>>750594304
Aonuma is still traumatized by Skyward Sword and thinks linear zeldas are doomed for total failure. I would also imagine that there are many high up in Nintendo who would take anything that wasn't as successful as TotK as a failure

>>750594304
I have no intention of getting it because I already played it ages ago adn this is changing almost nothing.

But I'm glad it's getting made. There are those who only want that.

>>750595126
>release a dogshit looked, dumbed down oot
>it bombs
>"see? only modern zelda sells now"
obviously it's going to sell because modern nintendo consumers are cattle but still

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>>750594304
OoT remeake will succeed because oot was a good game

He's probably scared because Nintendo did 15 years of dogshit oot clones that sucked ass and he knows deep down they were soulless dogshit that only subhuman zoomulattos like

>>750595386
>please someone reply to me
>pleaseeeeeee
kys attention whore

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>>750595386
the remake looks soulless though

Everything about this remake seems like it's something soulless business types forced him to do against his will.

>>750594304
all this fucking faggot company is living on is nostalgia, without their cultist manchildren they would have died a long time ago, this company is simply too stupid to come up with new ideas/IP's nowadays so no wonder that fucking hack is worried about that soulless demake outsourced to pajeets being trash

Why /v/ likes to shit on nintendo remakes but give free pass to capcom remakes?

>>750594304
Why dont more Japs grow facial hair?

>>750596970
fuck your niggercattle remakes and ports. all of them.

>>750594304
I want more game developers to be nervous about their game's release

>>750594304
It will sell and it will further prove him that zelda is oot and not his gay retarded toon link shit

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>>750595386
Twilight Princess is a better game thoughbeit?
OoT wishes it had a single dungeon half as good as TPs.

>>750596970
Capcom change things. RE2make is a very different game to RE2 OG. OoT looks too similar in gameplay.

>>750597080
most cant.. genetics' a bitch.
Arabs and blacks have the thickest beards, followed by other races like whites, latino races etc, and asians came faaaar last.

>>750594304
he's unironically nervous because it's not an open world ubislopfest and literally cannot fathom a game being good otherwise

>>750597217
TP is a MUCH better zelda, but only if you remove those whole tear fragment collection garbage parts and some of the wolf sections... that crap drags the game down.
well now with that PC native port of TP, you can skip all that garbage anyway.. making TP on PC a masterpiece

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>>750594304
They should have given it to Koizumi.

>>750595126
Did Skyward Sword really fuck up that badly?

Never seemed that bad to me.

>>750595530

If left were revealed for the first time today, /v/ would be crying "tranny!"

>>750594304
It looks like absolute garbage and the added voice acting is the cherry on the shit sundae. If I were him I would cancel and pretend it never happened.

>>750594304
We live in a post-Botw world, OP. This lipstick on a pig is coming out alongside GTA.

>>750597386
he didn't "create" half the stuff in that list, at least not singlehandedly.

They should have made a modern day Zelda instead.

>>750594304
has a literal super army of nostalgic millenials that will buy and rate it 10/10 regardless of quality, aint nothin to worry about

>>750597640
I'm one of those millenials and I stand by what I said here
>>750597429

>>750597217
toilet paper is by far the ugliest and most boring pile of shit in the series. just a bland nothinggame that could be wiped from existence right now and nothing would change

>>750597393
It didn't do as well as projected and it was met with massive, very vocal backlash when it came out
General sentiment around the game has largely turned around in the modern day but people slandered the fucking shit out of it

>>750594304
Both Aonuma and Miyamoto are fucking clueless and out of touch.

Zelda's main appeal was never exploration or any of that bush burning shit. The entire meat and potatoes of this series is stepping into a dungeon and experiencing a micro-metroidvania. These retarded fathers of Zelda can't even comprehend that it's that this lockbox style puzzle solving is the only thing this franchise has going for it, and they completely ruined the formula with the baby-tier modular bullshit of BotW/TotK.

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>>750594304
Friendly reminder that all the shit changes like the Wallmaster disco light and the dumbed down puzzles are entirely on him. Miyamoto embraced getting lost.

>>750597386
A lot of this isn't even true, especially the part about adding story to Zelda. Miyamoto EXPLICITLY appointed him to write the story.

>>750594304
>releasing the most ambitious remake of all time which is faithful to a decades old game but still easily mogs all other games coming out
>it's basically also a movie tie in game
>also all the kids who are the target audience grew up with open air Zelda
>"nah I wouldn't be nervous"
Fuck off. Yes you would.

>>750597949
>stepping into a dungeon and experiencing a micro-metroidvania
this

>>750597393
It ended the Zelda cycle. BotW failed to redeem it like every game redeemed the last. People consider it fine these days but no one ever considers it great

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>>750594304
Damn, still buying 5 physical copies but damn

>>750598080
>the most ambitious remake of all time

>>750597393
It sold less than Wind Waker and Twilight Princess

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>>750598210
>the r34 we could have gotten vs the r34 we'll get

>>750598210
>>750598441
how can n64 graphics be THIS much more expressive?

>>750598080
>most ambitious remake of all time
>couldn't decide if it wanted to significantly change everything or be exactly 1:1 so it ended up as some bastard hybrid
>dumbed down despite the original not even being that difficult
>inconsistent levels of detail between locations and characters
>parading the boss rematches as new content when 3D already did it

>>750598597
by not out sourcing arts to jeets and trannies

>>750598783
Show any evidence that any transomen or Indians worked on the remake, ootsnoy

>>750598859
>ootsnoy
oh, this thing is here

>>750595126
he's probably right, linear zelda just isn't as good

>>750598080
You would think after dunno being in charge of making the entire fucking game he would have a clue over how it is?

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>>750597903
>could be wiped from existence right now and nothing would change

Say that again to Midna's ass, I dare you.

>>750599025
you have never made something in your life

>>750597393
I feel like people only hated it because they got filtered by motion controls

>>750599063
Post your CV then

>>750598859
He doesnt need to show any damn evidence.
You been living under a ROCK?? tons of """"japanese""" games these days are outsourced to indian poojeets and korean bugmen and the sort. Nothing is 100% japanese anymore, faar less than 100%.
I dare you to go look at the FF7 remake/rebirth end credits and you'll see for yourself. If you think Nintendo arent doing the same then boy, you are delusional

>>750599135
>oh so you hate waffles?

>>750598859
>ootsnoy
to the filter list you go

Thanks for the new games I can play on my expensive Switch 2, Nintendo. We got…uh… Mario Tennis… and uh… some shitty remake of a game I already played 30 times…

>>750597080
Beards are considered dirty in Japan. But yellow, crooked teeth are perfectly fine.

>>750599184
Just like how Snoy has the ball and gun gamers, Nintendo has the manchild demographic locked up. Quality games is not what moves consoles anymore maybe Microsoft was right about that.

>>750599139
>tons of """"japanese""" games these days are outsourced to indian poojeets and korean bugmen and the sort.
Such as?

>>750599428
zelda ocarina of time

>>750599428
Final Fantasy 7

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>>750599184
>Post lists of games
>"Uhh, those arbitrarily don't count."

There, saved us both the time.

>>750597393
It sold 3.6 million copies.
The next 3d Zelda game sold 35.6 million copies.

There were a lot of expectations and hopes placed upon Skyward Sword legitimizing motion+ controls and giving the Wii another leg of life. Instead it just presented Wii motion+ as an unreliable form of input and nailed the Wii's coffin shut for good until Operation Rainfall.

Still buying Ocarina of Time (2026)

>>750599971
>Still smashing my testicles with a brick
Uh... cool?

>>750599428
Go ask your favorite LLM, fag. The age of spoonfeeding is over.

>>750598859
let me guess, you need to check early life too

I haven't played OoT and MM in over 10 years so I'm excited to play the Remake. MM will no doubt get one as well. I do hope they change a few things, like make the bosses harder. Ganondorf is a joke today. But knowing Nintendo, they will likely make them even easier.

>>750599079
He said this as he struggled to navigate Outer Wilds

>>750597483
this, anyone who thinks differently isn't using their brain. he's worried it wont sell well.

>>750594304
What's the over/under of Majora's Mask getting the remake treatment?

>>750600774
I think Majora's Mask might be too scary and hard for games journalists these days.

>>750600257
>The age of spoonfeeding
Qrd?

>>750600774
That would be easy since Majora's Mask was already an asset flip game

>>750600257
I think not answering him is the reason people are going to AI in the first place, anon...

>>750594304
There will be a lot of grifters spreading negativity on release. There's money to be made there and its guaranteed clicks. There will also be the opposite toxic-positive extremely lenient reviews by retards. I suspect the serious critical analysis will judge it harshly and we'll all move on fairly quickly.

>>750596970
Capcom remakes are good (bar RE3 ) unlike almost everyone's remakes

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>>750599428
The other soulless remake we just got
FFX
FF7
Pokémon Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl
MG3
Silent Hill 2

>>750594304
if only it'd fail, but there's too many sheep out there to bail them out

>>750597483
>We live in a post-Botw world
idk why everyone forgets this

If the game doesn't sell well it means Switch 2 is effectively dead as a platform. Nothing has sold well on it, and if Zelda fails to move the needle then it's a sign the hardware has a bleak future.

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>>750599139
>He doesnt need to show any damn evidence

>>750601793
>Nothing has sold well on it
Mario Kart World did, but /v/ likes to pretend nobody bought it

>>750601852
You're right, my bad. Horizon is a staggering success with 40+ million sales. Thanks for the reminder.

>>750601948
>Horizon is a staggering success with 40+ million sales
Same thing applies here.

>>750601852
>Mario Kart World has sold approximately 1.47 million standalone copies (purchased separately at $80 without the hardware bundle) out of its early total of roughly 9.57 million units, with the vast majority (around 8.1 million units) coming through the Nintendo Switch 2 hardware bundle.
1.5 million for Mario Kart is terrible anon.

>>750602102
Guess you're just willfully obtuse. Switch 2 software isn't selling. Zelda is the make or break moment for whether this thing actually has a user base.

>>750602127
You know it's past 15 million now, right?

>>750602203
>it's not a lot because I say so
I can't imagine doing this in every thread for every platform without a hint of irony.

>>750602206
>>750602248
For your sakes I hope Zelda sells. The manchild army needs to save Nintendo. Horizon is a staggering success beloved by everyone around the world.

just like gta, there's no chance this game flops even if it's meh

>>750602720
What really matters is the long term effects these 2 games will have.

it's everything i wanted besides the puppet style
i guess with the new hacking mods might fix it, either way still boughted

>>750596970
Capcom's are different games telling the same story.
Nintendo's are the same game with new graphics and sound.

The art style looks like crap, everybody has a shiny block of hair like they're made of lego. I'm still gonna download the PC port whenever it gets made.

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>>750597393
Anon, Skyward Sword was supposed to be the next big thing for Zelda. Remember Donkey Kong Country Returns? That outsold Skyward Sword. I always bring this up, because Skyward Sword had all the tools to do better than Twilight Princess and Returns. Instead, it underperformed like others mentioned, and especially DKCR. Even the first DKC beat ALttP alongside DKC2. After playing Skyward Sword and seeing the overall reception, that keyed me in that Zelda fell from grace. Skyward Sword is straight shit and I'd take ten more BotW's before I take another Skyward Sword. Hell, give me ten TotK's, bullshit and all over another Skyward Sword.

If nothing else, Skyward Sword flopping was necessary, it showed me that Nintendo or Aonuma and Fubawhoba dropped the ball hard with Zelda and Breath of the Wild was their way of trying to wipe the slate clean. It worked, way better than they thought. You're only getting OoTR because they know just making TotK2 with five layers and making said layers larger won't cut it. This is a compromise to get normal Zelda games back in the conscious. But it also means that BotW's days may be numbered.

tl;dr, Skyward Sword did fuck up that badly, DKC is the champion of the DK franchise and BotW's future is on thin ice.

>>750594304
he honestly thinks only his open world zeldas can sell

>>750602102
Yup Mario Kart World is a success. Good point.

>>750602203
>Switch 2 software isn't selling
Yeah it is

>>750596118
spbp

>>750594304
It's mostly the same game repackaged, what is he nervous about?

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Riot if they shrink Malon's milkers.

>>750595126
aonuma is directly responsible for every 3d zelda after mm being derivative of oot until botw
and then he makes the botw sequel just a big dlc expansion for the first game
he's a bad lead dev and the stagnation of zelda falls squarely on him

>>750594304
You forgot to include the part of the article where he said the game isn't modern enough and doesn't direct the player enough, thus they expect nobody to like it.

>>750603479
>Skyward Sword had all the tools to do better than Twilight Princess and Returns
fuck no it didn't lmao

>>750605338
Wait til you hear about how EoW got its story. It's hilarious.

>>750605907
He should've watched this for inspiration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIssjB5S6mM

>>750594304
He should be nervous because the character designs are terrible and environments look extremely generic

>>750606115
Yes it did, I'm being nice when I say that. A new Zelda title on the Wii that wasn't a port? That was enough to get people hype. I know I was. The execution was all on Aonuma/Fuba and they fucked it up. They weren't going to get 100Mil+ sales but it damn sure could have rivaled TP's sales on the Wii.

>>750604950
BotW becomes obsolete if this game does record numbers. The top brass demands a return to non-BotW Zelda.

>>750594304
He wants OOT Remake to flop so it can fully justify abandoning the classic timeline entirely in favor of BOTWslop.

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>>750594304
>knows that the game is only well regarded as a product of its time
>nobody is actually going to give a shit about it now that people have thousands of easily accessible games as immediate comparisons
He knows it's going to shit all over the legacy of the original and is going to have a very vocal but underwhelming amount of support on release that will quickly fizzle out.

>>750595386
who says you can’t make a semi open world zelda in the classic dungeon style? why can’t we do dungeons out of order and quests out of order and take alternate paths to the dungeons? Zelda should inject some dark souls 1 world building into it instead of the ubisoft slop approach theyve taken

I'll be playing it for free on my Windows PC, that should concern Nintendo. They are right to be afraid.

>>750605907
Is that why he dumbed it down and made it even easier for people?

>>750606797
It's insane how nobody has been able to recapture the DS1 non-linearity

>>750607054
The answer will always be yes. OOT Remake is supposed to be 2026's blockbuster title for holdiay season, so it needs to be as accessible as possible to the braindead ADHD dopamine-fried retards of the modern era.

>>750606797
It is kind of mystifying that Elden Ring showed them the exact path they should take things in... and then they decided to not do that and double down on all of BotW flaws and make a fundamentally worse game

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>>750594304
I do not envy Aonuma, he has to follow up the paragon that is Tears of the Kingdom. First step is in order, nervously sending out Ocarina of Time into GTA shark infested waters.

>>750594304
Using that picture of Aonuma is interesting to me. He got knighted in France due to his contribution to the arts. So why is he so uncertain about the games success?

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>>750606664
>port
shut up, retard

>>750594304
In a perfect reality, this slop would bomb and almost bankrupt Nintendo and Aonuma will resign in shame and then run infront of a moving bus.
Unfortunately we do not live in such a perfect world, we live in this shitshow.

>>750595530
Nah, she's still fucking cute and sexy

>>750607582
It can still flop by selling worse than BOTW or even TOTK, but the main difference is Aonuma is actually secretly relieved that the old way is dead and that the original magic dragon is no longer desirable, which just means the next mainline Zelda will be BOTW3.

>>750607643
It's not selling anywhere close to Botw, fucking tard.

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>>750594304

So when should we expect someone to get it early and stream it? Monday?

>>750606441
Just tell us faggot

>>750607643
How is it supposed to sell as much as BoTW on a system with like 1/10th of the userbase of the Switch

>>750597259
I've read something that the original japanese all could but korean and chinese genetics mixed in and fucked that up.
I'm talking about thousand of years ago btw so ignore the modern labels.

>>750607796
They worked backwards from a gameplay standpoint and the only way to make it work narratively was to invent an origin story for evil itself.

>>750607815
Because the expectation is that if OOT is the legendary universally beloved game everyone yearns for after having been trying to recapture OOT's magic ever since the 90's, only for every single game using the OOT (actually Link To The Past) formula to get nowhere near OOT's sales, then surely it'll sell Switch2 units all on its own.

>>750594304
He should do majoras mask wind walker twilight princess the ds games

>>750607581
Twilight Princess was revealed for the Gamecube, stupid. The Wii Port was considered AFTER the Gamecube version was already deep in development, regardless of WHEN it released.

>>750607864
Even though we already had a primordial evil origin story in Skyward Sword, it also serves to spitefully tell you every timeline except the Downfall timeline is raped by this new primordial evil that coexisted with Demise since the dawn of existence because the new evil is ONLY killed in EoW.

>>750607947
>Port
shut up, retard

>>750607989
It being killed isn't the real point of it, Hyrule itself was created by the goddesses to seal it away. Ganon wants to rule Hyrule, so Null is never going to escape in his world.

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>>750608010
Concession accepted, now go play with the other kids.

>>750594304
I gotta thank him for raping my nostalgia to death to the point were this won’t even exist to me since it looks and sounds like shit, even the music is worse

>game is literally 1:1
>demakefags “reeeeeee”

>>750608081
Adult Timeline's fucked because no one told the kids "hey, hold onto the Triforce for your new kingdom, it's the only known thing that can kill this other primordial evil that will one day awaken and devour all of existence", Child Timeline presumably got fucked nice and early because it ends very shortly compared to the others.

>>750607617
kindly kill yourself

>>750608216
They need their childhood to matter, lol.

I've done a complete 180 on this remake. If it's going to be free and available on PC that's a whole other thing; that's exactly what it's worth.

>>750603479
lmao, everyone was bored stiff of the formula by the time SS came out, it was DOA

>>750608216
>literally
it's literally not but you don't know what literally means on top of being a jeet

>>750608446
TP was the best selling Zelda title at the time, the 'formula' wasn't fucked until after Skyward Sword, not before it. A lot of people were hyped for SS, regardless of how it turned out when it released.

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>>750608216
>>game is literally 1:1

>>750607758
When the firmware update happens on thursday.

>>750608216
There was a jump button that wasn't sidehopping or slash attacking in the original?

>>750608752
They are doing impressive stuff with that artstyle. I'm convinced /v/irgin are just too retarded to appreciate it.

>>750608648
how many consoles had TP released on, captain retard?

Koizumi should have been brought back on. Eiji's just bitter and ruins anything he touches now.

>>750608752
>have to tell the player with a massive bright light that the hand is coming down
>give it an escape window
Truly they don't understand the game they're remaking.

>>750608956
true, telegraphed bisexual disco lights are certainly interesting

>>750608931
unfathomably based, pirates btfo

>>750609017
Wii, Gamecube.
What are you trying to prove? Use your words like an adult.

>>750609076
Make that retarded and gay, far too retarded and gay to appreciate it.

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>>750609510 >>750610959

We could have ToTK oooga booga all over again at this pace.

>>750608956
The problem with that clip is that they babyfied the wallmaster mechanic.

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>>750610737

I would also be nervous if I ruined Zelda

>>750594304
will be reverse engineered before it's released

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>>750603479
>port
picrel when port sells more

>>750609269
I don't think that's true, there's more interaction with it, which makes for a better game overall.

>>750609167
wow this is the power of pc... truly incredible stuff. Emulatorfags are in two very polarized camps when it comes to how they perceive performance and accuracy.

>>750609475
what interaction?

>>750594304
he's nervous cause if OoT outsells BotW Nintendo will force him to get rid of his shitty new zelda and go back to traditional

>>750594304
Grim shit, like he's hoping to get lucky and have a hit or something.

>>750609475
You mean completely negating the threat of being ignorant to your surroundings?

>>750609419
I'm not denying that the port sold better. I'm saying that it's a port. The Gamecube version was the initial version. Porting it to the Wii would guarantee the game would succeed vs. the Gamecube's middling sales. I'm not denying that. I'm simply saying that if you had a Gamecube, you could get TP easily. You didn't need to get a Wii to play TP, but for those who didn't have a Gamecube, the Wii version was a selling point for a new console.

Anything else?

>>750597362
>TP is a better game if you remove all the shit parts
So it's not better then.

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>>750609914

Is there any franchise that makes /v/ seethe as perpetually as Zelda?

>>750608272
You first nigger.

>>750609839
Ignorant post my brother. This series is potentially in for a rough future. They can't keep copy/pasting BotW.

>>750609914
They can't keep recycling OOT/LTTP either, it was already proven NOTHING could reach OOT's sheer profit potential. Franchise is in dire straits, the only option is to reinvent again, but that risks an identity crisis that kills its value even more.
Depending on how well the movie does, it may unironically influence how they go forward with the games, or if it flops, it may be a sign to start sidelining Zelda entirely.

>>750595386
Retard.

>>750598080
>Faithful

>>750600662
>>750600774
Actual shit for brains retards.

>>750596970
Because /v/ is full of Snoys who take any victory where they can

>>750594304
Or he's worried that it will rightfully be pirated and thus won't sell anywhere near as much as he'd like it to.

>>750594304
this is a 180 from miyamoto confidently entering the stage at E3 2004 even though everyone hated wind waker

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>>750610646 >>750610675 >>750610770 >>750610794 >>750610808 >>750611529 >>750613556 >>750615980

>When FF7R came out, /v/ shat on it for not being an almost 1:1 remake of FF VI
>Oot Remake comes out soon and /v/ is shitting on it for being an almost perfect 1:1 remake with slight gameplay tweaks
Make. Up. Your. Fucking. Minds.

>>750600985
This dude is a retard

>>750610590
>/v/ is one person
>/v/ has earnest opinions and isn't always choosing the opinion that will get the most ragebaiting engagement because the very act of online interaction is monetized now, so even in nonmonetizable spaces the mindset still applies

>>750610590
>VI
VII.. but yeah, it's the Nintendo tax.

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>>750609320
they had one fucking job

>>750610590
>Oot Remake comes out soon and /v/ is shitting on it for being an almost perfect 1:1 remake
>it was real in my mind

>>750597483
but BotW isn't very good

>>750610590
/v/ overhates the FF7 remakes square fucked some shit up but they are still good overall

>>750610590
>Almost perfect
They couldn't even get the fucking title screen right you subhuman nigger cattle. The rest of the game looks nothing like OoT or it's art style and they've actively dumbed shit down and redid entire portions for fucking morons like you. Apparently, zoomer faggots like you aren't smart enough to read the text in the original telling you to ask Navi about a monster's weak point so they had to add a big glowing blue scar to them. Stupid cock sucker.

>>750610770
Literally all the gameplay shown off is literally just OoT with a new coat of paint and some tweaks.

>>750610627

Most Nintendo haters are.

>>750610808
>Autistic melty over the truth
Let me guess, you're 25 and highly autistic?

>>750609167
Make sure to donate to their patreon!

>>750610928
>Doesn't even deny it
Smack every broccoli top upside the fucking head.

>>750595386
Wind Waker Remake and Twilight Princess are good.

>>750611005
No they're not

>>750611056
oh ok. My mistake. I guess I made up the fun I had playing them. Weird.

>>750595126
If the success of this game revives linear Zelda games, I'm boughting this game twice plus DLC. Fuck BoTW and ToTK

>>750611005
ToiletPaper definitely isn't a good game

>>750610876
it's not a 1:1 remake and it looks like shit

>>750594304
At the end of the day this is a game for children, and grown adults shouldn't even be thinking about playing it

>>750595126
Skyward Sword sucked because of wagglan, not because it was linear

>>750611131
Yeah, you did. You should try playing actual Zelda.

>>750610590
It's very simple, FF7 was a perfect game that just needed visual overhauling to always look like the atmospheric pre-rendered cutscenes and backgrounds, everything else was great

OOT was a janky empty piece of shit tech demo that needed a complete rethink to be considered good or worthwhile in 2011 when the first remake hit, let alone today in 2026, there is literally no reason for this game to exist in this state other than being an easy holiday nostalgia cash-in for Nintendo

Its going to sell well a lot of normies are genuinely excited for them its like a new Zelda game its sad this game doesnt have Master Quest but it does have Hero Mode

>>750611272
And the story and plot being mediocre
And the shallow dungeons
And having the lamest Zelda
And having an ugly art style
And excessive padding

>>750600985
That's not a good sign.

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>>750611234
Grown adults are the only ones who can afford video games, get a clue.

>>750612130
>shallow dungeons
Tell me, what do you think of OoT's dungeons today...?

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>>750612898

>refuse to make linear zelda for over a decade
>create big budget remake of best known most loved linear game in the series
what is his plan here?

>>750612130
If you think fucking Skyward Sword has bad dungeons I don't know why you're even in a zelda thread

>>750597393
>Did Skyward Sword really fuck up that badly?
>Never seemed that bad to me.
nta but as someone who isn't even a "nint oddler" the wiiu bombed and i thought that console was great
like it had your mario mainline platformer, a splatoon game, a pikmin game, monster hunter 4u, probably some other shit i'm forgetting
but nintendo are jews, being good isn't enough it needs to be popular and really successful
also why the fuck do i only ever get messages saying the system thinks my post is spam ONLY when i type "nint oddler" in a post

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>>750612917

Why did they make zelda look mexican/amerindian? Look at her facial structure.

>>750612645
The Iwata era is long over. They're slaves to the shareholders now. The current president at Nintendo is a fucking accountant

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>>750612851
she looks like a cute little kikelet who needs correction for clipping coins

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>>750612898
Next year marks a decade since he took control.

>>750612989
Abysmal. I bet this fucking freak lets his wife crush his balls with her stiletto shoes

>>750610968
I mean, even if he did you would have just said he's lying. But seeing as you didn't deny his, I'm guessing you are the actual Zoomer here and you're unironically pretending to be a millennial

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>>750610590
>remakes are always bad, no exceptions
Seems pretty consistent to me, famalam.

>>750597393
I feel like half of its missed sales were due to mandatory wii motion +

>>750603479
>It worked, way better than they thought
shame totk is trash and proved botw was good by accident

>>750613880
retard

>>750611005
TP is dull and brown, with minimal replay value.

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>>750594304
>original version has wrong path you'd have to correct yourself from taking if you messed up
>new version has the path stop so you'll automatically be guided towards the right direction
He should be nervous. This remake is so embarrassed of the original design that it thinks even the first tutorial dungeon needs to be simplified. But don't worry, it'll sell really well and get >90 on Metacritic and people acknowledging the subtle dumbing down of every tiny moment of friction will be brushed aside as curmudgeonly old fools.

>>750597393
It's the only 3D Zelda that isn't at least decent

>>750595386
Partially true. Wind Waker did have the potential to be on par with OoT/MM, but it was unfinished. A remake that adds the cut content and cranks the difficulty up would be great.
Twilight Princess feels like a cynical rethread of OoT, but for extra edgy teenagers and featuring the worst pacing in the series. It's not all bad, but I don't understand why some people defend it like it's the peak of the series, maybe it's nostalgia goggles or Midna's ass.
Skyward Sword was a game built around a gimmick, but what really drags the experience down is how the world is structured and how repetitive it is. A shame, because some dungeons are the best in the series.
So the real problem is that for every good feature those games had, Aonuma made two or more braindead decisions to bring the whole thing down. Breath of the Wild is also a flawed game, but the good far outweights the bad.

>>750600662
>I do hope they change a few things, like make the bosses harder.
They're making the damn skeleton fights easier. I'm sorry anon

>>750598968
Exactly. Good thing OoT isn't linear.

What it up with fuck thinking Ocarina 'represents' linear games when it's still the closest thing in the whole series to the structure of LoZ.

>>750610737
NuOoT Zelda looks awful

>>750610590
OOT remake is kinda lame but FF7R is atrocious

>>750597949
>Zelda's main appeal was never exploration or any of that bush burning shit. The entire meat and potatoes of this series is stepping into a dungeon and experiencing a micro-metroidvania.
You are an absolute retard and everything that is wrong with the series. The overworld exploration has always been vastly better than the shit you do in the dungeons outside of combat and action challenges, the formulaic gimmick of getting the one dungeon item later in the dungeon so you can actually do new stuff and then using it in a bunch of rooms is inferior to dealing with open problems that demand you think about the entire world and what might be possible in it. I have no idea why Zelda puzzle-dungeonfags even exist, especially given how few actual puzzles most of the dungeons even have.

>>750594304
If they had balls they would add new dungeons and enemy behavior, instead of merely ruining the visuals.

>>750616643
They DID add new enemy behavior, though.
...It's just that most of it is in service of casualizing the game, like adding designated glowing weak points, or in some cases like Skulltulas, encouraging mindless button mashing instead of waiting, because they unironically got insecure about Egoraptor's video where he complained about how much waiting you have to do in the game.

he's hoping it bombs so shiggy will set him free

>official nintendo ocarina still not on sale a week before game release

come on nintendo, how the fuck am I going to immerse myself in the game without having the necessary trademarked equipment

>>750595386
because he intentionally fucked them up so they finally let him make his grand opus botw with copypasted garbage open world mechanics. currently, he's nervous that he didn't fuck up the remake enough so they might sell better than botw, and then he can't keep making his dogshit openworld approach anymore

>>750608932
This legitimately doesn't matter unless they actually use jumping in ways the original didn't.

>>750616879
They already are, the mini-challenge to get the Kokiri Sword is about learning how to jump now instead of learning how to use camera controls because of how much smoother and intuitive they are in the remake.

>>750611529
>FF7 was a perfect game
>OOT was a janky empty piece of shit tech demo
Lol I don't even want to understand what you're trying to say. FFVII is a 'game' where you walk around JPRG backgrounds and press the O button occasionally. It's absurdly simple in what it allows, and all of its complexist goes into selecting shit from a menu and watching elaborate animations. OoT is vastly more refined and responsive and allows so much more possible interaction with the world it doesn't even need defending.

>>750595386
Based. All three were shit. Aonuma never understood Zelda.

>>750617164
Neither does anyone else except Koizumi, but he's probably dementia-ridden at this point, just like Miyamoto, so there's truly no one left.
Time to let the franchise die. It's not worth parading its corpse around anymore.

>>750599079
They were pretty bad overall
>Swordplay is novel, but never really feels like you're actually swinging a sword around and makes a even basic enemy encounters take too long
>Bow/Clawshot aiming is nice I guess
>Pretty much everything else it's used for is superfluous and could've just as easily been mapped to the analog stick

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>>750616927
>jumping is now a monumental and life-changing experience that makes the game insanely innovative and difficult

>>750617607
It removed anything about the combat that actually felt cool and like a fight was happening, and instead turned everything into a super-telegraphed simon says game. I mean waiting for the enemy to lower their guard is telegraphed too, but at least that feels like something you'd actually do in a sword fight, instead of "oh he moved his shield LEFT, cut right to left!"

>>750616927
>can see the sword chest as soon as you enter the area instead of it being tucked in the corner
it's worse

>>750599079
There's a lot of things people dislike about Skyward Sword, some minor and some major. It's overall reception to this day suffers a death by 1000 cuts. Motion controls, late in the console lifespan, more challenging (arguable) combat and puzzles, hit or miss art style and character/enemy design, repetition in many forms (especially bossfights), dowsing, tadtones, barren sky hub, etc.

>>750597080
>Why dont more Japs grow facial hair?
Nip women think facial/body hair is gross

>>750601269
FFX was never remade, retard

>>750602203
Retard lmao

>>750618696
The HD remaster.. and there's rumours X might be getting a remake

>>750618696
>>750618832
After seeing FFX 2.5, I don't trust Square with remaking anything. What a trash heap that was.

>>750595530
>hid her belly button
BOOOOOO
HISSSSS

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>>750619270
>they will use AI
YOU WILL CONSUME THE SLOP

>>750619706
I've seen their work without AI, it wouldn't be much worse.

>Tidus kicks a volleyball that's actually a bomb
>his head gets blown up
>this revives Sin
>Auron has a daughter that speaks in ebonics

Why do poorfags keep seething over games they're never going to buy for consoles they don't own?

>>750619817
Not what happens. But sure

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>>750596970
I have not bought a single Capcom remake and have bought Ocarina of Time remake.
Yes, /v/ is one person, and that one person is me.

>>750594304
He's nervous because even a dumbed down version of OoT is going to be better than the Ubitrash Zelda he's been making for the past decade. He's afraid he might have to start making real Zelda games again.

>>750620232
He's never been able to in the first place, there's a reason every single OOT-like he made has failed to sell better than OOT.

>>750595386
/thread

>>750620018
You're right. It's a blitzball, not a volleyball

>>750594304
>BREAKING NEWS: man is nervous
>"OOOOOHH MAN EVERYONE LOOK!! HE NERVOUS!!!!! CRAZY!!!!!"
How has society come to this?

>>750598080
>ambitious
>remake
blessed nintendo fans

>>750594304
Shouldn't have hired that man.

>>750607269
The problem is that most Nintendo fans fucking REFUSED to say anything critical of BotW for YEARS. Many still do.

>>750598597
because her eyes are drawn, so you can get the exact face you want by simply drawing the faces. new games have 4 billion bones no one wants to manipulate, so they make everything from one skeleton and mesh, with generic expressions that barely work on any character.

>>750595126
>I would also imagine that there are many high up in Nintendo who would take anything that wasn't as successful as TotK as a failure
It's this one.
Aonuma has demonstrated through the entire presentation of OoT Remake that he knows exactly what the Zelda sauce used to be, but he's just afraid that it isn't accepted anymore, and he feels he has to explain it, and ultimately the real reason why he feels this is because he knows what the pressure is like from above any time Zelda got in trouble as a brand, and I guess he also fears outright getting fired. I know JP firms don't do that, but they'd demote him, and then he'd have to be pushed into quitting on his own, which is a social taboo in Japan.

>>750597393
Skyward Sword was terrible, but not because it was linear. The waggle and forced motion controls ruined the game and its immersion. The HD remake with regular controls was a solid 8.8/10 game.

>>750597393
Skyward Sword is bad on Disney Star Wars levels.

Thread with sauce because OP is a faggot

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>>750595267
I have a feeling it'll sell around 5m. I think there's lots who preordered it on memory alone, a mix of idiots who played BotW/TotK and just think anything new with "Zelda" on it is real, and they bought this despite skipping LA or EoW because this doesn't look like a "side-game" with the realism and lush grassy fields like BotW had.

Then they'll play it and get confused and go "Whuh...??? People think this is GOOD? You can't even cut trees!"

The game will be good, but I wouldn't be surprised if it only lands on around 82 metascore, with a mix of anti-nostalgia contrarianism and people who genuinely find this to have lost the magic and vibe of the original due to the overly slick presentation, and lack of sovl.

>>750611005
playing through TP lately
this game is kinda fucking shit and just feels like an expanded OoT with lots of neat ideas but really, really poor and pace-breaking execution. and where they tried to go big on story, they don't deliver because virtually everyone that isn't link, minda and zelda get brushed aside or fuck off to do things off camera and never actually matter to our general narrative anyway. after all the years of you people hyping it up i genuinely just do not get it, and it's not like i'm a funless SOB but hot off the heels of OoT it feels really worse in most regards.

>>750620384
TP outsold OoT, but that was a game Aonuma didn't have his heart and soul in. But he knew he had to pitch and make it anyway because of how badly the toon games up to that point colossally shat the bed (WW sold about half of OoT, and the Four Swords-related games were all outright flops), and he kinda had to own that and make it right marketwise since the toon style was HIS baby that he snuck past Miyamoto in the first place.

>>750600985
How do people even manage to get hired without having experienced the original product(s) when they work in the video game industry? That admission should disqualify you as a potential hire.

>>750624207
TP was always rotted shit compared to OoT.
It wants to be the successor to OoT, but they didn't keep things as simple as OoT, not as open ended between parts of the game, and somehow they made TP's story both more complex but also completely inferior in every way that matters in terms of writing. Characters are individually worse in TP than any of the ensemble from OoT and OoT's cast wasn't even that much more complicated than the characters from BotW to start with, and they also fuck up basic exposition in TP, like in OoT where the Deku Tree tells the myth of hyrule to establish the Triforce and then show Ganon, Link and Zelda fighting over getting into the Sacred Realm, and then using it in the end of the game again. That's really basic, but everyone who played OoT fucking got it, and it's simple fantasy lore that works. But in TP there's a "mysterious" cutscene where Link has no pupils and sees his old friend and it gets very eerie and spoopy, and then it says everyone fought over the Fused Shadows or something, and then Midna uses it towards the end where she turns into a giant octopus, and they yell as if something awful is happening.

The whole Twilight shit in TP lacks definition. How is it bad, exactly, that half of Hyrule is engulfed in otherworldly clouds that make some people disappear, if it doesn't really hurt anyone? All we see are some guards who can't see the ghost-rats be like "aaah, something is scary" and this is supposedly the main threat of the story? Then you remove literally all of it halfway into the story, and the rest of the game lacks any urgency.

Where OoT shows the world being "destroyed" halfway into the game, TP just shows Midna getting hurt and then being fine again, and from there the narrative really begins to crumble.

>>750594304
aonumale