>loremaster Kurt Kuhlmann gone>the lore is now in the hands of Emil and Veilguard writers>they're gonna "explain" the Scrolls themselves>expect consuming Scrolls instead of dragon souls in Sentinel to unlock powersNever been more over.
>>750620960>Veilguard writersStill hilarious to me how brainlets celebrate Bioware closing like it's "the end of woke" when all the mentally ill devs just instantly get rehired somewhere else, like all the other times this has happened btw.
>>750620960press z to sword-sing
>>750620960Lorefags, realistically what's the stupidest thing Emil could do? I don't know Elder Scrolls lore as much as Fallout, but his contributions to Fallout don't give me much hope for the story.
>>750621194give it time. /our/girl sharma gon rape them good
>>750622338I mean, "uncovering the secrets of the Scrolls" already sounds retarded. It's like these people can't think beyond the surface level at all.
>>750622662And I bet they are feeling like geniuses.>woowie zowiers the game is called Elder Scrolls™, but nobody ever thought of writing about magic scrolls before!
I think everything after Morrowind is non canon joke anyway so Bethesda's audience will enjoy it just like they enjoyed oblivion, Skyrim and fo3 and fo4 lore
>>750620960You dumbasses need to look at ESO.Official Elder Scrolls lore has been woke for years now. They've created girl bosses that overshadow badasses but was forgotten by history, they added trannies, they've made non binary canon.Elder Scrolls has been woke for years. I don't care for the franchise or IP anymore, I just can't wait for the meltdown and Bethesda layoffs when everyone else catches on to the fact that TES has been made woke.
>>750620960>no Jeremy SouleIt was over before it even began
>>750624456What? Why?
>>750620960They're gonna remove skill leveling and replace it with basic XP gain.
>>750624502Back when metoo was a thing some woman accused him of sexual assault, Bethesda dropped him for just the accusation because as I said >>750624429, they're woke. Then he crowd funded an album but didn't produce the music for years and when he finally did it was nothing like he promised.>>750624456Has he done anything big since the crowdfunding shit? It's been 8 years since then, he's finished.
>>750624456Jeremy Soule isn't doing the soundtrack? Really?Okay I don't care about this game anymore, I know the atmosphere is gonna be some cheap UE5 dogshit like Oblivion remake. Genuinely some morale shattering news.
>>750624456Skyrim soundtrack was pretty forgettable anyway. It had no bangers like harvest down or glory of cyrodiil
>>750622487Well so far we've only seen her rape studios not individuals or groups
>>750620960>shitskin setting>shitskin cargocult devs
>>750624429I've only played eso for like 12 hours and I saw enough to know it's genuinely over
>>750625897Secunda, Wind Guide You and From Past to Present are still good songs. Minstrels Lament, Auriel's Ascension and King and Country are amongst the best ones from the previous game.
>>750622662How exactly does one "uncover the secrets" to a piece of literal knowledge given a physical form? Doubly so in that if you already know what an Elder Scroll is but are unprepared to read it, it takes your sight from you (at minimum) as a price for the knowledge you gain. Or it could do nothing if you don't even know what an Elder Scroll is.
>>750624620See >>750624610He got the chop years ago and hasn't been seen since.
>>750620960How long is it going to take them to add proper modding support this time around?
>>750621194Definitely a good thing that Bioware is gone but it's not the end. Bethesda and a hundred others need to go as well until there are no companies left who will hire them.
>>750620960Aren't most of the scrolls in Cyrodiil? Why would a game centered on them be in Hammerfell
>>750626106It's going to be a long time. Those faggots have made an internal black list of all the people they already know they won't hire for wrong think but will absolutely hire on the same rats that sank the previous ship without a hint of irony.
>>750624456Damn that sucks
>>750625897There are composers who can produce better "bangers" than Soule, but you will struggle to find any that knows how to make atmospheric songs as well as he does. His absence is going to be something everyone is going to feel cause the atmosphere of the world is going to be very different without him.
>>750622662Aren't the Elder Scrolls some type of metaphysical artifacts that control all reality or have the entirety of the future written down? Kinda like Runes in Norse Mythology? Being able to read them normally like they're just a piece of paper seems kinda dumb.
>>750626564They're a literal piece of knowledge given form, and how valuable they are is predicated on the person holding it even knowing what they are to begin with. If you're some retard or bum fuck farmer in Colovia it's just going to look like a big ass scroll with some strange squiggles on it.
>>750626443even ai can make better songs
>The Elder Scrolls goes until Oblivion before a single Elder Scroll is ever seen>it's used in a very specific circumstance to rewrite the history of who actually stole the cowl of Nocturnalnow they are being used as random key items for random purposes
>>750626153no, there is an offhanded line in skyrim that says that the scrolls disappeared from white-gold tower and were scattered across nirn by forces unknown before the aldmeri dominion captured it. i think that the moth priest in dawnguard says it. apparently even the scrolls are anti-elf.
Meh. Can't be much worse than previous examples of Bethesda writing.
>>750627356Because nu-writers can't think beyond the title, so it's "hmm, the series title is Elder Scrolls, so we need to have scrolls" for them.
>>750622338Making a game about "uncovering the secrets of the Scrolls" is by itself on the same level of bad as making a game where the Dwemer return and everything above their disappearance gets explained
>>750620960>veilguard writers>Plural They just hired the last white guy left at Bioware who created Garrus.
>>750627356There was clearly a moment during Skyrim's development when some dev Bethesda said>um guys, the series is literally called "The Elder Scrolls", shouldn't the titular elder scrolls play a more central role? it's what the people expect.
>>750620960>they're gonna "explain" the Scrolls themselvesAren't the Elder Scrolls just random scrolls stolen from Jyggalag's library because Jyggalag calculated everything that would ever happen and wrote it down?
>uncovering the secrets of the ScrollsFor the love of God, why do game studios hire the absolute worst incompetent "writers" every time?
>>750628653No. Their entire point is that they're mysterious and have seemingly existed by themselves since the beginning of time. That sounds like some weird headcanon. I wouldn't be surprised if TES VI invented some cringe backstory of that caliber though
>>750627356>artifacts get used more as more are discovered
>>750628820TES canon ain't real, there is only Morrowind vs assorted flavours of slop.
>>750620960It was over the moment that retard Howard said he's going to use their dogshit outdated engine for tes6, worked out great for shitfield, didn't it?
>>750628936All the Elder Scrolls are and always have been kept in the White-Gold Tower until Skyrim, they aren't being "discovered".
>>750627356Elder Scrolls were just consulted randomly to find the locations of places in Arena
>>750624456he was already washed in skyrim, oblivion is last time he made good ost
>>750628936yeah thing is that before skyrim they all vanished so there is less of them if anything
>>750629073Arena isn't canon.
>>750629045Starfields problems have nothing to do with the engine you absolute midwit
>>750629045What was the issue? their engine was fantastic and it's still the best game engine for open world games and mods and Bethesda are masters of using it. Why do you want them to swap to UE5?
>>750628985You Morrowfags are the worst.I'm glad all the other games since have outsold your slop.
>>750629045Starfield is mechanically the best game they ever released, Snoy.
>>750627702>>750627745
If Nu-bethesda wrote Daggerfall it would be the Agent's use of an Elder Scroll that caused the Numidium to warp time and have every ending happen at onceIf Nu-Bethesda wrote Morrowind there would be a point in the main quest where instead of gathering the tools of kagrenac Uriel Septim ships you an elder scroll to banish Dagoth Ur withIf Nu-Bethesda wrote Oblivion's main quest Martin Septim would only be able to become an Avatar of Akatosh by reading an elder scroll first
honestly I don't care about story and nulore anymore, I just want sandbox to immerse myself in with hardcore survival mods and such but modern. like I don't know sailing and building a base on some procedurally generated island because that's what todd will releaseI already have morrowind if I want a good game, they will never get close to that again
>>750626153>It turns out that the Redguard made all of them>Redguards were the original man>Imperials covered up that the original emperor was a Redguard, Nords worked with them as invaders to take away their history>The Elder Scrolls are just in the language of the Redguard that racist elves took from them>Game starts with a redguard being detained by altmer kneeling on his neck, creating riots and you have to hit a button to be the first one to throw a brick>Your character makes a quip like "I think we're back." >Title drop
>>750628764you're rightthey should use Kirkbride>and then you were the HoonDing and you used your curved lower-sword (that means penis) to fuck your lower-shield (that means vagina) in a form of sword-singing to summon the Daedra Brahma who is actually an anticipation of the incarnation of the Daedra Mephala from the future-weave to destroy the Empire's spaceship and then Vivec shows up and swordfights your BBLS (big black lower-sword) (you're transformed into a Redguard when you pierce your lower-shield) with his spear (that's his penis) until you fuse to become the HoonVic and ascend through the fourth veil and use your double-bladed sword (you have both penises now) to fuck a Jill (that's a female dragon) until she cums and causes a Dragon Break and sends you to the moon where all the Dunmer live now>and also Azura gets raped and killed and then raped and resurrected and killed and raped again
>>750628764the franchise's stories have heavily involved the elder scrolls since skyrim. one gets used to send alduin forward in time, one's in the dawnguard DLC, pretty sure vanilla ESO's retarded main quest revolves around them, etc. you can't really blame new hires for it, it's clearly something bethesda decided on like 17 years ago
>>750620960>muh loreCouldn't care less. TES has been a modding platform since Oblivion. All i want is a huge world with a few restrictions as possible and a very powerful toolkit. People haven't been playing Skyrim and Fallout 4 for almost 2 decades because they have well written and deep lore.
TES lore has been fucking dogshit since Oblivion but you faggots still aren't ready for that revelation.
>>750620960It's funny how there's always one thing that things like predictions and fake leaks miss. Over the years the story section of every fake TES VI leak on /v/ was like "the game will be about defending the last tower from the thalmor!" or "it will be about the numidium!", literally nobody in all these 15 years ever thought a game set in hammerfell would focus on the elder scrolls themselves of all things, rightfully so.
Reminder that TES lorefags are retarded and don't actually play their games.They literally believed a fake concept (The Thalmor want to destroy the Towers and unmake the world!) that some random guy put onto a wiki so much that they still spread it to this day even after it was completely debunked as having literally no basis in anything in any of the games.
>>750629769the tower theory is a skyrim normalfag thing tho, most actual lore autists scoff at it for precisely that reason
>>750629506ESO doesn't count, first of all. Second, getting a Moth priest to decipher part of an Elder Scroll for a particular purpose is a far cry from ruining a specifically obscure and unknowably arcane facet of the lore by "explaining" it like the article title implies.
>>750629831They only scoff at it now after a guy on their subreddit proved it was bullshit.They were happy to believe it and spread it until then because they don't actually touch the source material and just get all their knowledge of The Elder Scrolls from wikis.
>>750620960they will be revealed to have been written by redguard kangs and where stolen by evil whitey or something predictable like that
>>750629769The very first text you came across in Skyrim references towers and other stuff.
>>750629506I don't remember any in vanilla ESO main quest, if anything only in pvp acting kinda as buffs for a side that holds them or something without any explanationfirst expansion have one speed up planemeld I suppose
>>750625897You're wrong
>>750629045The problem isnt the engine. The problem is rha shartesta are shit at coding/designing.
>>750629963>the Bosmer don't want to form a twerk team with the Falmer>but Falmer and other stuff are in the game?
>>750629889Why do you leftists keep wanting to put in nigger worship in video games?
>>750628506Todd is still there and I have faith he would stop them from doing something that stupid
>>750622338Explain what the fuck happened to the dwarves.
>>750620960lel it's gonna be even worse then expected
>>750622338>realistically what's the stupidest thing Emil could do?You can look at the boobies and ignore the spoiler on or open the spoiler and despair, your choice.The Elder Scrolls are book from our world, just imagine how much damage you could cause with it to the franchise.
>>750629045engine is the one thing that isn't a problem, unless you want it to be tight UE5 game without any mods
>>750629889doesn't old lore already jerk the Redguards off as the super duper god tier warriors who were able genocide an entire giant empire of elves and murder or enslave everyone native to Hammerfell and shit like that as soon as soon as they arrived to the continent after their people were fucked up by their nation sinking?
>>750627214>even ai can make better songs
>>750622338Alan Nanes is the lead on TES6, not Emil
>>750620960so you're gonna be some super speshul chosen one faggot that can read the scrolls without going blind and crazy, I bet.
>>750630610Hammerfell is the largest province on the continent. They could probably take the Dominion 1 on 1
I am not going to play it. It's been too long. Things have changed. Mod scene is nothing like it used to be.
>>750620960This game will be Starfield with shouts and dragons. Dead IP, dead company.
>>750630748>They could probably take the Dominion 1 on 1The Dominion tore through like half their province while fighting the Empire before being barely pushed out with Imperial Legion support.
>elder scroll redguards>woke era is over, but just like sony and the intergalactic prophet game, they're too deep into development to cancel now>still on the old ass broken ass jank engine>gameplay will be dumbed down even further>only four skill trees - warrior, mage, thief and crafting>you start the game with an immortal companion>he will always get you up if you take fatal damage
>>750630821>Starfield with shoutsstarfield had shouts?
>people want them to change off their engineTheir engine enables the massive modding scene that has kept Skyrim and Fallout 4 alive.
>>750629045you made jeets very angry with this one lel
>>750630748Half the province is a huge desert.
>>750630954I guess people just didn't learn after that unreal slop disaster oblivion remake.
>>750620960No one cares about the story. The game series is about exploring the world, defeating enemies and gathering gear.
>>750630856yes unironically mechanically the same thing
>>750631050ngl those niggers had balls when they called the player "starborn"
>>750631046>absolutely mindless NPC nigger cattle like this are betheslop target audience
>>750622662>these people can't think beyond the surface level at allYou've got it backwards. Doesn't matter if they can or not, the game is aimed at the general population who can't because they're more profitable
>Skyrim still gets like 40k players daily on Steamhow the fuck has it stayed so popular so long?I know it was a big cultural deal with it spawning a bunch of memes that even broke into normal culture, but I would have thought it would have fallen way off and not still be one of the most played games on Steam
>>750631164Stop huffing your farts. If you want a good story go watch netflix.
>>750631258no competition in the same niche
>>750631258Because it's easy as shit to get into, because the gameplay is like fastfood. It's old enough to run on everyones computer. It's kinda like asking why football/soccer is so popular. There are a billion of mods, so you can have the game looking like whatever you want as well.
>>750631258modsthats literally it, vanilla wise it was surpassed long time ago.
>>750621194Okay, but at least it's public information that we can use to make an informed decision i.e. refusing to play Sentinel, just like I refused to play Veilguard. We all know how that turned out.
>>750621194The purge has to start somewhere, Anon. As the rats flee the sinking ship, all you have to do is follow them to their new homes, and set those to the flame as well
>>750620960I can't imagine how soulless it will be after F4 and saarfield, Skyrim has its flaws, like the main story is underbaked, side quests are mostly meh and the civil war is unfinished as fuck but it still had a semblance of soul and effort put into it.
>>750624456this post best posthope that whore that falsely metoo'd him is happy
>there are genuinely people who prefer oblivion music over skyrim music
>>750630568>spoilerDoesn't sound too far fetched when you consider that lore bit about how the entire TES universe is the schizoid dream of The Godhead.
>>750629045>>750630992anyone that doesn't want the engine is a subhuman nigger with no soul, THERE IS NO BETHESDA-LIKE without GAMEBRYO, SIMPLE FUCKING AS, you stupid niggerfaggots. Mod support is what has made these games endlessly replayable, UE5 is dogshit.
>>750632070cool now show me a good bethesda game released with creation engine post Skyrim
>>750631936i like both
>loremaster Kurt Kuhlmann goneGood, his idea for the plot of The Elder Scrolls VI was retarded.
>>750625897>>750626036No other song embodies a winter's night like secunda.
It was pretty clear after Fallout 76 and Starfield that the company had completely lost the plot. At this point, it'd be a success if the next TES game even managed to meet the already low expectations set by its older entries.Microsoft shouldn't wait for that disaster to happen. They should just dismantle the company and let everyone go.
>>750620960>>the lore is now in the hands of Emil and Veilguard writers>>they're gonna "explain" the Scrolls themselvesi can already tell the plot will be extremely midwit followed by some key point where you'll have to clear out five or six dungeons and repeatedly activate some kind of gutenberg printing press, almost just like in starfield, just fire emil already, he's been pretty subtle about it
>>750624456This is the hell this industry gets to live in. They cancelled everybody with talent. Now they only have jeets to make TES VI for them. Best of luck.
>>750624304Morroboomer detected
>>750620960>EmilIs he the only person working there? Why hire him again after Wokefield?
>morrowind>good lorelots of consolebabs around here huh
>>750633342I think TES6 is their last chance to prove that they still got it. If it flops, Bethesda is next on the chopping block. Hopefully they realized, after Starfield, that no-one wants a bunch of checkboxes in their games, but I think the rot is too deep
Nobody wants to play an RPG where 90% of NPCs are niggers
>>750632636Fallout 4, Starfield
>>750633909Morrowind is exactly that.
>>750620960>HammerfellLmao here we go again
>>750634045Hammerfell at least has a warrior culture and piracyMorrowind is just a bunch of losers with black lungs from inhaling ash all the time acting like they're superior while their "gods" licked Tiber Septim's scrote and gave him a WMD so he wouldn't rape their province
>>750633823he's Todd's friend
>>750633909>>750634045
>>750620960>secrets of the scrollssounds like a lost harry potter
how good do the aesthetics need to be for the game to not be a disaster? starfield obviously wasn't good enough.
>>750620960>Veilguard writersDidn't they all get laid off?
>>750620960>they will turn TES VI into Starshit V2 with retarded boring quests "go to point B to recover the artifact (elder scroll)" shitIt's fucked, isn't it? And also it takes place in Redguard regions, so i can bet instead of some cool desert architecture and clothing we will get some pseudo nu-niggers to appeal to modern US niggers
>>750634442
>>750634728Bethesda hired some before Bioware even closed.
>>750634442You fucking dingbats can't even keep that shit straight - the friend that got hired was Steve Meister who was an animator. He was the scarecrow that people would bandy about for scorn because of the jank animations in oblivion.
this experience but TES is all I want from a Hammerfell game
>>750634728They did and went to work for wizards of the coast along with some going to Bethesda.
>>750634758>go to point B to recover the artifactnigga, that's been the Elder Scrolls formula since Day 1
>>750620960TES6 is probably still far, far from done which is why it's so concerningAsha must have knocked on their door and told them "you have 2 years" so they have to now rush the shit out of the project they've been slacking off on which is why making it boring and bland was once facultative is now mandatory to get it out on time
>>750620960>>they're gonna "explain" the Scrolls themselvesunironically had alarm bells going off in my head when i read this. ancient artifacts don't need a justification to exist, and it's pretty plausible that people living in the equivalent of the middle ages + a lil bit of magic on top don't have the ability to uncover all the secrets of the world. mysteries should stay mysterious. at most, a tiny glimpse of lorkhan to prove he's existing but dormant, but the rest is a big no no.in my memory, writers who suddenly beat around the bush about setting gimmicks like that are unable to come up with a good overarching story for the setting altogether.
>>750634859Wow it’s just like skyrims 11/11/11 release all over again
>>750634758You are most likely right.
>>750634818But the layoffs just happened last week. Doesn't Bethesda already have writers?Sauce, please.
>>750634832At least in Oblivion, it was "go from point A to point B, then make it rain burning wolves"
>>750634832I know, but there always were overlooming world ending threat with faction wars and so on, like dragons and nords in skyrim. Making an entire game about the scrolls themselves as the center point will just turn it into Starshit V2.
>>750634327Redguards are the least intelligent race in TES. This is established in the lore.
>>750634904They're aiming for that 26/26/26. In other words, 2028-02-26
>>750634987yeah, Oblivon is a clear outlier when it comes to quests
>>750633147I always associate snow nights with the BGM from Arenahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzQRxZkHun4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgu9HdELrg4
>>750634896Yes, exactly.The worse thing they could do is start stripping away all the mystery and esotericism from the setting.Leave the more "concrete" explanation to unofficial sources such as Kirkbride's ramblings and shit.
>>750635108American audiences are too dumb for any kind of subtlety, if they don't get everything handed to them on a platter they get confused and angry.
>>750626153shieeet the reggas stole all the scrolls
>>750630954tech illiterate goyim are the worst fanbase you could possibly have
>>750635108Has the TES esoteric lore been well utilized within the experience of playing the games in recent years, or it's just window dressing for the fans to write fanfiction on reddit? Does ESO use it in any interesting way? Did that flopped card game?
>>750620960>emilcan't want to become scrollborn at the end of the game
Looking forward to pirating your game Todd!
>>750620960Not interested in discussing metaphysics and abstract concepts in an alternate universe magic game w/ talking dragons and undead.
>>750624610You fags know WHERE Bethesda main dev is located isnt it?YOU FAGS REALLY KNOW THE HELLHOLE OF A DICTATORSHIP STATE they are located isnt it?
>>750635319Sorry kid, TES VI will use the Microsoft Flight Simulator tech, you need to be always online to play it.
>>750635232Sotha Sil's dialogue about prison in ESO is one example.
>>750635049that's actually Nords
>>750629114Arena is canon, Ocato was the Eternal Champion.
>>750635394This made me realize the clockwork DLC released 9 years ago
>>750635404Both races have -10 INT on both sex.
>>750629045We found the UE5JEET
>>750634026i said good games stupid shill
>>750620960Every dirty kike needs its throat cutting
>>750635404Wrong, they're both drooling retards just like male orcs. Female orcesses ofc are perfect creations.
>>750635394And Kirkbride wrote that
>>750635108>caring about kikebride's shit lore
>>750635575And yet even his worst writings are infinitely more interesting than Emil's "best" work.
>>750635510>of average intelligence>but people like them lessMalacath forbid a mer be smart enough to know people be hatin her just for bein green
>brownoids still think engine isn't the problemlol lmaolook at saarfield and console versions of Skyrim then, now that isn't to say they should switch to UE5 like the jeets here are crying about, they should just finally rework the entire engine to its core>inb4 Creation Engine 2same shit
>>750635647>dude! it's so INTERESTING!>*nonsensical word salad and sex*
>>750635734Bethesda's problem is that all their senior and lead positions are filled with fat and tired middle aged devs who are being paid too much. Their skill sets have long since languished and they're incapable of modernizing the engine properly - they never had Carmack-tier geniuses working for them to begin with.
>>750634774Sauce?
>>750635232>Did that flopped card game?goodness no. they even tried to nerf the great war down to being all thanks to thalmor general naarifin having a scrying ball in his possession rather than the dominion succeeding thanks to centuries of careful preparations. likewise, it's not the emperor who ends up defeating him, but the protagonist/player, of course.alas, it's saving grace is that the game was called "legends", after all. so you are free to choose whether you accept it as what actually happened or not. personally i choose "not" because, again, don't want neither the military prowess of the dominion nor the empire to be all thanks to 1 gimmick/1 dude.
>>750635840John Dombrow is his name.
>>750635510>Female orcesses ofc are perfect creationsAs if that even needed to be said
>>750635860>nor the empiretbf that's kinda their thingevery game has been the Empire winning because of 1 dude and their most famous historical figure is the biggest 1 dude in the setting's history
>>750635910Just one? OP used the plural.
I am really starting to believe that the anti bethesda fags are literally the mix of Blizzdrones and Blizzard employees who hates bethesda because TES and Fallout stole all the thunder wow had and is more remembered by normalfags and grognards than warcraft, starcraft and diablo.And ive been hearing this for years even at PAX conventions.
>>750635972He wasn't tho, Talos was a career politician who immediately retired from doing anything himself the second he got the Imperial city to surrender and spent the rest of his reign sending Zurin Arctus and Wulfharth to do the important shit for him. In that sense he's closer to Uriel VII than a player character
>>750620960>Niggerfell>Failguard writers>literally no SouleNot even mods can save it.
>>750635990Modern Blizzard sucks. Modern Bethesda sucks. Now what, you cuck?
>>750635990what
>>750632956Compared to what we'll get, it might as well have been War & Peace.
>>750636152i think i've seen posts like that in the past being made in response to TES fans saying that the elder scrolls online is bad, so i reckon that guy is one of them MMO console warriors who thinks the TES franchise is now defined by its place in the MMO market
>>750634794they can unironically go all out with exotic stuff and not tap into the woke bucket because redguards have been a part of the setting for decades and haven't been tainted by woke-mandatory posturing and virtue signalling (of course, veilguard writers might change that...).>africa aesthetics>arab aesthetics, especially in desert areas>seething racism against imperials is okay because of titus mede II ditching the kingdom to appease the elves>seething racism against altmer is okay because they ruined half the province during their conquest attemptif they're not too puritan and don't mind a little sex appeal in TES6 they could include belly dancers, but realistically i think this will be something the modders might wanna tackle. pirates can be a big thing because they have a history of messing with altmeri shipping so they'll definitely clash off-shore. would be interesting to see if stros m'kai is considered some sort of neutral meeting ground for both, at least they named their treaty after that island.
>>750636270>Help Jamal find a ring so he can propose to Derik>Make Ulfric see the positives in multiculturalism>Give Saadia a weapon so she can best Malik and prove herself as a warrior
>>750636270>Bethesda>interesting lore decisionslol, lmao. Do you think Todd and co suddenly developed introspection after not realising what they've done to their franchise the past 20 years?I want to be positive and believe in this game, but there's just no way it won't be dogwater when it comes to interesting worldbuilding.
I want playable Maormer.It's been over two decades since the last race was added and there's like a dozen other peoples who are just roaming about the setting. It's time to expand the roster again.
>>750635495Starfield is not merely good, it's incredible and absolutely amazing.
>>750636531
>>750636531It's a worse game than Freelancer and that came out over 20 years ago.
>>750636270In the same way that Skyrim overhauled Nord lore and culture to have the game be about Dragons and Talos Worship, the only Redguard lore they'll bother with in this game is retconning it so their history and culture can revolve around the elder scrolls
>>750636597Todd has this framed in his office.
>>750636469>shitting on redguards>doesn't mention nazeemyou had one job, anon.
>>750635910>Wrote Garrus and Javik>two of the best written characters in Mass effectWhat's the issue here? He sounds like a great pickup.
>>750621194I’m more amazed how our entire society just allows people to fail upward forever if you’re not part of the unchosen working class mass.
>>750633843>TES6 is their last chance to prove they still got it>no actually Fallout 5 is the last last chance, this time for real>nono hear me out actually Starfield 2 is the LAST last chance to finally prove they still got it
>>750636718Shartfield's never getting a sequel.
>>750635810Bethesda's issue is the same as gamefreak really. It's all old men who are near retirement age who's only really made one game all their lives. You really cant expect anything out of them and despite all the bitching and whining, all the gamefreak and bethesda games still sell insane numbers anyways.
>>750636718No, it is TES6 is there last chance; all their other projects are too far out due to how long the development time is
>>750635495starfield wasn't a timeless classic but it didn't suck as hard as the rest of the AAA industry
>>750636598Freelancer is a good game and so is Starfield, I enjoy both space games.
So any chance they reveal it at the game awards this years this basically the most hype game like gta6
>>750636761Watch as they announce Starfield 2 for 2035 after Fallout 5 comes out.
Remember when people were coping really hard as they watched Bethesda failing again and again?>Bethesda would never ruin TES>unlike Fallout, TES is their pet project
>>750636646those two aspects are okay because why wouldn't dragons be the main topic when they just showed up and burn down a town, and the talos topic is likewise important in that time because of the thalmor crackdown. it's more of a problem of the *scope* of the writing, which yes, could be expanded. but that might be limited still because any given settlement has like 30 NPCs, most of them minor vendors and the like. but i don't want to get into this topic too far, eventually it just opens up the can of worms that is quest writing and boom.>>750636705wokies naturally try to help each other out. when you and your buddies infiltrate HR in multiple studios and one of those studios tanks, no problem, just call your buddy and he'll set you up with a new job where you do nothing but actively harm their employer. and said employers deserve bankruptcy for not keeping an eye on game development and weeding out the woke scum during pre-production.
>>750636082Only a blizzdrone would say that to blend in.>>750636152Long story short, before Skyrim, WoW was the normalfag n1 game, same goes even to blizzdrone grognards who used to raid and kill everything that would "threat" daddy blizzard's dominance everywhere, tortanic and other games as such, in part blizzard themselves doing so, or paying journos or people to do so, literal industrial sabotage level shit under activision's now deep pockets to do so, because activision did that a lot, even against id when they went to zenimax to save themselves of going to the CoD mines.Then comes Bethesda, with a game people early on when the og trailer came out "dismissed" because "meh it is running on the coattails of dragon age origins and now wow cataclysm" and after fallout 3 and obsidian with new vegas, with zero prospects of being a HUGE success that it would be because it was the early 2010's, and skyward sword as other big hits came out.Then E3 2011 happens, and the final trailer as gameplay comes out as all todd said, it was a chain reaction of events that not only it killed every game around it, it also Killed WoW and Blizzard at the primordial level, because Diablo 3 came after it and cataclysm took a such player dropout after it that it is still studied til this day, Starcraft was executed with HOTS.2011 was the year where the rules changed, all thanks to Bethesda, it was the year Blizzard and Metzen were replaced by Bethesda and Todd Howard.The same company Blizzard tried to buy to set foot at the east coast years ago when they were at their last legs, and saved themselves with Morrowind, because blizzard would literally have them cancel that game.
>>750636676I know almost nothing about TES lore in general
>>750637079Dragons showing up and burning down a town has nothing to do with the fact that things like the dragon cult, dragon priests and the concept of the thu'um being dragon language literally did not exist at all before TES V, and the only reason they did is because they wanted the game to be about Dragons. TES V could have taken place in Valenwood and Bethesda would have thought up a way to have the Bosmer have a special relationship with dragons and to have the wild hunt be related to dragons. The Talos plot is also pretty forced, since before TES V the Nords had their own religion separate from the Imperial Nine Divines
>>750636718Starfield is *why* TES6 is their last chance. FO4 and 76 still did okay, despite what you might personally think about them
I really enjoy looking into the lore of the franchise prior to a game, and see just how much Bethesda retconned.Recently checked Skyrim, and before the game came out, the only two sources for Alduin defined it as either an all consuming firestorm from Akatosh, or Akatosh himself coming down on the world.Instead we got generic dragon but with i-frames.
>>750637328>have the Bosmer have a special relationship with dragons and to have the wild hunt be related to dragonsdragons are beastsBosmer revert to shifting primordial beasts when they Huntsome Bosmer with a draconic soul would revert to proto-draconic beasts when a Hunt is called and modern dragons originate from an ancient Hunt like all other beasts
>>750637328well yes, dragons are the big theme of skyrim. you play as the dragonborn anon, remember? of course you're supposed to go after the flying lizards. even got the blades crawling out of their holes to hold your hand while you learn how to shout and stuff. if you don't like the central plot of the game that's on you. as for nord religion; kyne and shor's names do get dropped every once in a while, but yeah, could have given them more presence. funny how just worshipping shor instead of talos is essentially a roundabout way to worship lorkhan/a pro-human deity anyway.
>>750637342So we're just gonna ignore the piece of trash Starfield was, both surface level writing and deep game design in general, and just slop up TES like nothing happened? How many times they have to cheat on you before you finally realize you're a cuck?
>>750637598What? Didn't you read what I wrote? I said that, if TES6 is shit, Bethesda will likely be shut down, because after Starfield being shit they don't have any lifelines left
>>750620960So which world ending big bad we'll be facing this time
>>750637690Nerevarine is invading with an army from Akavir.
>>750637707Lorelet here what does this mean
>>750637707Not interested in being creative in an universe with magic dragons and talking undeads.
>>750637683Oh yeah I guess, I wasn't talking about them closing, I was talking about TES6 having any chance of being good at all, Starfield was more than enough proof.
>>750620960Are we being a prisoner again or they'll change that
>>750637328>before TES V the Nords had their own religion separate fromThis is the biggest psyop shizophrenia that exists in lore community.Nordic religion before Skyrim was the most underdeveloped faith system prior to release of Skyrim, THEN Michael Kirkbride created a nordic religion design document FOR SKYRIM and people entered a mandella effect style shizophrenia where they think that the design document made for SKYRIM was the lore all along because that design document is good.Then Bethesda proceeded to use almost nothing from design document in Skyrim and instead made it so that all of the faith in the design document happened in past delegating it instead to past like ESO period.
>>750637179And yes, blizzard hated losing bethesda internally, can you imagine losing morrowind, the game who literally won every game award avaliable at that time even in japan, because blizzard north who was the people owning your company down even to administrate decisions because your own ceo couldn't administrate for shit that was morhaine, had a tantrum fit over their funds who going to the cancelled vaporware that was the original diablo 3, going to a company who was considered in their eyes "inferior"? i wouldn't be surprised if this was the catalyst for morhaine firing brevik and bill roper and shitting down north, since brevik also had starcraft ghost delayed, remade in another company and cancelled, losing the window of early ps2, GC and xbox releases and become a favorite nowadays.Can you imagine the psychological damage this shit did at irvine? because this also explains the rocky shitshow that was WoW and War3 development down even to both games even to maps looking like they weren't made in collab at their own offices.>>750637782c0DA shit mixed with the original concept for skyrim where Uriel V would return as a immortal japanese vampire leading his army of >pic related tsaesci riding dragons to invade tamriel.everyone agreed it would be bullshit
>>750637572It's not a matter of liking or disliking. I'm just telling you the objective fact that everything about Skyrim's dragon lore is a result of the fact that Bethesda wanted to make a game about Dragons after they finally got confident in the technology to do so, and that to do that they needed to retcon away aspects of both Nord lore and the lore that existed about Dragons before TES V.In pre-skyrim lore, the thu'um was just Nordic weather and voice magic and a wider part of their wind and sky theme. It had nothing to do with dragons. The way it was described in older lore quite evidently did not accommodate for the idea that you need to say specific words in the dragon language for your shout spell to come out.Dragons themselves in pre-skyrim lore were not extinct, that's something that comes up for the very first time in TES V. Nor were they metaphysically important beings with a domination instinct. They were not only still around in the present but also regularly ended up in the service of the Empire and tamrielic royal families. The royal family of Daggerfall had one, the Empire had several in their service, one of which you get to fight in Adventures: Redguard (a game that also portrays dragon attacks on villages as a fairly casual thing) and you get to see the recently deceased corpse of an Imperial battlemage's dragon companion n Battlespire.
>>750637816Ah, okay. Yeah, I have very little faith that they'll be able to deliver. Maybe there's enough pressure to where Tod (or whoever) is actually telling them to keep the woke stuff out, but usually it's over once the rot has set in
>>750637387Alduin is not a generic Dragon, he is just presented in a retarded way visually and you just have to listen to dialogue to understand what they are implying.The changes that happened to Alduin were also initiated by Kirkbride but again implemented badly, I can elaborate with texts if you want.
>>750637964This is misleading.The lore change regarding Dragons was initiated by Kuhlmann and Kirkbride and Kirkbride preferred it, he has talked extensively about his view of Dragons as biological time machines during forum days.In fact the inception of the change predates even the Seven Flights of Aldudagga.
>>750637848Which makes sense in timeline terms, Nords accepted the imperial pantheon because Tiber Septim literally freed skyrim from years of moronic civil war shenanigans caused by both Solitude and Windhelm royalty never agreeing over petty bullshit since the dawn era.
>>750637848>Nordic religion before Skyrim was the most underdeveloped faith system prior to release of SkyrimNo, it got about the same level of development as every other pantheon through the Varieties of Faith book. Their reverence for Kyne, Shor being a dead god, Jhunal, Ysmir, Dibella, etc. Are all mentioned in Morrowind-era lore. All Kirkbride's design document did was give a more concrete rundown on what was already established in Morrowind and how the religion is actually like in practice. It also added Talos to the Nordic pantheon so that Skyrim's plot could still happen.>Then Bethesda proceeded to use almost nothing from design document in Skyrim and instead You talk as if that's some perfectly normal and acceptable thing or a conscious lore-driven decision when we know it was done because Bruce Nesmith thought that the franchise having multiple pantheons at all was an overly complicated mistake.
>>750638219The nords slowly abandoning their old pantheon in favor of imperialism due to tiber septim makes sense on the long run.Even the Thu'um became more and more of a legend because even tiber septim's own school in markarth was abandoned over the years because there was no reason to learn it or praise the old pantheon, they were at peace, not at war anymore.
They will almost certainly continue on with Skyrim's great war storyline, though instead of choosing between the empire or dominion, you can only choose whether you will support the crowns, or the forebears in their struggle to liberate wakandafell, from both the oppressive imperialists, and the evil racist fascist high elves.
>>750635810>Carmack>genius
>>750638491Yes
>>750638470>choicesToo complicated, streamline it.>the player, the most heroic man in the entire TES universe, praised by everyone who even glimpses at him, defeats the evil Empire and evil dumb orcs to protect Hammerfell and the misunderstood High Elves who actually wanted to protect the world.
>>750638434Except the Empire in Morrowind was explicitly stated to be religiously tolerant and not proselytize much. That's why the Varieties of Faith book exists in the first place, because for the Empire the idea that everybody already worships different interpretations of the same gods is enough, they don't care about having provincials follow the specific cyrodiilic versions of the gods.
>>750638589And yet, over the years people abandoned it, even that book itself ingame feels outdated.In fact, you can even blame Jagar Tharn for this because he literally moved mountains to fuck everything up.
>le jagar tharn is responsible for bethesdas lazy writing
>>750637598You clearly have not played Starfield, it is an excellent game that people hate because there hasnt been a new elder scrolls in 15 years. Gameplay systems wise, it's Bethesda at their prime of their game. Their only issue was doing something new with their exploration which then again was expected since it's a space game with multiple planets, they cant just do one map they usually do. Either way the new elder scrolls will just copy the gameplay systems and just put it all in one huge map and people will slop it up and call it bethesda's comeback when it's not any different from starfield.
>>750638567>pretentious jew post
The Nords converting makes sense.The Vikings they're based on also quickly forgot their old pantheon to take up a new religion.
>>750638816Oh may we take a look at this gameplay?>loading screen >loading screen>loading screen>loading screen >bullet sponge number grind
>>750638727...And why would the proud Nords abandon their gods in favor of the soft Cyrodiil faith that waters down Kyne, venerates elven enemy gods like Arkay, and engages in dangerous Alduin worship? Especially when said Cyrodiils don't even want them to abandon their religion?And don't say "peace", because the Third Empire wasn't that peaceful, there were several major wars throughout its history, rebellions were a common occurrence, and even outside that the Nords still had things like the ice tribes to worry about. There was still plenty of conflict.>>750638890You can make excuses for anything. That's how we got Talos magic dejungling. But setting aside the fact that that's not how the Empire's religion is supposed to work, that was still not what Bethesda was going for. We know as a matter of absolute fact that the Nordic Pantheon is not in TES V because, again, the lead designer thought it was confusing and pointless, not because he was a big fan of Viking history.
>>750638765>fucked the battlespire>caused a cascade resonance by shattering the staff of chaos>the the continent into a civil war for 15 years>had lysandus murdered for the lulz thus triggering daggerfall>kept the late charles xavier stuck in oblivion for 15 years frozen in time looking at a also frozen clivia tharn and being mocked by dagon who was the mastermind behind it.>caused the prisoner event to happen on a meta sense because the bishonen mage didnt expect the staff of chaos to do as it was intended, create chaos.>his shitshow shenanigans was felt all the way til oblivion because he was camoran's most loyal soldierjust tell us you never played any tes game at all, and you are posting here from irvine CA, also ion hazzikotas is a failed glowie.>>750639123Because Peace time softens people.
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>>750638890The vikings took up a new faith because they were pressured to do so by their Christian neighbors and eventual subjects, whose religion was universalistic and actively sought the conversion of pagans. The Third Empire is not like that, they're described as a godless society that has religious tolerance as one of its main tenants
>>750620960betting $100 that this will be filled with mostly ugly negro/mutt NPCs as same as Starfield
>>750639231>they're described as a godless societywhere?
>>750639240>characters in the black part of Tamriel will mostly be blackwhoa... Nostradumbass over here just blew my frickin mind, dude...
What will you do when you meet her in TES VI?
>>750639204And how did peace time (which, as i just told you, wasn't that peaceful) lead the Nords to conclude, all on their own because the Empire does not seek converts, that actually they were wrong for thousands of years, that the big bad dragon god they've feared for their entire history and whom the Cyrodiils themselves say is also the same being as the elf's god was actually a nice old man all along? What led them to specifically venerate Julianos, a god of math and esoterica? And to willingly shaft their most important goddess?Again, you're defending a soulless marketing-driven decision by a guy who thought the setting was boring.
>>750626153How does every daedric artifact in Tamriel always conveniently wind up in the province we happen to currently be playing in in every game?
>>750639541The Princes move them there
>>750639494Be very sad.
>>750639541To be fair a lot of Daedric artifacts are given to you directly by a Prince, so presumably they just materialize them in that location when they decide you're worthy. Also artifacts just tend to move around a lot, they aren't collected in one place.
>>750639541the Princes chuck them into places where great events will soon happen for shigglesAzura's like "bros, some fag's going to reincarnate again" and they all get together to scatter their shit all over the place
>>750638941When you have to make shit up like that, it's clear you never touched it.
>>750639401From Morrowind dialogue:>The Empire>The Empire is the greatest achievement of Tamrielic civilization. This melting pot of contrasting cultures is held together by a strong hereditary emperor and bureaucracy, by the rule of law, by a powerful professional army, *and by religious tolerance*. Education and wealth is broadly distributed through all social classes where Imperial culture has flourished; many citizens are literate and protected under Imperial law.">Imperial culture>Persons of all races *and creeds* can advance in wealth and status in commerce, the bureaucracy, and the military. However, moral and political corruption at the highest levels of Imperial society, and the economic strain of maintaining military occupations in widely separated hostile provinces like Morrowind, signals the impending decline of the Empire.">"Imperial culture is a pragmatic melting pot of the various contrasting cultures of the Imperial provinces, unified by a strong hereditary emperor and bureaucracy, the rule of law, a powerful professional army, *and tolerance of disparate polytheistic cult worships*. Education and wealth is broadly distributed through all social classes where Imperial culture has flourished; many citizens are literate and protected under Imperial law.">Vivec:>House Hlaalu represents the future of the Dunmer, integrated into the sophisticated *mainstream of the traditionless, raceless, godless culture of the Empire.*
>>750639240Starfield has some of the best looking NPCs Bethesda has ever made, not their fault people like you zoom into their random NPC generator made to fill up empty cities
>>750639845>his source for them being "godless" is fucking Vivecrorurumao
>>750620960>instead of being called TES6: hammerfell it will be sentinel insteadit's fitting because it immediately signals that it's going be a disaster that tarnishes the reputation of the 5 before it.
>>750622662Demystifiying mysterious stuff pretty much never works even if you have great writers doing it. This is a lazy, stupid, easily avoidable mistake and in Bethesda's hands it's going to be a complete turd that will rape the franchise even further into the ground.
>>750639872good morning sir
>>750639965An empire that tolerates all religions while also being self-admitted merchantilists is objectively godless. Vivec just didn't bother putting it lightly.
>>750640023Is that all you indians can say?
>>750639971>TES Arena>TES II Daggerfall>TES IV OblivionStupid fucking retard.
>>750639971>Arenaa name for Tamriel>Daggerfallboth a city and a kingdom>Morrowinda province>Obliviona plane of existence>Skyrima province>Sentinelboth a city and a kingdom
>>750639519As generations goes by, it is a tendency that culture also changes over the years, newer generations begins to ditch the old culture to something new for themselves.Though the side effect is that when the newer generations begins to copy what the older did without the mentality of those at that time, the results may be good or bad, and bad in case someone may use said past nostalgia to manipulate the present and future.One good example in game is the companions, for centuries the companions had bases stretched all over skyrim, even working alongside the fighters guild, and even had their own clever men and women who were shamans.Until one nord halfbreed reachmen insane cultist faggot follower of hircine decided that "they weren't true nords and he was the real true nord" and gathered a bunch of bandits, and had everything destroyed and set himself as the new Harbringer, and also had the circle formed and turned into werewolves while also lying to everyone that they were loyal to the old culture, and also kicking the FG out of skyrim, and all for a fake sensation of nostalgia.And now we have ulfric, using the same excuse, because nostalgia and nords are desperate for a messiah who will bring the good ol days back.In fact, one of the reasons House Redoran didn't pull this shit at morrowind too is because they enforced the Ashlanders and House Indoril at the temple to make sure none of the Dunmer decides to pray for almalexia and embrace the reclamations.
>>750620960>Emil and Veilguard writersoh NO NO NO
>>750640161>both a city and a kingdomis this nu lore?
I fully expect TES6 to have an always online requirementTodd will go on stage and tell you that modern AI technology has allowed him to make the most ambitious and realistic TES game yet. Every NPC is fully independent, real, thinking characters powered by TamrielGPT in Azure. (You)r Hammerfell is wholly unique and shaped by your actions and experiences in a way that no game has ever allowed before. Character will have full Radiant AI 2, complete with dynamic schedules, real jobs, real relationships, and so much more that we can't spoil yet.And best of all it will all be available 5 days early for purchasers of the HoonDing Edition of the game, available now on the Bethesda.net store for only $299.99.
>>750622338>>750620960Reminder that at Bethesda the Lead Designer is the writer for the main quest, and Emil isnt lead designer. So he'll just probably write some shitty factions like he always does
>>750640118>>750640161Skyrim would be named Romanelli per redguard
>>750620960doa if they use that horseshit engine of theirs
>>750640042>you don't kill infidels and foreigners and you trade goods?>you fucking godless, raceless, traditionless heathen!Vivec's just a whiny loser seething about the Empire making Morrowind their bitch like half the people in the provincehe's also a lying liar who lies
>>750640278the head honcho is todd
>>750640224Are you retarded? Think of it like Holds in Skyrim, the capital of the Whiterun Hold is the City of Whiterun
>>750640352ok, still not a fan of the name>>750640259this would be funny since a lot of basedlenials are anti AI
>>750640292i hope someone aislop redguard to work on windows, because it would be funny.
>>750640205>Veilguard writersThey are like jews. They destroy their host studio, then flee to the next. Those who would have actually had talent in Bioware are now unemployed, while they miraculously find new jobs elsewhere.
>>750640404The name of what, Daggerfall?
>>750633823>Is he the only person working there?Yes, unironically him and Todd are some of the only BGS employees left. 95% of Starfield was outsourced and almost all the longtime devs left as soon as Starfield released because Microsoft is a death cult
>>750640342Todd has final say and gives general directions on where the game should go, but even since Morrowind the Lead Designer (Ken Rolston in Morrowind and Oblivion, Bruce Nesmith for Skyrim) were the primary writers for the main quests. Same thing with Fallout and Starfield, especially with Todd admitting that he isn't hands on as much due to him having increased job duties as Bethesda has grown and expanded.
>>750640517nah "Sentinel"
>>750640301The Empire as it is presented Morrowind is objectively godless in the same way modern western nations are tho
>>750640579It follows the already established naming pattern and fits much better than TES III Morrowind, since that game was just Vvardenfell. Still, I hope that isn't the name, because the would indicate that the game is mostly in Hammerfell, and I want a Hammerfell + Daggerfall game.
>>750640767retard
>>750640723have you ever played morrowind or do you just listen to Dagoth memes on youtube
>>750640767is daggerfall free of sand people?
>>750640941Have you?
>>750640723>objectively godless>have missionary cults doing good deeds in the name of their gods while the local "religion" is just people jerking off to Vivec's real people fic
>>750640968idc about your canned coward response, can you answer the question?
>>750624304> I think everything after Morrowind is non canon joke anyway so Bethesda's audience will enjoy it just like they enjoyed oblivion, Skyrim> oblivion, SkyrimThe thing about those two games is that they still had notes and draft materials to work with, plus plenty of older employees to receive feedback. Those games stll had some of the old soul, with oblivion having more than skyrim for obvious reasons.TES6 is going to be the first game they’re genuinely making from scratch, hence why it’s so scary.
>>750640767Todd always chooses the most boring option and one province is simpler than two.
>>750640971Modern western nations also have missionary cults doing good deeds in the name of their god. Doesn't mean that they aren't secular states that expect and enforce a separation between religion and public affairs
>>750640821Seething at facts?>>750640963No. The Queen of Daggerfall in TESII was a Redguard.
>>750641063Oblivion was soulless trash
>>750641212https://youtu.be/weYUEzs32UY
This retard from The Verge knows nothing>The game is called Sentinel because it's a direct reference to Daggerfall. This time, however, they flip things around and name the game after the region of Hammerfell.>It takes place in the Iliac Bay, covering both provinces, just like Daggerfall.>They're introducing ships, and without the Iliac Bay, the inclusion of ships wouldn't make much sense.>An Easter egg in the Starfield trailer shows a map of the Iliac Bay.>The Pinterest leak features plenty of artwork related to High Rock.>TES Castles mobline game has you build and maintain a castle in 2 main, very distinct styles, Breton medieval style and Redguard style>In 2011, Todd said in the interview that he would want to remake Daggerfall>"I'd like to see the city of Daggerfall redone, or Sentinel. Daggerfall should be on a giant bluff, overlooking the Iliac Bay, and we just couldn't pull it off well then." Every game since Daggerfall has featured a Tower. Hammerfell doesn't have one. The Yokudan Orichalc Tower sank beneath the sea along with the continent of Yokuda. Unless Bethesda somehow brings it back, the Adamantine Tower is the only remaining option, and it's located in High Rock.The game WILL feature High rock in some extent.
>>750626153Because its full of niggers
I'm tired, Kirkbride and also not only him, but also other old TES setting designers and fake selfhelp book (like 36 lessons) writersI have no hope of TES6 being good. Logic:>last proper TES was 15 years ago and studio's inner workings have changed>Fallout 4 got flak from non-normie non-slopconsuming wing of the fans>TESO is WoW (as in it shits on the lore)>Starfield is a flop in a way that most peopole would treat it as a mandela effect brain fart that couldn't possibly have been made by bethesda
>>750641128>The Queen of Daggerfall in TESII was a Redguard.Was she the sex crazed one?
>>750636813holy jeet post
>>75064140924 years ago*
>>750622989>>750626083>>750626564You guys are still giving then too much credit. Modern writers don’t care about respecting old thing, only inserting their cool new thing. By “explaining” the elder scrolls, they become theirs
>>750639845>guy who is pretending to be a god after tricking his people into abandoning their gods says that these other guys he doesn't like who still worship their gods (and not him) are the "godless" ones>guy who is pretending to be a god and who rewrote all the traditions of his people to be about him and makes them view those who hold to their actual old traditions as backwards hicks says that the people he doesn't like who have an actual accurate written history are "traditionless"I can't think of a less trustworthy source for those accusations.
>>750641212you tell em xister
>>750620960Sentinel is going to be Wakanda
>>750641431I haven't played Daggerfall in like 13yrs and the characters don't leave much of an impression, so I can't remember.
>>750641602Doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of thingsWe're at the point when Arena's release will be closer to Skyrim's release, than Skyrim's release is to today. Whatever talent bethesda had had either died or was washed away by the river of time from simply not making a TES game.The shittier thing is that not a single game developer copied TES, even earlier and smaller releases like Morrowind.
>>750641629Every quote before his comes from Imperial citizens and are effectively saying the same thing
Games gonna be trizash
>>750621194Some people get rehired but not all. You can’t rehire at the same rate as the layoffs, when the layoffs are both shuttering entire studios and also affecting large AAA teams on top of that.
>>750620960How many more flops, OP? How much more of this?
>>750641817No? You fucking retard?The only thing the same is them saying that the Empire doesn't discriminate by race so they are, in fact, "raceless".They aren't calling them "godless" or "traditionless".
>>750639845>'godless' is when literatebruh
>>750641810TR is better quality than anything any soulless corporation could make
>>750641970>>750642001To be raceless is to be traditonless and to be religiously tolerant is to be godless
>>750641810>The shittier thing is that not a single game developer copied TES, even earlier and smaller releases like Morrowind.This is the crux of the problem right here. Bethesda has no fucking competition, so they can take their sweet time making games, because they're only ones making games like TES. Skyrim sold 65 MILLION FUCKING COPIES and not one other publisher or dev tried to cash in on such a large market? This industry, the shits out copies of even moderately successful titles, completely ignored one of the most successful games of all time? I can only assume that TES games are extremely hard to make and that the engine people love to cry about so much, is actually a technical marvel of engineering or some shit.Hopefully Warhorse's LoTR is just fantasy Kingdom Come with a character creator.
The official announcement happened. Eight years ago. Don't fucking try to pretend you didn't know that.
>>750622338The Scrolls are female
>>750626083>>750622662Playing devil's advocate with a guess: maybe they intend to actually talk about CHIM, the godhead, the dream, and the insane background lore made by Kirkbride in the game? You only get the most BASIC mention of it in a very select few of the in-game books throughout the game, and most of them don't understand it properly because they live inside the universe, so they interpret it as much more mystical and legendary and can't fully understand it.
>>750642404there ain't anybody who would want to play that game tho lmaoyou'll get the seven people who actually play games and don't just jerk off to Mikey's scribbles on forums to buy it and that'll be the entirety of the sales once the refunds flood in from normal well-adjusted people who would hate the retarded nonsensical bullshit
>>750642061>TR >Unoptimized garbage that makes a two decade old game run like shit on modern hardwarelol. Game certainly performs like it was made by a soulless corporation, that's for sure.
>>750642205Bethesda's success coasts on schizolore which costs too much to replicate and the task is seen as icky incel shit by the execs and modern game developersIf not for mushrooms that were allegedly binged when creating Redguard and Morrowind and thus making an impression of "a studio that cares about the depth and inner logic of the setting, however alien it may be" nobody would give much of a shit.Remove the schizophrenic lore aspects from skyrim and oblivion (aedra, daedra, racism, dwemers and their disappearance etc) and you'll end un with a subpar mid 2000s theme park RPG which, yes, has big locations and a lot of loot, but TES is carried hard by the setting. Bethesda itself made such a disgusting cretura with Starfield
>>750642404It's good because they don't talk about it. Even in Morrowind, those things were only mentioned in lore books, such as sermons, and never came up in dialogue.The moment they start addressing those things directly, the novelty wears off.
>>750642783The same thing happened with House Va'ruun in Starfield. They were the only interesting faction precisely because they weren't really present in the game. The moment the DLC brought them into the spotlight, they ruined them.
>>750641431No that was Barenziah.
>>750637079Honestly, the moral of this tale sounds like:> Decommission HR entirely, and fold all of their duties into departmental upper management.Like, these projects are being critically sabotaged by a corporate cliche uninvested in the creative process engaging in nepotistic and ideologically-motivated hiring - filling studios with activists and parasites.So, make the game director + lead artist responsible for hiring artists, the game director + lead writer responsible for hiring writers, and so on.
>>750642404it's going to be about Ithelia and the multiverse they introduced in ESO so they can rehash Starfield's NG+the Scrolls will allow different 'timelines/kalpas' to avert Thalmor ending the world
>>750624456literally 50% of the games charm is jeremys music. its going to be fucking garbage without it.
>>750642978They'd have to retcon Ithelia's story in ESO pretty hard to bring her back. I mean, nothings stopping them from doing it, but it would be a massive retcon
>>750643028>They'd have to retcon Ithelia's story in ESO pretty hard to bring her back>>>daedra of retcons>>>>>>They'd have to retcon Ithelia's story in ESO pretty hard to bring her back
>>750643028not reallyshe sealed the one single good version of herself away but that still leaves infinite multiverses with the rest of the evil Ithelias, does it not?I swear that entire expansion was AI-gen'd it is nearly impossible to make any sense of
Kinda unrelated to the thread, but somewhat related and I'm annoyed by shit on other sites.I don't get how people still do the whole "You aren't really the Nerevarine in Morrowind. You just do the stuff. The prophecy isn't really real and you aren't a Chosen One." when you literally put on the damn magic ring of Kill You If You Don't Have Nerevar's Soul.
>>750643410>I swear that entire expansion was AI-gen'd iMore like vibewrittenI doubt that people who wrote it played TES or hold the overall vibe of the singleplayer games as something dear to them.As Emil said (I might paraphrase a bit) on the criticism of pre-war jet in F4 or Nate "Rake" Fuckface actually being the dude from the intro of one of the interplay's games which kills a canadian civilian - "Who gives a shit about that made up incel drivel nigga like nigga who the fuck cares nigga I'm only in it for the money nigga"
>>750643656The thing is that the ring is controlled by AzuraShe could literally determine at that point that you are fitting for the mantle of Nerevar and retroactively make the ring accept you
>>750643702There were a bunch of writers from ESO who were really really into deep lore because they themselves were young guys from bethesda lore forum days, guys like Leamon TuttleThey all left right around after Deadlands expansion
>>750643656You meet the spirits of people who also fulfilled the all the criteria of the Nerevarine province but failed and died.
>>750643656Because the ring is controlled by Azura so she decides who gets to wear it or not. And also, because Ken Rolston, Kurt Kuhlman and Michael Kirkbride repeatedly say in interviews that they purposefully made it ambiguous. Its why Douglas Goodall hated Morrowind
>>750642730Schizolore only applies to diehard fans. The majority of people who play TES just enjoy it as an open-world RPG with sandbox and lite sim elements.It seems like the open-world RPG bit filters most devs than the schizolore, because not even Obsidian could make something as simple as TES with a PoE skin.
>>750643905I wonder why they were booted out Apparently we'll have to wait for 15 years for bethesda to croak and then maybe they will speak
>>750644051they were all moved to ZOS' vaporware MMO that sat in pre-alpha for near a decade before getting canceled by MS
>>750644051With Tuttle specifically he was moved to Zenimax Online's unannounced MMO, then once it was canceled he was laid off
>>750644006The ones in the cave?They all failed and died, and none wore the ring.
>>750630461We already know what happened to the dwarves, lorelet.
>>750644121That's a shame, he wrote the only good part of ESO (Sotha Sil's expansion)
>>750642941pretty much. nevertheless people mustn't fall into the trap of pushing all the blame onto the stereotypical "le HR roastie". disinterested employees in leading positions are at least as much to blame for not intervening against woketards who want to push their ideology rather than the success of the game. if you run a business with the same "nobody is personally responsible for any action they take" mentality like politicians run politics, you run your business into the ground. or, the worst case scenario of all - a studio places a wokie at the very top of the hierarchy (looking at you, naughty dog). then you can't salvage anything. just wait for the hilariously bad output and laugh about the social media drama the wokies will engage in trying to defend their pile of dogshit.
>>750644236Being absorbed into Numidium is the most likely explanation, but it's worth remembering that Kirkbride is heavily influenced by Glorantha where there are myths and gods that seemingly contradict each other due to different cultures and the unreliable narrator.
>>750644236Of course.Dumac tried sounding with Keening and the vibrations from it entering his Dwemer urethra resonated with the ambient noise coming from Lorkhan's Heart beating and caused a ripple in space-time that sent all Dwemer forward into the Seventh Era.
>>750636598To be fair Freelancer is also considered the pinnacle of the genre. Which is funny because it's not that good.
>>750644505>DumacKagrenac, fucking larper.
>>750644797Kagrenac had Sunder at Red Mountain, poser.Dumac snatched Keening from Nerevar's hand, dropped trou, and went to work while the Chimer was confused by his friend's distractingly large penis.
>>750644295Studios are far too big for one employee to have any real sway. Bethesda went from 150 employees during F4 to 500 for Starfield. Then you have MS sticking their foot in the pie, outsource studios, freelancers, contract workers and their various other "Bethesda" studios that cropped up, and the problem becomes clear. There are too many fucking people. Team leads no doubt spend more time managing their team and answering to management than they do designing the game.
>>750621194You are overestimating how far nepotism and cocksucking skill will take all the useless retards that got fired in this economy. Corpos have switched to the "hire cheap pajeets until AI is cheap/good enough" playbook.
>>750644797Dumac the last dwemer king
>>750644952Incorrect. Dumac had a hammer at Red Mountain and we don't know if it was Sunder or not, and Dumac specifically claimed to be innocent and not know about Numidium.
>>750644960but at some point the team manager must take a look at what his team was up to. and when someone like taash from failguard shows up in the gameplay, you ask who caused that shit, then have two other members of the team restrain the wokie while everyone else works on quickly setting up the office gallows and tying the noose.
>>750642978>the Scrolls will allow different 'timelines/kalpas' to avert Thalmor ending the world>Starfield had a quest where you jump back and forth trying to fix the timelineFucking pattern recognition for fucks sake I fucking hate it
>>750645161I think EA/BioWere's perception of RPG players as pigs eating whatever slop yoou feed them isn't really unique to EA/BioWere
>>750645129When did I say anything about what Dumac was wielding as a weapon?
>>750630432>Trusting ToddWhat a grand and intoxicating innocence
>>750645417>Dumac snatched Keening from Nerevar's hand
>>750645253well, for what it's worth, at least todd must be painfully aware of what sky-high expectations are set for TES6 from both the long-term fans as well as his microsoft overlords after asha pegged him.
>>750622338Directly tie it to both Fallout and Starfield, with you being able to "shout" through time/realities.>Fallout is 10000 years before TES and Starfield, and TES is an alternate Earth where Starfield FTL engines ripped the fabric of spacetime apart and it was stitched back together by the Khajiits with the Moon LatticeI could probably go stupider, but I want to give Emil as little thought as possible.
>>750644960that's what I love about these game companies, manthe employee count goes up but the amount of content stays the samealright alright alright
>>750645197>>Starfield had a quest where you jump back and forth trying to fix the timeline>they have a chance to asset flip this bullshit>mfw TES6 is even more fucked than expected
>>750645493A sounding rod isn't a weapon used in battle.
>>750642978>let you hop timelines/realities>still have unkillable NPC's despite that you can reboot the universeI will still never understand this complete blunder
>>750645729Then you're using it wrong.
>>750622338Starfield multiverse doo doo via ItheliaOne of the selling points would be main quests explaining deeplore to normies in the most retarded fashionOh, and Sheogorath refers to himself as Hero of Kwatch and also is now trans btw, and there is Nerevarine who arrived from the future kalpa and it is strong independent argonian woman and also dwarves are just chilling in some cave
The Elder Scrolls will be used to raise Yokuda from the bottom of the sea and the Left-Handed Elves and their empire will be resurrected with it to set up a threat for our Empire and the Dominion to team up against.
Plot twist: It's actually just another version of Skyrim.
>>750645814The dwarves built a REALLY big refrigerator and hung out there for 900 years.
>>750645814>Oh, and Sheogorath refers to himself as Hero of KwatchI mean he doesnt call himself that in Skyrim but he still very obviously implies that he is the HoK
>>750645814>is now transhe's already trans in my C0DA because I only play fem toons>Nerevarine is strong independent argonian womanImperial woman actually>dwarves are just chilling in some caveMorrowind already did this one
>>750645879literal modern aquaman shit that is awesome on the book.
>>750645814milf Sheogorath sounds cool.
>troon NPC wants you to guess their correct pronoun>pick wrong option>questline blocked
>>750645814you're shitposting but ESO did in fact let you flirt with slutty lady Sanguine in one of the recent events
>>750622338The problem isn't really the grand ideas or the direction of the lore with Bethesda and Emil in particular. It's their execution. They don't know how to world build, how to write compelling dialogue, and allow the player to ask pertinent questions. They will railroad you through questlines and conversations that had the potential to be interesting.
>>750636531why is this bait so lame?
>>750627702>>750627745best posts in the thread btw
>>750646169>flirt with slutty lady Sanguinedon't do thatdon't accept the invitation to a free trip on his ruse cruisethat's just a trap to drag your soul to an endless hedonistic party world where you'll party until you die and keep partying after that
>>750644626Trainwiz took it and made it better
>>750621194I celebrate bad people being fired every time it happens because it means bad people were fired. I celebrate bad companies shutting down every time because it means bad companies have shut down. In the former case, it means fewer chances to make bad shit (not every asshole who gets fired gets hired somewhere else; sometimes they leave the industry). In the latter, it means that bad company won't make any more products, reducing the total output of shit.The shitty devs who do get hired elsewhere will just kill those studios eventually, leading to more shitty people being fired and shitty companies being shut down. We know that batch of companies are all shitty because they hired the shitty devs. So it's a case of parasites killing off hosts fast enough that they eventually have nowhere to go.Works for me. Celebrate victories, lad, always celebrate victories.
>>750646426Sanguine is daedrice prince frank reynolds.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu70DP33WAI
>>750645161Problem is that the team lead no doubt thinks Taash is cool, strong and brave, considering Bioware are canucks. Considering how many studios are now pseudo-political activists, it wouldn't be surprising if they only hire people who share their ideals.
>>750645946He never says it directly, which would be the most retarded fashion. Also he will have dialogue bits like Neloth does with Nerevarine in Skyrim where he will namedrop Martin, Joffry (or how you write his mane) and BaurusOr maybe a phrase like "I used to be a main hero like (You), but then I took a knife in my tete de moine">>750646034Yeah, but now Kagrenac smokes weed and is voiced by Snoop Dog and Dumac is voiced by that dude that played negro halfelf in amazon's shitty silmarillion and they actually got tricked by a Yakub-like figureAlso all dwemer are black and snow elfs were all KKK members>>750646068He looks the same, but wears a miniskirt>>750646169I am not shitpostingI actually do believe that bethesda doesn't give a fuck that much
>>750620960We got Daggerfall Online now which is free and has all of tamriel, housing, ships, you fuckin name it. I don't give a shit if Bethesda never make anything again.
>>750631258>incredibly easy to pick up and play at any point>massive world with tons of stuff to do>nothing else like itAnd the biggest part being the mods. Nobody playing Skyrim in 2026 is playing vanilla. If Skyrim wasn't moddable, it would have died, at the latest, 10 years after it came out.
>>750646659>picyeah i was in that thread when the full screenshot collection got posted lmfao. i'm actually okay with woke studios, if they keep financially killing themselves it'd be fine. trouble is that they try to weasel their way into what used to be genuinely cool studios like bioware or naughty dog and crash them.
>>750620960Sword-singers, Crowns vs Forebears, sloads, clan Rourken, Yokuda, Orsinium... It's not like there's nothing to do or discover in Hammerfell so of course thy're gonna turn the Scrolls themselves into macguffins. There were signs in Skyrimjob when you have to grab one during the main quest because... you just have to, OKAY?
>>750646936>noooo!!!! you can't have the item that's literally what the franchise is named after play a role in the game!!!! that isn't what Kirkbride would want!!!!
What's the middle eastern equivalent of a draugr
>>750647115mummies
>>750647115Ra-NetuHammerfell is unironically just full of sand draugr that they're too autistic to kill
>>750647115According to lore the Redguards enchant armor, weapons, and statues (terracota warrior style) to come alive and defend tombs.
Will the local beast races (dragonlings, harpies, lamia) be treated as NPCs you can talk to or will they just be monsters to kill despite being intelligent people?
>>750620960>the lore is now in the hands of Emil and Veilguard writersNever got how these useless vermin find other places to leech from. Yeah, I get that the wokies/jews only hire their own and don't care about making a shit production if it owns the chuds; I just think the top director people would have their ear to the ground more about this stuff, and the second they realize that their lead writer has literally only ever produce toxic sludge, they would take action and fire the cunts. Then use some money to hire an actually decent writer since, like, the money can't be a fucking issue here because there are tons of masterful veterans or successful avant garde writers that would do it for only a tidy sum. If I was captain of a ship and my new top crew member in charge of the engines has personally sunk 5 ships in their lifetime from sheer incompetence, I'd fire the fuck out of them on the spot.
The only way Oblivion has any lore sauce at all is if you believe the Hero of Kvatch is secretly Mehrunes Dagon's chosen. Manakar builds a private realm that represents absolute stagnation, meaning he doesn't earnestly believe in the tenets of Mehrunes (chaos, change, revolution). You personally go in and upend the whole thing, passing through a gate the same way Mehrunes does into Nirn to upend the stagnant Septim dynasty. You're not even his 'inverse', you're doing the exact same thing.
>>750647640they will be treated as intelligently as the minotaurs and forsworn were
>>750647674Emil is childhood friends with Todd. It's not very complicated.
>>750647051More like:>We gotta stretch this paper-thin story (that we somehow managed to make very boring and lame despite dragons and shit) but we can't even come up with our own bullshitium in this Elder... Scrolls... game... YEAH! Elder Scroll, go fetch it, Last Faggotborn.
>>750648405Forsworn swinging at anyone that steps on their turf at least make some sense because they're currently extremely pissed off about Ulfric's racist ass fucking them out of having the Reach become a province and butchering their people (and any Nord who didn't help butcher them)
>>750648405>best TES MQ is the one that has 0 elder scrolls in it whatsoever>worst TES MQ is the one that has an elder scroll in ityep, i'm thinking elder scrolls make for bad storied
>>750620960>according to some idiot, Bethesda is going to announce soon that [everything that would be in the announcement]Well you just fucking announced it, retard.
>>750642283fucks sake this got me good lmao
>>750621194I'm not concerned about itI think it's funny when games flop and studios closeI'll keep playing my old games :)
What kind of "borne" are we going to be here? Dragonborne, Saarborne. Now what? Scrollborne? Guardborne? (sentinel, redGuard, holy, just think of the implications!)
>>750651168the Redguards' legendary guy is a sword-singing dude named the HoonDing who reincarnates every once in a while to "clear the way"
>>750624456he was whining about dying in the holocaust, so it's deserved.
>mfw it's set in Hammerfell
>>750651568Switch the first N with the following D. It's like the memes write themselves, or rather they wrote them years ago.We hoodniggas now.
>>750620960>>the lore is now in the hands of Emil and Veilguard writersWait wtf lmao
>hammerfelli have nigger fatigue so i pass
>>750620960emil? the guy that makes me instinctively want to punch his face?
>>750620960
>>750642404Lol they're gonna reuse the same animation of opening the scroll at the throat of the world from Skyrim and reward you with a [not] dragon shout, you won't go blind because you are the reincarnation of [insert chosen one]. It will sell 40 million copies and Todd will release upgrades every year for a decade as modders trip over themselves to make their characters into tranny fetish blow up dolls.
>>750621194Good, they'll spread their cancer to other studios and those too will shut downTodd is seriously one bad game away from shut downI doubt he knows it
>>750653201>[not] dragon shoutsword song*
>>750634758The game is like 3 to 5 years away and it's already over
>>750646854That kind of needs to happen though, if people refuse to gatekeep the wolves get in. Better if it breaks people free of studio worship and we can drop the "from the creators of" corpo line used to drum up preorders when they know there isn't a single person that worked on the actually liked game still at the studio. Personally can't wait for the obvious Obsidian rugpull with the next Fallout everyone was jerking off about.
>>750653527From Fus-Ro-Dah to Wuz-Gid-Nigga in one easy step
>burn millions>get studio closed>new job right awayhow do they do it?
Whatever.I'll keep enhancing my Skyrim modlist.Odyssey of the Dragonborn soon. Trust the plan.
>>750638171>about his view of Dragons as biological time machines duringHe said that Jills are biological time machines, not Dragons. In the same post he says that Jills are to Dragons what angels are to humans
Redguards are going to play like thishttps://youtu.be/fjy5nXDRKQE
finna keep playin openmw on vivec no cap
>>750653303>Todd is seriously one bad game away from shut downHas to be the most delusional shit I've seen on the internet lately.
Look at the wall behind him, that’s how they do it.
>no soul without Soule>Emil with KISS>ex-biodrones which torpedoed a studio>gameplay loop from starfield (probably)>micropenis meddling in development because TES6 is one of (if not the) biggest project they have going on
>>750629045>worked out great for shitfield, didn't it?Would have if it was one or two large open world maps. The reason it didn't work is because it had all these scattered self-contained destinations and the engine is not meant for that.
>>750630579>unless you want it to be tight UE5 game without any modsNigga UE5 is the easiest engine to mod in. Every single UE5 game has mods.
>>750654864the power of super intelligence in azure will make radiant si NPCs the most realistic and believable in any video game ever made
>>750655263Shitty replacer mods, yeah. TES modding isn't just model swaps, retard
crazy how hard he and no man's sky mogged todd and starfield
>>750655481>replacer modsYou are a god damn moron
>>750655526can you post some UE5 games with mods on the same scale as PTR, Nehrim, and Enderal
I will always have Morrowind peak if VI ends up being dogshit.
>>750655526Show me a cool mod for a UE5 game then. New gameplay mechanics, feature, lighting overhaul, something like that
>>750630432LOL
>>750646216this
>>750635103based arenachad
>>750654151you know, is faggotry like this that nowadays grinds my gears in terms of retards shoving a shitload of useless visual shit that doesn't change the fact that it looks uglier than the fucking vanilla visuals or oldrim's best mods.same goes to NV mods
>>750621194If the plague has no more bodies to infect it dies. Soon modern gaming, movies, comics, tv shows wont exist.
>>750622338>remember the dwemer? they're back!
>>750622338I don't think anyone here can even come close to the stuff this guy is gonna pull
>>750620960WE WUZ ELDAN SCROLZ AND SHIET
>>750648597And all the other useless eaters?
Skyblivion is releasing within the next 63 days. They're doing the final phase of professional playtesting right now.
>>750658936nobody cares anymore
>>750658936>AI is now widespread and usable in many applications>mod that's been in development for over 10 years>suddenly is about to get releasedoh wowie that's pretty heckin cool! I wonder how they sped up their dev time so fast!
>>750659618speak for yourself, the remaster is dogshit that they can't even bother patching.This will be the definitive way to experience Oblivion for me.
>>750657870>Somehow... Kagrenac returned.
>>750659696They didn't speed anything up, their steady progress is documented. Idiot.
>>750659785 watch your mouth, ok?
>>750658936everyone cares now
>wait 20 years for new elder scrolls game>get elder scrolls: nigger
>>750658936At least it looks better than the remaster
>>750660361Uh... dude.. You can't say that.
>UE5jeets out in full force
>>750660647just have grass draw distance to be bigger and the game multicore using aislop and oblivion is ok now
>>750660647Yeah, the remake looks much better. And it's Skyrim, so players can change the weather and use ENB and such to alter it to their liking.
>>750660940that is because skyblivion is also taking notes of the good shit oblivion city mod
>>750624604Wood elves not hunting makes no sense. Hunting is the primary source of food in the woods. You can't grow crops or raise livestock in the forest without clearing land. And the forest makes it easy to hide or set snares.
>>750631843I doubt she even remembers that she did it.
>>750661256>Wood elves not hunting makes no sense.one of the first people you meet in skyrim is a wood elf named Faendal. where did you get this notion from?
>>750661410The picture he's replying to implies that non-TES wood elves are typically animal-loving hippies, unlike the TES ones who are literal reverse vegans. That being said i don't think that's accurate tho pretty sure the hunter aspect is a pretty common wood elf trope across fantasy
>>750620960The final nail
>>750622338set the game in hammerfell
>>750631793If they add the save only when sleeping feature from Fallout 4 then I don't care what else they get wrong in TES VI. That feature single handedly made Fallout 4 a good game and I want more limited saves in games.
>>750638816Games with gunplay can never be good, only mediocre at very best.
>>750632070glad you admit the only thing good about these games are mods, otherwise they are average or just outright suck, they had over decade to come up with a better new version, instead you still get loading screen everywhere kek
>>750632956Which was... ?Besides, Skyrim's dragonborn was mentioned back in Morrowind, the dude had a plan.
>>750664273no one remembers skyrim for it's combat, quests, or anything else, almost 2 decades later the only thing you hear about it is mods, only 3rd party mods, otherwise game was always average.i'll trade those for actual proper game.they had over a decade to work things out with their shit engine, or get a new one that is mod friendly, nope, here's a loading screen. I'd take less mods over a proper good game, which bethesda hasn't made in almost 2 decades now, and even that (skyrim) was a bugged piece of shit riding the "modders will fix it" joke bandwagon, guess what? that shit ain't funny anymore. fuck bethesda and fuck any bethesda drone defending them, here's fo76, eat it up goy. I've had enough of this failed company, 8y since tes6 announcement btw, totally not in developement hell, fallout? what is that? kek. time to let go, bethesda faggots will end up like bioware and others. asha cannot fire that faggot todd soon enough for fumbling the ball so hard.
>an entire near-bumplimit thread full of unsourced bullshit that isn't true
>>750642979Don't worry they will get some tranny who can't quite capture the vibe like what happened to minecraft
>>750622338The problem is he'd be unpredictable.It's hard to predict the actions of an idiot, and the sticking point is there's a fuckton of lore that Emil wouldn't care about or understand, that he could nonetheless get stuck on. I think the most concerning subsection of these would be taking pretty abstract and heady concepts and trying to make them diagetic gameplay mechanics that are either mundane, shitty, or boring. You know, the fukkin memes that go "every time you open the menu, you have achieved CHIM", that kind of shit, except applied to things Emil doesn't understand, beyond people "like" it. Dwemer shit is the most likely culprit of this, especially if they're allowing people like Trainwiz to actually have a word or two about the lore, but not necessarily the worst.I can see a grim timeline, where "shouts" are replaced by "dreams", or something, with the implication being that every time you use one, you are waking and editing the dream, thus leading to the kind of inane bullshit Dragons were forced into, where an ancient debate that rewrites reality between two dragons, is portrayed as two dragons screaming "HOT" and "COLD" at eachother.Which itself undercuts the whole thing, if mechanics to waking are ever truly codified, because that there even are mechanics, are the dream.
>>750620960skyrim player pretending to have standards
>>750622662>I mean, "uncovering the secrets of the Scrolls" already sounds retarded.They did that in Skyrim.
>>750665040If trainwiz is doing the dungeons I'll be plenty happy
>>750622338Emil's biggest problem is that all he cares about is setpieces and not coherent stories.
>>750665586You need to understand the average zoomer somehow gets filtered by his braindead easy puzzles so of course they wouldn't want that.
>>750665718wait a minute, that claw...
>>750665586There's a number of ways things could go, nothing beyond firm speculation, but, my spidey senses are leaning in the direction of "these weren't "REAL" game devs, so we pumped them for ideas, then dumped them/let them do busywork for their trouble" meaning you're, at best, getting a side quest or two they actually did, and then a bunch of ideas and themes regurgitated by core staff because these mods are what's popular with the kids these days.I could be wrong, of course, but I can absolutely see some pretty dismissive regard for anyone picked up from the mod community being prevalent.
>>750665863We know Elianora did a bunch of cluttter + detailing in Starfield because that's what she does as a modder. Do we have any idea what the 3DNPC guy did?
>>750665740...is covered in yellow paint
>>750665912He did a bunch of smaller side quests + unrelated interactions with NPCs like the vendors and the companions that didn't have full questlines.
They are totally going to do that the Redguards were the true first race and that Elves colonized and destroyed Yokunda (Wakanda). The Redguards built all the towers and wrote the scrolls.
Why is half this thread a bunch of fifteen year olds making up scenarios to get mad at?
>>750666098first time on /v/?
>>750654053>zhe doesnt know that is never going to releaselol, lmao even
>>750621194I don't care. There's more content than I could ever experience in several lifetimes out there, I can literally just not buy something if it's shit. These parasites can bankrupt as many legacy companies as they wish until people finally get the hint, no skin off my back.
>>750666281lol
>>750665586Trainwiz doesn't work for them, he has his own multiplayer spaceship game + own studio
>>750620960>Emil and Veilguard writersNot sure which one is worse.
>>750666507come on post the real version
>>750621194Bethesda is next then.
>>750667514Far more easier that Kinggath's crew was hired to work on TES, since his crew keeps delivering good shit for both games.
>>750626106Yeah Bioware was the tip of the iceburg. Zoomers don't understand how fucking awfull all of the multiplayer-only always-online paid-cosmetic trash is. The studios making them will die because they are all made by the same ilk of retard that hates good game design.
>>750667514>Veilguard writers>check>it's a white male who wrote Bioware's best charactersOh no Bethesda would finally get good writing
>>750667818He has his own company though
>>750620960TES VI will not have the following key people making it>Jeremy Soule>Kurt Kuhlmann>Michael Kirkbride>Ken Rolston>Mark Nelson>Ted Peterson>Bruce NesmithIt won't be Elder Scrolls vidya.
>>750625897YOU ARE DELUSIONAL
>>750636597new vegas has this too but no one ever made a reddit post about it, fucking posers
>>750636702>proteans were jamaicansI have bioware sjw fatigue
>>750634458Chocolate doesn't taste as good as vanilla or custard.
