>15 years>still unchallenged how did Tod do it?
OP is challenged (mentally)
>>750541429It's the best Elder Scrolls game other than Oblivion and one of the best RPGs of all time
Creation Engine has a genuinely unique architecture that's much more similar to a management sim or strategy game than a conventional action-adventure title. Basically the backend behaves like a giant database and that's why their games are so persistent and moddable, virtually anything you interact with in the game is edited some underlying data record. By that same token, extending the game via mods is straightforward because you just need to overwrite some select data records (which is how their own DLCs work). In fact many of Bethesda's bugs are exactly what you'd expect of this architecture. Lag from save file bloat (too many data overwrites on load) or NPC scripts hanging (too many processes trying to read/write to the same record).
>>750541429this but unironicallyno other open world walking simulator comes remotely close
>>750541429Todd did all the programming and artwork himself?
>>750541646>It's the best Elder Scrolls gamenot even close> other than Oblivionliterally the worst 3d oneshit taste
>>750541429The musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOxOJ1Zp9Yghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPgZFgOvJDE
>>750541429Kingdom come deliverance (1&2)Tainted Grail fall of AvelonElden RingEnshroudedall contenders for best open world arpg. all arguably better than skyrim in some way. Skyrim is not the clear cut winner anymore, If the next scrolls game doesnt hit a home run then elder scrolls will take the mantle of being ubisoft tier.
>>750541429The industry is filled with retards that don't realize there's a point to dude bro game design.
I love how everybody predicted that tourists and newfags would praise this game later down the road and they were completely right.
>>750543159>It's the best Elder Scrolls gameIt is and it's not even close>other than Oblivionliterally the best 3d oneshit taste
>>750541429Fallout 3, Oblivion, and Skyrim are Bethesda's three magnum opuses genuinely
>>750543326oblivion has the worst exploration in the entire series. its all procedural slop. No reason not to simply farm 1 dungeon with a good layout over and over, just wait a bit for it to respawn then do it again.
>>750541429vidya peaked there
Skyrim>Worst magic in the series, >worst character building in the seriesOblivion>worst exploration in the series>worst level up system and level scaling in the seriesMorrowind>worst melee combat in the series (its dogshit in all the games so who cares)Morrowind is the clear winner. If you want good combat go play another series.
>>750543531True, Fallout 3 mogs all of these games
Wonder when we are going to get fallout 76 nostalgia threads
>>750543283Nope. Stop trying to stand out.
Boring combat, boring quests, shitty dialogue. The only fun part was playing as a thief.
>>750541429Humanity peaked here
>>750542183Conan Exiles is similar. All the data sheets are there for you to tweak or override with mods
>>750541429I just did a playthrough and did all dungeons/map locations. Its still a 7/10 game. There's a few well designed dungeons that are out of the way but its mostly a slog.
lizard titties
>>750545702Those things are hideous. They have a velociraptor heads.
>>750543283KCD games are too tedious. I love KCD1 but it's just not comfy despite having all the traits of a comfy game. Elden Ring is godawful. Tainted Gayle, the demo kind of sucked. Enshrouded looks interesting...None of them would have been possible without Skyrim though.
>>750546008>he wouldnt a raptor
Oblivion is still more memorable to me
>>750546418Early seventh gen games have a more hopeful vibe.
>>750543531Skyrim also has the worst quests in the series, though its world and music are beautiful
>>750543531Playing Morrowind is like reading the Bible.
>>750541429>TodYou mean modders
>>750541490he's just like me
Its weird that the snow elf vale section takes up a third of the dawnguard storyline.
>>750543237elder scrolls is fucked without soule
>>750543283please dilate holy shit are you ever a tranny
>>750541429Mods. Unironically. Take away the moding aspect and Skyrim is objectively dogshit to everything else
>>750543320>contrarians new this extremely well received game would have fans!how low IQ do you have to be to think this up and post it lol
>>750551174Yeah bro lets go play some Madden and CoD
>>750551293you tell him xister!
>>750542183That's why i laugh at retards who say they need to move off creation engine for elder scrolls 6. It wouldn't be elder scrolls without the creation engine, they just need to stop hiring dei troons and actually hire competent developers which it seems like Asha is forcing them to do given who got laid off.
>>750541429One of the most poorly designed videogames in all aspects.
>>750541646>other than Oblivion
>>750543531Morrowind is also butt ugly no matter how many mods you add into it and most quests in it are just fetch quest.
>>750543320why are you lying? if only we have archives of /v/ from 2011 i can prove your ass wrong
>>750546163>None of them would have been possible without Skyrim though.Skyrim wouldn't have been possible without shit like Pong and Zelda. Influence is cool, but it doesn't measure the scale, depth, or quality of a game.
>another thread where miserable anons hallucinate Skyrim not being a good and beloved gameIt is what it is, but your skin will always be brown.
>>750554602True
>>750551129Bro Skyrim is ass
>>750541429Unplayable dogshit, as was Oblivion before it.
>>750543283Aside from KCD 1 (haven't played kcd 2) everyone of them is dogshit. especially Elden Ring.
>howbasically there was zero indians or trannys in the skyrim dev team
>>750556659If it was so good and beloved then people wouldn't have modded Todd's vision out of the game. Modding is concession that the content you're changing is fucking SHIT and there's trillions of mods for le good and le beloved game.Retard.
Dark Messiah Might and Magic is going to have a community patch that opens it up, and makes it playable in the modern day, can't wait for that.
It was pretty good.. it was arright. Its no New Vegas...
>>750541646zoom zoom
>>750542987The dialogue, the music, the scenarios, you name it. He did it all by himself. Isn’t that impressive?
>>750543159I agree with you that it’s not the best TES but when you say not even close, that implies you think shit like Arena is better which is just retarded contrarianism because that game is ass
>>750546163>None of them would have been possible without Skyrim though.Nigga, Elder Scrolls has been around since the mid 90's, and at the time it was a mediocre clone of Ultima, with the gimmick of Daggerfall being the size of the map. Skyrim wasn't particularly groundbreaking in comparison to the rest of Bethesda's releases from Morrowind to Fallout 3. Skyrim and Fallout 4 are about when the formula started getting tired.
>>750541429>last game to release before we entered the kali yuga in 2012
>>750556957wrong. one of the greatest games of all time. right next to Fallout 4 and Starfield.
>>750541429I recall when the first trailer came out, everyone was super hyped, but I just didn't feel that it looked appealing at all.
>>750543531It's funny that hands down the best part of Skyrim was Solstheim, the part of Skyrim that was Morrowind.
>>750560190>2012the west entered the dark era of culture in the 50's by accepting this clown
>>750541646>other than Oblivionmega based
>>750541429By Bethesda literally not releasing anything else in the fantasy space during that entire decade and a half.You can't challenge yourself if you completely ignore it entirely.
>>750557449tainted grail has better player retention per sales than starfield and it came out at the same time. People are overall more happy with that random AA slavshit skyrim clone than todds magnum opus. Todd needs to buckle down.
>>750559163its not evenb close to as good as skyrim or morrowind imo. You could argue oblivion guild quests are good but the exploration and level scaling bring it down big time.
>>750543283Based enshrouded enjoyer
>>750541429>>15 years>>still unchallengedThis came out in 2014, thoughbeit.
>Starfield releases >gets mogged by Tainted Grail>TES VI releases>gets mogged by E.Y.E. Divine Cybermancy 2
>>750541429>15>still crashes frequently It's pretty insane how unstable it is despite the decade of rerelease and shit
>>750541646Based, though Skyrim itself is barely an RPG.
>>750551129>If you like video games you're a trannylol
https://youtu.be/IkyAOMR7t0U?si=owKXFKkpXVDXm6f0&t=239
>>750565804Starfield is by far one of the most successful and popular games this gen compared to tainted grail which is still unfinished.
>>750541429>open world game where the open world is the star of the show and not just boring "filler content" that you skip over It's that simple. Every other open world developer (except maybe Rockstar) gets this wrong. >>750558829>makes it playable in the modern dayI played it for the first time last year, the Steam version is totally playable with a few console commands.
>>750566410>which is still unfinishedAnd Starfield isn't?
>>750541646You must be young, retarded or both.
>>750541429The only good thing about it was Jeremy Soule and look what they did to him.
>>750541429Why can Bethesda literally not make large town locations? Like every fucking title to this day their locations are like 5ft long. Its got fuck all to do with engine limitations. What the actual fuck is their problem?
>>750566973Jeremy Soule scammed gamers and disappeared from shame. Not like anyone did anything to him
>>750567021Go be a jobless jew somewhere else
>>750541429modder herewithout the creation kit people would have forgotten skyrim within a month, there's still people modding morrowind currently
>>750541429There's far better games on the market, but at the end of the day, people still come back to Skyrim for one simple reason: modding.
>>750541429Lydia carries the game on her back>>750567012Because they are old foxes who knows that more isn't better, and people wants to interact.Avowed did what you said and look at the shitshow it became
>>750569949gay ass cuckart online combat
>>750572171I don't know what about this webm reminds you of SAO, but that's clearly Vergil's move from Devil May Cry at the end.
>>750572393i say it is SAO because as a DMCfag, a swordsinger would do better and in one shot.
>>750560190>someone saved my shitty picDamn, even then, still looks more comfy than every single video game that came after.
>>750572482I like to draw things out
>>750541429Skyrim is a simple game that's hard to topple.Mechanically, it's simple as fuck, nothing stands out. The problem is, if you try to replicate it then you'll be compared to it, any mechanic you didn't add will be used against you and if you manage to copy it perfectly, congratulations you've made a 15 year old game. You still don't win. You have to expand on it.On top of that, no matter how you expand on it, your world building needs to exceed it. The conversation needs to be "I can't wait for game 2" but what you'll get is "I hope TES 6 has X and Y from game 1", which isn't sustainable.By keeping the game simple mechanically, you can't really dethrone it.
I don't get the appeal, and apparently neither do skyrim fans, since they need 500+ mods to make the game good
>>750562072Nah, Elvis would had called all of this a faggotry of the highest scale.
>>750572078Midia is more like it.
>>750573140Maybe, if adult elvis appeared in this day. But if 10 years old elvis was growing up today, he would be the most annoying roblox playing tiktok dancing retarded theatre kid type of shit for brains streamer on the planet.
>>750541429Normalfags want to play an RPG without actually playing an RPG.
>>750541429Unchallenged at what? It's not even the best TES.
>>750541429Combat? Dogshit.Characters? Dogshit.Factions? Dogshit.Writing? Dogshit.Dungeons? Dogshit. Name 1(one) good aspect of it.
>>750576328Unchallenged at being the best open world RPG of all time
>>750578751The soundtrack
>>750578751Blackreach was good.
>>750578751Soundtrack, the world, some of the quest, vampire and werewolf transformation aaand that's it.
>>750541646Based and true. Retarded uncs and low IQ browns that don't get Bethesda games need not apply.
>>750578751It has a genuinely good open world, which is why it managed to be successful.
>>750554807>lying newfag says others are lyingGame was hated newfag, you are literally no different to a minecraft kid
>>750541429>Skyrim is bad in all aspects>People still keep buying it and bringing it up all these years laterMod the shit out of it, don't even play it and just post porn on /v/, argue over the civil war for the billionth time, bring it up every time a dog shit game comes out to insult itSay what you will but Todd has at least one win under his belt for his turd pushed out on 11/11/11 still being in the public consciousnessName me five other games from yester-year that didn't become a bad smell that won't go away like Skyrim did See you in the Serana simp thread
Skyrim isn't a real game, it's just a glorified game engine that you can slap 1000+ mods on to make it actually playable.It's the WRPG equivalent to Roblox.
>>750580075GTA SAPeople don't even go to 5. GTA clone comes out and it's straight to bringing up SA. CJ modded into everything. etc
>year 2026 AD>Still denying and crying about Skyrim being the best open world RPG ever made.it''s been 20+yeats unc. get over it.
The power of the Elder Scrolls comes from the Nine Divines. Magic is the only possible explanation.
>>750569652>>750569652speaking of https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58569>>750567012console limitations, modders have shown you can make large towns but muh console ram. When EVERY single npc has a routine/script and every single item is interactable that's a lot to load in memory.
>>750543531>>Worst magic in the series,This. Why the do magic builds suck in this game? I don't want to be a viking warrior in a "high fantasy" game.
>>750584581>buy Viking game>don’t want to be a VikingThis sounds like a you problem
>>750585219>Viking game>elder scrolls
>>750585219The Nords before Skyrim released had notable magic users. Skyrim simplifies the Nords into simple barbarians.
>>750585487Lol. Morrowind had naked Nord men as a meme and Bloodmoon showed that they basically didn't have much going on up there. Also the lowest int stat btw.
>>750543283i haven't played or seen much about enshrouded, it looks similar to valheim to me. no way that can be better than skyrim
>>750578751It's comfy
The funniest fuckup in this game is if you do the dark brotherhood questline after the civil war questline on the side of the stormcloaks. The reason for imperial presence & the emperor being in solitude makes zero sense.
>>750587567The emperor being in Skyrim at all makes zero sense in the questline alone.>Relative gets murdered at her own wedding>Your body double gets poisoned>Still stick around Skyrim
>>750588378There's a weird fatalism to how the emperor is depicted in the last conversation.
>>750541429He didn't do shit the game is just super modalble other wise no one would remember it. The base game is dog shit in almost every regard story is bad followers are at best ok gameplay is out and out cancer. But you can mod it into a great experience and that is why skyrim is still around.
Even with thousands of mods the jank keeps spilling out. Of all the fucking games that get decompiled I hope Skyrim is next so the janky ass engine can actually get patched.
The dunmer & the dwemer are the only interest part of the elder scrolls. The rest of it fall into the traps of fantasy writing from the 70's up until modern day.
Lads, just started a minimally modded playthrough with ordinator perk mod and the apocalypse spell pack. What build should I go? I randomed into starting as a foresworn nigger in the Reach, but I've paused on my adventures in Markarth until I can get full fus ro dah because it's too hilarious not to have at all times. I'm thinking full speech so I can jam out and kill everything with drums and buffed followers. For automatons I'll go lock picking. Then for dragons I'll just hope for the best.
>>750578751endless mods
>>750590948Based GTS enjoyer.
test
>>750589303Dunmer and dwemer are interesting because they were written in a seriously - professional approach where the setting has internal consistency and takes itself seriously, as if it was genuinely real. Genuine being the operating word. That is something that Oblivion did not bother much with, and Skyrim... took a very shallow approach.
>>750578751Walking around.
>>750541429>has bugs old enough to be castrated in California
>>750592597>internal consistency>All Dwemer got deleted but their ruins still have ghosts in them
>>750592948but would the ghosts of Dwemer that died before being spirited away be taken as well?
I recognize KCD as the only game that successfully replicated the TES formula.Too bad about about the gay nigger shit in KCD2, I will never know whether it's really such a downgrade compared to the first, or it's just chuds like me bringing it down out of spite.
>>750593171Good point but I'd still say those previously dead Dwemer's souls should've been deleted as well. Yagrum at least had an excuse. I don't think death should sever your affiliations with your race.
>>750593415What if those are ghosts of dwemer who came back to Nirn from Outer Plains AFTER Kagrenac fucked-up? And there is also a possibility that they did not just *poof* - most might've, some did not and just died. When you go to Mournhold, you discover ashes right where guards have stood (in that dwemer ruin underneath the city). Not to mention that guy you get pyroil tar for to remake Trueflame.In any case, yeah, setting/game takes itself seriously, unlike Oblivion and Skyrim.
>>750592816>flying t-rexLOL.
>>750592948>>750593415>choosing to bitch about a thing that has been deliberately left as a mystery in the gameYeah man, go bitch about sting theory and quantum gravity while at it.
>>750593357Its chuds like you who try to bring it down out of retardation and spite.
>>750580850it really is amazing how delusional contrarians can be
>>750551083soule less
>>750565893>If you like tranny games you're a trannyyes
>>750551083can't they just forget about metoo shit now?
>>750543283Tainted Grail... is not something I would even compare to TES. Its gameplay doesnt feel right or close to Skyrim. Sure, it has a better story and quests, but its combat is a souls jank in first person, and the way you interact with the world and objects leaves much more to be desired. Elden Ring is trash - thats my personal evaluation (i hate DS3 too).What of Enshrouded? Is it just Conan Exiles without anything Conan in it?
>>750541429Part of the reason I like the elder scrolls games is the option to ignore the main quest
>>750600560True. And you can just quit questing, build your own house, and live there with wife and adopted kids, while growing veggies and ingredients. Or wander around and camp wherever. Very very few games allow that.
>>750541429Garbage series only carried by it's lore and settings. >>750543237...and the beautiful soundtrack.>>750578751This.
>>750543283Enshrouded is so kino actually it's unreal.It's like valheim but the devs are competent and the game have structure and purpose.
>>750543283>>750603227stopped my GTS playthrough for enshrouded launch, played maybe 4 hours before i was over it. enshrouded is too cartoony , gameplay is so restrictive and gimmicky with hooks and gliders, you cant just pick a point and go . i did the one tower and it was D tier content with F tier "puzzles" shit youd see in a mobile game ad that wasnt real because real mobile games have better content than that
>x feature in skyrim is bad!ok, so name a first person rpg sandbox that does everything skyriom does better
>>750604904NTA.There simply is none. None whatsoever, and no competition.
>>750603416Bodied that freak
>>750543320kys fag
>>750603416>you cant just pick a point and go .With glider updraft you absolutely can, shitter.
>>750603227Its nice to see the gap in player count between Enshrouded and Valheim close more and more.
