Why don't white people like Chinese games?
Better questions is why don't JapanThey love Sun Wukong
>>750617717japs dont play games without japanese dubs
>>750617517because an hour after playing them you are bored again
>>750617517Gacha and mobile games wasted all of their time and attention span away.
>>750617717They have good taste and won't play chinkslop
>>750617517I had a look, there's like 1m positive chinese reviews and 100k or around that I've already forgotten, probably less, english reviews which is technically split across a fuckload of countries probably.That's not bad honestly. I'll still never play it but that's not exactly bad considering that's similar numbers to a bunch of other popular fotm games.
>>750618436>90% chink players>Not bad
Why don't white people like Japanese games?
>>750617517They just feel soulless.
Ban twitter screenshot spammers
>>750617517Bizarre morals in their stories and derivative gameplay
>>750620036you forgot to crop out elden ring
>>750620036Whites love souls slop
>>750617517Chinese fantasy is boring
I'd probably be more interested in Chinese/Korean nationalists didn't try and pretend 1 "good" game means theyre about to be THE world superpower.You made a monkey dark souls, chill outYou made Pinocchio dark souls, chill out
>>750620408It's all literally based on the same 4 pieces of literature for the last 2000 yearsit gets repetitive
>>750620458Why did they only write 4 good books in 2000 years?Europeans wrote hundreds of classics in a fraction of the time.
>>750620508They've got like, fucked up philosophy that doesn't lend itself well to telling stories
>>750620458In what kind of wretched world is xianxia entirely based on those novels, par jtw
>>750620508They have a very conservative culture. By design. Confucianism is big on preserving tradition. They decided that 4 great works were enough.
>>750619806you really don't have any reading comprehension at all do you lil niggy, granted my sentences were constructed like dogshit so I'll give you that but still
>>750617517>uh what if we made an uglier sekiro with no map and everything looks the same>lets also release that game 5 times a year
Journey to the West is barely known, and the game looked like "Generic UE5 action game", even though it was one of the earliest games to be shown off using UE5 before it was officially unveiled (to everyone's horror once we saw how it ran).
>>750617517They're all Dark Souls ripoffs and we already had a decade plus of Dark Souls from the people who made Dark Souls.>>750620408This too. It has even less variety than Tolkien-inspired high fantasy.
>>750620728Xianxia is derviative of Wuxia and other genres which are in turn derivative of the Big Four. Xianxia just mixes in lots of Taoist shit
wukong requires a certain generation of bugmen who grew up with a state-of-the-art (for them) adaptation of journey to the west to enjoy. Without it you get a shitty soulslike. With it you get a deconstruction and sequel of one of the most beloved bugman works of all times.
>>750620036i love chinese propaganda like this which if it actually counted US and EU together it always ammounts to more than CN
>>750617717the generation that loved wukong had died out after the nuke. The current gen is too westernized to like it. Dragon Ball is like this weird artifact of a time when Wukong still held sway over them.
>>750620036Why do chinks play Jap games like Yakuza, when they have a huge hate boner for Japan over WW2 shit?
>>750621057that's because chinks have no good games.
>>750620036There's a billion chinese so it makes sense that there's more of them buying games?
>>750621057Same reason why a lot of them watch anime and model their gacha games off their aesthetics, the reverse is true since a lot of nips play CN gacha games while hating chinks.
>>750621168Why don't they just fuck each other already?
>>750621057a bunch of characters every yakuza game end up secretly being chinese or korean with a tragic backstory
I really dislike chinese aesthetic sense.
It's almost as if there are like triple the amount of Chinese than of white people?
>>750620426>I would care more about a game based not on the game itself but on the opinions of others kill yourself
show me a good chinese game not based off journey to the west or romance of the three kingdoms.
>>750621853Tale of Immortal, Heroes AdventurePlenty are based on the Water Margin instead like all the wuxia/xianxia stuff.
>>750617517They're not that good. Hope they figure out how to add soul to their games, because their production values have gotten competitive.
>>750621057They're tsundere.
>>750617517There's like a billion fucking chinese people OP, any demographic survey that includes them is massively skewed.
>>750617517because its china slop
>>750620458>>750620730>they decidedno, that was Mao during the cultural revolution the cultural revolution as a concept will never fail to make me laugh in a sardonic way>be Mao>rule China with an iron fist after defeating the shitty nationalists>oh shit I actually have to be an administrator now, not just a military commander, I gotta know about agriculture and shit>through sheer incompetence, greed, delusion, and psychopathy: cause the largest mass death event in Chinese history known as the Great Leap Forward >it’s a famine>literally just a man made self imposed famine>30-45 million dead over 4 years>during the entirety of WWII, which saw events like the Rape of Nanking (so horrific it literally made a nazi diplomat think “only Hitler can save these mongoloids from atrocity, Hitler please save us!”) a ‘mere’ 14-20 million Chinese died to an enemy actively trying to slaughter and genocide them for 8 years (twice the time)>Mao is understandably ousted by the CCP for this>not killed though>Mao doesn’t like being ousted, does not give a fuck about literally causing 10s of millions of women and children to die>actually tries to convince students to put him back in power>they actually fucking do it in an event called the cultural revolution holy shit>part of Mao’s propaganda was about getting rid of the old China>countless works of art and other artifacts are destroyed from arguably the worlds oldest continuous culture (and people killed and cannibalized) to put the retard who thought crops had communist feelings (like, actual emotion and gratitude) back in powerlMAO
>>750620036>others 47%Who the fuck is playing Yakuza? Euros?
>>750623623China would be in a much better place of the kmt kept power
>>750617517Because they're shit. Korea and China cannot make good games, that's why they're forgotten after a week.
>>750617517Different martial heritage.Asian martial heritage is held in magical bullshit because they needed to oppress their own people more than win wars, they needed their peasants to think any civil war was entirely pointless because the upper class has spiritual and magical prowess that can't be toppled.In the west our martial heritage was through direct conflict where strength, leadership and technological superiority reigns supreme.As a result, what we find badass is just different. Magical characters who can only go toe to toe because they're magical and not through discipline and a great challenge, isn't as appealing to western audiences.The most drastic example of this is military parades.The world copied them from the west but what did Asia add? Acrobatics and "martial arts", performances that are made to entertain and invoke fear in a crowd that doesn't know any better that serves nothing to war. Military parades was a way to determine how disciplined a unit was before battle for the commanders to have an understanding of where to position and who'll break first, they're a function of the battlefield that has now been made into tradition.
>>750623871Apparently yes. I think there was a Nagoshi interview where he was surprised by how many French fans of Yakuza there were.
>>750620508>compared a entire continent again one countryLol
>>750624340China has more people than the entire population of Europe
>>750623871Asia.>Furthermore, sales in Japan and Asia seem to have made up a big part of this momentum, as Yokoyama notes, “The game is incredibly strong in Japan. Sales in (the rest of) Asia are also quite strong, but the momentum in Japan is even greater than in the past.”https://automaton-media.com/en/news/like-a-dragon-infinite-wealth-dev-surprised-by-unprecedented-speed-of-sales-and-big-change-in-sales-pattern/
>>750620458didnt they burn all that shit in the cultural revolution? now that theyve embraced capitalism theyre finding out that they literally have no material to work off of because they burnt all that shit to the ground. such a soulless country
>>750617517Yeah. Fuck China and their botted propaganda shill garbage.People in China are as workaholic as in Japan, and they have Digital IDs that can restrict low credit users from actually playing anything like all the "Kids Safety Act" that are being introduced here, just to ensure everyone's working and not NEETing.I guarantee you that most Chinkslop hype is entirely botted, even on here, and especially on YouTube. It's done largely via reaction streamers, who take CCP funded promotional deals to sell these games as if they're the "hottest & biggest", and then nobody actually fucking plays them, and nobody think they even look good.
>>750617517But I like Dynasty Warriors...
>>750617517They lack... soul.
>>750617517China simply can't bot outside of china.
>>750620036Whites are poorChinese are rich
>>750617517>sekiro souls slopwhy should normal people care lmao
>>750617517Wukong was the most obviously shilled shit I can remember, literally no one was talking about it after release. Completely fake hype, zero cultural impact, forgotten about almost instantly.
>>750617517They have shit optimization (with zero patches to improve them most of the time) and themes and visuals are always the same it's like they only know about monkey king and ugly rural villages, deep forrests and their ugly hills with some valleys and nothing else. And gameplay is also the same. If you have played one you have played all of their games.
>>750625957>Whites are poor>Chinese are richAhahaAHAHAHAHAHAHAYeah that's why every western nation is full of chinese food delivery drivers and sex workers.
>>750617517Amerimutts and Eurofags have inferiority complex towards China like Nips
>>750617517Chinese games are boring. The Japanese are much more artistically talented and interesting.
>>750617517Can we get Chinese media that’s not based on romance of the three kingdoms or journey to the west?
>>750626071In China people live in houses.
>>750621853Dyson sphere engineer.
>>750626578You live in Styrofoam and the majority of the populace lives in warehouses.
>>750626071Now, let's see what is happening in Paris
>>750626578Stop ruining my idealized version of china where they live in walls even the meekest of females could punch a hole in
>>750617517I liked Volcano princess and am looking forward to Moon princessI liked magical girl escape until that dogshit homoshit ending.
>>750617517Derivative/copypasted soulless goyslop. Kill all yellow cockroaches.
>>750626661Also black myth sold 30 million copies, 90% china sales is still a hell of a lot of western sales
>>750617517They feel soulless and lacking in taste desu
Because they are sterile and boring, they try too hard to be cinematic
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>>750617517Other way around. China won't buy video games not made by a Chinese studio.
>>750617517Why don't they make a good cultivator game
>>750626636Also even discounting the near slave labor that is the majority of cities, basically everyone else then lives in a shitty apartment where you have a very high chance where one neighbor has pissed off another one and now the entire apartment block sounds like hell.The only people with houses are either super rich and have likely been scammed, or they're some granny in the countryside whose house is inevitably going to be bulldozed for some dumb reason a official has concocted. And the house in question will be some concrete hell box that is in complete disrepair.
Black Myth Wukong was really bad and I blame myself for buying it without doing any research. I saw how popular it was on Steam, thought it was going to be a game about a snarky monkey with a bombastic attitude (AND IT ACTUALLY SORTA STARTS LIKE THAT) but then you play as silent Dark Souls monkey and the game is full of 1-frame attacks you can't really dodge on reaction to. I did beat it. The final chapter where you fly around on the Flying Nimbus was really poorly designed. After that, I decided to never buy into the Chinese hype ever again. I won't play any of these big Chinese games unless people overwhelmingly tell me the game is good (and that hasn't ever happened)
>>750625910This isn't really an argument. Steam achievements always go full retard when a new game launches. They stabilize like a day later.
>>750625910isn't this normal?
>>750626745see>>750620036
>>750620508Isn't the real answer that a ton of their literature got destroyed under Mao? That era of history was huge on snuffing out culture in favor of promoting a sanitized state approved culture. If works of art didn't match the ideal they were destroyed. Imagine woke media distortion except instead of promoting lgbt and women all media had to be the most milquetoast hallmark channel slop. Depictions of adultery, vice, and hardship were verboten. Everything was toothless kitsch. Imagine the american 50s propaganda smiling family with doggos and boyscouts and all that shit. That was a literal worldwide phenomenon that crushed all other artistic works beneath its heel and even destroyed all prior works that did not fit the mold. So the only works that had even a semblance of breadth of human experience were the untouchable founding myths.
>>750617517the japanese just make better chinese games
>>750620426They always talk like alien invaders. >The time of the white man is over! Submit and kneel before our glory!And their glory is some Unreal slop Dark Souls clone.
>>750617517We don't get social credit for buying them.
>>750617517This shit is so fake it's unreal. >there are millions of chinks with rigs good enough to play any modern AAA title, but they only show up when Soulsslop: China is released
>>750620426They make a lot more sense when you understand they all have chronic chuunibyou
>>750617517Put it against the population of the country and then compare. Fuck, why is basic fucking statics so hard for y'all to grasp?
>>750617823This, it's a completely closed off environment. Go back and read early Japanese reviews when BG3 blew up in popularity - it's as if most of them never encountered an RPG in their life.
I hate gook and nip and chink culture but i love asian pussy so much its unreal
>>750626791The craziest thing I learned is that even the Chinese living in apartments own houses, because real estate is the only safe investment
>>750620426For cultures that don't create, discovering a copyable template that they can stencil over to reasonably approximate 'creation' is like an apotheosis. They genuinely can't tell the difference between learning from something and then using that knowledge to create something new, or just copying something from a template. They genuinely think that by taking a black and white picture and colouring in the lines, they've cracked the white man's faustian spirit and now they're a step away from having their globe-spanning maritime empire but without all that pussy ass humanism.It's a similar phenomenon to authoritarian arab shitholes buying billions of dollars of US military equipment and then realizing they don't actually know how to fight.
>>750629669I agree with you but your last paragraph is wrong.The Arabs are retards because of their religion. Their religion tells them that they'll win in the end, that the world will be muslim and arabised. Their interpretation of that is that they don't need to try, care or put effort into anything because they're still going to win. They believe the fights already won, them putting in any amount of care or work isn't going to make or break it because their god is handling it.It's why when they get to the west they get fat and lazy. They think it's inevitable they'll win so why care?
>>750629583The generally own """houses"""(empty unfinished shells in a ghost town) but yes thats why there was such a shitshow over that real estate company.The one thing basically everyone thought was the one stable option was in fact as much a sham as everything else is.Family fortunes all spent on houses that were never finished or better yet; never even started.
>>750620036That's more like>Why don't Japanese people like Japanese games?
>>750624175Probably, even though Chiang Kai-Shek was an idiot who was barely in control at times. Depends entirely on whether or not his China would have gone down the same path that Taiwan eventually did or if the whole thing spiralled out of his grasp and turned into another clusterfuck.
>>750629669It makes more sense when you realize the goal is to pump and dump your markets, not actually to replace them.
>>750629829It's actually because the Gulf oil states are all absolute monarchies where the monarchs are terrified of a potential military coup and so deliberately structure their militaries to be badly coordinated and ineffective so they don't pose a threat to the crown. Iran is also an Islamic country and they're currently humiliating the Gulf states and the mighty US military at the same time simply by having a cohesive military plan.
>>750620508If European classics are so great, why aren't there any video game adaptations?
>>750630646Yeah man, there are no games based on Arthurian legend or joan of arc or viking sagas. None whatsoever.
>>750630646There's so many to choose from that anything new that gets made is almost certainly treading ground that has already been trod, so it's literally just easier to do something "new" or redo something "new". Do you have the slightest idea how many variations there are of stories like Romeo and Juliet? We've pretty much explored and codified every conceivable narrative trope the human mind as it is can even come up with. We went ahead and fracked human creativity, we milked it dry, exhausted the reserves, cranked it until it was shooting blanks, left its clothes in tatters, cleaned out the shelves, pounded it until its soul left its body.
>>750617517Good. We dont want this shit spreading globally. I had to endure the snooze-fest of a movie "Hero" back in 2004 at the cinema -with the swirling leaves, dramatic slow-motion, and yards of translucent silk robes floating lazily through the air, GTFO- when I could have seen Cruise kino "Collateral" on that weekend instead.
>>750617517More often then not modern Chinese fucking suck ass at telling a half-decent story. Even the ones that start out decent eventually devolve into the most retarded possible plot that someone could conjure up for a story. Every time I give Chinese media this always happens.
>>750624385Supposedly. Then you find out that their census counts the same exact people multiple times for each city or town they have moved to and from.
Someone needs to smuggle some TTRPGs to China so they stop making shitty action RPGs and start crafting actually interesting systems. Maybe also smuggle them something else to read than Journey to the West while you're at it
>>750630646Either a zoomer or a retarded chink
>>750622183Then anyhting that's good and isn't wuxia/xianxia/xialongbao bullshit, Korea slop stole that already and they can't make it good
>>750620036I think you should have to take a written and oral exam showing you understand per capita before you're allowed on the internet ans anyone who tried to post without passing should have their fingers broken with a hammer
Chinese games are well made but they still feel derivative and soulless, they haven't found their own voice yet. It reminds me a lot of japan from the 60s and 70s where they mostly copied stuff from the west but got progressively better at it, when the 80s and 90s came along Japan had become a cultural powerhouse with companies like Nintendo now surpassing what the west was doing. China might be there in 10-20 years but not yet
>>750631495true for their boxed AAA games but genshin has the most unique gameplay on the market, even if it took inspirations from botw at first it quickly became it's own thing that shares maybe 5% of it's gameplay with botw
Their xianxia stuff is very weird
>>750631830I like xianxia more than wuxia though
>>750630796>joan of arc>literatureLiterature is shit like the Canterbury Tales, the Decamerone or Paradise Lost. Joan of Arc has a drama of some German Shakespeare wannabe at best.
>>750631804>genshin has the most unique gameplay on the marketmake better bait
>>750632023if you don't want to argue in good faith then I'll just call you a seething tranny back, there's no game on the market that has anything even remotely similar to genshin's elemental reaction system, you literally can't name a single game, you can bitch and whine all you want like a seething redditor because you have some pavlovian reaction to non western games but that doesn't change the fact that genshin has the most unique gameplay system on the market
>>750617517Because of the chinese.
>>750629373Also why Witcher 3 and CP2077 were fairly well received with their full JP dub. Hell I've seen more Japanese videos on 40k lately due to space marine 2 having a JP dub. They really are the worst kind of dubfags.
>>750620036The only real take from this is that the Steam market is majority Chinese. Possibly PC gaming in general.
>>750631879It's all weird
>>750624260The west was dominated by the concept of the divine right of kings for centuries. And even when kings became figureheads or done away with entire there was still a whole lot of the divine right of entire peoples. Hell, the entire trajectory of west was decided by the "magical" effect of painting crosses on shields for a battle.
>>750617717Better question is why Chinese love monkey king so fucking much.
>>750632609Very few people actually believed that, authority in the west was built on the mutual obligation of the nobility to keep the smelly poors suppressed and the sworn loyalty of the troops to carry it out. Magical thinking didn't keep monarchies stable, it was the fact that martial training and quality arms were out of reach for most, but that went out the window when the most highly trained knight could be shot dead by the smelliest most dumbest peasant.
>>750627081true
>>750617517My backlog is so gargantuan I barely buy new games any more.It's not an inherent dislike; China was just late to the developer party and I'll get there when I get there.
>>750617517I don't understand this argument. If you'd tally the numbers for an apologetically western game like nuGod of War the numbers would be 5% Chinese.
>>750617517Racial division thread, jealous african trying to split asians and Caucasians
