So what's next for Gears of Overbudget?
probably death at this point
>>750541579Well deserved Mass layoffs for the idiots responsible for this subhuman
>>750541797>>750542145Eh, as Unattractive girl bosses go, Mags borders on almost totable. She's less annoying then Katt that's for sure unfortunately she's also less fuckable
>>750541579Do we really need more? It's the same game every time but worse after 3.
>>750541579Series is going to be put on ice for a while, same for Halo.I don't believe Activision studio's are really going to bother with Halo when COD is so profitable and they want to keep pumping out COD content yearly.
>>750542145can't you go find another hobby to politically grand stand about? go fight feminism in kites or something
>>750542520>Series is going to be put on ice for a while, same for HaloHonestly probably for the best. And as flawed as E-Day was, it's still a better send off than 4 and 5.
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>>750542348This was already a last gasp of air for a dying franchise so "decent" isn't going to save it much less recoup the losses
>>750542707One thing I noticed with the woke discloser is I tend to treat that garbage like a band lineup for a gig, in that said gig is only bad if the garbage bands match or outnumber the good ones. The grifters meanwhile treat woke like Piss on a Pie, in that even if the pie is an award winning dish, the piss makes the pie inedible. I'm not saying the latter is never accurate, but with videogames it's usually better to judge by the former.
>>750543034>This was already a last gasp of air for a dying franchiseDude, the fucking Xbox brand is dying as a whole. You can thank more than a decade of mismanagement and lack of exclucives for that
I hope we get an E-Day trilogy instead of Gears 6. The story ended with 3 and didn't need more sequels.E-Day was very good despite some bad gameplay omissions (like lancer dueling, grenade planting and human shields). All the woke shit was blown completely out of proportion.They just need to add a bit more enemy variety to horde mode and put a classic mode in where all 12 players are pitted together instead of doing 4 player skirmishes around each other.
>>750541579They're going to either give it to Infinity Ward or license the IP. For sure some heads are going to roll, and that's a good thing!
>>750541579What else?Layoffs.
>>750543502I really don't want an E-day trilogy. Judgement is literally 6 weeks after E-day. Why would anyone care what happens in between those times?We already know Reyes, Mags, Zander, and any other "important" character in E-day dies because these character don't exist in any other Gears game nor lore. Its like what Rockstar did with RDR2 introducing Arthur. Knew he was gonna die soon as the game started.I'd rather they retcon 4 and 5 and never make a Pendulum wars game. It will look like a bad Warhammer ripoff and Gears without Locust doesn't work.
>>750542348>Eh, as Unattractive girl bosses go, Mags borders on almost totable.Fucking kill yourself. Give an inch they take an arm, gtfo with this shit.
>>750544102Because E-Day and everything leading up to Marcus ending in the slammer is way more interesting to play through than a potential Gears 6.If not a trilogy, then at least make two E-Day games and have it end with "Jack, cut the door open" or whatever Dom says at the start of Gears 1.E-Day also has a lot of potential in terms of gameplay, it just needs a couple of small tweaks to be one of the best Gears ever made.They hit a great balance with maintaining the feel of a gears, but making it a faster pace. The campaign was so hectic because of the faster pace.Gears didn't need 4 and, it also certainly doesn't need a 6th.People also just want Marcus, Dom, Cole and the other guys. Yeah you know the new characters die, so what, people don't want them.
>>750544257Nice to know you are all or nothing. And I can easily dismiss any and all of your shit opinions regardless if they are occasionally valid since you are a bias retard.Also i'm not gonna pretend to hate something I don't just because a shitlib made it. I don't love Mag's, but she's far from insufferable.
>>750544303I think Gears' problem is they suck at making characters we care about. The series is just about Marcus, Dom, Cole and Baird because they can't make likable characters. Now they have the same issue as Halo where one cares about Halo if it isn't featuring Master Chief and Cortana.TBF the story of how Marcus ended up in jail could be told in a single cutscene. They don't have to drag that out and make a whole game out of it cause the Marcus and Dom story has been over for over a decade. Personally I say let it rest.The series following Adam Fenix's work and the future of the Locust sounds cooler to me.
>>750544796>I think Gears' problem is they suck at making characters we care aboutIt's because modern writers either rely on tropes too much or have certain characters be either be pet characters or blatant self inserts.
>>750544664beat the game recently. I didn't hate her as much as I thought I would, but she took a lot of the focus off of what was supposed to be the Marcus and Dom prequel story.It didn't feel organic. She was front and center because she was a lesbian black woman with an incurable disease, not because she was interesting or well written. By the end of the game all I felt was apathy, didn't care if she lived or died and I was tuning out most of her lines.The game wasn't made better by including her and they lost a lot of sales over it. I don't really care if a game is woke or not as long as it's good, but they severely missed the mark here.
>>750545270>The game wasn't made better by including her and they lost a lot of sales over itEven if Mags was a hot girl, her and to a lesser extent Lucas taking up Marcus and Dom's screen-time is a natural consequence of the game being 4 player co-op, so naturally the other two characters are gonna need some plot focus as well. The problem is, most players are either playing this game solo or with one friend cause getting 4 friends to play the same game past your teens is a nightmare, so you are wondering why half the screen time is dedicated to the equivalent of the Two toads in New Super Mario brothers Wii instead of Mario and Luigi. Also one of the toads is gay and the writers pet characters.
>>750541579I would absolutely buy a hypothetical MCC-style collection of every game up to Gears 5, why they haven't done that yet is beyond me.
>>750542348That woman producer of Gears of War 1-2 sums it all, it's basically you want to see Marcus & Dom bond and doing their things but all heroic things that should be done by PC (as Marcus) is taken over by Mags Carter because fuck the player.
>>750541579Unemployment.
>>750546345That makes me wonder. How many people actually played E-Day in 4 player co-op? Cause it's got to be a minority.
>>750544924>The most likable female in the game is the girl with a minigun holding it down and shit talking the Locust>Kill her off in a cutscene>Start getting used to the twins>Kill one offIt's like they know who the fans would like and purposely fuck us over.
>>7505427957 7 7 7 for fuck's sake 7 i don't care if the plane crashes over the pacific i will stay afloat with mommy myrrah booba
>>750546616Maybe in E-day 2, the living twin Manu will take Mags spot while she dies of rust lung or the breeding camps or whatever?Or maybe she will be replaced with a Transsexual, who knows.
Man my life is fucking hard! The economy is not doing well and my job is in danger! I have to work harder and harder for the same luxuries I used to enjoy!You know what I want to play? A video game where the main character is an ugly fucking disgusting cunt! I love looking at nasty fucking black women! I WANT to pay 70 dollars to play a bad movie game about black women!
>>750542795I hope they pull a 343 situation and fire everyone involved with The Coalition. E-Day just feels like they tried to pander to everyone and failed.The whole thing also feels like it was a tech demo they had to turn into a serviceable product. The whole thing feels completely built around the open world gimmick
>>750547697>I hope they pull a 343 situation and fire everyone involved with The CoalitionI say keep the coders, engine devs and the gameplay designers. Everyone else I can take or leave
>>750544796They can make new characters the fans care about but leads are not their strong suit. For example the newgen Carmines quickly became fan favorites, people are still mad that Lizzie died in Gears 5 and she was on of the more popular skins in MP, the unnamed COG gears are also always really popular. The most acceptable new leads TC has made were the Hivebuster squad but their thing is a DLC side story and not the main plot. And in this game while Mags and arguably Lucas were a miss, it alone has characters like the Twins, Sgt Valen or even Gill that are getting a ton of use in MP.
>>750546616I knew immediately one of the twins were dying because it was so predictable.I don't hate the game but just feel a deep sense of disappointment with it. Like they waited 7 years to release the game and it just isn't a good product. It feels like they took the aesthetics of the old games to play lip service to the old series' fans but changed something deep within the mechanics that I can't put my finger on to appeal to a different audience. This may sound weird but it feels like they built this game specifically to attract the PlayStation audience but since the game was pulled it can no longer do that. Nothing screams out "PlayStation" to me about the game but it feels like it was built for them and not the typical Xbox player.
>>750548840>It feels like they took the aesthetics of the old games to play lip service to the old series' fans but changed something deep within the mechanics that I can't put my finger on to appeal to a different audienceThe only real mechanical changes is the roadie run has been replaced with a regular run and you can now jump and climb shit now. Other than that it just plays like Gears.Oh yeah, and there's shit open world sections now
>>750541579McDonald's applications
>Mags invents the concept of throwing frags into e-holes>Unavoidable main quest to get Mags' medicine and have a mopey cutscene about her>Gotta have Mags take charge in the tunnels while Marcus loses his shit>Gotta have Mags be related to the stranded at the docks and get lots of narrative focus>Gotta have Mags be a former worker at the refinery and tell everyone what to doJesus Christ would the writer's just fuck off with all the Mags glazing? Reyes doesn't get anything by comparison. Frankly neither Mags nor Reyes should be in the game.
>>750542348i guess, but it was just a bad idea anyway, as gamer's tolerance for DEI garbage has gotten abysmal, and besides that, the series was already on death's door and they still went and took a dumb and completely unnecesary risk anyway
>>750548110They people that know Unreal Engine 5 are too valuable for Xbox as whole to let go since The Coaliton operates as the technical arm of Xbox and assists mutliple studios, those are going to be fine.
>>750544796>>750548210E-Day it's weird because every single character I actually found interesting aside from Reyes died in it. >>750549045I understand what you mean; functionally it has everything that it needs to be a good Gears game. However while actually playing it for me something feels off; the best way I can describe it is that it feels like an AI copy of a Gears game. It has a checklist of the features but actually playing it just feels off.
>>750549318Reyes technical know-how are unironically what saves the day and allows everyone to escape by getting access to radio contact with Anya and having a escape route, he's way more important than Mags but the writers were more subtle about it
>>750549318I didn't mind Reyes. I think his plot line about getting his buddies killed was pretty stupid and forced, but I enjoyed his progression over the course of the story.
>>750549615Reyes felt like the actual protagonist to me. Like Marcus is still the face and main character of the series but Reyes was the focus of the game. However this may be because I played through the campaign multiple times as him and many of the cutscenes change to be focused on the character you're playing.
Horde-Seige is a laggy mess that gets repetitive after 4 runs. Thats inexcusable after this many Gears games.Then theres no penalty for leaving and the game doesn't bother to match anyone new members to your squad either.>>750549615>eyes technical know-how are unironically what saves the dayFunny the more shit changes the more they stay the same. Someone just had to be the Baird of E-day, and its the fucking Cadet of all people.
>>750544303>"Jack, cut the door open"I honestly thought we might get introduced to the origin of those drones during E-day.
>>750549767>many of the cutscenes change to be focused on the character you're playing.Rubbish. Mags is always front and center.
>>750549695Reyes has that one moment and it's basically immediately overshadowed by Dom getting his one moment. Dom gets nothing outside of that.
>>750550259They existed before that. Frankly we should had a JACK following the squad so that any weapons we pick up could be modified immediately. I didn't like how you had to hold on to your modded weapons for fear of losing them. They should have let you apply your mods loadout to any version of the weapon you pick up.
This may come to a shock to you guys but most of the gears characters have all been pretty boring. The asian guy you start with in Gears 1, Tai in Gears 2 being a wet noodle of a character until he blows his head off, baird with marvel quips constantly, Cole train being retarded thinking hes still playing a football game, Dom "mai waifu" constantly, and Marcus just yells "A GIANT WORM" or some shit and i need to find muh father to move the plot
>>750550796I'm not saying they aren't. But thats the best the series ever had. The bars that low and they still can't beat it.
>>750548210>people are still mad that Lizzie died in Gears 5Yeah me
>>750546538I did 3 player coop through E-Day.We spent the entire game bitching about Mags being annoying and calling 60% of the shots instead of Marcus, preventing Reyes getting a helmet then learning a helmet saved her life, shit like that while they aren't 4chan users.We didn't really have a problem with Reyes, even if if radio communications happened to be 30% of the plot and he's the designated radio guy, he doesn't seem to have that much relevance outside of an objective jockey besides for the mountain radio station.
Captain Grey is pretty. But she's got nothing on literally any female in Gears 3
>>750546538I've played through once solo, once with two, and once full co-op. (My first play through was also 4 play co-op with random people.) 4 is clearly the best way to play it.
>>750551937She needs better skins asap
>>750551937There's no feminine woman in the game. The closest is Gettner and even she is pulling the generic "boss bitch" stereotype.
>>750549767It's because Mags has a lot of setup with zero pay off while Reyes has less set up but a clear progression
probably not gonna be another gears which sucks cause it's one of my favorite franchises, I bought a series x for e day
>>750543296>imagine being ok with ANY amount of piss on your piekys fag
>>750549615>Reyes technical know-how are unironically what saves the day and allows everyone to escape by getting access to radio contact with AnyaWell, no actually. The people in the city would have used the helicarrier to escape either way. Reyes just helps to establish a destination for the ship. They would have checked the big cities anyway without that info.
>>750552043The 4p co-op mandate really fucked this game. If they kept it to 2 player, then there wouldn't be a need for the 2 Poochie characters to accompany Marcus and Dom everywhere.
>>750542348>Eh...Always disregard opinions that start like this.
I hope we can at least get some kind of closure from a story DLC
>>750541579Mags solo game probably. They don't learn.
>>750549813>Horde-Seige is a laggy mess that gets repetitive after 4 runs.There needs to be more variety to the side objectives and more moments where you can interact with other squads. It's cool when another team gets the mission of taking a core to your rig and they act as reinforcements so maybe more of that. I saw the idea of a buyable flare gun that works as a way to request help from other squads with its own reward for accepting to help.
>>750555265There's nothing to close, genius. They head out to sea, Mags hopefully falls off the ship by accident, the end. If you want to know what actually happens, play OG trilogy. If you want to know what leads up to that, we already have the comics and Gears Tactics, which are both much better written than E-Day.>E-day retcons the chainsaw lancer to being invented on day 1FUCK OFF!
>>750555785>we already have the comics and Gears TacticsGears Tactics is the worst written game in the series by far. E-Day sits above 4 and 5 too but that's not an impressive feat.
Is the game even good?
>>750542707>im trans and my head is up my own ass
>>750556623Good? No. The campaign is better than 4/5/Tactic/Judgement but worse than the main trilogy.Multiplayer is fairly awful. Horde Siege is shallow.
>>750556721>The campaign is better than 4/5/Tactic/Judgement but worse than the main trilogy.Okay, then I don't care.All they had to do was copy the first or second game with the overall tech they were using in 5, but I guess they couldn't manage it.
>>750556623It's fine, bit barebones
>>7505427953 or 8.
Marcus gets killed by a butch lesbian and Marcus's lesbian protege must avenge him so they yell at and beat each other up violently but end up empathizing and becoming a lesbian couple who join the forces to kill men, the real enemyThey also go to the synagogue for some reason
>>750556531>Gears Tactics is the worst written gameAre you serious?
Which is better judgement or e day? I thought judgement was kind of fun
>>750560414Probably E-day from a gameplay point, but Judgement from a plot point. Is there any way to play Judgement on PC, btw?
Why did we never see the origin of curb stomping?
>>750541579>2/3 of the campaign spent on the horde siege map>somehow this still cost several hundred millionsWhere the fuck was the money spent on?
>>750541579A Nortubel crossover
TEARS of War
>>750541579>every gears game where cliffyb wasnt the lead has been a massive flop and completely shithow did he do it?
>>750563394500 Million is just what it cost to run The Coalition from 2019 to 2026, E:Day is a fraction of that, maybe 100 to 150 million because they didn't start to work on E:Day after Gears 5, I recall they had two cancelled games before, unrelated to Gears so maybe those just were tech demos. They also spent a lot of time helping other studios, helping 343i with Halo:Infinite/Halo CE alone might have been an easy 50 - 100 million.
>>750563498He's basically gay and wanted to make a game about buff dudes doing manly soldier shit. He's afraid to explain this and so the new devs just don't get it.
>>750541579Currently playing e-day on insane and gotten to act 3. Does Mags die in the campaign? I really hope so but I have a nervous feeling it won't fucking happen and insteas Lucas will do a Carmine.
>>7505427951 easy
>>750541579>gears finally has a chance to revive itself after a decade>tranny devs shove an ugly goblina dyke for brownie points>multiplayer has troon flags>somehow 500m budget
>>750564192If you're hoping Mags will eat shit or be forgotten about by the story in any way, you're in for some disappointment. I recommend installing a mod to turn Mags into Atriox. Add the droid voice lines replacer afterwards if you want to remove her voice as well.
>>750542145Boy I need an update.
