>CD project makes a boring and shallow "rpg" where choices don't matter and every quest has only 1 solution which most people rightly hated>Anime releases >OH EM GEE THIS IS THE GREATEST GAME EVERWhat is this phenomen called? Why are normalfags like this?
retardation
Normalfags care more about presentation than writing or gameplay. It's why they praise Sony movie slop. We need a normslfag genocide
it's fun, is it so hard to grasp? the anime is shit btw, both seasons
>>750567048It's truly embarrassing, and frankly a little frustrating. Only Japanese games really deserve this. Then you have posers like Cyberpunk 2077 and Crimson Desert trying to pretend like they make good games and are the "good guys". What a load of crock.
>>750567048TLDRBut personally I really liked the stealth gameplay. Could use more takedown animations though
>>750567230It's a worse GTA pretending to be an rpg
>>750567048Thank god someone says it.
>>750567048I think people just forgot it was supposed to be an RPG. FarCry in a futuristic city is easier to swallow when you don't expect it to be deep.
games was good. the cartoon show was retarded and bad
>>750567363Horrible taste
>>750567308>worse than gta Depends on what you want out of it. Gta has much better story, immersion, and characters, but idgaf about all that because the combat doesn't let me massacre a small army of fellow cyborgs as I zoom around mid air at Mach speed cleaving people in two with a katana while slowing my perception of time or becoming too angry to die.
>>750567216^This. Normalfags are still obsessed with graphics despite them hitting a point of diminishing returns.
>>750567216you can't genocide normalfags, that's why they are NORMAL.
>>750567048>every quest has only 1 solutionthat's not true thoughthe game presents you with one clearly marked solution for every questa lot of quests have different ones, you just need to find them on your own you're just admitting you didn't even try
>>750567048>boring and shallow "rpg" where choices don't matter and every quest has only 1 solutionIts not as simple as that but it is skyrim tier RPG, though it has more choices than skyrim.the one great thing about CP2077 is that is has a massive build variety so it is good for replaying.
>>750567048If Peter Molyneux made games now he'd be worshipped and all his broken, empty promise games would be hailed as "No man sky moments"The bar has reached the floor
your cybertruck xir >>750567048
>>750567048Alot of quests can end differently though
>>750567048>Call a cartoon written and produced by europeans an 'anime'>Low IQ retards who purchased a worse Driv3r think its anime
>>750567048You lost, shazamtranny.
>>750567815If he managed to mindbreak you so hard, he won.
>>750567048>CDPR REDEEMED THE GAME IT'S JUST LIKE NO MAN'S SKY!!!!!>all they did was some bug fixes, finished a few small sidequests, added a few sidequests for marketing purposes and added graphic technology to shill Nvidia>released one small expansion when they promised multiple thus breaking yet another promiseHOW was this a "redemption arc"?
>>750567308There hasn't been a good GTA game since 2008. Let it go little bro.
>>750567815Is the dlc any good?
>>750567815We won so hard. And now we get a second game and the devs are making more money. bonus.
>>750567963Yeah, better than the base game.
>>750567695>Peter MolyneuxWhy does he catch more flak for this than Todd Howard, who had the same habit?
>>750567048>What is this phenomen called?goycattle
>>750567978Wow, congrats. A woke tranny-loving company will make more goyslop.
Normalfags have no tasteWhatever is popular they will buy for social brownie points
>>750567928It's simply a shilling campaign
>>750567963In regards to map/gig design and story I'd say it's a signifigant improvement over most of the base game along with giving a few iconics that are actually unique feeling Prototypes instead of just the default guns with a modifier.I'd say the big thing the game still lacks is more distinct enemy variety between gangs and corps, AI that's better for stealth and a more developed parkour system that let's players take much more advantage of the verticality of some areas,
>>750567963>Introduces level scalingNo, it's shit with slightly better writing (the only thing normalniggers care about).
>>750568039I havent played the base game since 2021. Apparently clothes are just cosmetic now or theyve changed everything a lot
>>750567048It's not even an RPG
>>750567048It stopped being an rpg before launch, they removed the tag.It's a good experience if you think of it as as an action game with some choices and put the fact that it should be an rpg out of your mind.
>>750567230I tried playing this but the colour gamut made me nauseated after a bit.
>>750568224>It's a good experienceNo it isn't
>>750568291It is, sorry.
Still haven't even pirated itThey lost all the grace they had before the game was out
>>750567048The game is just too long. I maxed my dude out and from what I was told im not even half way through the main story. None of the characters are likable and I dont feel really attached to any of them. Jackie died so fast I didnt really get what the fuss was at all.
>>750567048why don't people realize that they're literally condoning game companies selling an unfinished game filled with bugs and "fixing it" years later?
>>750568185Id agree with this edit even though i didnt hate the game
>>750568154just cosmetic with some tiny exceptions. there's transmog anyway
>>750568323>It is
>>750568410I'd prefer a game with a rough launch becoming good than a game just sucking forever.
>>750567048normalfags are always pulled by the current wave, whatever gains the most traction will shape their minds, that's why you get people that criticize REmake 3 but not REmake 2 or REmake 4 despite having the same problems
>>750568985Cyberpunk never became "good", you only got groomed into thinking that through a highly agressive marketing campaign.I prefer games that launch in a good state and are good games, not crap games that people do a 180 on because a paid eceleb started talking about LE ENGOODENING.
Unbelievable that it's 2026 and /v/ is still entertained like an autistic child by choice and consequence slop>alright bro. you have two ways to clear this mission. sneak in and get the case or kill everyone>alright i kill everyone>whoa bro... this will have CONSEQUENCES... (ending slideshow changes)Whoa.. This is what gaming is all about...
>>750567048Whenever /v/ contrarian faggots lose THIS hard, I have an orgasm.
way too much dialogue
>>750567048>"rpg" where choices don't matter and every quest has only 1 solutionThat doesn't make it a bad RPG nor does it not make it an RPG. Not every RPG has to be fucking New Vegas
>>750567241Crimson Desert did nothing wrong
>>750567048English reviews on steam are among the worst. French reviews are the most accurate.
>>750567757Not really. They gave up on making your choices matter after the first Act.
>>750567595>though it has more choices than skyrim.Low bar. Half of Skyrim's quests don't even present you with the illusion of choice
chooms = wonnedshazamtrannies = losted
I remember playing it 2 years after release and a load of skills and talents were still bugged. Even encountered a game-breaking bug in a main mission. It was like it was still in early access.
>>750568185>3. --- mechanics ------
>>750567048It's crazy how broken this game released, and nobody talks about it anymore
>>750569142>prefer games that launch in a good state and are good games,Holy newfag
>>750569731Why would we?
>>750567815>don't play the goy slop>all the goys play the goys slop>still win because I didn't play the goy slopWooooow
>>750569731Still is, just painted over with glossy paint.
>>750569787Because that was the appeal of Cyberpunk
>>750569578That is what I meant. Skyrim literally has like 3-5 actual choices in the entire game and 2 of them are your character creation choices. its all shallow RPG but you are making a build and going through it for the adventure.Pretty much the same with CP2077 but there are more choices than skyrim.
>>750567571>erm, it acskhually isn't ALL quests, just the vast majority of them>check and mate, loser
>>750567216Gamers in general don't like gameplay anymore. They complain about tank controls, timers, and movement instead of learning mechanics
>>750567048>where choices don't matter and every quest has only 1 solutionevery gig in DLC has multiple solutions, a lot of quests and gigs in base game had multiple solutions, only main story is extremely railroady
I will never understand why /v/ shits on fo4 for being a themepark shooter and praise cyberpunk for being the same.
This game will always be considered a massive embarrassment and a learning point for all other devs how to not release your fucking game in a completely broken state. They also gave up half of their roadmap and now don't even use their own engine. Anybody who has faith in this dev going forward is a certified cuck.
>>750567048people like things just because they're popular
>>750570453Because Cyberpunk is fun and Fo4 isn't
>>750570492Of course I don't have faith in them but I'm still going to buy their game if it looks fun
>>750567048Lol, lmao. The cope is real.
>>750570453Bethesda bad CDPReddit good basically.
>>750567048Marketing? But who cares? Sales numbers aren't a gameplay feature. Just having a animu doesn't change that I quit playing it a 2nd time for the dlc. 6.5/10 cool for 20 bucks. Journo and mainstream opinion are worthless.
>>750567048his phenomenon is called /v/ losing again
>>750567048>a boring and shallow "rpg" where choices don't matter and every quest has only 1 solution>play closed ended RPG>complain it doesnt play like an open ended RPGand as usual, OP is a faggotwhat's next, complaining an arcade racer doesnt play like a racing sim?or maybe that a golf game doesnt play like FIFA?or that COD doesnt play like DOOM?either way, the phenomenon is called bandwagoning, and it has nothing to do with the quality of a game, good games are affected, bad games are affected, as long as a game has an external source of temporary mainstream popularity, normies jump on it and praise it as the second coming of christ, been happening since the 90s for games, will keep happening, nothing new
>>750567048The people who liked CDPR shit are those hipsters who reject Todd's game out of sheer hipsterism. CDPR games are all mediocre at best, if it weren't for booba and sex, their game wont even sell much other than being a eurojank like all the other eurojank before them. Also Todd's game characters are dog shit ugly anyway.
>play the new tour quest>literal autistic schreeching for half an hour>did you know night city corps and government are actually morally questionable?This does not fill me with any confidence for w4 or CB2
>>750569820>obsessively attack the goys who liked the slopyou lost. sheep do two things, follow the herd or move away from something. youre still a sheep and still controlled LOL
>>750567048Simple, the people that brought it because of the anime are predisposed to giving it a positive rating because they enjoyed other media of that IP so much they brought a game. It's why anything Lord of the Rings gets popular for a moment despite games being consistently bad, why Hogwarts Legacy was such a boogeyman. IP is king.Using other mediums to boost sales and reviews of other mediums is a pretty surface level tactic.
>>750568185None of this was a lie btw. It's all couched in vague and relative terms. Even "RPG" is such an ill-defined genre there are many "RPGs" less worthy of the name. You people need to learn how marketing hype works.
>>750567048Define rpg faggot
>>750567048>before anime>6/10 pseudo RPG with GTA elements, Watch Dogs but slightly better meh>after anime>waoow le sandevistan cyberpsychosis choomWhy do you think marketing is such a big field? The average retard is highly suggestible.
>>750568152What the fuck are you talking about the game has always had level scaling
>>750567048It's better than almost every AAA game released in the past 10 years
>>750571139What if I pirated the game after the DLC and anime came out when I got a new gpu, liked the game and only watched the anime later when everyone said how good it is, but I found it to be shit?
>>750567048this thing about the anime is a forced meme. everyone jerks off shallow CDPR games even before the updates and anime.
>>750571216You have complete fucking shit taste and standards if you think this. Every open world aspect of this game is completely overshadowed by a handful of other developers and games in the last decade
>>750571326Give 10 examples
My biggest complain would be how the gameplay briefly peaks around the midpoint when you finally unlock interesting abilities but then a few levels later it goes to shit cuz you become immortal.
>>750571326>DOOD theres like....SOOO many other better games....like....um....like HEAPS of them!!
>>750571216HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
It's more that ESG bullshit allow for devs to make a completely terrible game and continue to fund it to take half a decade to make it into something decent, instead of cratering the reputation of the studio and all staff.Look at no man's sky. That should have been the end of their careers, but here they are, 10 years later, still putting out updates cause they got SO much sjw money funneled into their pockets.
>>750571326Like who?
>>750571446And I got a good space exploration game out of it. So what's the issue?
>>750571446What the fuck does ESG have to do with anythingDo you have a single fact to back that up?
>le normalfag sycophant sheeps amirite fellow /v/roonscringe inducing thread
>>750570453cyberpunk has: better combat, better skills, better quests, better story, voice acting, writing, better animation and graphics. One thing FO4 has over Cyberpunk is better ability to mod it, but why would I want to polish a turd?
>>750571642You played slop and suck its cock, kill yourself you cattle.
>>750569731Nobody wants to deal with the weebs who will defend this game to the death thanks to Rebecca
>>750571326>mission failed: You saddled the wrong horse
Makes me laugh seeing some clips of le epic gameplay and it's most basic boring shit ever
>>750571835>mission failed: you cited a non open world aspect
>>750571773>RebeccaLucy*
>>750567048>fix a broken game that shouldn't have been broken in the first place>le CDPR are the goats, look how much they care for le consumer>totally forget the fact that the game is missing like a dozen or more features they promised before release anywayNormies are like cattle, they don't need much to be satisfied. Just play good PR and you're good.
>>750571835Do you have zero self-awareness? CDPR literally pulls Rockstars pants down and sucks their cock on a daily basis. Leading up to 2077's release they were tonguing their asshole saying they were the best dev on the planet and they desperately wanted to be them.
>>750571956>the game is missing like a dozen or more features they promised before release anywaysuch as?
It makes me so angry that cyberpunk even as a GENRE gets positive attention. "punk" in itself should already show it celebrates what ruins a good sane society and transhumanism is both violently troon coded and goes against the natural order by letting people enhance their biological inferiority away.But hey make sure to clap when the sequel basedmaxxes even harder and brings some of the canonical biotech innovations in the universe to go with all the cybernetics! Hope you like furfags and the wet dreams of troons worldwide.
>>750568052Peter Molyneux is more pretentious and not as charming.
>>750571982Complex police and general NPC AI routines, gang wars and strongholds in the city, complex weather system, distinct branching life paths for your character, etc etc. Remember this trailer?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjF9GgrY9c0
>>750567048It was the dlc and numerous updates that salvaged the games reputation but you just wanted to cry about anime or something
>>750567048People loved it before the anime.
does /v/ ever get tired of being miserable
>>750572223None of the updates or DLC added choices or rpg elements, it was just more of the same garbage. They never delievered the game they promised.
>>750572092Complaining about trannies in Cyberpunk is retarded.Cyberpunk is a capitalism gone wrong. Know what else is capitalism gone wrong? Convincing a healthy person they need lifelong medication, expensive surgeries and lessons to larp as the opposite sex. Transgenderism is capitalism gone so wrong even the medical industries are captured by profit.And the cherry on top? It has a flag you can put on pins, clothes, different sizes flags, badges and anything you can think of. Perfect for milking money from.You can't portray capitalism gone wrong without trannies, trannies are fundamentally, capitalism gone wrong.
>>750572340Okay but it's still a good game. You don't have to live in 2014 or whenever that announce trailer came out forever.
Redditors are desperate to not look at this game as being a shit show disappointment it was. Now you have weebs too acting like it's good because lel anime.
>>750572340okay, what do you mean by "choices"? Because DLC gives you a lot of choices in missions it adds
>>750572194>Remember this trailer?no, i asked exactly cause by the time i got interested in the game, it had already been fixed, so i never followed anything about until then and never even knew what features the game was supposed to have before release
>>750572238Do you get tired of peddling garbage as good because you didn't develop a prefrontal cortex to form actual taste
>>750572438No, because I'm having fun playing video games. Stay mad, loser
>>750571734try using more /v/ approved meme words next time, you're very unique, smart and special
>>750567230Shit tastes, it's the other way around.
Are you Cybercucks eagerly awaiting the next forced sequel that replaces an established male lead with a "girl boss" dyke, all rendered in Unreal Engine?
>>750572838Actually what I’m eagerly awaiting is for Shazamtrannies like you to cry for the next 5 years straight over completely asinine bullshit
>>750572838I expect them to make a story that assumes player is a male with male desires and built every story, gig, interaction on it, then for troons to scream how female voice is better(how they screamed about femShepard and femV, wrong both accords)
>>750572238it is kinda sad to come here these days t b h. all anyone wants to do is circlejerk over how bad everything is
>>750567308I enjoyed CP way more than GTA games. Who tf wants to play as some nigger or white trash in USA when you can play as a cybernetic mercenary punk in a over the top cyberpunk city. Cyberpunk world is orders of magnitude more interesting than literally just USA with forced humor.
>>750573343We had several good threads forbthe past few days genuinely discussing the games mechanics, what gameplay styles are fun, how things could be improved, what we'd like to see in a sequel, etc. This is just the designated Tortanic shazamfaggot thread so half the posts are bot tier denigrating of the game with zero actual specifics or references to industry standards for an ARPG.
>>750573451CDPR is a poor man's Rockstar. Always has been, always will be.
>>750572838>established male leadYou can choose your gender in CP2077 tho.
>>750573451also GTA combat gets boring after first 30 minutes
>>750573504Yea, so? GTA is still way tamer and more boring than CP.
>>750573509He's talking about their next woke slop game, TW4 retard.
>>750573504This is definitely true now that they don't even have their own proprietary engine for their games.
>>750567898Hes seething everyday on here about this game he's clearly the mind broken one
>>750567048The porn mods came out and it became the new Barbie dress up walking sim that Skyrim was
>>750573589Well, he mentioned cyberpunk.I never cared for Witcher. I am tired of swords and sorcery RPGs. It's one of the reasons why I completed CP while dropping Skyrim and similar ~20h in.
Its a great open world action game. The problem was selling it as an RPG to begin with. The Phantom Liberty update cutting a lot of the bloat was a good change
>>750567048>CP2077>boringDo you faggots actually play games?
>>750567048i like the story and the lore , the game is a solid 7.5/10 . 3/10 in terms of RPG.
>>750569731i m afraid it s been 6 years
>>750567048I'm no cyberpunk fanboy, but you're doing a huge disservice to the amount of stuff they changed since release.Off the top of my head>Redid perks, which went from absolute fetid dogshit to serviceable (this alone was a gamechanger)>Redid wanted system to no longer be egregiously sloppy>Added the use of weapons in cars>Changed in entirety how armour works, making it purely cosmetic>Changed healing/grenade mechanics, and rebalanced the entire difficulty curve so that the game isn't mind-numbingly easy, as well as buffed the final boss (several times) so that it's no longer a pushoverAnd I'm not even counting the numerous bugs. As someone who both played on release, and much later, I can tell you the game still has faults, but it made a noticeable difference in quality. This revisionism you keep doing where you pretend they sat on their ass for 5 years and the game was saved by an anime is annoying. It was kinda sorta like that between edgerunners and the 2.0 update for a few months at best.
>>7505670481.0 players have not been properly rewarded for the buggy messes.
I feel bad for OP
>>750567048OH MY FUCKING GOD a second person with this factual opinion finally. It's just that people never actually played it, it's a tech demo.>>750567230*crash*
>>750574631>*crash*played for 70 hours recently, had zero crashes
>>750574747>It never had bugs!!You're not winning this one just by replying, buddy.
>>750567048I don't get it either. Game was ass when it released and it remains ass to this day.
>>750574780specs?I'm on a 1660 Super and I've never had a crash. Though I had bugs in the opening intro longer than most others seemingly did
>>750567048I'd call it very positive after my time with it.Has the bones to be OP but needs some immersive work and better branching paths
>>750574357There are games out there that did more changes than Cyberpunk within 5 years.
>>750574780I didn't say it never had bugs, but if you're implying 1.0 and 2.5 are the same in terms of stability then you're a moron
>>750574852>1660 SuperHow well does it run since they bumped the requirements with that patch from a few years ago?
>>750571971And then they made a game better than anything rockstars has released since RDR1
>>750574357Yeah people really undersell just how awful the attribute and perk system along with weapon progression was pre 2.0. The game felt like it was actively trying to stop you from having fun in regards to how you built your character.I love how the revised system actually makes each attribute feel like a distinct class that heavily rewards playing a specific way, though the swap to scaling in skill checks can be frustrating if you try to spread out your character too much and while Tech doesn't feel like as much of a fun tax attribute as it did pre 2.0, it still feels pretty overtuned since Cyberware is so strong now.
>>750571326Name examples.
>>750575096I play on minimum settings and things are mostly smooth. Even heavy combat doesn't see any major issues but once in a blue moon I'll just be walking down the street doing nothing and the game will act like it's about to implode for a few seconds before going back to normal.
>love season one>Season two feels like an undercooked piece of shitIs there something wrong with me
>>750574948Yeah and there's way more games that changed significantly less in 5 years than cyberpunk did.
>>750574401>attacked by a controller
>>750574948Sure, but that's another argument
>>750567048it was always great, people only shat on it at release because of technical issues. once those were fixed, the game redeemed itself and more.nobody cares about RPG elements or choices or the 2013 teaser beyond a tiny minority. it works much better as an action game anyway.
>>750567710Way to ruin an otherwise good experience
>>750575267Nah season 2 had too many protagonists. It still had some good moments and visuals but the story didn't give anyone enough time to develop their relationships and goals.
4 years and no flying cars
>>750575173This pathetic if you actually believe this.
Only asians and weaboos watched the animu. It doesn't matter and shouldn't be discussed on v.
I feel like they sort of goofed by making the different fixers regional instead of making it task related. Like one would be the go too for thievery missions, the other for bodyguard work and shakedown, one for assassinations or assaults, etc.
>>750575867That or your Fixers should have been a single guy or 2-3 big wigs who monopolize your work and manage your street cred.
>>750572453Stealth is really good especially with the environmental distractions and non-combat quickhacks (blindness, etc.) that you can use in creative ways.
>>750567048>What is this phenomen called? Why are normalfags like this?Being desperate to turn all the years wasted hyping that shit into a redemption arc. Also they are profoundly stupid and gullible
>>750571326I didn't expect to find a cult around this game. I haven't even heard a thing about this game's plot.
>every fixer sells top tier military sandevistans if your streetcred is high enoughtop tier equipment should be found reward for gigs, not bought from any shop
Why EXACTLY do anons hate 2077? I agree that the anime is bad (especially s2) but the writing and worldbuilding of the game is genuinely good and the gameplay is pretty good too. Am I too much of a zoomer faggot to have known what makes an rpg truly good/truly an rpg? I thought all rpgs generally had telltale-like storytelling where your "choices" were pretty much just different dialog options and certain endings for quests. I grew up on Skyrim, that's the most "rpg" rpg 99% of zoomers know.
>>750576268>fixerripperdoc*
>>750570926a real comment from a friend of mine >Bro the bar was so low for me>They put more animated shit in NC im watching>Then they put sauske and sum cute construct on a chip and >have him slot it>Oh man I was drooling>I LOVE NIGHT CITY!!!!!!!>Top 1 setting in gamingt. zoomer with zoomer friends
>/v/eddit is enraged and confused that "modern game BAD because I'm an ebin free thinker (blind contrarian)" is not an opinion held by anyone outside of /v/eddit
>>750569731>only "broken" on ps4 which was too weak to handle it
>>750575694Sorry but it's the truth
>>750567048The game is good, seethe
>>750575694latest info about gta 6>Jason can pick up dogshit and hit people with it>they developed smell system so your character will react to dogshit >There are houses smeared in dogshit I don't think hiring 1000 Indians improved GTA 6 in any way
>>750567230It was already fun when it was released, nothing great, nothing shit, the problem is that the collective normie hivemind pretends this was the worst game ever and is now the best game ever, even though they just fixed some bugs and added irrelevant new features.
>>750576278Cyberpoop is the only game on this scale I've seen with basic issues like buildings clipping inside other buildings, or failing to even load, for one thing, and these were issues only RECENTLY solved.
>release the most broken video game in history, forcing Sony and Microsoft to pull it from digital stores and issue refunds. They also had to publicly admit that they lied about the game's performance and content>Overwhelmingly Positive
>>750578316It was bad and it got better over time.It's literally the same story as with Skyrim. Everyone was shitting on it how buggy it was on first release. But it improved and it's a fine game now.
The anime brought new people that didn't felt the disapointment for the promises unkeptI liked the anime, but I will never see this game as anything more than>they promised me Witcher 3 in the neon city>but they gave me Far Cry in the neon city
>>750567963It's an alternative main questline, the new area looks like shit and feels unnatural, you instantly notice that it was placed after the main game was done. Many of the new quests feel like CoD missions and the ending is trash.
>>750578553>Everyone was shitting on it how buggy it was on first releaseNever happened, Skyrim was always beloved by normalfags
People who take screenshots of social media posts without including the date, and people who repost such screenshots, should be banned from the internet.
>>750578617Dogtown was always on the map though.
>>750578776Agreed
>>750578403>oh noooo super distant lod models and some random buildings don't look amazing and you can find c-c-c-c-c-CLIPPING ISSUES if you look in places you aren't meant to go
>>750578617>and feels unnaturalit's combat zone run without central government
>>750579090>super distant lod models and some random buildings don't look amazingThe whole game looks like that though. Morons like you are amazed by the one or two areas of the game which weren't rushed out in five minutes, but have no interactability.
>>750578617>Many of the new quests feel like CoD missionsmost new quests(gigs) have multiple different ways to finish them, some don't have any combat at all. While yes, mainline quests are more like a CoD missions>and the ending is trashif you're talking about Tower you absolutely deserve it for being piece of shit
>>750567048the story was the only halfway decent thing about the game before the phantom liberty update reworked the skill trees and equipment system, then they dropped the update that made everything else better with the anime and a very good DLC.
So what builds good now? I've not played since a bit after launch and just got the dlc.
>>750579903My first run was after the DLC came out, I ran a cool/reflexes/tech build. slammed as much chrome as I could on me, stacked as much slowmo as possible and then I dumped all my perks into assault rifles, pistols/snipers, and blades. my endgame arsenal was the silenced sniper, johnny's pistol, an assault fire that sets people on fire and mantis blades. either I was killing everything from a mile away, or I was turning on bullet time and obliterating everything close to me. Now that dual wielding is in I'm doing a kind of similar build, but swapping reflexes out for body so I'll be running>Dual wielded pistols>A shotgun>A knife>Gorilla armsgonna try to stack mitigation and just be a wall that walks people down, with the throwing knife as my quiet option.
>>750579903luv me Malorian paired with revolver>massive headshot damage>desynced ammo count means I get free time slowdown while one gun reloads and I shoot with anotheralthough it's almost impossible to shoot straight with one pistol while aiming down, have to hipfire
>>750567048it's somewhat hilarious that some people want this game to be successful so badly that they all overlook the fact a literal pedo bait anime character is the sole reason behind the game ever being considered good. nobody ever mentions any of the story beats. nobody ever mentions what class they enjoyed most. nobody ever mentions what they thought about the difference factions. nobody ever talks about about any side quests except the tranny racer. every single cp2077 discussion is 99% people talking about rebecca.
>>750580459>nobody ever mentions what class they enjoyed the most>the 3 posts above him is one guy asking about builds and 2 sharing the ones they enjoyed the mostlol
>>750580459>nobody ever mentions any of the story beatsI'm going to say it, people who, on their FIRST PLAYTHROUGH, believed a single word Reed said when giving you ICEbreaker are retards and if they chose to use ICEbreaker during Firestarter are doubly retarded
>>750567230>DOOOOD ITS SOOOO FUN>*activates sandevistan, one-shot click everyones head with a revolver*yeah... sure...
>>750580938This but with a katana and a mod saying"omae wa mo shindeiru" when deactivating it.
The worst aspect of the game imo are the terrible car physics and the overall un-cyberpunkness of the world. The cars basically move on rails as far as I could tell and in a game where driving is a sizeable chunk of the gameplay that's an actual crime. As for the other part it might be personal taste but it felt like a normal city with clownish NPC's and not a scifi dystopian metropolis.
>>750567048I had an AI roleplay chat in Cyberpunk 2077 with claude that was a million times better than actually playing this shit. I mean damn. I just don't care about these mid games anymore
Why do faggot OPs always have to start with lies?
>>750567515My favorite game is Factorio and i like that Cyberpunk looks exceptional (probably the best looking game right now), while also performing great - all max except path tracing, 3440x1440, gets 90-100 fps, solid 240 fps with DLSS, on a 5070 ti.I like it when devs are competent, at least technically - unlike these console port subhuman monkeys.
the game is fun though
>>750578764That's factually incorrect. Skyrim had as many bug and glitches compilations when it came out as CP.
>>750567978>and now we get even more stripped down unfinished slop running on UE5great...
>>750576110I like the dichotomy between Int Stealth and Cool Stealth. One is very slow and you have a lot of control to avoid detection and the other is super fast and lethal where you're just bumrushing and spamming slow down effects and hesdshots to take out anyone or anything that detects you. My only gripe about Cool is that Cp 2077 uses crouch = sneaky but thats mostly aesthetic
As an RPG it sucks so much ass but I specifically like the world, the atmosphere and just keep coming back.
>>750567048I don't know about one of the best games ever made but it's way better than Witcher 3 and people say that about that game too.
>>750582507it's just not an rpg and i'm pretty sure the devs have stopped stating it as such. it's an action adventure game with light rpg elements. which it does really well.
>>750582604Define rpg
>>750571710>cyberpunk has: better combat, better skills, better quests, better story, voice acting, writing, better animation and graphicsFunny thing is you're right but none of them in either game are good enough to warrant mention.
>>750579604It's cute that you think you're talking to someone who hasn't played the game. Sadly for you, I have, so your attempt at lying has failed. Faggot.
>>750582507As an RPG it's narratively bad as far as choice goes but as far as gameplay goes I think the attribute system does a good job of highlughting and rewarding different gameplay styles. The only issue is that the game's enemies and systems don't really provide any meaningful barriers past a certain point that can really provide any challenge to a well built character.Like a Netrunner being present should massively complicate things in regards to stealth and more advanced enemies should be able to detect when one of their guys suddenly goes dark and go investigate.
>>750567048>choices don't matter and every quest has only 1 solution.People say they want open ended rpgs but in the end people prefer the focus of linear stories.Has there ever been a single renowned work of classic literature that was a choose-your-own-adventure?
>>750567048If you spent all time you wasted reposting this thread day after day on anything else, you might actually achieve something of value
>>750583043Disco Elysium but it's not an RPG as it features no combat system and that's a genre defining feature.
>>750579604>The whole game looks like that thoughYou are being dishonest. This ship is far away behind waterfront which is a mostly inaccessible area anyway. It's just a spec on the horizon during the actual gameplay.
>>750583043>People say they want open ended rpgsNo, RPG codex and no mutants allowed say they want open ended rpgs.A) Both are geeks and so not people.B) It 1000 tops, and 80% only replay old gamesAs for normal People, they want fan games.
>>750583043Books suck for CYOA tho. Computers solved it and that's why this is the standard format for visual novels.
>>750583515Now try this again but in english
>>750567048Has anyone watched the new season of Edgerunners... i got 2 episodes in and didnt continue the next night and forget about it... I just can't care about shows that focus on children as the main characters , they are either designed for pedoes or children... sometimes both, the common perpetual-man-child-pedo..can someone who finished the show tell me if its worth it and not pedo bait ?
>>750583734>I just can't care about shows that focus on children as the main characters , they are either designed for pedoes or children...This is your brain on USA.
>>750583928you didn't answer the question and at the same time you did...lolicons get the woodchipper too. feet first .
>>750569129>not mentioning RE1makeyou're the same cattle as the rest of them
>>750567048You lost, tranny.
>>750583734Shotacon shit is just super boring and designed for 35-year-old lonely Japanese office ladies. I've yet to see a single worthwhile shota in any anime or video game that wouldn't just be improved by making the character a teenager or adult instead.
It's fun because no one has the correct answer for this.
>>750570345Tank Controls are dogshit and always have been. Timers are annoying and always have been. Shitty movement ruins an entire game.Fuck your autistic "learning mechanics" argument. I'm not learning mechanics that are inherently shit so I can feign superiority on the internet. I want better games and you can go fuck yourself.
>>750572150 >>750567695Don't talk shit about Peter
>>750584706If they made a movie, then sideing with reed here and then mercykilling songbird would be the best choice
>>750567048Alright, name me a single rpg that actually has choices that influence different endings? No crpgs
>>750584834dishonored
>>750572436Too bad he was 100% wrong.
>>750567481>Gta has much better story, immersion, and characters
>>750571389Being an immortal killing machine that mulches your enemies is fun and anyone who says otherwise is a masochistic mentally ill retard.Still not buying Cyberpunk though
>>750571389idk why they haven't done a full overhaul on enemy ai yet
>>750584902Yeah, those endings suck. You have to play a certain way to get the different endings and one is objectively the good ending making the other pointless
>>750571446No Man's Sky is sadly a broken mess that regualrly introduces bugs that never get fixed. It's reputation has not fully recovered no matter how many redditors act like every update is the second coming of Christ.Their 10th anniversary update corrupted thousands of people's Wonders list. Effectively wiping it's ass with loyal players that were invested in their decade of discoveries.Personally I'm done with the game until it concludes development because of this regular destruction they unleash upon the game.
>>750584936>t. guy who's only played 5
>>750567048Actually, people who liked the anime didn't like the game that much for what it is. People who liked the game just liked the game.
>>750584834Dynasty Warriors 8 has branching storylines based on your ability to keep historical figures alive.If you keep everyone alive and play well enough you get entire alternate history paths where Guan Yu didn't die in Jing Province after watching his son get overwhelmed by Wei's flood strategy.
>>750574357>made perks mediocre instead of awful>wanted system is still shit, it just tries a little harder when spawning cops. Even still zero actual reason to commit crimes anyways>added something that should have been in at launch>removed shitty system>game is still mind numbingly easy. Smasher still folds to two volleys of EMP grenades (because the game crashes if he gets hit by too many at once)Truly this is the game of the decade
Will you play as him?
>>750573708And you're playing defense for CDPR for free like a retarded shill
>>750567048It's an open-world action game, statsfagging doesn't make a game an RPG.
>>750585746Define rpg
>>750567308>worse GTAwhat a ridiculous statement
>>750567048>which most people rightly hatedIt wasn't hated at lsunch for those reasons by the vast majority of normalfags.Like others have stated, normalfags only care about presentation, and having a buggy mess of a release kills your presentation.The anime coinsighted with them fixing the basic performance issues with the game and launching a massive shill campaign. So now it was the correct group think opinion to like the game.
>>750571216now i am starting to believe this board is truly mostly brown
>>750567048>when a shitty anime cares more about the setting than the developers of the gamestrange isn't it?
>>750576219cause no one plays the game for story, its AGP simulator of this board.
>>750585082Espescially for stealth when you're not invested into Body or similar stuff. You shouldn't be able to do takedowns on some dude whose borged out to fuck and can bench press a bus.
>>750567048>What is this phenomen called? Why are normalfags like this?It's called CDP Red has more luck than brains..
>>750585616Reflex is too fun between the run and gun smg/ar and Sande katanas/mantis blades, though the Burya is a fun gun to focus on.
>>750572838yes i doand i expect you in the cuck chair watching us having fun without you
>>750585989That are the "white" AAA games of the past 10 years?
>>750567048>after 14 years in development and 6 years after release, this single player game is now decentI do not care. I played it on release and it was unremarkable.
>>750584706Narratively I like mercy killing Songbird after she goes rogue but helping So Mi the whole way through is 2nd place but from a gameplay perspective the Space Port is way more fun than the maxtac fight and the Blacksite. The Quantum Tuner is such a good piece of hardware that I almost always just help Somi instead.
>>750586595saar..
>>750585616>20 in every statNot even Weak was that delusional.
>>750587472He only has it in 3 though
>>750587307Well? Got an answer? People have been asking for examples of better AAA games from the past decade since the initial post was made 5 hours ago and not a single one of you fags can provide one, let alone several.
>>750582425Crouch=stealth is unfortunately common in games
>>750567048Why do people call it anime if it wasn't made in Japan?
>>750587750Deus Ex MD and HR rape CP77
>>750567048i couldn't care less about tranime, played the game when it came out day 1 without any patches because i played on bought steam account shared with other people so i played offline without patches and other than some glitches and bugs here and there finished it in 80h and had great time, like 7/10 gameafter they released DLC and fixed so much stuff and added new in that big patch it became a solid 8/10 close to a 9 if it wasn't for shit driving and lack of activities to immerse yourself in the game more
As far as I am concerned, until they deliver at least >comprehensive mod tools to allow for Bethesda-game level modding and/or >The expansion we were supposed to get, taking place after the mainline story and taking us to the space station/moon or other locations mentioned.>New content of all kinds for Phantom Liberty including romances and ending branches (fixing the Panam Tower ending should be the easiest fucking thing to do but no, they even shit that up)>new baseline ending content and branches, romances and more >New life path content early and late. >Edgerunners meaningful contentI admit that what we have now is better than what it was at launch, but that doesn't make it enough when so many things were cut , especially mods.
>>750585985>coinsightedThe word you're looking for is "coincided"Pick up a fucking dictionary if you're going to keep being a public nuisance
>>750587854the cyberpunk anime is literally made by studio trigger, a japanese studio
>>750587923Both older than 10 years, although I'll grant you that MD only by a few months.
>>750588052Also the VAs and animation sync are Japanese first , if its anything like the first season. Haven't seen second yet. maybe I'll watch tonight.
>>750584706Narratively, betraying Songbird feels more consistent. You get a lot more time with Reed than you do Songbird before this choice comes up, and it feels like it's in V's character to want to trust someone like Reed in the hope that he won't act like as much of lapdog as he ends up being. You also get too few positive interactions with Songbird to push you to the other side; However, I do like that Reed murders the twins minutes before this choice, as that goes a long way to making you second guess your decision to trust him if you'd been leaning that way up until that point, but to me it isn't enough to make it a tough choice
>>750584706Go with Song>Misty has most positive description of King of Wands >most hopeful ending>at that specific point in the game Reed lied to you about VDB(As Johnny put it he'd never leave him alive) and netrunners, so there's absolutely no reason to believe his tale that he will just talk with Songbird>mano-a-mano kino at space shuttlefeel like both mecry killing songbird or sending her to the moon would work narratively
>>750587472It’s only 3 stats, which is possible in game.
>>750584834Deus Ex
>>750587998cool it with the anti-semitismpoor corporation can't afford more content chuddy
>>750573504If you want to play an open world series, GTA is the LAST franchise that you would play. Many other series actually take advantage of their open worlds with their mechanics.
The success of an rpg hinges mostly on how much the player enjoys the world it takes place in. The player is willing to tolerate a lot of low quality/depth mechanics if ultimately they love the world. The anime made people like cyberpunk as a world more, so they liked the game more.
>>750588351Nah, game gives you a lot of reason why not to trust Reed. After you fry Wilke Songbird shows more concern over accidentally killing someone than Reed and we, as V, know that Wilke was forced under threat of death to connect to her Then he talks how we're going to "neutralize" twins only to execute them on spot, his tale INSTANTLY changes that he had no choice but to kill them, this completely recontextualizes his talk about "capturing songbird to ask a few questions" that happened right before that.Song not trusting him and wanting to escape with (you) from FIA make overall Reed to look untrustworthy
>>750567308GTA has better voice acting and ... ummmm
>>750588937Songbird also constantly lies to you
>>750588967gameplay, world building, story and exploration.
>>750589053>GTA>better gameplayyou cannot be serious
>>750589053>gameplay GTA???????? LMAOOOOOOOO
>>750588840>if ultimately they love the worldYeah right where were this take when Skyrim and Oblivion was around
>>750567048I hated it because the gameplay is ass
>>750589053>gameplayDriving is better. That's it.>world buildingIt's just usa with le sarcastic mirror>storyCookie-cutter tier>explorationWhat's there to explore?
>>750567048>game comes out>it’s a buggy mess>make shitty anime 3 years later with update>normalfags eat it upYeah that’s how it works.
>>750589053the story is the only one Ill give you and thats if were talking about GTA 4
>>750567048I played this for a bit but it was kinda boringIs it one of those things where you just have to wait until more options unlock for it to get fun?Begrudgingly I did kinda like the Keanu chungus in terms of him being some schizo in your head
>>750568185Cut out mature as well.
>>750567230In order to save gaming, normalfags need to be bullied. It is the only way.
>>750588357It's kind of a shame the showdown with Reed is just a Quickdraw. I would have liked a proper fighter
>>750589170What?
>>750589014>constantlyshe lied about air force one and being "captured" by Hansen but she's not being malicious in her lies and helped when she could, you also get explanation why she lied about those things. She's still presented as someone in same boat as V and a woman to boot, game really wants to want to protect her from FIA
>>750588840I liked Cyberpunk before 2077 and still thought 2077 was shit until the 2.0 overhaul despite anime airing at 1.6.
>>750589926I thought about it before, proper fight would ruin the moment.
>>750590229At the very least I wish the moment changed based on your Attributes. Cool or Reflex can win a shootout but I wish Int could hack him or Body could chuck something at his head. It felt a little odd for my Netrunner to whip out an Overture he never used before.
>>750590472true, but they really wanted it to be more cinematic. I guess it wouldn't look cool if Reed just dropped dead from quickhack
>>750589170uh those games are loved because of the world
>>750567230This is true btw>>750567308This is only half true btw because it's actually better than GTA
>>750567048talia is the ultimate woman. Rich, tanned, has abs, psycho to her enemies but sweet to you
>>750570345video games are supposed to be something fun and relaxing you do after work, they're not meant to be an autism check
>>750591752Skill issue
>>750591752just because you have less brain power doesnt mean the rest of us have to suffer
>>750572838This is where I play dumb and don’t understand what you’re saying.
>>750567230The first season was ok but yeah the second season is a waste of time
>>750591648>Rich, tanned, has abs, psycho to her enemies but sweet to youthat's just description what women want in men...
>>750592054First one sucked, didn't see the second yet
>>750592198Women like bl*cks?
>>750592457tanned chads
>>750592198You know what they say. Through dick, unity
>>750567048If release a shitty buggy mess at launch and fix all the bugs everyone will forget just how shallow your game actually is and all the lies you spewed pre launch and instead compare it to the shitty launch version and praise all the bug fixes that shouldn’t have even been necessary thus getting you a shitton of rave reviews from normies
>>750567048>What is this phenomen called?Schizophrenia. You suppose to treat it. Multiple missions have multiple outcomes and you have multiple options how to solve them. It's literally not less of an RPG than anything old game unless you count hit % bs.
>>750569731>WAHHHH!! stop having fun!!! talk about how the game was immediately after release 6 years ago!!!why waste your energy seething, if you don't like the game don't come to a thread about the game.
>>750591091Not a direct hack but just show an Int V either slowed down or disabled Reeds gun, giving V time to shoot. Reflex would simply outdraw Reed, Cool might take out his gun then the brain, Body would just tank it.
Cyberpunk was in parts ok and in other parts great, so long as you didn't go into it expecting it to be what it was originally marketed to be.A lot of people liked it specifically because they bought it years after its initial release with no confusion over what it would be like. If you're stupid enough to pre-order or buy on release, you deserve what you get.The actual primary issue is the obviously chaotic development process. There's some itch.io tier QUALITY to some aspects of the game, while others have top of the industry effort put into them. You can see in the game itself just what of a clusterfuck the dev process must have been and how profound the issues in the company itself must be. How many offshoot companies have there even been so far, made by people fleeing CDPR? It's a clear warning to anyone with any sense to not buy any CDPR product even close to launch, if at all.
What's really crazy is that the anime was also total dogshit.
>>750584706>BetrayIt's kind of ridiculous how the game's writing assumes you hold any loyalty to glowniggers.Myers is an ex-Militech CEO who's now the president of the NUSA, in constant violation of international law and actively endangering the entirety of humanity through her fucking around with the Blackwall. Songbird and Reed are her dogs and complicit in this.The best option would be to screw them all over as best as you can, and that means sending Songbird off to the moon, since you aren't allowed to just kill Myers even when you have the perfect opportunity.
>>750594331>Songbird and Reed are her dogs and complicit in thissong wanted out, Reed was fine with it
>>750594735>song wanted outOnly after she was dying. Up until then she was gladly complicit and enjoying being a hacker god using the Blackwall protocol to break into people and systems.
>>750594735Reed hated the life too he was just too well trained of a dog to ever act on it
>>750594331>The best option would be to screw them all over as best as you can, and that means sending Songbird off to the moonWrong. Killing songbird is the best because there is no chance for her to capture her again. Also she loses reeds loyalty in that ending too
>>750595516>letting Myers get away with her crimes and letting her hide what she's done is best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTc09O9DZbkTHEY DON'T WANT ME IN THE CITY AT NIGHT
>>750595565Doesn't she get away with it in every ending?
>>750595628Songbird ending has her praetorian guard shoot up an airport and get butchered by V, while Songbird goes off to the moon to further Blue Eyes' plotting and leave it entirely up to them whether Myers gets fucked or not. It's the closest thing the DLC gives you to fucking her over, aside from just letting her die at the start.
>>750567230But I thought the anime tricked people into thinking the game is good?
>>750567048The anime launched the game into mainstream audiences, which consist mostly of gun and ball gamers that dont give a shit for RPG mechanics and had zero expectations for Cyberpunk because they didnt wait for it for 10 years like anons did.It has pretty graphics and guns. That makes it a 9/10 game for most normalfags.
>>750594027Even having a better idea of what I was getting into I was still disappointed by 2077. I think it was really hurt by the choice to force into the "AAA open world" mold. The mostly empty map with checklist side quests, the looter shooter mechanics and consequent level scaling and the obligatory theme park geography really distracted from what could have been an amazing semi-linear RPG.I get that you need to tick some boxes if you want to meet the audience their budget called for but if I had to make a game with the setting and story 2077 ended with, I would have had it take place in disconnected but much more dense and polished areas, like a bunch of Yakuza-style districts you can roam through plus the story locations. That's how you nail the feeling of being in an overpopulated concrete jungle imo.
>>750594961>So Mi why don't you defect, it's not like you will be hunted down and captured if you do
>>750595758pretty muchmake a game with pretty grafix and nice presentation oozing with cinematic moments, combined that with e-celebs and you're set.
What a garbage game lmao!
>>750573451>I enjoyed CP way more than GTA games.Nonce.
>>750595628>>750595516If you kill songbird Myers still get hero body to continue the project.If Songbird is alive and on moon then there's living proof of NUSA putting whole world in danger, also forces NUSA to massacre airport on neutral ground, angering other corpos. Letting Song go is biggest fuck you to Myers
Why do metally ill people pretend the game was some kind of niche when it sold nearly 20 million units even before Edgerunners?
>>750569731I know tortanic was the happiest moment of your entire life, but you have to let it go. It was 15 years ago.Babies born during Tortanic are now driving.
>>750596730because they are mentally ill liars with no lives so they can spam the same thing all day
>>750595342>Reed hated the life tooReed hated himself*, after "dying" he had option to leave and be free, he decided to be an undercover agent for seven fucking years
>>750596730You answered your own question anon. Not only are they mentally ill, worse - contrarians.
>>750596027kinda goofy headgear
/threadAlso I'm pretty sure the game was generally liked before the anime lol
>>750599814looks like high cut helmet with ear pro and futuristic visor
>>750600178i see
>>750584706really just depends on your V's outlook. I played mine sympathetically, the entire reason we're out there was to find a cure to OUR problem. Songbird is just doing the same. But also she is a massive threat to basically everyone, and should be controlled or killed to stop a malicious AI from escaping into the public net.
>>750567048Look no further than fucking no man's sky.The most boring game in existence yet people spam memes every update about "OMG FORGIVE YOURSELF SEAN MURRAY" when his game at it's core is still retardedly boring. No matter how much shit he slaps on it, it fails at everything it sets out to do with half baked shallow mechanics that don't improve on the shitty core of the game.
>>750567048Why lie tho? Everything you said is just false
i wish i had friends to play cyberpunk with
>>750567048I will say that the worldbuilding is very fun in my opinion.I like the slang at least. "Eyyy choom watch out before some gonk zeroes you for a couple of eddies before the gig aight? Would be a waste of good chrome."
>>750603156where is the RPG branching paths part then?
>>750603550In the DLC mostly
>>750603229The slang is dogshit. You can tell Cyberpunk was made by a bl*ck.
>>750603229Just for clarity, CD Projekt Red did not create any of this lingo, they just used what was already in the fictional universe.
>>750567048GOTYAY cry more little kid
>>750603690You mean the people who invent 99% of western slang?
>>750567216>steamie deflectionSony games haven't garnered that kind of praise for a while now, retard, it's about time you found a new scapegoat.
>>750603690The slang is awesome choom, you're just a gonk little bitch
>>750567048>make promises>don't fulfil them>bad reviews>time passes>promises are forgotton>good reviews
>>750606087Holy shit get over it lmao. It's the game of the decade
>>750570687>Bethesda badYes.
>>750595728Can't start the DLC without 20 body just so I can get this cutscene because man you feel like such a little shmuck if Myers disarms you.
Starting new games is actually kind of frustrating because each Attribute is really fun when it's maxed out and I end up playing a dozen missions before thinking what it'd be like to play those missions with a different build/loadout.They spruced up the save/load system but I still have a bunch of old runs and the current corpo run has like 30 manual saves that schizophrenically jump from build to build that it's a pain to keep track of when I start feeling like playing one of the others. I feel like this game would have benefitted if instead of just V you played as a whole crew or some shit and could freely swap between them. I don't know how'd you keep track or scale all their chrome and guns but it'd be kind of fun.
