>there are people on this board who unironically hate this levelExplain yourselves.
>>750619414It's gay. It's the gayest zone in the game. I can't even think of a worse zone.
Another instance where the use of ''unironically'' is unnecessary, just saying ''there are people on this board who hate this level'' is perfectly fine...
>>750619414I don't have to explain shit, because I fucking love Sandopolis, ESPECIALLY act 2. And not just for the music, although just listen to this fucking gigabanger.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi16YiIpSkY
>>750619570I unironically agree with this anon.
>>750619414Knuckles is black-coded
>>750619584Act 1 theme is better.
>>750619414I already have the transformations by, like, the second stage so I never have any issues.
>>750619562ahem
>>750619414I remember going in a circle for a bit, and the ghosts were annoying. It wasn't too bad though.
>>750619414i remember getting stuck in that zone for a long time. i think it was the area where you're just falling left and right. of the entirety of s3&k it's the only place i remember that happening. getting stuck in carnival night is a skill issue.
This is Hydro City erasure and I will not hear it.
>>750619414I think its overhated for sure. Is it a little overly long? Maybe. But its one of the few zones in the series to have a great sense of tension, without relying on water or bottomless pits to do it. Atmosphere is top notch, too.
>>750621268>PULL THE LEVER OR YOU WILL DIE NIGGAI don't like it
>>750621348>I don't like it
>>750619414Sandopolis is great. S3&K is great.>>750620020Hydrocity is great too. Now that I think about it, the game is pretty much perfect.
>>750619414It's the low point of an otherwise 10/10 game, but it's not that bad. I'd take it over Labyrinth, Metropolis or Wacky Workbench any day of the week.
>>750621761idk how you do it but s3&k is a perfect game right along with crash bandicoot 2 and cuckhead
>>750621901>retard forgets FF7
>>750621901I always felt S&K cartridge was better than sonic 3 as standalone games.
I don't get the hate for Labyrinth Zone. I adore it. Makes me feel Emotions.
>>750623689Same. Sonic 3 was the worst individual 2d sonic game on its own.
>>750619414I remember running into that looping part constantly with no real idea how to get out consistently without doing random bullshit.
>>750619414It’s too long
>>750619414Everything after Sky Battery Zone is a drop in quality and enjoyment up until the finalle zones.
>>7506200207 year old me really struggled with this part and I often game over'd on it. Kids aren't great at staying calm.
>>750624710>he says that while this exists
>>750619868You are either a jackass, are baiting. Ice Cap Zone has a part with an infinite fall, and the barrel is fair to get stuck on, child.
>>750619414It's like 30% longer than it needs to be.
>>750619868>getting stuck in carnival night is a skill issue.Getting stuck in Carnival Night is an "I didn't get to read the walkthrough before playing this game" issue
You can't really enjoy the level when the light is on a timer and you don't know where the next switch is. You can't stop and smell the roses because you're under TIME PRESSURE stress to avoid getting RAEP by ghosts.
>>750627532You retards write this off like it was any kind os skill issue. It wasn't. Carnival night's barrels all behaved differently.l The one that people meme about only works if you press up or down on the D pad. None of the other barrels in the zone work that way.Fuck you.
>>750627664Don't quote me on that post asshole, I'm telling that other guy to fuck himself for pretending the Barrel of Doom wasn't a giant load of bullshit.
>there are people on this board who unironically think Blaze wears pantsExplain yourselves.
>>750627736ah yeah, you're right. it's so fucking stupid to pretend the barrel of doom wasn't bullshit. it was. i think carnival night zone 2 is the only sanic zone ive ever timed out on. granted i'm a million years older since then
>>750627770I don't care whether or not she wears pants, all I know is that she has pyrokinesis. She could play around in the Himalayas for hours.
>>750627650It's pretty easy to get to most of the light switches before the ghosts even turn medium, let alone by the time their final forms even bother to actually start attacking you instead of just floating there menacingly, by just proceeding as normal through the level. And even the parts where you might get a bit lost there's always a nearby switch you can easily keep going back to to reset the timer. And even if you do start getting harassed, they're piss easy to fend off. So on the whole, I find I can enjoy the level quite easily, rising sand sections being the part where the pressure does actually ramp up a bit.
3K at its worst is still better than Labyrinth, Metropolis, and the entirety of CD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ7nB85RS90
>>750627809It's doubly stupid because they always present it as "you just couldn't figure the thing out because you didn't try to experiment with other things", when in reality we all DID try those other things, but because the feedback is so poor, it looks like the proper solution doesn't actually work because you have to do it a specific way and for an extended period to even notice what's happening. Not only that, but there actually are other barrels that move earlier in the level that you overcome by jumping repeatedly, meaning the game has literally taught the player wrong on purpose by the time we get to that one. And the capper is how many of us were able to get past the barrel at least once by sheer luck and stubbornness, which convinces everyone that actually that IS the right way to do it and it's just really difficult.Anyone who actually grew up with the game and wasn't fed the answer long before playing it would know that struggle because it was a universal one, so every one of those mongoloids is telling on themselves when they try to act all high and mighty about it.
>>750619414The ghost are incongruous to the setting.Every enemy in the game up until this point had been a machine (or Knuckles)
>>750619724I might be stupid, but is possible to get supper sanic before marble garden?
>>750628086What's incongruous about ghosts in a tomb?
>>750628127he's saying that all of the enemies were smegman robots. the ghosts in sandopolis are actual ghosts. nothing else in the game is like that.
>>750627897>Labyrinth I love how you can observe the level designers refining their craft throughout the trilogy just by how much the water levels improve by each game until basically being perfected by 3 with Hydrocity.
>>750628304He isn't saying that they aren't robots but all of the other enemies are. He's saying that BECAUSE they aren't robots but all of the other enemies are, that therefore makes them incongruous in the setting - incongruous meaning out of place. But he's wrong, because simply being the only non-robots in a game full of robots isn't the only determinative factor, and I pointed out that the setting is a tomb, specifically a pyramid. Therefore, in a structure filled with the ancient dead, ghosts are in no way out of place.They aren't the only non-robot enemies in the game anyway, you defeat a golem just to enter the pyramid in the first place, remember?
>>750628585At least the water in S3K is not egregious. Labrynth zone is the only truly terrible water stage from the genesis trilogy.
>>750628843It's easy to forget that Carnival Night is a water stage, but act 2 is so fucking gay for how it works
>>750624312Sonic 2 exists, you know?>80% is mindlessly holding right to win>you probably dont even remember all the zones in the game due to this
>>750629303sanic 2 is a certified banger. the only forgettable stage is shill slop zone.
>>750628114Yep you can get super sonic by hydrocity
>>750619562All of Sonic CD. Sonic Mania Oil Zone only if you play as knuckles. There you go, zones more gayer.
>>750629390>sonic 2>the worst, easiest classic game>bangerTheres a reason posers and zoomers default to sonic 2, you know?
>>750629456Well I've got some more learning to do.
>>750629557and there's a reason why you dont
>>750629645Yeah because I got tasteAnd you... well you are a nigger
>>750629712>well you are a nigger... touché
>>750629578When people mention getting supernic by marble garden I usually find they miss these two secret rings in hydrocityStart of act 1 that requires a short backtrack after you get launched upward by the water spoutAct 2 when you get given lots of speed down the spiral slide and launched out of the water onto the moving platforms that let you take the top path or right path. If you hold left when getting launched out of the water you'll see the secret ring entrance
>>750628598Golem and ghosts are part of the same problem with these levels.We have gone three and a half games at this point which are all Sonic vs Eggman's mechanical forces, with no over mystical or magical elements apart from the vague crystal spiriturality stuff, and now suddenly they turn up.It's probably easy to miss with all the later Sonic games adding all kinds of rubbish into the setting, but this level was a weird when you got to it.Could be an easy fix too. Golem could have been some rock covered robot and the ghosts could have been spooky bat/moth/owl robots or something.
>>750629184Then theres ice cap act 2, where theres so little water that its possible to skip seeing it entirely.
>>750628843The lower sections of aquatic ruin can be pretty bad too, though thankfully they are avoidable.
>>750630657Aquatic Ruins zone is that you?
>>750631161Aquatic Ruins at least has entire paths underwater, and first time players are likely to fall in. Ice Cap Act 2, I wouldn't be surprised if some people didn't know water existed in it.
>>750631452does it require being mentally handicapped to go under water in ice cap? i think there is one giant ring down there and thats it
>>750631628Theres two underwater giant rings, but one is knuckles only.
>>750631452Literally hold right to win the zone
>>750631706No see? He went underwater for 0.23 seconds!
>>750631706>Literally hold right to win the zonethe genesis version doesn't play like this jej
>>750631798Yeah you go flying higher in the genesis version so its even easier
>>750619570its a sentence enhancer now, the english language is made-up mumb jumbo anyways
>>750631982>t. drew carey
This is the only correct takeAngel Island < Mushroom HillHydrocity > Flying BatteryMarble Garden > SandopolisCarnival Night < Lava ReefIce Cap > Hidden Palace/Sky SanctuaryLaunch Base > Death Egg
