Why did they make everything related to (You) and Saria so fucking sad?
I dunno but it was kino and it kickstarted my taste for bittersweet stuff in my fiction. Can't wait to see how the cutscenes present all this stuff in the remake.
>>750644305>voice actingruined
>>750644195Part of why she's my favourite in the game. I love her.
>>750644394I honestly do expect that I'll prefer text instead of voice acting but regardless I'm still excited to see how it turns out.
>>750644195Because OOT is about growing up and part of that is leaving parts of your childhood behind. Ditching Saria is meant to remind you of that once you leave the forest, you can’t fully go back
>>750645076>OOT is about growing upthen what about the ending? where you literally become a kid again?
>>750645375Signifies how when you're an adult you just want to go back to being a kid again
>>750645375That's because the reward of the story isn't to be a destined hero who got ripped out of his good life, but to get that life back, and Zelda giving you that is due to her empathizing with the pain she senses in Link.
>>750644195so... if Link went back in time, did Saria come back too? I mean, you can find them after they becomes sages if you go back in time during the game, so...
>>750645435true. I wanna go back...
>>750645554>did Saria come back too?yeah, she and the rest of them never became sages.Link still leaves to find Navi though, probably because she is the only other person besides him who knows what happened. Nintendo seriously needs to make a 3rd HoT game someday. I know they won't though.
>>750645375Except when you become a kid again, Navi leaves you. Things never go back to being the same, Link gets the chance to live a normal life so he’s not doing MJ shit but he can’t go back to the forest either.The adventure changed him and matured him past the Kokiri
>>750645684You think Aonuma can put out something on this level of kino?Well, honestly, I'd say TP was a worthy successor. If they make a third game and it's at least that good, I'd love it. But having all this soul seems almost impossible today.
>>750646023he'd be such a weird kid after he came backno way he locked down Malon, he'd probably creep her out
>>750646397He did though, thus why his great grandson is a farmer.
>>750645076*Because OOT is about becoming a man
>>750646469>great grandsonisn't TP like thousands of years later?
Man... OOT Link's story is really fucking sad. He didn't deserve any of that.
>>750646397You think he remembers what it’s like to be horny?
Hero's Purpose finale WHEN
>>750646616People don't understand that he didn't become a Stalfos but a ghost. Still sucks.
>>750646364Aonuma couldn't even remake MM correctly.
>>750646616Anyone has that comic you know the one.
>leaving kokiri for the first time with the hylian shieldInteresting
>>750647918kek true I didn't notice. how did he do it?
>>750646879One of those official guidebooks describes him in the Stalfos section.
>>750646616It's not really that sad. He likely had a pretty good life since he had descendants, even if there is some of that Vietnam veteran "never truly left the jungle" tragedy to him.
>>750648335You mean those non-canon books?
>>750648642If they are not canon, then OoT Link isn't the hero's shade in the first place since those books are literally the source for them being the same person.
>>750645435
>>750644195I mean, it was going to be sad either way when you think about it.Link would have eventually grown up whether he left the forest or not, and upon doing so, the Kokiri would have known he wasn't truly one of them. Worst come to worst he could have been exiled. Even if he wasn't, an adult living among children would certainly be strange and he'd inevitably feel out of place.
>>750648768Well that's the thing about non-canon sources: what they say is not canon.
>>750649652>>750648768Wrong. It is canon cus the shadow calls you descendant when he teaches you all his moves.
>>750649819And TP Link is one of OoT Link's descendants with Malon, sure
>>750650068Not necessarily Malon, but why couldn't he be OOT Link's descendant? Makes sense for the shadow to be him after what I just told you, doesn't it? Especially taking into account that TP is the one that goes after MM in Nintendo's timeline.
>>750649652>>750649819>>750650068It's completely retarded to post in a thread where the axiom is the tragedy of the hero's shade being OoT Link while not being bought into the canonicity of the books that are the source of the above axiom.You either take all of it or none of it.
>>750650247The timeline ITSELF is ALSO from the books. Are you stupid? Either the books are canon or this whole discussion is purely fanfiction and then it doesn't matter anyway.
OoT/MM Link is the goat
>>750650398I'll take none of it then, since it's all made up nonsense in a book that has nothing to do with the actual games
>>750650461>Are you stupidNo.>>750650461>Either the books are canonEven if they aren't, Aonuma has said that they take the timeline into account, so it is a thing.https://gameinformer.com/interview/2023/12/07/aonuma-and-fujibayashi-talk-tears-of-the-kingdoms-reception-and-their-approachHe even said he has an idea of where the flashbacks in TOTK would fall.
>>750644195Because it is a tragic love that is not meant to be, Saria is a spirit of the forest, her human form is merely an illusion, in the time of Wind Waker or Breath of the Wild she would be a stump with a leaf for a face, thus she is sexually incompatible with Link and will never have him.
>>750648335It's not even official.
>>750651001Kys secondary
The death of innocence
OOT in general is fairly melancholic. All the sages die before you can get to them. It was a bit of a trend at the time.
>>750650565true
>>750650565>>750651990No, that's ALTTP Link. He's the actual chad, he's protagonist in 4 games, so he he's got the highest win ratio of all Links. Also he bought the strongest Ganon.
>>750648335No it doesn't.
>>750654836>he's protagonist in 4 gamesOracles isn't him
>>750655014proof?
>>750656093The Zelda in those games didn't know Link prior to meeting him in whichever one you play 2nd.
>>750644586Zelda's voice actor sucked. Riju's was alright but Nintendo proved they can't cast a lead female
>>750656384Maybe it's not the same Zelda. Didn't they say in 2 that every princess is named Zelda to honour the one that fell asleep forever?
>>750656550you just reminded meis nip dub going to be available for OoTR?Zelda's shitty voice in botw/totk wasn't an issue for me because I played it with the nip dub where I couldn't tell if she was shit or not.
>>750656648why would there be two Zeldas who are roughly the same age at the same time?
>>750644195>You headin' out? If you're going to Hyrule Town Market, get me some Deku Nuts and a sixer of Coors. Later, fag.Not quite as sweet, is it.
>>750656672Yes. Previews confirmed you can change voice language anytime in the setting.
>>750657017hell yeah, you just made my day anon.
>>750656719why not? you have 3 Links that are the same age in Tri Force heroes
>>750646023I think this is also a contributing factor to the Hero's Shade in TP being a dead Hero of Time rather than a live, aged one. The events of TP could easily have been made to happen closer to the events of OoT, but weren't. It further creates a divide between him and TP Link, who is a bit more "complete" as a character as the game's themes lie elsewhere.
>>750656719I'M JUST SAYING IT'S POSSIBLE!
>>750649593It's actually weird that they didn't notice anything. Link aged like normal. He started as an infant and steadily matured as he aged. This is presumably not how the Kokiri life cycle works.
>Navi's VA is apparently the original>Link's VAs have changedWhy? All he does is yell and grunt. Just reuse OoT's voices.
>>750660082>Just reuse OoT's voicesRoyalties. Or other legal matters.
I think Nintendo loves torturing Link.>Link's Awakening forces you to destroy the world and your dream girl>Midna shattering the mirror immediately after getting her body back>Saria fucking dyingAnd Skyward Sword making Zelda a goddess.Give the man a break already.
>>750661630I got the impression he and Zelda ended up together in SS but its been like 15 years since I played it.
>>750661630No wonder he can only scream
>>750661698Yeah it's been a while since I played it. Even then it's still heavy for your childhood friend to carry that burden. Things won't be the same after that.
>>750661717Kekaroo!
>>750660082Link's grunts and shit in the original were actually done by the nip dub VA for that one edgyboi rival character in Yu Yu Hakusho.
>>750648335>>750648642>>750648768Have to do this shit again?Hyrule Historia is canon. The Legend of Zelda Encyclopedia is not. The latter is what calls him a stalfos and is wrong.
>>750644195>I hope someday they remake the game someday and expand on characters and story>they actually remake it>they added 0 fucking story or more dialog between Link and Saria as to why Saria likes himI fucking hate Nintendo and you're a fucking faggot if you buy that lazy fucking "remake"
>>750651001The illusion could therefore become an adult woman. That's the best sexual outcome possible.
>>750663629Why would you think remakes exist for any reason other than IP holders suckering more money out of retards using the same games again?
>>750663892Resident Evil 4 Remake actually expanded upon the original game
How would you feel about it if the Kokiri's child forms were like shown to be illusions at some point in the remake and they revert back to Koroks?
>>750651279Nah, you get to watch 1 of them die right in front of you, confirming what happened to all the others.
Link died alone
Original OOT's adult link sounded so raw. I'm gonna miss that voice
>>750663892Remakes used to have meaningful additions to the game, look at Zero Mission compared to Metroid 1, it's almost an entirely new game. Problem is almost all the modern Nintendo remakes are very lazy copy-pastes.
>>750665109imo various adult forms of Link's voices have never sounded quite right ever since OoT.
>>750665109Hiyama is definitely the best Link voice, no one more fitting than the King of Braves
>>750665384I never knew this but i totally hear it nowkino
>>750644195coming of age
>>750665109Adult OOT Link was a real chad
>>750644195>Doomed from the startKokiri are basically elves and live for centuries while Link is Hylian and has an average life span
>>750665556https://youtu.be/uIRBVvIplqM
>>750663629the manga actually did a pretty good job at making them feel more like they are best friends
>>750648457>had descendantsWith whom?
>>750666383it's never said but Malon is a good enough guess seeing as TP Link is a farm boy and knows Epona's Song.
>>750644305They will fuck it up.
>>750666804Sounds like the assumptions of a shipper
>>750665753Saria, who love him so much, would have seen him get old and die, and would have to live with that forever.
>>750644195>Young kid leaves the comfort of his childhood village and friends to embark on an adventure >Has to say goodbye to his best friend and possible love interest >Why is it sadIt's basic ass storytelling
>>750667823>It's basic ass storytellingThat doesn't exist anymore
>>750667582A BASED shipper
UN, DOS, TRES, TOCA TU OCARINA SARÍAUN, DOS, TRES, YO TE QUIERO TOCARUN, DOS, TRES, TOCA TU OCARINA SARÍA (AUNQUE ME VAYA AHORA, SARÍA)UN, DOS, TRES, YO TE QUIERO TOCAR (SARÍA, TE TENGO QUE BESAR)
Saria looks like my girlfriend i like women with short hair
>>750671785LOL OWNED
>>750671835Mad tranny
>>750644195Because you're leaving your childhood behind.
>>750666804This whole argument is invalid because link is a orphan
>>750645375>>750645435>>750645478>>750645554>>750645684Link is dead at the end of OoT. Zelda did not do it out of empathy, but because she bears Wisdom and knows the world is fucked without an uncorrupted sacred realm. She needs Link to tell her younger self that the Gorons and Zora have been attacked and their rulers will name 'the man from the desert' as their aggressor. This needs to happen without using the Temple of Time, which simply puts Link back in his child body at the point before he first took the sword. It's both too late at that point as Impa has fled with Zelda, and child Link is no match for Gannondorf who he just met for the first time as he chased them. The Triforce of Wisdom is how Zelda now understands only time-travel can fix the sacred realm, but it has to be done before Link's quest started. This is why Navi leaves, because she can't see him. Zelda is in the garden, spying on the court, and senses a presence behind her and turns. The ending is ambiguous, but we now know Gannondorf is accused, tried and executed as a traitor soon after. Majoras Mask is Link being gently notified that he's now in the afterlife. Adult Zelda's sadness is that she knows it must be done, and there is already a child Link living in that time and two can not co-exist.
>>750672728
what did you guys think of that fuckery in the TP manga with Ganon somehow getting his adult timeline memories and also somehow drawing adult timeline Zelda out of TP Zelda?
>>750666383ALL OF THEM
>>750672728How did Link die to begin with though? He's fine at the end of OOT.
>>750646469Does marrying a teacher mean your descendant is going to work for the school system? No. We have no idea what happened to Link after Majora's Mask other than in accordance to him lived fucking miserably while Twilight Princess Link is some orphan boy that doesn't even own the ranch he does work at. So where are you getting this delusional headcannon from?>>750646558Only a hundred years after OoT.
>you can switch back to Saria's ocarina in the remake
>>750673109I've yet to read it, but my immediate reaction to this is, whatever. The manga seems like it's pretty good, by all accounts, and time travel is an inherently sloppy plot device. Also Wind Waker is fucking gay.
>>750644195>I always believed that you would come. Because I know you... No... You don't have to explain it to me... Because it is destiny that you and I can't live in the same world.
>>750673876That's great, actually. I hope that does something because I love her
>>750673910well my bad for spoiling thatbut wind waker is awesome, you're wrong about that. all the 3D zelda games are awesome (including SS).
>>750673994She loved (You) so much... it hurts.
why two ocarinas
>>750674085>including SSOnly the switch version though. Also most 2D Zeldas are awesome, too.
>>750674179maybe they're just trying to quash that whole "Link dropped the fairy ocarina" shit people have memed about for years
The idea that Saria is a tree person in disguise pisses me off.
>>750644195strong emotions drive interest. nonwhites dont understand this concept, its too complicated for their small brains to comprehend.
>>750666383Ruto of course. Nobody can say no to the fish pussy.
>>750674540That can't be true
>>750674540>Fish pussyZora canonically lay eggs, and if they're fish it's likely they get externally fertilized. So no penetration involved.
Me and the GF
>>750675745>Zora canonically lay eggsAFTER getting fucked. They get fucked, then lay fertilized eggs.
>>750644195cuz their love could never be
>>750660082Does OG OoT Link's VA still voice Joe in KOF? Dunno why they couldn't get him..
>>750675745Nigga "fish" are more genetically diverse between each other than anything on land, so of them totally bang.Sharks have dicks by the way
>>750644195>Leaving Kokiri Forest>Hylian Shieldwat
>>750680109amazon
>>750680109>Not doing navi escape
>>750681254Link doesn't touch Ruto that way
>>750672728What about the Link whose descendant is TP Link then?
>>750644195When I was a kid this scene hit me like a fucking truck. I had never felt a sense of melancholy before. People say OoT is a story about lost innocence and being robbed of a childhood, and to me this scene more than any other epitomizes those themes. I'm extremely hyped for the remake but I can already tell the voice acting has butchered the tone. I pray the jap vo has a more appropriate delivery
>>750644195Because it's a coming of age story.
>>750681839OOT is about becoming a big boy so that you can slay evil brown men. It’s not King Lear. Still the best game ever made though.
>Saria... Will always be your wife...what did they mean by that?
>>750675745I mean that could still be pretty hot. Imagine Ruto popping a squat and squeezing out a bunch of eggs and then jerking you off until you cum all over them.
>>750682021nta but why are you fags incapable of being passionate or articulating fucking anything? Whenever I look here it's always some fag being dismissive towards another for describing a feeling like you're afraid of it and need to maintain an aloof demeanor or you'll vaporize.
>>750682247>Zelda is your...What the fuck did Uncle mean by that? Faggot could've uttered that final word before dying.
>>7506833574chan must be like 75% underage now
>>750673516Link dies because he has no body in the past timeline he has been sent to.Navi leaves the moment they arrive back in the Temple of Time. He goes to the palace garden and finds Zelda as before. The first fact indicates he doesn't have a body because Navi can't see him, and from her point of view the first thing she will do is establish exactly when she has arrived to, and once she does so she will return to the forest and find the Deku Tree still alive and Link from this pre-quest timeline.The second establishes that this timeline is before Zelda and Impa flee the castle, but Link was able to leave the Temple of Time, meaning the Door of Time doesn't require the spirit stones and Ocarina of Time to open from the inside, or it doesn't impede Link's ghost anyway.>>750681567There is already a child Link living in this timeline with the Kokiri, another reason why his death was necessary for Zelda because he can't co-exist with another version of himself. The Master Sword method of time-travel means this type of paradox is avoided because Link never physically goes backwards and forwards: it's his soul jumping between his bodies in the past and future. Zelda knows the child Link's body must fall into sleep in the past and be kept safely in the Temple of Light for seven years, or else there's an unresolvable paradox which stops events from happening in her timeline. Link jumps into his adult body when he pulls the sword, then returns to the moment before that when he puts it back, minimising the risk of a deadly paradox.>Unquested child Link lives to have descendents>Quested child Link sleeps for seven years>His adult Link awakens to finish the quest, but dies when his spirit is sent back in time by Zelda, and the body becomes a stalfos
>>750683446But... the ellipsis...
>>750644394I don't necessarily mind voice acting but I hate that they made Saria's voice so stereotypically anime
>>750644195Because it's a lesson about growing up and that once a boy becomes a man, he should desire a motherly figure with the body and will to bear many children - instead of being one.
>>750684634>he should desire a motherly figure with the body and will to bear many children - instead of being one.why not both?
>>750681839Sara also knew Link 'was different from me and my friends'. This is because Link is not a real Kokiri but a Hylian, given to the forest as a baby to save his life during the civil war a decade earlier. This is why he never got his own fairy companion until he absolutely had to be given one for his quest. The Kokiri can not leave the forest at all; he's the only one who can do the quest. Though Sara suspects it, Link will not find out he's Hylian for seven years when the successor to the Deku Tree explains to him why he aged and his childhood friends are forever children and won't die of old age like he one day will. Like Tolkien mourning the disappearance of his idyllic village because he knew it would happen decades before it did, Sara seeing Link cross a threshold that only a mortal can is her being haunted by a future that will never come.>A future where she spends the entire span of the world's history with her best friend
>>750684634gayest thing i've read in a while
>>750684992>SaraI meant Saria!
Nice Saria-free Saria thread, fagets
>>750644305After a few trailers I've seen, it's going to be shit. It's so cartoony and silly it completely fails to capture the mood and atmosphere of the original.
>>750685126see>>750685126
>>750685706Thot Police
>>750647843that's because mm is koizumi's baby, not aonuma's all aonuma knows how to do is remake oot but worse
>>750683379Pretty funny how Link actually keeps the Fairy Ocarina in the new game.
>>750686285>new gamenobody gives a fuck bout the remake
>>750686305Keep telling yourself that, lil guy
>>750686305Literally everybody does, we need it to beat GTA 6Well, we need anything to beat GTA 6, but you get the idea
>>750684328This is so fucking retarded>>750681839The japanese for botw was pretty shit too, so you shouldn't get your hopes up
>>750684328You already contradicted yourself, because there would be no body to become a Stalfos. Like you said, it is only his soul traveling through time, not his body, so there would never be a second body to become a stalfos. That body either lives and has descendants, or it doesn't.
>>750684328Schizophrenic. But I like it; it’s plausible. This would also help explain Link’s absence during the credits and some unresolved mysteries of the sequel.
>>750686398Extremely unlikely, unfortunately.
>>750684328You make it sound as though his soul is being scattered or divided through time. If he becomes a stalfos, are you implying the ghost that returns to the past is a dying dream of sorts? Or something that happens before he becomes a stalfos?
>>750686398I'm too white to play GTA, sadly. There's a lot of perks to it though
Link made it back from Termina but there were 'problems' with aging, the flow of time and so on and so forth. Zelda adopted Link but their childhood romance could not be quelled...
>>750644195Because the game is about how growing up and leaving behind your childhood is sad in a way. Does reminiscing on being a kid make you sad?
>>750687497>Does reminiscing on being a kid make you sad?Makes me relieved that time is over, if anything.
>>750686305>you now realize they haven't advertised the game coming with master quest which should be a huge sales incentive>master quest is coming but they're going to sell it as DLC post-launch>shills and console warriors are going to defend what was included on the 3DS version for no extra charge costing money now by saying "At least the DLC was only $20! How generous it wasn't $30!"Screencap this post, I know I'll be right
