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>>750621024
Even if they insult their audience, there is no reason for game dev to be reaching the costs that they do. If they want returns of any kind, they need to shrink these budgets
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it's actually amazing. you can make successful woke games if you have talents like Larian, but 9/10 these retards have none
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How many dudebros refunded the game instantly when the gay shit started in the story?
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I played gears 4 and 5 and couldn't make it 15 minutes into this piece of shit
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>need over 7 million sales to break even
>Not a single game in the franchise has sold this amount of copies
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will this finally be the wake up call for microsoft and xbox?
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>>750620965
I feel like china would execute someone over this.
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>>750621152
larian made all but one of the companions white, and none of them go into cringe veilguard woke territory

BG3 is an insidious woke game but larian played their cards right
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>>750621390
Probably because, at the very least, the player got the choice to go in or not at all
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>>750621462
yeah, BG3 gives you options to engage with that shit or not (to a certain degree anyway)
even wrath of the righteous forces more woke shit on you, you can never tell irabeth or her gay elf partner to fuck off
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>>750621390
never played it but i get the impression BG3 is built to appeal to women who don't care about such things
women aren't going to touch gears of war
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>>750621024
You'd think at the very least, they'd hugely scale back the money they pour into these fucking stillbirth pieces of shit.
I don't play consoles so I don't know what good games they have. seems like every single game that comes to xbox or playstation is a fucking expensive piece of shit.
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>>750620965
why would i pay 70 for this when i can pay 15 to play it on gamespass?
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>>750621596
Streamer women will because flavour of the month or some shit
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>>750621596
BG3 definitely feels like a woman game a lot of the time yeah
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>>750620965
uhh they all play in gamepass chud, sales is irrelevant
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>>750621596
every women I know who plays games, wants to play as a pretty/sexy/cute character. none of them liked lesbian characters. unless they were hot.
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>>750621681
they play them for the gay ships
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>>750620965
I blame the suits no longer respecting the genre. Who do you think is insisting that every videogame be made into a pseudo-movie with 100 hours of extremely expensive cutscenes in the place of actual game design? Execs and investors that have never played a videogame in their life
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Was Asha foolish to not release it on PS5?
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>what if we spent $500m on one game from a series that hasn't been relevant since the 360 and release the game as an exclusive on a console with about 83 own
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>>750621713
>extremely expensive cutscenes
And hiring actors that cost a gorillion dollars each
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>>750621697
How common is that? I don't doubt it, I've heard about that. But I've never heard any women talk like that. Just the pool I spoke to I gues
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>>750621645
They're an overwhelming minority. The people making the decisions to make games gay and ugly are doing it on the assumption that it's going to attract the average woman audience, when the truth is that 99.999% of average women wouldn't touch video games that aren't match-three facebook shit or FOTM Korean fujobait gacha shit with a ten foot pole.
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Just move all game development to Eastern Europe and east Asia, those budgets are just insane.
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>>750621681
Women only want to make two kinds of characters:
>themselves, but cuter/hotter
>(where the option exists) a cute boy so they can make him have sex with other cute boys
It's why all of these things like that retarded Dove commercial where they take the literal downie albino and the fat hambeast and make "video game characters" for them don't actually translate into sales, because the only people who want that shit are a loud dysgenic minority who have been shown time and time again to not have any interest whatsoever in actually buying video games in the first palce.
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I'm an Xbro and even I find this funny.
>>750621724
doubt it would have done much better.
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Why the fuck would they release a game that cost $500m to make for free on Day 1 on Game Pass? This is not sustainable
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imagine being an accountant at sony or microsoft. laugh for 4 hours, lunch, laugh for 4 hours, go home.
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>>750620965
Nobody gives a flying fuck about Queers of Bore in 2026.
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>>750622018
neither are exclusives. aaa itself is unsustainable.
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>>750621359
The consultancy firms that a quarter of the budget went into assured us that this is the correct way forward
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>>750621868
>match-three facebook shit
I would argue this is more boomers these days and that women are more likely to either hop on current trends or just play the Sims or Stardew Valley, but generally I don't disagree
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>>750621681
>every women I know who plays games, wants to play as a pretty/sexy/cute character.
Women want 1 thing and it's disgusting.
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>Sony's Jim Ryan:
>“We have had this conversation before – we are not going to go down the road of putting new release titles into a subscription model. These games cost many millions of dollars, well over $100 million, to develop. We just don't see that as sustainable.”

Apologize to Jim Ryan
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>>750621697
Those are fujowhores, anon.
As much as they try to convince you otherwise, they are only a vocal minority and most women hate fags as much as any normal person does, they just won't say it publicly.
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>>750620965
>developer consists of maybe 12-20 guys in a rented office on a shoestring budget
>produce a good to decent game every year or so and turn over a decent profit
>developer consists of 400-1000 people on a budget of hundreds of millions
>take the best part of a decade to release a single game (that sucks) and end up massively in the red
I don't know who convinced publishers that more people + more money = more profit. I'd wager that most of the people employed at modern AAA devs don't actually do any work at all.
Case in point, Bioware devs insisting that they totally had ME5 ready to drop when all they're able to show after six years and hundreds of millions of dollars is a single half-assed trailer that's full of recycled assets and obvious AI. You can't tell me that shit wasn't slapped together last minute as a way of trying to desperately convince the suits that they'd been working all this time.
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whenever i think about gears of war now i just think of this unbelievably cringe trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjFaiJwM2EQ

billie eilish in gears, jfc
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>>750622154
>Apologize to Jim Ryan
I'll chop my dick off before I acknowledge that man as human, let alone apologize
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>>750621390
It was a Hasbro license, I feel like the game got off very easy compared to the usual WotC shit
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>>750622201
yeah, the new divinity game will tell us how much of it was larian vs the IP holders

like rogue trader was monumentally less woke than wotr
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>>750621724
>release the sixth game in a series on a new console without the previous titles to support it
>nobody buys it because they have no frame of reference for it and there's no existing fanbase
It would have been a drop in the bucket in terms of sales.
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>>750620965
Should've added more lesbanians to the game.
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>>750620965
that's 400.000 too much
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>>750622113
>the Sims or Stardew Valley
That's also kind of my point anon, in the sense that sure, women "play video games", but they only ever play a very, very limited selection and they treat them as a gimmick, not a hobby to invest any money in.
If they can play Sims or whatever on their laptop, that's all they're going to do. They're not going to see Gears of War: Ugly Bitch Edition and go
>wow this is the game for me, I'm off to gamestop to spend several hundred dollars on an xbox and a copy of this brand new vidya
because it's a game about shooting people and not a game about playing house.
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>>750622341
I'm drunk, bear with me. Gears sucks anyways, poor man's 40k
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>>750622196
>all around me are familiar faces
>worn out faces, women's faces
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>>750620965
i didn't buy it because this is by far the laziest iteration of versus the series has ever seen, also the gnasher is still wildly inconsistent, should've just remastered the trilogy and called it a day instead of this shit
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>>750620965
another woke trash game killing a studio
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>>750622395
You're all good, anon. Personally I liked Gears up until 3, 4 is boring as shit because you spend 90% of the time fighting lame robots and 5 is... better than 4, okay at best, but still not nearly as good as the 360 games.
I do think it's hilarious that they basically wrote themselves into a corner with 5's ending where they let you choose whether Marcus Jr. or the black guy dies and now they're probably stuck making prequels because they don't want to write Gears 6 with two possible paths.
who am I kidding they'd just pretend the black guy survived
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>>750622448
>should've just remastered the trilogy and called it a day instead of this shit
It is kind of strange that they just shat out the Gears 1 remaster and then never bothered even porting 2 & 3 to PC or anything. I suppose they're all backwards compatible on the xbox so they probably don't care.
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>>750621024
>Why do western game devs keep repeating the same mistakes? Just make a fun game without insulting your audience.

Internal social dynamics + social media.
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>>750622516
>they let you choose whether Marcus Jr. or the black guy dies and now they're probably stuck making prequels because they don't want to write Gears 6 with two possible paths.
Make those two background characters that don't do anything beyond have one or two moments. Problem solved.
A different mediocre game now under the Microsoft umbrella, Wolfenstein new colossus, did that already.
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>>750622196
is gears 5 the screaming woman scene?

>>750620965
Notice how ALL the women in these are extremely unfeminine, butch, gender ambiguous, and downright look and act like men? And the color schemes are dark, dull greys, etc And the emotions are all negative?

They want to do ANYTHING to get away from a conventionally pretty, well dressed feminine woman smiling and being happy. A happy mother holding a baby is like kryptonite to them.
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>>750622831
yep its that trailer
all the cringe shit in gaming over the past few years and that's the one that's stuck in my mind the most i hink
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>>750622831
>>750622870
They roar like wounded lions or bears, to show the pain and suffering they go through. To show how strong and powerful they are.
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Wouldn't be surprised if the following happened
>Gears 5 doesn't do as well as they want, they pivot to the prequel
>Prequel is a money sink but the studio claims it'll all be worth it because the assets can be used to make a cheap prequel trilogy now that they're made for the first game

What will happen following this
>Gears 6 flops even though it's a Marcus and Dom game
>Will end up going the route of Halo Infinite where the money sink was planned to support multiple years of content and sequels, but the reality is it made the first game nearly impossible to make a profit and will cause the death of the studio.
>6 years from now another Xbox studio will be announced to making a Gears reboot, probably Activision
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>>750622045
xbox
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>>750621024
>Why do western game devs keep repeating the same mistakes?
All of these games have been in development for years. They all happily accepted DEI-money thinking it was a win-win situation. They made a lot of money simply by including woke shit and they boldly thought that the "modern gaming audience" would buy it. I'm sure there are still a few more of these games being developed and they know the game is shit, but woke DEI shit is written into the contract so they can't back out now.
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>we lost our jobs to own the chuds!
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>>750622986
What products does she even manage
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>>750623034
I believe these women's studio manages social media just like Ubisoft does.
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>>750622979
>brothers died in war
>please help the ones who killed them
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No other industry do you shove in shit the customer didn't want and hate them for not accepting it.

>Yeah, can I just get some ketchup?
>Sure thing! Here's our BBQ flavored ketchup
>N..no I just want plain ketchup nothing else
>We listened to your feedback. Here's our new mustard ketchup
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>>750622901
2 decades and game developers failed to realize that zooming that close to a human face is a bad fucking idea. Fidelity was never the crux of the issue.
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>>750621024
>western
More like American
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>>750622979
The funny thing is, this isn't even the first time they've tried to do a prequel for Gears and it's turned out poorly.
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>>750623158
All media has been doing this, anon. Mainstream music and Hollywood music have been terrible for nearly two decades now.
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>>750623206
I'm kinda lopping all entertainment together when I say industry.
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>>750623158
>from the makers of ketchup, here's human feces-flavored ketchup
>what, you don't like it? fuck you, you entitled little shit, you're not even the audience
>here's our new AIDS-flavored ketchup- wait why is nobody buying this
>this is all the audience's fault
>>750623178
man, I should play dead rising again
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>>750621596
The problem with BG3 is that its hard to show what's really good about its gameplay(Larian did manage to create a really fun, freeform formula already in DOS1 and it's just iterated on, but explaining it is boring) so people just show you dialogues which appeal to theatre kids and women.
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>>750623185
It wasn't that bad
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>>750623345
Compared to what came afterwards, sure, but I seem to recall it being considered a fair bit worse than the games that came before it.
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>>750620965
Honestly, I don't mourn Gears, and the more I think about it, the less sorry I feel for Gears fans. It was always boring and was always a step on the road of taking gaming away from male nerds. For example, instead of having gorgeous, fantastical female character designs, they're basically boring Hollywood female characters that nobody would be talking about if the newer characters didn't look even worse by comparison. Diversity checkboxes, 00s edition. And the gameplay was always hyper-casual cinematic slop. I kinda feel like Gears fans got what they deserved for latching on to this.

At least with Halo, which was also a major step on this road, you can say that it was the first FPS to get vehicles right, the levels are pretty memorable with gorgeous aesthetics, and the writing is pretty good. I actually don't even see Gears fans talking about their favorite levels from early Gears.
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>>750621126
Poojeeta already addressed this but games are long ass project so those gazillion bajillion budget could very weell happened during Sarah or Phill tenure. It remains to be seen what kind of effect pojeeta's move has over both short and long tern
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>>750623463
Only thing I remember about judgment was the slightly different controls and a shitty score system because 'lmao we made painkiller and bulletstorm once upon a time'.
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>>750622831
And remember, we get so used to these bull dykes, that we forget that another world used to exist. Smiling feminine women. yes, they're real. In fact, if you go out into the real world you'll encounter FAR more feminine women than you will androgynous she-beast dykes. Yet, it's media with smiling happy content women that is denigraded as sexist.
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>>750623592
Yeah you always have to understand that there's a lag between any sort of change and the effect on games when they're being made for 4+ years. If a new exec has a game project that's 3/4th done then even if the commercial viability is meagre it makes sense to just let it run than to have all that work do nothing.
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>>750623681
>this is the feminist's greatest fear
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>>750621713
This may come as a shock to you, but most execs don’t really give a shit about the product only insofar as it remains profitable. The issue comes in when they listen to “professionals” who claim to know what the customer base wants and they don’t bother to investigate those claims.
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>>750623681
>>750623737
Game?
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>>750620965
Less than a million copies sold on what used to be Xbox's flagship franchise right behind Halo. Holy fuck, this is grim.
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>>750623185
Funny how "they changed the controls a little and only let me hold 2 guns instead of 3" was enough to have a game be poorly received back then. Now the devs can just wipe their ass with the franchise and people will say its GOTY.
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>>750620965
damn it's that bad?
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>>750620965
how does xbox stays in market nowadays?
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>>750621724
PS fanboys spent decades shitting on Halo, then when Xbox games started coming to PS5 they begged for Halo, then gloated when they got Halo, then proceeded to not buy Halo. Even though it's the worst version of CE you'd think they might back their claims by buying it, but they didn't. Gears would maybe sell a couple hundred thousand more but it would still drop off the charts like a rock within 2-3 months.
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>>750621024
They're forsaking all profitability in order to achieve a long term cultural victory where there's no escape from being lectured by their self-inserts.
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ANYA, WE NEED ANOTHER WAY.
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>>750620965
>selling less than any Nintendo Switch 2 exclusive
>for 6-8x the budget

LOL
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$500 million is more than RDR2 cost what the hell did they spend the money on
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>>750621383
And rightfully so.
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>>750622979
Brother, if the numbers released thus far are true, there may not even BE a Gear 6. E-Day sold roughly 400k copies, which isn't the kind of numbers you want for a game that cost MINIMUM 500 million before including marketing costs. That's the kind of titanic level failure that if I were at Microsoft, I would want heads rolling at Coalition for such a disaster.
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>>750621309
>>need over 7 million sales to break even
>>Not a single game in the franchise has sold this amount of copies
>lets hire a woman to write this game that we are trying to sell to men to shoot ourselves further in the foot
just kek all around
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>>750624758
>what the hell did they spend the money on
god knows
like all aaa shit the credits for this game are half an hour long
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>>750621024
It's funny, I didn't even mind the chink and the nigger in Space Marine 2 even though they were obvious mandated minority characters simply because they didn't make them annoying holier than though faggots
It's really just THAT easy
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>>750624758
HRT and gender affirming surgery for the team
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>>750621152
>BG3 is woke
> You can kill every gay niggerfaggot and foid in the game
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>>750622831
I don't actually mind gorilla women in Gears. It's actually the one franchise where I'd be perfectly fine with them. The issue is that that cunt hogs all the spotlight in a prequel for no fucking reason.
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Woke Coalition gonna be gutted like Halo Studios/343, cant wait for it
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>>750625065
both of them were annoying faggots constantly going full-retard for drama
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>>750625065
It also helps that they eventually defer to Titus who has centuries of wisdom, knowledge, and battlefield experience that they as Primaris Marines don't have. Fuckers are basically toddlers compared to the older Marines even in the Chapter.
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>>750625167
The nog gets his nigger moment and the chink acts like a dramatic retard once but that's it, it's basically all water under the bridge afterwards. Which is still kinda meh storytelling but whatever.
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>>750622341
>>750622113
just to add one thing to your point
there is now a whole genre of games catering for women, mostly. The so called comfy games. Stardew Valley was the beginning, Animal Crossing and Poketopia the meat of it(Hello Kitty island adventure anyone?). And there are tons of indie devs noticing and planning accordingly
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>>750620965
Ok so the game cost 500 000 which is stupid but realistically most of that went to overpaying useless activists and consultants but how do you burn almost as much on marketing? Youd think the whole purpose of using a known franchise is that its KNOWN.
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>>750625257
I would've figured Harvest Moon and Cooking Mama were games made for women long before Stardew Valley came around. Shit, there was even that Nintendogs game that was just playing around with a virtual pet.
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>>750625364
It hasn't really been as big of a thing ever since the 360 days, it's understandable that they'd need people to become aware of the franchise once again which is why a prequel isn't a bad idea at all. Why they made everything as retarded as it currently is is a much better question.
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>>750625420
you are correct, as in harvest moon was the first and stardew valley was "inspired" by it. But Stardew was clearly when the genre got popular for women
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>500 million
>excluding marketing
how much is vidya marketing these days? 2 or 3 hundred more million?
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I could see them continuing to try to make Halo work but I don’t think we’ll get another Gears which sucks because I always liked it. I feel like Xbox is just going to consider games like elder scrolls, fallout, etc their games and maybe possibly take a chance making them exclusive because I just don’t see them trying to make new exclusive IP they’ve shown no willingness to do this since like early Xbox One days
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>>750624038
even if it was a return to form in a non marketing shitpost way (as in, actually on par with the og trilogy) it would've probably flopped.
gears is a spent franchise, we've had 7 games + spinoffs and remakes.
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>>750620965
KEK FINAL FANTASY RESONANCE SOLD MORE
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IT NEEDS MORE PRIDE FLAGS
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>>750620965
>$500 million in production costs
>All the faggot sites that report it cite Kotaku as the source
>Kotaku cite only themselves as the source
Why should I believe it?
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this whole woke era got me thinking the other day
>ask google what percentage of the world is gay
>about 3-4%
>suits of the western entertainment industry were bribed to cater to gay people
>all in on those 3-4% of the population
>but of those maybe only 10-20% are gamers
>and MAYBE 50% of those gamers are interested in your franchise
>make your product's whole identity gay to cater to a handful of people
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>>750625115
Everyone has a different definition of woke
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>>750621681
remember this: girls absolutely loved the original tomb raider games and completely ignored nu lara games.
why? because unironically nu lara is tailor made to appeal only to men.
og lara: smoking hot bored billionaire going on adventures for the thrill of it. boy will like bouncy tits, girls will love to self insert as a no-nonsense baddie who does what she wants
nu lara: girl that does everything for the sake of a man (her dad) and is constantly shown in pain so the player wants to protect her like a daughter (this is what the game director stated was the goal).
nu lara gets subuected to ryona tier game over animations, dude was jerking off while doing that.
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>>750625747
If nuLara was made to appeal to men, why is she flat, brown, and otherwise not as intentionally seductive as her previous iteration?
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>>750620965
Because game sales are irrelevant. Not being facetious either. Xbox put all their eggs into the Gamepass basket. That's why they don't really market any of their releases beyond the "BY THE WAY IT'S ON GAMEPASS!111" messaging. To the general vidya audience that looks like a "ded game." No marketing, no hype, no sales milestones - nobody cares, right? But that's their goal. Focusing the marketing on one specific game only boosts that one games popularity when all they want is Gamepass subscribers which boosts the whole business. But that's a point that nobody can engage with because it goes a little deeper than "go woke, go broke."
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>>750622703
What a fucking grim life tho.
Yeah I get the rat behaviour of saying "it wasn't my fault! it was X fault" to shift the blame, but at the end of the day your career consisted in working exclusively on shitty games. I'd wager it would be more satisfying personally if the product I work on ends up being successfull

>inb4 corpo speak
it's a matter of personal gratification, imho.
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>>750625812
E-Day free on Game Pass Day 1 heavily cannibalized full-price game sales rather than causing a major influx of brand-new monthly subscribers
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>>750625747
Where does LAU Lara fits in this tho?
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>>750625791
she is made to appeal to dad gamers who want a daughter and ryona enjoyers
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>>750626029
The way I see it is that if you were already paying for Game-Pass, you weren't going to pay an additional fee to play the game and if you weren't already paying for it, you weren't going to be putting down $70 for a game that already looked middling.
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>>750626029
And the only people who know that are under NDA.
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>>750621024
Because these "western devs" were packed with subversive retards when large corporations needed to take the heat off of them and banks around 15 years ago.
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>>750620965
go woke... top the carts!
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>>750626087
I know 2 dad gamers and they both played Stellar Blade and didn't touch Veilguard or other games like that. When they aren't roping me in to play $5 friend slop games, they still play hundred hour rpgs as well, just, spread out in shorter sessions due to kids and the wife.
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>>750620965
Gears of War lost to Nortubel
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>>750624662
>DOM, DROP THE HAMMER (on this franchise)
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>>750625812
>Gamepass subscribers which boosts the whole business
Does it, really?
Can it really boost business if anyone can pay 15$ for a month, play the game and then cancel?
If anything it tells the market that the games they're releasing are only worth 15$.
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>>750621024
because only recently woke has started to actually bomb catastrophically. before that the normalfag influx was enough to cover and even surpass "gamer" purchases, especially during covid.
but now the cows came home, people don't have money and shitty entertainment is the first thing to get cut
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>>750624950
I remember when MGS4's credits going for something like 10-15 minutes were notable. Now it'd be considered short.
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>>750626272
It was a golden ticket for subpar developers to shit out 5/10 games and have Microsoft front the bill because they wanted games on the service to advertise it at all. So if nothing else it encouraged a lot of bad practices and behaviors due to that lack of market competition. Obsidian might as well have admitted as much when they said they made Avowed as their intentionally "mid" game before going to their passion project of...The Outer Worlds 2.
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Asha is going to burst a tit. Do you think she sees why did this flop?
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>>750624431
>in order to achieve a long term cultural victory
Which will fail because cultural marxism is an utterly retarded ideology.
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>>750620965
Should have made 100x $5m games instead.
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>>750621024
Because there is nothing for these parasites to learn
Their shit ideology is put in a game and either:
The game is a success, proving that their ideology is the correct opinion and can spread it further
Or
The game crashes and the chud fanbase loses another franchise
They win either way
Gatekeep your hobby, folks
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>>750625732
The thing about all of this is that these groups don’t actually matter individually. It’s not a matter of actually representing specifically them but rather what they represent in the terms of the ideological framework. They are “victims” they are weak, and therefore they are in a good position in the hierarchy that these retards follow, they are one tool used for the sake of destabilization and destruction.
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>>750625257
That makes it even more glaring that AAA studios are still trying to pull this shit in their utterly misguided attempt to draw the "wider audience" (i.e. women).
We know for a fact that women only play a very specific subset of games, and that's typically low-impact, low-stakes casual stuff that they can play in the background while watching TV or while they're waiting for a bus or on the shitter or pretending to pay attention during a conference call with 50 other people at work.
They've got zero interest in any sort of traditional video games, be it mascot platformers, JRPGs or first person shooters, yet studios keep pretending like this time, if they make the characters ugly and unappealing enough, THIS TIME they'll tap into the mythological female market and become trillionaires.
They haven't even learned that women don't like ugly trannoids or butch lesbians like they always put in, they like cute colorful shit like Stardew Valley and Animal Crossing.
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>>750625659
>Why should I believe it?
Numbers
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The best-selling Gears game was the second one, selling 6.7 million copies. Even if estrogen-day had somehow managed to reach those numbers, it still wouldn't have turned a profit. It's kinda depressing that the people signing the checks probably make more in a month than you do in 10 years, yet they couldn't even be bothered to do some simple math.
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>>750626347
>intentionally "mid" game
That's the issue, I think.
With a subscriptions strategy there's not the incentive anymore to aim for perfection, you just need to be able to fill the catalogue of available games because the publisher marketing strategy is different since it's not aiming anymore to 70$ releases, but it just aims to convince the customer the subscription is worthy enough.
It's clear why GamePass is like this, you get a "netflix" of games where there's maybe 2 interesting games releases (if it's a goodperiod) among a sea of low-quality games.
Game quality ends up paying the biggest price.
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>>750622194
I'm pretty sure they closed Bioware down when the Saudis asked to see gameplay only for them to admit they had nothing. Taking six years to make one mediocre trailer is fucking embarrassing.
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>>750626272
>Can it really boost business if anyone can pay 15$ for a month, play the game and then cancel?

Let's say you pick up Gamepass for one game. You play that game, you like it and when you're done, you remember than this other game is also on the service. You play that too. Two games you wouldn't have bought for 50% off but since they are on Gamepass you play them for $15. Then a week goes by your Gamepass sub is almost over. Out of curiosity and maybe to get "just one more game" out of your sub you browse for more games and that's where they hook you. You find 2 more games, or maybe 3 and you sub for another month. And another month after that. Yes, there are a lot of customers who only cash in that $1 sub offer and never touch the service again but those are a tiny minority. The majority are staying subbed which is their business strategy.
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>>750626087
"Dad gamers" already have their own kids, why would they want a surrogate vidya kid?
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>>750620965
>Source: It was revealed to me by an anonymous source in my dreams
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>>750626532
AI is estimating over 90% of the player base of a Gamepass game being on Gamepass and not on Steam or anywhere else.
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>>750621713
>Who do you think is insisting that every videogame be made into a pseudo-movie with 100 hours of extremely expensive cutscenes in the place of actual game design?
Genuinely, the writers room. The problem is that western AAA studios are structured so that they are the point of contact with the producers and publishers for some reason instead of the actual game developers.
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>>750626664
That also would imply that 90% of the people who played the game also didn't shell out $70 for a copy of the game proper and instead decided to do the modern equivalent of just renting it.
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>>750626724
Which is Xbox whole strategy. Get people on Gamepass and keep them there. Sales are a thing of the past to them.
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>>750621152
Larian found a more sustainable version of woke. Liberated and all inclusive, rather than being fixated on fashionable virtue signaling at the cost of beauty.
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>>750626664
>AI is estimating over 90% of the player base of a Gamepass
Okay, even if Game Pass had 4 million players (which it clearly doesn’t,800,000 at most), a $15 monthly subscription fee wouldn’t come close to covering the costs.
Because the development cost for this game was a whopping $500 million.
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>>750626743
Perhaps I'm missing some kind of eureka moment to understand the economics of that business model, but I don't see how this is a sustainable form of business when all the studios making the games are going under due to not making a profit on the games going on the service.
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>>750620965
>game is 2 player campaign like it was in gears 1
>its a tight nit story of dom and marcus living through humanities worst night
>a few quiet moments of reflection, but otherwise pure chaos, gore and horror.
>no chain of command, cogs are fucked
>game finally ends with the sun rising, you two survived the night and don the iconic armor.

Simple, easy, focus on the bros and chainsaws. Them wasting so much time on two characters that would have benefited being cut from the game was such an obvious flub. Also the game doesnt feel like it brings ANYTHING new to the franchise vs gears 3 from 14 years ago
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>>750626796
Only if the subscriber base is massive. They slammed the breaks last October, had nothing on the way, and increased the price by 50% for that reason. I guess she’s trying to revive it.
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>>750621024
Investor forgot that prior performances doesn't indicate future performance
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>>750626794
>>750626796
Let's say your total operating cost of Gamepass is $1bn a year. Right now, it, apparently, makes somewhere between 4 and 5 billion. Every game you add to the service is increasing the value of the subscription and the probability of a customer extending their subscription. Some games more than others of course. It's also an amazing revenue pot Microsoft can use to placate investors. They don't care anymore whether or not individual games make money as long as the whole is.

Also Xbox pulled another neat trick which is separating the cost of development and the profit of the game. They are using the R&D of the studio as a loss leader for their Gamepass business.
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>>750621024
They are not fueled by sales. They are fueled by investors at Blackrock or Vanguard. They could legit sell zero copies while CEOs and shareholders get paid. That's $500 million probably gets funneled back towards investors to repeat the process over and over again.
The solution is more Luigis.
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>>750627085
Then as a game development company, that is a losing trade off which as you said fronts the bill for production and RnD costs of the game while losing significant profits in the process. The only way it could be profitable would be to massively cut costs so that whatever the price Microsoft agreed to host the game is greater than the production costs, but that's clearly not working out right now as 200-500 million dollar game budgets aren't sustainable at all.
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>>750621024
Once you hire your progressive wife on a leading position and she in turns fills the HR department with her fat dyke friends, your company is doomed.
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>>750620965
Microsoft and Exbox's CEO talk about beta numbers for WOW and metacritic scores for MW4 that just came out but say nothing about a game that came out weeks ago, one of their "exclusives".
Didn't address the 500+ milly flop that everyone knows had a PS5 port cancelled at last minute...
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Wokies go brokies :3
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>>750621024
Because fuck you!
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>>750627321
Nothing like a bit of nepotism to get your career in the industry off to a roaring start.
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>>750627238
Xbox has a million metrics determining the real ROI of a Gamepass game. They are also constantly hiring and firing people at all their studios in an effort to keep as many designers from advancing to higher paying permanent full time positions.
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>>750626210
>>750626613
i never said they succeeded
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I'm just amazed they're mad at the lady who helped to develop the first gears game for pointing out the story is bad.
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>>750622082
Exclusives seem to be working just fine for Nintendo
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>this, and spud guns, packaged in a near on-rails-linear cover slop fest that wasn't objectively fun 2008, will sell our half-billion-dollar money laundering scam
Oof.
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>>750621187
>I played gears 4 and 5
Pics + time stamps, or it didn't happen.
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>>750622986
Is this one of the legendary 14 layers of management?
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>>750627547
>tfw you'll never ever be in adult daycare
Fuck, imagine getting employed for years just to fuck around, then jump ship when the game is near release
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>>750627579
I played 5
Hivebusters was great
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>>750627452
Minorities need to step in line or die. It's why Hennig got kicked out of Naughty Dog.
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>>750620965
>excluding marketting
um ik those are usually pretty high but did this game even have marketing
also in what fucking world does this crap cost 500million. this is worst then concord.
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>>750626743
>Game Pass has 30m subscribers currently,
previous peak (2024) was 35m,
while Microsoft internally projected 77m by 2026

Game Pass is a resounding failure and the main reason for all the troubles with Xbox
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>>750627845
Money laundering.
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>>750621359
in Asha we trust, she was probably already planning to trim the studio but at this rate we might just see a full on bioware execution.
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>>750621390
bg3's hardly woke, gay and lesbians is super mainstream and unlike actual woke games you get the option to turn it off or not see it, meanwhile woke games don't let you do that and it gets shoved in your face. Like imagine if you could pick the character model for taash in veilguard between the freak we got and a regular attractive cunny.
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>>750627845
7 years of dev time in Vancouver.
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its absolutely insane that remakes take longer to come out than the original games.
completely dysfunctional industry. burn it to the ground.
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>>750621596
bg3's a great game for an incredibly niche audience. but it got so much traction it got people who'd of never bought ot interested in the game. There's a reason these roleplaying tactical games aren't made anymore there's practically no audience for it unless ur a larian fan.
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>>750621681
girls play their role models in games
guys play girls in games so they can jack off to their avatar, we can co-exist.
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>>750627963
idk if its relevant to gears of war, but construction work in quebec is notoriously crappy because of the government grants so they intentionally do slow work just to siphon additional pay and other issues, wonder if something similar happened with gears of war.
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>>750620965
>estimated
So it's all bullshit.
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>>750625747
>self-insert
Self-insert faggots are the biggest problem in video games. These fucking NPCs cannot relate to anything unless it’s a near carbon copy of their own ugly ass.
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>>750623034
her boss penis
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>>750620965
>500 million dollars in development alone

WTF

Concord costs 400 million dollars to make and that was considered one of the most expensive entertainment products ever

This is also more expensive than Avengers Endgame

How????????
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>>750627858
>while Microsoft internally projected 77m by 2026
That is just straight up delusional. Apparently they have 500mil MAUs so 40, maaaaybe 45 million, Gamepass subscribers are possible but anything more than that is ridiculous.
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I really liked Gears 1, thought 2 was decent.

3 was kinda mid, everything after that looked boring as hell and I haven't played a Gears game since 3. Funny enough I remember buying both Gears 3 and Dark Souls on the same day. I'm pretty sure I've bought everything Fromsoft has put out since.
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>>750628195
Concord is still the most expensive because it had almost no sales at all, on top of issuing refunds
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>>750628195
>>This is also more expensive than Avengers Endgame
>How????????
The Video Game industry surpassed the Film and Music industries combined, like a decade ago.
Games cost more to make, because they're bigger products that require more working hours to produce. Thus when a AAA budget game flops it loses more than a movie.
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>>750621390
>BG3 has gay porn and bestiality, and refugees are presented as people rather than the parasites we all know they are

But BG3 is a great game and not woke enough to alienate the chuds
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>>750621152
>>750621390
>>750621462
please don't give me the option to kiss men bro I can't not do it if given the option bro please bro
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BG3 is good because Shadowheart is beautiful and i want to fuck her.
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>>750628537
Hey kid, wanna see a magic trick?
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>>750620965
They don't have a problem with budgets, they have a problem with allocation of resources. Nobody gives a fuck about gears and nobody has given a fuck about it for well over a decade. If you want to spend 500 million on a game you do it for an IP people actually care about like fallout, or halo (contracted to bungie) or elder slop.
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>>750628195
Gamepass loss leader.
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>>750627321
>Jedi Fallen Order introduces the cute autistic Dathomiri love interest
>Maggs' book makes her a lesbian out of nowhere because she can't stand seeing a character appeal to men
>Jedi Survivor doesn't even acknowledge the book exists and still has her falling in love with the protagonist
Fucking kek, bet she's still seething over this.
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>>750628941
The characters in bg3 would be alright if they removed the romance/flirting, those parts are just so awful.
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>>750629235
these people really think they can claim ownership of a character from a million dollar IP.
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>>750621024
Their end goal is propaganda not making money. Studios are not closing because they aren't profitable. They are being shut down because (((they))) realized they pushed DEI crap too hard to fast and now even normalfags are aware. They aren't stopping, just taking a pause. OFC Saudis and chinks will close every single woke studio they acquire but the west will take a long time to heal the wounds GamerGate created. The DEI initiative was created to snuffle out the flames of the Occupy Wallstreet movements. It worked and then some. Everybody forgot about the banks and complains about girlbosses and trannies in their games. When every game has voluptuous hot women, guns and dinosaurs and there's not a single tranny to be found we will think we won while the bankers laugh at us.
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>>750628119
It's absolutely been happening in vidya, just take a look at all the shit around Bioware's shutdown.
>had staff "working" on a new ME game for the last six years
>show literally nothing in all that time other than a generic teaser image
>suits suddenly come around and tell them to show where they're at
>hastily slap together a trailer out of reused assets and insist that they're "about to enter early development" or some shit
There's no way any of them were doing any actual work during that time, or they'd have more to show for it outside of that last-minute trailer. I guarantee they were all sitting on their asses and planning to rush the job last minute or more likely outsource it to some no-name developer to do all the work for them instead
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>>750620965
I didn’t even know it had been released.
I feel video game marketing, especially at the AAA level has gone to shit. I guess this is what happens when people use ad blockers and don’t get physical print or watch TV anymore, but then they have to adapt to other ways.
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>>750624837
They already made engine, all of it was made from the scratch, most of the work is done
Now pump out decent sequel with none of the woke shit and I will buy it.
They should hire some 50+ year old guys with 10 years of combat experience as character writers, not some ex tumblrinas
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>>750629332
I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure she's also the one who's only contribution to the last Ratchet & Clank game was making sure that the female lead had smaller tits by screeching loudly about it in the middle of the office at every opportunity she got.
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>>750629457
She literally admitted to constantly screaming LOMBAX TITTIES all the time to irritate her coworkers into nerfing Rivet's boobs, yes. She also tried to claim ownership of Rivet a fair number of times, to the annoyance of her former colleagues who said the process of creating Rivet was a team effort. She has a healthy ego, that one.
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>>750621152
You don't have to take a single minute of your time in BG3 to appease fags or trannies. The moment something pisses you off you can nuke every fag in a kilometer and that's it. No moral lecture nothing. Meanwhile in Veilguard you have to sit through a 5 min cutscene where you watch someone doing pull-ups because they misgendered a tyranny.
Fucking crazy
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>>750628195
Everything in the entertainment industry nowadays is just about laundering or embezzling as much money as they can before they get bought out or shut down.
>This is also more expensive than Avengers Endgame
You think that's bad, anon? It costs as much to make two episodes of the Rings of Power streaming series as it did to make the entire Lord of the Rings movie trilogy.
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>>750629510
>constantly screaming LOMBAX TITTIES all the time to irritate her coworkers
I seem to remember one of her coworkers at the time replying to a thread on twitter and saying that she made her feel incredibly uncomfortable with all that.
Naturally, Maggs played the victim instead of apologizing.
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>>750621024
With Jews, You Lose
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>>750629526
I think one of my favorite things about Veilguard is that it literally gates the endgame off until you complete all your companion sidequests. It's literally a case of
>guys there's a world-ending threat that we need to deal with immediately
>but first we need to talk about our feelings
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>>750629613
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>>750629665
Good ol Sam Maggs and her nonsense.
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>>750629665
>woman, tranny and simp all throwing a tantrum to try and override the art director and the project director
At what point do you just put your foot down and say
>no, we're doing it the way we already agreed upon, now get back to work
and if they keep it up, fire them for being unprofessional and disrupting the workplace?
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>>750629807
Sam did get fired, it sounded like. She keeps getting fired from jobs for *some* reason.
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>>750626664
wow, so instead of getting 2k players it would be getting 20k players? How much would those 20k have to pay to cover 500 000 000 dollar (pre advertising so actually higher) costs?
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>>750628537
kill yourself faggotnigger
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>>750622901
>Respect women (sort of)
>See this face
>IMMEDIATELY wanna start pummeling these bitches into the dirt

I don't know what it is, when I see them make these faces, I just start seeing red. I'm not even angry, it just feels like instinct.
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>>750629723
>woman speaks out of line
>trannoid attack dog jumps on her immediately
>"everyone I spoke to agreed with me, why don't you?"
Can almost guarantee it was a case of people just smiling and nodding to get them to shut up/fuck off, considering every other point of view seems to be that they were being obnoxious cunts.
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>>750629841
At the end of the day, she doesn't care, because she got what she wanted, and that's to make another female character sexless and bland.
It's just something else to put on her resume.
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>>750629878
>>>woman speaks out of line
>>trannoid attack dog jumps on her immediately
Many such cases, honestly. Especially in game dev now, I imagine. It unironically feels like enforcing very rigid gender roles even though those kinds of Californian game dev studios are supposed to be progressive.
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>>750622901
It doesn't carry the gravitas of when a man does it
It's akin to a child screaming when they don't get a toy
It's impotent, and kinda funny
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>>750624406
gaylo was always babby's first fps, it's not that good so they didn't buy it
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I liked picrel even having played none of the "real" games of the franchise
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>>750621681
if the lesbian characters were both femme, clearly feminine and at least modestly attractive, and acted as such and didnt try to occupy the masculine or male roles, most issues would cease to exist.
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>>750620965
>take a dude-bro franchise
>fill it with ugly women and woke ideology
>it fails
NO WAY, COULD THIS HAPPEN TO THEM!?
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>>750629998
The delta between whats declares and what is has never been larger for the progressive types, truth of the matter is that they want gender roles, they just dont like the role they got at birth.
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>>750629871
>>750622901
this is genuinely more offensive than putting in 100 trannies who lecture you how being white is evil into a video game and I too do not know why. You're right anon, this is a primordial reaction. Women shouldn't be making those faces.
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>>750629723
Never hire women
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>>750629998
It's like that black dev who came out and said
>damn they really do be makin' vidya bitches ugly as shit these days
and then a day later had to walk it back because he got mobbed by terminally online fags who circled the wagons.
>very rigid gender roles
I always found it funny how it only took a few years to go from "girls can play with trucks and boys can play with dolls" to "little johnny looked at a doll? time to cut his balls off, he's a girl now". We've unironically gone backwards in terms of that shit.
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>>750620965
Goddamn bros I love winning by doing nothing so much
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>>750630048
I only played it for about an hour or so on gamepass but I thought what I saw of it was okay. Almost certainly wasn't worth the asking price, but it looked like it had some potential to be good.
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>>750621024
Because Western devs are all man hating purple hair nose ring butch bitch lesbians who hate men and they're troons who hate being men.

You can tell without looking at a single picture of their team, you can tell by the results that the produce every single time and also them talking about niggeroah Wilson over here as if we all know her and love her, it's hilarious tone deaf bullshit.

The build up to these firings are super entertaining. This shit has taken years to build up, but the pay off is here now and I'm loving watching these retarded woman have to go back to sucking dick and bagging the fries because they destroyed their own positions at Jewish daycare by not serving the chuds. Now they're getting fired and they're going to have to service that chud nuts down their throats in this economy that is destroyed. It's going to be beautiful seeing these women go back to the streets where they belong with their misandry.
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>>750629932
And this is the kind of mentality so persistent in this industry that caused it to die. It might still take a while, but Bioware just got killed and I saw people get upset and try to cope with petitions and shit, so I'm plenty amused.

>>750630206
Right, I forgot about that guy. Minorities need to step into line, of course.

>We've unironically gone backwards in terms of that shit
We have.
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>>750630065
Funnily enough, Gears 3 was the first one to add women to the player character squads, and most people were fine with it because the characters were relatively hot and not annoying although the australian chick got on my nerves a bit with her accent
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>>750621175
I couldn't even buy it in the first place when I saw the footage. Completely ruined the franchise and they thought I would buy? These women are a joke. They think they can strong arm men into doing whatever they command.
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>>750624038
>this is grim
I think you mean funny
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>>750628195
Concord was the biggest MEDIA flop EVER. Not only vidya. Bigger than ET by a mile and a half. As in costs minus profits. I think Gears of Onions : Estrogen Gay will end up being a net loss of - 200 million give or take while Concord is - 300ish that will never recover because it died in less than two weeks. HYENAS we don't have any numbers and I doubt Fairgame$ will ever come out
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>>750622831
>Notice how ALL the women in these are extremely unfeminine, butch, gender ambiguous, and downright look and act like men?
Notice that the bitch's armor unironically looks like her tits were chopped off, and considering those same faggots put literal top surgery scars in character creators, anyone who tells me I'm reading too much into it gets the firing squad.
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>>750621390
This is exactly why I'm still never buying their game. Bg2 looks woke as fuck to me. I might sail for it but will never give money to trash that pushes gays and niggers.
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>>750630283
Honestly, twenty or so years ago Debra Wilson would have been a complete non-issue because devs actually had some talent to make character models rather than just lazily face scanning and mocapping voice actors.
I don't hate her voice, but holy shit I'm sick of seeing her in games, particularly since devs almost always hit her model with the ugly stick (like they do with all female characters nowadays) and give her that uncanny bug-eyed look that makes her look like a Star Wars alien.
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>>750623185
>>750623345
>>750624110
Judgement removed Active Reload.
That alone should condemn the game.
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>>750620965
>>750621024
AAA studios are some weird money laundering scheme, right?

Or do (((the investors))) really value the propaganda pushed so much with traditional media losing appeal?
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>>750630354
Gears has had the flat-titty armor design since the first game, but the girls they had in 3 definitely had more feminine armor than the fridge-body golem that's in the new one, so you're probably at least partially right. It even looks like they gave her the male armor instead.
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>>750630464
>Judgement removed Active Reload.
Yeah okay fuck off that shit's unforgivable. Gears pioneered that shit, you can't just take it out.
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>>750630507
Kind of, yes. As for the investors, they dont really care. They're more than happy to receive money from blackrock to say DEI DEI DEI. Even if the companies fail, they'll still get their investment back.
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>>750628303
It had 0 sales, since Sony issued reimbursements to everyone.
It actually managed to get negative revenues if you consider taxes and whatnot.
People downplay how much of a money black hole that project was.
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>>750630343
There are some rumours how it cost 500million. If its true and it makes less than 100 (Very likely) then it's a bigger flop than concord.
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>>750627858
Do the math retard. Even with only 30m subs a month, they're pulling in 450M a month just from that. That's almost the entire budget for e-gay in a single month. It's passive money that funds years of game development in a single months intake.
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>>750630595
Gears 3 takes place in the summer, so everyone is dressed down and sleeveless.
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These girl boss games would at least make back profits if the girl boss in question was actually kinda attractive instead of being a mixed-race dysgenic looking manly bulldyke.
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>>750630849
I meant more the chestpieces. You can see that Anya's and whatsherface's are slightly curvier to accommodate for their tits.
Compare that to this thing, which looks like it's wearing the same armor as Dom and the other guys.
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>>750630928
Probably. Real life shows that men will put up with some serious shit coming from a woman's mouth if she's hot.
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>>750630832
That isn't all profit, they have massive costs in running the service. To be profitable they need the numbers to surge to 77 million like >>750627858
said. Otherwise they'd say the money would be better invested elsewhere.
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>>750630832
You're assuming that gamepass is pure profit and has no operating costs of its own, which it almost certainly does.
Revenue doesn't equal profit.
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>>750620965
>$500 million in production costs
*$485 million in shareholder and venture capitalist costs, $15m in actual development
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>>750630934
Yeah, Mags is just irritating to look at in many ways. I turned her into Gil (the blonde chopper pilot) with mods by act 3 because I couldn't stand the constant cuts to Mags' ugly face.

Women with tits do exist in this game, however.
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>>750622986
That's cool, but when does she actually do any real work?
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>>750630832
PlayStation Plus has more subscribers and is currently more profitable and structurally sustainable than Xbox Game Pass

You lost. fucking KYS, MS jeet
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>>750630697
Not anymore. I'm pretty sure I recall hearing that all of that money dried up a while back because it was mostly coming from retiree funds and portfolios, which eventually have to be paid out when people start to retire like all the boomers are now and since it was basically being "invested" into things that were making negative profit, they can't keep doing it much longer without defaulting on them which they are almost certainly willing to do regardless.
That, coupled with the massive investments we saw during the covid era when publishers foolishly assumed the audience would keep growing after the lockdowns ended, has led to a lot of publishers left holding the check for enormous failures and no money to cover for them, hence why we've been seeing record amounts of layoffs and shutdowns in the last year or so.
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>>750631051
settle down commie, dont you have a shop to loot
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>>750623681
Are you retarded or a shill? Based on post time im going to assume your incel retard.
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>>750623592
She seems to be presiding over a gaming crash .
What a legacy.
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How are games so expensive in the AI era?
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>>750631374
Asha Shaman's public comments suggest that MS hasn't really been using AI to make games yet. But they're looking into it now.
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>>750620965
>Way too large teams
>Throwing in LGBT shit into a setting that never had this shit...or in case of Tactics it's fascism despite the planet Sera not being fucking Earth
>Doing a bait and switch and making Mags the focus + all the shit that comes with her
>No mechanics from previous GoW games
>Unnecessary lore changes
>Long production time for no reason
The Coalition deserves being shut down.
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>>750631007
Never said it was pure profit. You're the one assuming. Gamepass doesn't require 400M a month to operate. If it did then Microsoft would have gone bankrupt by now. It's a money printer used to cover costs of operations. Gamepass itself doesn't generate profit because it's used to increase money flow to other operations. This is beginner business shit that even a retard could understand.
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>>750625901
The people making these games aren't just cynically doing this because it's how you fit in and build clout. They really do believe this stuff is what the largest possible audience wants. They really do believe there's a wide swathe of people of all backgrounds just chomping at the bit to play blockbuster video games, if only they weren't so chuddy.

They only ever think of the "typical gamer" as the 12 year old Modern Warfare shrieker calling people slurs over Xbox Live with a shitty headset. Of course you don't want to appeal to those people. They suck, they ruined other people's fun by being annoying little shits. In fact, they want to spite that kid as much as they possibly can.
But it's been 15 years since that was the state of things. Trash talk like that has been banned in games for longer than it was ever allowed, those guys have mostly grown up, and no new kids have had the opportunity to take their place.

The truth is that most people playing video games want interesting systems and competent stories that don't walk on eggshells, whatever they're about. The real average gamer will entertain whatever story you hand them as long as it comes with good mechanics and it's put together competently. A lot of them will pinch their noses and tolerate it even if they don't really agree. They won't come away agreeing with you, necessarily. But they'll play it.
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>>750620965
the videogame industry is such a weird place because how the fuck can you justify throwing 500 million at Gears of War when the series never sold as much to justify that price
that is twice the budget of fucking GTA V.
this industry seriously cant make a game without throwing every last penny they have at it, its like the entire industry is run by retarded gambling addicts
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>>750630301
>Bioware
Are there any anti-Islam gays on X?
I'd like to see how gays would react if they were labeled as Islamophobic.
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>>750631421
>we're looking into using AI to make games just as the industry is starting to crash

300 IQ.
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>>750631729
hey man we're on /v/ you can't have a well-thought opinion here.
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>>750631729
No, many actually do believe the average gamer is a chud and simply needs to be re-educated.

>>750632056
Bootlicker.
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Meanwhile a random indie game sold 350k copies in 24 hours lmao
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>>750620965
Do it Asha
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>>750620965
Go woke, go broke.
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>>750632213
No one at BioWare believed Taash was going to re-educate GamerGate types into allies. All of that was written because they genuinely believed there was an audience of Progressive Young People who'd gush over their Fake Joss Whedon writing and its "realistic" depiction of LGBTQ+ self-discovery. The idea was that it would piss off the "Gamers" while becoming a cultural touchstone for a new generation.

They're naive, spiteful, and talentless by committee. Anything interesting or even potentially worthwhile is battered down into submission by toxic positivity peer pressure and the writing consultants they hire to sanitize everything of potential controversy, and everyone at every step of the process is reassured that everything is fine.
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>>750622703
Frankly I think they are just straight up simping for women with this shit. Just like that Spiderman dev whose marriage proposal was in the game.
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>>750622754
Just have the stronk female protagonist save both using her op powers, dying in the process. Literally the best way to do it. Removes multiple choices, removes woman from squad, gives an opportunity to have punished Marcus jr (I too forgot his name lmao) arc.
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>>750622194

Publishers need to start making developers compete to get published.

For example, on the show The Ultimate Fighter they used to let fighters on the show based on an interview. Many talked a big game but when it was their time to fight, they we're just horrible and/or boring.

After a few seasons, the show started taking 30 people who wanted to be on the show and having them fight. The 15 winners would the be on the show. This weeded out all the liars, cowards and retards.

Vidya needs to do something similar.
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>>750621024
They only hire blue haired social justice freaks to make games you can't have a core team of chuds making good games because companies care more about optics than success
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>>750621024
The game is fun tho
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>>750632692
>No one at BioWare believed Taash was going to re-educate GamerGate types into allies. All of that was written because they genuinely believed there was an audience of Progressive Young People who'd gush over their Fake Joss Whedon writing and its "realistic" depiction of LGBTQ+ self-discovery. The idea was that it would piss off the "Gamers" while becoming a cultural touchstone for a new generation.
I actually don't think that's true. Looking at Veilguard and the general way it's written and presented, I think they thought it was genuinely educational. Maybe not necessarily for "reeducating chuds" but definitely for trying to educate somebody. The very basic level of language used and the constant repeating of things, it reminds me of how TV shows for 5-6 year olds are written. Combined with the weird bobblehead style designs of the characters, it genuinely comes across in a very very juvenile way like it was intended to be educational, not playing to an existing audience.
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>>750621390
>larian made all but one of the companions white
What about Karlach? She's red.
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>>750632692
Can't believe they thought that so sincerely they fucking died. They're dead because that audience, minuscule as it is, didn't even buy their games. Every time I heard someone praise Veilguard online it was with the asterisk of "I *heard* it's good", not "I played it and it's good".
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>>750620965
I'd love to see a breakdown of where their expected audience went
Previous GOW games sold millions of copies, where did those people go? Are they saving their money for something else, or are they buying video games at all anymore? What's the share between new players and old fans among the 400k who bought it?
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>>750633154
Back in the day, like the N64 era, this is how Rare operated. They had multiple small teams that would compete with each other. They were constantly putting out well-received and beloved games, because their teams and budgets were small enough to allow for a vision but big enough to do something interesting. Nowadays they're only working on one fucking game and it came out eight years ago.
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>>750621024
Cause AAA studios apparently can't understand the basics of customer service that most teenagers and young adults learn
>Okay, the customer may be a massive asshole, but just smile, help them out the best you can, and get them out the door. It's why we're paying you.
That easy. But all you see are devs going out of their way to antagonize people on the internet, who would buy their product. It's baffling.
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>>750620965
Does anyone care about gears in 2026
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>>750630424
That's what she looks like in real life, and she signed up for the gig, she was all giddy and excited to get at the "wypipo", she wanted the attention, she's only now complaining because she can see we hate her ugly nigger face and nigger loving attitude, she thought she could do all the motion capture, all the face scans and then hate on white people, but it turns out that people reflected her ugliness back to her and she's angry now that she can't escape the mirror. I'm not even white, I'm a jeet, and I'm disgusted every time I have to look at a wide nosed fat lipped nigger be put into everything, I don't even care if they fit the position any more, I've got so much nigger fatigue from their attitude and hatred of whites, that now if they were ever to make a slavery movie, I want to see every black person just replaced by a white guy so I don't have to see their ugliness any more. It's actually retroactively made me look back at my post consumption of media and realize how disgusting nigger representation in media truly is, they've constantly been portrayed as the good guy, the best buddy to a racist white cop, the affable wise cracking calm and reasonable guy while every white guy is down to be some evil racist. The long string of buddy cop movies, the constant portrayal of a black man as the sheriff, the head of the police, the fucking Denzel Washington stereotype that all black men are just cool niggas but victims of racism is a fucking joke.

When you say "I hate niggers", a black person should say "exactly fuck niggers, I hate them too", but instead they reply with "I identify as that thieving violent feral nigger animal and how dare you put a mirror to my face you racist, now I will violently prove to you that you are right to hate niggers".
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>>750632213
Brown.
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>>750633801
They live in a bubble. Everyone else from the day they graduated high school to the day they finally get let go has been of the same political and social valence. All the dissent they ever hear is from the internet, which is easy to perpetually dismiss as bitter grumbling from a tiny cluster of miserable people who'd never be satisfied no matter what you do.
It's such a strong bias that even now that shit is falling apart, they keep saying "You're not important enough to matter. You don't even play video games. This isn't because you're unsatisfied, it has to be something else."

It doesn't matter if you tell them you've been playing video games your whole life. That you have hundreds of physical games accumulated over the last 30+ years, every console ever made, and a library just as large on Steam. You can't possibly be a real influence on the industry because you make purchasing decisions based on the marketing materials new AAA games are providing.
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>>750624110
Gamers (and people in general) used to have standards. Sure, you can say they were overblown, but having high standards is better than having none.
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>>750632263
>shopkeeper sim, but cyberpunk
>people buy it en mass
Do people really yearn to be a shopkeeper?
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>>750624110
A sports game being almost nothing but a roster update used to be cause to give a game a zero.

Olympic Hockey '98 was just Wayne Gretzky's 3D Hockey '98, which was just the original 3D Hockey with a roster update itself. Midway released three functionally identical games in less than three years, and IGN gave Olympic Hockey '98 a zero for it.
Now, it's par for the course. Madden hasn't changed in a meaningful way for 10 years at least, neither have NHL, EAFC, or NBA2K. By the standards of IGN in 1997, all of these games ought to be getting zeroes. But EA and 2K have been bribing the shit out of these people for decades now, so everything gets a 7 or an 8.

GamerGate was 100% morally correct, but it got too bogged down in the how and why of the major publications' bias for Zoe Quinn existed in the first place, even though it didn't really matter.
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>>750620965
They'll never have a profitable game as long as it's on game pass day 1
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>>750634938
>I'm a jeet
not trying to offend or anything but... why would you call yourself that? "jeet" is used primarily as a slur, you could've said "indian" and call it a day.
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>>750624842
>lets hire a woman to write this game
Adrian Southin and Daija Marrow are both men.
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>>750636101
Because someone is going to throw that label against me anyways but I love white people, if I call myself a British born Indian, I'm still going to get attacked for it. I'll go with your advice and just call myself Indian, because to be fair I'm racist against Indians just as much as any racist but it's because I know Indians and their culture. I'm lucky I was born and raised amongst white people.
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>>750620965
>costs we can't verify
>sales we can't verify
>players we can't verify
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>>750637070
to be fair, I don't think /v/ is as racist as it claims to be. There's a difference in jeets and indians much like the difference you were trying to make between niggers and black men
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>>750620965
not just anyone but a DEI worshipping troon called "Kate" Rainer
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>>750625115
I shouldn't need to have to kill them. That's like saying the new shoes are waterproof and you can just wash off the dogshit they came plastered in.
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>>750631374
>+600 employees
>Working for 6 years
> at an average of $80,000 a year
That’s how.
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>>750620965
>$500 million in production costs
Seriously why does it cost so much?
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>>750625812
They've already admitted GameAss is costing them a lot of money and is basically a write-off.
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>>750624406
If they had just ported master chief collection over instead it would have sold so much better
There's a lot of ps users who jumped ship from xbox during or after the xbone era who'd probably buy the hell out of it
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>>750626532
Those don't appear to be numbers relating to productions costs though.
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>>750637187
Based. I'm Indian. I fucking hate jeets.
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>>750622831
Kait was cute and retarded, that`s a woman true and true I really don`t mind her in Gears 4 and 5, Mags in Gay-day though...
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Anyone has the theory of mind for how they viewed the target audience without factoring in the woke stuff? As far as I understand COD is mostly bought for multiplayer and I can understand why everybody is hyped for GTA, but who cares about gears? I remember being really hyped for the first couple of games but due to artstyle and the vibe they are going for every new one just looks and feels the same to me. I heard the graphics are really good so at some point maybe I will check it out but I just don't see what excitement this franchise is even capable of generating at this point?
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>>750620965
They should have brought the games that aren't 1 and 5 to Steam for easy money. I guess software dev salaries in the Bay Area and Seattle just aren't worth it for making video games.
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>>750620965
>$500 million
>excluding marketing
A high development budget inevitably means a high marketing budget so this is actually even worse than you'd think. I think it's safe to say the marketing cost more than $100m here, possibly a lot more.
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>>750620965
Do modern games sell so badly that nowadays they are stuck releasing the number of copies sold instead of the money they made?
What's good about a game that was played by let's say ten million of users, who got it on Pass or for 2-7 euro and maybe 90% of them dropped it after 10-30 min?
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E-Day was Microsoft’s last chance at surviving in the console war and they blundered it. And from the looks of it, it almost seemed intentional. Call of Duty owns Halo, Gears couldn’t even break a milky, and nobody gives a fuck about Forza. Xbox is done
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lol, they owned the chuds once again.
And it only costed them their jobs.
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>>750638903
why are they done when they own wow, cod and bethesda
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>>750638968
None of those are good lol trannies aren’t a very big audience
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>>750620965
But think of how many GAMEPASS players it has! If it sold 400k then it must have at least 600k players on GAMEPASS!
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>takes 500 million to develop a shitty FPS game
Californian budgets are utterly out of control
in comparison Doom was made by a bunch of college students living on pizza & mountain dew whose biggest bills were caused by how frequently they would trash their own office for funsies.
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>>750639206
>The Coalition (formerly Zipline Studios, Microsoft Game Studios Vancouver and Black Tusk Studios) is a Canadian video game developer based in Vancouver, part of Xbox Game Studios.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Coalition_(company)
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>>750623185
i miss overrun. shit was cash.
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>>750622979
How can Gears 6 be a Marcus and Dom game you fucking retard? Dom is dead
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>>750620965
It's says more than 400.000 copies, which means it could've sold millions!
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>>750621024
Making money isn’t their goal
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>>750620965
>>750621024
The even crazier thing is that there are companies with active projects right now watching these disasters one after another, knowing full well they will be the next disasters if they don't make changes, and they're choosing to stay the course regardless. They're too terrified to do otherwise. The Western gaming industry is superfucked, and I think in a few years the AAA landscape is going to be almost nothing but sports and CoD.
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>>750638903
>intentional
This is probably the case. I didn’t see any marketing for this shit at all.
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>>750622194
The problem is that games can sell exclusively on reputation, but that reputation is expendable, and suits/ideological zombies are too short sighted to understand this. You can take a successful franchise, cram the next installment full of woke slop, shart it out on to the market, and still make money because of the good name. But in doing so you have used up that good name and now have an uphill battle for the next game, it has to actually be good and it's sales are going to chug for a bit until word gets out. Suits/ideological zombies don't understand this, see the "success" of the wokified game and think it's fine, or even imagine the success is because of their obnoxious politics. The nu-wolfenstein games are a text book example of this.

>new order
>nice little shooter game. Some woke shit but easy to ignore. If anything the woke shit is funny because it's so retarded (underwater space jews let their own people get aushwitz'd for no reason)
>old colossus
>actual game part gets put on the backburner to make way for yaas queen moments and inarticulate screeching about orange man the bad
>young bloods
>nobody bought it lol
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>>750621152
BG3 is old school degenerate where you can be as much or as little as you please and the game doesn't call you a bad person if you choose to be a prude
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>>750635808
It's probably the best of it's type, and the constant need to do estimations of every transaction is pretty engrossing. I'm playing it now and I don't usually like this type of sim.
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>>750620965
>excluding marketing
so really like $600-650M
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>game sold more than 400k
>implies that it could have sold as high as tens of millions
chuds? our response?
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>>750620965
>according to a report
care to share the report?
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>>750621024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwwN5kwjAtQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwwN5kwjAtQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwwN5kwjAtQ
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>>750627928
>gay and lesbians is super mainstream
That's not an argument. Calvin Klein is a mainstream brand and they had fat niggers on their billboards. Just because it's mainstream doesn't mean it's somehow not woke.
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>>750622154
this is underappreciated
the ultimate edition costs $100 to buy
if you're already paying for Gamepass, you could unlock the same ultimate edition for $30
at most $55 if reactivating your account to play it
it was never going to work out for the developers
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>>750620965
Gears has never been popular enough to justify that sort of budget.
Whoever signed off on this is a massive retard.
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>>750641301
Didn't he already course-corrected live? He basically said he was wrong not so long ago.
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>>750633476
She's just a white chick with a really bad sunburn
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>>750621024
cuz they're leftists
and their goal is to destroy video games because (You) like video games

this isn't complicated guys
learn some pattern recognition
hell they openly admit it ffs

what's not to get?
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>>750621596
The most romanced character is Shadowheart and the most common create a character was human male
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>>750641456
Do you really believe that?
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>>750630424
>holy shit I'm sick of seeing her in games
She is too, as she recently said in an interview. I hope that the industry can get over their obsession with facescanning VAs and go back to real character design.
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>>750636101
Jeet means victory saar
Jai Hind!
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We got to stop acting like sales aren't perpetual. Gears has a much longer shelf life being that it's also live service with content updates and long term play. We also need to understand that XBOX makes money off of the 1.7 million + that are playing on Gamepass every month.
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>>750641571
>that park place
Sweet Baby are scamming fucks, but please provide a better source than "Fake and Gay News".
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>>750642036
>9 months later, the game studio that made the turd closes
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>>750638518
They where targeting the fans of the old games by promising the return of beloved characters.
They ''forgot'' to mention mags.
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>>750621596
Women are literally bigger chuds than men. None of them want to play as ugly women, or romance negroids.
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Apparently the gameplay is really good too much means it's the campaign, writing and characters that are chasing people alway.
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The $500 million budget ONLY for E-Day is retarded because it assumes The Coalition has only been working in that game since the end of Gears 5 in 2019 when in reality they have done other things since then like:

>Worked on Gears 5 post launch support and campaign DLC
>Development on Gears Tactics and Gears Pop
>Had to help 343i ship Halo:Infinite before and after the original delay
>Helped made Avowed with Unreal Engine
>Helped inXile
>Helped with the Perfect Dark Reboot that was cancelled
>Helped Undead Labs with State of Decay 3 being made into UE 5
>Helped Ninja Theory with Hellblade 2
>Made the UE 5 tech demo The Matrix Awakens with Epic Games because a lot of ex-Epic devs from the Gears 3 days are still working at TC and know better the ins and outs of UE than even some people at current Epic
>Made the Gears UE port to PS5
>Helped Halo Studios with the Halo CE remake
>Made E-Day

$500 distributed across all of these sounds reasonable and par of the course, chances are that E-Day was done with the usual $100-200 like Gears 5. If we assume it ONLY was $500 for E-Day, then the whole studio balloons into a 1 Billion operation for 7 years because all their other work, 343i was sacked for less and Halo was a more valuable for Xbox than Gears. For example, Halo Infinite that started development in 2016 to 2021 was such a mess that was restarted multiple times in those 5 years that the budget ballooned into an actual $500 million and it took them another 5 years with an Unreal Engine remake to burn $200 million with the Halo CE remake which finally made Microsoft gut them
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Estrogen Day
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>>750638916
>owned the chuds
What exactly does this mean? I still don't understand.
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>>750621390
I think part of it is that most woke games go into this finger-wagging bullshit. BG3 doesn't and doesn't really stop you from doing what you want.
I think people are tired of being preached and condescended to more than they are tired of actual gay shit.
It's like walking into a store with your dog, buying some peanut butter because you want to give him a treat and the cashier tells you "don't put that on your dick you fucking freak"
Fuck you, I wasn't going to and how dare you insinuate I would.
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>>750641373
on the scale of wokeness its at the bottom and it doesn't shove it in your face.
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>>750645768
Meds
Tranny
Take
Em
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>>750646017
there's no trannies in bg3 though?
I think you might need to actually play the games
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>>750642192
Do you think the video of the guy saying that suddenly becomes fake depending on who reports it?
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>>750620965
>hire dozens of minorities and lesbian women with purple hair
>they just waste time doing nothing and burn all your money
why not just flush all your money down the toilet at this point?
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>>750625747
But my gf only played the horsefucker Lara games.
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>>750621024
It's all propaganda now.
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>>750620965
>$500 million in production costs
found the problem, they need a tighter budget for fucking GEARS OF WAR, bahahahaha, my friends used to play all these back in the day, I never touched it outside the first one
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>Jew Schreier just confirmed the $500m budget is accurate
Um xbros? Our response?
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>>750621024
Games used to be made by fat nerds in a garage. Now they are made by mega corps controlled mostly be womens emotions. What's funny is all this has led to is being controlled by arabs that now remove all their gay shit lmao
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>>750629526
>You don't have to take a single minute of your time in BG3 to appease fags or trannies.
If it failed like Veilguard, you would be singing a different song.
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>>750620965
>over a thousand dollars spent per copy sold
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>>750625747
>completely ignored nuLara
Source?
The three nuLara games outsold the rest of the franchise.
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>>750625747
Sometimes I feel like that very small cult of Tomb Raider fans are detached from reality.
Nigger no damn woman played videogames at all when Tomb Raider was popular.
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>>750635808
>people really yearn to be a shopkeeper
It gives people an outlet for their search of purpose that they could never get from their shitty wageslave job
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>>750628195
I would believe that building a live service infrastructure is the cause, but there is no way they are building that from scratch everytime?
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>japanese studios
praise by critics and players alike, insane profit growth YoY for 10+ years straight, keep their nose down from all the political/social metacommentary and activism bullshit and just give players what they want
>mutt/western studios
a humiliation ritual for players, literally

so how long this can keep going or we have to wait until every western studio runs itself into the ground with no survivors to make geaming great again
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>>750643109
>>Had to help 343i ship Halo:Infinite before and after the original delay
>>750643109
>>Helped Halo Studios with the Halo CE remake
i bet an easy $100m went to these fuck ups, no wonder microsoft sacked them
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>>750622082
It was sustainable during the last generation. Costs have gone up for essentially no reason. Graphics barely improved so all the talk about visuals making things cost more doesn’t add up. Google says Gears 2 cost the devs $11 million to make.
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good
these retards need to develop new IP or die
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I have just one question, who are these games for?
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>>750629665
I would just show them a picture of Angela to shut them up. she's even muscular so they can keep their gay fantasy
>"Anyone can be a hero!", but only if they are an amorphous blob that also wear the same things I wear and share all my own opinions
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>>750641559
Karlach is not white, maybe latino
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>>750620965
games are just too expensive to make, mostly due to dev time and lack of oversight

E-day took 7 fucking years and was made by 2 game studios, colation and people can fly, coalition has 300 employees, PCF has 500, so lets say 700 full time people worked on this

700 x 100k x 7 = 500mln$ in salaries alone, and that dosnt include contractors, marketing, licences, officees, hardware, software, localization, VA, music or anything really
so i think the 500mln$ number is way way underestimating how much it cost, i expect up to a 1 bilion$ cost for the game

If microsoft cut the dev time to 3,5 years that alone would cut the budget in half, and then limit team size to 300 people thats 75% cost reduction and you can bet the game quality wouldnt be impacted, since all it would me you would have 80% less managers and the same amount of coders
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>>750621024
They have been exclusively hiring mentally ill wokies and cowards for like a decade at this point. They don't even know where to find workers who are actually interested on making good games anymore. Shit will have to completely collapse for anything to get better, the structure is absolutely rotten, there's no turning back now.
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Them hiding the bulldyke and having dom and marcus front and center is so hilarious to me. Not even that backpedal could save them
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>>750650675
dunno what people expected
Its the same studio that killed JD in gear 5 to make it about a screeching woman and her mommy issues
why would they make the new game any less retarded if they got away with it last time?
if they dont get closed down the next game will be about marcus trooning out and having to take dilation breaks, they will double down as long as they are allowed
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>>750650125
You would end up with 2B if that were true because you are not taking into account all the other shit they did during those 7 years
>>750643109
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>>750651408
thats just cope, if you think 2 bilion seems like much, keep in mind microsoft spend 15 fucking bilion $ on xbox game studios in 2025 alone, and thats not including the 80 bilion $ then spend on aqusitions ( though 70 bilion of that was activision alone )
xbox as a whole is a fucking money black hole, but for a corporation that went from making 50 milion to half a trilion a year in last few years they dont care
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>>750651408
>>750652165
also if thats 2 bilion spread over 7 years, thats less than 1% of the costs of xbox division, which is less than 10% of microsoft spending, nobody there would even blink spending that when they are spending hundreds of billions a year, they make that back in a day or two
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>>750650125
It doesn't matter if a game costs 500 million or 1 billion. What matters is the game is actually great, the universe is cool, it has fun gameplay, there's no woke bullshit. Western developers fails all 4. GTA 6 is going to be shit too for the same reasons
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>>750621024
Those 500 million in production costs are going to the top end. When it fails they move onto the next company.
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>>750627164
this
Basically, all they need is a PR campaign aimed at the widest possible audience; the product itself and its quality have nothing to do with it - all these franchises are used like condoms to screw with people’s minds even more and even deeper.
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>>750652165
It does sound like much because Microsoft finally axed 343 after wasting around a billion in 10 years due Halo Infinite going overbudget with 500 million and the Halo remake that had around 200 budget plus marketing for each
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>>750652631
still if they released 3 games in that time there would be a chance that at lest one is good
instead its been 6 years since halo infinite, and there was no new halo games in the works when 343/halo studios got closed down, it would take like 15 years for a sequel to come out, 15 years is how longer than xbox, xbox360 and xbox one console generations took to come out
same goes for gears, 8 years since gears 5 only to release a prequel
more often releases would allow xbox to actually correct the curse early on and actually react to industry changes
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>>750621024
>Just make a fun game
they haven't made a fun game for over a decade
replaced fun with marketing budgets but now that jewish spell is wearing off
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>>750620965
>sold only on xbox and pc
>not on ps5
>day one gamepass
>multi is trash

if they had drop the game on both consoles, wait a week before dropping it on gamepass or even two weeks, the sales would have doubled
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>>750653298
343 did have a small team working on halo though, around 300 people, gears e day for some reason that nobody probably can explain needed 2 studios
being from poland myself i often wondered how people can fly can be the second largest game dev in poland barely behind cd project despite releasing 1 flop in span of 10 years, and opening 5 more sub studios in that time, turns out they had infinite money from microsoft
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>>750625115
You can also be one in that game retard.
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>>750629646
Taash's own quest gates roughly 70% of an entire huge-ass location, it's hilarious.
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>>750626046
She fits on top of my face.
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>>750620965
>$500 million in production costs
So you could make 40x Gears of Wars 1 instead.
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>>750622986
>day in the life of a product manager at xbox
>is useless
checks out
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They have fucked up Gears almost as bad as they mishandled Halo. Unbelievable.

How do you make poor decision after poor decision like this? The remake of 1 sold like hundreds of thousands on playstation, and they made this game exclusive ending up just costing them even more sales, but even then it wouldn't have mattered because there was no fucking way in hell a gears of war game was making back a HALF BILLION DOLLAR BUDGET in 2026.

Even I wouldn't have bought it, I have 0 interest in it. If they released a remake trilogy of the original games I might have bought that I guess and then maybe that would have kicked up a little bit more interest for a new Gears game. They are so goddamn stupid it's unbelievable how Xbox even still exists.

All of these companies are just shooting themselves in the mouth endlessly right now, stupid dipshit decision one after another fucking over the people who buy their games.
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>>750624837
>>750639754
E-Day is Gears 6. It's the reason they're trying to make a trilogy out of it. The original Gears 4, 5 and 6 plans fell through and they moved to a prequel trilogy. It's the same way Infinite is just Halo 6.
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>>750626483
This. Parasite people doing parasite things.
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>>750621024
i wonder ((who)) is funding these kinds of people??????????? ommmgg why isss thisss happeninnngng all of a sudden out of nowhere??
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>>750621152
bg3 was made as a good game and then pozzed on top, its not at its core woke
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>>750622986
replaced by ten H1B jeets lving in a single room

They will finish the job of making Xbox even worse.
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>>750621024
Cool it with the antisemitism
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>>750620965
Sheeeeit cracka, dassa not a lotta copies
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>>750621024
Their idea of fun is twisted and rotten. You cant reconcile being a talentless jeet or a woke moloch worshipper and making something timeless with cultural impact.
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>>750631095
>when does she actually do any real work?
Didn't you see her talking to the other girl and off screen people?
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>>750621024
Because they are unironic cultists, diehard recruits of marxist "school" of "thought" that invaded the american education system - it needs a thorough cleansing
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Nothing about that game feels like it costs that much. Nothing is particularly polished, nothing feels genre-defining, it just feels like another gears of war.
Where did the money go?
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>>750621024
made by communists. they don't care about profits or what customers wants. they're trying to push a message, not entertain.
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>>750623934
>only insofar as it remains profitable
well anon, it has not been profitable for more than a decade so you're wrong
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>>750661317
Ah yes, Microsoft corporation, known marxists
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>>750621681
Game studios, for whatever reason, hire fat retarded women to work there so their games always have fat retarded women characters because women can't write about anything they didn't experience personally first
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>according to this conveniently cropped twitter screencap (probably from soirat_nation) with no source or proof behind its claims, this thing that caters to your beliefs is totally true!
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>>750624038
>Grim
For them.
Not for us.
Best part is, I didn't even do anything.
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>>750627493
because they're not aaa
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People didn't like E-day? It's dope as hell what's wrong with chunking grubs like the old days?
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>>750621681
this is true. when there's a character creator I always make my characters beautiful because why the hell wouldn't I? even if I give them scars or whatever they're still cute. I haven't ever used a vitiligo/fat option/etc.
t. hag xx chromosome gurl gamer
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>>750664487
You're right, they're AAAA
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>>750664572
>blasthavers have entered the thread
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>>750664572
It's good but niggers blew out of proportion the drama surrouding a character like Mags acting like she's worse than she actually is, most expected a Marcus and Dom duo story when they actually got an ensemble story because the two new members of the group also get substantial roles in the campaign. Of the new OCs, Mags is the worst one but mostly because she has a lot of setup with zero pay off and talks too much without actually having a personality, she's not even a girlboss that talks down to others because of how much of a bland and sterile personality she has, barely anyone in the threads has actually talked about the real girlboss of the game, Gill the pilot because she appears in the middle of the game and at least she looks like a normal white girl.
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>>750623158
>No other industry do you shove in shit the customer didn't want and hate them for not accepting it.
banking
insurance
ISPs
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>>750625812
apparently less than 2 million people played it on gamepass
it seems like xboxers just don't give a fuck about gears
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>>750622018
They did notice that and will remove AAA games from day 1 or make it part of a more expensive tier
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>>750625901
>Yeah I get the rat behaviour of saying "it wasn't my fault! it was X fault" to shift the blame, but at the end of the day your career consisted in working exclusively on shitty games. I'd wager it would be more satisfying personally if the product I work on ends up being successfull

That requires shame. These people lack shame. It's an element of Narcissistic personality Disorder.
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>>750620965
I hope everyone involved in the layoffs has a very smooth transition into McDonalds/Suicide.
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>>750626513
At most they'll play multiplayer stuff that have clear healer/support positions (Overwatch, LoL, etc.) but those also have cute characters/outfits
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Did Gears 5 actually do better?
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>>750638496
Kait is way worse, she actually derailed the new trilogy by being Myrrah's granddaughter and Gears 5 sidelined JD HARD, with him having character development off-screen on top of losing his status as the playable character. Mags by comparasion is a side character with more focus than the other new character, Lucas but still ends up not doing much other that having too much backstory in the setting and being ugleh
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For me E Day was more about seeing the event unfold than the characters themselves though I did like the scenes with Marcus and Dom, yeah I would’ve preferred all og characters but I just wanted the spectacle of E Day. It’s like the modern Star Wars movies could be improved if they weren’t so derivative of the originals even if the characters suck, there’s literally nothing good there, at least E Day had a cool setting
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>>750669807
Kalona is a cool map yeah, this Gears has an underrated look of 70's civilian technology with gothic and art deco architecture plus the futuristic technology of the COG, the end of the game when the areas you were defending at the start were utterly destroyed were genuinely impressive
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>>750627372
Queen Estelle is saving RPGs with her big stick
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>>750670170
>>750627372
nihon falcom are like cockroaches. can't kill them and they keep coming back.
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>>750670212
They make cute girls. That's how you survive. Girl power.
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>>750620965
i hope they die harder than bioware just did
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So there's zero chance they don't get shut down right? Halo remake sold much better on a smaller budget and it failed so badly they had mass layoffs and lost the entire halo IP
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>>750630464
>>750630654
Active reload is a fucking dogshit mechanic that exists only so you don't fall asleep. It's the equivalent to jangling keys in front of you while going "please be engaged"
It added nothing to Gears. The risk/reward factor is fucking laughable when the skill involved is pressing a button within a timer.
I'll gladly trade it for a universally shortened time to reload any day of the fucking week.
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>>750622341
Years ago the game of a horse with a human head was the most popular game with a female audience.
Women has bad tastes.
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>>750620965
layoffs are coming.
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>>750622901
Every woman SCREAM when they see a spider or a rat. For DEI's people they scream because the patriarchy is ruining her lives.
So yeah it’s a trope , but kinda based on some reality, although exaggerated.
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>>750620965
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>>750620965
>half a billi
>before marketing
Nigga...
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>>750621309
Not a single game in the franchise had close the amount of budget this game has. And for what? This game is literally inferior to most of the previous titles.
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>>750620965
>Just weeks ago Xbox niggers thought this wokeslop was going to turn everything around for their faggot console
loving every laugh
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>>750624406
Still would have minimized the damage
>bu bu bu muh brand rebuild muh reset muh lack of supply
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>>750621024
Theres a very poignant saying Jon Taffer has in bar rescue when he's dealing with a beligerent self-sabotaging owner. He has a zero tolerance policy for drinking on the job and he will often threaten to walk out on the rescue if he sees the owner take a drink in front of him.
He says something like, "His house is on the line. He's gonna lose his bar, but his next drink is more important to him."
And i think thats how a lot of these dev studios operate unironically. Propaganda is more important to them than their job.
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>>750653606
Halo studios had like 4 different projects that microsoft witnessed and instantly told them to kill it. I couldnt imagine being so incompetent that a tasteless and mercenary company like microsoft tells you everything you make is so shit they dont even want it.
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Here's the real question.
What's truly to blame? Easy to throw the blame on Mags but she was hidden decently enough.
Did Gears 5 really kill player faith that bad?
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>>750622901
>>750622831
>screaming until you pass out in the school bathroom trying to go super saiyan was based
>but women doing that... i-it makes me mad!
Grow up
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It's pretty grim that the latest COD had less foidshit than E Day.
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>>750631815
To be fair, coalition are a bunch of engineers that build and troubleshoot in-house engines for other xbox studios. the 500 million is likely including all the salaries paid to coalition team members who were stuck working on making halo infinite a working product or transitioning it to UE5 a few years later. I could see gears being delayed and back burner'd a handful of times while the coalition was busy supporting other xbox projects
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>>750642192
you can go watch the talk yourself, that's straight from a slide in it
https://youtu.be/QT1BD8bP9-E?si=InikgWE7WlHG0NWY&t=117
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>>750636261
names that end in A are girl names
>b-b-but
names that end in A are girl names. If your name ends in A I'm going to fuck you and I'm not gay.
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>>750663805
you understand people work for Microsoft and try to push their own agendas from the inside, right?
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>>750623180
>Coalition is Canadian. So was Bioware. So is Sweet Baby Inc,
>Ubisolft and Dontnod are French.
>Machine Games is from Sweden,
>Guerilla is Netherlands
>Ninja Theory is UK, so is Rocksteady

So much for your theory.
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>>750620965
>no you don't get it most of the audience wants gay and lame lesbian girl bosses
>sell jack shit

you know, im starting to think these consultants are not trustworthy,
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