How come they never became the next Final Fantasy?
Thank fucking God they never become like FF
>>750557840You've only played Symphonia
>>750557926NoThat's one of the title that I didn't play
>>750557759Namco is a publisher that lives on the skin of their nuts like Sega.
They're doing a survey on what remasters you want btw
>>750557759For a while their games were way better than the slop Square Enix was pumping out for FF.
>>750558656Please god give us a Symphonia remaster
>>750557759They half assed their fujo demographic is why.
>>750557759Not enough Tales of Hebephillia
>>750558656Is there an option "move your ass and release a new fucking game"?The only acceptable "remake" would be to make an actual Tales of game out of Crestoria's story.
>>750557759For some reason they saw the direction that Shining went in the mid 10s and then went "hey lets do that too". Every game released after roughly Abyss is just another mistake piled on top of more mistakes.And before anyone says it, Vesperia is good on accident. They couldnt pin down the difficulty with the new combat system and accidentally made Part 1, roughly between the wolf boss and the flying fish boss as solo Karol, into a sweet spot of difficulty that actually makes a compelling action game. You can tell that this is an accident because they spent half of the series iterating on this and developing comfort and familiarity with the system, and never again made as good of a progression that matches player tools and enemy difficulty.
>>750557759They failed at the transition to 3D.
>>750557759>a single fucking new mainline game in 10 goddamn yearsIt's dead. They even clearly repurposed the plot that was planned for a Berseria follow up for a gacha game given how its theme was in-line with Zestiria and Berseria.
>>750557759Because Bamco doesn't care more than the bare minimum.
>>750557759they never made one above a 7/10
>>750558497This.Arise put the series in the red. Several failed gachas put them in the red. Barebone remasters like Berseria and Eternia had the budget of a mcdonalds burger and starbucks coffee. Passion projects are gone. Namco only cares about easy cash from milk cows like Dark Souls and Tekken.
>>750558868A mod for the PC version recently dropped that lets you play it in 60fps and stuff, so I have no idea why whoever Bandai Namco has on the project couldn't figure it out. Such a joke...
>>750557759The only one I've ever played is Tales of Destiny.
>>750557759Because their games never pushed the envelope like other series have done. Every big series out there got popular because at one point they either did something different than the rest or did something way better than the rest. Modern FF might be a shadow of its former self but no one is gonna show up in here and tell you FF never had any influence in its genre or vydia as a whole. Meanwhile Tales is a franchise with ups and downs in terms of game quality but at no point were they ever a trend setter or major influence in the design of other games.
>>750557759Because for a series called "Tales," the stories are barebones and bad, and the characters are usually nothing beyond a dumb anime trope.
>>750557759Because it’s a series made for people who like anime rather than a series that makes you like anime
>>750557759Unfortunately the whole franchise is just depressingly mid.I'm not saying it's soulless, but there is nothing iconic anywhere. No iconic characters, mascots, music, moments, twists, nothing. That's why next to nobody even knows about this series, let alone cares about it. It has no identity.
>>7505577591/100th of the budget, looked like PS2 games for 3 generations until Arise.
>>750557759Maybe because xillia keeps crashing my ps3 for some reason.
>>750557759Because of being animeshit.At best they are Persona-tier.
>>750558981>new game announcement>Arise 2
>>750558868It already got one for the PS3.
10 hours into the game and I'm surprised at how much I liked Reid as the MCAct kind of aloof at times but actually pretty sharp and clever when situation calls. Also pretty competent.Reminds me of Yuri a little bit
>>750566069Skits are kinda a lazy way to tell a story. They were interesting at first but kinda lose their luster. In abyss it's like there's always two skits after every important cutscene
>>750566198In the older games they feel more like a bonus content, they're fairly short. Only later they became super elaborate and long even including exclusive arts and sprites
>>750557759Too anime for the wider audience.
>>750562458>KnowsPlenty of people "know" about it the way you know about store brand canned meat, it just never crosses their minds.Tales might actually be more bland than Dragon Quest.
I don't understand why the Tales of formula doesn't work better since you're literally just playing a decent shonen anime but it's a video game.Are anime fans just so extremely opposed to gameplay or something?
>>750557759Ion and Ariettas VA in English are amazing. Sometimes I would reload save slots again and again just to hear them say their lines.
>>750566652The franchise is very popular.
>>750566595I've only played the first two DWs but I've heard people speak about some DW titles as if they rival FF7/FFX. Only title I ever see treated similarly is Tales of Symphonia but even that wasn't enough to get into smash bros
>>750567130*DQ
>>750566652FFX is how you make an anime video game. The Jecht spheres reward you with lore but it's optional. The temples reward you with lore as well but it's optional (when you revisit them for lore dumps). The cutscenes are also better and more high definition than the Tales games that were out at that time. Also not enough sex appeal or fan service. At least by Japanese standards. Not that FFX had that but for a game series that is heavily anime you'd think you'd have a big breasted party member in one of the entries
>>750567130Tales of Symphonia only has such a big fanbase because it was one of very few JRPGs on a Nintendo platform with very few of them. It's the same reason why slop like Xenoblade, Skies of Arcadia and Arc Rise Fantasia are so popular.
>>750557759Theres like 60 of them and only like 4 are any good.
>>750557759Abyss and Symphonia were huge for the internet at their times, there just hasn't been the love put in since gacha took over. I blame greedy execs prioritizing gachaslop now they're getting their lunch eaten by chinks.
>>750557759way too weeb. At least FF is restrained in the anime crap department
>>750557759>Berseria: 2016>then nothing but gachaslop>Arise 2021>apparently a success>do nothing for 4 years>uhh idk, let's shit out bunch of remasters?I think normalfags don't even know this franchise is a thing
>>750569109>FF is restrained in the anime crap department
>>750570376>a girl kissing a guy?>that only happens in anime, I've never had that in real lifeImagine making a post like this lmao
>>750570429>you don't get it! every single girl in real life acts like a genki tsundere anime girl! every real life date looks like a scene out of romcom anime! I swear!lmao
>>750570528>every single girlYou only show webms of Yuffie though>I was never on a date and no one ever loved me, including my motherImagine continuing to make posts like this, lmao
>>750570575I can't tell if you are an autistic retard, an underage troll, or both. Probably both, judging by the way you type.
>>750570685>no webmRun out of "anime crap" evidence already after two scenes? KEK, utterly BTFOd
>>750570746Thanks for proving my point.
>>750570327They got fucking stuck making an MMO whats what happened
>>750570376Compared to Tales it is, very heavily anime as if someone was tasked to take an anime and condense it into a game.
>>750570376>>750570528>>750570858delete those
>>750557759>there is early 1 year of physical disk remaining and Namco still hasn't revealed Xillia 2 Remaster>tfw my PS3 copies of Xillia are the best way to own Xillia
Why do JRPG sequels always fail?Chrono cross, FFX-2, Persona 2, FFXIII lighting returns just to name a few
>>750557759The games are incredibly forgettable. I have played all of the games released since the PS3 era (including remasters of older titles). I barely remember any character and I do not remember the story of any of them. Considering I have spent a total of several hundred hours over the past 20 years playing these games, they have had almost no lasting impact on me whatsoever. They are like junk food; they're good in the moment but there's very little substance to them.
>>750571720Persona 2 was better than Persona 1. It was a 2/10 compared to P1, which was a 1/10
>>750557759>The games are incredibly forgettable. I have played all of the games released since the PS3 era (including remasters of older titles). I barely remember any character and I do not remember the story of any of them. Considering I have spent a total of several hundred hours over the past 20 years playing these games, they have had almost no lasting impact on me whatsoever. They are like junk food; they're good in the moment but there's very little substance to them.
>>750557759from all games there, there are at most 3 worth playing, its the COD of jrpgs. Also too weeb for mainstream appeal.
>>750571720Destiny 2 was successful, it outsold the original and is a much better game. It's kind of bad strictly as a sequel, but oh well.
>>750557759Anime is the reason
WHERE IS THE ABYSS REMASTER SCAMCOWHERE IS IT
>>750571347not really but ok
>>750571720I dunno what the fuck they were going for with this one
>>750557759make it like persona where you can fuck anyone you want
>>750557759Because they all sucked.Except for Arise, but the "fans" of the series shit all over it so it didn't get the widespread popularity it deserved.
>>750557759They tried with Arise, got a good sales but ruin the series forever. Apparently you need to sell your soul to gain these "modern audiences".
>>750557759WHERE THE FUCK IS MY COPY OF ETERNIA THIS SHIT IS STILL IN HONG KONG
>>750557759Personal rating of Tales games I played:>Tales of Phantasia4/5>Tales of Destiny4/5>Tales of Eternia2/5>Tales of Symphonia5/5>Tales of Symphonia DotNW2/5>Tales of Rebirth5/5, played with translated script>Tales of Legendia2/5>Tales of the Abyss3/5Tales of InnocenceDropped>Tales of Vesperia3/5>Tales of Hearts RDropped>Tales of Graces4/5>Tales of Xillia3/5>Tales of Xillia 24/5>Tales of Zestiria3/5>Tales of BerseriaDropped>Tales of AriseDropped>Tales of the Tempest2/5
