>>750554469
>It wasn't ANY good
ftfy

>>750554469
it's pretty good

>>750554572
at SUCKING
and not in the weird way the porn-brained devs meant it to be

>>750554469
moadra came out recently and i liked that better.
belmonts curse wasnt bad but a lot of things just felt off about it.

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>>750579291 >>750585229 >>750589841

Instead of another thread debating on if Castlevania has strain too far form its roots or not, how about we just have a Creaking Skull thread?

>>750554469
It wasn't that bad either. It's a 7/10 game.

It wasn't that bad either.

What's the music genre of the demo area?
https://youtu.be/K0NAbMtkVWw
Hapischord beats? Church Organ Synthwave? Whatever it is I kind of like it.
I do not wish to be spoiled by any of the non-demo music but I won't be playing the full game for a few months, probably even going to wait until next halloween. Also bara Trevor Belmont was fucking hilarious, I liked the background art but the monster and character art was garbage.

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>>750554469
I'm playing it, it IS pretty good
It might not feel like a Castlevania but I would like to see more from this
>It is actually better than Sucksong

>>750557998
I'm telling my friends rn that it reminds me of Enigma
>They're also french
It all makes sense

>>750554469

Just beat it tonight and it was great.

>>750554469
I liked it. Only cost me 20 bux too so that was nice.

>>750554469
>Dark Sigil relic has a bug that causes fast-traveling to break the graphics engine
Huh? How the fuck do you fuck something like that up?

>>750557998
this is the best track in the game

>>750554469
and how good is that good?

>>750561658
That's a huge disappointment to hear because I was hoping the rest of it was like that.
>>750561715
'that'.

>>750555032
is that favela metroid?

>>750554469
I agree it's fairly mediocre
>Overload of the same spikes/buzzsaw rooms everywhere across the map, barely any change or variety. Clearly just to pad the content
>Lazy tacked on RPG mechanic with the HK charm system
>Horrible music
>One of the most retarded fast travel system making exploration and backtracking super frustrating
>Extremely poor weapon and enemy variety, alongside poor weapon balance.

>get to the library
>horrific brap music
Worse than the bloody tears remix holy shit

>>750554469
I thought it was pretty damn good
Not SotN level good, but certainly better than all the other IGA-vanias

>talos fight
>dubstep starts playing
>timed escape sequence
worst part of the game so far also the actual fight was ridiculously simple
sitting at 91% now not looking forward to those 4 super fights in notre dame
overall I'm liking it surely these last couple boss fights will be good
oh hall of mirrors was also total bullshit

>>750554469
Pretty mid. I just wanted it to be over between 50% and 100% completion. Poorly-designed and balanced game. You can beat Dracula's first phase by spamming the Fist of Talos spell right before the enrage cutscene. He still takes damage. Same spell kills the final form like it's nothing. Also garbage upgrades and platforming. Not to mention combat.

>>750562301
What's with all the shills using this game to shot on igavanias? I've seen a ton of posts like these.

>>750562357
I have no clue, I haven't seen any of those posts. It's how I personally feel though.
It's also not shitting on them. Just stating that I think it's better.

>>750562357
It's the marketer's playbook
>this new game is just as good as the previous games
>this new game is the best of the series
>this new game is better than the previous games
>the older games weren't that good anyways!
You always see this shit with any new entry into a series that hasn't gotten anything for years.

>>750562357
sounds like there's a general consensus that ti's better than most igavanias if what you say is true

i haven't seen many posts to that effect, so if you say it's so a lot of people must believe it

Most castlevania games are pretty mid tbf senpai

it just isn't really a castlevania game. it has none of the hallmarks that make the series what it is. the devs frankly do not understand castlevania. there is a weird parallel here with two Silent Hill games in a row now that have nothing whatsoever to do with Silent Hill. Call it the era of the non-sequel, or sequel in name only

>>750562403
I know anons on /v/ get a lot of shit for the "old good new bad" mindset but this feels like the opposite.

>>750562357
Sounds like you already got your answer. A lot of people must think they're better than non-SotN Igavanias.

>>750554469
3rd best Castelvania aftery Symphony of the Night and Super Castlevania IV
Some of the platorming is too much though, not that they're too hard, but slow the game down a tad too much.

>>750562484
It does but I'm sick of feeling like any discussion on a game I'm interested in is dominated entirely by botfarms on both sides. Like take Valor Mortis, how no one talked about it sans the demo during next fest and how suddenly on release there were frequent threads all starting off the same way. "LOOK AT THIS FUCKING GARBAGE GAME LMAO FLOPPED NO ONE LIKES THIS SHIT LOOK AT THIS STEAM CHART" or "GAME IS BASED AND UNIQUE AND AMAZING AND THE BEST THING EVER WHY AREN'T YOU BUYING IT /v/" and how they all disappeared instantly. How Dragonwilds came out and how all the threads couldn't talk about anything beyond how it's totally better/worse than Valheim/Enshrouded and how those have disappeared too.
No one actually discusses a subject it's just like they're fulfilling a quota for posts expressing like/hate for it and this can be seen anywhere on the internet not just video games.

>>750554469
They should have made either an igavania or a classicvania.
Not a single fan wanted hollowvania.

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>>750562479

i don't get the argument that it "Doesn't feel like Castlevania". No three Castlevanias feel like each-other, we got the igavanias, the classics, the PS2 era beat-em-ups, whatever the fuck castlevania 64 was, and the horrible lord of shadows games. I dont know what hallmarks you are looking for but you play as a Belmont, with a whip, you fight death, dracula is the big bad, and you explore his castle. Game is fun I'd say better than SotN because the combat is actually challenging

>>750562629
I did

>>750562479
how is it not castlevania
go ahead I'll wait

>>750562629
I'm a fan that wanted that

>>750562257
>Lazy tacked on RPG mechanic
what rpg mechanic?

>>750562629
netflixtrannies wanted it

>>750562661
Castlevania 64 felt like a Classicvania translated to 3D with some exploration-based stages.

>>750562629
Well that's not true. I've been a fan since 3, and I wanted it.

>>750562753
please be bait, please

>>750554469
you have never made a positive thread in your life, according to, every game is shit and overhyped, and of course, you will never list better games, because in the end, you don't play games at all, never did, never will, the constant spam is a form of vengeance and nothing else.

>>750562753
kek no it didn't

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>>750562935

It was pretty good actually.
The soundtrack is subpar and game is too easy when you explore and level up a lot but it was very fun overall. Not a fan of the cutscenes tho.
Some character models may look weird but backgrounds look phenomenal, wished it had native HDR support. Unlocking the whole loading screen was great too, more games should do that.
Anyway still the best CV game we got since Order of Ecclesia. Gonna try the 4 hours achievement, it looks fun since a lot of progression is tied to knowledge.

>>750554469
It was alright. Looks incredible. I didn't finish it. Wasn't clicking with me for some reason.

>>750562783
It's true. Play Castle Wall, Tower of Sorcery, Tower of Execution, even Duel Tower or the Clock Tower. They take the platforming straight from Classicvania. The weight to your jumps, the hazards to avoid including enemies, it's straight from Classicvania. But you probably haven't played enough to realise it.
>>750562808
You haven't actually played any of them.

The whip and all the puzzles were really fun. Sucks to hate fun I guess.

>>750562818
Also it lacks bonus content like Boss Rush or other playable characters like Igavanias had. Also wished for a secret super strong boss or something.

>>750562864
>You haven't actually played any of them.
Iive played all of them that was released in the west, except the og game boy ones and curse of darkness.
and kek no it didn't

>>750562936
lmao no you didn't. You have no idea how the original games play. You're just another retarded casual. If you had played them then you would know how they actually play.

>>750562667
how about as an exercise you look at which of the gameplay systems were streamlined and which eliminated, which introduced or amplified, and what the moment to moment gameplay emphases are. we can set aside the fact that Castlevania is more than the sum of its parts and identify hos this game is just a modern Hollow Knight-like wearing a Castlevania skinsuit very easily. If that is something you enjoy, so be it, but it doesn't make it a proper Castlevania game any more than Silent Hill: Shaft in Scotland is a proper Silent Hill game

>>750562661
>horrible lord of shadows games
hey, the first one was good, 2 was ass

Could have been better, but at least I had a blast

>>750563009
ok so you're just a retard, got it

>>750562976
sorry that you're experiencing cognitive dissonance, friend. if that's what you need to cope

>>750562667
it was revealed to me the moment I first saw it and said, instinctively, this horseshit is not castlevania. easy! I don't need my (correct) opinion approved or ratified by anyone

>>750562753
>Castlevania 64 felt like a Classicvania translated to 3D with some exploration-based stages.
You're fucking retarded.

>>750563056
>schizo off his meds again
many such cases

>>750563032
>no argument
Yeah, pretty much what I thought. You can't back up anything you say so you just spout nonsense like the retarded casual you are. Boring.
>>750563057
Samefagging again? Try to actually make an argument for once.

>>750563009
so Symphony is not a real CV? ok.

>>750562880
Fun is subjective, you pansy ass liberal. I, a metroidvania enthusiast who has played like... easily 59 different metroidvanias, found BC was kinda mid. Its visually quite juicy but the gameplay just did not grab me in the way others did. Think about that next time before you go waving around black and white paint.

>>750563028
you want me to list every single gameplay system that is different because you refuse to analyze the game for yourself? and I'm the retard? How about trying a little critical thinking? I just gave you a plus 15 aura bonus to IQ for the next hour if you want to try it on for size, you're welcome

>>750563109
Back to /pol/ with your kind, nigger.

>>750563072
No samefag, retard-kun.

>>750563146
Is this all you're going to do? If you don't have an argument then just say so and head back to your Discord.

>>750563072
>no argument
>for a fundamentally stupid statement
oh, so the other anon was right. you were just baiting
good use of your time kek you "won"
anyway

>>750563074
no, that's not what I said, that's what you just said. Lock in, I know you can sort this.

>argue with me please please please
you sound desperate

>>750563172
No Discord, retard-kun.

>>750563178
No, it's pretty clearly a true statement, but evidently someone got their feelings hurt and is shitting up the thread. Was someone mean to you, anon? How sad.

>>750563210
That's where underage retards like you congregate. Nice try.

>>750563137
>getting upset over a joke post
Well you might actually be more left leaning than the guy I replied to. I won't take you seriously unless you have beaten 60 metroidvanias.

>please bite my bait
Jesus

>>750563238
Not underaged or retarded, retard-kun.

>>750562753
True, actually, and very few 3D platformers actually work that way. Castlevania 64 is one of the few that make you commit to your jumps and will punish mistakes.

>>750563240
>I was just pretending to be retard.
Sure thing, retard.

>>750562753
Castlevania 64 is nothing like a Classicvania. What the hell are you talking about?

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>>750563372 >>750563483 >>750581638 >>750586131

I can't even beat the first boss, I'm already level 5 from running back over and over and I still can't even come close. I had no issues with Hollow Knight but I can't do what this game is asking of me. I understand what I'm supposed to do, hit /. jump the cross, knock him when he's hanging in the air, etc, but I just can't execute it.

>>750554469
This but unironically. Already uninstalled.

>>750563268
If the shoe fits.

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Boy I sure do love video games. I'm glad other people on this board love video games.

>>750563303
it's just weird bait. now he's apparently samefagging agreement with himself.

>>750563293
Classic 4chud deflection. I'll take your concession and move on to the next thread.

>>750563315
No shoe fitting, retard-kun.

>>750563307
The early game is brutal then parry trivializes it. Another fun example of great balancing in this game.

>>750563303
Yes it is, have you even played these games? It literally takes concepts from Castlevania 1 and 3 and directly translates them to 3D. Castle Wall and Tower of Execution are the clearest examples.
>>750563358
Whatever you say underage b&.

>>750563337
Sure thing retard.

Can we talk about the fast travel in this game and how ass it is?

>>750563379
No underage b&, retard-kun.

>>750563391
everyone agrees the mirror travel is dumb, nothing to discuss

>>750563332
That makes way more sense honestly. What they said make zero sense at all.

>>750563402
Looks like I hit a nerve with that one. Why do kids come here and pretend to have actually played old games?

>>750563430
Why does pointing out a widely understood and obvious thing about a game (that you haven't played) make you freak out and start samefagging?

>>750563438
No kids, retard-kun.

>>750563307
Dodge? Also break his cross by attacking it. That's it.

>>750563391
Yes it's dumb as fuck they could have easily done save point travel and still had the hall of mirrors as a separate thing but they decided to overcomplicate it for no real reason. I guess it pads out game time which looks good on their end or whatever. Also having both mirrors and charon seems redundant.

>>750554469
you dumbfucks spam the same shit for silksong how the fuck am I suppose to believe you cry wolves. You see what you've been doing? All comes out of /v/tards's mouth are piss and shits. There are no credibility. Now I have to pirate and waste precious SSD write life too see if it is shit or not.

>>750563478
Maybe some day when you're older, anon. You just have to find a girl who likes retards with small cocks.

>>750554469
Agree. I still had some fun, but I find most metroidvanias just fun to play through anyway. The combat was a mess and platforming was bit jank.

>>750563430
just everday /v/ shit.

I enjoyed playing it and exploring the map to a 100% it, also did the speedrun achievement out of curiousity to see if I can actually pull it off but it was considerably easy since you can "skip" at least two segments if you know where to go.
It could've been better ngl but I don't think it was terrible.

>>750563506
Weird projection, retard-kun.

>>750563534
Retard

>>750562314
>sitting at 91% now not looking forward to those 4 super fights in notre dame
Sorry to disappoint you, but you apparently did the same thing I did. Fought Joan early, decided to dip and then come to realize later that she is the only boss there, the rest are different challenges

>oh hall of mirrors was also total bullshit
I've seen many people say this, but I liked it. It was different and unique. Trying to 100% that area could suck, but just dont be a completionist lol

>>750563476
dude, you're crashing out over someone calling you retard-kun for dozens of posts now.
maybe sit down and think about this one before talking about anyone else.

>>750563561
>crashing out
So you are underage.

>>750563554
>Retard
-kun

>>750563556
nta I did like Hall of Mirrors and did it in one go. Kinda got obsessed like "I ain't letting this zone beat me lmao"

>>750563592
Learn how quoting works, newfag.

>>750563521
>did the speedrun achievement out of curiousity to see if I can actually pull it off but it was considerably easy since you can "skip" at least two segments if you know where to go.
Does it work with any ending?

>>750563582
so you're crashing out
calm your tits

>>750563556
oh my god are you serious
well that's a fucking disappointment and yeah that joan fight kicked my ass so I left lol
definitely assumed it was gonna be 4 powered up boss fights, fucking shame

>>750563634
You can go back to discord now, underage b&.

>>750563621
>
No newfag, retard-kun.

>>750563668
We don't sign our posts here.

>>750563656
you can stop crashing out and getting red in the face

>>750563693
You realise that timing your posts like this makes your samefagging obvious, yeah?

>>750563625
Not with the bad ending. You can go with good ending easily because you can "skip" Library section where you search for those patterns to reach Carmila and the piano notes in Notre Dame

>>750563685
That doesn't even make sense in context, retard-kun.

>>750563605
Yeah. And I overall like it when metroidvanias force you to play without map. It improves your spatial awareness skills.

I still don't really understand what the later-part purple-mirror markings on the map mean. The first part was simple, just go to the mirror that is the cross-section of all of the pointing hands. But the purple mirrors point in weird directions and dont seem to direct you to 1 specific goal.

>>750563729
Do kids today not know what a signature is? lmao

>>750563706
apparently directly replying to you is samefagging
age is addling your red-in-the-face brain

>>750563784
Cope, samefag. You're doing a terrible job of this.

Why does this thread have two retards roleplaying a fight

>>750563797
you're certainly coping, yes

>>750563835
>no u
Is that really the best you can do, kid?

>>750563778
>Doesn't understand what context means.
One last "retard-kun" for the road, retard-kun.

>>750563827
it represents the belmont's curse
belmont and dracula fighting for eternity
two retards

>>750563872
You have a rather tenuous grasp of English, anon.

>>750563854
making an old man cry over a kid making fun of him? proving he has no better use of his time?
doing pretty good

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>>750563905
>i was only pretending
Sure, anon.

>>750563941
i'm not the one having a mid-life crisis on /v/, old man
looks like i hit a nerve. no wife to love you?

>>750563972
At least you're trying a bit harder now.

>>750564002
>ran out of responses
must've hit a big nerve
pointing out an old man crying over a kid on 4chan is definitely not trying hard. it is hilarious though

>>750564045
You got me, anon, you're a real winner.

>>750564074
maybe i can grow up to be as big a winner as a middle-aged man crying about people making fun of his Castlevania hot takes when i get older
something to shoot for

>>750554512
fpbp, shit was fucking abysmal.

>>750564126
I'm sure you will anon, reach for the stars.

>>750564126
TOP KEK

>>750558338
Comparing this Ubislop tier poop with nigger """music""" to Silksong :`)

>>750564191
>replies to his own post
Go back fag

>>750563740
Purple was the "reverse" like if reflection was pointing down, you had to go up!

>>750564126
kek

>>750564535
I kinda thought that was the case. But I randomly found the path forward in that high-room with all of the evil mirrors just by paying attention.

>>750554469
It was pretty good. Wish the bosses were harder though.

>>750564521
>maybe i can grow up to be as big a winner as a middle-aged man crying about people making fun of his Castlevania hot takes when i get older
>something to shoot for
TOP KEK

Rose is genuinely the most boring belmont

>>750564558
the "toughest" part was to find how to get into the room with the legendary life-stealing fists and that's because I tried that map before defeating the boss which got me to "reset point" and then totally ignore it until a friend told me about it

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>>750563709
I see. Good to know, much obliged anon

>>750565261
>can't get Charlie Kirk out of the Matrix
AI is going to start hallucinating him

>>750564126
kek got him

its pretty great desu
you cant have a positive opinion about it without being called a shill though
my main criticisms were
>the music (which isnt great or even good, but certainly not as bad as people are making out)
>the enemy variety - biggest issue by FAR
>traversal of the map was annoying, i get the mirror teleports, but 1 in each zone (usually the most convenient one too) is useless, and the hall of mirrors in general was kinda tedious

story was great, spells are fun to use/upgrade, game looks lovely, rose is a good protag, exploration was fun. The game was a little easy and lacks replay value, but hopefully DLC will address that.

>>750564126
lmao ethered

>>750563372
i keep forgetting about parrying entirely and i think my experience is improved by it

>>750554469
It is
Not as good as jap cv but that’s mainly due to middling aesthetics and overuse of spike hallways
But the core is good
There truly isn’t a bad cv game
Even lords of shadow has some KINO moments
Even judgment is jank kino
Even 64 is fun
Cv is a good franchise
Nigger

>>750564126
TOP KEK!

I'm surprised Konami never tried to "soulslike" this series...

>>750567527
They still might.

>>750554469
i had fun

>>750567527
there's a rumor of a 3d-vania in the pipeline

>>750564126
kek :')

>>750554469
the catherdral music was awful

>>750562753
True loling at all the tards replies.

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OH NO
ROSEBROS
NOT LIKE THIS
THEY SAID WE WOULD OVERTAKEN BLOODSTAINED NUMBERS
THAT'S NOT EVEN GOT THE CASTLEVANIA NAAAAAAME
AAAAAAIIIIIIEEEEE
I'M GOING INSANEEEE
HELP ME HAZBIN HOTEL SUCCUBUSSSSSS

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>>750570987 >>750571673 >>750579373

>>750554469
It was awesome!

>>750562753
This is true, actually. In a classicvania, every step mattered, and you were punished for mistiming or misjudging a jump. Same for C64. Classicvania sometimes gave you leaps of faith, or jumps or decisions you had to make based on inference and logic, rather than seeing your next move clearly. Same for C64.

LoD was dumbed down for the casuals that would eventually become IGAvania babbies

>>750557998
thats the problem with the game. they made trevor a bara but then they made his daughter an ugly tranny coded character.

>>750569430
>loved the callbacks to the show
WE really need to remove the 19th amendment.

>>750554469
10 hours in and i'm forcing myself to play it cause i already bought it but it feels super boring, i don't like the art style, dialogues are dumb and cliche af, combat feels scripted, platforming is unforgiving at times and dumbed down at others. Also, backtracking when you have no fast travel is tedious af
Not that is BAD, but mediocre and generic, like a 6/10

>>750571047
>combat feels scripted
what?

>>750569497
>retard-kun samefagging his retarded takes again
top kek

there were callbacks to the netflix show?

>>750564126
KEK! You win the internet

>>750567138
I think the reason I like the bosses in BC is because I forgot parrying was a mechanic after I finished Jean's work of mercy.

>>750571235
nah

>>750569497
It makes C54 stand out among 3D platformers, because devs continually made the actual platforming more forgiving. Banjo Kazooie, Rayman, Mario Sunshine, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank etc. all gave concessions to the jumps and to the landing by letting the player readjust in mid air or hover before landing. In CV64 you have to commit to your jump and the only concession given is the gravity of the ledge grab. Though that actually gets used against the player in Duel Tower.

>>750564558
>in that high-room with all of the evil mirrors just by paying attention
One of the hint things you find basically tells you that the right mirror is in a room with a bunch of the evil shades, it's the only one in that room without a shade in it, I didn't even pay attention to where the reflections pointed.

>>750569430
>constantly getting lost in this genre
Nigga open your fucking map. Only an excuse in the mirror place.

>>750564126
BTFO kek

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>>750554469
i really wanted to like it, i went into it nearly blind and sadly refunded it, it's not a completely terrible game or anything but there are just so many better options these days when it comes to castlemania, bloodstained, two castlevania collections filled to the brim with quality games, it's just not worth spending my time playing this just because it has the name "castlevania" in the title, not mad, not sad, just disappointed

I enjoyed it well enough. It felt to me like a weird mix of the classicvanias with the metroidvanias. Like a middle ground between Rondo of Blood and SoTN. Not really bad persay, but I will agree there was too many platforming challenges and they all felt very samey with the auto kill saws everywhere. Overall the game wasn't bad. The visuals and the voice acting was fantastic. Music was pretty good too. Gameplay wasn't horrid, was just servicable. Would definitely hope they improve on the next one.

>>750554469
I had a good time with it but I also like classicvania more than igavania, platforming and combat are my favorite

>>750564126
Bazinga

>>750571235
Yes

>>750571409
>>750574215
so which is it? yes or no?

>>750571235
I'm trying to think of literally any references and coming up blank
The obvious places to look would be Trevor and Sypha, but they don't talk or look like they're from the show

>>750574346
Carmilla's back story apparently. I didn't watch the show, I just heard its copied from it.

>>750574346
Graham McTavish voiced Dracula in both series and game

>>750574346
>>750574505
Alejandra Reynoso also voicing Sypha in both show and game

>>750574505
The voice actor is the same but the character itself is pretty different. Dracula in the game is pure evil and fully committed to his work, in the show it waffles constantly about whether we should hate him or feel bad for him and it decides to completely shit itself by making him not evil, just depressed and pathetic and commit suicide by Alucard. Then it resurrects him as a human fucking being who is happy and gets to live his life with - yeah frankly I can't stand show Drac, the show is just dogshit, I'm glad it's not canon

>>750554469
Very 6.5/10 game

So when are you intended to go to the clock tower? I did the library first then got distracted with everything other than the clock tower after I got air dash, now I've fought like 5 other bosses before going back and I'm guessing I've just way overleveled Isaac.

>>750554469
I’ve played all the top rated metroidvanias, and this one is fine but not quite in the upper echelon. The aesthetics, characters, and music aren’t really to my liking. Gameplay is “good”.

>>750574838
>So when are you intended to go to the clock tower?
at any point after beating Death. You can opt to do your full map clear once you beat Death, but there's a few useful things up there that come in handy for map clearing. If you beeline Isaac first, you get Hippogryph/Grav Boots from his arcana which gives you a full screen vertical jump which comes in handy for finding several secrets easier. It's also strong as fuark for combat. There's also the secret-hint ring past Isaac which makes finding them all way easier

When people say it doesn't feel like Castlevania they're talking about the combat design and the platforming. Castlevania titles are about precision. You have tools with defined consistent hit boxes and you're trying to control space and use your limited mobility efficiently. Enemies and platforming segments are never complicated but you have to make every attack and jump deliberately. The platforming sections are in effect, puzzle platformers where enemy patterns are what you're trying to solve.
Curse is very much a modern Metroidvania taking queues from the popular games right now. What it's asking from you is reaction and execution. Weapons have combos and combat is faster. The platforming and exploration is gated by trials where you're trying to move quickly through spikes and wheels using portrait jumps. The way you're meant to engage the games is different and in practice the game is a weaker Hollow Knight.

>>750575540
The best comparison I ever saw about what Belmont's Curse really is at heart is a 2d version of the PS2 games. Combo mechanics, RPG-lite mechanics that feel tacked on just to appeal to Igavania fans, and annoying platforming sections with loose controls that end up being a detriment to the overall game. Fucking Lament...

>>750575072
>hippogryph
Oh, I'm definitely doing that next then. There's still a lot of map I can access, but after I got double jump I just guessed wrongly that Isaac must be story progression that doesn't give shit for movement.

>>750575758
Isaac's movement buff is disguised as an attack Arcana, but the start of that arcana activation is a hippogryph jump which you can cancel out of at any time. There's a few places around the map where this is extremely useful

>>750554469
I liked it allot. It wasn’t a Lost Crown but it was solid. I do think the MC could have had better characterization. It felt like the opening was setting her up to get slapped around and really have to get over herself to get stronger. But that never happened. She wasn’t a girl boss but she just felt one note. I also didn’t like how she never had real back and forth a with any of the fallen foes. It felt like she would just randomly ignore them. I know some people are mad because this isn’t an Iga style game but I still think it’s solid.

>>750574431
Her backstory is Elizabeth Bathory's. Its the same one thats been referenced in all of the games as well. Nothing in the game relates to the anime at all thank god.

>>750562257
The fast travel was fucking aids and that is probably my biggest issue with the game. I don’t mind long backtracks if ultimately you create fast travel ports that make moving around a breeze. I’m playing Lodoss Wars Deedlit and it’s actually crazy mow much better than fast travel is in that game.

Also I agree with the weapon variety. I don’t know why the legendary game weapons were the only ones that had a gimmick attached.

>>750562357
>>750562403
IGAfags are so sensitive, holy shit.

>>750576152
The fast travel was fucking awful. Slowest and most obnoxious fast travel system I've ever seen. Conceptually not terrible, but in execution horrendous.

The legendary thing I get personally, since if you liked an effect on a weaker weapon you'd be gimping yourself. That said, I don't really understand why they even had different weapon levels. You literally could cut out every middle weapon and there would be no difference. Just have the weakest and the legendary, the stat upgrades of everything above one and below legendary felt pointless. ESPECIALLY since you can get the Vampire Killer SO early in the game. I wound up having a legendary weapon before I even got the third tier of any other weapon.

>>750576152
>The fast travel was fucking aids
Whoever at Evil Empire came up with the bright idea of having fast travel be tied to an optional dungeon and integrated into the plot so you can't even use the gimped version of it until halfway through the game needs to be smacked with a rolled up newspaper. Fast travel is a convenience for gamers to not lose their patience with backtracking in a metroidvania, not something you need to justify via storytelling.

>>750576352
You can actually use the fast travel as soon as you get Charon. It just sucks balls cause you're locked into that specific area.

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>>750576836 >>750577264 >>750577280

The discourse on whether or not BC is a real Vania is the same rot that plagues the Ninja Gaiden community. BC is basically my first real Vania because I never had access to the franchise. But absolutely nothing that I played in this game leads me to believe it’s not a Vania. Maybe it’s not like the OG’s or the Igas but CV’s identity is all over the place now. Can someone actually explain what makes this not a Vania who isn’t an irony poisoned troll larping as some OG?

>>750576610
>picrel
which Castlevania character is that? awooga?

>>750574431
You got bamboozled. People have been saying for weeks that the game doesn't borrow anything from netflix. Retards who don't know what "cinematography" means took one random article and ran with it.

>>750576610
Belmonts Curse is a perfectly fine Castlevania, subjectively a great one.

Anons will get mad it’s made by French Toasts instead of honorabru Japanese.

Anons will get mad you have to play as a girl.

Anons will get mad at the “lore” as if Belmonts haven’t been cucked in numerous games in the past as many decades.

Anons will get mad that the game isn’t gearslop and souls maxing like every Iga game.

My main criticism is the dialogue and English voices kind of suck. Unironically wish there was a French dub.

>>750576610
Theres a few things that set it apart from the series, but they're mostly gameplay and level design choices.

1. The focus on platforming challenges/instant death saw traps. Not really a thing or not really used as frequently as they are here. Feels like it takes heavy inspiration from Hollow Knight due to it.

2. Equipment and Loot Drops - Metroidvanias especially typically would have weapons, items, or even spells that'd drop from enemies. BC doesn't have any of that, and takes more from the classicvania approach of enemies are just obstacles and drop things which are mostly used immediately on touch.While there are different weapons and such, you only get a real difference outside of stats in the legendaries and theres less types of weapons than in other metroidvanias. That said, I do think the trinket system makes for more interesting choices as opposed to armor and equipment most times.

3. Movement and Progression- Metroidvanias usually have a few different movement techs or different abilities that allow you access to different areas. While BC does have SOME of that, it doesn't really have as much variety and seems more like call backs than anything.

4. Additional content - BC has none. There often would be other game modes, other playable characters, boss rush, etc.

This is all to say that its still a castlevania, it just is its own flavor of it, as opposed to strictly following the SoTN formula.

>>750577264
I don't give a shit about any of that. What I'm saying is that having spike rooms everywhere on top of a shitty soundtrack and a garbage fast travel system makes for quite a frustrating experience when you want to explore which is the point of these fucking games.

>>750576098
Her backstory is fucking Carmilla
Bathory is a different figure altogether (and is in Bloodlines iirc)
Carmilla was the inspo for the original Dracula novel
She’s also a notable lesbian in that story, hence why she gets all hot whenever Rose uses her spell

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>>750577490
Spike room doesn't work on Castlevania games I agree, it makes the game unplayable

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>>750577802

i like catacombs theme

>>750554469
It was 7/10, maybe 8/10 if you really like metroidvanias. There are unironically worse castlevania games than it.

>>750577704
hall of mirrors was a sleeper favorite of mine, the subtle melanchonic harmonies reflecting Rose chasing after an illusion of her mother

>>750577280
NTA but why does everyone keep saying HK's platforming is bad? The only hard part I recall in that game was White Palace, even Silksong had more tough platforming sections (quantity).
BC's isn't even on SS's tier of difficult platforming imo.

>>750577696
Everywhere, anon, words are important, don't do like your mom did with swallowing and don't skip them.

>>750576351
That's just standard progression. Same as how in AoS you find several tiers of weapons throughout the game (ie. Sword, lance, dagger) that are just bigger numbers. But the thing is that SotN has an elemental and status system too so weapons *feel* like they have more variety even if you just end up using claim solas on everything lmao

>>750577893
just say you got filtered anon, it's ok, skill issue isn't a problem nowdays, even your mom gave birth to you

>>750577696
That room is a puzzle and not a platforming challenge. Just saying.

>>750578024
tell that to the speedrunners lmao

Why do people compare this game to HK? Other than high-ish difficulty they are completely different.

>>750578115
>high-ish difficulty
base HK isn't even that hard imo, only a couple of bosses and DLC bosses

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I would play it if it had the old artstyle + spritework, looks too gay

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>>750578631

Rose looks cute here

>>750577847
People are godawful at games and blame the game and devs for not making a game that hands them progress. /v/ is in no way an exception. Castlevania hasn't hard a truly difficult game in decades with OoE being considered peak difficulty when it's pretty midtier difficulty compared to even something like Rabi-Ribi. It's still easier than SCIV, which was easier than every CV around it. People have to consider this when reading people's gripes with BC. A lot of it is people hating friction in modern games. I played a lot of N+, so it's easy for me to look at the different rooms as new challenges. There are also shortcuts in 95% of the platforming rooms. People just don't want a Castlevania game to challenge them.

>>750578115
It’s clearly ripping off Zelda.

It's really lame how most of those 2D indie games nowadays all feel like copies of the same template.

>>750578364
I was watching aurateur (big mario kaizo guy) play and he was running around mashing and dying to regular enemies like the armor knights and spear guys. Then he starts raging and saying the same sucks and is too hard. The game has its flaws, but most complaints I see are from absolutely braindead haters who want a braindead game like SotN they can breeze yhrough.

>>750578541
Forgot to say he was 6 hours into the game and still didn't know you could parry or how to combo with the dual blades so he was spamming the weak 2 hit attack lmao.

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>>750578359
She's in her pretty girl era here.

>>750578610
>how to combo with the dual blades
I mean it is kinda poorly explained though.

>>750578691
The game has a general problem with that, but if you read the card and see the flashing light it is intuitive. Moreso than the bruaner work of mercy at least where the text is straight up wrong.

>>750578790
Which could've been solved with a small on repeat example video like a lot of games do when you get new moves.

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>>750578691
they should've put "when you see glow" instead of "when attack hits"

>>750578846
Agreed. Again still no excuse for being that far into the game and not figuring out. If I was as stupid I'd just switch to a different weapon since it's clear you do less dps than every other weapon with the basic attack.

>>750578417
Well it’s the 26th main game in a franchise in a well-trodden genre that its franchise heavily influenced.

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>>750579276

>Rondo Of Blood
>Dracula X Chronicles
Do i play the OG or the Remake? Any major differences?

>>750562727

He's referring to the leveling up to increase your attack/defense by one every level.

I thought it was simple but effective way for the no skill plebs to grind. It's time consuming to hit max level but it makes the fighters a little easier.

>>750579150
X chronicles is dogshit 2.5d not beautiful sprites

>>750578790
Which one? I haven't worked on Brauner because his tarot feels like shit compared to the frost, fist, and cross.

>>750556320
Nobody still here is old enough to know what that is.

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>>750578364

>People just don't want a Castlevania game to challenge them.

>>750579276
The original Rondo is on that collection

>>750579227
It makes them noticeably easier since you take less damage if you level grind. It's not as egregious as sotn where you start taking 1 damage from everything, but it is a noticeable difference.

>>750569430
Does this retarded slampig have an of?

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>>750579368

Kids today are stupid, lazy and entitled.

But they're also most of the vidya market so the developers need a backdoor for the plebs to beat the game or they won't buy more vidya.

It's a necessary evil.

>>750579368
I'd say it's most noticeable after clearing both Carmilla and Talos. You're pretty much 1 or 2-shotting everything until Notre Dame.

>>750579373

The free COVID bux and money laundering days on OnlyFans are over, senpai.

The whores are abandoning ship for churches to find a nice safe, beta provider to marry.

>>750579284
Nevermind I am retarded that one makes sense.

>>750579368
Actually by level 50 when I went back to the first paris area enemies do like 1 damage. Although I don't recall if I had on any defense relics at the time.

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>>750580374 >>750580379 >>750580817 >>750581435

Are there actually people that find this game difficult? I found it easy as fuck. How bad are you fags at video games?

>>750580271

Starts off 'tough' but then gets much easier via tarots, charms and weapons.

Alucard's sword makes beating Super Joan ezmode.

>>750580271
I’ve died to the bosses but once you figure out the attacks they aren’t actually difficult.

>>750580271
Some of the late game gauntlets are pretty tough with the environmental hazards. The poison room in Paris and the laser beam room in either Clock Tower or Notre Dame

>>750578610
>crutched on greatsword since I found one
>only swapped to legendary whip until I found legendary greatsword
Are the dual blades actually good? The charge time on greatsword is negligible and it stuns or one shots almost every normal enemy in the mid and late game so I haven't touched anything else in forever.

>>750580271
IMO the only hard bosses are Issac, Joan V2, Mammon and Death.

By the time you get to Dracula you’re already giga swole.

>>750580374
Kek I got blown out using SnS and beat her with the ferryman tarot and tier-3 whip.

>>750554469
It's a mid-tier modern metroidvania that wouldn't get a second glance if it didn't have Castlevania stapled to its forehead.

>>750563307
This guy was filtering until I realized there's no contact damage in the game and you can spam slide into him to go past him and whack his anus constantly

>>750554572
SPBP

>>750562661
Also there's wall meat. There hasn't been this much wall meat in a Castlevania since Rondo of Blood.

>>750562661
When people say it doesn't feel like castlevania they really mean Igavania games, particularly sotn. They want simple platforming, one dimensional combat, rigid movement, and rpg grinding. And honestly I enjoy that in moderation too, but they really should just make a bloodstained thread and fuck off.

>>750562661
It's more that it feels like a fairly generic indie metroidvania. It doesn't bring anything particularly new or interesting to the series.

>>750581435
I died the most to isaac, with death you just have to be strategic with his beam attack, and I scripted joan by running away from her and crouching which made her do the same punishable attack that always missed, Isaac's cross aoe really fucked me up, thats all I payed attention to by the end of the fight

>>750581598
Isn't made by the Dead Cells guys? Pretty mid game overall.

>>750554469
I mean, it was pretty dang good

>>750564126
KEK

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>>750554469
6/10 forgettable game
>>750556320
BASED Creaking CHAD

>>750554469
true, it's a shame. there is a really good game in there, but it's buried under too much precision platforming and the worst fast travel mechanics ever seen in a video game
if it weren't for the sliders, I wouldn't even have finished the game
6/10

>>750554469
It's a decent 2D adventure game propped up by the fact everyone wanted a new castlevania. It would have been sloshed to the side as a decent game no one played if it didn't have CASTLEVANIA slapped on it. It doesn't particularly play like any other Castlevania moreso mimicking Hollow Knight and Dark souls

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>>750564569
I recommend playing around with the difficulty options. After doing the Notre-Dame challenges i went back to Dracula with 0.8 damage dealt and 1.5 damage taken and he's actually pretty tough

>>750572981
Completely understandable negative take on the game

>>750582214
It doesn't feel like Classicvania either. Those games have purposely far less character control and action, focusing much more on tight timing and pattern memorization. You committed your jumps for example. There's videos of people just standing in one place and beating the games endgame bosses in this. It doesn't feel like either forms of Castlevania. They were going for a mix, and I think with time people will see that this mix isn't that great

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>>750586272 >>750586331

"Hard" game.

Also if the anon that recommended me SotN Reawakened is here, thanks for the recommandation, I'm having a blast.

>>750563307
You are supposed to slide under him and hit the crosses

>>750586118
Why is Talos so fucking overpowered anyway?

>>750586118
You'd be surprised how many people whining that the game is "too hard".

>>750586331
Oh, I'm not surprised, most gamers are fucking shit these days.

>>750554469
Wildly enough I think this is like the redemption arc of Castlevania 2. It's still not good but it proved that Castlevania 2 could have been playable and liked by some