Is MegaMan's setting considered cyberpunk?
>>750608359MMZ yes, the rest, not sure. I don't know if I'd count X series as 'punk'
>>750608359X definitely has some influence at least with how reploids are named after replicants (they're even called repliroids in Japan)
>>750608359Battle Network is like if Neuromancer was a kid-friendly saturday morning cartoon
>>750608359No, just straight sci-fi. If Wily wasn't fucking around, it'd be decently utopian.
i would call it "urban sci fi" but i don't think that's a literal trade term
>>750608359It has the "cyber" part down, idk about the "punk"
No it's just anime futuristic.
>>750608359absolutely not, what the fuck are you talking about
thanks to the guy who told me about yo-yo PA. I beat Alpha today.
>>750608647I wouldn't say Neuromancer, but it's very Snow Crash, I think by design
>>750608359well it depends if you consider astroboy/mighty atom as cyberpunk
>>750611660Pluto was pretty cyberpunk
>>750608359No. Are you retarded or something.
>>750610605oh yeah, and thanks to the guy who told me about the Collect Program. it made farming a lot easier.
>>750613047Kill yourself
>>750610605maddy sex
>>750614785You first idiot. Try not to fuck it up either.
>>750608359Megaman is Solar Punk, the opposite of cyber punk in tone and future outlook. Everything is clean and green and shit.
>>750608359Not really no. It has "cyber" but rather than "punk" it's more "metal" rock.
>>750608359Mega Man is Robot Fiction, an older genre of sci-fi, plus Toku/transforming Superhero themesX is the above, but also Gundam-esque war drama tragedy and apocalyptic themes addedZero is also both of the above, but post-apocalyptic with a high fantasy/mythology motif around everythingZX is the closest to Cyberpunk, it prominently features cyborgs and transhuman themes, and even features an evil corporation along with an overbearing governmentLegends is super-far future speculative territory with Ghibli and Nadia in the Blue Water vibes, also more prominently features MechaBN is "cyber-futurist" I guess with some Pokemon and Digimon flareSF is the above (sort of) with Cosmic/Space sci-fi elements and even some speculative evolution content (EM Wave Beings)
>>750608531MMZ is more post apocalypse rather than cyberpunk desu
You basically play as cyber cops who have no need for anything besides uhmm, their friends and feelings I guess.They fight to enforce the status quo and any detractors of it are painted in an unquestionable negative light.
>>750618772Usually the detractors are either threatening civie lives or are actually ending them though so there's no real positive light there.
>>750617278>even some speculative evolution content (EM Wave Beings)It's just the 5G horse
>>750608359zx and zxa kinda are
cyberpunk is high tech low life. Megaman as a whole is very high life. The world is protected by idealistic robots.
>>750608359The world wasnt a shithole until X5
>>750621000I would prefer being in cyberpunk 2077 rather than in megaman x, atleast literal country sized satelites don't fall over there
>>750621000the X world is a complete shithole, mavericks are constantly fucking shit up and cities get levelled entirely at random intervals, and eventually shit goes so FUBAR that 60% of all humans die out at one point, then they go extinct entirely being replaced by transhumans.
>>750621124Games until X4 were skirmishes at most, its not until the repliforce happened it devolved into a full war and even at that the people there was still living fine
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>>750621124>>750621173I would say it was X5 when things started to go global. X1-X4 showed a majority of the incidents being isolated to a region. X4 definitely scales it up with Repliforce pointing a giant death ray at Earth, all in the name of peace of course :)
>>750621124not really. shit is bad but the standard of living for humans never dropped to low life level. For once they are kept safe underground most of the time while robots kill each other on the surface.
>>750608359No, it's megapunk
They never quite explain how utterly fucked Earth ended up after the Eurasia crash, that was supposedly an apocalyptic scenario that basically made the planet uninhabitable for god knows how long, IIRC that's also the reason why they made the jakob space elevator, to GTFO Earth and jumpstart the search for a less fucked up planet.Obligatory:https://youtu.be/8lFsUvSI49I
>>750608359It turns into Cyberpunk when Sigma lost his mind to Zero AIDS. Then post apocalyptic cyberpunk in X6
>>750621124In X the most you had were skirmishes. The only times it went to shit was a war because of a militia having the funding of a nation(Repliforce) then operation British (Sigma's colony drop). X6 was a few months after the drop so they're recovering from it. X7 the world's recovered somewhat but still a local skirmish between a police force and bounty hunters. X8 is a world project trying to hit the moon with an elevator. By CM the world's pretty much fine but they're still trying to get rid of pollution but that was a local skirmish that had the potential of affecting the world..
>>750610605fuck crazy people
>>750621410Well the thing is it wasn't THAT fucked up of an apocalyptic scenario. You wouldn't have the forests and jungles if it was. I remember some other thread pointing out that Earth being utterly fucked was the scenario that'd move you towards MMZ after somebody did mathematical calculations with Zero's numbers.
>>750621491You say it like it's a small thing but that already sounds extremely hopeless, X tries his best to fight against entropy and while he succeeds in defeating the mavericks he can't stop most of the damage they bring about on the world.
>>750617278I've always wondered if EM wave aliens weren't functionally similar to Cyber-elves
>>750621684>X tries his best to fight against entropy and while he succeeds in defeating the mavericks he can't stop most of the damage they bring about on the world.But he does, its only when sigma nuked the entire earth is when everything goess full blown apocalyptic
>>750621684Most were small things. X4-X5 was when shit hit the fan. X8 was a world project. Nevermind that a number of games happen in the span of a year and a half at most, like X1-X3, and X4-X6.
>>750621273>X4 definitely scales it up with Repliforce pointing a giant death ray at Earth, all in the name of peace of course :)Entire cities in X4 were leveled just from the intro stage alone, even if the death ray got stopped the damage was massive but not enough to make the world a dystopia
>>750622308It was 2 cities in the intro stage, then 2 more because Repliforce nuked them because lel.
>destroys the city>escapes into the seaWhat the FUCK was his problem?
>>750622512he loves his job
>>750622512>destroys a city and escapes to the sea>nukes a city with airships>develops space laser for satellite in a jungle>says fuck the humans and fucks up her programmingI think the repliforce berets just makes reploids retarded.
You know all robots, reploids, mavericks and even pseudo-humans run with AI, right?
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>>750622706heh>>750622725kekMaybe it needs heavy duty magnets to stay on and that fucks them up...>>750622810What was the lore behind him being a shoto?
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>>750622895>What was the lore behind him being a shoto?none, its just because he is fucking cool
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>>750608359Humans and robots/reploids always are separate types of beings until zx and zxa state that humans and reploids somewhat merged and by the time of legends humanity as we know it is extinct.https://megaman.miraheze.org/wiki/HumanoidI never understood why did the humanoids from zx have some sort of weird full body skin suit and that for some reason all human parts that were replaced by the goverment in order to augment people are stored and were supposed to be used on a sequel to zx advent
>>750622801it's ok, im brown and i love AI
>>750622919I can accept that answer.
I met a girl a few years ago who was a MegaMan zero fan but fumbled hard
Why did humans create androids with free will and gave them all these powerful built in weapons they could kill people with?
>>750622895>What was the lore behind him being a shoto?Self taught hand-to-hand fighting styleTorch Man pretty much reuses that background for MM11 and "Torchjutsu"
>>750622895They just wanted X to beat Sheng Long. Kind of like they wanted to give X hadoken and shouryuken with his armors, planned a tatsumaki senpukyaku with X3, then Zero managed to learn shouryuken and tatsumaki senpukyaku, and a chinese fox decided to develop a more destructive hadoken.
>>750608647>kid-friendly saturday morning cartoonThat's all megaman games
>>750608359MM is Atompunk and X kinda starts out as Atompunk and ends up at a mix of a few different things I'm not sure what you'd call it, but with like 80% of humanity dead by the end of the series it's not really cyberpunk since there's no evil corporations or cyborgs and it sorta becomes like mechapunk.MMZ and ZX is kinda weird, it should be cyberpunk but it's not really, it's more like biopunk/solarpunk? Since humans and reploids become indistinguishable from one another. There are ghosts or elves or whatever you wanna call em which I guess kinda makes it cyberpunk and it's built on top of the ruins of society.Battle Network you can straight up call Solar Punk and Y2K Utopianism.
>>750623060The X series sort of presupposes that Robot Master technology became lost, and X's Reploid framework is used to try and resurrect or recreate that technology from first principlesIf a Reploid wants a civvie life after whatever job they were created to do is finished, assuming they don't want to keep doing it because they enjoy doing it or were designed to enjoy doing it, they can probably get de-weaponized or put into some other frame and call it goodTl;dr Reploids have free will for the same reason Robot Masters already had human-level judgment
>>750621754When the fuck did sigma nuke the world? Is that why mmz is mostly a fucking wasteland?
>>750623060We are on the verge of finding that out for ourselves. Fun times ahead.
>>750622951>I never understood why did the humanoids from zx have some sort of weird full body skin suitThey don't and they're still called humans, not humanoids.
>>750623139Sigma nuked the world with the Eurasia colony because MMZ's post-apocalypse setting doesn't really work if there wasn't a huge catalyst but nothing else in the X series really presents an opportunity for that
>>750623139X5, it's when every thing in that series became an utter hellscape of death
>>750623123>but with like 80% of humanity dead by the end of the seriesBut that's wrong. Humans are pretty much fin in the X series.
So? Who was in the wrong at the end?
>>750623190Why tf did they never make a game that bridges both series? Thats just retarded or just an excuse to milk whatever subseries they want without having to worry for timeline stuff ig
>>750623220I mean they leave to go to the moon or whatever, so some survived but the ones that stuck around got merged with reploids so in ZX humans don't even exist anymore.
>>750621709I can see it. Both are digital life forms in a way that can posses machinery, but in turn can also be affected by an outside source (Wile corrupting the Mother Elf, Noise either hurting EM beings or making them go wild). Just that, Cyber Elves are man made while EM beings are not, with the exception of Wizards.They try to say that Le Mu was the creator of all EM beings, but it really doesn't work due to the fact that Mu should have existed before the events of BN even started, and I'm pretty sure Dr. Light WOULD have found some trace of a Wave World existing.
>>750623235Wily's actions butterfly effected into the maverick wars and from what i can gather Light never made the cyberpsychopath virus.
>>750623235Still Wily, dumbass.
>>750623252The latter, on top of Inafune fucking sucking at building out series and subseries, X5 was supposed to be the bridge to Mega Man Zero and he forgot to actually have a lead-in for it, similar story to Zero 3 being the ending to the series and bridge to something else and he fucking forgot he left Weil alive
>>750623190Even X6 sorta implies Zero's shuttle basically had no effect on the Eurasia and it still fucked up the Earth, just to a lesser degree as if it "failed".
>>750623139>When the fuck did sigma nuke the world?X5 when he had Operation British happen.>Is that why mmz is mostly a fucking wasteland?MMZ's world is a wasteland because of the Elf Wars that happened after X5's nuking.According to one post that actually attempted to put numbers, MMZ's human population was the end result of what would be the Elf Wars + the X5 ending where the laser and rocket didn't damage Eurasia so it damn near wiped out humanity.
>>750623139Zero happens after the elf wars which decimated 60% of humans and 90% of reploids, this is again, all the fault of both Wily and Light's rivalry.
>>750623235Both of them fucked up. Robots being heroes was a great idea by Wily but he was too prideful to fix his hubris and he eventually hit the point of letting the world burn if he could prove himself the better man. Light's ideas of making robots equal to humans was stupid but he took all the precautions he could besides never building the hyperadvanced bullshit in the first place that someone else pilfered incompletely anyway.Just because Wily's creation is the one that finally saved the world once and for all doesn't mean much when it caused the vast majority of everything that happened because of said creation anyway.
>>750623323X6 shows that the shuttle did damage to the colony but there was still damage, but that was more because of Zero Space bullshit too. But it's nowhere near what you'd get with if it didn't work enough.
>>750623339Imagine getting so owned that your seething indirectly kills most of the human population in the future
>>750623340Wrong post apologies>>750623412Meant for this oneNever really pla
>>750623139X5 begins with sigma enveloping the entire atmosphere with the sigma virus thanks to crashing the eurasia satelite with his bossfight being the catalyst, it became so concentrated and noxious that it was killing humans en masse and forced them to go underground by the time of X6
>>750623441NEVER REALLY PLAYED OTHER SUBSERIES BESIDES ZERO AND THE OG GAMES SO IDK A LOT ABOUT X'S TIMELINE.FUCK I NEED TO CHECK BEFORE I CLICK SEND I AM RETARDED
>>750623412That's basically the bad future (MMZ) where Zero couldn't be a hero and fly the rocket. X6 and later show that humans weren't all that fucked and they rebuilt.
>>750608359dystopian
>>750608359The society they protect is a paradise, a paradigm of a working AI culture.
>>750623513Unfortunanely the MMZ games are the canon timeline so yes, everything did went to shit
All Wily needed was the love of a robot son...
>>750623545Nah.
>>750623545Unfortunately, that is not how Megaman timelines even work. So your little edgy headcanon, is just that.
>>750623545>>750623513I think the reality is basically this >>750623396The shuttle did splinter Eurasia but it only reduced the initial impact rather than the total damage of the collision, the world is also basically a radioactive wasteland in X6.
>>750623468>NEVER REALLY PLAYED OTHER SUBSERIES BESIDES ZERO AND THE OG GAMES SO IDK A LOT ABOUT X'S TIMELINE.X is basically a dude named Dr. Cain uncovered X's capsule after Light died, copycatted him with Reploids but imperfectly so they had malfunction flaws, Sigma got made, Zero gets uncovered with a virus Wily left in him, Sigma got the virus, cue Maverick Wars for 8 games and then some as the series flipped between morals, programming errors, and genuine viral madness in the bad guys. Besides some villains preaching about morals and evolution, and personal character bits like Zero losing his first love in Iris, there's actually not that much plot to care about in the grand scheme of all of X besides X5's whole pseudo-finale-that-wasn't-a-finale-because-Capcom-wanted-more-money shtick.For as much contention as the Zero games have for difficulty, art design, leaving so much plot out because platformer games and too many ideas on the cutting room floor, they at least have arcs and stories to work through that see a damn conclusion.
>>750623563rather than love he wants to be proud of his robot son.
>>750623563Yeah right. Bass would've probably given him just that if he wasn't an asshole to him over Megaman.
>>750618772You sound like a maverick.
>>750623762>they at least have arcs and stories to work through that see a damn conclusion>guardians get nuked in the face because reasons>Z4 basically ends with Zero cycling back to his mentality from XEh.
>>750624134I'm shaking and crying right now. I can't believe he'd use the M word like that.
>>750624035tbf Bass is as prideful as Wily wanting to kill Megaman without any help.
>>750608359I keep thinking about this. I would love a Mega Man game that's an outright cyberpunk story.
>>750624582starforce 4 was cyberpunk but it got cancelled
>>750624582yes but who would be the evil corporation and would MM be a synth or full cyber?
>>750621124We've seen X's world in Command Mission's hub world(which was by far the closest we'll ever see of their world) and reploids were living the high life. Hard to find any decent pics on google but that one hub area looked liked what you'd expect those cities or background cities from those 3D Sonic games are like. Everything just looked high tech.
>born too soon to have a Shinnamon wifeHate this shit.
>>750617797I mean, you spend a lot of time out in the wasteland, but it's still pretty cyberpunk at its core. It's got a lot of cyberpunk elements, like fighting an oppressive system in a dehumanized technological dystopia ruled over by a flawed AI savior. It's very "punk" to me. Moreso than X where you work for the government without the moral ambiguity of say Blade Runner. Not that X doesn't feel bad about hunting but the plot makes it pretty clear it's a necessary evil
>>750625432X also makes a very clear distinction between reploids and humans, that reploids are just machines. Z and ZX blurs that line.
>>750625603>Z and ZX blurs that line.You're welcome. Have unprotected sex with reploids.
>>750625813Ohh, I shall
>>750608359It's just wacky Saturday morning cartoon scifi, man. Kids play it. Now if all of a sudden we get like a "Naoki Urasawa does Astro Boy" gritty reboot or there's some sleeper cell at Capcom that just really fucking loves the Protomen maybe I could see a new Mega Man subseries trending towards Cyberpunk but nah it's sci-fi or sometimes post-apocalyptic scifi.
>>750625892Don't...
>>750625918Man, Pluto was such a good manga. Never watched the anime for it though. I should get around to trying it. I bet it won't be as good as the manga though
Did you know human on human intercourse breads millions of diseases and birth defects while human on reploid breads 0 diseases and birth defects? Outlaw human on humans sex to save humanity.
>>750626010It's a pretty solid and faithful adaptation. Some stuff is rearranged or excised for the sake of pacing but they had 8 episodes and used them instead of stretching this bitch out to a standard 12.
>>750625962Fiiine. Tch, you're no fun
>>750625221That's the world in like 200 years when the Zero series happens in another timeline. The world was definitely fucked after X5 but thanks to X, it got better eventually.
>>750608647It's amusing to think that we're about 5 years away from real life mirroring MMBN. Already everything is connected to the internet and everything is constantly getting hacked. Just need AI to develop a bit more so we all have our own personalized AI assistants
>>750625892That's a literal child.
>>750624718>yes but who would be the evil corporation Wily, duh. >and would MM be a synth or full cyber?Synth.
>>750626034where do they get their coffee from?
>>750628983Beans.
>>750608359No. Its about robot on robot police violence not cyber-drugged gangster fantasies
I see Marvericks...
>>750631864This.
