Why are Al Bhed only 13% of Spira's population, but commit 50% of machina-related crimes?
god this game is such a fucking drag, shills have nostalgia goggles
Because they are godless heathens brudda.
Yes
>>750615885...Wait, who commits the other 50% when Al Bhed are the only ones with machina?
>>750615885Remember when the pope pulled out a shotgun live on television?That was weird>>750619046The church, apparently
>>750615885>hates al bhed>doesn't even know what they look likewas wakka retarded?
Al Bhed are good people
>>750619109Why is the church only 2% of Spira's population, but commit the other 50% of machina-related crimes?
>>750619167Only their women. The men must be exterminated.
>>750615885Hey Wakka, how about you shut the fuck up and go back to >>>/lgbt/
>>750619130Anon, Wakka was consistently treated as an idiot by every single other character the entire game. He's clearly the dumbest party member in any game besides Umaro and Gau.
>>750619940>Knowledgeable about both sports and theology>Only party member who thinks to completely bypass boss mechanics with his weaponWakka's intelligence is relative
Wakka CORRECTING Rikku.
>>750615885>YA KNOW?
>>750619940Take that back or you'll be sent to the blitzball mines. The FFX-2 Blitzball Mines[/spoiler
>>750620480>Knowledgeable about... theologyBro, when he meets a maester who just openly breaks the rules of the religion, he has no idea what to do or say, and just kind of shuts down in confusion.
>>750620749>The guy in the position of power can do whatever he wantsNo way
>>750620749That doesn't demonstrate a lack of intelligence, it demonstrates he has the ability to reflect on his own cognitive dissonance.
>>750615885I like that the only reason he hates the Al Bhed is because his brother picked up a gun to fight Sin with.
how does hold a ball that has a stone effect on it and not turn into stone himself when he catches it, it would hit his hand just as hard as it hit the fiend
>>750620480Wakka is relatively intelligent, but not consistently intelligence.
better dead than al bheds'what I always say, ya?
>>750615885It can't be the whole 13% right, I mean they're not Al Bhed
>>750621062Heh
>>750621062
>>750619109>Remember when the pope pulled out a shotgun live on television?>That was weirdkek
>>750621138Ryne sex
>>750621513>But enuf about Israel
>>750615885Wakka was an early /noticer/
>>750621020*Gonna bred them Al Bhed
>>750620923It absolutely does not hit his hand as hard as he throws it, it clearly hits the target with whatever amount of force, then bounces into the air, arcs, loses some speed as it arcs, and then falls back into his hand.
>>750621062I actually don't understand this pun?
>>750622392all badal bhed
>>750615885betta ded than al bhed brudda
>>750619130Al Bhed having swirly eyes isn't common knowledge. Most of them wear googles in public.
>>750615885Why is everyone talking about FFX all of a sudden? Is it because I just started playing through it?
Did the racist wakka meme exist when the game was new?
>>750619130>was wakka retarded?Going by the dialogue, yes but honestly everyone was.
>>750617153I remember loving FFX but then recently watching my friend play through the first part and holy shit is that initial part a slog that gives you 0 explanation of what the fuck is going on and what the fuck you are doing and why.I'm not talking about Sins invasion. I'm talking about the section with the Al Bhed immediately after.
>>750624287>Most of them wear googles in public.Because so people wouldn't recognize them.
>>750625728Creating mystery was the point
>gets attacked by Al-Bhed with a huge ass canon>fend them off>Rikku: This guy who tried to kill us is my brother >Everyone immediately forgets the whole attacking part and leaves No one in this game acts even closely like human beings
>attack reelsHow do you respond without fucking dying and sounding mad.
>>750625728Yes Tidus is effectively made a slave. But he doesn't speak the language, he doesn't know the world, so the only thing he needs to know is he needs to work. A position that both Tidus and you recognize
>>750625923I'm pretty sure they Rikku defending Yuna and putting herself in front of the gun negated the attacking part.
>>750625923You are forgetting.>Rikku kidnaps Yuna >Blasts Tidus and Wakka with depth charges >Well fuck plan A failed, guess I'll just ask to come along.
>>750619130I like this Rikku way more than her sluttified version in the sequel but oh well I guess that's realism for teen girls.
>>750619130>was wakka retarded?most racists are retarded
>>750628374Yes Rikku wants to protect her cousin. And the Guardians sans Tidus don't know she was the one piloting the ship.
Now, that I think of it. Has Hooper ever played against Luka Dogshit
>>750621062goddamn it Carlos!
>>750628802>most racists are retardedyou wish, nigger
>>750619130less retarded and more stupid, besides their language and eyes they're practically the same as any other human.
>>750619130Filthy toilet eyes.
>>750615885Braska once said,all men are created equalbecause Al bhed women have the nicest ass.
SPIRAL EYES, YOU KNOW IT LIES, BRUDDABETTER DEAD THAN AL BHED, YA?
no good dirty sand
>Rikku is the only pure blooded al bhed in the party>She's a professional thief who mugs people and steals their money>She uses dirty underhanded tactics like bribery>She knows how to create improvised explosive devices on the fly with the rudimentary materials she stealsWakka was 100% correct about them. They are basically terrorists. They even live in the desert.
>>750619130He is brainwashed religious believer. Do I need to say more?
>>750631890Hard to blame the guy when Satan is running about casually wiping out population center on a whim and the Church seems to have the only answer to it, no matter how temporary, from the average dudes preparative.
>>750631664wakkas hatred of them stems from the idea that the al bhed's use of machina is the reason for sin.That's not true. He's just wrong. Actually it's yevon is the bad guy.
>>750615885It’s not a crime to cleanse heresy
>>750632730The al bhed are fucking subhumans who need to be genocided. This has nothing to do with yevon or sin. The al bhed simply don't deserve to live. Fuck them.
>>750625728>>750617153Why is it ok when Persona 4 does it?
>>750632842t. Waaka
>>750615885Because Yevon's machina-related crime goes completely unreported, as the result of system corruption at the highest levels of the theocratic government.The cover-up involves everyone from soldiers in the rank and file, all the way up to at least three of the four reigning maesters.Even more disturbing are persistant reports that the grand maester may not actually be human any longer, and is instead an undead creature masquerading as one of the living.Such atrocities are not historically unheard of in Spira. But the current corruption of the Temple has reached heights even the worst of its predecessors never aspired to.Now I must move on to another thread, to collect the ancient tales of Those who Fuck Shoopuf from among the Hypello. I heard they have quite the detailed oral lore on this matter. Hmhmhm.
>>750632962nigga who the fuck is fine with p4's 2 hour opening?
>>750624287That was a really stupid thing to post. Al Bhed aren't mythological creatures in Spira; their eyes are their defining physical trait and everyone would know it, especially people raised on stories about how much they suck.The lengths some people will go to defend simple bad writing, sheesh.
>>750633072Old Man Maechen, tell the story again how Yunalesca is dressed like a whore because she breathes through her skin. Don't forget the part about this foreshadowing Yuna whoring out in the sequel.
>>750633175For real tho, why do like 70% of spira's women dress like hookers? Is this part of Yevon's teachings?
>>750633413Yunalesca was the first summoner.They are following the traditional wear of their messiah like figure.
>>750633413wtf is this ugly bitch wearing kek
>>750633780I still would
>>750633413Japa- I mean Spira is really fucking hot. It's a series of volcanic islands.
>>750633413it's in the lore that people on spira needs to breed like rabbit to survive sinso yeah
I tried to learn Al Bhed as a kid and even had the English to Al Bhed alphabet written down
E fyhd du iur lhiio dra lihheac eh Cbeny faynehk draen cmiddo cdyhtynt fayn
>>750615885They're good at sportsball, though!
>>750621062oh my god i hate you lol
>>750635639Not really. The only exceptional al bhed players are Brother and Nimrook. Everyone else is average.
>>750635892did you have two or more of any other faction on your team?
>>750617153Agreed. Dropped it as soon I saw there was no overworld. Teleporting between 20 different hallways and dungeons with minimal exploration gets old quick.
>>750615885Only 50%? I think we got bigger problems, that means 50% of non-Al Bhed Spirans are disobeyed the teachings, ya? They're commiting heresy, bruddah! They gotta be purged if we ever gonna atone.
>>750619130>Religious rank and file are kept ignorant by the upper ranksWakka was not naturally hateful, so he had to be told who was a heretic and who wasn't. Since Al Bhed resemble Spirans more closely than Ronso or Guado, it wasn't so easy for him to tell what she was, other than some cute girl Tidus and Auron vouched for.
I first played this game almost 10 years ago and, while I remember loving it (except for the Blitzball part), I dropped it at the 2nd Seymour fight because he was kicking my ass. How much more was left until the end?
>>750633413To keep the population alive
>>750633413The people canonically need to fuck a lot and have lots of babies because there's a giant monster that has been going around for hundreds of years that can just wipe out entire civilizations for the hell of it and at best every few generations someone may come along who puts a halt to the carnage for about half of a generation.
>don't give a fuck about some shitty fake religion >fight Sin as they should instead of perpetually feeding the cycle of sacrifice They sound based to me.
>>750633081>their eyes are their defining physical trait and everyone would know it, especially people raised on stories about how much they suck.obviously not, otherwise Wakka would know Rikku is Al-Bhed. You're retarded.
its crazy to think that if you asked someone in 2015 who would be worse, literal horse fuckers or pol, what answer you would get. one of them keeps to their respective boards and isnt a problem, and the other...well, a noticeable decline to the quality of the entire website
>>750622592I'm so fucking stupid, thank you.
>>750637721>We don't want people to sacrifice themselves to stop Sin>To stop them, we'll risk our lives and get a lot of ourselves killed???
>>750633413Every time she shows up I start fantasizing about being her femdommed guardian guy.
>>750640876If the al bhed defeated sin then it wouldn't come back.
>>750637624>for about half of a generationNigger, the calm lasts a few years at most. Braska's calm lasted less than a year.
>>750625728>Gives you zero explanationKind of the fucking point, dickhead.
>>750644089Did it? I thought the calms always lasted about ten years.
Friendly reminder that Al Bhed actually are degenerate criminals fucking everything up but FFX takes pains to frame it as tee hee just some mischievous fun.
>>750617153Oh yeah? Then how come I 100%'ed in ps2, ps3, ps4 and played half way through on steam?Ps, I might be autistic
>>750633413I always thought it was because Spira looked like a vast tropical paradise that can get hot as fuck all year 'round but people needing to breed in order to keep humanity alive is a better explanation.
>>750631020He is correct.Case and point: you
>>750643957They're not going to beat Sin in the next ten years, which is how long of a layover you get if a summoner actually defeats him. In fact, that only gives more time to build up your weapons to kill Sin next time.
>>750633413its beachpunk, they're just wearing swimsuit inspired outfits. Yuna is the weird one.
>>750644920FFX is incredible at weeding out the /pol/ chuds
>>750645309Let's believe in a fairy tale instead of finding a solutionAre you christian?
>>750645309This entirely neglects the fact that the Calms were getting shorter. Tidus winged it and successfully killed Sin. Granted because of Jecht's influence. But we went from discovering the Fahrenheit at the start of the game to Sin's Death. The first Calms lasted for centuries. Plural. Generations of people were born and died without seeing Sin once. So you mean to tell me that in all of those gaps, all research into killing Sin forever just never started? And I'm not saying this is a fault of the writing. In saying it's an indicator of Yevon using a legitimate calamity as a crutch to stay in power. The only reason everyone subscribe to the Church of Yevon is out of fear of Sin but if Sin doesn't exist then Yevon has no reason to exist either. And so Yevon heaps all of the blame on the Al Bhed who is the only group trying to do that.
>>750645312Beach punk is not a thing you autistic retard.
>>750646217In a purely pragmatical sense, they probably wouldn't see the worth in researching for a way to do away with him forever. A single sacrifice every few hundred years is a very cheap price to pay.
>>750646668No. It isn't. Especially when the Calms are getting shorter. And it's not one sacrifice either. Sin, just by being itself nearly erased Kilika off the map. Good thing there wasn't anything important there... except for one of the Temples that Summoners need to go to in order to train for the Final Aeon. None of this shit was necessary past the 2nd Calm
>>750646217I'm obviously sympathethic to the Al Bhed and not to Yevon, but at the same time, the Al Bhed accomplish nothing when trying to fight Sin, and only succeed in getting it to destroy bits of Spira. Even if the calms get shorter, even a year of no Sin paid for with the life of one teenager, statistically against the whole of Spira, makes sense as a price, especially if the teenagers are willing.
>>750646271It is a thing and it's gnarly
>>750648196Some shit you just made up is not a thing
>>750628802Pattern recognition requires an IQ above room temperature.But go ahead and live in a "diverse" city and wonder why everything on the shelves is locked up except the sunscreen.
>>750639229If only western video game developers didn't constantly delve into obnoxious identity politics then /v/'s discussions would look different.
>>750645897This thread sure turned into reddit fast.We got people offended at the most tame joke ever in the OP and seething about religion.We just need some daddy issues mentioned and it will all be complete!
>>750648108Sure, but as anon said, the Calms are getting shorter and used to last centuries. It's a year now, soon it's going to be just months, weeks.
The Yevonite faith is obviously corrupt beyond belief but it held shit together long enough and kept the people from total despair which is important no matter how people handwave that. And the tradition cultivated at great cost, the right tools (summoners) which were critical for a final victory when the opportunity arose.The Al Bhed were just mindlessly potshotting Sin and getting droves of young warriors massacred for no reason. The fact that Wakka's bro died because of Al Bhed tricks and then we get to see Operation Mi'hen completely fail suggests they're not even waiting that long before trying again or learning anything from it. And of course Sin is literally a superweapon designed to fight machina with extreme prejudice, but for some reason retards keep trying to whitewash Al Bhed stupidity. They're supposedly the scientific and smart faction but they just dig up guns and fire them off like rednecks while behaving like cartoon villains. But Rikku's ass hypnotizes everyone into thinking its some sort of benevolent genki girl faction.Of course Tidus and Jecht is the deus ex machina (lol) that end up saving everything but if it wasn't for Yevonites there'd be nobody to save and nothing to save them with. If it weren't for Al Bhed there would be more people to save. Oh and the gang might have had to ride Tiamat to board Sin instead of an airship, big whoop.We are trapped in a spiral of brainlets misinterpreting this game on every single level.
>>750635892Ropp is the best defender in the game.
>>750615885Why are 50% of black men in your contacts list?
>>750635892I liked having Linna as my right attacker.She's cute AND she can volley shot
>>750649060Are you stupid? For starters Yunalesca knows for absolute fact that the Pilgrimages are bullshit. A Yevon that actually gave a shit about stopping Sin would've used the Final Aeon as a stopgap, not as a status quo. You keep saying a few summoners die and that's the only cost and I'm not sure why. Kilika fucking explodes. The Crusaders have to die in droves to keep Sin away from Luca and Bevelle. Sin is such a black hole of misery that no one is allowed to expand beyond small villages lest they attract the attention of Sin.The Al Bhed research into Sin is rudimentary because it's not permitted to exist. They have a single outpost that they have to use to pool their efforts into because everywhere else on the planet has ostracized them based on a bullshit faith that was never going to work anyway. If the goal was getting rid of Sin then you can use the Final Aeon and then spend the literal centuries you have finding a way to break Sin's defenses. It's not like it's impossible. The Fahrenheit was just dredged up not long ago and it's main gun can one shot Sin's limbs. This is technology that's literally 1000 years old and that the Al Bhed are learning in real time. But why can't they have learned this technology 900 years ago and expanded on it from the safety of the Calms. You're arguing that living under a sword of damocles is an acceptable trade for a world religion that bans curiosity.
Operation Mi'hein looked close to punching through Sin's shield. It gave me the impression machina could be the answer. Makes me wonder what would happen if you beat Sin without the final aeon. I assume Yu Yevon would limp off and take longer to build a new Sin.
>>750649571Should have gone vegnagun vs sinh
>>750649734It would just take over any close aeon like the parasitic asshole it is
I feel like Blitzball could solve all of these problems.
>>750633780That's a man anon.
>>750649734>Makes me wonder what would happen if you beat Sin without the final aeonThat's literally what Tidus and his party do. What the fuck are you wondering about? Did you never beat the game?
>>750649734Well the problem are the other Aeons. The Fayth ask Yuna to call them during the final battle. This is so the party can kill them all, leaving Yu Yevon himself with nowhere to run. If Operation Mi'hen actually worked, you'd still have to destroy all the Fayth at every temple so no other summoner can call their respective Aeon. And you'd still have to find Yu Yevon himself. Which you won't because no one knows he exists other than the Fayth, Mika, and Yunalesca. >>750649736The Vegnagun thing always presented as ridiculous. Apparently it wasn't used because it's IFF is broken and they gave it an AI even though it's pilot operated. Just turn off the fucking AI and let the pilot do its thing. It's not like the AI works either. Vegnagun will just run off whenever it feels something threatening it. The exact opposite of what you want in an anti-Sin weapon.
>>750650006Then they go inside Sin and kill Yu Yevon. If you don't do that bit Sin probably still comes back.>>750650006
Unironically? It's because>al-bhed use machina>people who use machina get persecutedWow it's almost like the laws were designed to literally genocide them.
>>750621431Sex? With Ryne?Well, if you insist...
>>750648571>"damn I got discovered... I know, I'll just say it's Reddit!!"
>>750649571maybe they shouldn't have shown up to blitzball tournaments to cheat if they were trying to keep a low profile lmaofact remains that they're a bunch of actively harmful retards who barely know what they're doingand again since you idiots always forget, the only reason Sin was surmountable in ANY regard is because it was Jecht, doing his best to job for his son. And even then they barely squeaked it but we all know it was the aeons who did the heavy lifting, not machina. The reason the world is fucked up to begin with is because Sin was so good at raping machina faggots. In fact it worked so well they dressed up in robes and pretended to be faithful of Yevon.
>>750649943It can. Max damage attack reels does nearly 1,200,000 damage which is enough to easily take out Sin and Yu Yevon. Blitzball is the ultimate power in all of Spira.
>>750650698What the fuck are you talking about? The Al Bhed are already globally hated. Why would they give a shit about keeping a low profile? The purpose of all of that was to take Yuna so she doesn't throw herself into Yevon's meat grinder. You know because that group of Al Bhed is being led by Rikku and Brother? Yuna's cousins?Also for certain Jecht was instrumental in the death of Sin but you still need the Al Bhed to finish the job. Otherwise Yuna just dies. And now you have another Sin who doesn't have Jecht's weaknesses. You're proselytizing for a religious order that has failed to keep Sin dead for 1000 years while preaching a solution that has never ever happened. Do you know the definition of insanity? Has Sin ever been prayed away in Spira's history?
>>750651085Kidnapping Yuna could be explained as a family thing, but the other summoners they also take are different.
>>750651529The other summoners aren't killed. They're taken to the "Summoner's Sanctum." And we know from Pacce that they don't intend to hurt the summoners>Pacce: (Runs up to Tidus) Hey, um, what’s “sacrificed”? The Al Bhed said summoners were being “sacrificed.” That summoners shouldn’t have to do a pilgrimage…If the goal was just to fuck over Yevon, it's a lot less effort to just kill them on the road. But that wouldn't make sense since the Al Bhed are also invested in Sin dying on account that Sin will blow them up just the same as everyone else.
>>750628374Cute girl privilege. She strips down in front of Tidus intentionally.
>>750655454She is 15. Delete this.
>>750656380Old enough to get married. Don't force your foreign ideals on other cultures.
