>Skyrim version of 'Tamriel' ends up having the better written quests, characters and world design than the Morrowind mod
Morrowind's writing sucks balls and is by far the weakest part of the game, all they did was copypaste esoteric scriptures like Crowley and change the names
>>750594794Hah, good one but I've played Bruma you cant lie to me
>>750594794This is never completing.
>>750595075TR has plenty of playable regions, Beyond Skyrim gets leaked on /tesg/ every other month
I suddenly remembered Skyblivion>scheduled to be released in 2026
>>750594994The 'Fighters Guild' and 'Mages Guild'/Spire questlines in Bruma were both better than anything I've played in Mournhold so far, and the word looks much better relative to what it's representing (especially the southern and western parts of Bruma)
if they arent using AI to increase their mod development velocity then we arent playing sorry, this is an AI centric board and we're only interested in forward thinking projects
>>750595254idk about the main mods, but both of their discord 'modder showcase' channels are filled with AI mods now
>>750595229Mournhold is an official expansion not a mod.
>>750595420the area east of the mainland river is called the "Mournhold area content" since forever, unless they renamed it
>>750594918I think its the oppositeMorrowinds writing/story/unique lore is good and makes the janky landscapes, world and quests plappable Tamriel Rebuilt has shit writing/stories, no character, and no unique lore. The overall 'writing' is unironically at a lower tier than Dwarf Fortress or Mount and Blade at how shallow and lacking it feels. Its just 'stuff' but without a creative vision behind it.
FYI OP is constantly making threads malding over Tamriel Rebuilt for whatever reason. He's been doing this for weeks, possibly months now.
>>750595780>plappable
>>750595839>FYI OP is constantly making threads malding over Tamriel Rebuilt for whatever reason. He's been doing this for weeks, possibly months now.??????????????????? this is literally the only thread I ever made on TR, the fuck
>>750595839>FYI OP is constantly making threads malding over Tamriel Rebuilt for whatever reason.Maybe its different people who don't like it? Maybe Tamriel Rebuilt is kinda bad?Link some threads starting out by calling Tamriel Rebuilt bad, I want to read them.
>>750595175Q13 2025 actually
>>750595780>unique lore>it's just copy-pasted Indian religion
>>750595839>it’s just one guy criticizing this thing I obsess over!How to Out Yourself as a Schizo 101
>>750596869Please stop pretending you know anything about Crowley, indian religion, or Morrowind lore, it's embarrassing
>>750594918textbook example of a thought-terminating cliche>I don't want to read this 4 paragraph lore book, so I better come up with the more reductive way possible to dismiss it so that my preference is retroactively justified.galling laziness.
>>750594794How the fuck would you even know? Beyond Skyrim has not and literally never will even get to the same spot TR takes place on, their Morrowind project is literally set entirely in a bunch of islands up north that were part of vanila lol
>>750594794No it isn't. it's just the overall gameplay loop and dungeon looting experience of Skyrim, modded and vanilla, is WAY better than Morrowind. It's simply more fun. The only thing Morrowind has going for it is better RPG mechanics, which goes out the window once you mod in Requiem or something into Skyrim.Morrowind requires you to focus more on the Roleplaying and Worldbuilding to make it fun yourself. And no, i'm not talking about mechanical roleplaying and build making. I'm talking about autisticly creating a OC and deep back story for your character. A task only a few players can handle.
>>750598068besides Bruma a lot of their stuff got leaked
>>750594918i mean its a dune knockoff. but dune is giga kino and anything decent thats inspired by it is bound to have some kino rub off
>>750597685Alister Crowley didn't know anything about Indian religion either He was just a LARPer just like you
>>750598319Dune wasnt an inspiration, Dark Crystal, Star Wars (original trilogy) and MKs religious education is the basis for Morrowind. If you take off the cultural lens, Morrowind is VERY Much like the Star Wars originals
>>750594918>>750598319a lot of the random writing is meh/weak but the lore is still cooleverything is a heckin ripoff BTW, pseuds
>>750598403>religious educationby that I mean his literal university education in history and religionalso George Orwells 1984 was an inspiration for Vivec
>>750594794and taking almost a decade to release another big land update
>>750597685>crowley Bored retard with too much time on his hands that got BTFO in a harry potter style duel with WB Yeats and kicked down a flight of stairs.>indian religionA brown interpretation of aryan beliefs after their society was already in decline from mixing with the native population.>Morrowind loreCould have been generated by chatgpt.
>>750598068He wants to make a thread to whine about TR.
>>750598943>we wuz hindus and shieetdo hwites really?
>>750594918the lore is good. but the actual writing is literally just copy-pasted blurbs.
>>750598068Skywind exists though
>>750594794Too bad BS devs get pissing by people who leak their mod, TR doesn't leak because all of their dev data and lands are already on their website, free to use by everyone.
>>750599265Timmy means blessed by Vishnu
saying "the writing is bad" unqualified is like saying The Bible has worse writing than The Avengers.
>>750599478Skywind is not Beyond Skyrim and it also does not take place where TR doesThe only notorious post-Arena thing that has mainland Morrowind in it is ESO, and that shit sucks like just about everything else in that game
>>750599645Skywind takes place in Morrowind and in the same era bro
>>750598068>Beyond Skyrim has not and literally never will even get to the same spot TR takes place onTR restarted its development at about the same time BS started, and everything from before then that TR seems to have finished is getting reworked anyway, even most of Skyrim HotN is getting reworked. And they're both doing all of Tamriel anyway, but BS relies more on overarching questlines than TR which is why they're stalling so much.
>>750599775So? Skywind takes place in Vvardenfell, because it's a remake of the vanilla game, while TR's entire thing is that it adds the mainland, which won't be in Skywind because it wasn't in the vanilla game
>>750594918That’s not true, they also copied Dune.
>>750600290There is no piece of Morrowind that is akin to Dune, the only similarities are that they both take place in an Islam/MENA inspired setting
>>750595839Just equip the royal signet ring and become immune to all elemental magic
>>750599775lol this retard doesn't even know that TES III actually takes place in one specific part of morrowind and not all of it
>>750600330jfc the larp in these threads is untenable
>>750595839I'm so sick of schizo culture war nonsense.
>>750600441hes clearly b8ing both sides by saying completely incorrect things
>>750600513Name one thing you find similar between the two. Both are inspired by Islam but MW as per Kirkbride is inspired by Dark Crystal, Star Wars and his university studying of religions, no explicit mention of Dune. Nothing in Dune 1-3 resembles anything in MW barring that which is one-to-one to Islam itself
>>750595780TR's questlines are about on par with or better than vanilla Morrowind in my view of things. I feel like you probably just expect it to do the kind of shit Skyrim does when it's actively trying to tie itself to Morrowind and nothing else
>>750600903>TR's questlines are about on par with or better than vanilla Morrowind in my view of thingslooooooool
>>750600653Morrowind's main quest involves the foreign main character becoming a native nomadic desert tribe's prophesized hero. Though i kinda doubt that's a concept you could only get from reading DuneSome people also cite the fact that the Dunmer have "Houses" but that's definitely not something you need to read Dune to get
>>750600903>>TR's questlines are about on par with or better than vanilla Morrowind in my view of things.On a mechanical level there's more scripted stuff and the dungeons are better than Morrowind but ToMorrowinds writing is much worse than Morrowinds. There's no highlights, no highs, no plots, no new lore, nothing to discuss.
>>750601001>foreign main character becoming a native nomadic desert tribe's prophesized heroThis happens a lot in Christianity and Islam in general though albeit Dune is clearly about infiltrating a Tribe through prophecy to use it for world conquest while MW is gaining their trust to fulfill a prophecy by proving you were their original Nerevar (if you want to play it loose due to Zoroastrian influence this is technically the plot of the New Testament)Also Nerevarine isn't a foreigner technically, and the Ashlanders aren't technically nomadic(?), there isn't any space to be nomadic in the Ashlands.
>>750601043That's definitely not true given the state of Morrowind threads for the past half decade. Out of curiosity, how much of it have you even played?
>>750601275>>That's definitely not true given the state of Morrowind threads for the past half decadeIve been browsing them, in general they only discuss the Main Quest, the 3 Houses, the Mages Guild and the Fighters Guild and misc quests. None of the other guilds nor much of TR specific content outside of posting pics of the areas or the Sload Soprano or Monkey guy>how much of it have you even played>evenlolalso the mainland areas, not skyrim or cyrodil
>>750601268Pretty sure the Ashlanders are explicitly described as nomadic, you just don't see it because Morrowind doesn't have the tech for that. That's why the Grazelands have that name, it's where the tribes take their Shalk herds.
>>750601043>There's no highlights, no highs, no plots, no new lore, nothing to discuss.
>>750601419>Pretty sure the Ashlanders are explicitly described as nomadic, you just don't see it because Morrowind doesn't have the tech for thatI think the term is used in Morrowind but its not being used correctly if you get what I mean. Like, they're obviously using tents like they're Mongolians and shit but they never move nor seem to have where to move and their history doesn't treat them as moving muchNot to mention, IRL nomads have to move a LOT to be sustainable, while Ashlanders live in the Ash lands because of their own misinterpretation of the original religion + to get away from the Tribunal which is kind of silly
>>750601410>in general they only discuss the Main Quest, the 3 Houses, the Mages Guild and the Fighters Guild and misc quests.I mean, that's already most quests?It's not as if people discuss vanilla Morrowind's Imperial Legion quests much beyond remarking on how it's the worst one and also written by Todd Howard himself, and i see waaay more discussion about TR's Temple quests than vanilla's
>>750601419to put it in simple terms, there's a reason every nomadic tribe either covered huge swaths of land until they had to invade, or settled somewhere. Technically there's still modern Nomads >>750601001The first is just the concept of the Abrahamic Messiah, of which Bar Kokhba and Jesus/Yeshua are examples of, but they're all different interpretations of the trope (obvious Islam is Abrahamic)
>>750601609it's vastly superior to Morag Tong.
>>750601505Again, you don't see them moving because Morrowind doesn't have the tech for that. And they do have a fairly large amount of space, basically the entirety of Vvardenfell outside the southern coast to be more exact, it's not as if they're bound to the literal ashlands biome, which is why 3 of the 4 ashland tribes in vanilla Morrowind aren't actually found in the Ashlands.
>>750601043This bitch never even found Bel-Betu.
so much land never coming out
>>750601001You are nerevar. Reincarnated god from this place, you getting nomadic recognition is you traveling by your own footsteps in the lore. You literally promised to come back to them. You used to be the Great Ashkhan, of the united Chimer people.Nothing like Dune.
>>750601946>western morrowind-black marsh border has red terrainAre they also gonna have southwestern Morrowind be a desert? Weird trend
>>750601946Who cares about land? Competent devs could make whole game in small area of that map and make it more interesting than all of elder scrolls combined.
>>750601789almost none of it is farmable, and ashlanders dont trade much with outsiders, and the ashlands aren't just hostile they're one of the hardest areas of the game filled with Daedra and shit. If the uESP is accurate then this>Despite their nomadic lifestyle, it is not uncommon for tribes to periodically establish permanent or semi-permanent settlements for extended periods of time, for any number of reasoneffectively affirms what I said previously, that their terminology/lore is self contradictory and incomplete as the above very much contradicts the implication of Nomads, especially across a long period of time
Imagine if OP spent this much time talking about the things he liked instead of whining like a little bitch faggot.
>>750602179to bad they can't, they want to release the whole province in one package.
Beyond Skyrim never being fully completed, a shame but not surprising.
>>750602192Nomadic peoples usually don't farm y'know, they're usually either herders or hunter-gatherers, and I'm pretty sure we're also told and shown in the game's limited manner that the ashlanders are one of the former, herding guar, netch and shalk.And that quote sounds like some ESO shit to me.
>>750594794>tfw Beyond Skyrim: Bruma was 12 years ago
>>750601043Larping dipshit.
>>750603395nopeprove me wrong and explain how TR lore or writing is better than or in any way equal to Morrowinds
>>750603395Yeah I'm in MW threads all the time and people are always posting TR quests and moments and stuff.
>>750602746That quest was meh though. The interaction with Nerevar's zombie is literally nothing (and what was shown isn't needed), and it ends with a dialogue that culminates in a whimper. IMO the Hircine and even Alma quest lines were better handled while having a similar goal (meeting someone that important only alluded to for a while).
>>750602101it is stated said that there's a desert region named the dejasyte somewhere in southern morrowind in a canon in-game book. though weirdly enough TR's southern morrowind isn't actually supposed to be it at all and the current plan is to have the dejasyte from the book be purely mythological
>>750594794Skyrim is dogshit and no amount of mods can fix the core issues of the game opinion discredited
>>750604781>no amount of mods can fix the core issues of the game opinion discreditedalready disproven by Enderal
>>750604835How? Enderal is so boring. It starts strong but ends up boring just like Nehrim
I don't get why modders remove fast travel for games like skyrim and oblivion. Those games aren't meant to be played without fast travel because the landscape is big and boring. Morrowind map and world was smaller but more immersive. Nehrim and Enderal make the world big but boring
what is this thread even about? it just reads like a bunch of retards talking past each other
>>750604926good mysterygood dungeonsgood open worldprettier than skyirmprogression is still too shallow imo
>>750605271OP wants to whine because he tried to go into a Morrowind thread and got shamed for being a faggot, probably.
>>750605271No it doesn't
>>750605271OP presumably wanted to compare the writing and worldbuilding quality of two different modding projects for two different games but it also ended up sparking a conversation about whether or not Morrowind lore is cool and unique or akshually just copypasted hindu mythology and/or occultism which in turn ended up becoming a conversation about what a nomad isPretty standard 4chan stuff
>>750605280>good mystery>good dungeons>good open world>prettier than skyirmLike I said this might be cool and impressive for 50-100 hours but it's repetitive and boring, skyrim doesn't have unique diverse landscape like morrowind. Oblivion was even more boring in that regard but at least it had some swamp in the south which was cool
>>750605302This thread is praising Morrowind and shitting on TR though. Every time TR is criticized, TR fags starts constantly try to stir shit about how TR haters aren't true Morrowind players, there's like 5 examples in this thread, while also treating each Morrowind thread as a TR thread. Its very discord brained and its pretty noticeable compared to /tesg/
>>750605526>its pretty noticeable compared to /tesg/So head on back there, faggot.
>>750605176>>750605482Sometimes less is better. A smaller map and world is more suited for an elder scrolls game but you have to pack a lot of shit in it to make it a good game. Morrowind's world despite being smaller it feels big. While oblivion and skyrim map and world are big but pointless and boring
>>750605562no u
>>750598239>>750599941Doesn't change the fact that BS' Morrowind is a bunch of islands near Solstheim and doesn't even get close to overlapping with TR's mainlandIf anything OP should be comparing BS to Province Cyrodiil
>>750605526>while also treating each Morrowind thread as a TR threadi mean, they objectively have been one in the same since the 2022 releases loltoday was literally the first time in all these year's that i saw an attempt at a morrowind thread whose OP wanted no mod discussion whatsoever and it died fairly quickly
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>>750606102PC Anvil was so good bros
>>750595229>loads bruma mod>its just oblivion era loreyeah im good.
>>750606102Project Cyrodiil clearly mogs the only one with sovl
>>750604476>>750602746I liked that you can return Nerevar's ashes to the Mora Ancestral Tomb to get his armor
I AM CYRODIIL COME
>>750606219>Please ignore how half the questlines end abruptly and the map falls off into the void.
>>750607015I hate this gooner, I will destroy his moon vaults.
>>750608227Don't be a coward anon, tell us what's in those moon vaults.
>>750607015I love how this guy has an pseudo-incestuous relationship with his adopted mothers
>>750608338Apparently you're supposed to be able to swim in it, what's the lore implication behind it being so watery that you can swim in it?
>>750608406Swim in what, anon
>>750608586You know, *IT*!!!
>>750603395That's this entire thread, just some dude(s) who hate TR trying to start some kind of rivalry like anyone gives a shit. I bet this retard doesn't know that the Beyond Skyrim guys hang out in the PTR discords and vice versa.
>>750604781shota sex and female pregancy mods
>>750608346I like how they're kungfu prostitutes. I hate how PC doesn't let you learn prostitute kungfu.
>>750604781I disagree, if nothing else it's a very decent modding platform. Would have been nice if we could have threads discussing Skyrim mods that aren't completely saturated with porn addicts, but that's just how it is I suppose.
>>750608914>some kind of rivalryno, its a psyop by bethesda to shill sentinel
I have nothing against Beyond Skyrim, I'm sure that if they had a release schedule like PTR's think of their stuff as a fine fan rendition of what 4th era Tamriel is like
>>750609448Speaking of, according to the "insider report" that came out today, that game will apparently focus on the origin of the elder scrolls or something along those lines, which is a funny and worrying idea. Funny, because it's pretty clear that there was a meeting at some point in late 2000s/early 2010s Bethesda where it was decided that the elder scrolls should have a prominent position from now on because the franchise is named after them, in spite of the fact that they were really not that big of a deal beforehand.And worrying because I kinda doubt they'll be able to make it good and it will kind of suck if Redguar culture and history ends up getting shafted in favor newly written elder scroll lore.
>>750610371it was always bound to happen in the same away nordic stuff got shafted in TES V because the focus was on dragons and talos insteadi wonder if they'll retcon redguard lore into revolving around the elder scrolls like they did to nords and dragons, now that'd be hilarious
>>750610371Anon it was very clear that Hammerfell is just gonna be Wakanda just like Cyrodiil got turned into Middle Earth.
>>750610836>is just gonna be WakandaIt's more likely for Hammerfell to be a generic arabian nights Aladdin place. The Redguards have gotten less black and more arab over the decades, not the other way around. There were no Redguards with "al-" in their name until ESO, while Redguard characters from Adventures to Oblivion mostly had anglophone names clearly meant to evoke african-americans and caribbeans.
>>750611187That old bethesda employee's leaked research art was all african tribal stuff, not arabian stuff.
Modders should seriously just start making total overhauls set in their own original worlds, like Enderal, instead of wasting their time writing fanfiction for nerds who'll hit you with the "uhh, ackshually, this part of your lore contradicts this one obscure line of dialogue from some random NPC that you can only hear if you manage to charm him, even though he's hostile by default in the original game".I've heard that TR modders are even dumbing down their quest and making them simple and mmo'ish so they "fit" morrowinds OG quests because fans complained those quest where "unmorrowind like" or whatever
>>750598403You forgot Glorantha.
>>750594794beyond skyrim bruma was alright (some of the VAs were terrible or had awful mics thouggh) but tamriel rebuilt is genuinely amazing, it's almost jarring due to how much more effort went into some of the cities than the base game
>>750611343>dumbing down their quest and making them simple and mmo'ish so they "fit" morrowinds OG quests because fans complained those quest where "unmorrowind like" or whateverThat explains everything in this thread then
>>750611262Good, then. That's genuinely more faithful to what the Redguards are supposed to be than just having them be arabs and nothing else.
>>750612027are you actually stupid enough to think the game has even the slightest chance of being good?
>>750612027They're more like American blacks with some North Africa and tribal shit from back in the Yokuda days than they are full on african tribals. Did you ever play Daggerfall?
>>750612136No, very much the opposite in fact. What i am saying is that having african-stuff in Hammerfell is more accurate to (pre-ESO) Redguard lore than just having them be arabs.>>750612248In Daggerfall they were an entirely fantastical people who had dark skin AND straight hair and blue eyes. Like all the other races, they did not become their modern selves until Adventures: Redguard, that's where the comic i posted is from. What makes you think that the african stuff in the dev's pinterest isn't for traditional yokudan stuff, which is indeed meant to look african? My main point are that 1.it's more likely for them to he portrayed as just arabs and 2. that wouldn't be any more accurate than "wakanda".
>>750612540>What makes you think that the african stuff in the dev's pinterest isn't for traditional yokudan stuffBecause I have zero faith in Bethesda and they already proved way back in Oblivion that they'll just steal the setting from a popular movie instead of going with their own lore?
>>750607015>mfw reading up on this dude's PTRs loreThis stuff is just Imperial propaganda, right? It has to be.None of it really happened, right?...right?
>>750612629>steal the setting from a popular movie instead of going with their own lore?Morrowind was stealing lore from movies (the lore pitch was 'Dark Crystal Star Wars' and MK still sticks by it)Oblivion, as per Bethesda devs was a return to Daggerfall and was only inspired by LotR because LotR was popularThe Oblivion LotR comparison is overblown as Oblivion looks nothing like the LotR movies
>>750613410>Well yes you're right that Oblivion retconned prior lore to steal from LoTR, b-but Morrowind had inspirations and...So? My point remains. Sentinel is just going to be TES: The Black Panther. It's not going to do anything good with the lore that existed previously. Like Oblivion didn't, like Skyrim didn't. It's gonna suck. If you can simp for Bethesda after Starfield feel free. That's your choice to eat garbage, but I'm not falling for it.
>>750613509That's what Kirkbride always wanted.
>>750613336What propaganda advantage do you gain by writing about how your former emperor launched a space program for no reason except to put vats of his cum on the moons?
>>750613534He wanted it to be a hell of a lot more interesting and complex than a cheap copy of a cheap copy of a comic book franchise.
>>750613579Oh sorry, I thought you meant the black supremacist organization, because that's what he himself said.
>>750613626I'm well aware of how goofy he is politically anon, you don't need to try and act like my interest in his lore is pinned to his character and you can smear it that way senpai. You know damn well we're talking about T'chala here.
>>750613579Ive read Kirkbrides ideas on what Redguards ought to be about (he posted it a lot of times on reddit), obviously itd be different if it was a game but he himself said itd be about reverse blackxploitation and unironic black-recompensation for slavery (exact quotes) because in his opinion too much black fiction focuses on disempowering blacks.
>>750613726And it wouldn't be a cheap copy of the MCU, is my point. You guys seem to think I give a fuck about politics for some reason, there's way more to life and fiction than that. Stop being so obsessed.
>>750613534Not really, Kirkbride's Redguards are unironically pretty complex in terms of culture and aesthetic. They willingly and selectively adopt elements from their neighbors and the people they conquered while also being foreigners from an other continent. In that sense, they dress mostly like "normal" people (i.e medieval europeans and romans after their Breton and Imperial neighbors), yet they speak an african-inspired language and have a voodoo-inspired religion that is often syncretized with the Divines faith. Thus you can have traditional Tall Papa-worshipping Redguards and a temple of Arkay in the same city. Their architecture of course is arabian-looking and some of them wear turbans and such, though it's unclear if that's a yokudan thing. They're also great sailors and are often pirates, which i guess is due to the Caribbean influence.With that in mind wouldn't even blame Bethesda for collapsing them into just arabs or just africans, it's too much stuff to keep track of, specially when they have a fanbase like TES', which is for some unfathomable reason absolutely fucking obsessed with placing the playable races into these neat consistent little boxes of "real life equivalents".
>>750613534gayest thing that guy did, but he's american so he's been brainwashed since birth to be like that>make interesting (but very derivative) fantasy setting/lore>it has to have modern basketball-american garbage in it though
>>750613802>copy of the MCUSkyrim predates the MCU and even the Game of Thrones TV show and Vikings show? Skyrim didnt have any mainstream influences outside the ones Todd himself already spoke about per individual elements but none in the normal shit-on categorySkyrim was very clearly Bethesda trying to perfect environment design, its connection to level design and aesthetic and they did well enough to become the most popular RPG ever. That's not just impressive, its historic, no one has outdone them.
>>750613956That is literally just a noble savage view of normal historical Africans which if you knew history would sound turbo gayUnironically Redguards are the most stereotypical race in TES (in Kirkbride lore), the only reason no one notices is because a) mainline Bethesda doesnt seem to give a shit about them b) Theyre always side characters in every piece of content
>>750614056I said SENTINEL, the supposed subtitle name of TESVI, one of the largest cities in Hammerfell. Not SKYRIM.
>>750595839>somebody ACTUALLY made a meme that references that autistic bald fat retard that rambles on endlessly about a bethesda RPGwhy give attention to these losers
>>750614164Show hand
vulture race
>>750606102>Original Oblivion looks original and good>Skyblivion and Beyond Skyrim looking original too>Even ESO manages to look a bit original>Meanwhile Project Cyrodiil looks similar the Demaster slopGrim. And filled with Redguards too.
>>750614330monobrow race
>>750595229Mournhold sucks though. Which, I assume, is why they're going to such effort to renovate and replace it.
>>750614405>Meanwhile Project Cyrodiil looks similar the Demaster slopAre you blind?>filled with Redguards tooWhy do you think it's called Anvil?
morrowind mogs your r*ddit modnext
>>750616050cause I have eyes I can notice how both look equally colorless and samey. down to the sand everywhere look
>>750616050>Are you blind?He's a parasocial faggot just trying to start shit however possible
>>750617062It doesn't look anything like it and it came out before the Oblivion remake.
>>750617358Where do dogs even come from in TES? Do people in-universe even care about them? Tamriel's human cultures seem fixated on moths, bulls, and dragons, they don't seem to give a fuck about dogs
>>750618446there's at least one NPC in oblivion who has a bunch of dogs (i think they're a dog trainer)aside from that dogs are just sort of there occasionally
>>750618446They either came from et'ada spirits that were so fucked up that they didn't even retain their immortal reincarnating spirit, like mortals did, or else they're just raw creatia one of the Aedra formed into disparate living things as part of their contribution to the formation of Mundus. Similar to lesser Daedra to the Princes but fully cleaved from their being. You might assume out of hand that dogs were domesticated from wolves in TES, but there's really no reason to think that over dogs having been created as dogs.
>>750595780The Flin makes the janky Dunmer women plappable
>>750606102How did Project Cyrodiil wreck everyone else so hard?
>>750619670Bringing old lore Cyrodiil to life instead of just doing an Oblivion prequel in the Morrowind engine was the best decision they ever made
>>750614330they'd taste good i think
droopy hill giant
>>750623249Where'd you find a picture of OP?
>>750600903I'd like to argue with you about this, but there's like a 99% chance you just have shit taste and don't understand what "good writing" is supposed to look like.It's like when you're talking to someone and then they try and sell you on reading isekai light novels, or they talk about the amazing fantasy series they're reading and it turns out to be sanderslop, or how some people will mention how Veilguard has amazing characters and then you find out the poster you were talking to was a tranny the whole time.You're allowed to like TR. You're also allowed to like filthy cheeseburgers from McDonalds. Just don't sit there and tell me it's "good.">What if Morrowind, but reconstructed by transexuals with lore based entirely off of reddit fanfiction?I'll give trannies one thing: They can program. The tend to have decent aesthetic sensibilities when it comes to video games, too. But writing? No, they're always shallow, weirdo gooners who write fanfiction-sounding crap at best. They need to be kept locked away in some programmer gooner jail that smells like cum, and definitely never allowed to write dialogue or design storylines.
>>750624310What an adorable little sequence of non-sequiturs you've got here.
How can one anon be this mad about TR? We need asylums back.
>>750624527One theory is that's it's the old anti-MW shitposter who hates TR and goes after it because he blames it for people still talking about MW at all.
>>750595839NTA but i don't like Morrowind TR writing or quest too. last playthrough i was running around the hlaalu port city doing Hlallu quest and there was nothing cool that happened in the questline. hell one of the quest is to just check for which egg carton is rotten or not and the other is meeting some fat hlaalu noble and that's it.
>>750624691>One theory is that's it's the old anti-MW shitposter who hates TRLemme guess, he's the only guy who dislikes Morrowind in the entire world and he's Romanian too
>>750624884I guess they felt that doing merchantile shit was precisely the kind of gameplay the hlaalu should have and the fat hlaalu guy in question is supposed to be THE leader of all house hlaalu so i guess meeting him was supposed to be impactfulAlso that questline actually does objectively have a pretty memorable and unexpected ending
>>750594794That shit is never ever coming outBiggest waste of time ever. Never pit your trust in modders
>>750606102I actually forgot how bad Anvil looks outside of PC
>>750619805>old lore Cyrodiilits still not really PGE Cyrodil though
>>750594918the problem is the storytelling. is so damn boring.
