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>>750677487
Won.
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>>750677487
I KNEEL
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Evercuckold
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YoshiP crying on dev live stream Part 2 when ?
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Neverold
Tranny's Fantasy: 14 (years old)
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>>750677487
>2 wow expansions and a new version of WoW releasing before the next FF14 expansion
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>>750677487
holy shit that bear's ASS is finnnneeeee
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>>750677412
Fuck, taking time off in January is so much more comfy than February.
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>>750677487
fpbp
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>>750677487
this is gonna flop like a fish
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>Wowfags think this is a win
the absolute state of this playerbase
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Neversold has found its audience.
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>moved it closer to revelation

Nice
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>>750677412
A delayed game is a good game.
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"ZEPHYR" JOB REVEAL (ranged dps)

https://youtu.be/ztOKVRxg9GQ?is=gKWhZsDD6yhJjoyx
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FF7 raid gonna be KINO
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>>750686491
oh fuck I haven't watched this I might cum
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>>750677487
I literally don't have enough free space to play this game. Will probably be shit anyway.
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Holy fuck... I have to wait an extra month to not play this piece of shit scam infested with trannies? OH NO!
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>>750686491
Ysayle?
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>>750686491
pic for ants?
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>>750686749
People keep saying this but she SIGNIFICANTLY more like Myste from the DRK quests
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>>750686960
anon...
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>>750686491
Haven't played since endwalker, did they revived Ysayle? what about Zenos?
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>watch "4 hour" evolved live letter
>30 minutes reintroducing Mr. Prime
>2 hours of merch shilling
>1 hour restating what an evolved job and reborn job is twenty times
>30 minutes showing that every job is VPR/SMN or one-button andy and all jobs in a role have identical flavor buttons
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>>750687401
Its 4th shard Ysayle. Zenos is dead, but a new Ascian insulted him so now WoL is doing his best Zenos impression out of spite.
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>fierce mode a week AFTER savage

dead on arrival this shit. youd think it would be a week before so people have something fun to do. and all to appeal to world first raiders so as to not give hints on mechanics.
like bro your shit is always geting cleared week one by cheaters anyway. whats the point?
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I was holding my breath for complete crafter rape until the very end of their retarded long-winded explanation where they said "also you'll need to craft the final part for your BiS", almost had a mass suicide on our hands.
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>>750687574
It sounds like such a mess to get the bis now, so i need to do savage + savage alliance + craft at the end?
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>>750686960
Well you see...
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>>750677412
dont delay
act now, supplies are running out, allow if you're still alive, 6 to 8 years to arrive, and if you follow there, might be a tomorrow, but if
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So... Evercold is the raid expansion, right? They really dropped all pretence and just 100% cater to savage raiders and no one else.
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>>750687545
Of course its after Savage you fucking moron, if it wasn't it would be literally mandatory to do before you do savage progression for gear.

You should kys.
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>>750687854
yeah they basically made every piece of gear a relic (that you only need to do savage for)
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>>750688032
>if it wasn't it would be literally mandatory to do before you do savage progression for gear.
And that its bad because????
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>>750687574
craftimizer does that shit
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>>750688062
Brainlet doesn't understand busywork isn't fun
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>>750677487
i just realized they named it so people can be like "hey wanna play wow forever?"
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>>750687950
Literally the entire game already caters to casuals you big fat fucking baby. God forbid raiders get something to do every patch.
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>>750677412
ngl I dont think this is going to bring people back after dawntrail
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>>750687950
Raidniggers will never be satisfied till the msq is made for them too
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>>750688087
Its a fucking MMO retard, busywork is what you do everyday you play it, fierce being before could you know actually make people play it as no way the savagefaggots will do it with people that want to try it out, so its almost for sure a new dead gamemode
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>>750687432
>every job is VPR/SMN or one-button andy and all jobs in a role have identical flavor buttons
Yeah I’m done with this game. I enjoyed the autistic piano of old smn, but it seems like they’d rather tailor the game for addon brained macro slaves. Doubt the evolved jobs will be fun to play.
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>>750687950
They do that because even CS3 has realised that Evolved only works in a boss/raid environment. The jobs get stripped down so hard and get made so easy that you need spastic raid bosses throwing out mechanics every 5.6 seconds or else people realise how shit the combat has gotten.
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>>750687950
Casual chads will be doing boss rush
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>>750677412
>all the marketing is talking about "taking it to the next level"
>actually it's just streamlining everything and removing all the friction
wonderful
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>>750677487
i'll be joining forever. the combination of having literally nothing to do for 3 months and the keynote failing to impress me even in the slightest
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>90% of new content is collabslop and modrrn clothing

Urgh...
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>>750688446
I will do the same and then lots of roulletes with the new jobs, also go back to doing old content
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>>750677487
I can play that till evercold releases, then when i am bored i got back to forever
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>>750688446
the boss rush mode looks fun, admittedly. but they're just flat out admitting dungeon design is stagnant at this point and don't do anything about it
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>>750687432
Everything plays like VPR now?
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>>750688593
Anon is speculating, from what we saw from evolved dragoon i don't think it will play like viper, hell viper itself will get evolved
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>>750687950
ummm sweaty what about your reheated dungeonslop bosses?????
LITERALLY a game changer to do these 10 year old mediocre fights again
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>>750688663
For most of the playerbase doing these dungeon bosses again is brand new content.
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>>750688217
Mandatory busywork before you can do content you actually want to do is shit.
Never breed and pass on your shitty brainlet genes.
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>>750677412
Good. Gives me time to play Stranger Than Heaven
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>>750688817
youre never breeding either chud.
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>>750688817
Its not mandatory unless the person got autism and is in the world first race
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>>750688051
Fuck, i don't know why they did that, they implied gearing would be easier and then threw that curveball, now we went from savage and tomes to a mini relic for each slot
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>EW motif in the trailer music
nani
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>>750689106
it felt like they were going into Flow several times didn't it
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>>750689106
the reflections bruh
the ascians
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well?
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>>750689106
new arc btw
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>>750689130
>i know what a link peark is!
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>>750689130
not a fan of 'X character is a shard of Y character'. already fighting up hill
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>>750689130
Maybe they bait us and she does not become Shiva
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>>750688904
People who want to do savage already didn't like being forced to do the normal's first and then the Savage raids, it was disliked by all of them.

So they changed it. Now we get Normal before Savage.

Why the FUCK would you reintroduce the same situation nobody enjoyed? This being one week apart affects literally nobody, and only introduces something akin to Splits which are fucking lame.
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>>750689130
She will be the haurchefaunt of the expansion and Baldr will be the Ysayle.
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will it ever be her time?
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>>750687950
despite being only 14% of the playerbase....
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>>750686960
are you genuinely retarded?
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>>750677412
>zero fanfest dead
>the hype is gone
I like how fucking europe and japan fanfest basically killed ALL the hype North america fanfest had. holy shit
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How come ESO has full voice acting for every quest and this dosent?
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>>750689278
my guess is they felt they had to unload all barrels at the start to generate good will, at the risk of the other fanfest keynotes being boring
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>>750689176
This shit is just stopping in the mid of the road, if they wanted fierce to be played then fuck raiders and release it before savage instead of doing this cope shit of it coming after when literally no one will play it, i would not be surprised if the content is a failure like well most of what they did in DT
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Let me guess
We are gonna end up using the lighting aether from the ninth to counteract the ice aether from the fourth, and vice versa, and the patches are gonna revolve around doing the same between the first and the thirteenth?
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>>750689356
I don't understand why they are not releasing it at the same time.
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>>750689130
>Rimeblood
Jesus christ subtlety is dead
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>>750689451
this game has never been subtle
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>>750689258
>his smile and optimism: restored
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>>750677412
How is xiv nowadays? I remember playing it many years ago for the msq and got to the part where you leave the first town/region? I don't really remember why I dropped it, just was slow I think. I heard the expansion before evercold was really bad, if I started now could I skip that expansion?
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That keynote was a fucking disaster.
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>>750689278
They are holding the evolved jobs a lot, we got fanfests and we saw 1 healer, 1 tank and 2 dps's only, they could have tossed another one in this fanfest
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>>750689492
>but i did eat breakfast!
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>Welcome to Evercold! We got Savage Raids, Heavensward's story and characters again, more Savage raids and uhhhhhh Dungeon bosses?
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>>750689541
halibut SEETHING
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>>750689547
don't forget divided alliance raids for some reason
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>>750677412
good. more time to play gtavi.
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>Queue for Gauntlet of Power
>First boss is His Royal Headness Leonogg I
he queued?
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>>750689547
don't forget battle passes and a gearing system that is only fun for savage raiders
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Would Halmarut be mad if I fuck her great-great-great-great-great-granddaughter?
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what the fuck happened? why are they so incompetent?
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>>750689356
Fierce is still mandatory for gearing, all savage raiders are doing it regardless, dropping it on the same week just fucks with your savage community and pisses them off, waiting 7 days won't cause this to be dead content, stop doomposting.
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>>750677487
Buy an ad.
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>>750677412
mmo's are dogshit nowadays for only the most degenerate losers that need something to waste their life away
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>>750689605
Small team, please understand.
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>>750689603
>>750689603
nice virginal femra horns
>halibuts worn , green, moldy, loose.

oof
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omg this pose is so funny kek
i've only seen it 500 times LOL
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>>750689610
you get a full set of gear in a full clear of the tier anon. the only reason you'd do fierce over savage is to mop up fights you haven't finished yet
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>>750689605
yoshi old
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>>750689642
the Mandeville shit is so lame
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>>750689605
Forever keeps BTFO them and now they are pissing themselves
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>>750686491
I hate that shards of other people are literally just them now in different clothes.
Like Gerolt's shards even had different hairstyles for each one and he's a joke character for fucks sake
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>>750689594
It's NOT a battlepass, chud. It's a Seasonal Activity Level Tracker.
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1920x1080
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CAUSE YOU HAD A BAD DAY
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>>750677487
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAAHHAHAAAHAHAHHA
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How is yoship so incompetent?
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>>750689691
elaborate
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>>750677412
Weren't they confident about the release date too? rmao
>>750678545
My contract runs out at the end of January, I was looking forward to chilling for a month but guess I'll try to continue wageslaving without interruption.
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HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
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You idiots told me it'd be safe to download the free trial now. This is exactly why I'm waiting. So much shit is changing.
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Why is nobody mentioning the reveal that the MSQ is a Valkyrie Profile collab?
It's all collabs
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>>750689792
To be fair for free trial players there will be the job reworks but the current one will stay too
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So what happens with the chaotic?
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Wait what?

Is it actually delayed to feb 27?
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the last 2 season events were so bad
i can't imagine how bad evercold is
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>>750689809
Lenneth being there is the same level of reference as Queztacotl being a boss in shadowbringers
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Is this absolute HACK gonna cry on camera gain?
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>>750689825
Dead. Instead they turn 24man raids into 8 man savage fights.
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>>750689817
I just don't feel lime relearning shit after I finally got used to it. Also the content sounds like it's going to be more enjoyable and less tedious come evercold.
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>>750689771
>Forever pre release literally broke it's servers with how many people tried getting in
xiv cucks are on suicide watch, you came at the king and you fucking missed
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>>750689825
dead and gone
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yoooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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>>750689845
Quetzalcoatl is from Final Fantasy
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>>750686491
well i have an idea for a glam at least even if it's a very different weapon
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>>750689868
bro im not on either side relax
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>>750689882
This dude is stuck playing xiv forever lol. Grim.
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>FFVIIR collab
>Eva collab
>Fornite collab
>Pepsi collab
>Coco Ichibanya collab
>WWE collab
>Rue Paul's Drag Race collab
>Demon Slayer collab
>7/11 collab
>Bing collab
>My Dress-Up Darling collab
>Metallica collab
>Magnum condom collab
>World of Warcraft collab
>Johnson & Johnson collab
>FLCL collab
>Walmart collab
>Jujutsu Kaizen collab
>Beastars collab
>Beast Wars collab
>Pink Floyd collab
>Valkyrie Profile collab
>Lovense collab
>Armored Core collab
XIVBROS...!
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>>750689882
Fuck that pedo fucker, at least he is still cucked with off tank warrior
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>>750689962
Aren't you supposed to be in jail?
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>>750689982
I am not the pedo he is after, fuck him and the other pedo
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>>750677487
>>750677412
WoW obviously mogs this piece of shit which just gets worse and worse since ShB, but you're delusional if you have ANY faith in nuBlizz to make Forever any good. Every single thing you believe they won't do to turn it into the pozzed slop retail is, they will do.
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>>750677487
WoW once again proving that the genre is and forever will be defined by WoW
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>>750689962
>>750690006
>exposes pedos
>gets called one

kek
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bros i miss dragon's dogma online
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>>750689853
>>750689871
I want to reiterate. I'm talking specifically about Cloud of darkness. If so then how is that going to function going forward? It's not really possible to split it.
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>>750690037
Didn't he just expose a dude that just like loli porn? the full story is crazy
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>>750690051
That looks so bad lol.
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>>750690037
He didn't expose anything. A loli modder exposed actual pedos trading real CP and soibeard decided to go after the loli modder.
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what's her role in evercold?
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>>750690051
based
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>>750690084
ok
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>>750677412
Why does the xiv community have so many transgender pedophiles?
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>>750690052
I think the current one stays the same, i remember hearing it can be even unsynched
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>>750690072
>>750690092
ok pedos
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pedos seething
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>>750690117
fuck now I need to replay
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>>750690105
she's our tether to the 4th, like Ryne is to the 1st. she'll have a sad past and be an emotional punching bag

her and alphinaud having a thing would make the story more interesting for sure, even if its a C plot
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>>750690131
>thinking that loli is equal to real life CP
If you say so
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>>750690167
your skin is brown
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>>750690084
kys troon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_H48HizqU8
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Looks really good. Do I make room on my Xbox for the demo.... I feel like I should wait for all these changes with evercold. February isn't that far away. Why can't the free trial members be reaper btw?
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>>750690167
holy pedo cope
kill yourself lol
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>>750690167
die in a fire
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>>750690176
>>750690208
>>750690216
Retarded mutts.
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>>750690206
reaper is one expansion after the one the free trial ends, wait like 2 or 3 years and it will come to free trial maybe
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>>750677487
Mmm, a reheated burger from 20 years ago, oh boy!
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>>750690206
because reaper is an expansion class that isn't on the free trial
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>>750690165
I want Alphy to have a thing with her just so he can be a canon miqophiliac.
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Transgender xiv pedophile meltdown, WoW GODS stay winning
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>>750689498
You could - but they charge you for that. But Dawntrail ain't the problem for newcomers. You gonna spend weeks on the mainstory quests to even come that far. If you don't care for the story you'd better play something else. Here's the real problem: Story gets good - and I mean really good - with the first expansion. But until then it's a bit of a slog. If you have a lot of time on your hand give it a try.
General expansion census:
ARR - okay
HW - great
SB - okay (hated back then, but opinions shifted nowadays)
ShB - generally seen as the peak of FFXIV
-free trial ends here-
EW - good, but a bit flawed and weird pacing
DT - they just dropped the ball with this one
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>>750690196
fighter best vocation
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>>750690221
fuck off cunt
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Yoshi P was crying and shitting himself when they had to delay Endwalker. If he doesn’t commit seppuku over this delay I will be disappointed
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>>750690206
Okay listen really close xbox pedophile. Reaper is in endwalker. The free trial does not go to endwalker. Clear the fucking fat lard out of your low functioning brain.
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>>750690250
Why are you playing a game where you kill people? Isn't that just like murdering people in real life for you?
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>>750690229
>>750690232
So it literally isn't possible?
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>>750690282
today no, only in the full game
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>>750690243
EW is undoubtedly the peak, opinion disregarded. Also, SB isn't less hated. People just acknowledge that the patches are kino.
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>>750690298
>EW is undoubtedly the peak
EW is trash across the board.
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>>750690282
No jobs are locked to expansions so no
>Reaper
>Sage (my main)
>Viper
>Pictomancer
Soon to be with evercold...
>Bastion
>Zephyr
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>>750690298
EW is dragged down by the post patches being meh to shit, and that if you like what they did with garlemald and shit in the main msq
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>>750690243
Hm okay, I mean I read a lot of visual novels and stuff so I don't mind reading a lot. However in curious about two things since you seem knowledgeable about this, is the game itself not that good compared to the story? What I mean is, I want a good story of course but also I wanna play this game for all of those cool raids and fights and stuff. Like the scythe class looks super cool to me. Also how is the jp voice acting/subs? I don't use dubs.
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>>750690282
You're missing nothing. Reaper is trash.
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>>750686491
Awesome, looks fucking boring
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>>750690353
I was a lvl 65 dark knight in 11. 360 days.
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NEW JOB IS KIIIIINOOOOOOO
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>>750690092
wasn't that guy just trying to throw some other people under the bus?
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yoshi tears when
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX5jtcXjmts

this is just MCH....... but with a tiny crossbow
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>>750690439
He better dogeza so i forgive him for the delay
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wtf
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>>750690453
Literally nobody is gonna play this shitty job. This was the best they could come up with? We couldn't have gotten blitzballer?
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>>750690505
it looks like a less faggoty version of machinist
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>>750690505
Some people were asking for a crossbow job for some time, maybe it be played more than some of the other ranged
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>>750690472
i dont care cuz gta vi dd2 dark arises and crimson desert dlc is gonna take all my time anyway
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>>750690206
if you're trying to play the free trial during evercold launch you're pretty much going to get treated as a 5th world citizen if you try to log in
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>>750690505
Bard has a big bow
This has a tiny crossbow and MCH animations are better
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>>750690010
>mogs
mogs in what? being an eternal goycattle to RTA runs?
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The music is kino though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucMMJMU69mg
But zones having great music is given in this game.
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>>750690453
I like birb but it doesn't really seem to do much. It really does just looks like MCH but crossbow instead of gun, the glide move looks kind of cool but I wonder how it will work.
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>>750690539
That its fair, there are some good releases coming out to pass the time
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>>750690010
these dumb fags got mazed so hard that they're playing shit that isn't even classic anymore despite originally being sold on that premise
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>>750690527
>>750690546
There has to be a better way to do a crossbow job than literally just shooting pellets with your crossbow with a bird next to you. Dual crossbow vampire hunter? Giant ballista crossbow?
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>>750678080
How will xivsissies cope when neversold launches and within a week everyone left for forever
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>>750690595
dual crossbows would have been kino, i like zephyr's outfit at least, they feel more like a ranger than bard these days
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>>750690165
>unironically believing they will pair popular npcs with another npc
the latest patch was just a bait, this isn't GW2
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>>750677412
QRD of the fan fest?
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>>750690453
Looks like absolute ass and the class fantasy just looks boring. Who in the fuck thought this was a good idea?
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>>750690165
>>750690236
Alphyotomes would go crazy if they did that
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>TWO anti-hype flop jobs
>MONTH delay
>NO content on release anyways
>MSQ is proven to be a complete REHASH
>Even bigger raidtranny wankfest than DawnFAIL
>Yet again avoided showing DEVOLVED jobs
Doomers won.
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>>750690638
>dual crossbows would have been kino,
THISSSS
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>>750690647
Raiders won the rest lost(barring a single new game mode)
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>>750690343
The game is okay. It's classic MMORPG stuff. It's very streamlined and accessible, which is good since you can easily pick up healer of tanks or a different new job. But it's also bad because that means the gameplay will be pretty dull until you get to at least level 60. The later content is just much better too. There is loads of side content, so if you don't want to rush though the MSQ you can always just chill and go fishing or something like that, do a treasure hunt with you guild or - god forbid - socialize with other players. There's some hard versions of boss fights and raids, which I personally ignored and I put some hundredths of hours into this game. I am running some raids from older expansions now, since I don't want to bother with DT, and It really think those are fun and definitely "cool".
JP voice acting is as good as you'd expect. The english script takes some liberties, but is okay too.(English VAs got replaced in HW and seem to be well liked overall.)
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>>750690684
It's genuinely over
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>>750690647
saabisu saabisuu!
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Why are they so incompetent? Crimson Desert launched this year and look at the DLC they just launched with the massive ocean and sailing all within a few months of the game release.
Those are MMO devs making that and they're pumping out something within the same year the game released yet why in the fuck are FF14 devs so slow?
What's going on here?
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>>750677412
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>>750690757
Crimson desert is using heavy ai slop workflows even if it looks legit
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>>750690757
you're comparing a single player game with a 13 year old MMO? Are you ok?
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>>750690693
>>750690750
>this is all they had to show in three fucking fan fests
yeah I think I'm skipping this one too
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>>750690757
Funny enough PA has BDO, a mmo and made CD an offline "mmo"
Meanwhile SE does fuck all
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>>750677412
>>750677487
Not only does it blow my mind that people still play MMOs in 2026 (soon to be 2027)
The same people still continue playing the exact same games as they did 20 years ago, insisting that they're different because they just get a new title or another relaunch
Is it pure sunk cost or just some kind of autism? Do you find comfort in playing the games you're familiar with?
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>>750690817
With WoW it's trying to relive their younger days.
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>>750690858
and succeeding
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>>750690784
Then FF14 should do the same.

>>750690785
They're MMO devs, they made Black Desert did you not read my post?

>>750690795
Which makes it even funnier to think that FF16 is FF14's offline mode, it might have action combat but it's combat is cooldown focused and the map design is exactly like FF14s along with the quest design identical to FF14s.
They just seem to be so outdated now the FF14 team, I don't know why they are like this?
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>>750690795
not sure what your point is here
BDO is fucking ass too compared to CD
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>>750690873
debatable
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>>750677487
Not sure why so many people have such high hopes for this when the same fucking team that ruined all the rest are responsible for it. This is the danger with games that are constantly updated. What seems ok'ish now is susceptible to injections of shit that's not.
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>>750690105
What rhymes with 'her role', anon?
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>>750690757
Crimson Desert is like what if there's an AI slop capable enough to generate everything and someone instructed it to make an open world game with popular mechanics from other games
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>another fanfest and they have announced literally fucking nothing
its over isnt it?
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new event outfit can't be put in armoire

why
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>>750677412
it's afraid
>>750677487
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>>750677412
Will he ever spec into a Non-Melee Job?
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>>750690891
? wow forever had over 8 million people buying a god damn payed beta
that shit is gonna bang on release
meanwhile square enix
>oh sorri we release in february haha
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>>750690924
>au-ra groomers


looks lame as hell
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>>750690914
like mentioned, they fooled enough people with the classic label and now it's just retail-lite
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>>750690939
He was an archer originally, it's even in your image.
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>>750690784
>>750690921
Here's your you you worked so hard to get lol
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>>750688446
boss rush is dead within a week too because the patch cycle for this game has been dogshit for so long that 80% of the "200" bosses play the exact fucking same
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>>750690921
So? If the tool works then use it. I can tell you're not familiar with the games industry because every single studio is using generative AI, every single one even the ones saying they're not, they are. So what are you going to do now?
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What exactly should they do for ""non-raiders""? Reading text bubbles is not gameplay.
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>>750690924
I haven't played since Dawntrail, what in the fuck am I looking at here? A fucking teddy bear?
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>>750691086
It was once someone dying of cancer and they put his soul in this squirrel doll.
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>>750691086
Squirrel technically.
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>>750691070
Idle minigame, like cookie clicker.
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welp

guess its wow forever for another month then
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>>750691086
Former villain of post-dawntrail becomes a comic relief dog teddybear who gets carried around by the new villain who is a dorky psycho voiced by Hayamin (lmao at dub players for missing out on this when she pops off)
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>>750690817
Personally FFXIV (and XI which barely counts because it was a slow Trust-fueled MSQ playthrough) being the only MMO I've really gotten into I've liked the game and it's had ups and downs with it being serviceable when bad and me not being too glued to this game still having all sorts of older content to catch up on despite starting a long time ago.
That said, I'm sure all the QoL stuff will be nice and clean and stuff will feel a bit different but I think I actually am calling it a day after finishing my current sub, skeptical of the MSQ and overall at this point, even if there is a bunch more stuff and fights I still could do, I do feel I've seen enough. I am constantly tempted to just go back to singleplayer vidya among other pursuits and chill, just wanted to get the most out of FFXIV I could but don't think I'm dying to "100%" it.

Been a good run though. I don't get MMOfags playing MMOs for the sake of them being MMOs, but people enjoy different things, can't be shikatanai'd.
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>>750691070
Relic but for every slot, same ilvl as savage gear (seethe raidtroons), obtainable entirely through open world and small party activities with no savage involved.
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>>750691086
Digitized memory ghost of a shota with terminal cancer who's now inhabiting the stuffed squirrel as a temporary body.
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As long as they dont "fix" the incredibly dull rotation of
>5 min walking
>5 min talking
>30 sec combat
>repeat
This game aint gonna get new players
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did the roach king pay his indian roachlings to shill on forever or something?
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>>750691214
This guy's arc was fucking hilarious to me how he's presented as a 300 IQ genius and the best plan he can conjure to defeat the WoL is to... Summon a primal!
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>>750691070
well a good step would be doing all the things YoshiP has said they would try doing within the last 5 years only to instantly abandon them all to make more 8 man savage content
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>>750690924
it's gonna be Ysayle wank isn't it
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>>750691220
Even better, they have auto run between quest markers now so you don't even need to do the walking part anymore.
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>>750691251
>the best plan he can conjure to defeat the WoL is to... Summon a primal!
Yes, we've seen this double digit IQ opinion literally every time Calyx has been mentioned. Primals can be literally anything, you fucking idiot. It's the most versatile tool any villain could possibly use. And his plan was perfectly fine, Hiroi just decided to ignore the rules he established for Necron five minutes beforehand.
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I remember when /v/ would shitpost WoW non-stop and glaze FF14, but now it's the complete opposite. What happened?
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>>750691318
Dawntrail
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>>750691318
WoWfags developed a grudge
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>>750691275
I hope they won't turn Estinien into a simp
he'd say "fuck off, you're not MY Ysayle"
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>>750691192
>I don't get MMOfags playing MMOs for the sake of them being MMOs
there's something about "good?" MMO game design that forces people to be social in a world where everyone is just perma locked into their little bubbles. XIV really isn't one of those cases outside savage raiding or something, but sitting in some random corner of a world map farming trashmobs for resources while surrounded by 3 spanish guys who just perma spam the chat with their dogshit language for 2 hours straight activates something in my brain that no other video game can
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>>750691398
it's going to be non-stop
>remember this moment with Ysayle
>if only Ysayle was still alive...
>Ysayle would have loved this campfire...
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>>750691318
Wowfags are literally blast havers trying g to convince everyone it isn't shit. It's not even that big of a deal but removing boob physics for no reason on forever turned me off completely from it.
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anything good in the Q&A or just dumb questons again
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when will they fix the glamour system?
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>>750691251
either you're being an obtuse retard or you just forgot what Necron power was
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>>750691549
>the dude who beat up DESPAIR?
>surely another fatalistic concept will stop him!
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how embarrassing
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>>750691086
>have yet to finish msq due to lazy
>find out the twink baddie gets shoved into a plushie because i read the funny post
lmao i'm not even mad, i hope we get to watch him slip down an ice flow
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>>750691575
So you did forget what Necron's power was. It was designed so that being killed would trigger the fear of its own death and it would summon itself again on its own.
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>>750691318
Story got stale, gameplay got stale.
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>>750690938
>>750691318
As you can see from the VERY organic posts, you and your Activision masters are desperate for retention. Should have just talked about how WoW housing is superior to FF14, then you wouldn't loom so obvious.
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>>750691586
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>>750691318
XIV completely dumpstered their gameplay and betrayed their fanbase chasing short term profits from gooners.
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>>750691318
it just means that blizzmilk's paid shills are working much harder compared to past years because Last Titan is gonna be a massive joke
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>>750691086
this game is simply a joke of itself compared to arr/hw/sb
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>>750691615
bonk him again
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>>750691586
>>
>wake up
>expecting a butt slider
>not butt slider
wtf
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>>750691681
It just summons itself over and over. The concept was perfectly good. But Hiroi wrote a situation he couldn't think of an actual solution for so he just made the mechanism not work.
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I woke up expecting scion spam in the trailer and I was genuinely surprised when there was no such thing
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>>750691251
It would have worked were it not for Speen somehow talking down tempered people.
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>>750691702
they'll let you turn off butts altogether in the future!
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>>750688168
god imagine if the msq was good
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>>750690962
Did he even shoot a single arrow?
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piss off blizzcucks, if I'm gonna play an ancient mmo I'd rather play horizonXI than any iteration of your tranny trash
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>>750691762
the trailer was a nothingburger, i don't understand what was the point to show zephyr in the last patch because the new job reveal lost all the impact.
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>>750691692
lmao
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>>750677487
fpbp
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>>750691702
>Expecting that the main thing of the keynote was they overhauled character creation.
>They even talked less about it
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>Necron soon reappeared, still empowered by the Alexandrians' fear of death; Calyx explained that as a primal embodiment of the fear of death, experiencing death would only heighten its fear and revive it even stronger. Sphene realized what she must do, and contacted Shale to let her speak with the Alexandrians to convince them to not give in to the fear of death. As her words reached them, Necron started to weaken.
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>>750677487
The game of choice for transexuals.
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>>750691867
Also woke lmao breaking a barrier(even getting blood on her hands) and we attacking with our job in a cutscene for the first time
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>>750690105
Marrying me
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How is it that this game brings out closet pedos so bad
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>>750690250
>>750690176
>>750690208
>>750690216
>cunt
lmao ur a britbong cuck
ur actually gonna get arrested for thoughts of wanting to bury your face on tits, while grooming gangs rape whoever they want
join ur local grooming gang for legal immunity or just kill yourself at this point
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>>750691982
>ur
and you are black
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>>750691982
>pencil dick anger
disregarded
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>>750690924
Fuck you guys, reaper finally getting it's time In the sun with it being front and center here.

T.RPR lala
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>>750691927
you can bet your ass that scene was reworked to have WoL take the stage instead of Wuk
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>>750692000
>>750692004
lmaoo
stay mad britbong cuck
you're a criminal no worse than a nonce
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>>750692019
Lol now that you said it i can see it, such a funny scene
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>>750691086
yeah dont come back
no joke it's shit
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>>750692068
you are actually black
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>>750686491
I'm so uninterested in this job I can't even be bothered to watch the trailer.
"Crossbow guy with bird" is such a specific yet uninspired job fantasy.
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>>750677412
People still play this shit? (And WoW for that matter)
Sunk cost fallacy in action...
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>>750691318
>What happened
Dawntrail happened.
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>>750692019
it's kinda hilarious how the WoL gets to shine in the trailer again
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>>750690453
jobs in this game legitimately don't matter
the new job could've been called assblaster and rolled around on a skateboard and shot pebbles out of its ass and it'd play the same as MCH/Zephyr
granted, evolved may possibly potentially finally change things, but we have been conditioned so far to understand every DPS is different flavors of the same shit
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>>750692158
ur country will be overrun by browns and blacks while you rot in prison for liking big tiddy deepthroat porn and hate speech
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>>750692270
show your hand now
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>>750691318
Most people will instantly point to Dawntrail, but the underlying rot has been festering for a long time.
WoW shitting the bed during shadowlands and artifically injecting a ton of people into the game just bought it a little more time.
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>>750692264
Counterpoint: all jobs play the same which is exactly why they can't afford to make them visually lame. Actual dogshit like SMN is entirely propped up by summons looking cool and flashy (and I guess people who want to perform well while jerking off)
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>>750686491
Is this really the best they could come up with? They need to stop doing new jobs at this point.
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>>750692387
Imagine the shit they'd get if they release an expansion with no new jobs. They made this bed now they have to sleep in it.
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>>750692270
>>750692286
>>750692158
>>750692068
Well if you're an amerimutt, you're overrun by the Epstein AIPAC conglomerate that forces you to lick Zionist Israeli boots (or kiss that wall in Israel lol). Either way y'all cucked as a westoid. Get off your high horses.
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>>750677412
It's pretty clear that xiv is dying rapidly and most as a whole are basically near extinction beyond WoW Forever injecting the last bit of life it can squeeze out of this genre. The MMO just doesn't have any appeal anymore in 2026 and XIV is as is a bad mmo
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>>750690051
https://play.dogmarising.org/
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>>750692474
dog your government actually hosted a known pedophile for decades
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>>750692474
please touch some grass anon
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For a fanfest day the thread is pretty dead.
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>>750692474
>commie troon meltdown
kino
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>>750692270
>>750692068
>>750690250
>>750690216
>>750690208
Banning/censoring normie porn is a step towards pedo acceptance since you're branded or labeled the same criminal as they are
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>>750691275
god i love elezen women
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>>750686491
Literally reskinned machinist, this looks like dogshit
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>>750686491
this vomit vfx power creep must be studied
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>>750692918
yet another instance of modded trash being mistaken for something that'd actually be good for the game
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I just finished the main keynote thing (although I skipped most of the europe recap part and all the progression stuff I can figured it out once I am playing it)
key takeaways
>Calyx confirmed to be highly relevant to the plot
good, I hope the tasteless philistines who wanted him written out early cry
the gauntlet thing is cool, bit weird that it starts at level 51 but needs stormblood finished, I guess to guarantee more variety (I assume that's 4.0 rather than .3 or .5)
I'm highly pleased by the Evangelion trailer, I was really hoping that it would be set in the cities of the source instead of the fights happening in their own original areas so happening in the cities of the 4th is the next best thing.
Man I'm so fucking tempted by that statue.
Sex with Visna.
sex with that dungeon boss they showed
glad the main key art seems to confirm no other scions coming over
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Someone post jew hate speech facesitting porn to get both these retarded amerifats and britcucks in jail
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>>750690684
People were hype as shit for Bastion, sure this ranged DPS seems to have people not care but there's legitimately nothing interesting left in this area, slings maybe
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>>750692792
well the keynote was rather grim
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>>750692968
I blame the chinese and SEA monkeys
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Evercold, more like Everflop. vibes around it feel weird, guess the Devs have a lot to prove. WoW Forever stealing all the thunder doesn't help i guess
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Oh no nono no aahahahahah
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>>750693017
Generally throwable weapons (though overlap with Ninja aesthetic)
Javelins
Blowguns
Throwing Axes
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>>750692981
I think you have genuinely the worst takes on the game I have read since a long time here
>hes a pedo
it checks out tho
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no alisaie?
no buy
simple as
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>>750693130
are they going to implement the turn off system for older gear as well?
I imagine it's just an existing toggle like that invisible dye channel used to be
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>>750677412
>stopped following the game around Endwalker
>check out evercold video wondering if they've actually done anything to fix stale-ass itemization and formulaic content treadmill
>the best idea they came up with was adding seasons and a battle pass to make the treadmill even more rigid and repeatable
>gear is somehow even MORE homogenized now
>still 0 reasons to leave Limsa or engage with the overworld once you finish story
These mfs somehow make even nu-Blizzard look competent.
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>>750677412
NEVERSOLD
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This keynot evaporated any hype I had left for the expansion. It is literally a nothing burger and they will really not put out any content besides
>24man
>8man raids
>dungeons
>trials
Really rolling back the production on the title.
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>>750693171
I'm pretty sure Visna is meant to be a little older than she looks at first glance, like 14-15
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>>750693275
I forgot I share this webspace with brown muslims
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>no alisaie

KINOOOOOOOOO
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>>750690453
>you just... shoot bolts...

incredible. What an amazing concept.
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>>750691862
The entire thing may as well have been pic related
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>>750690453
BEHOLD THE 6 BILLION DOLLAR COMPANIES GREATEST MINDS CAME TOGETHER TO GIVE YOU! YES YOU! A BABY CROSSBOW! SAY THANK YOU YOSHI-P
>>
I mean this 100% unironically. Where is the sub money going?
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>>750693430
pocketing 70%
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i remember hearing them talk about how they want to breathe live into the open zones again. has there really been no news about this?
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>>750693470
They mentioned it but said no more than what they already did in europe
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>>750693430
Paying for FFVIIr
Paying for the next Kingdom hearts
Paying for Forespoken
Paying for XVI
Paying the shareholders
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>>750693470
coming in 8.4
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>>750693470
>>750693495
Actually I think they may have used the word world raid or something
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>>750693430
FF7 remakes, FF17
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>>750691923
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>>750693323
enjoy your dead game troon
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Any news on devolved mode?
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>>750693536
>>750693587
XIV has always been a troon game, even the japs don't give a shit about it anymore.
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It's a good thing I've ended my sub on endwalker and didn't even bother with dawntrail. They have really killed this game themselves. I remember there was a point where wowfugees were literally migrating to FFXIV

It's really, really sad.

Luckily, in my headcanon my WoL is happily living in his farm, fucking Alisaie every day while Alphinaud sucks his balls like a femboy. It's a good life.
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>>750693027
I don't know what they're thinking with this presentation, it's the double whammy of a boring presentation along with the shit news of a month's delay.
What in the fuck were they thinking?
>>
garlenigger larpers with a HUGE L
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>>750693430
These are the correct answers
>>750693503
>>750693513
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>>750693512
World raid? Why are they absolutely obsessed with the only combat in this game being raiding? Are they that unimaginative?
>>
Field Area enhancements and the whole world content shit was mentioned, but only briefly and that it won't be ready for 8.0 so please look forward to it in 8.56.
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Isn't their refusal to show any new evolved gameplay a perfect example of their complete inability to deviate from strict formulas? In every other expansion we'd get a liveletter close to release showing job gameplay, which was fine because it's a minor part of expansion features. But the evolved combat is the biggest feature of evercold, and they won't show it at the fanfest because of.... the job liveletter?
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>she's going to be around for more one a single zone
based, love this cutie
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who did all the town music for ff16? the theme music shown in fanfest sounds very similar
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>>750693823
zones not being built with it in mind can only mean its gonna be shit when it eventually arrives. seriously, the only engaging combat this engine can deliver is in boss encounters and everything else is boring ass shit
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>>750693873
she , the roe, and warrior of light will be the light hearted characters.
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>>750693765
literally everything they make that isn't a boss fight is fucking horrible, at this point they just gave up on trying anything new
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>>750687545
This is pathetic, and i say this as someone who plays and enjoys savage. It would make much more sense for it to come before savage.

If it would make people better prepared for savage i see it as a plus, not a minus. Or at the very least the same day as savage, if the muh world race is so important (it isn't)
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>>750677487
Sodapoppin, Asmongold, Xaryu, Pikaboo, and Esfand are ALL playing WoW Forever, if you're not playing then what are you even doing?
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>>750693839
>>refusal
>say months before the fanfest evolved will be in it's own dedicated liveletter and not at the fanfest keynotes
>evolved is not in the fanfest keynotes
wooooooah
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>>750693638
No. That only happened with the WoW exodus
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>>750677487
Troons malding in the replies.
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>>750693967
lmao zoomer faggot. Take your friend simulators and shove them up your adderall-brained ass.
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>>750693765
They probably have streamlined the boss production to an absurd level and they don't bother training people to actually change the game in a meaningful way to accommodate other content.
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>>750693939
If you're gonna be doing Savage regardless of Fierce then doing Fierce will be a waste of time.
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>>750689176
You're retarded. Anyone interested in doing savage would probably like to give fierce a try too.

It would be a fun middle difficulty between savage and normal, and it would help to prepare for savage, as you would get some knowledge about the bosses and maybe a little boost in power.

Even the world racers would play this. Their choice to not interfere with the current way of doing things is complete retardation
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>>750677412
>>750686491
damn zephyr looks like utter slop.
did they show how much of a nothingburger "evolved" is yet?
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>>750693939
yeah I don't understand it either, poopsockers can skip Fierce if they don't fancy doing "busywork" and employed people can simply get better gear
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>>750693975
>Adhering to strict formulas to the point of being a detriment is fine because they said they would beforehand
Nigger what? they had nothing to show at EU or JP fanfest because evolved is the biggest feature of evercold. Can you imagine if they didn't show any graphical updates at the endwalker fanfests because they had a scheduled graphical liveletter before release? The entire point of the fanfest is to create excitement and market the game
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>>750687545
It is genuinely amazing how they manage to shoot themselves in the foot at every turn.
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>>750693839
they didn't know what they wanted to do with it when they first revealed it, just that they would do it; it was very obvious
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>>750689610
I don't think it'll be dead content, but why release it after savage? What is the logic behind playing the uber hard version before the slightly harder one?
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>>750694018
Cunny world
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>>750689389
That was what people were speculating about the 1st and 13th since Shadowbringers, so yes.
>>750691172
Anyone who plays post-Dawntrail or XVI subbed is missing out. Her voice is sex.
>>750693470
Gone just like the concept of Free Companies fighting to get control of Primals in the open world
>>750693873
She's going to be part of the FFXIV: Infinity War in a few expacs alongside our Oracles of Light and Darkness, Zero, and Lamaty'i
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>>750687545
I mean, by the looks of it Fierce is the ONLY content casual players get to enjoy for an entire season (that is two patches) that lets them improve their iLevel. So it doesn't matter if its a week later. I hope it won't be too hard, if that stuff is on Extreme level it will filter so many people.
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>>750694261
Honestly the issue is that if it's content you need to PF that's already going to be too much friction for casuals, if it's so easy you can clear it on DF then what is the point?
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So if I don't FoMo clear the savage raids asap I will forever be behind? Even worse if I play on an even patch when everyone is busy with the 24man savage version and I somehow have to get people to clear the previous tier?

This system causes more problems than it solves.
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I fell asleep 10 minutes in
Where are the slides?
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I heckin' LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE collabs!!
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>>750677412
>delayed to stay out of Forever's way
ohnononoHAHAHAHAHAHA
they talked all that mad shit
only to get HUMBLED
kneel and kiss the ring bitch
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I don't understand why they split the 24man raids. What is the intent behind that? Who is that for?
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>>750694839
>November 2026
>February 2027
By february forever will probably have wow tokens and a cash shop added, im not confident on blizz not fucking it up
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>>750694870
the autopath/walk audience. really, this game feels so confused to me
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>>750694870
No one unless we will have nier tier raids.
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>>750694907
you mean by december once the raids go live
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>>750694870
>I don't understand why they split the 24man raids.
adhd retards
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>>750694870
Raiders unironically. A lot of raiders avoid the 24mans because they take too long and they are bored.
Every single thing in Evercold caters to savage raiders, casuals are no concern for the devs any more.
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>>750695031
Are you retarded
>>
are you forced to do shitty savage tiers for ults now?
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>>750695110
What ultimates
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>>750694870
yoship is a firm believer that the average gamer has like 10 minutes to play a day between commutes, and alliance raids simply take too long for this incredibly busy imaginary person
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>>750695080
No, just stating facts. People who do savage don't want anything else, so shortening/automating content like that is just up their creek.
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>>750695031
anything to scapegoat raiders huh? do you really think splitting alliance raids in half would make them care? has nothing to do with raiders
when the usual "i'm a dad and only have 10 minutes per week" demo is much louder, and chink game design is getting more and more popular, they just think the reason people don't do content is because "it takes too long"
when the real reason is that it's boring and never really incentivized well
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>>750695031
The only fix that alliance raids needed was the constant Crystal Tower spam in roulettes and they do this? I simply don't understand the dev team anymore
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>>750695141
Do you understand that there's zero reason for savage raiders to do 24 man in the first place?
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>>750695152
>anything to scapegoat raiders huh?
Yes, loud savage faggots are the reason the game is in such a fucking awful state.
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>>750693923
>warrior of light will be the light hearted characters
But i'm a battle obsessed psycho
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I would do alliance raids if every new raid wasn't sleep inducing.
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>>750694839
What's truly flabbergasting is that they're still talking shit despite that by scheduling pre-orders on the same day that Forever launches.
It's an overt and blatant attempt to steal attention away from their competitor - without a morsel of acuity for how arrogant and petty this makes them look.
Madness.
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They flipped it around.
Now casuals need two patches to attain max iLevel, while raiders are done as soon as they clear the raid.
EC flips that and casuals are done with the first patch of a season (not even getting max ilevel, they gated that for only raiders now) while raid troons gotta keep playin and payin to get BiS.

Removing the carrot on a stick for your largest audience sure is a gamer move Yoshida.
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>>750694870
If it actually gets people queuing for alliance raids on materia more I will be happy but i'm not holding my breath
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>>750695285
Well, imagine your current queues, okay? How long they take?
Good. Double that. Because with the split you have to do it twice.

No one in CS3 actually plays their game outside of internal QA servers.
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>>750695282
Why do casuals need ilvl
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>>750695248
literary intelligence 0.
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>>750695319
Because people like to work on something, even if it is as mundane as raising your item level. It makes to do content. Now you removed that and casuals are left with literally nothing for the second patch of a season.

Is this really such a hard concept for people?
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>>750692981
Although in saying that about the Eva raids I just realized being set on the 4th means the raids can't include the G-Warrior, maybe they set it on the 4th precisely to avoid having to work in the G-Warrior
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>>750695319
why do raiders need ilvl when they can clear everything with day 1 crafted gear?
you need some objective or what is the point
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>>750677487
fippy bippy
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the liveletter was absolute shit but WoL launching a city sized gallows at the giant was kino
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theres really no version of the trailer song without the sfx? wtf?
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>>750695378
Wait which part of the trailer was that? Wol straight up jumping at one of the giants stuck in my mind too much to remember anything else
I may have also zoned out during that part from sleep deprivation
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>>750694870
They split them so that the hardcore raiders have more content.
They simply lied about the reasoning behind the change in order to justify it.
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>>750695407
its right before that, you see it engulf the sky from alphinaud's perspective
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>short boss rushes
>splitting raids in half
>battle pass activity
>single gearsets for all a character's items
>auto walk
They are turning XIV into a mobile game.
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Why is Soken unable to do anything else that's not rock or rock derivative music now? ARR was symphonic rock/orchestral rock, Heavensward was more classical, Stormblood was epic orchestra with oriental instruments touches, and everything else since Shadowbringers is guitar shit and sounds the fucking same.
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>>750695508
thank god
nobody likes the current dogshot design
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>>750695383
That usually doesn't come out until after the expansion comes out
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>>750695435
>alliance raids
>hardcore
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>>750695472
Alphis got some big nouliths and a big cock.
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>>750695569
No? Endwalker was full of classical pieces, including the main body of the motiff.
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>>750690298
Endwalker literally killed the game, it had the worst content in the history of this shit. Everyone I know stopped playing and every FC on my server died.

Game peaked at Stormblood hard.
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>>750691318
Shills stopped getting checks from Square.
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the new upgrade system is actual fucking cancer
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>>750695627
Based Oldfag.
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>>750695627
garlenigger larpers still SEETHING

EW was a gift.
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this looks like absolute DOGSHIT
god this game sucks
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The complete lack of new world content or adjustments to existing (and terrible world content like fates/hunts) has totally killed any small amount of hope I had left for this expansion. Might as well call this a co-op multiplayer boss rush game and not an mmorpg. All the mmo aspects of this game have been sanded off and the world now just feels like a backdrop for the MSQ that gets way too much praise for what it is. What a total joke.
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>>750695648
somehow they managed to come up with a worse system than tomestones
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>>750695627
Yep. Shitwalker was so bad it broke my conditioning and got me to permanently unsub for the first time since heavensward.
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>>750695735
go back to wow tranny
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>dungeons
>trials
>extremes
>savage
>24man
>24man savage
>ultimates
Is this literally it for content for Evercold?
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I'm genuinely shocked at how mediocre and tepid that was and at how thoroughly Berlin and Tokyo Fanfests have completely erased the crazy hype I was feeling right after US Fanfest. It should need to be studied how a team can so totally botch the opportunity of having such an immense amount of attention and goodwill and just let it all drip away with vagueness, uncommunicativeness and being out of touch.
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Speaking as a casual player that doesn’t even touch extremes after bad experiences, if the fierce raids aren’t easier than extreme trials then I will not be doing it.
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>>750695472
It took me a while to figure out what you meant not realizing gallows is a reaper ability but that is pretty cool, if I can actually get a good few nights of sleep for the first time in months I'll have to do a rewatch of the trailer and actually pay attention to it all. oh god it sucks, if my sleep problems keep up I may not even be able to do extremes for evercold

I do hope they can make the fights in game feel suitably epic for being against such a large opponent, getting that feeling of the whole city sieging it with you right would go a long way.
and looking at that last segment of the trailer now I really like how the NPCs were so excited to see you getting ready to jump at the giant, I'm ready to get jerked off as an apology for dawntrail.
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>>750695825
posted it again! kek
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>>750690453
I was hyped for Geomancer from the last trailer. Hoped the bird thing was just a red herring. This is lame.
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>>750695735
I think the gauntlet thing starting at level 51 (although unlocking with stormblood) is a good sign that they might be getting more willing to go back and upgrade old stuff, as much as I think the alliance raid splitting is probably a mistake they also implied they would backport it eventually so that's more hope for that sort of thing. at the very least backporting shared fates to old zones seems like a really good way to add in some of the skill reskin rewards
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>current rank 1 BST in NA is clearly cheated
What a great and engaging system you have build, Ozma.
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>>750695804
This guy talked a lot of shit but was actually weak as fuck.
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>>750696053
What's funny is that they delayed the rankings to patch out the most common "cheating" strat but they still refuse to ban plugins.
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>>750696059
just like the garlean empire.

KINOOOOOOOOO
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Well, as expected this was a huge nothing burger again. Like someone down here already said, I don´t give a damn about anything if the meat of the game (combat) is still shit. The new job is the most random reddit "design a class" thing I´ve seen so far from the game. So many original FF jobs available and they insist on creating such underwhelming stuff because yadayada FFXIV original but at the same time, the Savage AND Alliance raids are suddenly okay with being maximum fan service again.

What I am way more concerned with is how super accessible everything has to be. The game is in no way a real MMO to me since many expansions ago but now they turn the lobby simulator up to 11. It´s okay, I am mostly here for the combat and bosses but if you design the whole game for maximum convenience and everyone has to be able to do everything how should I trust in the devs not doing the same with every god damn job available? With this new philosophy now I can´t see them designing jobs with any friction or fail states. I hope I am wrong but I fear I will be right.
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>>750696095
The guy had 3 runs with basically a max score. There must be some plugin that makes the character invincible.
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>>750696108
Uh, to be against the wave at the moment I feel incredibly positive about the expac going forward. Sure, there's a lot of content that hasn't been announced but they're genuinely polishing the process they've been good at and continually gets people to play and invest time into (hit the bad guy, get prettier, play with friends).
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>>750696059
The hype behind his birth was far greater than his actual abilities and that's what undid him. Dawntrail had this underlying theme about what the weight of expectations can do to a nigga and could have been better explored if they hadn't spread it across way too many undercooked characters.
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>>750693430
yoshi's still paying off that castle he leased to grill burgers at during the 2014 fanfest
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>>750696185
>having to steal cope from fucking reddit of all places
xivsissies have truly hit rock bottom kek
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>>750696095
Rankings in a game where shit like splatoon has 2 million downloads is so pointless. I refuse to believe any of the people in all 4 deep dungeon rankings haven't cheated their asses off. It only makes sense in PVP and even there it's cheated as fucking hell
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>>750694870
The mobile players they seem to be designing the game for.
>battle pass daily system
>auto path fart trail
>cutting alliance raids in half
>new boss rush mode is promoted with how short the commitment is
They really seem to dislike the fact that this successful game is an MMO and not a mobile game which is why they literally tried and failed to remake it as a mobile game. Now they're just doing it to the main game instead of relying on China.
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>>750693430
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>single gearsets for all a character's items
huh? what do you mean? maybe I missed it.
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>>750677487
gyatt
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>>750696402
skelves do NOT look like that
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>>750677412
>>750677487
>FFXIV flinched to a 22 year old game

How do you even come back from that?
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>>750686491
>pet class
>in a game that hasn't had pet management for a decade at this point
what was the rationale here
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>>750696356
>auto path fart trail
This didn't really bother me originally but then in this fan fest they talked about it not even being finished yet and I think it is perhaps a lot more dev work than I assumed, why not put that pathfinding effort into trusts so they don't have to ruin the dungeons for the trusts to be able to be more retarded
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>>750696426
Do you mean the thing where you can sync your highest ilevel to other jobs? the trade off is when you do that your materia isn't applied so if you want to really push yourself to the peak on multiple classes you still need multiple sets.
if you don't mean that I probably skipped past that part
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>>750696518
rationale?
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Pros from this fanfest:
Delayed to ensure high quality and avoid a buggy mess of a launch
Plenty of boss fight content which is what the game excels at
Gauntlet seems more interesting to level alts with than the duty roulette but will likely be implemented in a disappointing way
Shaking up the gearing formula (slightly) which has been stagnant for a decade+

Cons:
New job is possibly the least exciting yet from a visuals/identity standpoint
Overhaul to outdoor content has been seemingly dropped or postponed to irrelevancy
Perhaps less content than ever for non-raiders
Story is confirmed to be a HW rehash even featuring the same characters
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How do I even find a savage raid static? Where do I even look for that?
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>>750694870
so salaryman can play it on his 15 minute lunch break
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>>750696507
apparently by doing a salty runback and making your pre orders available on the same day said 22 year old game launches while larping like it's an 'own'
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>>750696259
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETQY3OGnotA

sovl
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>>750696518
BST work has to be repurposed somehow
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>>750677412
anyone got the new 'Berd?
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>>750696624
Discord. The game which catters especifically to raiders doesn't have a system for raiders to find groups so you have to use external programs
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>>750696780
Is there a general discord channel for that?
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>>750696780
grim
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>>750696603
>>New job is possibly the least exciting yet from a visuals/identity standpoint
thats the best part
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Man, it's getting so old. They can't fuck up after the last dog shit expansion either, what will they do if the raid niggers quit? Not like there's any other content
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The XIV Forum is constantly dying today. and its not because of high traffic. what is going on
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>>750695569
If you're referring to the main themes, from what I understand it was Nobuo Uematsu that composed them for ARR/Heavensward/Stormblood before he stopped, which explains why every main theme since Shadowbringers has been some form of butt rock.

I still think it's strange since Soken is clearly capable of doing other kinds of music, it's either what he really wants to do or he's just phoning it in
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>>750696849
Raid niggers won't quit. Casuals will. And that is when the game dies. Remember raiders are at max 20% of the population.
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based yoshi-pee attempts to increase the percentage of the player base who raid by making the rest unsub
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Have they said anything about skipping DT? I don't want to have to buy an expansion only to skip every cutscene, can I jump directly from EW to 8.0?
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>>750696836
How?
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seriously, new class and no one's doing new 'Berds? wtf happened???
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>>750697007
i want to look the least flashy possible
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>>750677412
Im still finishing stormblood. Take your time
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The only thing I liked is the Gauntlet of Power because since SHB, and even a bit in SB, I disliked how prior dungeon bosses would feel over like nothing when I know some of them used to at least require basic attention. Ideally I had hoped they'd actually fix legacy balancing , but this is close enough of an answer that I'm ok with.
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>>750697008
bro its been over for a long time. no one in the west cares about this dogshit game anymore. asia has to carry it
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>>750696870
He does buttocks because that's basically his signature, and also because SHB did it and was a success so don't stray from success formula.
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LA HEE
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>>750696603
Even at Berlin they said the "new overworld content" wasnt coming until after launch, so already 8.1/8.2ish.
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>>750696507
do they care about WoW? i don't think anyone in japan plays it
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>>750697141
Ive seen that girls pussy on the left.
Amanda was it?
She has nudes and videos of her sucking cock.
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>maehiro writes Heavensward
>excellent story, and kills off Ishikawa's characters
>fast forward 10 years
>ishikawa writes her way into retarded children's stories tier plot points like "there are copies of us in other worlds!" and flying magical pigs that cure the tempered
>gets main writer role for Evercold due to getting overhyped generally by fujoshi and shadowbabs, only to do "what if Heavensward was a wattpad fanfic" and find an excuse to resurrect her OCs
I assure you, I fucking assure you Haurchefant will come back too. Screencap this. God I hate Ishikawa and her cultists so much it's unreal.
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>>750697220
Yoshida is a huge WoW fan, and has said a lot of others on the team play it. It's very likely EC was delayed so they could play and the quality shit is an excuse.
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Would you prefer if they paraded around content that will be only addend in 8.5?
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>>750697220
only mazed rats play retail
also I find it funny that blizzcucks only talk about forever, as if they're fully aware and are ashamed of retoilet's current state
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>>750697279
Ishikawa isn't writing Evercold, also originally she didn't feel fall into the exact copies shit. Things and people on the First were familiar but different enough, while the other shards are completely different worlds with no geographical comparison and the people are copies.
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>>750697335
if it's non-raid related content, sadly yeah
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>>750697279
Feminist terrorism again
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>>750697394
>Ishikawa isn't writing Evercold
It's pretty much confirmed after they said she's secluded in a room writing, not allowing anybody else to interact with her, even if jokingly.
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>>750697335
I would prefer if they didn't dick us around with
>more info in Berlin
>actually no wait more info in Tokyo
>ahh etto err umm etto more info in LL/it will be in 8.X...somewhere
They did this for Evolved, they dud this for the supposed overworld addition which, knowing ozma, is probably not on schedule because he wants it to be a separate foray shit, they did this with job animation glamours
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>Savage in even patches
>Savage in odd patches
>Ultimates around there as well
People got burned the fuck out in EW with less.
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>>750677487
reject agp modbeasts
embrace (and impregnate) sky elves
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>>750697482
She's not at fan fest. They made that comment a couple months ago, EC has been finished narratively for a while now, and if she was writing it they absolutely would've been advertising that fact because they know her name carries insane goodwill alone. Far more likely she's doing early drafts of 9.0, or 8.3.
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>>750696942
Answer please...
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>>750697497
>ultimates
Anon, I'm going to hold your hand when I say this...
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>>750697497
The devs somehow think EVERYONE that plays the game has 30 hours per week to dedicate to raiding, while simultaneously designing the game (the part that people actually enjoy playing) to be 3 minutes a day. When was the last time the people in charge actually understood their playerbase?
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Will they bring back the harpy hebe if they get desperate enough?
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>>750697562
After DT they will not advertise their writers.
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>>750677412
>sundering Alliance Raids
but for what fucking purpose???
they changed praetorium and no one batted an eye because that was rightfully dogshit content
but the flavor of Alliance Raids was because they were one big slam through this dungeon that you had to commit to, with all those players around you that you never get to experience outside of like a Bozja or a hunt train
Why the fuck turn it into some weird Dungeon + where its 2 bosses and out? dont they see how it cuts into the flow of the old raids? the flow of the dungeons was supposed to be some sort of escalation from 1 to 4, in one single beat, but now its 1 to 2 and your out, gotta queue again, which kind of devalues the experience
my favorite fight is still thunder god, but i feel like he never would have worked as well if he was like the first boss in the duty, he worked because mustadio and agrias busted your nuts slightly then he was like the exclamation point at the end of the sentence--ultima was then like your victory lap. Now theyre taking that away, for what? For WHO?
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>>750697615
Sounds like the gauntlet is more your speed
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>maintenance mode all but confirmed
Told you retards.
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>>750697667
danke anon you got Ilbastion by any chance?
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>>750697643
That's fair for new writers, but they absolutely would advertise Ishikawa or even Maehiro given that they're responsible for expansions majority of people liked. It's free real estate.
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>>750697667
thanks for the new 'berd.
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>>750697670
Anon, XIV has been a coom and goon game since SHB. Majority of players do not want the MMO to be an MMO, so they're simply catering to the majority.
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>>750697727
Not if they produce a flop and maehiro already did ffxvi
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>>750697701
>>750697793
I dont but can you guys share some berds for my collection
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The next luckybancho is going to be catastrophic
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>>750697823
Ishikawa hasn't produced a flop (she has but not in the average player's eyes which is all marketing cables about). It just doesn't make sense to not advertise her if she's not the main writer. EC is already a blatant apology letter for DT anyways.
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>>750697898
sure
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>>750691630
There's an interesting statistic coming out of Japan about height. Apparently since meat has become more readily available in the last few decades, all their kids are like 5" taller. It was the predominantly vegetarian diets making them tiny.
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>>750697942
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>>750697942
>>750698002
>>750697793
where be our comrade, the Bastionberd?
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>>750697595
As much as I would like them to drop Ultimate, I really doubt they will because I think the dev team likes making them and they can pretend they are prestigious fights even though every WFR has been heavily cheated since TEA. I doubt they're that resource intensive either, it's just 1 arena witch changing backgrounds, most of the models are recycled, and they basically last forever
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AINT NO BASTION TAKING MY MT ROLE I CHALLENGE YOU ILBAST
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>>750697942
thank you based anon
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>godless realms
>nobody outside of the source is aware hydaelyn and zodiark are dead and already have their own branches of worship for millenia
Kind of a misnomer, no?
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>>750698082
ilWAR we need to talk about our strat, like seriously dude, why do we need to vote
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>>750691692
Well, he still got 3rd.
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>>750698071
The thing is where do they fit? Maybe end of expansion only instead of X.1, because having ult and alliance savage will be a lot if it's even twice an expansion, no one will want to rush an alliance savage to be BiS for an ult and then feel they're left out if not or needing to prog both simultaneously
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Why not have some modifiers for the gauntlet? Make them weekly or something
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>>750696942
It's important to truly immerse yourself in the story of dawntrail, the rage is good for you
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>>750698094
Maybe they mean the other shards didn't have a version of the twelve or some shit
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>>750687458
>4th shard ysayle
What kind of ass-pull is that?
I thought the shards all evolved independently from one another and werent literal copies of the source
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>>750695569
>Why is Soken unable to do anything else that's not rock or rock derivative music now?
He's under the false impression that he's somehow a rock star now, the Primals combined with working with that commie faggot from the last raid series has warped his perception of reality.
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>>750694870
I missed everything. How are they split? Is it the same content twice like Normal/Savage or is it more unique instances just shorter now?
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>>750695825
They said they were going to go all out for Evercold because they need to win people back after Dawntrail, so how have they done that? with
>>750695810
In other words the same shit we've had all along with very minor tweaks.
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>>750697485
>they did this with job animation glamours
This one especially pissed me off, if they didn't want to elevate any one job hence the first one they showed being job agnostic they could have chucked together a naruto run or something
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>>750698334
No its literally just split into Boss 1+2 and Boss 3+4
yeah, literally adding an additional queue time to your standard AR run
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>>750698328
That was the case in SHB, but EW and DT are referenceslop with the shards and ruined the whole premise
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>>750695136
This is it exactly which makes zero sense because it's an MMO, they're specifically known for grinds and spending a long time in the games yet YoshiP seems to want to turn the game into a mobile drop in drop out game thinking this will attract a mythical 'younger audience' rather than catering to the MMO audience that showed up to play the game in the first place.
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>>750698418
jesus christ
hopefully they realize how retarded this is and walk it back next expac. to be stuck with this shit for 3 years for this raid series is a fucking catastrophe
the entire point is that you're taking SOMETHING of a risk queueing for this easy ass content because it's long and you have the POSSIBILITY of not finishing it. God FORBID you don't finish content in the game. Whoever likes this can eat my asshole.
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>>750698382
>They said they were going to go all out for Evercold because they need to win people back after Dawntrail
How is exclusively catering to raiders going to do that?
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The casualisation of the game is going to kill it.

The alliance raid shit is fucking retarded
>Our players complained about having to play the game so we cut it in half
I fucking hate the XIV community so fucking much.
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>>750698554
That also makes zero sense because like 90% of the content they release are raids that take several days of practice to learn. Do they want the game to take 10 minutes a day, or 3 hours a day?
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>>750698554
It hasn't been an MMO for a very long time. In fact, old XIV veterans i talked to when I started already prefaced it back in 2017 as it not really being like other MMOs, and it has only strayed further since
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>>750697909
Nope, if the next luckybancho shows a drop it will be an unreliable measure of counting subs, sorry doomer!
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>>750698604
i dont mind it for new AR like the evangelion shit (hooray for change I guess)
but doing this in old AR is crap
and the flow of the old raids will suffer for it
imagine getting interrupted for a whole ass ten minutes queueing for Cid like dude wtf
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>>750698554
And then you have to do hundred hours of msq just to catch up.
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As I'm leaving the game, I will tell the truth as I don't need to play the nice guy. FF XIV is not a game. It is a click + walk simulator. I can do most dungeons & raids without looking to screen in encounters. This game has been dumbed down too much for ultra-casual people with low intelligence and zero skill. Square Enix only cares about the money and designed the game for them. Even single player FF games are much harder. The game has no future at all unless they go back and make things hard again. All dungeons and raids should be hard. All instances should have ilvl and level scaling. Casual players should improve or go play another game for children of 3 years old. Or Square can just create a movie version of the game for them. We don't need losers to exist.
Someone daring to tell the truth is always good no matter whether he breaks the record for most downvotes.
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Only explanation I can think of is that new alliance raids are going to be longer than usual.
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>>750698787
yeah yeah nice xivdiscussion post
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Reception to the alliance, gearing, and changes shown so far are very mixed everywhere. First time I've seen a lot of yoshida dickriders have different opinions, probably a bad sign for the future of this game since a lot of them defended the worst decisions of SHB, EW, and DT.
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>>750698895
Because it is legit puzzling what they have been cooking. Right now it seems that casuals get way less avenues to gain power while raiders grind basically doubles.
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>>750698851
They're probably slightly longer now that they've been designed with the savage in mind.
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>>750698778
Wait, they're changing the old ARs too?
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>>750698895
I don't really care about alliance changes, but I find it baffling, just like the auto walk. Shit no one asked for.
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>>750698978
Game is changing to "It plays itself" because second life troons complain hard about having to play the game.

We should have got XIVLauncher and Dalamund banned.
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I just realize that most of the pro raid sundering people are murica and euro DC players
maybe you retards are the reason why this dumbfuck change even happened in the first place because apparently the lot of you would chimp out and leave the group like some average wowcucks if the kills take 1 minute longer than the average
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the game is playing itself john
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>>750699096
We should have pushed back on "This game respects your time."

It's bullshit. You don't play a MMO for it to respect your time.
If you want a game that does that you go and play a single player game.
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>>750698949
yeah its why there's such an uproar
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Now that all have had their presentations, updated objective big three standings.
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>>750699092
This seems really weird because at the same time they insist on loading the game with raid content, basically every time they've tried something "new" since Island Sanctuary, it's been raid content
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>>750699204
I am legit thinking about purchasing WoW Forever.

And I don't take that decision lightly.
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>>750699202
Oh my god they are actually fucking retarded
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>>750698949
Not for now
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ARs are short that so raiders can prog without losing their minds
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>>750699220
a bold choice shill
will you also "decide" to get the new retail expansion, just because?
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>>750699274
lol the shills keep ignoring retoilet because it's literally the worst mmo in the market right now
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>>750699096
It's always JP, actually.
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>>750699274
Nah, retoilet can suck my left testicle.
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>>750699265
The savage alliance raid is only two fights, though. Not two sets of two fights, just two fights.
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if you wowfaggots want to shill your own shit dont do it so obviously
criticize xiv in this thread for how it sucks and not how much this makes you want to "try some other game oooh"
otherwise your just gonna be treated as a lame shill/botjeet
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Wait you don't have to pay extra to play WoW Forever?
You just need a subscription?
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>>750699463
XIV sucks dick now so of course MMO fans are going to look to other MMOs. Seethe, cope, and dilate troon.
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>>750699426
it's even more retarded that you believe that the same exact devs behind retoilet will somehow make another good iteration of "classic" wow
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>>750699605
Retoilet devs aren't even working on Forever. It's a different team.

Shows how much your retarded ass knows.
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>>750699463
just imagine the sub fall off if they got rid of auto demo
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>>750699463
they should still copy the transmog wardrobe from WoW.
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man, this shit is depressing, why did they have to turn xiv into a hardcore raid simulator?
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its ever so interesting how wow troons always project their own addictions to the rest of the world
>oh, i cant possibly resist playing a subscription-based mmo game
>i cant possibly just unsubscribe if i dont like it
>i just cannot go cold turkey
lmao
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>>750699605
The WoW forever beta was good and the dev team decided to push back on some of the players gripes citing that friction in a MMO is needed.
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>>750699726
This but with XIV troons too.
>Oh they expect me to play the game
>I can't possibly think about doing long winded content
>I just can't do a 2 week long relic grind
>I'm going to complain and seethe and dilate instead till they nerf the content.
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>>750699726
its why ffxiv is still a superior game for all its flaws
i can just quit (like i did after DT) and come back to the game without any reservations or second thoughts
look at all the content I missed! OMG its still there!
except the alliance raids maybe fuck

also this is for you raid fucks
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>EW was the raid expansion, but DT will be better
>DT was the raid expansion, but EC will be better
>EC was the raid expansion, but 9.0 will be better
MAZED
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>>750699891
>9.0
anon... we need to talk
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>>750699891
>Yoshida finally committed to the raid+goon gameplay loop
I'm thinking evercold will be gigabased
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