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Because after playing it you will be done with wow forever.
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>>750558091
That's how long you have to wait for release.
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forever retail, they mean.
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>>750558091
forever in beta lmao
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>>750558479
Well, actually... the beta is over. We're in the week between beta and release, and the only thing that can be done is name reservation.
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>>750558515
Also, we can lol at this, because the game isn't even out and it's happening.
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how do people still play this game? its dogshit.
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>>750558564
This problem doesn't even exist anymore. People were just impatient.
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>>750558091
Because the mentally ill retards still playing WoW 22 years later will literally be playing it until the day they die
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forever lying
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>>750558680
plains confirmed
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>>750558680
To no ones surprise at all
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It will last forever and not just devolve into raidlogging in 3 months and then slowly die
>How?
Sh-shut up
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fuck wow

im ready for world of diablo or world of starcraft
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>>750558091
If I fast 50 days and die while playing WoW Forever will I respawn in Azeroth?
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>>750558564
>HD model
Concern disregarded
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>>750558680
>rather than horizontal character progression
They already confirmed levels will stay at 60, so there is no other option than horizontal character progression.
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>>750558564
fuck these goofy, looney tunes looking clown shit.

>>750558775
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>>750558805
You are brown
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It felt like they needed another month or two of beta to figure out what t do with the game.
>bunch of talents / racials that give unnoticeable damage buffs like 10% for 10 seconds where you wont realize you are doing more damage unless you look at meters.

>holy paladins have a bunch of PvP talents. their PvE healing is lackluster
>best paladin DPS spec is holy/ret hybrid
>prot 1 shotting is back in the game because paladins whined they wanted their meme back
>elemental shamans can no longer crit on command and chain lighting does less damage than lightning bolt unless there are 3 targets.
>rogues have yet to get their forever rework. They are basically a vanilla class in agame with wotlk calsses. devs said they want them to be top single target DPS, but they sim as among the worst, their main DPS talents all got nerfed by 30-50% to curb their scaling. sub spec is not a viable DPS spec yet.
>warriors rage was gutted and they werent compensated so they will be 10 apm class now. class is only kept alive because prot is OP now
>warlock buffed to insane levels despite already being an S tier class in classic
>druid get wishlist of things made baseline
>priests get fear ward baseline, devouring plague baseline, healers get penance, pom, binding heal.
>shadow priest get 20 yard range mindflay that slows by 50% and ramps in damage the more you use it.
>hunters can have 50+ yard range and pets scale with stats now

the winners seem to be warlocks, hunters, druids, and priests.
Paladins arent too terrible but their holy tree is suffering from "class dev wants to play PvP syndrome", warriors need a rework to not be the most boring DPS in the game because of lack of rage regardless of how much damage they do, rogues are still waiting on updates to bring them up to date with other classes and make them worth picking. elemental sham will be good turrets but they arent allowed to have fun anymore.
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>>750558819
Brown people seethe about WoW thoughbeit.
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>>750558805
Until 2 years after launch when they charge $30 for 5 extra levels and another $30 for Blood Elves and Draenei and a new sanctuary city that 65s will never leave.
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>>750558775
>world of diablo
fuck you, now I want this and I know we'll never have it
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tired of fucking wow

need world of starcraft
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>>750558845
hunters did not win
the class continues to have pre-wotlk tier talents, which basically do jackshit compared to any other class
it's a class with no meaningful spec diversity held together by their basic toolkit, much like rogues
>but the dps is good!
who cares they play like ass
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>>750558205
lmao good one
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>>750558990
>but they play like ass!
who cares the dps is good
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give me world of starcraft

also

give me ship space battles like star citizen

also

let me explore unknown planets and build
and mine it too

fuck you blizzard stop being lazy fucks and rehashing last week's hamburger helper over and over (world of shitboxcraft)
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>>750558946
>>750559098

no. fuck you. your suggestions are too alpha and masculine. you will enjoy reheated wow. you will wave the tranny flag. you will /dance in goldshire for coppers. fuck you
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>>750558091
Because the upcoming XIV expansion also has the word ever in it
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>>750559963
holy shit I didn't even realize that
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>>750558680
They probably could have gotten plenty of hype just off of saying that, why mislead people like that with fucky wording
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>>750558091
Because you will be there forever.
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>>750558205
FPBP
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>>750558091
>>750558091
>>750558205
>>750560171
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>>750558091
immortalized how shit wow is
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>>750558845
I think ele is underrated. Like, the numbers aren't there, but the spells and talents are; it's just a matter of tweaking the damage numbers at 60.
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RETAIL
MINUS
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>>750560365
finally an MMO I can enjoy in the one hour a week my wife lets me play
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By the way mages just got massively nerfed again in the most recent build.
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>>750558805
>what is raid gear
That's vertical progression bro.
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>>750560828
New post-Classic raid gear can be horizontal because it will still be at level 60 power scale basically like how FFXI new gear sets would just be used for a new tool set.
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>>750560947
compare mc gear to naxx gear. there's no reason it can't continue to go up
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>>750558091
cause its staying at 60 forever
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>>750560947
Getting a new tool is vertical progression
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>>750560989
Well yeah but that's standard for vanilla. After Naxx it doesn't need to go "up" anymore.
>>750561106
Not every new tool is raw power.
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>>750561182
it will need to go up for whatever they're adding
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>>750560692
how so
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>>750561182
Having more options simultaneously is raw power
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>>750560365
>UGH I'm soo OLD and my time is LIMITED, wouldn't want to WASTE it. At least the WIFE still lets me play, amirite fellow GAMER DADS?
Fucking disgusting, why do normgroids feel the need to share what miserable slaves they are?
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>>750561246
Incinerate now has 5 ranks from 3
Critical mass now has 3 ranks from 5
Arcane Focus deleted
Arcane Resilience to Row 1
Missile Barrage to Row 2
Imp Fireball renamed Accelerant and now affects AW
Ice Lance now has 8s CD
Frost Blast still exists in data but removed from mage spellbook*
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>>750561698
>Ice Lance now has 8s CD
there is no way
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because its a retirement home for millennials incapable of moving on
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>>750561770
It's in the build that wowhead scrapes
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>>750561810
priest it is then
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>>750558845
feels good to be a warlock and hunter main
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check THIS out
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>>750558845
Holy Paladin is legit complete trash right now. Like 50% worse single target healing than every other healer, mana generation was gutted and they barely even have healing support in their talent tree.
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>>750558205
fipibipy
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>>750562092
you WILL play prot
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>>750562092
>>750562142
You WILL play holy, retards. They will buff it, and you will don the dress. What's that? Transmog? I turned that off, sorry....
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>>750562184
Holy was always a single button cuck class in classic. It's what the biggest shitters played because Druid/Priest/Shaman had too many buttons to manage.
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>>750558205
heh, got 'em
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>>750558845
>It felt like they needed another month or two of beta to figure out what t do with the game.
Nigga a month or two wouldn't have done shit, they have no idea what to do, they fucked up irreversibly from the very start
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>>750562343
seething retroon wants blue elf for ximself
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>>750558091
so people will stop asking for a new F R E S H classic+++ but good this time!! every 3 years

this is all the blizzdrones will get FOREVER
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>>750558091
Because the retards still playing WoW in 2026 are hopeless morons who they know will play their "classic" retail minus slop forever.
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>>750562367
Forever is retail
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>>750562439
and im going to having a blast
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>>750562439
Forever is actually fun, so nope.
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>>750562495
>Forever is actually fun
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>>750562519
oh nooooooooooooooooo my fun is le ruined
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>>750558091
What is this exactly? i saw asmondgold play this and like don't understand. is this suppose to be warcraft without expansions?
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Because they will constantly release new stuff and you will play it forever. You will never run out of things to do.

I don't really fucking know. Some people are saying they're going to reboot the entire game I wonder if we'll get Burning Crusade: Forever but it's going to be with the new engine, and I guess they'll rewrite the storyline. I seriously think that is what is going to happen. I bet in about 6-10 months or so we'll get a Burning Crusade: Forever expansion announcement, and they're just going to re-release every expansion...again.
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>>750562558
Check out all this new content that disappears after the starting zones
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>>750562623
noooooo but i cant possibly level up without extra slop quests
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>>750562563
Yeah, basically.
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>>750562623
genuinely though what the fuck is the point of adding a bunch of quests and new low level items and dungeons people will just blow past in a week?
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>>750562623
doesn't add up
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>>750558091
because anyone who still gives a shit about wow is going to be an eternal paypiggy and keep paying for it forever
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>>750558990
i dont understand this. you have melee hunter which is something new entirely. then you got beast master which has buffed pets and summoning birds as well, and then you got lone wolf sniper marksman. my friend who mains hunter is super excited to play hunter in this.
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>>750562623
Loch modan seems like the best place to level for alli after the starting zones now. Far away from the schizos of westfall and redridge and close to hot. New quests means you should be able to hit 15 or q6, go do hot and gain a level or 2 and then go do minimal quests for deadmines and then duskwood and from there take your pick as to where to try to not get raped by horde
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>>750560649
Wow players with this issue should just find a boyfriend for their wife to enjoy unlimited playtime
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>>750558805
Each raid doing nothing but adding 50 item levels is extremely vertical progression
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>>750558091
because addicts will never stop being a paypiggy for Blizzard for this game
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>>750562798
>why should they do it
Fun.
>why are they doing it
Copying Turtle/Ascension.
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>>750563119
>Copying Turtle/Ascension.
Thankfully, no.
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>>750562816
Graph doesnt include the 30+ zones. We know theres at least one new area or dungeon or some shit in stv
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>>750563140
What do you mean, no? They specifically got Turtle and CoA shut down because they were running Classic+ servers, and surprise surprise, just as everybody expected Blizzard is now finally releasing a Classic+ server, years after the concept had already been proven by private servers. In what way is this not copycattery?
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>>750563203
classic+ is not some genius concept that only a russian tranny could think up
i mean they are not copying turtle's class changes etc (thankfully)
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>>750563228
>classic+ is not some genius concept that only a russian tranny could think up
>you think you do, but you don't
It's not a high IQ concept but Blizzard is so retarded they can't visualize the apple in their heads, they need fans to create actual working servers for them before the concept can really sink in that this is an actual thing you can do and is in fact a good idea that people will actually enjoy and play on.
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>>750563340
ok, so what?
let's say they heckin stole the concept, oh no, i dont care, hehe
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>>750563361
It shows a lack of vision on their part, I'm not making a moral accusation here. Modern Blizzard is a cargo cult effectively. They don't have any ideas, they need people to copy from and unfortunately for them they went out of their way to shut down some of their best sources for ideas.
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>>750563508
oh no a lack of vision? :(((((
what was turtle's vision? paying for torta's treatment with the p2w cashshop?
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>>750558091
Good morning Saar, how is the weather in Mumbai today?
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>>750558091
is just a name. if they released a wow forever 2 you would still lap it up from your wife's dripping vagina filled with another man's cum and say MORE PLZ.
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>no high elves
I played the REAL Classic+, so I'll "forever" avoid playing that crap.
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>>750563140
they already copied ascension with SoD lmao
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Because that's how long Turtlefags will be crying about it.
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>>750558091
Pay monthly subscription forever
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>>750563751
>I played the REAL Classic+
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>/v/ when $15 subscription gets you hundreds of hours of entertainment
>:(
>/v/ when gacha game requires thousands of dollars for a single character that is powercrept in a month
>:)
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>>750564106
noooo 36 slot bags aren't p2w, that's just a convenience!!!
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>>750558091
So it'll be funnier when it shuts down.
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>>750564206
delusional shazamtranny LOL
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>>750564110
you rarely see gachashit discussed here, subhuman
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>>750564265
>you rarely see gachashit discussed here
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>>750564265
>you rarely see gachashit discussed here, subhuman
LOL the average brown's default state of existence: lying and deceit
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because i'll be pissed off forever that someone took my name only i used in classic and retail while i couldn't log in for 45 minutes due to blizzard's shit servers
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>>750562439
This announcement always reminded me of Planetside 2 with the commercial all brand weapons.
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>>750564328
happened to me too, now I have some shitty pun Reddit dad name
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>>750564328
>>750564401
How can you not use the first name + last name thing to get the name almost, if not exactly right?
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>>750564401
even worse if it's someone on a different ruleset and i won't even see them ingame to call them a faggot. no idea why they did it by region instead of by ruleset

>>750564470
i don't want an alternate spelling or stupid accent characters in it
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>>750558845
I like rogues as they are, thank you. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
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>>750564634
But they changed it from tick based so the class actually got a lot of skill expression removed and nerfed openers?
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>>750563906
kek
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>>750558091
My friend who's been playing since original launch in 2004, and who's been trying to make me play this shit since that time (never succeeding) says it's because level cap will remain 60 perpetually and the lore and world will stay in Vanilla era, just with newer gear and end game content being released as time progresses.
I could be wrong, but that's what I gathered from his rambles.
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LFG Deadmines
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>>750564930
>shift-click
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>>750558805
Nigger there is nothing stopping the devs from powercreeping the fuck out of the game where we can arrive again at bosses with billions of hp and gear that has 50.000 stamina on a wrist item
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Fire Metzen.
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>>750565218
Fire mage pvp
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>>750562867
all specs will play exactly the same : with all the gaps in bm rotation they will also melee weave, only difference being they won't have strider kick macroed in raptor strike
the class lacks defining abilities in their talent tree in both vanilla and tbc, meaning it will always come down to the base kit
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>>750565239
Silence, dalit
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>>750565286
Ranjeet, you realize nobody outside of your poop kingdom cares about the gay names you have for different shades of poop people?
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>>750565353
Do you ever stop thinking about poop?
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>>750565374
>no saar u r the poop not me
>*shits self*
>*posts frog*
lol
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>there's still "people" playing blizzslop in 2026
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>>750565441
Bloody idiot, I bet you fuck my sister don't you? Sister fucker retard
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>>750558091
Whenever a company says something is forever, it doesn't really last long.
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>>750565474
everyone I know is giving it a try, but I doubt most will still be playing in a months time.
I'm gonna play it until poe 2 comes out and if I'm still having fun I'll continue playing over my winter break.
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>>750558205
THAT WAS SEXUAL
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>>750565547
This time, it's different.
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>>750558680
This was obvious to anyone the moment they said
>What's the catchup mechanism?
>Play the game!

Obviously characters will grow in power as new raid tiers release. But I think the idea will be we'll be going from tier 1 all the way to tier infinity rather than doing 2-3 tiers then an expansion jump with a level cap rise that invalidates tiers 1-3 and makes 4-6 the only thing that matters.

More expansion of the world so the sandbox constantly gets bigger is a much better design philosophy than "Every couple years we leave to go somewhere new and invalidate the old content"
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>>750562439
>>750562343
The sky elves were meant to be a fun aside to Forever, a bit of a "This is gonna be a different timeline" flavour piece. The devs said in the podcast that the marketing guys saw the blue elves and were like "WOAH, THIS HAS TO BE FRONT AND CENTRE OF THE MARKETING CAMPAIGN" and didnt realise the shitstorm they were creating.

There is literally nothing wrong with another high elf sub race being added as an optional extra when the high elf model is the most popular retail model to play as. Its a no brainer
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World of Warcraft Jiggle Physics Removed Forever
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>>750562623
>That disappears after the starting zones
Whats the issue? Nobody has ever complained that there's nothing for max levels to do in Westfall before. Some zones are meant to be levelling zones.
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>>750563751
High elves are coming to Forever. They're obviously gonna use them as their own big marketing content drop. I wouldn't be surprised if we get a full "Quel thalas expansion"
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>>750562439
>Forever is ret-ACK
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>>750558205
you jest but this would be so heckin wholesome for most of the addicted british cigarettes that continue to play this game and can't quit
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>>750558990
Vanilla hunters are fun though
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>>750566195
ye going oom after every pull because you used something other than autoshot is a blast
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>>750566267
>you have to manage your mana
That's every class in Classic/Forever. That's what water is for.
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>>750566418
Every healer has a 50% mana regen while casting talent now, 20% more than a T2 bonus priest with talents from Classic.
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>>750565892
They added blue elves for both factions for a reason. They won't add High Elves or Blood Elves.
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>>750558564
>give alliance the best racials
>people still swarming to the horde
alliance are just gay I guess? why does no one like them
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>>750566468
Retoilet players are reddit and brown so they all want to play horde.
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>>750566439
Mitigation and tons of other mechanics are also tweaked. What's your point? That's it's not classic? It isn't.
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>>750558091
Because it will be facing an EoS in 2-3 years tops.
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>>750566418
if only it were a mana issue...
I just don't understand what's fun about hunter in vanilla when wotlk hunter completely mogs it
>this isn't wotlk
it is for some classes
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>>750566468
Everyone is swarming to the Horde to gank Asmongold and not have Olympus spamming general chats.
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>>750558091
to recreate the vanilla experience that's how long it's going to be between updates

shoutout to my boys at patchtimer.org
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>>750558564
>horde cries about alliance op racials
>most people pick horde, not alliance
i would say buff all alliance racials to 200%
or get rid of server faction balance but force faction balance on a layer basis, meaing if theres too much horde most of them wont get to see a single alliance character to gank.
lets see how they will still cry about this, because this is what horde players do, cry. because somehow its the muslim faction as well as the rainbow faction.
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>>750566643
He's playing on PvE server, the guys a mega pussy.
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>>750566468
>Give alliance the best racials
Humans, the flagshipt alliance race, have garbage racials

>One gets replaced by trinket
>The other is purely a bit of situational stealth detection for pvp
>Bonus spirit is best on priest - with the worst priest race (Admittedly more spirit is always nice on everyone though)
>Crit is good

Very underwhelming racials honestly.
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>>750562623
>>750562816
now remove the breadcrumb quests
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>>750558091
It signifies how long its players will be male for.
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>no high elves
>breast physics removed
>drag race goblin turned into a drag queen
>paintings censored
>race girl at shimmering flats has pants
>no WoDmodel or nude mods
>all non-sanctioned addons banned
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>>750558940
Vibe code it.
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>>750567497
so...forever? i already now that retail is for homos and transformers and forever is for straight white man
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>>750567589
This is our game.
We like this.
Next up will be the pride event ported over from retail.
You lost, chuddie.
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>>750567613
>forever is for straight white man
then why is the majority of the population oc troon tranny flag colored elves...?
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>>750567641
But they are just blue tho, are you sure your brain isn't just autocorrecting things you want to see?
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>>750564106
>36 slot bag which means there is a maximum amount of weight and space on it
>"never seems to change"

They can't even get roleplay descriptions right
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>>750558205
FPBP
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>>750566468
horde has always been cooler, though i am surprised they're still popular without belfs
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>>750567589
>all non-sanctioned addons banned
good
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>>750566513
but retoilet whordelets are all blood elves exclusively.
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>>750569269
horde are just black people and alliance are whites
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>>750566468
Horde has always been the faction for people with taste. Why wouldn't you want to play Horde, especially vanilla Horde?
You get to be a cool Orc smashing shit.
A Jamaican Troll who goes wagwan
Literal Undead
And Minotaurs.

The fuck does the Alliance have in comparison?
One of the most boring Humans ever in Fantasy, purple Elves, Dorfs and Garden Gnomes
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>>750563751
>300 hours of your lift wasted in an instant

oof, thats gotta hurt
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>>750561986
wow cool the "i'm free honor" build i like it anon
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>>750558091
Because that entire BlizzCon was made more for shareholders than for the players.
They announced a ton of new projects but for 2029/2030, just to tell investors "our IPs are alive don't worry guys"
Same for this new WoW version, instead of giving it a normal name, they named it "Forever" to tell investors it will last a long time, when it reality they will just call the next expansion "Forver 2.0" instead or something like "Burning Crusade Forever"
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Because wow-cucks will continue deluding themselves, like the good slop piggies they are, that the next expansion will be good and heckin save wow 'forever'!
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>>750558091
because they expect you to pay the sub forever
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>>750566468
>give alliance the best racials
bro,
your mount speed plainsrunning?
your best damage racial in the game aka bloodfury?
your touch of the grave for infinite sustain?
your extra troll bandage?
your smurf elf sprint?
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>>750558845
>It felt like they needed another month or two of beta to figure out what t do with the game.
Why? Blizzard could release a map that says "fuck you" and people would gobble it up and ask for more.
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>>750562798
Because wow players are retarded and actually believe a couple new quests to collect 10 boar asses will make the game just as fun as when they played it 22 years ago as a child.
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>>750558205
this
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>>750558845
>warrior is only kept alive because prot is OP now
cool, that means there won't be a shortage of tanks now... right?
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>>750566468
ever since retoilet tried their horde dindu arc and giving them op racials they've amassed the pussy pvp players with the faction. People flock to them knowing they'll win 75% of bgs off it.
unironically brown coded mentality like joining a black warband to rob payless shoes
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>>750558091
>Why do they call it "Forever"?
That's how long it will take Blizzard to add High Elves and Blood Elves.
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>>750567613
>i already now that
The average Fagever fan is a retarded ESL brown poster as you can see.
>the same company that pozed one game wont poz their new one
Good logic you brown retard! Lets see how it pans out.
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>>750565808
The problems are:
1. It's lazy, if you're going to add a "new" race and charge for it put in the effort to make a new model, you're a milti billion dollar company
2. When they inevitably DO add Blood Elves/Forsaken Elves/High Elves (they will definitely be adding some of these) we're going to end up with the same Blood Elf model repeated and a stupid population count will just be a variation of Blood Elf, just like retail.
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>>750566468
Horde have been the more popular faction for 20 years and now that the racials have been buffed twice because forever horde people with 25k of horde merch on their wall complained for weeks on reddit and twitter theres no FOMO. I wouldve gone horde this time if it wasnt for my guild because being on the more popular faction with the biggest crybabies and gaslighters has always been the best racial.
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>>750574696
it doesn't matter because they'll sell like hotcakes. blizzard is a company. their goal is to make money, not please contrarians like you. more people will buy "lazy elf reskins" than obese retards (ogres) or whatever other no-shoes race you have in mind, and it's not even remotely close.
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>>750569404
you are fucking retarded and probably never played a warcraft game
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because im gonna play it as slow as possible
treat it like an open world rpg with online components

idgaf about meta
or racial meta

im just gonna enjoy questing exploring
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>>750575148
I don't disagree but as always with the modern company mentality, it's all about short term profits against long term goal (the game not turning into retail and having its target audience quit because of this).
I agree people who want stuff like Ogres and Goblins don't really understand that a company is not going to devote time to develop something that they know wont sell anywhere near as much as something else, but there has to be a middle ground too at some point, or else why even have races and not just World of Elfcraft?
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>>750575516
>(the game not turning into retail and having its target audience quit because of this)
they'll just release forever classic and millions will come flocking begging blizzard to take their money
haven't you learned by now? blizzard cultists have no standards.
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>>750558845
>>best paladin DPS spec is holy/ret hybrid
What exactly is the problem with that. You think classes in vanilla put 51 points into 1 tree?
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>>750565239
>the class lacks defining abilities in their talent tree in both vanilla and tbc, meaning it will always come down to the base kit
So... just like every class in Classic
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>>750562623
Those starter quests are just the camp quests
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>>750575735
no, not even close
you can check the talent trees yourself
pretty sure hunter is the class which loses the least dps by going 0/0/0 for this exact reason too
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>>750561218
It doesn't have to. Guild Wars 2 solved horizontal progression ages ago and they haven't raised the level cap in like 4 expansions.
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>>750558205
god I hope so, release me from this curse
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>>750564930
>lfm DM tank and heals the g2g
>join party
>2 warriors and a paladin
Just like old times...
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>>750565712
There is no sandbox retard, vanilla is already a raidlog simulator and the world is wholly irrelevant
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>>750577830
Neat all leather gear to my bear
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>>750558091
Its where all of us are getting Isekai'd to just like my favorite anime. AI is taking our jobs and shoving us in the matrix. 1999 and it was predictive programming.

Can't wait to gank your mom.
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>>750578350
Leather is only for dps
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>>750577830
happens since no respectable group would invite mail/plate dps
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>>750567589
there were never any physics in wow idk what the fuck youre on about
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>>750579798
No anon you don't understand
I NEED that titty bounce that somehow deforms plate armor
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>>750580073
>I NEED that titty bounce that somehow deforms plate armor
esto pero no irónicamente
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>>750567497
May all wow fags burn
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>you can jump around with frands and asmongold in a decades old game as you all parrot wowforum gameplay talking points from literally 20 years ago
>also we added water

wow players are a different breed entirely
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>>750560365
As long as you're exploring the game figuring things out on your own and having fun, how is it wasting time?
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>>750558091
Whole shit pure cancer, (and somehow the comments even more)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NPbTAXZL_2A&pp=ygUhd29ybGQgb2Ygd2FyY3JhZnQgZm9yZXZlciB0cmFpbGVy
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>>750583458
>CUZ THE END OF-
I've never closed a video so fast in all my years
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>>750583630
>hating Evanescence
zoomer
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>>750558091
Because when you see it you will turn 360 degrees and moonwalk away forever
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>>750584287
Evanescence sucks dick
Within Temptation and Lacuna Coil are better in every way
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>>750560365
Cant wait for tanks to go AFK every 5 mins because gamer dads have more important things to do than this stupid game
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>>750584826
You had to be there.
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>>750585693
>tank goes afk for the 5th time in a run due to "wife aggro" or "smoke break"
>kick them and just tank the rest of the run myself
WE WILL NEVER BE SLAVES
BUT WE WILL BE CONQUERORS
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Was going to go lock because I am a lock at heart before I quit during Cata, but I am considering balance because it looks fun in BGs with high mobility, roots, and offheals.
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>>750586546
>smoke break
damn, is tanxiety real?
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>>750586798
smokers are fucking drug addicts and i hate interacting with them in any capacity, not just during video games
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this will be my first time playing WoW without being a smoker, I wonder how much faster I will level
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>>750586798
Yeah people get really stressed out while playing the easiest role in the game.
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>>750585729
I was there, it was screaming white woman music for screaming white women ie my mom who had that shit on repeat until my ears bled. Fuck off with that boomer crap.
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>>750558091
Because they know for a fact the beaten-wife syndrome "people" still playing official blizz servers will play this Forever; it's signaling to the investors that they have an infinite money generator.
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>>750587072
why would anyone be stressed playing ranged dps?
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>>750587340
Mr. ESL, he said 'easiest', which is referring to tank. I know it was a hard post to parse.
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>>750587308
>my mom
Ah so now have the real emotional reason it upsets you. Sorry that happened, Anon.
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>>750558091
it's how long blizzard has to pay the 4chan staff to allow these obvious generals on /v/, more than one at a time to boot as well
a lotta money is being passed under the table for sure
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>>750587403
>Mr. ESL
oh, the irony
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>>750587792
Mr. ESL, there was no irony in that post. Please learn what the words you are using mean.
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>>750558091
Because they'll milk low-skill-cap tab-target mmo shitters forever.
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>>750587908
look, I know you are upset, but take a deep breath
english can be hard for people like you, but I'm here to help you
you can do it!
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>>>/vg/
>>>/vg/
>>>/vg/
>>>/vg/
>>>/vg/
>>>/vg/
>>>/vg/
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>>750587403
He was being sarcastic because the "easiest" role to play is caster DPS, you fucking dumb retard
>>750588171
Shut the fuck up faggot
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>>750588318
>He was being sarcastic because the "easiest" role to play is caster DPS, you fucking dumb retard
NO
REALLY?
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>>750558845
It's fucking embarrassing that class design was seemingly the last thing they worked on, and they have fucking zero clue what they are doing with most of them. Oh but don't worry, the great new Camping feature is fully finished. What is the point of new content if the classes feel like shit to play?
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>>750588965
The issue is good class design is literally not vanilla
Dps classes didnt get decent until Wrath/Cata, Healers Cata/MoP and tanks MoP
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>>750589253
I agree. I wish we were getting WotLK+ instead.
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>>750558205
They still won't give us WarCraft IV...
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>>750558946
Fuck no.
Also I don't want that damn FPS anymore.
All I want is SCII retconned and replaced by a far better story, with mechanics that prioritize the casual player so that people can get into multiplayer without being violated by Koreans the moment they enter it.
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>>750590007
And they never will. Nu-Blizzard is running on fumes, they can only re-release Classic over and over to the well-domesticated goycattle that will always come back to the slop trough.
And you know what? That's a good thing. They'd probably make WC4 completely pozzed.
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>>750590126
>They'd probably make WC4 completely pozzed.
And I must agree with you.
In fact even if the wanted to make a 4th WC RTS...for starters they DON'T HAVE anyone who knows how to make an RTS anymore.
They'd have to hire the Hive Workshop people again...but not before giving me another DLC that this time is a full RTS experience instead of Founding of Durotar 2.0. Even if the story of Forsaken Kingdom was genuinely well done and enjoyable.
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>>750558401
Pretty sure release is a week away or less
Kind of late for a delay to happen but it is possiblez
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>>750588292
AAIIIEEE is that a thread discussing video games? All threads on this board must be twitter screencaps and AIslop
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>>750590528
what does videogame discussion have to do with making nonstop recurring threads on /v/ for months on end?
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>>750558845
I dont really have faith in blizz but to be fair, dont we not know anything about endgame balance because we cant datamine anything? theres so many new set effects and proc chance items and librams/totems/whatever that can radically change the balance

its still gay that classes will be incomplete turds unless they get their loot but its better than being horrifically imbalanced
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>>750590528
Don't worry anon. Instead of twitter screencaps it's twitter like posts, complete with schizos and personality cults.
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>>750589317
They needed to start with MoP like classic design, albeit we really should have dramatically new specs and approaches
And then totally overhaul endgame and progression
Instead they did nothing, half the specs are basically tbc mode with the biggest change just being debuff cap is gone, and progression is still shitty fetch quests into raidlog
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>>750563751
/thread
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>God Tier
BRD, Deadmines, Scholo, SM Cathedral

>Great Tier
SM Library, Strath UD side, SFK, UBRS

>Decent Tier
SM Armory, Strath Live side, Maraudon, Uldaman, ZF, DM North, RFD

>Meh/Forgettable Tier
DM West, DM East, LBRS, RFK, BFD, SM Graveyard

>Absolute Shit Tier
Stockades, RFC, ST, WC, Gnomer

Let the autistic screeching commence
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>>750565892
>High elves are coming to Forever.
lol
lmao even
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>>750591040
Put uldaman in shit tier
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>>750590121
Thats what SC2 is though? Most Koreans went back to Brood War because that game is more mechanically challenging.
And also you will always get violated by Koreans unless you make the game into pure RNG and luck.
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>>750591040
>UBRS that high
>Uld that high
>ZF that high

The fuck you smoking
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>>750591040
Nobody actually wants to do BRD
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shaman, pally, or druid, lads
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>>750591327
Shaman if alliance, we need you to don the dress.
Pally and druid for horde.
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>>750566460
More people will buy and play High Elves even with Skyborne already in the game than they'll ever buy hot garbage like ogres or goblins or whatever other ugly ass dysgenic freak race you think is the heart and soul of Warcraft.
I have no-shoes cope fatigue. Warcraft has always been an elfchad franchise. Fucking deal with it already.
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>>750591040
curious as to what exact metrics this list is based on. Aesthetics/atmosphere? Loot? Difficulty? Quests?
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Horde is evil and shouldnt have paladins to begin with. The whole faction divide is meaningless because everyone gets access to everything.
Its another Retail minus choice by devs.
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>>750585729
I was there faggot. Lacuna Coil is better.
Better vocals
Better riffs
Better lyrics (fuck that crybaby shit "waaah my boyfriend is drunk")
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>>750558091
because it is corpo-speak. Imagine it as a board pitch and it makes sense
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>>750591469
a youtuber gave that opinion to him. that's why BRD is the very first one at the top number 1 followed by literal corridors like deadmines.
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>>750591245
>Thats what SC2 is though?
Nope. With how it's made, for me the 1st game is mechanically less of a pain.
And then we have those damn deathballs...
Not to mention the story and atmosphere is way worse than in the 1st game.
If Blizzard were competent, which they are not, they would've introduced some quantum bullshit with different timelines and alternate realities like they did with WoW and then made it so that SCII was canon to its own timeline while a potential SCIII would've retconned the SCII of its timeline via the XCOM2 way (AKA: it was all a VR simulation).

At least with the multiverse idiocy of WoW, there could be a timeline where instead of WCIII turning into WoW, it would've become WarCraft IV. But nope.
Hence why I still hope Blizzard gets gutted. IT MUST BE.
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>>750558795
and they botched the SD models, they don't even fucking blink
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>>750590673
>dont we not know anything about endgame balance because we cant datamine anything?
Thank goodness
Dataminers ruined WoW
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>>750558091
this woman thought it sounded smart and intelligent and the fat bald bearded glasses wearing white dudes were too afraid to disagree
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>>750591620
female trolls didn't blink in vanilla either but it's suddenly a problem because uuuh uuuuh uuuh i hate blizzard!
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>>750591576
Really? What Youtuber? Link the video.
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Like him or dislike him, he's right and you know it
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>>750591885
what does this have to do with wowowawa?
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>>750591516
Horde shouldn't have Paladins because they don't deserve it.
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>>750591576
Deadmines is thematically a fun dungeon with Elwynn and Westfall quests leading up to it.
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>>750591674
This cunt was one of the most dishonest lying evil pieces of shit I've ever seen presenting a game. And I've seen plenty in my life.
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>>750558091
Because you’ll be known as a pathetic tranny forever more for still playing WoW in 2026.
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>>750591926

nothing, just another assmongoloid dickrider. I swear to fuck streamerfaggots and their worshippers are one of the worst things to plague gaming.
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>>750591982
What are you playing in 2026?
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>>750591885
I cannot imagine a more retarded thing to say from the retard woh keeps crawling back to Pozzard's slop trough.
What a surprise that a subhuman who uses a dead rat as an alarm clock, lets cockroaches crawl all over him, and cleans his boogers on the wall is also a grifter and a hypocrite.
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>>750591885
>literally who balding streamerfaggot who is going to play the game for a month or so and then fuck off to the next FOTM

Why should anyone give a fuck?
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I don't understand how it's so difficult
>fix the pain points of vanilla(not enough quests in some areas and level ranges, wildly unbalanced endgame balancing, engineering being head and shoulders above all other professions, R14 farming for some examples)
>add qol from retail
>add new zones, instances, classes, shit to keep it fresh
>look at what was already fun in 2004 and just keep doing that
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>>750591693
imagine defending this
>https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1x1n1w4/facial_expressions_missing_on_sd_model_textures/
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>>750591885
anyone have that full body picture showing how skinny this fucker is? dude's like borderline anorexic
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>>750566468
I just don't vibe with the races in the alliance, the only one mildly interesting to me are gnomes, they really should've taken some of the retail races and slap them in classic, to play sky belfs I don't need to pick alliance.
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>>750558205
I'll just play the best turtle successor, especially after forever fucking dies and blizz stops going after pservers
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>>750592185
i'm not defending it. i'm just pointing out how something that hasn't been an issue for two decades is suddenly a problem.
guess the tit jiggle didn't stick so you've moved on to the next performative problem huh? ex-wow player really are beaten wives.
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>>750592309
dude you're so full of it, we're getting a watered down botched downgrade and you're like well troll females had this one inconsistency before so all criticism is invalid
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>>750592497
yeah? during vanilla people played wow for the gameplay not to stare at the retarded character models and their stupid spraypaint armor
go back to retail or fuck off to xiv if you just want to play barbie dressup
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>>750592626
lol
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>>750563119
>Fun.
what exactly is repeatable fun aside RoL from the beta? i did the UD pally zone in beta so will never do it again, HoT is not as repeatable as RoL but also not as terrible as WE or Dal so you can include that. What else original to Forever was any good?
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>>750591885
>Supposedly anti-woke
>Is a walking Blizzard advertisement
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>>750566035
>750591115
Why are they white? High/Blood Elves are white because of the Sunwell. But there's are regular old highborne in the Skywall. Different thing. So why do they have a white skin tone option?
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>>750597120
Why do they look like high elves and not night elves?
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>>750592175
Weird how you skipped over the pain point of classes and content being mindnumbingly boring dogshit in vanilla
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>>750558091
>>750558205
samefag!
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>>750588023
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I'm just playing on HD. Honestly I wish they had just chosen one or the other so they don't have to do all the extra retardation when it comes to new gear sets.
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>>750563751
>high elves
Just make an skyborne elf with light skin and blue eyes
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>>750567497
>33
That fucker looks like 50, a fifty year old looking highschool math teacher to be precise.
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