Gaming collapse when?
>>750646512More like American gaming collapse because eros can make 10, 9/10 games for 500 mil
>>750646512>GamingYou mean US gaming and its already fucked.Good riddance.
Where does this (((guy))) get his money for his (((career))) from?
second holocaust (but for real this time) when?
half the money goes to consultants btw
what if they spent less money haha
>>750646876they just spend it on employee salaries, that's where it all goes
>>750646613Do not post the mentally ill white woman
>>750646512I had more fun playing Schedule 1 which was made with scraps than any game that cost over 100 million dollar to make.
>>750646512Remember how Kojima's MGSV budget of 85 million USD was scandalously bloated and got him fired? I remember.
>>750647451>half the budget was spend making the Fox Engine which was supposed to be Konami's MTFramework/REengine powering their future games.
game will have insane legs, will see a surge during the Holidays and the 10 year plan they have in place for the incredible multiplayer/horde mode will keep people buying into E-Dayit’ll be fine, it’ll probably make at least 3-4 times its budget in a few years time, way too soon for conjecture, it’s not a massive flop like Wolverine
>>750646512I would love to see a detailed breakdown of how that money was spent.
>>750646512When studios start moving out of California
WTF Asha, you assured us all that everything was going to plan and taking this off Snoy would destroy the PS5WHAT THE FUCK!
Most successful aaa game up to now was re9 which was 40-60M.
um, Kojima Sisters? does this bode well for Physint? the XBOX budget Asha has promised Hideo will still be honored, right?
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Pretty soon they'll cost around 500k with no noticeable difference in quality (this is not a compliment).
>This is what games cost now This is literally the only game I've ever seen cost $500m. Everyone was shocked at how much Wolverine cost and that was $300m
>>750646876The people with the money printer won't ever do that. You need to give up AAA.
>>750647803The Coalition is in Canada.
>>750647451Yeah, I do remember that.>>750647559And then they used it for, what, two games? Survive and a PES game? Fucking Konami.
>>750646512>100m more that concordgranted Eday sold more but with that gap this has to be a concordian level failure
>>750646512leftists will look at this and still say no to AI being used in game development LOL
its not on PS5 and Timdog can sleep well knowing this, worth every penny, oh and fuck Steam this should have been an XBOX exclusive FULL STOP
>>750646512Fucking why?
>>750647720Sorry chud, Christmas 2026 belongs to MARABVLLS when their single player patch drops. And if those Destiny 2 cucks want their vaulted content back, they'll buy Marathon, too.
>>750648291Sweet Baby Inc tax
>>750648251yea the $500M apparently doesn’t count marketing and they definitely spent way more on marketing for this game compared to Concord, so it migbt have lost more money overall
>>750648261I lean center-right and I voted for this
>game studios in the 1990s>let's make a game with a compelling gameplay and artstyle>game studios in the 2020s>get me a game with 300m budget for fall 2027, must triple the investment
>>750648130Canada is California but without all the good parts
>>750647559The thing is with MTFramework (RE engine is more a continuation of it) was that it fit the needs of Capcom at during the early 2000s perfectly and they explicitly phased it into common use among their production studios because they wanted to stop making new engines for each game they're making and just make one coheisve one. They even looked into Unreal3 before realizing that it was underperformant and had technical limitations for their needs.While the FOX Engine is a marvel of its own, it clearly existed solely for Kojima's MGS games and while that one soccer game also used it, it wasn't really meant as a Konami engine like MTFramework or RE Engine was for Capcom., especially considering Konami wanted to get into mobile gaming at the time.
>>750646512>Muh vidaya games are so expensive>It's always Western studios making some bullshit slopI've had many normies try and poke fun at me for liking weird Japanese shit or Nintendo crap, but times like this I'm grateful for being a 'tism ridden weeb who games predominately on PC and the Switch. Also>Schreier That retard lost any and all respect and credibility after the whole Blizzard debacle.
yeah but the development for E Day was started under the Biden economy so of course it was going to be absolutely fucked, it’s not Microsofts fault, they should have waited till the current American Golden Age we’re currently living in to start making it
TOTAL NA GAMEDEV OBLITERATION
>>750648968>it’s not Microsofts fault
>>750648987ACK!
It should be legally required for studios to explain their entire development process.
>>750646613>>750648053SEXO with IRL Rebecca Chambers>>750648815I forgot to add that MTFramework was also made to be modular and to have shit added onto it over time. There's entire articles on how Dragon's Dogma changed the engine from handling basic small stages to also handling open world shit and all the more complex event, physics and world/character state handling that entails and that wouldn't be as smoothly done had they done everything like the FOX ENGINE, which was designed with Kojima's and Kojima's vision alone.I kinda see why even Japanese game developers are moving away from having singular auteurs call the shots. It's good for publicity but it can stifle any sort of adaptability should things change out of necessity or convenience. The RE Engine (and now the MTFramework engine since it's better understoord now) wouldn't be as modable if it was only intended to do one thing some auteur wanted.
>>750646512That's not what AAA games cost. It's what rampant mismanagement looks like. Every single person in a supervisory role should be fired and blacklisted from the industry.
>>750646613She's cute. What mental diseases does she have?
>>750648987>let's use 25 kilos of explosives to totally obliterate it rather than simply moving the carcasswhat was going on in the US forest service in the 90s?
>>750649724It's by design, embezzlement is rampant on these projects.
>>750646512Spend over half a billion dollars just to get humiliated by games like Fart Collector Simulator, which was made on a budget of a gas station tuna sandwich and three peanuts.
>>750649842All of them
>>750649872People were allowed to have fun at work
>>750646512I think games should need a cool billion to makemore money = more betterLook at all the viral hits!please do this, AAAA devs
>>750649976BIG BLOCKBUSTER THE BEST GAME EVER POWERFUL GRAPHICS OPEN WORLD ALL KINDS OF GAMEPLAY MADE WITH 6000000 GORILLION DOLLARS WOMEN, BLACKS AND TRANNIES ARE WELCOME AND VALID>80 DOLLARS PLUS TAX AND MTX>500K salesSome niche autism simulator made by some solo nazi furfag>10 bucks>5 Million salesLove to see it!
worth it if it meant more XBOX hardware sold and new customers introduced into the Game Pass ecosystem, absolute idiots who have no understanding of finances should refrain from pure speculation on such topics
>>750646512yikes
>>750650259you jest yet we’re about to have the first true AAAAA (yes, Quintuple-A) game in GTA VI that has easily has over $1 billion invested in it and it’s going to be the biggest game of all time, maybe sit down and think before you type such things next time
the whole thing feels like one last wealth transfer and plundering before the wokified gaming house of cards collapses
>>750650441its because it is, the bunkers have been prepped, perishable goods are well stocked, nothing has been left to chanceall that’s left is to finally drop a tactial nuke on Iran and set in motion WW3, good luck anon
>>750648291500 devs on a california poverty salary for 6 years.
>>750646614Bloomberg is part of the globalist agenda, so he's in talks with all the industry bigwigs, and his plan for unionization only benefits Israel in the end.
>>750650596I was promised WW3 26 years ago.
>>750646939Isn't most money spend on marketing and publishing for most AAA games?
>>750647559>halfMaking an engine is relatively cheap compared to paying actors.
GAMERS DON'T HAVE TO BE YOUR AUDIENCE
>>750651160CUSTOMERS DON'T HAVE TO BE YOUR AUDIENCECUSTOMERS ARE OVERAnd so was any chance at profitability, lmao
ANYATHEY'RE SINKING STUDIOS WITH A GIANT BUDGET
>>750651160>>750651484PC wonGamergate wonGamers won
>>750651814fr this kills the Coalition, right? There's no way Asha doesn't flush the entire studio after killing those other studios.
>>750646512LOL Imagine spending 500 million dollars and not purging the mentally ill faggots and execs out of the company so the product might have a chance of making money or attracting an audience Why isn't Larry Fink bailing them out, has it gotten even too expensive for him lol
>>750651910Making new studios to continue franchises they previously had was a mistake to begin with, all the new Halos and Gears have been dogshit and they keep selling less and less. If they had used that money and time to create new franchises they would probably be in a better position now.Who am I kidding they would have been shit too.
I…voted for this?
>>750648261Who says these $500 million AAA slop games aren't using it?
>>750652607>Making new studios to continue franchises they previously had was a mistake to begin withThis isn't even the issue, the issue is that management at Microsoft is absolute fucking dogshit filled with nepobabies, jeets and trannies.It was already terrible by the time they bought RARE and Lionhead.
>>750650758Not if you're employing Californians
>>750646512Meanwhile Phantom Blade Zero's budget is $55 million. American game dev is simply untenable and you're going to see a lot of outsourcing to China and eastern Europe (Saber has already said all their games are outsourced).
>>750646512Ok, but why?
>>750650758No, most spending is on the hundreds of developers who are earning nearly if not six figure salaries for 5+ years while they work on a game
>>750653027>play the new Hellraiser game>full on frontal nudity, hyper gory, women getting her skin peeled off, other shit that no califag studio could even consider doing without having multiple nervous breakdowns>devs are Serbs and BosniansBased slavs not giving a fuck about western sensibilities and knowing what hyper BDSM ACTUALLY looks like.
>>750653027The thing is that salaries are way larger in America and the video game market is global, you don't get to sell it for more because the game is made in America.If you add to that that american devs are trannies who only care about injecting stuff in games that actively make them sell less, it's a fool's errand to make a game there.
>>750653230And even if your studio lucks out and overcomes these costs to make a big profit, you still get laid off when the executives decide you didn't meet expectations, then turn around and pay themselves big bonuses. That sounds like a meme, but it's exactly what happened to the BF6 devs.
>>750649872It literally tells you in the first paragraph. Sonetimes large animals die in inconvenient locations where moving the carcasses isn't feasible. Read, nigga.
>>750646512right right 500m is the bare minimum to make videogame in trump's america got it, there certainly wasn't any waste or fraud here and every cent went directly to producing a high quality product
>>750646512>westoid triple ayy gayming collapse when?already happening.
>>750646512Gaming collapse? never.Westoid Gaming collapse? Already started 3 or 4 years ago with no end in sight.
Claude, make a profitable gears of war game
My uncle once told me a story about when he worked in upper management at a Coca-Cola bottling plant. The plant needed to be renovated, and the executives hired a company, knowing full well that it would overcharge them, while secretly arranging kickbacks with the company behind headquarters’ back. We’re talking millions here. I can imagine that exactly the same thing is happening at Sony and Microsoft.
Absolutely disgusting, think of how many sea vessels that $500 million dollars could have added to Lord Gabens oceanic fleet, abhorrent behaviour
>>750646512I mean for 800 devs and 7 year dev time thats not that much...The problem is that instead of GTA6 gears of war edition, they made a 10 hour long game that looks like it cost 30 milion to make.
Maybe we don't need more AAA games.
>>750653230Yeah that's my point. Between paying an American $150k a year and a slav $50k, you should take the slav 10 times out of 10.
>>750654686it closer to 70-80k in shitholes like poland or czech republicrussia and ukraine are the last cheap slav countries, but one is blacklisted and other is so corrupt its a coin toss if you will get anything back and if you dont you cant even seek legal action, might as well outsource to india
Source:>dude trust me i have a bluesky account and i post on resetera>also anyone who doubts me will be banned?
>>750654356AAA games have been dumbed down blockbuster dogshit since 2009, this was a long time coming.
>>750655151>outsource to IndiaAnd how well did that work out for Ubisoft with the Prince of Persia game, anon?
>>750646512That's a lot of money to spend just to tell the player that women are men without a penis.
>>750656057we dont know since it never came outbut gta 6 is made by indians, and it will sell 30 milion copies in first 2 weeks
>>750656609No, we do know. It was so bad Ubi sent it to one of their Canadian studios to try to salvage it and they couldn't fix it, so it got written off as a total loss.>gta6 is made by indiansHuman slaves shitting out art assets isn't making the game. The design and serious engineering work are all done by Americans and Europeans.
>>750646512Wrong number he's a hack and game devs deserve failing industry, don't worry not the only corporat cesspool that'll implode
>>750656903>don't worry not the only corporat cesspool that'll implodeI know, it's great!I've been waiting for this moment for 16 years!
>>750650758That number didn't include marketing.
>>750656813>Indian studio fails>lets send it to their cousin Sukdeep in New India insteadTo quote Ubisoft themselves.
