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>Made the absolutely understandable move of stopping content production for a game nearly 10 years old
>Amassed the gaming equivalent of Disney adults that hate anything you make that isn't Destiny
>All while Sony is breathing down your neck

I think I'd actually hate Destiny even more than I do now if I worked at Bungie. Unfortunately, Marathon has to be associated with this retarded fanbase.
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>end Destiny with Final Shape
>keep it going but lower the budget
>also make a bunch of unwanted changes simultaneously that nobody asked for
Their fault desu. Should've called it hard quits on major updates back in 2024 but still check the balance every 6 months or so while everyone shifted to Marathon.
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>people want more of what they like
ummmm, bros??? how can this be i dont understand????
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>>750621563

They should've. Renegades looks corny as shit with the Star Wars inspiration.
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>>750621695
Not thinking it's acceptable for devs to stop working on a now unprofitable game after nearly 10 years, and being outright mad at them for doing so, because of "memories" and being a "third space" is absolute manchild behavior.
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>>750621439
What’s even worse is that Edge of Fate was a good expansion gameplay-wise, bringing in elements from Metroid Prime 2, and Renegades new modes.

But have a guess how the fan base reacted to it all.
>If it isn’t a patrol from Shadowkeep again, we don’t want it in the game
>why is there a weapon level reset

All of that from the two expansions is exactly how Destiny 3 would have started, which is what everyone supposedly clamours for.

I actually commended Bungie for having the guts in this industry to end a 10 year long game (Fortnite, FFXIV), but here we are.
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>>750621710
Sad part was the elements of Renegades that had basis in Destiny like dredgens back in spotlight, corruption in the foundries, red legion 2.0 from a hyperbolic time chamber were good but they had to wear awful SW masks. So dredgen antagonist becomes awful Kylo Ren ripoff, red legion 2.0 becomes the empire, etc.
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i mean spending the time to fully switch over from your current active cash cow with a stockholm syndrome audience to one of the least popular genres in all of gaming with a reboot of a franchise that hasnt been relevant in two decades was kind of a slap to the face, desu

both destiny and marathon deserve to fail and bungie deserves to go under, sony deserves the billion dollar loss that is losing both of those games and that studio
all of it deserves to die out because it was so fucking mismanaged and mishandled from start to end, even all the way back in the development of original destiny 1, cutting tons of the story and having a full rewrite one year out from release
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>>750621439
You made two threads about this shit already Bungie, get back on the Destiny mines or you'll get gaped by Sony, simple as. Nothing you do will make people want to play Maratroon.
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>>750621439
They should've made Myth 4 instead
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>>750622062
EoF was tedious. I respect the attempt but it was endless turn into ball, grab teleport cannon, drop cannon to create a bridge, turn back into ball to kill mobs only killable by ball, pick up cannon again and activate teleporter, and then do all that two more times to open a door to a boss that requires you to do all of that yet again for each damagephase. It just doesn't work for a game like Destiny where all of these are pick-ups and not innate abilities.
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>PLEASE BUY OUR GAME WE NEED MORE SALES FOR OUR UNPROFITABLE GAME!!!
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>>750621563
It's also their fault for making Marathon into a weird mix of extraction, hero shooter, and battle royal.
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>>750621439
>hate anything you make that isn't Destiny
kek this >>750622445
supply and demand you fucking tranny
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>>750622062
I feel like this is the first positive take on EoF I've ever seen with the elements from Metroid Prime 2, like that's clearly what they were going for but I felt they missed pretty miserably. I do hate the vocal Destiny community though, genuinely miserable cunts through and through. It's never enough to just not like something and move on, they need to scream at everyone and everything.
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>>750622563
Yeah original idea sounded way more their style. Connected world like on huge destiny patrol zone but you'd mostly pve and party up with people and if you did pvp you'd get a bounty or others would be warned you're a PKer so the system self-regulated. Custom characters and kits, no hero shooter shit.
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>yeah dude just stop making content for the only game that kept your lights on

literally good
this is the one time consumers not only won but they also bent the knee and decided to undue content vaulting which was a stupid fucking idea.
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>>750621439
>Unfortunately, Marathon has to be associated with this retarded fanbase.
I like how you said 'Marathon' and not 'Marathon fanbase' since there isn't a Maraton (2026) fanbase.
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>>750624640
Nah, there is a fanbase. Unless you are implying that all of Marathon's fanart is commissioned by Bungie themselves, in which case, I'd call you a retard.
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>>750622346
And what’s the rest of the previous expansions if that was tedious
What, jump in the Scorpion in Witch Queen?

Bungie have always had a problem with level design. It carried through from Halo to Destiny, and it was in Marathon and EoF where they actually started to rectify it.

Even Final Shape is just moving between zones on foot, as pretty as some of it is.
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>>750624770
>all
may we see it?
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>>750622445
Bro D2’s normie community had a fucking tantrum and the major YouTubers got together on discord to shit all over Marathon.
They were shitting on Destiny 2 for how many fucking years after Lightfall and Beyond Light.

I legitimately have never seen such a poorer community before in gaming. I can’t even point out who could be worse. Maybe the Gen split in the Pokémon fandom.
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>>750625142
Sure, look it up.
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>>750623571
EoF is like Prime 2 with Control’s story and a dumb hub element.
I think people really got attached to the Halo campaign model, where you go through 8 levels and they’re all linear awkward plat forming corridors and then and then an enemy spawn point hits.

So we got nothing in the end. They didn’t expand on D2 properly, now we’re going back to the vaulted content as a PR satiation, Marathon didn’t do its original intent to not step on D2’s toes and then D3 didn’t even start up.

I dunno, you can rant endlessly about all this stuff. It is interesting though.
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>>750625080
Dull, mostly. Red War, Forsaken, TWQ and TFS are the "good" campaigns. They still have flaws here and there, but absolutely more effort than the rest. Like I said, EoF had good ideas but they simply don't mesh with Destiny, especially on low budget. If all three exploration quirks in EoF could be used at any time rather than hold to interact, it would've been 20x better off that alone.
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I’ll never get over the Destiny community trashing the matter spark ball.

That cemented it for me what kind of person I had been playing among all these years.
I thought that would turn into different sort of sparrow variants and missions in story but no, everyone laughed it off.

I honestly believe that player base would complain if you took out the spaceship loading screen for an actual ship vehicle control.
If you have them a space ship and said drive to the planet, they’d be upset.
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As much as I don’t like how the streamers treated poor marathon, what Bungie honestly expect? If all these streamers had moved on to marathon and started glazing it, they would never have gotten Destiny 2 back in any capacity.
Management at Bungie are a mess, and they’re lucky they have all the people working there that they do.
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>>750625170
>the major YouTubers got together on discord to shit all over Marathon.
lmao people played the game and got bored with it. even shills like shroud who praised the game couldnt be assed to play marathon after 2 weeks because the game is that shit. it failed because it is a bad game not because the ebil utubers were mean to the game.
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>>750621841
>on a now unprofitable
Only to continue working on a game that will never be profitable :^)
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>>750625546
It's a really good place to work, allegedly. Won't really look good on your resume now but cozy.
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>>750622062
Posts like these genuinely make me wonder if they're made by actual seething Bungie employees.
EoF was not only atrocious on its own, but it completely changed progression for the absolute worst hoping to hide the lack of content with a hamster wheel levelling design. Then they made all previous loot and content irrelevant by introducing new item types that old content simply didn't drop. Renegades suffered because of this and these issues weren't fixed until MoT when they also announced EoS. Bungie shot themselves in the knee then blamed the players for it.
>>750625170
There are much worse communities than D2's, Bungie, I've seen them. People hated Marathon because it was genuinely shit and the players were able to see the reason EoF and Renegades were so shit was because it was siphoning all resources away from D2, and Bungie is so incompetent it couldn't handle both games even with 800+ employees, they're so lethargic despite having so much people (400 atm) working ON A SINGLE FUCKING GAME.
You get what you fucking deserve, do what makes you money or die.
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>>750625614
Shit up these people are retards.
They didn’t let anyone improve destiny 2
They got upset at marathon and cried for weeks after d2 cancelled
I’m surpirsrd they didn’t boycott Rising

Destiny’s fan base are like the WoW fan base. No articulation, no knowledge on game design, illiterate, waiting on tuber to solve the ARG.
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>>750625737
I love marathon, but what were 400 people even doing on the game? What were all the d2 people who got moved doing for that year? What happened to the Payback people?

Who knows what is happening at that place. I get upset thinking on it sometimes.
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>>750625730
It's basically an adult daycare, ripe with nepotism and incompetence as you'd expect. Sony got scammed hard.
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>>750621439
Marathon simply hasn't been able to get enough players to remain profitable, and Sony is unwilling to let them start a new project that wouldn't bring in a dime for another decade.
Something at Bungie needs to make money, and it needs to make it now. Either they're gonna milk the fuck out of Destiny, or they're out. Sony ain't running a charity here.
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can you show me marathon's sexist gun.
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>>750625748
>They didn’t let anyone improve destiny 2
I play destiny to shoot my gun, throw magic bombs and kill aliens. If i wanted to roll around in a ball, I'd play Metroid. If I wanted to solve puzzles with teleportation, I'd play Portal. There's no need to turn Destiny into another game.
It's also why I think Renegades is way better than EoF, it gives you stuff you can use in all the rest of the game and its main mode builds on the things Destiny is strong for (even if the story for both is pretty cringe).
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>>750625748
>They didn’t let anyone improve destiny 2
As if bungo has ever given a single shit about what their playerbase wants, see Marathon as an example of garbage nobody askes for but they made anyway and then tried to strongarm everyone into playing.
>lmao lets just delete content players paid real money for because we cant be arsed with making sure it works with newer patches.
The only people telling them what to do are the greedy corpo voices in their heads going "if you remove content then you can sell the same content again for even more money", dont pretend as if some youtuber or forum user getting mad is whats driving their decision making.
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>>750621439
>The creators of Halo were raped and gaped by a literally-fucking-who Cucknadian company that managed to make the most timewasting thirdperson shooter possible
Embarassing.
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