>*kills your entire family*Your response?
That didn't happen.
force her to make me a new family
Call xer a man
Tits or GTFO
>>750581667BEATRIIIICEEEEE!!!
she left my brocon imouto alive so it's okay
*jumps out of the window and somehow latches it from outside*
>>750581667>revealed to be trans>people stop giving a shit about the franchise foreverafterFunny
should i read umineko if i just want to read a mystery i can solve? like pheonix wright
>>750581667Quite frankly, the family deserved worse. What a bunch of shitheads. Should have put them in the torture basement for a few years before killing.
>>750581667>*crush her puny microbombs with my big fucking hands*What now, bitch?
>>750582769The first chapter is really good but everything afterwards has a lot of trannism
>>750582769yestreat the questions arc as 4 chances to solve the mystery on your own each chapter
>>750582941 that's a big hand
>>750582769Solving Umineko requires many leaps in logic, but you can try. Just read until the end of EP3. If you don't click with it by then, drop it.
>>750581667cant believe i wasted like 50 hours of my life reading the first 4 chapters... what a piece of SHIT VN.At least the music was kino as fuck.>>750582769Noooooo!! dont make the same mistake i did! dont listen to ANYONE telling you to read this piece of garbage. Chapter 1 and maybe even 2 was decent and had its cool mysterious moments and good parts, but it doesnt get better.
>>750583408>50 hoursspeedreading zoomoid alert
it didn't happen cause i didn't see it personally
>>750583121>big handfor YOU.It's a huge hand....to grasp those BBCs, you're outa luck.
>>750582034This
>>750582769if you aren't a retard you'll get it by episode 5
>>750583460godbros our response?
>>75058344750 hours for the first 4 chapters is ""speedreading""' for you?? you read like a disabled grandma with glocauma or what?im sure many can read much faster than me and cleared the first 4 chapters in a shorter time
>>750581667I always see /v/ talking about this VN what's it about Some guy trying to save his family from a demon or devil they're indepted to rightand he's got to beat her in game of witsis that it or have I gotten the wrong impression?
>>750583585>50 hours for the first 4 chapters is ""speedreading""' for youyes you triple nigger, in fact, now i'm just sure you're a lying faggot and all your posts are worthless
>>750583447genuine retard alert.
>>750583602https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDIWGaDBkwgCompletely wrong. You go to Witch Prison and get bullied.
>>750583698>retard can't do mathmany such cases!
>>750583682this faggot stares at each word he reads for 2 seconds before it registers into his brain
>>750583842worthless non reader postlet me guess, beatrice is a tranny right?
>>75058377910+10+13+15 is more than 50 to you?Not only you cant even read but you cant even count??HaaaaHAHAHAHAHAHA! most embarassing post in all of /v Congrats
>>750583930>using the absolute minimal timesyup, speedreading zoomoid alert was correct it seems
>>750583764this is like a fever dream.
I'm finishing Umineko now. Some anon spoiled the culprit to me in an unrelated thread, but it turns out they gave me the wrong guy, so I'm grateful it wasn't actually spoiled for me. >>750583602You have the wrong impression, except the beating her in a game of wits part. It's basically a murder mystery where each episode presents a variation of an event where everyone on an isolated island is killed, seemingly by supernatural means. The witch character claims it was all done via magic, and the guy has to try and refute her and show how it can all be done by humans.
>>750584062is it worth reading? did you enjoy it?
It took me 170 hours to read the whole thing. 90 hours for Part 1, 80 hours for part 2.But to be completely fair, I'd read something that caught my attention, spend 45 minutes thinking about it in the context of everything that happened so far, take a trillion notes on my schizo wall of clues trying to solve the mystery and then keep reading. I also have a ton of snips of dialogue that I thought were interesting, funny, or relevant.I also talked about it with a friend who gave me ZERO clues but enjoyed reading my theories. It was a great fucking time and it's sad to see all the unreader, discord raid tier shitposting around the VN.And Natsuhi was my favorite character.>>750582769As long as you're aware you don't play and it's 100% reading, then yes. The logic is pretty twisted but the whole novel slowly reshapes your logic conventions to the point where you eventually start thinking like they want you to. It's pretty great.
Did you solvered the EPITAPH
>>750582034>>750583501She is a man, thougheverbeit
>>750584174Yeah, I enjoyed it. It's very long, each of the 8 episodes is a full length game in its own right, but I never got tired of it. The human characters are interesting, somewhat realistic and flawed, the fantasy characters are all likable, the mysteries are difficult but are technically solvable, sometimes the writing can be a bit hokey and overly drawn out but nothing too bad. If you like VNs, especially murder mystery ones like Phoenix Wright I definitely recommend it.
>>750584543Fanfiction.
draw her with a fat cellulite speckled ass of course
>>750583602So the short answer is that it's a murder mystery on an isolated island a la And Then There Were None, aka, Ten Little Niggers. Main point of conflict is a inheritance dispute. The longer answer is that the story is about a meta narrative that doesn't reveal it until the second book in which the killer, disguised as The Golden Witch Beatrice, and the last survivor, played by Battler.The meta narrative takes place in a higher plane of existence where each of them take turns treating the family members as pieces in a board game, and Battler can only win by solving the murder mysteries that Beatrice creates.Beatrice, being a supernatural element, only has to win by crafting murders so implausible that Battler concedes that witches are real.By and large, the story is a commentary how an audience and author relate to each other in a mystery novel
>>750584174Read it if you're fine forgetting about the story completely and having the story lead you by the nose. Also, note how >>750584561 says the mystery is "technically solvable". That means that it's not solvable, nor should you ever want to solve it as it would make the person writing it big mad.
Every one of these certified millennial classics that get recommended here have been great disappointments. I don't listen to the recs of fat bald anons anymore.
how come every cd/vinyl that comes out for this fucking game never comes with shit like patchwork chimera or dread of the grave
>>750584759 (You)Sorry, I meant: Read it if you're fine forgetting about the MYSTERY completely.
>>750581667>plan to kill entire family>they're retards and kill each other>kill selfprofit?
ill never come to terms with battler just abandoning ange what a dickhead
>>750584739>By and large, the story is a commentary how an audience and author relate to each other in a mystery noveli know a lot of hate this part of umineko but i genuinely think it's the best part about it and erika is one of the best villains ever written
>>750584730All I have are fat cow tits saved but I'd save that too if ever shown.
>>750581667You did all that just to get my attention? Well you got it, now take that curtain you call a dress off and show me how much of a freak you really are.
>>750581667damn that's a shame, anyway i'm gonna go fuck this cat i found outside, might have a threesome with the cake later if she's lucky
>>750584174nta but my enjoyment of Umineko was a bell curve: the beginning was a horrific slog, it got really good in the middle, and imploded in the end (and it's not just that the mystery wasn't resolved, stfu about the manga idc), it's that there were hours and hours of boring chuuni nonsense in the last chapter that I found unbearable.>>750584184it took me 80 hours to read all chapters of Umineko, which is way faster than the vndb estimates, my brain must be large, swollen perhaps, i should get that checked out
>>750584773What are some good games according to you?
>>750585081>and it's not just that the mysterythe story gave you literally everything you need to get the answer without outright saying it, the mystery is solved if you aren't retarded
>>750585081>boring chuuni nonsense in the last chapter that I found unbearable.Get your t-levels checked.
>>750584850Nothing is ever confirmed.The only part the manga makes canon are the solutions to Beatrice games.
>>750584759>That means that it's not solvableI was part of the fanbase as it developed and the leading theory turned out to be the correct theory.
>>750584773Crazy to think that Umineko was widely praised here on 4chan for the longest time. You'd even have people zealously defend the title. Now it's been reduced to a joke, and the only people you'd find recommending it is the trans community.Kinda miss arguing with Umineko defenders, where they prove that they missed the essence of the story when they'd call others goats or shit out canned responses like: "Without love it cannot be seen".
>>750585190it's funny how many anons on here vehemently proclaim that it's impossible to solve when jp readers got it really quickly
but beatriche has 0 kills to her name
>>750585190>>750585232If you're reading it from the start and theorising with the wider community, you'll likely get it. Far less likely if you're reading through it post-completion. You also really shouldn't be getting the answer after Episode 1 (post-Episode 2 is fine) because how wants or hopes that the answer to a mystery is everyone is in on it, and most of the content you're seeing is just filler to misdirect the reader? Same shit with Episode 1 of Higurashi.
>>750583602Basically the protagonist, Battler, goes to a family reunion on an island isolated by a typhoon, and there is a legend of an evil witch, Beatrice, that brings misfortune for people that don't believe in magic. Spoilers for episode 1: His family is killed one by one and after he himself is killed, Battler arrives on the Golden Land, where Beatrice reveals that she killed everyone on the island with magic. He doesn't believe her, so she challenges him to a game. As Beatrice is the Infinity Witch, she can turn back time and revive everyone so she can kill everyone again. Battler has to find a way that the murders could occur without magic.
>>750584942I like it because I think the dragon knight has a unique perspective as far as murder mystery authors go. He was one of the first examples of someone having such constant and consistent interactions with his audience that he was watching their reactions and speculation as he wrote higurashi, and that intimate experience manifested into something unlike anything before.Is he a hack? Sure. But he's a hack that cared
>Only those who show themselves worthy enough by figuring out about the Danshui railway line and my obsession with Taiwanese nuts will they be able to inherit my fortuneWtf is that guy's problem
>>750585575That or they could, you know...check the island for a pretty obvious location that contains his fortune? Nah, Krauss has more important things to be doing!
>>750581667you could have just killed me...
>>750585575I forgot, did they mention the Taiwan betel nut thing early in the story?
>>750585778Krauss already found it, that's why he had a gold bar hidden in chapter 1
>>750585941Wasn't that from the guy who took one gold bar before lending Kinzo his money?
>>750585575He wanted someone who understood him, not just people who were related to him, to inherit his wealth. Kinzo hated his family and he entirely expected his family to hate him back.
>>750585941>chapter 1You mean the story used to help Angie learn about her family? Fake news.
>>750584759>says the mystery is "technically solvable".It is solvable, hell, if you try to solve it from the start, you can already reduce the possibilities who is the culprit by just 3 people in episode 2. The finer details really are a bitch though and may require for you to go back to previous chapters.
>>750582034spbp
I grope and suck on her beato bombs until she explodes
>>750584759You can also guess the culprit right at the start of episode 1 where there's an extremely blatant bit of foreshadowing, so blatant that you might even dismiss it as being too obvious.
Does umineko count as a multiverse or are the fragments merely only headcanon what if scenarios?
>that one message bottle containg a full blown family orgy
>>750586548Beatrice you can't pull a stephen king and just blame it on cocaine.
>>750584436Its unsolvable in English.
>>750586749Actually it's easier in english than japanese
>>750581667
>>750582769>should i read umineko if i just want to read a mystery i can solve?It's pretty fun trying to solve it, but most people can't solve all of it, because some stuff may require rereading it. You don't play mini-games like in phoenix wright.
