Why does friendslop get a bad rep? While it's true that “everything is better with friends“ these games are usually designed in a way that's a million times more enjoyable than queueing on some ASSFAGOTS or something similar. Why is it bad to design games meant to maximize the fun you can get from playing with your friends?
>>750542765sometimes, i wish i were normie enough and have many friends to play shity like this...
It's forced fun. You're supposed to fuck around in a serious game with a 5 stack of your friends in dota or something, then do silly experiments there. If the game has you all playing raccoons and pranking NPCs by design then it ruins the entire point
Well the name "friendship" gaining traction certainly didn't help.I guess the reason it became popular as a genre title is because these games commonly prioritize player interactions over complex or robust game systems. You make a relatively barebones experience and let the "with friends" part of the game do the real heavy lifting.I suppose we've come full circle from the times of World of Warcraft, Second Life, and all those other games that were well designed at their core but ultimately made to be social experiences first and foremost. Which, in my opinion, is a good thing. Would love to see these devs encourage more interaction with strangers but I think in 2026 everyone's in their own little walled garden and it's too late.
>>750543026meant friendslop obviously please forgive autocorrectPosted from my iPhone 11
>>750542765i don't have any fucking friends that's why i hate friendslop gamesFUCK YOU
>>750542765Is Deep Rock Galactic a friendslop?
Anyone gonna play finals week when it comes out? >>750542925A lot of people fail to have fun in comp games though. It can just be annoying if youre actually yrying to win
>>750544041Is it any good?
>>750542765Most of these are largely sandboxes full of toys where the amount of fun you have is directly proportionate to how fun your friends are to be around (make sure all your friends buy a copy for maximum fun!). It's the new wave of lazy design and naturally the Next Fest was loaded with them.
>>750542765I feel the problem was>oversaturation >nonexistent gameplay there are a few good ones with more thought put into them, I wouldn't call Peak or Big Walk slop
>>750543753No, the game is put well enough together that it's just a co-op game. Similarly to how L4D isn't friendslop.
>>750542765They became streamer bait.
>>750542870i dont have any friends to play them with so i have to pretend they are just bad games
>>750544771YOu have never played friendslop with a silent lobby
Yo is "content warning" any good?
>>750545269
having actual zero friends, like not even one or two good friends is weird af. i am a loner too but its good to bounce off ideas and random shit with another actual human being.why would someone have no friends at all?
>>750545957hell is other people, etc
>>750545957>These low-effort co-op games aren't shitty, you're just a weirdo!Ah, we're back to ol' reliable again.
>>750546174what? i did not even mention the games. some can be fun for like 1 day. i liked to play the forest and satisfactory with friends, these lasted a log time. most friendslop is good enough for a single night THOUGH
>>750542765>Why is it bad to design games meant to maximize the fun you can get from playing with your friends?If they are so fun then why are they abandoned within a week? I queue up l4d annually with my friends and its always a good time because it isn't just fun with friends, its also just a fun game.Friendslop games aren't fun, they just provide a cheap novelty
>>750542765i would rather just sit with my friends in voice chat instead of playing garbage like how to fish
>>750544041then play coop PVE games like l4d2, helldivers, deep rock, payday 2.
the implication is that the games aren't really good in themselves the way other co-op games would be and are only salvaged by the fun your friends bring to them
>>750547016I split them up like that, some are fun enough to play on my own while others are more enjoyable with a crowd
I enjoy friendslops, I just wish my gay ass friends would play them with me. I have two kids and a full time job and it's still me trying to get them to play anything
>>750543026Ah, the days of just getting into a random TF2 lobby or LFD2. I missed out on L4D and the orange box. Mother fucking Day of Defeat. A hard days work met with a scotch and a blue. Man, things sucked hard back then, but at least gaming was pretty peak. Wrath of the Lich King.
>>750542765Because making a good SP game takes more skill, something devs need to learn.
I'm watching Finals Week stream and gameplay looks half decent, but the low effort vibe and general lack of polish is very concerning.
>>750542765Lethal Company is an excellent game even while playing solo.
Did you guys pick up anything good recently?
>>750551709the Meltdown Crew demo is alright. The best part about friendslop demos is that they're free.>>750550958Are there any other friendslops that are good singleplayer besides Lethal and Peak? I hear Repo is way too tough alone.
>>750551709Got some great demos to shill
>>750552067Schedule 1
>>750554189I thought that game was exclusively singleplayer
Insert word slop. Why are zoomies like this?
>>750542765Most of them being pump and dump games from the devs is why they're slop. REPO and Peak are all right in terms of content, but Lethal Company getting abandoned by the dev midway through development for him to start some other project will always burn me. That faggot hasn't even added a new interior since the fucking mines when modders have been able to shit out more interesting content than he can half ass.
>>750552067There's a game similar to Repo and Lethal Company where you get dropped into a zone/area then have to scrounge around for stuff. You have a sanity meter that's constantly falling and there's creatures that roam around and sap it faster but don't outright kill you. You only die when your sanity runs out. The two things I like about it are the environmental interaction (pull switches/levers and stuff around the map happens), and that one of the creatures can record your voice and use it to try and fool you and your friends and will also look like one of you, so you're not sure if it's a mimic or a real person. I've never played it yet so I don't know how fun it is solo, but it looks really interesting. I can't even remember the name, but it looks kind of like Lethal Company but with better/clearer graphics and everyone is wearing a gas mask and environmnet suit. I watched Hololive vtubers play it (That's also how I found out about Lethal Company). It looks really hilarious with friends, but I can imagine it would be terrifying to play alone, much like Lethal Company. I think a bunch of the vtubers played it earlier this year, I'll see if I can find it.
>>750542765Gen X forced everyone to stay inside for 2 years and ruins hardware prices, then acts surprised when Gen Z fucking loves $10 4-player co-op games with low system requirements
>>750545957You dont start out with no friends. It gradually just happens as you get older and all of your friends move away, stop logging in, get married or die etc one by one. In your 20s you'll have 6 or 7 people on comms together 5 nights a week. By the time you turn 40 you'll need to plan 2 weeks in advance to chat to a single friend on comms for half an hour.
It's actually bad both for players and developers to push out unpolished lazily made genre clones to get parasitized by youtumors.It fails to create games with any sort of cohesive design or longevity and/or creates a lot more work with little return for the developer to constantly make a minutia of changes and pay youtumors to continue to promote the game rather than actually improving it.This is a greater problem with the industry as a whole shifting to attempting to scam people into buying products they'll forget and/or be unable to pursue refunds for, rather than legitimate business within the "attention economy".
>>750544771I mean, if the only way to enjoy them is bringing your own fun in the form of funny friends could you really consider the game "good"?
>>750557143>>750552067Found it. The game is called MIMESIS. It's similar to Lethal Company and Repo. Looks fun.
>>750557425
>>750557425>or die etc one by one>MMO duo buddy died from the flu>DayZ duo buddy stopped logging in, later heard he'd died in a car crash>Civ buddy died from a heart attack cuz he was a fat cunt.
>>750552067Why do all these friendslop games always have such ugly, cartoony artstyle?
>>750557664Because >indie devs dont want to fuck around trying to make a game look nice when their time is better spent on content/gameplay>needs to appeal to women >easily recognisable characters for marketing (youtube thumbnails, twitch clips etc)
>>750557664>>750558129what? I thought you fags hated realism
>>750558696nta I don't like unnecessary realism look because most of that not effect to fun
Anyone down to play some Peak
>>750554189i wouldnt call Schedule 1 friendslop
>>750558967sure
>>750551709Invokyr and the cabin game are pretty fun. Coal duty and crack are also good
>>750542765>Why does friendslop get a bad rep?Because most losers browsing /v/ are friendless shitters.
>>750542870>only normies have friendswhat a shitty cope, but I guess it's par for the course with resident idiots
Peak LobbyRandom seed A416pWill start in 15 minutes regardless of players but feel free to latejoinKDUXLIsteam://joinlobby/3527290/109775242717130594/76561198196432370
>>750542765>Why is it bad to design games meant to maximize the fun you can get from playing with your friends?Most of these games follow a similar formula and are as deep as a puddle so any not casual player will figure out the meta and get bored by it within a few sessions. They're not built for longevity, just disposable entertainment, like getting on a carnival ride.
>>750542925My friends are all married alcoholics that play one game 2 nights a week. They see the artstyle and call it gay but I secretly want them to fuck me so I play along even though I'm super disappointed they didn't want to play my favorite boy bonda-bonding games
>>750543753DRG is actually probably more fun without friends because you'd waste time talking to your friends like normal instead of people just pinging stuff and automatically doing their jobs quickly and efficiently.
>>750561984Dude, I'm eating. You could have waited for me. Rude.
>>750561984gg boysWe ended up doing a 0.10x item mult run and died in Caldera due to a stabbing incident.
>>750564058>due to a stabbing incidentsomeone relaxed
>>750564091well, I don't see any purples on that pic
>>750542765Those plasticy low effort models. Terrible and low effort on purpose to show how little you care, because being passionate about anything will make you look cringe in front of the bros and you have to show everyone else how little you give a fuck. Irony poisoning.
>>750543026It's made for people who are afraid of being judged for sharing a game they actually love with their friends, so the easy solution is playing a game everyone knows it shit and they won't get judged for
>>750558696I couldnt give a shit if a friendslop game has fucking great graphics like Other Side or if it looks like crusty vomit in 16-colours like Lethal Company. The visual style has to be good is what matters.
>>750542765Ok but which friendslop is brave enough to have pantsu instead of spats this is important.
My friend convinced me to spend 15 bucks on Peak, which we played for a few hours before getting bored. I suggested we buy Valheim, which we put 100 hours in. I am the superior friend.
>>750564058Heey!! we agreed with pretending that lobby never happened!
>>750542765I don't play videogames with my friends.
>>750564058>Trusting M*s*nDeserved
>>750557664I don't know but I'm happy they're finally making games with styles that appeal to me
>>750542765It's low effort ai sloppa
I'll host a DamageSwap lobby in 1 hour or so.
Do you guys prefer playing with randos (maybe you guys are friends on Steam) or actual IRL friends?For the longest time, I've always felt that the friends I'm playing games with are committing their time to play games with me while they could be doing something else. It feels rather restrictive (even though it's just a hunch), whereas I feel complete freedom if I made a public lobby and let randos hop in.
>>750542765it's just a type of game that has no value on it's own and relies soley on the fact that you HAVE to make your own fun with your discord friends. Not to mention it turns a single, 7 to 8 dollar purchase into a 32 dolla purchase. You can't play the game alone, you NEED more people, so you convince 3 other guys to play it and boom, you sold 4 copies of the game.The only good friendslop games currently are PEAK and Big Walk. Peak can be played solo and it's a fun challenge that is made MORE fun by having more players. Big Walk hardly counts as friendslop because it's a coop puzzle game with a defined ending, unlike what most of these are which is just procedurally generated endless rougelikes where you always loose eventually.
>>750543753coop horde shooter which is the original friendslop, especially when they were all the rage in the early 2010s. But DRG is a fun and complete experience that can be played solo and with randos and it always provides a fun time.
>>750570857true ascent + rogue climb + green demon when?
>low effort shit biowaste is actually good if it's meant to be played with friends
>>750571161I don't like any of those mods so probably never, at least from me.
Finals Week...
>>750570914Similar feeling. Some IRL friends just dont have the WHIMSY needed for vidya shenanigans
DamageSwap LobbyAllergies are ONNights are slightly longerA6 16pStarting in 15 minutes regardless of playersKDHZFCsteam://joinlobby/3527290/109775242741596596/76561198196432370
>>750542765I want to play with random people and potentially MAKE friends. Friendslop is some fucked shit where you're supposed to only play with people you already know, I used to buy these games thinking the next one would be different but it always boils down to me getting kicked out of every session I join and it being a waste of money.
>>750573640>Friendslop is some fucked shit where you're supposed to only play with people you already know,Yeah, this is I hate tooI want casual match for those games
>370
>>750573640People are too sensitive online these days, can't handle a bit of joking around with strangers.
>>750573640Keep trying, making friends with some of these games can be pretty fun.
>>750574004
>>750542765It doesn't get a bad rep. A lot of the people who play these games are fags, though. Have you ever looked at one of the PEAK threads on here? It's awful. Worse than most /vg/ threads.
>>750542765Some friendslop is good. If anyone hates Escape Simulator 1/2 or Jackbox they're fucking gay.
>>750564058Nobody cares faggot
>>750570914You friendtrannies are mentally ill.
They arent really games. Friendslop is chore simulator because devs who make fps know they are talentless hacks. Garbage asset viewers with the mic stuck on.
>>750564058I care faggot
>>750577194>reading comprehension of a toddler
>>750542765Because they are shallow games that you will play maybe once or twice and never touch again.
>>750542765competitive tranny players can't troon out in coop games and have quick dopamine hits over beating little children (because they are friendless trannies and suck at everything IRL)
Does has anyone made a cum together app game for bros who are not gay but just wanna jerk it together like where you go into a porn theater with other dudes and all sit in the theater with ur dick out and seeIf anyone wants to give u a stroke or whatever?
i'll host a lobby soonprobably some dumb shit like all cannons or whatever
>>750579469just use discord
>>750573467gg boys we swapped
>>750545269Its shallow. Most tech demo of all the friendslop games i've played. Its fun but not worth the price. And figuring out the mechanics ruins it.
>New major content update for REPOOh shit that game's still around?
it's cannon time12 players, 1.5 loot, get a cannon every 10 secondsDDRHZFsteam://joinlobby/3527290/109775242758635885/76561198018285433
>>750581308oh and like ascent 4 or something
>>750581308More cannons in that pic than in every single cannon lobby combined
>>750581613well i fixed it now, get in here mason
>>750542765>Why does friendslop get a bad rep?because it's popular and anything popular gets hated on you retard.>Why is it bad to design games meant to maximize the fun you can get from playing with your friends?The short answer is>It's not bad to design a game to be friendslopThe long answer is >Choosing to make a game friendslop from the onset means it is greatly diminished in what it could be. It's severely lacking any staying power and missing out on the solo market entirely. With only a bit more effort and care almost all friendslop games could just be great co-op games that are worth playing for long periods of time. also ur gay.
>>750542765If I can sell you your friends, why would I put effort into anything?i'd probably laugh at you, and then loop you in with your other half. The blue haired individuals who love similar experiences. Are you guys starting to get it yet?
>>7505813086/12, starting in five minutes
>>750581856What's wrong with staying up all night as a grown ass man chatting with my boyfriends I MEAN GUY FRIENDS FUCK
AI will be able to make the ultimate friendslop game and we will finally be free from Swedish devs
>>7505813087/12starting now
my frames
real dogshit lobby hours
I boughted Finals Week.
>>750581308>>750582386And they all died
>>750542870Me too anon
>>750542765I've enjoyed a few good ones with friends. They're cheap, easy to pick up, quick to put down, and replayable over a long period of time. I see no downsides. Sometimes I only have 1-2 hours to play in a day, or a friend does, so we play something fun.
>>750582386>>750581308>>750580430>>750573467>>750564058>>750561984MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODSSTEALTH PEAK GENERAL MOOOOOOOOODS
>>750542765Is this better than barotrauma?https://store.steampowered.com/app/4096830/SONAR_Submarine_Operators_Not_Actually_Ready/
>>750581308we beeked despite losing like 6 scouts to frames
>>750581308we canon
>>750542765No nigger I don't want to spend 15$ for a shitty lethal company/peak ripoff that was probably vibecoded that we play once and then never touch again. I could put on The Three Kingdoms or youtube videos for free and get the same level of enjoyment with you talking shit about chinese soap operas and eunuchs.
>>750592526But sir, if AI can't vibecode games then there will be no one around to make video games anymore
>>750542765The concept of "friendslop" implies extremely casual and limited gameplay. It's designed for people wbo don't play games and just want to kill 30 minutes before going out together.Fall Guys is basically the platonic ideal of friendslop. You jump in together and do some quick simple minigames, then you don't play the game again for weeks or months or ever.There's nothing necessarily "wrong" with that, but it's Candy Crush/ Wordle tier gaming and not to be taken seriously as an actual multiplayer experience.
>>750542870Anon, join a public discord or two for your favorite games that you love. Lurk for a bit and make sure the humor isn't too racist for your bussy dialator and then just start typing in the general about what they are. Eventually you make friends. Just don't glomp onto people.You have to actually want to talk to them in general. Not just treat them as npcs to add to your friends list.
Friendslop games are just inherently cringe. Awesome multiplayer is meant to be the side mode of a proper game or something which is naturally social like Mario Party. Having a wacky game that is supposed to be played with voice chat and over discord and streaming is cringe
>>750595621>discordbut im not trans...
>REPO updateIs Repoman back yet?
>>750598029Never ever
Too many friendslops I can't keep up
shits dead yo
>>750602509Too busy playing games
just make dedicated weekend friendslop threads, wagies are working
>>750603406Might be a good idea.
>>750554189doesn't even fall into that category lmao
Playing with random strangers ended up being more fun than I expected. Maybe it varies on where you go to find lobbies or what game you're playing, but some people can be really chill.
>>750542765It is usually fomo low-effort garbage made to be played by YouTubers and Twitch Streamers.That’s not to say there aren’t good games. But the few good are overshadowed by the slop that YouTubers shill.
>>750542765Friendslop is kryptonite to friendless anime worshippers whose only friends are gacha whores
>discord furtroomer general #29495839017483929747894
>>750561984>370
>>7505552471. Schedule 1 is NOT Friendslop.2. Theirs is a multiplayer mode, where I guess you either work with or compete with your buddies to build a drug cartel.It would be nice if the next big update added an offline version of this, like say rival dealers/cartels controlled by AIs and if you don’t cement your operations and connections fast enough, they’ll gobble up all the demand for narcotics and leave you picking up trash.
I wanna play random slop demos with /v/
It's coming.
>>750609067anyone want a lobby?
>>750595621I did this for a few years, both discord and 4chan, and all this resulted in is one friend I can't even play with because he lives on the other side of the world and becoming a boogieman in one general and several discord servers
>>750595621Discord is fucking worthless, go meet people outside
>>750542765because would that game be fun without friends? if not, the game is shit
>>750542765because these games fucking suck at their core, that's why no one plays them on their own, it's just interactive stimulus for the voice chat to over react to, almost completely devoid of substance
>go outsideI'm good
>>750542765PEAK and Lethal Company, despite being the posterchildren for friendslop, actually have solid gameplay loops that are fun even if youre playing with randoms onlineFriendslop has a bad rap because its the new streamerbait game full of low-asset flips and basic boring gameplay trying to hold up because youre doing something with your friends and hope it goes viral
>No lobbyWe lost
Anyone else feel like games have gotten too focused on making sure the player is always having fun?No downtime, no getting lost, no figuring shit out for yourself. Every mechanic has to be explained, every inconvenience ironed out, every rough edge smoothed over.Sometimes the best parts of a game are the parts that initially piss you off. Getting filtered by something and coming back later when it finally clicks.I think we've confused accessibility with good game design.Maybe games need to be a little less enjoyable to actually be good.Anyway, what games do you think PEAKed because they refused to respect the player's time?
>>750615871the shared screen of Helldivers 1
>>750615871Path of Exile is good because of the different sources of friction. Without them you end up with diabloslop
>>750615871so you mean binding of isaac-ish friendslop game will be good? is it risk of rain2?
Does anyone in the year 2026 from the birth of our Lord Jesus Christ still have friends to play video games with?
>>750542765I want you to stop brainwashing my friends and force me into dropping $8 bucks every other week for a shallow game we'll get bored of after three sittings, instead of being able to play the cool and superior multiplayer games I like.
lobby doko
reminder that one of the devs plays with us
>>750620191what are the fucking chances that they got all the color, accessory, eyes, and mouth correct? that shit is disturbing
>>750555298It's like a more sanitized version of suffixing -shit on the end of everything.
>>750620191The Dev that died to a waterfall, by the way
>>750621014in PEAK, right?
>>750621093Yes
>>750620191Makes sense, Jill makes mods after all
>>750615871>what games do you think PEAKed because they refused to respect the player's time?Lethal company. It doesn't respect the players time in the slightest and yet it was the seed most other friendslop sprouted from.
Okay, you can host now.
I'll host later.
>>750542765>Friend tells me to buy a game so we can play it together>We play it exactly once, then he moves to next fomo slop.Money well spent.
>>750542765>everything is better with friendsI hate how this has been twisted by spoids.There's a distinct difference between when something is "fun with friends" and is "fodder for fun with friends." When it's more fun with people you know because it's inherently a multiplayer and somewhat social game, and when it's fun with people you know because it's just a vehicle for you personally to riff on it together.Actual friendslop would be something like "Skibidi Chained in the Backrooms Together," not something like Peak and such that actually have multiplayer mechanics and what notSpeaking of, fucking behead the spoids like this >>750613494 that play the games alone and then think they can talk about the actual intended experience. THERE ARE RAW MECHANICS IN THESE GAMES YOU CANNOT DO SOLO. THAT IS WHY PEOPLE DON'T PLAY THEM SOLO. YOU ARE NOT ACTUALLY PLAYING THE GAME IF YOU ARE PLAYING IT BY YOURSELF.BITCHING ABOUT THE STATE OF THE GAME IN SOLO AND DEMANDING A SOLO MODE IS AS RETARDED AS THE FAGS WHO DEMAND CO-OP IN EVERYTHING AND BITCH ABOUT BALANCE WHEN PLAYING WITH WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE AFTER MODDING IT IN. PLAYING THE UNINTENDED WAY WITH THE WRONG NUMBER OF PEOPLE CUTS BOTH WAYS
Tried content warningIt was bad?I didnt really get itThe guys loved it, but im not into it
>>750545957Eventually you learn to hate the eccentricities of the common man
>>750542765>ASSFAGOTSWhat is that? Who made this forced meme and thought they would sidestep the Millhouse treatment?
>>750542765>fun playing with your friendsThat's every game.Friendslop is just streamer fotm designed that being watched on twitch performed by a semi professional clown gives the impression that it's fun with your friend.But it isn't.
Anyone tried this, is it any good? its free.https://store.steampowered.com/app/3376480/Delivery_Beyond/
>>750629514>>750542765Also why arent you spelling it with two G's? Are you a fucking bot who can't sayvASSFAGGOTNIGGER? Yeah you are. Only bots are incapable of using slurs.Clean it up jannies OP is a bot.
>>750542765>instead of making "a" game fun>they make a game requires other "players" to be fun>so these fucks can sell more copiesShit game design t b q h f a m a l a m Read this one more time, fucking friend slop devs.
>>750629572>A chaotic online co-op game for up to 5 players (or 15 if you really want to)! More games should add an option to increase the player count beyond what it was designed for. Just give a warning when you toggle it on so retards don't start complaining when the game breaks.
>>750542765Because it excludes every loner who literally only plays video games as their lifestyle because it's an escape from friendships and social comparison that pains them IRL.
OP is a fucking bot MODS
>>750629572I tried, and it's fun and nice musicI couldn't proceed after the train level btw
>>750629662>>they make a game requires other "players" to be funSo all online shooters are friendslop, since shooting bots isn't fun?
These games chip away at peoples willingness to actually play games together.Every time you make a group of people buy some puddle deep shit that is barely held together by a marketing gimmick that gets dropped after a day the less likely are they going to pull up for future games.
I wish for more co-op AAA titles
Idk it'll be good or not. I hope the new serious sam coop would be fun
>>750629514Aeons of Strife Style Fortress Attack Game Going On Two Sides
>>750630229Nah, not really.People are already split into two campsA) Just about willing to play anything and everythingB) Autismo that only plays the one thing, or otherwise a small handfulAnd it's blatant that you're in camp B due to how you talk about these games while clearly never actually playing them, and have the autismo symptoms of projecting your stance onto other people
>>750632086nope
it's friday nightwhere's by game lobby
>Finals Week also does the room code crapdid they REALLY ape peak's backend? holy kek
>>750633902I can host in like 30 mins.
>>750633902never
A6 lobbyNights are a bit longerCaldera lava never lowersStarting in 15 minutes regardless of playersKCJRMMsteam://joinlobby/3527290/109775242854067178/76561198196432370
>>750542765Because of friendless people. I am friendless, but I don't ruin it for everybody else.
>>750636959>370
/v/eak troop...Has been lost to the island
>>750636959still going? or almost finished?
>>750542765Anons don't often have friends.
>>750639484We're about to start Alpine.
>>750542870yeah...
>>750636959gg boys we peaked
>>750542765It's just a normalfag thing. I don't hate those games or the people that play them. I do get annoyed when people ask me to play them. I'd much rather be doing my military simulator or strat game shit.
you know what's friendslopfishing56KTLH