turn of the third dungeon in the starting zone.
>>750701119Wukong and Phantom Blade are not souls games.>HUH?I refuse to elaborate.>WuchangAdmittedly I forgot that one
>>750701347Shut the fuck up faggot
>>750701167Language evolves.
>>750701232What does that have to do with the meaning of the acronym JRPG?J stands for JAPANESE
>>750701167>i will call him brown so my retarded post seems more basedi hate nu /v/ so fucking much
it's a case by case basis for meI take my time to read lines in mystery VNs or otherwise puzzle games but I speedread in dating sims and H-games unless I really like the plotsame for JRPGs, there are games where I disable all animations after a while and others I leave them on.sometimes I just switch it on/off based on current moodgames without the option to do so do not respect your timeby the way if your game gets easier if you use speedhack it's unironically a poorly designed game that was never challenging but /v/ is not ready for this conversation
>>750701398If you aren't a girl why did you say you feel like KonataYou're weird bro
>>750701359SMT V did
>>750701438>if you rip off 95% of western game mechanic and put a J in front of it you invented a new genreok retard
>>750701232>you know JRPGs are just a ripoff of D&D right?All rpg games are, completely irrelavent point to bring up.The format jrpgs are well known for came from dragon quest a japanese game.>inb4 wizardrywizardry is a first person dungeon crawler and not the top down 4 niggas in a row we came to know them for.>>750701419>Language evolves.Please tell me how the J stands for anything other than japanese
>open up the average "great" JRPG>every cutscene has every ally NPC showing no emotion while evenly spaced and A-posing with the villain NPCs doing the same thing a small distance away in the same manner
>>750701167>>750701448JRPG isn’t really about where a game is made anymore. It’s more about what kind of game it is: the party of characters, the turn-based fights, the big story, that whole vibe. It’s like how you can make Mexican tortillas as an American living in America and they’re still Mexican tortillas. The name is about the food, not who’s cooking it. So when people call a game a JRPG, they’re talking about the style, not the country.
>>750701568>jrpg came from dragon questlol even Yuji Horii the creator openly admitted that he fully ripped off D&D
>>750701568the overworld traversal came from ultimaalso the perspective doesn't matter, wizardry is 4 niggas in a row
>>750701591>why aren't they ACTING like in my american TV shows?
>>750701591You're the reason AAA american games have latched to facial motion capture for every single in-game cutscene and I hate it
>>750701723>>750701761settle down, bad taste frens
>weeb finds out that JRPGs are basically western game ripoffs and his world is shatteredis he crying right now?
>>750701484I didn't say that faggot I'm just saying that jarpigs put me to sleep
>>750701831Protag looks like a total Chad
>>750701845Who are you talking to?
>>750701675Doesn't change the fact that every jrpg takes from dragon quest in some way shape or form
>>750701831Divine Force was such an amazing game, but i almost never see anyone on /v/ talk about it...Its literally Star Ocean's return to form
>>750701859So you see a cute sleepy gremlin and the first thing you think is "that's literally me"?Egg
I'd never play FFIX again without a speedup button for the battle transitions.
>>750701971Are you grooming me?
>>750698615If you have to modify a bad game to be good then it's still a bad game and I refuse to play it
>>750702020speeding up the game is not modifying it retardand most JRPGs are slow because of hardware limitation of their time
>>750702086>speeding up the game is not modifying it retardIt actually does lol
>>750702020>love Big Macs but hate lettuce>refuse to ask the chef to just remove the lettuce because that would be badBro
>>750702086JRPGs are slow for balancing reasons. they didn't want you to mindlessly grind at 3x speed like cheaters do with speedup
>>750701631>JRPG isn’t really about where a game is made anymoreIf I told you that a new game that came out is a japanese role playing game, you'd IMMEDIATELY expect it to be a game made in japan. If you ended up finding out it was made by americans you'd be completely confused. You're moving the goalposts>you can make Mexican tortillas as an American living in America and they’re still Mexican tortillas.>food analogyalso they're mexican-style tortillas not mexican tortillas
>>750701591lolmao
>>750702186>If I told you that a new game that came out is a japanese role playing game, you'd IMMEDIATELY expect it to be a game made in japanIf a game looks like a JRPG, plays like a JRPG, and has everything people expect from a JRPG, then it’s a JRPG. Where the studio happens to be doesn’t change any of that.
>>750702181JRPGs should limit how much you can grind and force players to actually use their brain for boss battles.
reminder they built speed options into every disgaea past the first.
>>750702181so why does every modern JRPG remaster have a 3x speed button build into the game by the devs?
>>750702186>also they're mexican-style tortillas not mexican tortillasYou're being pedantic.Nobody walks into a store and asks for “Mexican-style tortillas.” They just ask for Mexican tortillas, because everyone already knows the name is about the kind of tortilla, not where it was made. Same thing with JRPGs. Adding “style” to the end is just a technicality nobody uses in real life.
>>750702276JRPGs are made for children so they need to be easy and able to be brute forced by grinding >>750702330the same reason non-RPG rereleases have save states and rewind built into the games
>>750702152How can anyone hate lettuce it has almost no taste
>>750702421>the same reason non-RPG rereleases have save states and rewind built into the gameswhat?
>>750701970is it true? who dis bitch
if Japan made an fps game would you call it a JFPS?>>750702479this could be your daughterwife anon if you play the game
>>750702512>if you play the gamewtf
>>750701591>>750702232That's just how people behave in large groups when engaging in conversation. Is pic related suddenly a JRPG?
>>750702421majority of people that play JRPGs are in the 20-30s age group, kids don't give a shit about them.
>>750702558it on sale for 25$ every month and its on GOG so you can easily pirate it if you want
>>750702429I hate the texture
>>750699798Japanese developers intended these games to be played a specific way. By hacking and modifying them you are trampling over the developers intentions. You are not JRPG fans, you are gaijin pirates. You can get off your high horse and shut up.
>>750702579those npcs aren't A-posing with no emotion
>>750702461huge fan of [JRPG] excited to play it for the first time, and they can't enjoy it without cheats. doesn't mean the hardware limited the developer's intentions
>>750702512>if Japan made an fps game would you call it a JFPS?Anime shooter
>>750702670>posts emulator slop and not remakeyou are such a dishonest faggot
>>750702653You got me, I didn't notice the A posing and now that I do it's really egregious and really makes me wonder the reason why they don't just use different default poses for standing other than pure laziness
>>750702670How is speeding up the game cheating? If you're not using it to mindlessly grind the difficulty is the same
>>750702616Like you hate the texture of your boyfriend's penis when he fucks your ass?
>>750702020at that point everything is bad without extra screen to keep you entertained
>>750702260>If a game looks like a JRPG, plays like a JRPG, and has everything people expect from a JRPG, then it’s a JRPG.Then why aren't you calling dark souls a wrpg?
>>750702885Edgy 12 year old energy is emanating from your post
>>750702770>I didn't notice the A posingyou'll never stop noticing
>>750702969Because Dark Souls borrows Western fantasy aesthetics, but it skips most of what makes a WRPG.There's no dialogue trees, branching choices, quest logs, or stat-driven combat. Its cryptic environmental storytelling, skill-based combat, interconnected world, and punishing death loop don’t fit the JRPG mold either. That’s why it ended up as its own thing: an action RPG that spawned the “Soulslike” genre.
>>750698615While ideally you'd just have a design where skipping battles or speeding up the game isn't needed, I think that approach is the best second thing.Look at Digimon Time stranger. It has auto battle and you can change the speed of battles from the battle UI itself.I do think that they had the opportunity to do something more interesting with the auto-battles. Make it a proper secondary viable gameplay mode where the digimon have behaviors that change according to some parameters. Take a bit of how Digimon World works, a bit of how the PS2 Savers game works (with the digimon having moves they want to use) and change the battle behavior based on that.Basically, tie the fact that digimon are autonomous beings with personalities into the actual gameplay beyond which skill tree affects them by personality type.
>>750698615I usually crank it up to 5x, sometimes 10x if I have to grind. I find SMT3 hard mode unplyable without a speed up mod.
>>750698615Out of date shitpost. Every vidya is able to be instantly upgraded now. Shit balance is fixable and fully integrated in 30 minutes.
>>750703667Why don't you play on NORMAL?
i feel like i played every good JRPG and all thats left is some B tier games
>>750703814Because i'm not normal
>>750704045You clearly are since you need to cheat to get on the level of HARD Chads.
The trails series been doing turbo mode for the past 20 years
>>750703901Play Resonance of FateIt's B tier but it's GOOD
>>750704079I'm not cheating i'm just speeding up the process
>>750699889I used to play Final fantasy 4 5 and 6 on the gba emulator and pressing the space bar would jump it 800× speed, good times the music was sped up too
>>750702337>Adding “style” to the end is just a technicality nobody uses in real life.holy fuck you're a retard
>>750703427>There's no dialogue trees, branching choices, quest logs, or stat-driven combat. not every wrpg has that, just like not every jrpg has turn based combat
>>750698615>remake adds heaps of new battle animations>30 second battles now take 5 minutes .....thanks.....
>>750701167Blacks and Pajeets are wewuzzing Jap games and anime now. They want to think they can be their heroes.
>>750698615I have only ever done this with VNs because for some reason they're have2 extremely fucking slow transitions and scenario changes.
>>750698615I outright refuse to play a pokemon romhack that doesn't include these settings natively. This is from pokemon tourmaline, I know emerald rogue also allows you to change animation speed and other things as you see fit.
>>750701419Devolves* thanks to the scum like you.
>EXP 4x>Encounter rate halfed>Overworld speed 2xMost jrpgs improve drastically and are now closer to 25~30 hours over 50~60 hour slog
>>750699798I have played thousands of hours of JRPGs and have never used a speedhack or fast forward in any of themI've played my favorite Final Fantasy title probably like 15 times and have never used speedupYou are the casual you shitstain
>>750700624No way this night can read that fast
>>750705060>not every jrpg has turn based combatThose are rare exceptions, like Tales Of having all the trappings of a jrpg except being real time. The new Tales Of games don't have instanced combat or overworld though so it's arguably an action rpg instead. I view it as a spectrum where it is until it isn't.
>>750700624>>750701017I used to do that and speedread a lot when I played only in English, since most of the text was pretty shitty translations. But I started to slow down and appreciate reading more once I learned Japanese.
>>750701483>by the way if your game gets easier if you use speedhack it's unironically a poorly designed game that was never challenging but /v/ is not ready for this conversationTRVKE
>>750702828because it can alter the reward structures put in place. like paying for fast travel vs just putting 5x game speed on and walking A to B in a minute.
>>750698615>ADD General
>>750700298>>750700392>>750700527>>750700570JRPGs are one of the shittest genres in gaming and you only think so many are 'good' because you can stomach repetitive bullshit that offers no challenge enough to not mind.In general, the more JRPGs someone is capable of enjoying, the worse taste in the genre they will have, and it's very specific kinds of people who will willingly play through dozens of these games. The people who have the best advice about it to give will only like very few things in it and recognize how dismal most of it is.Only people who are fans of things that are actually mostly shit have to do the "look, there are all these good things, but I won't name them, you have to figure that out for yourself" routine to dupe idiots.
>>750700624The solution to this is to force people to type all the text to proceed to the next line. Make the adhd zoomer write down the whole story or they don't get to play.
>>750711860What's your favourite genre and games
>>750700624>doesn't allow the character's VA to finish saying their linesthis guy is a zoomer in a boomer's skin, absolutely brainrotted
>FFXII Zodiac Age has an in-game speed-up function>modern Atlus games let you skip through combat animationsNothing wrong with speeding up older games that are too slow.
>>750703427>There's no dialogue trees, branching choicesDark Souls handles choices more naturally than most WRPGs do, which rarely even let you have so much as an 'evil ending' if that's possible at all. The consequences to killing NPCs makes much more sense than the dodgy 'morality systems' WRPGs try to pull off.
>>750712147keep seething because he's rightI can name you a dozen of games that manage to be more emotionally impactful than your voice acted JRPG or cinematic slop
>>750712105Zelda, as it mogs most JRPGs at exactly the kind of things they try to do but rarely pull off that well.
>>750698615Adware engine Malware engine, Bronwn engine, Enable Poor hack? dogshit software.
>>750712289Zelda is a JRPG
>>750712289>Zelda You're in no place to lecture anyone.
>>750712317Someone translate this ESL schizo babble
>JRPG "fan" doing basically the watching anime at 2x speed meme with his gamesHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I can't even deny that OP is wrong because sometimes JRPGs are fucking too slow for their own good.
>>750698615literally the only way i could play stardew valley enjoyably, that game is made for actual mouth breathers otherwise
Just want to let you guys know that altering any game, ie using third party tools, and going against the dev's intended vision makes you a certified philistine.
>>750698615This is accurate. I've been doing that since ps1 emulators, a lot of rpgs just feel better with speedhack. Some of the games have in bealt speed increase mechanic but it's a rare case.
>>750713139I concur, nontheless the dev's intended vision might just be shit.
>>750712147He probably had less than 1 hour of freetime a day, can you really blame him?
>>750713139The devs aren't sacred gods to me. Some of the features might not work well enough so we can fix it with either speed or other means like mods. There are many examples when mods can transform the game into something much greater and speed increase is a trivial thing.You are free to play the intended way, watch every cut scene, read every meaningless dialogue and walk for hours in a turn based game but at the end of the day you've just wasted a lot of time and didn't get much fun out of it. The games are supposed to be fun and devs need to respect player's time.
>>750700542>I always despised big cities in JRPGsSame. I feel compelled to talk to every NPC so I don't miss any flag triggers or sidequests or whatever. Some games have just a few NPCs with quippy one liners, that's tolerable. But games like Xenoblade which have 50+ NPCs per town, each with 2+ paragraphs of dialogue giving their entire fucking life story make me want to kill myself.
>>750714440Trails is the worst offender when it comes to this. Give me 3000 slice-of-life scenes with the main characters, but please, don't change the dialogue of random NPCs I don't care about every time something happens.
>>750713273You fuck with the sound if you use turbo speed in emulators thoughUse cheat engine to keep the sound at normal speed
>>750699950It gets especially bad if they are doing those dumb one note characters who have to mention their gimmick at least once per scene. >I am the hungry character, I talk about being hungry>I am the sleepy character, I talk about wanting to take a nap>I am the gungho shounen character, I talk about wanting to fight
>>750700808Nah, he just reads slightly faster than me. I can almost keep up at that tempo.
>>750712147There was no VA when he was growing up, you "the groomers tell me I'm mature for my age"-fag.
>>750713139I'm smarter than the developers.
>>750698615every turn based game should have animation speed settings
>>750698615>Only 2.5xlol no.
>>750713139better a philistine than a cuck like you, kysI'm here for gameplay retard, not le artistic pacing. end your life
So is Cheat Engine safe to use now or does the creator still have ads on it? Or was it some group that was locking cheat tables behinds ads or something? been out of the loop for many years
>>750709273>Those are rare exceptionsNot reallyKingdom HeartsYsTalesValkyrie Profileetc.
